Revenge (2017) KILL COUNT

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  • @kinjapleb4228
    @kinjapleb4228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4817

    I love how we actually see a progression in the protagonists skills, her getting knocked down by recoil when firing for the first time makes it feel super real.

    • @cerebrxll6064
      @cerebrxll6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      going from getting knocked down by recoil to having near deadeye in a matter of hours? not that realistic

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      @@cerebrxll6064 he did say progression sir so....

    • @asdasdqwet9893
      @asdasdqwet9893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@okita_souji_alter progression in a day? Yeah bo

    • @okita_souji_alter
      @okita_souji_alter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@asdasdqwet9893 didnt the whole conflict technically last 2 days?

    • @TheMento98
      @TheMento98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

      @@cerebrxll6064 Are you kidding? In the movie where a girl survives plummeting off a cliff just to get impaled by a tree, to the fact that every character in this film has enough blood in them to supply the Red Cross with enough blood to last a good decade, I think the ability to handle a firearm better over a few hours is the least of our realism problems.

  • @bloodybee3553
    @bloodybee3553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1276

    I think her "death" in the movie, and the following phoenix symbolism, is is supposed to represent how rape (or sexual abuse in general) can effectively kill a person's entire character as they are, and force them to become someone else in order to overcome their trauma and move foward

    • @XombieRawr
      @XombieRawr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      That's a really good take! I also saw it as how experiences forces people to relive the trauma or "nightmare" repeatedly, effectively killing them over and over

    • @joelc9439
      @joelc9439 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Definitely, rape and attempted murder will have serious impact on their life..

    • @expresslysoy8573
      @expresslysoy8573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      that's a really great observation

  • @frisky_dart7273
    @frisky_dart7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7489

    What’s crazy to realize, is that 2 of the 3 villains, including the main antagonist, aren’t even rapists in this “Rape Revenge” flick. The message is that bystanders who see something, but do nothing… or those who find out about something only to cover it up to avoid drama, are just as evil as the perpetrators.

    • @cyber2cyke
      @cyber2cyke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      She's also evil by knowingly having an affair with a married man. All 4 are pieces of crap.

    • @cyber2cyke
      @cyber2cyke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @dragoncup It is just as evil, specially in married couples. It destroys the lives of the one who got cheated on and most importantly the children. Evil is evil.

    • @cyber2cyke
      @cyber2cyke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @dragoncup There is no such thing as lesser or greater evil. Evil is evil. I know someone whose husband ran away with another woman. She became alcoholic then murdered all their kids and committed suicide. Tell the kids that.

    • @cyber2cyke
      @cyber2cyke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @dragoncup Had the husband not cheated the family would not have ended that way. Getting raped and adultery are both evil. No lesser evil between the two.

    • @nicholasoneal1521
      @nicholasoneal1521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +266

      @@cyber2cyke There's no such thing as lesser and greater evil? Really? So a guy that litters is just as evil as Josef Mengele?

  • @jocelynlewis4195
    @jocelynlewis4195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1708

    James going on a rant about the stereotypical "perfect victim" is just the best part of this video. I've been learning about the term recently, and yeah it is extremely infuriating as a woman to know I don't fit that category making it less likely for me to be believed or taken seriously.

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well look in the bright side at least you aren't a male victim

    • @mikec5400
      @mikec5400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      all this clown does is goes on rants about his ideology and what he thinks is right but if you disagree you are a bad person. His words not mine

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikec5400 does the c stand for cunt?

    • @fandomcringebucket
      @fandomcringebucket ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @@mikec5400Mmmmmmmmm I think that's what _you_ took away from James' (rightfully pissed-off) rant, sweetheart

    • @aestheticeditz2885
      @aestheticeditz2885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikec5400 why you so mad lmao? Hit dog holler

  • @h.haydon8044
    @h.haydon8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9166

    Let's all appreciate James' analysis/ monologue about how it doesn't matter if the person (doesn't matter about their gender) is promiscuous, innocent, or anything else. Rape is one of the worse things you can ever do to someone

    • @JoshSmith-fv1tx
      @JoshSmith-fv1tx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +314

      It's so important, one of the reasons I love this channel

    • @firetarrasque4667
      @firetarrasque4667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +484

      James doesn't fuck around, and he doesn't mince words. He isn't explicitly political much, but he's clearly got background knowledge that isn't coming to the forefront in these counts, and his moral compass is facing the right damn way.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Also a surprisingly easy crime to get away with in the UK, where police and justice system are firmly behind the rapist, and quite often have him on the payroll.

    • @ishathompson8439
      @ishathompson8439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      💯

    • @cerebrxll6064
      @cerebrxll6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      wdym doesn't matter about their gender. He undermined male r victims the whole episode. Made it seem like only men can be r*pist, when statistically in the U.S men are the victims of this crime more than women. But this is a French film.

  • @ariellakahan-harth8831
    @ariellakahan-harth8831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2335

    I love the mini-mirror narrative with Richard and Jen in the end; everything sort of turns around to quasi-replicate his experience onto her. He's in a place where he thinks he's safe (his home), and then she shows up to upset that safety in a moment where he's quite vulnerable (i.e., naked). She chases after him as he did her earlier in the film, gives him a wound that sort of mimics hers (in the torso area), and succeeds where he didn't in killing him with a long, pointed object (the tree and the gun, which, it feels appropriate to note here, is a rather phallic weapon). It's really quite cathartic.

    • @jennifersoules3876
      @jennifersoules3876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      There's also the concept of penetration. She penetrates his body with her hand, much like a rapist does with his genitals.

    • @only4strings331
      @only4strings331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@jennifersoules3876 Please remember that not only men are rapists. While they definitely make up a large majority, you can not dismiss all the men and women who have been raped by a female by saying "like a rapist does with *HIS* genitals"

    • @Holocoasterr
      @Holocoasterr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@only4strings331 but this particular rapist that they're reffering to is a guy so..

    • @HorrorFanaticBronX
      @HorrorFanaticBronX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      anyone know where to find the forever purge movie ima see that one

    • @HorrorFanaticBronX
      @HorrorFanaticBronX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is it available yet?

  • @nicholaslindsey7087
    @nicholaslindsey7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6166

    Even though her surviving that fall is kinda implausible, this is probably my favorite revenge film. The story and cinematography are magnificent

    • @filmfangirls9163
      @filmfangirls9163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Same! This and the remake of Last House on the Left.

    • @justanothersadkid9434
      @justanothersadkid9434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I spit on your grave is cool too. Some have cool kills too.

    • @filmfangirls9163
      @filmfangirls9163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hitcherhikerman my 2nd fave horror movie is the Remake of Last House and I also enjoyed Straw Dogs! Not sure if that one counts? But I found it in that category. I also watched that film Virgin Springs.

    • @DemBigOlEyes
      @DemBigOlEyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Agreed. I loved the movie, but I always found the idea of her running around a stick impaled through her for hours on end to be, a bit immersion-breaking. Survivng the initial fall is one thing, but living for so long afterwards without addressing the wound is a little much.

    • @blackstarlord1379
      @blackstarlord1379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could say that again

  • @yanasto
    @yanasto ปีที่แล้ว +259

    I know you say it isn't realistic that Jen survives the fall, but don't forget about Mary Vincent. She was only 14 when she was picked up by a monster while hitchhiking. He violently raped her for an entire night, then the next morning he chopped off both of her arms with a hatchet and threw her off a cliff. She survived by shoving what remained of her arms into the dirt and mud to stop the bleeding, and then walked totally naked down a deserted California highway where she met one car with two young men in it who drove off without stopping for her, and she almost lost all hope when a honeymoon couple driving a truck who were lost on their trip stopped for her and took her to the hospital.
    She survived and is a victims' rights advocate and artist.
    Her attempted murderer, Lawrence Singleton, was only sentenced to 14 years in prison and got out after 8 years due to good behavior. despite having previous offenses and possession of child pornography before his attempted murder of Mary Vincent. Upon his release, he immediately went and violently murdered a young mother of three in her home. However, since he committed that murder in Florida instead of California, he got the death penalty and died of cancer in prison.
    The worst monsters are real.

