Sideshow Reveals What's The Reason Behind Him NOT ATTENDING Masters Shanghai
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i won't lie as a chinese person i was kinda worried just by the thumbnail and title that the reason was going to be something horrendously sinophobic but i am pleasantly surprised (even though the bar of "literally please don't be racist" is on the floor). it's a valid reason and props to him for doing what he feels is right in this socioeconomic climate. newfound respect for pringle man
we just dont agree with your goverment, the people is fine
@@tonyhart2744 i’m from hong kong, not china, but you’d be surprised how many people take distaste about the chinese government and turn it on the chinese people, even in hong kong where the people are ethnically han chinese like in china. you’re fully right btw and i agree with you, but i truly have seen too much sinophobia so i’m just wary now
@@maybenotoday3106 hong kong is an amazing city, i hope yall keep it that way.
This man has no problem working in a country that supports and helps a genocide in Gaza but virtue signals the chinese off of CIA talking points. Hypocritical LMAO
@@maybenotoday3106HK is still part of China, just not mainland China lol
I'm not going to lie, I would not put it past Riot to not hire him back just because he said this
well tbf, he is like one of the only casters in current VCT, who can build off a successful streaming career just purely based on his own personality. And with Platchat in the background, he will remain relevant at least as long as VCT exists. So I dont think he is that scared of it happening
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@@kalmiaflowers_riot is tencent owned. Ngl i hope they don’t hire him back, saying shit like this is not good
He wouldn't care, he probably makes more money costreaming
@orewaren8549 if he's uncomfortable about working there then he shouldn't have to work there. He didn't say anything offensive and was very respectful
COMMON sideshow W bro just used one video to say he’s educated far beyond what he’s typically able to show while talking about video games👏🏾
It's actually feels fresh for someone in Esport Industry to support humanity. We are living in screwed world, and games are one way we divert our attention for a while from all the crap.
Respect for you to stay true to your opinion. Be proud of yourself 💪
Sideshow W
I didnt even think that ppl wouldnt want to go because of it. Ofc i thought abt myself and if i was ever offered i would turn it down but i didnt think the casters were of the same mindset
Wouldn’t this level of self-reflection also be necessary for contracts in different areas?
lmao he doesn’t realize how crazy he sounds being surrounded by American propaganda for so long actually insane
I really hope bren and sideshow can continue to work for riot but if split 1 was their last time working for them so be it. I am a platchat viewer till I die
Even though his reasoning is valid, i find it pretty ironic considering the shit the west has done. Unless he has been vocal about other related issues (which I am unaware of)
He did vocally voiced against Saudi
In his video of Saudi, he said yes the West has done a lot of shit
He in no way praises the west; However, says the citizens have a voice in how the government works vs other countries,
where the government can just slience people that talk bad about them.
i get this criticism, just that he himself is from the UK/EU so likely theyll have more bias in worldview, and find it harder hard virtue signalling when they need a livelihood in their own country, its a good small step but westerners are always on this catch22
Coming from a normal country something like China is obviously hard to validate and working there is unreasonable considering their values and history. Luckily tencent is not fully supporting the ccp but they will have to fall in line
@@KL99067 He is a Valorant streamer and his role isn't to talk about politics. If he does this then he should be talking against Israel, against Taliban, against Russia, against Pakistan. Like you don't understand that this guy isn't a politician and his role isn't to talk about it so why is he saying this? He should talk about this against every country not just China if his going to do it.
Big W. It takes a lot of guts to stand up for human rights.
Huge Sideshow W
I definitely just assumed 1. China gives the impression of a locked-down type of country that wouldn't be very easy to travel to with customs and such and 2. recent move. Very surprised to learn this and actually learned about the topic he discussed as the reason for his absence from the event. I wasn't aware something that like that could be going on..
A lot of the information on the internet is propaganda by the west. If you want more concrete information, go visit the post on this subject on the valorant competitive subreddit and form your own opinion there based on evidence. I repeat, based on evidence and critical thinking (not amount of likes).
actually if you cared to research more about it, you would realize whatever this man is spouting in this video is absolutely peak brainwash by western propoganda.
I hope only Shanghai is the event BrenShow will miss, i would hope they're still gonna attend Seoul
Thinking that Tencent as being against the government is hilarious. The truth is, Tencent is huge partly because they play by the rules and get along with the the Chinese government
Respect❤
Respect 🫡
Guyz what is he talking about saudi arabia exactly?
