@@aura7117nah what i think he means is that if one is creating a super team, why would an old pro who has been on and off in the pro scene be considered for a super team. i'd consider the pro who consistently kept playing and is still playing, but DL def shows he does not care about pro anymore.
@@ThatLuckyKill You realize, you do what the CEO of the team wants. If Dodo had his own team, that's his call, but Steve made it clear to both parties that they wanted to go after Doublelift AND these pros. So what are you on about?
Does doublelift not remember the last time he was on TL and they had to replace him with motherfucking TACTICAL mid year because DL wasn’t motivated and admitted he was phoning in the split during a post game interview and they ended that spring split in 9th (1st place in summer (regular season) with tactical) Now as the player who probably secured the biggest bag during the LCS’s “hayday” he is only interested in continuing to play if he can get a spot on an exodia team, since “the moneys not there atm” And he wonders why Dodo wouldn’t want to have him on the roster again….
@@AbnerFuentes nah that was in Spring of 2018, DL’s motivation issues occurred in spring of 2020 after they took championship points out of spring ( reason why “spring split didnt matter”), also TL had replaced DL’s long time friend and teammate Xmithty for broxah in the 2019/2020 offseason which had soured DL
It's not his call, it's Steve's call. You don't go behind your CEO's back, and pretend that you are following the ideas. If he bluntly told his CEO, he doesn't want Doubelift on the team, then sure.
@@freddie4682 notice how Dodo is still kicking it on TL, and DL is “retired (again)” I’m sure Dodo and Steve were on the same page and just didn’t relay their choice back to DL JoJo obviously wanted to play with berserker, and then DL If that wasn’t an option, C9 wouldn’t let Beserker go so JoJo joined c9 leaving no options for DL since that was his hailmarry I assume Dodo talked to c9, got told Berserker wasn’t for sale and thus moved on from Jojo
There is no way Steve didn't know what's going on, coming from the season where the all Korean roster underachieved and he has a chance of getting hottest NA player in LCS to show up to the sponsors he wouldn't leave things to Dodo, my bet is that neither of them where confident in double skill level and they dindt want to deal with him in the roster again.
@@school1865 cause players talk to each other more than owners for one and Steve might have wanted Double but once talked with Dodo changed his mind since he trust in Dodo roster building, otherwise Dodo would be fired on the spot, Yeon and Appa are not Jojo and Double say what u want about Double but he has a loyal following most of them american wich is huge for sponsors especially now in esport winter its kinda hard to believe that Steve the most shrewd owner of LCS would allow that to happen behind his back and not do anything, can u imagine the meeting with the shareholders of TL and have to tell them that they missed on JoJo and Doublelift cause a GM was powertriping? No way at least IMO.
@@glcsander I mean they missed out on a lot more than just Jojo and Doublelift. River was offered Gori > Apa... Idk I just think this whole situation is fucked and Dodo should have been let go it just doesn't make sense to me that Steve would be okay with this.
@@genmu1673 Look what happened to those teams, Fnatic are forever second place to G2 and TSM is not even in LCS no more and people got fired, if Dodo fucked up this massivly he shoulndt be on TL right now drama or not, he went against the will of the team owner and fucked up teir entire season and we are to believe Steve who is part of the scene since season 2 let that slide under his watch?
So basically nobody wanted double lift but they didn't want to say it in his face. Sounds like normal drama in company's. Nobody says anything in their face.
@@NeoArcon besides the fact that he showed the apology. So jojo and dodo talked about DL which prompted the apology and the fact I doubt DL is lying (he's too dumb for that) and probably has the DMs between him and jojos manager. If Steve "didn't" want it then why would DL be contacting jojo in the first place unless Steve was the one asking him to essentially scout a team.
No, not just that. DL said that jojo and his agent told him that Dodo didn’t contact them at all and completely ignored their messages until they gave DL a final warning that they were signing with C9 and DL went to Steve about it.
Who would want to play with DL if they were gonna make "superteam"? I dont understand why someone would want to play with washed up ADC that has record of not trying and states every other month he would like to stream more.
@@aura7117Being washed is not only about his mechanics which are decent. Its about his mental state. Many a time DL just went into mental shut down and didnt recover until end of the season. Sadly you need good mentals for being professional esports player.
Closer talk shit about Doublelift every stream. EVERY STREAM. The baron calls, manipulation, giving up during game, talking to the support privately so he wont help closer during game. Apparently Closer didnt play carry for 15 games in a row because he was talking to the coach behind the scene. It is insane to me. Still to this day 100T didnt post thank you message for closer. 100T has LCS trophy because of this guy. How is that possible? DL is a snake
@@aura7117Nah, Quid just wasn't good last year. And Closer has always been a good jungler in the LCS, seems pretty sus to me. And now Closer just has no team... for someone who was top 3-4 jungler his entire LCS career, that's a bit wild...?