    • @doratheexplorerwillfindyou
      @doratheexplorerwillfindyou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I remember this! The monster only got out bc "working hard in prison removes a day from your sentence'' or some bullshit like that.

    • @Gibbypastrami
      @Gibbypastrami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      A story too often told
      The judges who let these men get out early should get the same sentence the men should’ve gotten
      Doesn’t make any sense legally but maybe an omniscient presence can make something like it happen in the next life
      Like, I don’t believe in the death penalty but I find it hard to believe you can rehabilitate someone who chops arms off living victims, he needed to be in prison for life the first time or sooner

    • @hopepapernacky
      @hopepapernacky 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I hate how the justice system always favors the villains. The world is a terrible place

  • @TheJJZeeman
    @TheJJZeeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4362

    Dude what a great point about the woman's own personality, sexuality, and past not mattering IN THE SLIGHTEST. "Her sexual choices should be in her control."
    Rape is always a crime, always a despicable act from the rapist. Kudos to the director for giving this example.

    • @Shinigami41395
      @Shinigami41395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      I think they went too far by having her knowingly sleep with a married man, though. The whole "her sexual choices should be in her control" thing doesn't really work when her sexual choices are hurting an innocent victim. She still doesn't deserve to be raped, obviously, but I prefer to actually like the protaganist of a story. I can't really like someone that selfish and shallow.

    • @someone0
      @someone0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Shinigami41395 what you just said is exactly why I frickin hate this movie

    • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
      @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@Shinigami41395 congratulations, that's the point of the movie, even if you do bad things and isn't perfect you don't deserve to be raped
      Because this kind of bullshit argument still present specially when the police kills an innocent

    • @Shinigami41395
      @Shinigami41395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Like I said, I don't believe that she deserved to be raped, but in a revenge story like this, being able to fully sympathize with the protagonist is very important for the story to work. I just can't bring myself to be emotionally invested in a character like her.
      I know some people don't have a problem with unlikeable protagonists. This is all just my opinion. I'm not a fan of rape revenge movies, so this movie was never going to be my cup of tea anyway.

    • @TheJJZeeman
      @TheJJZeeman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +296

      @@Shinigami41395 We tend to justify bad things happening to people who aren't conventionally "likeable." I think that's the point of the movie. A lot of rape victims who party get part of the blame. A lot of hood teenagers who get shot by cops are thought to "have it coming."
      I just think the director made a bold choice in the storytelling and I hope it opens some eyes. "Not likeable" doesn't mean they should get part of the blame for a horrible thing that happens to them!

  • @tacoclaus8168
    @tacoclaus8168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2673

    I loved richard’s death message, “shot through the heart and he’s to blame”, great stuff

    • @jctiwc0237
      @jctiwc0237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      He gives love a bad name.

    • @drowsyisup
      @drowsyisup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Promised her heaven and put her through hell

    • @thevincentbailey
      @thevincentbailey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Because when passion is a prison you can’t break free

    • @poison_raine5219
      @poison_raine5219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He's a loaded gun

    • @soulessslime433
      @soulessslime433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There's nowhere to run

  • @clairepettie
    @clairepettie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4315

    Not sure if you can watch the Kill Count version of the rape scene, but still want to watch the Kill Count? That's okay. It starts at 7:07, it's mostly off-screen in the clips they use, with no visible penetration, and predominantly from the waist up. It stops at 7:30, when James pauses to talk about the portrayal of women in the Rape-Revenge genre.

    • @Ami-ut2us
      @Ami-ut2us 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      Commenting to get this boosted

    • @ReiAnikaAyanami
      @ReiAnikaAyanami 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      thank you.

    • @jackiep594
      @jackiep594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Thank you

    • @katiesevin8346
      @katiesevin8346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      boosting! thank you for this

    • @madisonpetty9321
      @madisonpetty9321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Thank you for the time-stamps! This is so helpful

  • @OneMinutePastFour
    @OneMinutePastFour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +932

    The inclusion of the giant ants is pretty interesting imo as there's a real life story of a woman surviving a skydiving accident where her parachute didn't open, but survived by landing on a fire ants nest of which the bites kept her heart going and she ended up surviving it. Can't say for certain that it's a direct reference, but I think that's pretty damn cool.

    • @konstance13
      @konstance13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I just want to thank you for mentioning this, because I had never heard of the case and I love crazy survival stories. Very interesting read.

    • @attoboi9763
      @attoboi9763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@konstance13 Yeah Im glad someone mentioned it before me, I just added it as well, she fell 15,000 feet, or 4400 meters, the ants kept her heart beating and her nervous system functioning, basically preserving her body as she was in a coma. This 20 or so foot fall would be easily survivable, as far as the infection from a piece of wood through you, idk

    • @lolllama1504
      @lolllama1504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do ants keep your heart beating?

    • @jumjummy4614
      @jumjummy4614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Look up the Jennifer Schuett case, similar thing happened but in this case she was 8 years old, had just been raped and had her throat slashed but woke up due to fire ants biting her. eventually she was found and 20 years later finally got justice for what happened

    • @rebekahwolkiewicz449
      @rebekahwolkiewicz449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@jumjummy4614 Oh, dude, don’t even. I heard about that in my crime class. It’s terrible that someone could just randomly pick a child to do that to at night. A group of kids found her the next morning on the fire ant hill and thought she was dead when they ran to get help.

  • @jobxus15
    @jobxus15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2051

    Deadmeat team, it's your attention to the details, the extra care, and kind words you add that make you and whole team so great. Even when a subject is sensitive, you take some time to just pause, address it, and then back to business. It's little touches like that in my opinion show how much you love your work and care about your audience. You're the bees knees!

    • @DrWatson4
      @DrWatson4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Couldn’t have put it better myself 👍👍

    • @sjahbw
      @sjahbw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oaoalalal

    • @dakotaredd1742
      @dakotaredd1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Handling sensitive topics well is part of why I keep coming back

    • @diminishedd
      @diminishedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it’s only James but the way he takes topics like räpe so carefully shows how much he cares about his community also why he gets so much attention that he deserved

    • @maddy8328
      @maddy8328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly!! That's what I love about dead meat. They address sensitive topics and address them for what they are. In this case, James addressed what I wish many men would, that women do not deserve sexual assault for what she was wearing or doing. If she was wearing a bra and underwear in public, that is NOT a excuse to sexually hurt her. Men as well, say if a dude was wearing a Speedo, that is NOT a excuse to sexually hurt him, or a woman.

  • @wellstiscool
    @wellstiscool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4254

    I haven't seen the film, but from what is shown in this video (especially the phoenix symbolism), it seems like Jen surviving that impossible fall is supposed to be metaphorical or almost supernatural. The movie presents a "what if" scenario, showing a situation where in real life the woman would end up dead (and the perpetrators would have gotten away with it) and asking "...but what if the universe said not today, today she gets back up?"

    • @niepowaznyczlowiek
      @niepowaznyczlowiek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      I like this explanation

    • @uncaged1180
      @uncaged1180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Great take! I love how you interpreted how it was supernatural almost

    • @JulianHernandez-tn5gu
      @JulianHernandez-tn5gu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Here late but amazing theory. Also the beer cans logo looks like phoenix to maybe show how it helps bring her back to life
      Edit: Oops he pointed it out 20 seconds later.

    • @bobbyhextall9334
      @bobbyhextall9334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      liked

    • @kareningram6093
      @kareningram6093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      It kind of reminds me of The Crow, but instead of a supernatural entity giving her a second chance, she gives it to herself through sheer force of will.