Bigup sideshow
Massive respect, W Egg
Some of the comments I’m seeing here are concerning
dude anyone else see his hand shaking when holding his drink, he's actually cares so much about this topic 😢
-1000 social credits
valid reasons for real as a chinese person. EVEN MORE WWWWWW SIDESHOW TALKING ABOUT PALESTINE YESYESYES AND YES.
COMMON W SIDESHOW
the GOAT
honestly respect to sideshow
Incredibly based and W, but unfortunatly, i dont think riot would not doing anything about his take, chinese people is so patriotic and their government will not hesitate to force riot for maybe firing him you know, we know some content creator got blacklisted to visit the country just because some jokes
As a Palestinian, thank you Sideshow ❤️ huge W
W sideshow
when i saw the thumbnail, i was like omg plz sideshow dot be a racist, but the reason he gave is actually a pretty good reason to not go. W SIDESHOW W MELON
W Sideshow. I’m glad he mentioned about Palestine too
But riot is owned by tencent , is the same shit lul
I strongly salute and support him for his speeches lately he's one of the few to be interested in these parts- that are related to the industry- , take action, and share his thoughts about it. it's really meaningful and deserves a lot of praise.
Just hoped that he would give a little bit more exposure on the Gaza genocide situation just for the sake of letting more people know about it in Esports generally.
but not forgetting that what he already talked about is respected at least by me.
our goat!
respect
bro has not looked at his own country once
This isnt about history, it’s about current events
@@arugula517His country is one of the few who actively supports Israel CURRENTLY though?
@@silentKeys20 one country is where he was born and raised, the other is a country he has no need to go to. Even then, active engagement in an atrocity is different from support. You are making a completely false equivalency. I imagine that if masters was in isreal itself, he would be equally as hesitant to go. He also questioned whether or not this was the correct moral stance in this video itself. Ur just complaining for fun and/or dont have the ability to understand nuance
@@arugula517tell me more how the US is not complicit in facilitating a genocide and supporting an apartheid state.
@@sii8311 he isnt from the US
Respect
better not riot or ccp see this
Huge W
I mean valid I will say the United States also participates in very morally questionable things as well yet he works on the Americas broadcast so idk seems a little hypocritical
yeah for real brother the west is way worse, we have committed so much suffering all over the world and through out history and even today they still do in africa, the middle east, south america, this is very hypocritical, he works in the us while the us is sending billions in money and weapons to israel
Okay go and become Chinese citizen. Hope you will retain. Your social credit points.
This kind of reasoning will always end up being hypocritical.
No country is morally clean.
To focus on the plight of 1 specific group of people and ignore the others isn't morally virtuous.
I understand that someone might not be comfortable working somewhere though.
I AGREE with this much, isnt us built on colonizing and many instances where they have destabilized the middle east like Iraq lying about weapons of mass destruction
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The US sucks as well tho in that aspect but still W
Free Palestine 🇵🇸, free Uyghurs, W sideshow
evidence to "free Uyghurs"?
It’s so funny to say"free Uyghurs". I have a lot of Uyghurs classmates and I don’t think you know more than me about them😂😂
@@mikewhite1857 oh please, a few uyghur classmates does not represent the experience of other uyghurs. Its like saying all asians are smart, which obviously isn't true
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Respect
W Sideshow
I understand the reasoning I guess. The CCP and Saudi Govt are pretty hands on when it comes to Sporting Events hence why Sideshow feels iffy for being a caster for events hosted in those countries. I hope that one day Valorant gets a sponsorship directly from companies that the BDS named and shamed as well as from the US and Israeli govt. We'll see whether these casters moral compass truly lies.
I highly respect you for not selling your soul. Asalaam alaikum my brother.
Pretty hypocritical in my opinion but understandable
W Sideshow. I expect him to be vocal next time a black person gets gunned down by the police in America now. Issues in our own country are more important and I respect that he is using his position as a caster to address these political issues
Hes not american
First of all, he's not American. Second, this is an issue he has related to his industry which is also a very cut and dry circumstance, while the issue you're talking about is so general and situational that a random person on the internet couldn't even begin to have an impactful nuanced taken about it.