I love how he slides past the probably bc i threw him under the bus or didnt try or something 😂 😂 😂. Dodo is having cold sweats trying not get Andy Dinh'd by DL.
bc he won 4 back-to-back titles with them before that split? Say whatever you want but DL has been the greatest player TL ever signed, and to be fair, he is way better than Yeon. @@tomjoey9
The issue isn't weather Dodo wanted him on the team or not, the issue is the *incredible* unprofessionalism of telling a potential player what he did. That's the issue. People are completely ignoring this because they hate DL
There's so many hate boners going around for DL for over a decade. I've been following league since season 2 and it's a constant barrage of people calling DL washed every single year, even after 8x LCS wins on 3 different teams.
I'm kinda the same but from my understanding, he's a hypocrite who likes to put himself on a high horse and whenever he says something out of line he back pedals and/or goes to mommy Lenna for some PR@@TroubbleBubble
@@TroubbleBubblehe's just generally pretty outspoken about stuff in league and people feel like he has a huge ego (which he probably does), people don't like how he talks in comparison to his performance while in the pro scene (which was a lot better than people give him credit for)
Ik it’s always hyperbole when people say this but Doublelift is legitimately like the only league player that actually would be working at McDonald’s without lol 🤣
he’s actually super book smart. remember he grew up as an overweight nerd in a house hold with tons of pressure on him to do well in school. He scored in the top 99% percentile on his SAT. Hes absolutely an idiot, but hes not dumb. He would be fine lol.
Dude, if he hadn't wasted his time on League of Legends and video games, he could have been successful. But from what I've seen, he's not interested in learning anything that doesn't give him instant pleasure. It's a shame because he's smart and talented, but he just doesn't seem to care about improving himself. And don't even get me started on his communication skills - he's completely unaware of how he comes across and has no self-awarness. He needs to grow up and learn some emotional intelligence.
I really don’t care about more doublelift drama, but dodo probably should just be fired. Players like licorice and river were interested in TL. Zven and stixxay available, even jojo was available and potentially interested. Instead they assemble a roster that is mid af
@naiku. haha it's unfair to criticize with hindsight but this guy legit said licorice would have been a better pick-up than impact. that's not true now but that definitely wasn't true back then either. and fuckin stixxay hahaha, what an L take all around.
It feels like people just entertain DL's delusions when speaking to him to be nice and because they know he's a little bit.. off. But he takes the pandering fully seriously. He lives on another planet lmao.
This whole comment section is such an echo chamber. It is completely unprofessional that Dodo went behind his CEO's back when Steve clearly stated he wanted to pursue this roster. If he didn't pretend that he was down for this potential roster, and said it outright that he will not assemble this roster with Doublelift on it, it would be fine. But no, he played under the table, so he is in the wrong. This whole comment section is literally talking badly about Doublelift, it doesn't matter which player is slotted there. If your CEO is telling you, they want these 5 players, and for you to make it happen, either tell him you disagree and explain why and to fire him if Steve disagrees with Dodo's opinions, instead of playing dirty. I don't care if Doublelift is washed or not, Steve makes the calls, not the GM who Steve is paying to make his ideas of rosters to reality. The echo chamber is quite delusional here.
Yea but we don’t have proof of that at all. All we have is lying ass doublelift with years of lying telling a story. Seems pretty accurate the comments would feel this way. No proof from DL has been shown to show Steve had no idea any of this was going on.
@@MatNyaga Disagreed like what I commented to on another post, "He would only be fired if the evidence was overwhelmingly convincing. Steve doesn't fire people easily. It's well known, even Dardoch was unprofessional around Steve and he stuck around for a while. They were not, and Steve would have told DL if the roster was not possible as DL made it clear he would only play if that dream roster was assembled. Add on* if the roster was not possible, it is common sense there is no benefits to either DL or Steve for hiding this. Both parties knew they would only continue IF the roster COULD be assembled, Dodo never attempted it simply because he didn't want DL to have a chance at it being assembled."
@jamesplitter14 Steve wanted DL. Pretty sure Dodo's side of the story even confirms a lot of what DL was saying, minus the malicious intent part (being shady). The fact Dodo more-or-less admitted to a lot of it being true (minus the part that would hurt him) leads me to believe DL's story probably isn't far from the truth. If we believe 'the truth is somewhere in the middle' than Dodo to some extent was acting maliciously
That GM shouldn't apologise. Star adc who proven to cause problems and not try literally says they are not gonna play for a team without these 5. Take even 1 of the other 4 and they won't play somewhere else. That's just smart GM
Smart gm has guaranteed his org becomes mid tier til the end of time on top of losing a huge asset like multiple orgs did before him. Note the trend of what happens to orgs that scapegoat doublelift. I'm not a fanboy I know hes washed but its bad business and bad form. Even star player corejj looks like shit now.