  • @echolocationn
    @echolocationn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2790

    "If you can handle the premise, I really recommend revenge." - James A. Janisse 2021

    • @unofficial_gamer6813
      @unofficial_gamer6813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      It kinda sound like "You survive. If you want you can take revenge."

    • @erainmartinez8175
      @erainmartinez8175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm Taller 6:42

    • @AriesZero
      @AriesZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@erainmartinez8175 who asked???

    • @michaelperez5822
      @michaelperez5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@erainmartinez8175 how tall are u

    • @michaelperez5822
      @michaelperez5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erainmartinez8175 I'm 5'8 I'm average for an American🇺🇸 in Canada I would be considered really Tall because in Canada the Average height is 5'4 and other places it's shorter and some are taller with height

  • @Jennymayg13
    @Jennymayg13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1209

    I haven’t watched this film, I’ve only ever seen clips and then this kill count. As a rape victim, I actually love how Jen (fun coincidence my name is Jenny) is portrayed in this. She is a strong badass who in an idealistic and stylistic world got the kind of revenge I dreamed of but never got. I love that she isn’t portrayed as this innocent girl, people who have sex and flirt a lot can be raped too. I actually really appreciated the background interviews from this kill count. Seems like a good film.

    • @thomasvangompel7211
      @thomasvangompel7211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I’m sorry you had gone through this. Rape is awful

    • @sallywhite2009
      @sallywhite2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      No, love, we're not victims, we're survivors. We survived the shit we went through and came out on top. You're so strong. ❤

    • @EnvyVGrimm
      @EnvyVGrimm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sallywhite2009 can you please explain the difference? I have heard that expression before but no ever explained it, and I really want to know.

    • @goawayleavemealone2880
      @goawayleavemealone2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's a $hit person, she didn't deserve to get raped but she's also not particularly likeable and so it's hard to care about her revenge.

    • @tommytaylor2335
      @tommytaylor2335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're strong, god bless you ❤.

  • @poteetang
    @poteetang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1703

    "He said he just a friend". With all his funny material doing kill count, James could make a "Scary Movie" reboot that could be just as good as the original one.

    • @darkmelody4725
      @darkmelody4725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So not very?

    • @nocopytenda
      @nocopytenda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Huh?

    • @D0CT0RS133P
      @D0CT0RS133P 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So you mean he could make an absolute trash movie that makes offensive jokes that aren’t even funny?

    • @johnfran3218
      @johnfran3218 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When things were at their very worst:
      2 Suns, Cross in the sky, 2 comets will collide = don`t be afraid - repent, accept Lord`s Hand of Mercy.
      Scientists will say it was a global illusion.
      Beware - Jesus will never walk in flesh again.
      After WW3 - rise of the “ man of peace“ from the East = Antichrist - the most powerful, popular, charismatic and influential leader of all time. Many miracles will be attributed to him. He will imitate Jesus in every conceivable way.
      Don`t trust „pope“ Francis = the False Prophet
      - will seem to rise from the dead
      - will unite all Christian Churches and all Religions as one.
      One World Religion = the seat of the Antichrist.
      Benedict XVI is the last true pope - will be accused of a crime of which he is totally innocent.
      "Arab uprising will spark global unrest - Italy will trigger fall out"
      "Many events, including ecological upheavals, wars, the schism in My Church on Earth, the dictatorships in each of your nations - bound as one, at its very core - will all take place at the same time."
      The Book of Truth.

    • @poteetang
      @poteetang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@darkmelody4725 the movie isn't for you to watch. It's for me so you don't have to put your mind through the torture.

  • @EverTheFractal
    @EverTheFractal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    The acting in this movie is phenomenal. They all melt into the roles and manage to sell distress and pain perfectly. I was actually holding my breath during that foot scene.

    • @nerdgasam6838
      @nerdgasam6838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That was naaaaaaasty!

  • @HelloGoodbye2085
    @HelloGoodbye2085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +923

    I would really like to thank James and Chelsea for making dead meat such a safe space for female fans of the genre. As a lady horror fan I really appreciate the way you have handled this film and others with a sensible and compassionate attitude whilst still maintaining the fun of the channel and the film analysis chunks ❤️❤️💖💖

    • @mikec5400
      @mikec5400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why do you need a safe space exactly? Who is trying to harm you?

    • @HelloGoodbye2085
      @HelloGoodbye2085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@mikec5400 women who, like myself have experienced sexual assault can find the horror genre to be triggering for ptsd, and can cause flashbacks, disassociation and depressive episodes. By treating the matter with care and sensitivity (which many male horror fans I have met have not) they allow space for the discussion and enjoyment of the film without potential damage to women for whom this matter is deeply distressing. I hope this explanation helps ❤️

    • @Sevyn-x9m
      @Sevyn-x9m ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@mikec5400 I wanna add to what Caseratti said by mentioning that people don't always need a safe space because someone is actively trying to harm them. For example a woman may not be actively getting harmed by a dangerous man, but she might seek out spaces without dangerous men in them so she doesn't get hurt in the future. Does that make sense? people flock to spaces where they don't feel invalidated and belittled because at the end of the day no one wants to feel either of those things. When it comes to topics like sexual assault it can be really hard for women to just exist in spaces where there's dialogue because of the amount of victim blaming they experience regularly and systematically. Men and non binary folks too (it's not isolated to gender)

    • @icycandiee6343
      @icycandiee6343 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Salute to them.

  • @melissajackson79
    @melissajackson79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    This is such a difficult topic to preset and you did so in a respectful and sensitive way without losing the quality and comedy of your other work. I am impressed and humbled. Thank you.

    • @DeadMeat
      @DeadMeat  2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      Thank you so much, that's incredibly kind of you to say and it means a lot.

    • @melissajackson79
      @melissajackson79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@DeadMeat credit where credit is due, i have watched other channels do something like what you do and in my opinion you ARE the best by far. I think your other fans would agree.

    • @Quesoquantum
      @Quesoquantum ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Dead Meat I also really, really am grateful for this take as well. Sexual Assault is one of my biggest fears as a woman, and I really respect your statement about the nature of the crime: unexcusable, reprehensible and saddeningly common. I hope one day we don't have to have an outright statement like this made because some don't see it as the truth. I hope you see the growth you deserve for this and your other feats.

    • @joelc9439
      @joelc9439 ปีที่แล้ว

      Melissa, you should watch That Chapter.

    • @Broderick-yd5jv
      @Broderick-yd5jv ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DeadMeat I love your Kill Count videos

  • @k.o3064
    @k.o3064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2217

    My take on Jen’s fall:
    After she’s impaled, she died, but by the power of… some powerful entity, she came back for (title card) REVENGE

    • @quickman2663
      @quickman2663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      Yes, powerful entities. ANTS OF GOD!

    • @AriesZero
      @AriesZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      @@quickman2663 "I was bitten by a radioactive ant"

    • @das-apfel
      @das-apfel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds like the plot of „savaged“

    • @darrenbrown731
      @darrenbrown731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I stand by my theory that it's an unofficial sequel to The Crow

    • @alliekingsley7919
      @alliekingsley7919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      The plot of the Halle Berry Catwoman movie, but... not badly written.

  • @DesecratedTTV
    @DesecratedTTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    11:53 - "The man who turned a blind eye to her crime has now got a knife stickin out of that blind eye."
    You know, between situations like this where the summarization of the kills calls back to things like thematic presence (the whole him turning a blind eye then literally being blinded), and the obvious enthusiasm for the PROCESS of filmmaking - it is pretty obvious what sets Dead Meat apart from any other channel that does a similar thing.
    In the words of James A. Janisse himself... "That's nice."