@@abhishek-ey3ej He is British and he does not support genocide, so I can't see him ever going back to England. I am glad that he is pro-Muslim at least and that must mean that he is fine with immigration in the EU. W Sideshow, I respect it
Bro he is a Valorant streamer hes not just gonna talk about that cuz he feels like it, he spoke about this cuz it had to do with Valorant and someone asked
"Look at us hosting your favorite valorant esports event, masters shanghai!" Ignore the child labor in the Henan, Shanxi, and Sichuan provinces."
"If we broadcast our country hosting things that people like, those people will like our country more even though we do villainous things"
The chinese government very blatantly played a part in getting riot (or tencent) to get the event to be hosted at shanghai. Its very similar to what sideshow talked about in his video about saudi arabia getting esports or soccer events to be there, to support their nationalism and get foreigners to like the country and be largely distracted from their blatant human rights violations
Ahh now i understand what he's meant. Yeah i hope he still go to seoul tho
@@ciputraaf he will, Korea doesn't do human rights abuses or mass genocide
GenG who is boldly supporting Taiwan might be in trouble too
In fact, GenGLoL just won msi championship in China, nothing happened.
Huge melon W
he lives in america btw
thats what i am saying . the country that started the most wars. killed millions. he lives there and then he says this. makes no sense to me. he shouldnt live in US if he says that and dont work in US also
why is bro lying
he doesn't live in america. he moved back to the UK, where he's from, many months ago
@@DontSigh Ooooooo the UK thats just as good. lets be real this is just picking and choosing where to have a good conscience. he worked at japan. where was the uncomfortableness when japan refuses to acknowledge the atrocities they committed against the Chinese and Koreans?
@@DontSigh He still goes to US for riot games . So why does he go there an not to China. China is 100000 times better than US in the things he mentions
Damn W guy
i like that he is voicing out his concerns about things that are going against human morals, and this unfair world
but if i had his view on going to China, and was him, i would go US either because they are funding Israel to commit a genocide too.. so whats that
I think bias will always exist. But aside from that, idt us gov is the same as china gov. You can work in us, shitting on us gov and say what they done is shitty and disgusting, and you will not face any reprecussion or anything close to that. It's different with china gov in context, like you can't really "openly disagree" While work there cause the gov will not let it slide and riot/tencent sill be given hard time because of it. Means you need to asslick the gov and pretend everything is good when you choose to work/associate with china (as a country ofc not the people). I'm from SEA btw and ethnically chinese so my view is kinda from neutral standpoint
So in context of what you're saying, going to the us doesn't necessarily means supporting us gov of the atrocities they committed cause you can shit on them anyway and openly against them on twitter etc. While going to china for work definitely means you need to be quiet and "passively support" The view
It is humorous that a British talked about crime of ethic murder.
Bros social credits tanked after this
idk if thats a good reason,but i respect him saying it but the chinese camps are just like the french ones, one does not excuse the other but i expect sideshow not going to france too.
sideshow thinks assimilation = genocide
honestly that's a fake news😂
HUGE W
I get his level of concern but let’s not forget that the US actively provides military support to Israel
W guy
Man might have ended his relationship with riot. Based.
Lol i respect the choice. You can do whatever you want but what you say about china is simply not true. At least able to speak out your opinion is respectful though.
First of all, respect for him to think in this direction just based on what he has heard from the news. I understand that the news in the west is what people in the west watch to see the rest of the world, but it’s through a narrow lens. Albeit that most people who believe Xinjiang mass genocide of the Uyghur population has never stepped foot into Xinjiang once or even China at that. I know it’s hard to make the move to travel, but I want to stress that not everything you see in the western media is true. Someone once said that people can lie to you, but your eyes can’t. What you see is what you see, so go out and see the world yourself and then judge it. Don’t let others judge the world for you.
The idea that you would keep working in America……After holding China to those standards…
Last I checked, America, unlike China, does not have legal slavery or concentration camps.
Correct me if im wrong but the "genocide" in this case is a cultural genocide not litteral killing for those people
I heard:
1. China gov limit the amount of children the immigrant are having thus effectively cutting their growth to minus but they still can marry local people and get assimilated (this is consider genocide btw)
2. The immigrant need to follow China culture and laws obviously
Imo i think it make sense, if u don't limit the growth of the immigrant there will be palestine and israel situation again where Israel who was coming back from the holocaust overwhelm the palestine whos been in there for quite a while with number of new people born and indoctrinate that they need to take their land back
bro works in USA lol
I respect his decision but the Xinjiang bit was just expected to someone who's never been there.