    • @davidblaze1460
      @davidblaze1460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love English, I’m taking an advanced English course… but as smart as I am, I have no idea what you just said

    • @DesecratedTTV
      @DesecratedTTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@davidblaze1460 Oh sorry if I was unclear. I was just praising those behind the channel for their dedication to the material they cover, which is evident not only in the passion of their presentation, but in the fact that they take an extra step to explain imagery and thematic resonance (such as discussing the conversation surrounding gender norms, how the film explores these topics through things like the framing of the colored windows).
      I just find that to be neat. Most people watch a film and go "haha, it's fun because violent" which is all well and good, but when a film is clearly trying to tell a story it's refreshing to see someone engage with it in such an interesting way and call attention to details which is more than one would expect when first viewing a channel dedicated to counting kills.
      Hope this helped clear things up!

    • @ashleypisarts
      @ashleypisarts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DesecratedTTV
      Yeah! Those are really good points! That’s why I love this channels kill counts; they get into the depth of the movie and the purpose behind it while also counting kills and fangirling about the gore lol

  • @Don-iw1tq
    @Don-iw1tq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    You know he's a villain if he wears shoes on the bed. Now that's one for the ages.

  • @babystone42
    @babystone42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1904

    as a woman who has been assaulted and is confident in her sexuality, this film felt very liberating in a way. I would never actually harm them if given the chance because I've already dealt with it, but in Jen's mindset where she's just been assaulted and she has the ability and in court she can defend herself because dude literally pushed her off a cliff and the others actively tried to kill her. to see a woman taking vengeance on her rapists is awesome to see in this case. sorry if this is blunt or harsh, but I deeply enjoyed watching those assholes die 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @ashleypisarts
      @ashleypisarts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      I’m so sorry that happened to you. That’s absolutely horrible. I’m glad that you’re confident in your sexuality and yourself now. 💕
      I really enjoyed watching these assholes die too, you’re not alone. I wouldn’t ever wish death upon someone no matter what horrible thing they did, but.. it’s a movie lol

    • @Sekkv
      @Sekkv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@notrichrd4412 I care

    • @ryuuuhn2500
      @ryuuuhn2500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@notrichrd4412 bro what

    • @babystone42
      @babystone42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@ashleypisarts thank you so much ❤️❤️ I always say that I'm glad it happened to me and not to someone else. not to mention that I've dealt with it all in a (mostly) healthy way, so they don't have a hold on me 😊

    • @babystone42
      @babystone42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Sekkv you're awesome 💘 it's easy to ignore hate comments with a good community like this one ☺️

  • @notelingwright4084
    @notelingwright4084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    This is basically just teaching me horror movies i never knew existed

    • @sjahbw
      @sjahbw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lalalala

    • @kalecardenas9645
      @kalecardenas9645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @lordpicklenips3407
      @lordpicklenips3407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I spit on your grave and last house on the left are probably the most notorious/well known revenge films (at least in the US)

    • @libertyprime619
      @libertyprime619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordpicklenips3407 I love I spit on your grave, it has so many hidden themes it's not even funny.

    • @jamelhaynes549
      @jamelhaynes549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same my concern is why does this genre exist in movies knowing this real serious problem

  • @daffyphack
    @daffyphack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +600

    I listen to a lot of true crime podcasts, and one of the things that always frustrates me is how often its said of the victim "They were always smiling", "they never had a bad word to say about anybody"....it makes me wonder how often crimes against people who aren't seemingly perfect get followed up on. I suffer from depression, and I can be moody and have a bad attitude, but if I get murdered tomorrow, I hope that people are still willing to seek justice for me even if I'm not the greatest person on paper.

    • @AriesZero
      @AriesZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I feel that

    • @allthebanter9316
      @allthebanter9316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      It’s more a “don’t speak Ill of the dead” thing, if you were murdered you’d be recounted in the same way

    • @Rogue_Nine416
      @Rogue_Nine416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      look at it like this - a lot of those people are related to the victim and for them, it might be difficult to go and think back to their loved ones' lives so they focus on the positives and maybe ONLY the positives

    • @redgreen2453
      @redgreen2453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You might like that show Search Party, it’s all about that

    • @hannahaugustyniak11
      @hannahaugustyniak11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It’s definitely a “speak ill of the dead” thing. If any true crime podcast said “the victim was a real bitch” or anything negative about the victim they’d be burned at the stake.

  • @bowl-of-chicken-soup7107
    @bowl-of-chicken-soup7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    I love how this movie brings to light that you didn’t need to be a saint for This to happen. Sure, Jen is clearly a shitty person, but that doesn’t excuse what happened to her.

    • @adwans1491
      @adwans1491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it excuses killing people?

    • @kippsryan1
      @kippsryan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      @@adwans1491 She's killing people that are actively trying to kill her. So it is definitely excused.

    • @ftlmead2584
      @ftlmead2584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@adwans1491 "bUt iT ExCuSeS kilLNg PeOpLe??? 😭😭😭"

    • @fandomcringebucket
      @fandomcringebucket ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@adwans1491 Yes.

    • @ladycobrana852
      @ladycobrana852 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@adwans1491 Haven’t heard of self defense, I presume.

  • @tylerwade3682
    @tylerwade3682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1017

    I appreciate the amount of effort they put into this movie. Something that the 2019 Black Christmas failed miserably. Definitely helped that more time was put into this.

    • @A-Problem-Child
      @A-Problem-Child 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I fell asleep watching 2019 Black Christmas that’s how different and bad it was compared to the OG 😭

    • @tylerwade3682
      @tylerwade3682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@A-Problem-Child the two don't compare. What Sophia Takal did was a heartless cashgrab that pushed a message rather than make a good story around it

    • @maniaxlives1126
      @maniaxlives1126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Meaning in movies can easily done and brought to the viewers but when it is forced onto the viewer? It becomes lost to the viewer as being just preachy a bit, sort of demeaning the issue it sought to represent

    • @roguexxrenegade
      @roguexxrenegade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The 2019 Black Christmas reboot was straight up sexist garbage.

    • @Orlando-go1tb
      @Orlando-go1tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nice pfp👀

  • @GremlinAbsolute
    @GremlinAbsolute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    I'm absolutely happy to be mentioned in the patron credits for this movie. Means a lot as a survivor of CSA
    Edit: coming back to this after two years and seeing the remnants of some comments made me realize that abbreviating Sexual Assault Against a Minor as SAAM probably wasn't the best idea. I switched up the term so that it makes a bit more sense.
    Thanks to everyone for the kind words and empathy for my experience.

  • @Midnight-Starfish
    @Midnight-Starfish ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I just realized that the painting in the background at 18:53 makes it look like Jen's hand is up against the glass like she's pressed up against it, and that Stan is on the other side of her with a far bigger presence and with a gun emphasizing and foreshadowing his power over her in later events. Got to give props to the director and cinematographer. I love it when movies foreshadow visually like this.

    • @Quesoquantum
      @Quesoquantum ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! Good eye and amazing perspective :)

  • @starbird3939
    @starbird3939 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Fun fact: Blue and Pink were associated as Boy/Girl colors in morder. Times (i believe the 40’s).
    Originally the colors were blue for girl, pink for boy.
    So having her go from pink to blue could mean reclaiming the color.

  • @singactgiggle
    @singactgiggle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +503

    I’d just like to say how much I appreciate the Dead Meat team and James approaching this genre and film in the way they did. Discussing the genres history, it’s hits/misses, as well as discussing the themes and circumstances of the topic of rape/sexual assault in film and in real life.
    And as always, your comic relief was very much appreciated.
    Also, the “blind eye” comment: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Kspice9000
      @Kspice9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except it was poorly researched. Else he would realize this is ripoff of I Spit on Your Grave.

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Kspice9000 Not every rape-revenge film is a rip-off of ISOYG. This film’s biggest sin is not taking itself seriously enough, something ISOYG luckily did.

    • @robby7499
      @robby7499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the thought that counts.

    • @pusheenqueen519
      @pusheenqueen519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@Kspice9000 He literally referenced I Spit on Your Grave and how Revenge follows the same basic beats of most rape/revenge movies. It's a subgenre on it's own. The whole tone, style, setting, and plot of the movies are different. Even the actually shooting of the assault scenes are complete polar opposites. You probably haven't even seen either movies🙄

    • @leandroteixeira33
      @leandroteixeira33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Kspice9000
      This is not a ripoff. They are both rape revenge films and there is just so much variation you can have in a "women get raped; rapists get killed" story.
      I Spit on Your Grave on it's own can be considered a Last House on the Left ripoff (just compare the characters of Junior and Matthews).
      Revenge varies much more within the same plotline, from the previous relationships with the abusers to the morals of the film (it's arguable that Matthews is portrayed on an almost sympathetic way even though he is a rapist nonetheless. Here, Dimitri was killed as mercilessly as the others for turning a blind eye to the event).

  • @haileysalemi812
    @haileysalemi812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I love the use of the colored glass, and I feel like Dmitri standing behind the yellow panel represents his cowardice from stopping his friend. Great kill count James!

  • @somik-i3x
    @somik-i3x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I like when James goes a little more into film analysis. It's fun to understand how the movie shows his themes.

  • @kaliberkam0681
    @kaliberkam0681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    I like how theirs a quick shift in stans strength, he has the strength to assault a woman yet is too weak to want to face her again

    • @supremekingowl9350
      @supremekingowl9350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably felt remorse

    • @jayyy8740
      @jayyy8740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      it’s confusing too me cuz he starts as kinda a sad loser then turns into an abusive and violent person to rape her, then in the next scene he’s the first one to scold the main guy for pushing her off a cliff and the first one who suggests they show her mercy and bring her too the hospital. Then later he’s actively trying to kill her and trying to run her down with a truck like dam talk about mood swings.

    • @udittlamba
      @udittlamba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      reminds me of panela anderson narrating her sexual assault and saying how the perpetrator just cried and cried after raping her.

    • @IzzyAndAndy
      @IzzyAndAndy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@supremekingowl9350 they never feel remorse, it’s the fear of being confronted.

    • @IzzyAndAndy
      @IzzyAndAndy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@jayyy8740 it’s fairly accurate to real rapists. They’re pathetic losers who crave power.

  • @chaosstrolling1598
    @chaosstrolling1598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    Fuck YES!! I’m so glad you took a moment to point out that Jen’s promiscuity was absolutely intentional and important to show. That was one of the main reasons I loved this movie.

    • @aziraphaleangel
      @aziraphaleangel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Jax Teller The point seemed pretty clear to me.

    • @alissa6
      @alissa6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aziraphaleangel Jax is dumbfounded, and I agree.

    • @Maialeen
      @Maialeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@alissa6 I've seen a few of his posts in this comment section. He seems to just be dumb, without the founded.

  • @aideen6474
    @aideen6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Finally watched Train to Busan last night because I felt bad about just watching the Kill Count and not the movie, and OH MY GOD I cried three separate times even though I knew what was going to happen. One of the most beautiful and impactful movies I've ever seen. Anyway, definitely listen to James and watch both the movie and the kill count (preferably in that order) because they both provide different things and should be used in conjunction with one another.

    • @michaelperez5822
      @michaelperez5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah It's depressing I watched it awhile back. Basically everybody dies from these World War Z Zombies but chinese version and I think the dad and daughter live and they eventually get the fuck out of kongcong from the infected even the Military helps but even they turned

    • @michaelperez5822
      @michaelperez5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want Hatchet Victory Crowley killcount eventually

    • @brubaker4867
      @brubaker4867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@michaelperez5822 it’s Korean not Chinese

    • @darrenkernan3269
      @darrenkernan3269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's so good and we gotta appreciate how how James pushes that a kill count isn't a substitute for watching a film

    • @oliviaisnicole1835
      @oliviaisnicole1835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelperez5822 uh they were Korean … it’s a Korean movie 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @EggPalette
    @EggPalette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I love that this movie portrays the victim as someone who’s okay with her sexuality, in reality no victim is as innocent as the media or some men see them, but that doesn’t mean that people should assault them, no matter how “inviting” or how “pure” they might be

  • @CandyCain666
    @CandyCain666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    (Warning; sort of personal but this movie makes me feel validated so sh)
    This movie is personal to me, I am a man, but I have experienced that sort of pain. And it felt so satisfying to see those disgusting slimy bastards die. I wasn't validated nor given revenge or justice since the man that did it got away with it, this movie is a breath of fresh air even tho its a woman's story. She deserved that win no matter who she is.

    • @deni_luv
      @deni_luv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      So sorry for you man, youre doing great

    • @tazdivil6527
      @tazdivil6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno if I should ask this but how excatly have you felt that pain?

    • @CandyCain666
      @CandyCain666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@tazdivil6527 tw:
      This movie has a STRONG woman who had been subjected to s3xu4l assault/r4p3, as well as the one she wanted to lean on for this issue not validating her or even doing anything about it.
      I have went through that pain before, I never got 'Revenge' in any possible way, but her struggles in this movie is what I was trying to say I relate to, that pain is something I've went through, just like her.

    • @tazdivil6527
      @tazdivil6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CandyCain666 oh ok

    • @hopepapernacky
      @hopepapernacky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m sorry I don’t have anything meaningful to say, but your comment is really good and you’re awesome

  • @lovettuduebor1902
    @lovettuduebor1902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    Have they talked about this film on Chelsea’s Dead Meat Podcast yet? I would really love to hear her thoughts on this film.

    • @Userfuck3dy4m4mm4
      @Userfuck3dy4m4mm4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      no they haven’t yet, i’m assuming if they do it would be out this tuesday.? :)

    • @wesjall
      @wesjall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Userfuck3dy4m4mm4 this weeks episode is gonna be on White Noise, but i agree, id love to hear her thoughts, even if just in another "lighting round movie review" episode

    • @rhiley5097
      @rhiley5097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      they might do a rape revenge episode eventually

    • @aliencafe
      @aliencafe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rhiley5097 I was coming here to say how much I'd enjoy an episode on that, even if it was just flat out woman-led revenge movies if they decide talking about SA for that long would be too upsetting

    • @ronburgundy244
      @ronburgundy244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chelsea said she hasn't seen this movie yet on the Dead Meat subreddit.

  • @obientv4178
    @obientv4178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    One of the most painful kill counts I've ever seen. Topped only by Marv stepping on the nail in Home Alone.

  • @user-ko9bn3fw2e
    @user-ko9bn3fw2e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    There's a lot of metaphor going on in the broken glass trick on Stan; the glass non-consensually enters his foot and forms a vaginal looking wound which he then has to painfully penetrate to take the glass out. Jen basically forces him to treat his body the way he treated hers. Also if we view the car as a vaginal symbol, Jen attacks him after he takes his clothes off and uses a water bottle (phallic symbol) to fill the car with oil (like semen). She attacks him and he can no longer drive and be in control of the car. She then takes hold of the car, reclaiming vaginal sexual agency and destroying his phallic control of it.

    • @MandolinMagi
      @MandolinMagi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I think you're over-thinking things. Not everything is a metaphor

    • @cerebrxll6064
      @cerebrxll6064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      this may be a bit of a stretch not everything was a symbol

    • @ambertasniem7245
      @ambertasniem7245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      This is a really interesting analysis!

    • @user-ko9bn3fw2e
      @user-ko9bn3fw2e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ambertasniem7245 thanks:)

    • @schibleh531
      @schibleh531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I think you're reading too much into that. Like, the foot thing, sure. I don't think it's intentional but I get where you're going with it. But the car was a bit too far fetched.