Its a great place, ppl might think the Uyghurs are oppressed there but they're not, local government body there are mostly Uyghurs. People live in harmony there (my relatives are literally mixed). Sadly you won't find the full context in western media because of sinophobia
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thank you for speaking out sideshow. its very rare for an esport person to speaking out on a matter like this. the xinjiang genocide that he said are about uyghur btw y'all can search that out
Respect the reasoning behind his decision but I do want to mention that the “genocide” in xinjiang he’s talking about is western propaganda at its finest. There are initiatives in China combatting extremists for spreading terrorist material but there is no targeted killing or genocide for Uyghurs. Not all extremists in China are associated with Uyghurs either.
I’m fully expecting my post to be bombarded with comments like “So did the CCP pay you to say that” amongst other sinophobic remarks and just want to say I will not be responding to anything non constructive.
He really shouldn't be addressing these, as if he holds the moral high ground and other people who are going doesn't care.
The man have all the right to express his own opinion and his view on why he doesn't want to go. By no mean in this clip he's stating a moral high ground above other or that people who are going doesn't care about these issues. If anything, sideshow got more of my respect for having a firm stand on these controversial topics while risking his own livelihood. People going to say he should also address the atrocities done by the western world (since he's from the west) or else he's just a hypocrite, and I completely agree, but do not diminish what the man had said.
@@faikarrm8206As he said, the situation is not like Saudi. Him not going will have zero impact on this cause he believed in.
It just felt quite forced and I just don’t think he is telling everything. He is already talking paycheck from Riot, a Chinese company, so this can’t be the sole reason.
@@faikarrm8206he doesn’t owe anyone reasoning for not going. It makes perfect sense to not want to travel this far.
The fact he brought all this up and talk about Gaza is quite confusing. I don’t think he knows much about XinJiang, not more than some Western narrative.
That’s why I think he is trying to make up some reasons to not go while making him look good
Sideshow w.
No problems about US tho which has been involved in over 3 Genocides over the last 40 years.
W side show,free plaestine 🇦🇪
But he Don't care about Israel genocide
bro i live in china, china is a beautiful place you’re missing out on and the people are incredibly nice here. there’s also a lot of european and american people in shanghai
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What about ethical cleansing of uygur muslims?
I'm sure his reasons are for the Chinese government. Not the people. I'm sure they're great people.
Just don’t be a Muslim
yea true it's actually a nice place and u cant experience it anywhere else. but wouldn't live there tho lol
@@funnyvids8119 america aint that great either brother
He is just comforting himself. He feels that Tencent, a particularly large company that has developed in China, has a bad relationship with the Chinese government, and China is relatively closed. Will the government let a company hostile to them develop? He can't even justify himself.
The pacifist usually the warmonger. Hypocrite
Literally why you should mind your own country/gov issues.
ok i get that and i respect it but who does he work in the us knowing that the us is sending billions in money and weapons to israel?
fricken american propaganda :)
Genocide supporters are fuming on this video
source of genocide?
This guy don't know tf hes talking about. Definitely misguided and misinformed
basically he fell for reddit sinophobia. hope he recovers from the mental illness
ah so he fell for the state department propaganda
It's always shocking to me that people always hand wave the things China does as "propaganda." How did this authoritarian surveillance state convince the world that there's totally nothing going on over here, just more racist propaganda! Wild.
It’s only state propaganda if you ignore literally every other country, state, human rights org, etc that’s condemned China for the persecution.
MSS shills coming out to defend their authoritarian surveillance state.
wasn't there documented proof of Uyghur cleansing as well as pictures and names of the indviduals sent to the concentration camps
@@MS-vk9ph where?
Yall are delusional if you believe this. They aint going cus they gonna watch party to make more money.
I love when people have moral standard when it comes to China but not for US when they support genocide and war in various parts of the world
@@flash._fire it's like the biggest bully telling others not to be a bully.
@@flash._fire "i dont like china and what theyre doing and won't go to the country but will happily be paid and work for china"
ofc there is a chance that the platchat team can make more money, but the ethics standpoint was 100% part of the reason
@@flash._fire Sideshow is british, but yh its not as if the brits havent commit any genocides in the world. And I really love how its also the brits that started the opium war on China and also stole hong kong from them.
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