  • @Mistress0fMonsters
    @Mistress0fMonsters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I usually have a tough time with any SA genres like this one but the way you covered it made it much easier to get through- props to the movie's team it seems really well done even if it's not my cup of tea and I'd never be comfortable watching it personally.

    • @lazarus1540
      @lazarus1540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed James treads the topics very carefully and I respect it, even if my skin would crawl and blood boil watching the movie.

  • @NitPickz
    @NitPickz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +655

    If ya'll like Rob, then I highly recommend listening to his score for the Maniac remake.
    It's beautiful and unnerving at the same time.
    Also, in terms of these rape revenge flicks, the only one I'd consider competent (aside from this) is the Last House on the Left remake from 2009. Namely because it takes itself seriously whereas the original is not a tonally consistent or even remotely competent film. I would also say that the parents (played by Tony Goldwyn and Monica Potter) are possibly the best I've seen in a horror movie. They don't outright jump into revenge and instead take more precaution with the situation. I can't explain much else here, so give it a watch if you want.

    • @annalucy89
      @annalucy89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I definitely agree. I actually re-watched that movie this year 'cause it had been years since I saw it and it still holds up. Very disturbing!

    • @SFNDMK
      @SFNDMK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely better than the remake. That theme in the end credits though>>>

    • @seanc41556
      @seanc41556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it's both great and horrible for obvious reasons... Aaron Paul is in it too for Breaking Bad fans

    • @daffyphack
      @daffyphack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't like rape revenge much myself, but Miss 45 is genuinely pretty compelling.

    • @befofary8716
      @befofary8716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For happy death day 2u is a good movie but I have neffex tou yeah also use the movie to watch it when I won't to watch it so I agree that

  • @lilyisacat29
    @lilyisacat29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    Thank you for your sensitivity and approach to the topic, James. You’re a really great person and your compassion is something I’ve always admired. Your introduction to the President’s Day Kill Count has always stuck with me - it wasn’t something you had to do, and most people probably wouldn’t have noted the connotations/impact at the time, but you did and went out of your way to make sure your viewers were warned.
    Thank you very much, James.

    • @your-username-here2308
      @your-username-here2308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "" to make sure your viewers were warned""
      Imagine you get hurt from a Video.

    • @noodlebakeellie8243
      @noodlebakeellie8243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@your-username-here2308 r@pe is a really big trigger for survivors, some triggers can send people into panic attacks and flashbacks

    • @kayvonnavi2294
      @kayvonnavi2294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@your-username-here2308 oh no how dare PTSD triggers exist! Lets just ignore neuroscience because Your-Username-here decided it doesnt exist

    • @mikec5400
      @mikec5400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kayvonnavi2294 ptsd exists in all sorts of packages. Lets remove all boats and water from videos because it triggers a small group of people. This is a YOU problem not an US problem.

    • @zaksharman
      @zaksharman ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mikec5400 Sounds like victim blaming to me

  • @madam-mint
    @madam-mint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    To everyone who’s been a victim of crimes like what Jen experienced, I am so sorry. Yeah I know, it’s not my fault, and I definitely don’t expect you to say “it’s okay” because it’s not. It’s not okay that this happened to you. And I genuinely hope that you’re able to find closure and healing.

    • @deni_luv
      @deni_luv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I havent been a victim but i just gotta say youre a damn good person

    • @sallywhite2009
      @sallywhite2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you, friend. ❤

    • @hopepapernacky
      @hopepapernacky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You. Are. Amazing.

    • @mikec5400
      @mikec5400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      get over yourself

    • @abby_0507
      @abby_0507 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Omg this made me tear up thank you so much

  • @MagmaMonika
    @MagmaMonika 3 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    I’m not really a fan of this sorta sub genre in horror movies, but as a survivor of SA this movie hit home in a good way as it was so fucking satisfying to see Jen get her, well revenge on her abusers.
    You probably won’t see it but if you do, thank you for covering this movie, James

    • @watermelgurlie10yearsago51
      @watermelgurlie10yearsago51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Chris-rg6nm why are you everywhere?

    • @poruporu4328
      @poruporu4328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@flashpointbatman1 Se***** Assault

    • @MagmaMonika
      @MagmaMonika 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chris-rg6nm read the plot synopsis n I’ll probably check it out, thanks for the rec !

    • @thedesensitizedsympathizer5307
      @thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish prostitutes were legal and that there was a magic pill that takes the hormones out of a man so they don't have to rape women.

    • @el5001
      @el5001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 hormones have nothing to do with rape. Otherwise every man would be raping anyone they see. Its about very sick people and a sick way of wanting power over others

  • @Scrofar
    @Scrofar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love that James can uphold the humorous yet informative nature of the show while still taking the subject very seriously, without once skipping a beat. That is mad respect.

  • @HipposAreDeadly
    @HipposAreDeadly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The fact that it’s the hunted becoming the hunter… to a group of hunters. Beautiful

    • @wisewolftony
      @wisewolftony 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar to I Saw the Devil. Although that isn't really about hunted becoming the hunter. And instead is more about becoming a monster in order to fight a monster. Although you could consider it also being about a hunter becoming the hunted. As the antagonist is a serial killer of women. And the protagonist then hunts him for the entire rest of the film.

  • @allimckoy6815
    @allimckoy6815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    As weird as it sounds, watching movies like this helped me cope and process SA trauma I went through and it made me feel less like a pathetic victim and more like I could if I could survive it I was more powerful than I realized.

  • @CakeoftheMews
    @CakeoftheMews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is the main reason why I love Kill Count and Dead Meat as a whole. Not only is it a bunch of jokes and counting kills, but a bit of film analysis, commentary, and fun facts about production.

  • @BigRabbitTooSmall
    @BigRabbitTooSmall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "When push comes to shove off a got damn cliff" might be my favorite line from this whole series

  • @alexmcfee7686
    @alexmcfee7686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The rape scene was incredibly difficult to watch but it made it so liberating to watch them all be murdered- and amazing commentary by James! Love the video

  • @De13373r
    @De13373r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    This was the first film of this genre I’ve ever seen that wasn’t absolutely disgusting.

    • @fireentertainment5
      @fireentertainment5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know

    • @britishempire5348
      @britishempire5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How was this 10 hours ago??

    • @georgebulmer5238
      @georgebulmer5238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@britishempire5348 video is probably unlisted for a bit before the vid is out and is accessible to patreon donators

    • @Indiana1337
      @Indiana1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@britishempire5348 People that pay money get video early.

    • @brunothealienfrommars3196
      @brunothealienfrommars3196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@britishempire5348 People who are Members of the channel or Patrons have early access on Dead Meat videos (I think, sorry if I gave the wrong info)

  • @luisgomez8635
    @luisgomez8635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Yo that close up of james' lips through the binoculars when we got to the numbers had me ROLLIN.🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @stewthemoo1842
    @stewthemoo1842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    20:40 “shot thru the heart and he’s to blame” James i love you

  • @avi8911
    @avi8911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Heya James, thanks for the warning about the rape revenge scenario of the film. I sometimes dream of my revenge, but films like this really help me keep those thoughts at bay, by seeing similiar ideas played out through film.
    Your commentary also helped me appreciate the film without being triggered.
    I’ve been a horror junkie for 30 years and even did work experience at the Coroners court at 15. That place is haunted!
    Anywhoo, thanks again for really bringing horror movies to life, through your research and experiences. From Victoria, Australia 💚💜💚

  • @theafrofluff
    @theafrofluff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The only movies I have seen in this type of genre was "I spit on your Grave" the OG, the remake and the sequel. Like...7 years ago? It's...like the kills are very well done, especially the remake, they are over the top but the rape in every movie is so uncomfortable. Every single one of them the rape is such a long procedure, you want it to be over quickly but it keeps going. I believe it was 30 minutes, from an 1 hour 50 minute movie in the remake. The sequel of the remake also adds kidnapping and multiple days of rape...I can fully relate when James says "Not the type of thing I normally want to watch" cause I pretty much stayed away from it after those movies.

    • @Schnipps
      @Schnipps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      God that movie made me sick, but I felt so satisfied watching her get the revenge in that movie, the remake I think it was.

    • @theafrofluff
      @theafrofluff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Schnipps Yeah, I agree but man it...it's just a lot right? I mean I can't be the only one who was like "please...stop, it's been 20 minutes"

    • @simplygarbage9951
      @simplygarbage9951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's definitely gratuitous in my opinion. I really liked the way that this film seems to have it mostly ofscreen and relatively short. Big props

    • @miu__m
      @miu__m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      there's a reason why rape revenge films also fall under the exploitation genre, not just for the brutal acts of violence that ensue but because of rape scenes itself, which some people (horrifyingly) want to see

    • @roseabee7503
      @roseabee7503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The thing is about the rape scenes is to put you in the victim's perspective. It's not suppose to be comfortable, it's not suppose to be quick. The rape itself can feel like it takes hours and gets diaorentating especially if you're passed out or knocked out. At that point you're questioning if it's been days or even longer. You can sympathise with a victim, but when the scene is drug out, really thrown into the depths of "how much longer is this going to go on", can one seriously emapthise with someone who has been in that situation.

  • @petermccaffrey5898
    @petermccaffrey5898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    In the scene where she sees the two guys in the window that’s pink could be a metaphor for looking at someone through rose colored glasses. I’m probably just reaching tho

    • @Yeovelyn
      @Yeovelyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be tho, cuz why else they put a pink glass

    • @roseabee7503
      @roseabee7503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Yeovelyn because the pink glass was suppose to represent her as the gender stereotype: femimine, ditzy, incapable, ETC, versus how the movie ended with her being framed with the blue glass. James literally mentions this metaphor.

  • @FaztyKaoz
    @FaztyKaoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The director did really an amazing job, like seriously she gives me extreme Tarantino vibes, with all the blood and strong female characters, love it.

  • @mysticfire5850
    @mysticfire5850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I respect that James is always willing to give movies a try even when he`s not a fan of that particular genre
    I also very deeply appreciate his approach and respectfulness with things other ppl may find upsetting

  • @HappyBirddi
    @HappyBirddi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    One of my favorite aspects is that the movie doesn't cover up Jen as the movie goes on and keeps showing her body as is like it's saying that, no matter what you've been through or the pain and trauma you've experienced, your body is still yours and no one can take that away from you or ever make you worthless. Also major props to James' in his analysis about how, no matter who the person is and how they choose to present their sexuality, that is their choice and no one has the right to take that away.
    I've always been super squeamish with exploitation films or films with heavy gore, but oh my god I love this movie so much. It's so refreshing to have this kind of subject covered by such a talented female director and I adore Jen as a protagonist becoming the hunter against all odds.

    • @ravensnest9486
      @ravensnest9486 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you like this movie but want a little less gore and a little more psychological point, I recommend promising young woman! It’s a super good movie about a girl who’s friend took her own life after she was assaulted at a party and never got justice and her friend goes around, not killing men, but just pretending she’s drunk the confronting them and making them face what they did when they try something. It’s suuuuper good and the actors are all amazing :)

  • @loki1456
    @loki1456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    James, thank you for your message about Jen not needing to be a perfect victim. You are amazing as always.

    • @Quesoquantum
      @Quesoquantum ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. She doesn't need to be cowering and covering herself in fear to avoid the possibility of another assault, but flaunts herself not only in bravery but in pride that she survived despite the odds and is going to deliver the justice she desires.

    • @KevinBonilla-lo8te
      @KevinBonilla-lo8te 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Quesoquantumsound like bs

  • @shanecook-laliberte8154
    @shanecook-laliberte8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I totally forgot there was a Sunday kill count today! What a beautiful surprise. Long live James A. Janisse!!

    • @klinksss
      @klinksss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In my case I just totally forgot it was Sunday 🥴🥴🥴

  • @pinche.f3rnando
    @pinche.f3rnando 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    dude than one thing you said "biz would be turning in his grave right now" hurt because i didn't even know he passed away may he rest in peace

  • @grantmoore8228
    @grantmoore8228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I love how the "On The Next Kill Count" segments have become just as fun and entertaining as the actual videos themselves 🤣

  • @AreUohKae
    @AreUohKae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I Spit on Your Grave is one of the best rape revenge movies i’ve ever seen. it’s gory, but to the point and the victim is the one actually getting her revenge on the men that attacked her

  • @kazz6884
    @kazz6884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    as a r4pe victim myself,I really want to thank James for giving content warnings for these kind of topics and how he knows that people never actually never ask for that sort of stuff to happen.god am I happy I found this channel

  • @ethanbuxman4316
    @ethanbuxman4316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    21:00 I blushed

  • @Iegitimate
    @Iegitimate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Very proud to see how far the kill counts and channel has come so far James!

  • @wadekemmsies7180
    @wadekemmsies7180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Props to the male actors for acting in such discomforting disgusting roles

    • @Zedd...
      @Zedd... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not very different from their true selves, as all men are.

    • @Quesoquantum
      @Quesoquantum ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They did a good job on this, as weird as that statement feels

    • @ayoutubeuser1160
      @ayoutubeuser1160 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zedd... so all men are rapists? Typical pathetic feminist who's parents don't love her

  • @PopStarLegend4365
    @PopStarLegend4365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    16:59 “Sounded like the ‘AAAHH!!! Real Monsters’ scream there.”
    Frick YES!! I love that show so much!

  • @jockeyfield1954
    @jockeyfield1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    *one of the characters is named dimitri*
    niko bellic: now this looks like a job to me!

  • @ThisIsEloy3
    @ThisIsEloy3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even though Jen isn’t a perfect person, it’s great that she doesn’t become a stagnant caricature that works to defend her lifestyle before she is assaulted. And the way that she uses her intelligence in order to completely morph into a whole new person is astounding and awesome.

  • @yungbisk6827
    @yungbisk6827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love when Dead Meat covers a new type of genre on the Kill Count, and I adore how much care James took with the topic and themes of this movie.

  • @razzyrazberries
    @razzyrazberries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It was a hard movie to watch based on the content, but it was well directed. It didn't feel like the movie was sensualizing what happened, or focusing on the act on screen. It was tastefully done off screen, and we weren't forced to see it play out in full. I think it was a really solid revenge movie. Thanks for covering it.

  • @DEDManGamingWins
    @DEDManGamingWins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Omg I died at the joke "it's like a tattoo, only crispier!"

  • @Cure_Hana
    @Cure_Hana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I think Jen did Richard’s wife a favor. Who knows what he probably would’ve done to her AND their baby if she ever found out about the affair and tried to leave. 😣

    • @SpoonyBard88
      @SpoonyBard88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Killing that kind of priveleged criminals is doing the entire world a favor.

    • @danialyousaf6456
      @danialyousaf6456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SpoonyBard88 wish it was legal to do something like that irl lol.
      I'm not saying every rich person, just the ones who think they're entitled to everything on this earth.

    • @atlas6538
      @atlas6538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@danialyousaf6456 so potentially everyone? Because rich and entitled is very subjective

    • @jaydeflayme2890
      @jaydeflayme2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Definitely, I don't doubt he'd kill her if he thought he could get away with it. Probably keep the baby and turn it into an absolute dumpster fire of a human being

    • @princeapoopoo5787
      @princeapoopoo5787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      honestly, as someone who is a bit tired of adultery plots in my stories, i thought this was a good use of that trope. wouldn't be surprised if richard was low-key abusing his own wife behind closed doors as it is, since he already clearly doesn't respect her.

  • @frogsarecool7069
    @frogsarecool7069 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I really like that all their deaths suit them and are symbolic as well as leading up to the kills. Dimitri gets stabbed in the eyes and drowns like how he turned a blind eye to her assualt and tried drowning it out. Stan steps on glass which slows him down enough for Jen to get preped and kill him like how he used the glass against her long enough for him to kill the person she used to be.
    And lastly Richard, who ignored what happened and blamed her for it, his death was saved for last cause ultimately its ppl like him who are the reason bad shit keeps happening; they ignore it, blame the victim, try and cover up the situation(like him with the plastic wrap), downplay what happened, ect. Its ppl like him in society who let this keep happening and instead of doing anything to fix it just shrug it off, change starts with awareness and thats exactly what ppl like Richard don't want cause they don't like it. Though like awareness the more aware and educated ppl are about sexual assault the more likely taking ppl like Richard down is(like one blow to finish him off) but that change and awareness doesn't come easy with multiple attempts needing to be done and with it taking a long time. Richard may not have been a rapist but he sums up why sexual assault and harassment are still an issue in the world cause ppl victim blame surviors and downplay the very real and traumatic experience of sexual assault simply because they just don't wanna deal with the problem.
    In order for change to happen we need to speak up weither you're a survivor or not. Awareness and education are key for change to happen so please be a part of the solution and not the problem. This is coming from a survivor :)

  • @softtonic1497
    @softtonic1497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "When push comes to shove off a god damn cliff, it takes some grade A killing to survive." - I cackled. Amazing writing lol

  • @prospect5589
    @prospect5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I say we make having shoes on the bed a war crime.

  • @yellowhouse4911
    @yellowhouse4911 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's.. scary that a statement like "rape is bad" seems to be so controversial in this comment section? Why does some of the comments spark over a 100 repplies? Why do some people feel less empathy towards a rape victim just because she was involved in an affair? Just shows that movies like this still need to be made

    • @tati7526
      @tati7526 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      facts, this is what i was thinking too. how can someone saying that rape is bad no matter what you look or act like? it’s really sad and breaks my heart that it sparks up such a big debate.

    • @tanglekelp1857
      @tanglekelp1857 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      because apparently saying that women have autonomy and that they don't deserve to be raped is a "liberal opinion"

  • @NICK33188
    @NICK33188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Definitely liked this film, violent, stylish and very well made. So glad that Dead Meat made a Kill Count video for this one finally and I was gonna request for it a while back

  • @thomasguerra4521
    @thomasguerra4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Omg....Thank you James I was having a pretty crappy weekend, but this extra kill count made my day!!!

    • @marlo9065
      @marlo9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hope you're having a better day, love you :)

    • @EnclosedPoolArea
      @EnclosedPoolArea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marlo9065 Gay

    • @marlo9065
      @marlo9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EnclosedPoolArea Thats me :D

  • @CractusJohn
    @CractusJohn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When a movie with a small kill count actually has a realistic kills per minute
    also damn guess it sucks to be me I wasn’t there for the live stream. crap

  • @hutaostan6581
    @hutaostan6581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I LOVE how shes not some "innocent virgin house wife" but instead a realistic young woman with some spice in her life!!

    • @exaggeratedswagger7485
      @exaggeratedswagger7485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The spice in question is being a side piece

    • @emilyjohn2034
      @emilyjohn2034 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@exaggeratedswagger7485which doesn’t matter. Not being a good person doesn’t justify rape. It doesn’t matter if she’s a cheater, or sleeps around, or if she flirted with the guy the night before hell even if she flirted with the guy that night. Rape is never okay and you do not get to justify it with “but they deserved it” if someone says no or even says stop mid sex you HAVE to stop. If it’s not you body you have ZERO say

  • @eliasnotelias6611
    @eliasnotelias6611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is one of the most thoughtful, and well handled Kill Counts you've done James. Absolutely incredibly done.

  • @nopizzawithoutpineapple
    @nopizzawithoutpineapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I fucking love this movie. Second and third act are incredibly fun and exciting.
    Stan stepping in glass and screaming and pulling the shards out is the most satisfying shit ever, I could watch that all day

  • @lydiakollins6590
    @lydiakollins6590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the best kill counts I’ve seen to date, I love how it’s a really buffed out film analysis (with some kills sprinkled in)

  • @funandyvideos
    @funandyvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There should be a sequel where she gets home and her neighbor asks her how her getaway went, and lets Jen know she's looking forward to her husband getting back from his boys' weekend.

  • @yungrecklessgang5624
    @yungrecklessgang5624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    4:40 “dawg she’s got what you need and you said she’s just a friend”
    RIP Biz Markie

  • @zen.1464
    @zen.1464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My mom told me a story of a girl who was raped because of how short her short was and I didn't like the fact that they blame the woman for wearing a damn "short shorts", again, she didn't asked for it, she was just a woman who wants to wear something she liked, her shorts were never an invitation to some predator's fvked up mindset. I just wish the justice is on the side of who deserves it more.

  • @camcdragon
    @camcdragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    y'know, i come to this channel for the witty jokes and quick summary
    and i leave with another movie on my bucket list

  • @fawndesilva1607
    @fawndesilva1607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This was an excellent kill count. This is definitely on my next to watch list. On another note I've been really enjoying the recount of the Friday movies. It is so obvious how much work you are putting in to them and anyone who has watched the previous ones can tell that you are not just "being lazy". How well thought out, edited and all the behind the scenes info and video you have just shows how much work and effort you put into each video. Just wanted you to know that it doesn't go unnoticed and it is much appreciated keep up the amazing work that you and your team does!!👍

  • @tyronebullockjr7479
    @tyronebullockjr7479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m gonna have to watch this movie. Nice surprise as a Sunday Kill count especially since it’s still September. James work ethic is completely unmatched.

  • @sakuragirl1102
    @sakuragirl1102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I fucking love how Jen dosent hesitate to shoot ANY of them! It’s so iconic and I love it!

  • @georgiabell5176
    @georgiabell5176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I can't watch these kinds of movies, but I love hearing the plot and seeing snippets of scenes. Thank you Dead Meat!!

  • @flyany6682
    @flyany6682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Since James said he's never done a rape revenge on this channel before prior to this I hope he considers doing one on "I Spit On Your Grave (2010)" probably the best rape revenge movies ever made! 🙎‍♂️

    • @angelaholmes8888
      @angelaholmes8888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope so too I really enjoyed the 2010 version and I spit on your grave 3

    • @jimmyb5025
      @jimmyb5025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very highly doubtful.

    • @amourex5053
      @amourex5053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right thats such a girlboss movie

    • @graystark240
      @graystark240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt he will. He mentioned the movie 3 separate times in the intro which doesn’t give me much face ironically

    • @jjkilhij9531
      @jjkilhij9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Is Swampus almost every recent comment you leave on this channel is complaining, why are you here
      hell, you said you were gonna skip this episode and yet here you are lol

  • @shuk0rina444
    @shuk0rina444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the symbolism in this movie is just wonderful. seriously it’s so well put together

  • @-buggiez-
    @-buggiez- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    (Kinda TW??) I absolutely LOVE rape revenge movies, I was raped when I was much younger (7 years old, sadly) and I bit off the tip of his finger. Later, when I told my dad, I got to watch him beat the LIVING SHIT out of my rapist. We went to court where I cried and the judge pitied my and my single father (my father is still the best person ever, and was great with explaining what happened) and we were let off scotch free. The guy who did it to me, on the other hand, has six years until he gets out of jail. Thanks for listening to my rant lmao!!