@stevennguyen1586 i mean he joins they do well he gets kicked and they fall off. And it's a pattern on multiple teams. Clg doesn't exist, tsm is on life support at best. Tl fell off after he quit but it's a big organization so ofc it can come back up. Either way it's all forever ago so it's whatever. Lcs hasn't been interesting since 2016.
@@ethosterros9430 The only team that fits that is TL, and even they did better when they kicked him off (literally look right now with their current roster, hell the tactical roster was still better than with him). Hell when tsm was down and he joined it didnt do anything, it was just the bjerg show. Stop spinning a fake narrative, DL doesnt improve orgs, they do worse with him. Also CLG had issues BECAUSE he trash talked hotshotgg so much and gave him so much heat after he invested heavily on him. When the regniald drama occurred, hotshot spoke out on DL and how his toxicity affected his business, it took years for clg to get NRG's starting roster we see now because of DL.
I mean if you have a mid tier adc, who dont try hard if is not motivated also asking for a superteam because he has a big ego because of his past, i think is pretty normal that you as a team dont want it if you wanna win xd
I like how pretty much every story DL tells is about him not trying too hard and thats why he had a bad split or whatver, but if you always have a bad split because you didn't want to play then why tf are you still in the league? and specially, why are you still in the league demanding the best players available to play for you if in the end you are not gonna put any effort into it anyway?
Not related but it triggers me to hell and back when PROFESSIONAL streamers have sound like this man pls the sound effects, the mic CONSTANTLY clipping it's so unserious
Dodo wanted all korean roster 10/10. He was talking to umti. That why he didn't want jojo. Im surprise that gori isnt on TL. Or a korea mid. Next year, apa is gone.
its basically why DoinB retired, he wanted to play with 4 other superstars because he was not in his prime anymore and wanted to get carried by them, at least he was honest about it, DL acts like he wants 4 superstars to make "the perfect team" and win everything but we all know he just wants to get carried
@@TimoCruz177 At his best, he is top 1-2 adc in NA. It's just that hes an international choker. Difference is that Doinb is a domestic choker. fpx were doing well in 2022 summer split right before worlds and then then they choked. Couldn't make it to worlds. This is while poaching the world champion top laner whose former team lost at the world finals because they didn't have him. Apples and oranges. One is an og adc respected by asian pros and the other became famous for winning worlds by playing naut mid.
@@nd7231 yeah lets not pretend DoinB is a bad player because he was playing Naut mid. both players are long passed their primes and being the top 3 ADC in NA at his prime is not saying a lot tbh but yes, some eastern players respect DL as pro player
Dom exposing how uneducated the esports scene is with 'in the gist of the moment'. But what else would we expect from the GOAT who wins games while typing novels in game.
@@Ecaea educated enough to understand that it's a setup for a joke and not criticism for whatever insecurities these poor poor first world country kids have while playing video games all day
'in the gist of the moment' was what Dodo said in his apology to DL. I don't think it's that bad of a mistake when English is his second language. You could clearly understand from the context he meant something akin to 'in the heat of the moment'.
You gotta remember there was a point where Berserker was exploring free agency. There is very much a possibility that TL approached Berserker as a way to get Jojo and just didn't tell DL
"Gist" is an extremely common word, it just doesn't mean what Dodo seems to think it means 😂 It means like "the whole thing" or like "the main point". For example "The gist of the argument is that Dodo shouldn't have been so unprofessional as to tell a potential employee that he hated another past employee".
Seems pretty normal to me. Steve and Dodo are exploring options. Steve has a better connection with DL so talks to him more and Dodo is sent to talk to Jojo.
The irony of Dlift talking about others being two faced. This guy expects the entire league to bend rosters to his will when he's not even part of any org.
I feel like if he didn’t really care and it’s “no hard feelings”, he wouldn’t have said any of this stuff on stream. He’s trying to get attention from past drama. Cancel culture is a plague… if you don’t really care, keep it private or just don’t speak about it at all. 100% salty he didn’t get picked.
Doublelift is incredibly disingenuous. Burns every bridge and shit talks everyone he ever worked with even when they bend over backwards for him. The fact that people even sided with him about TSM is completely wild when it was all his fault to begin with. He delivers results but pisses off everyone he's ever worked with and extremely self-centered.
doublelift may be self centered, conceited asshole, but with Regi episode, Doublelift was in the right. other than that, DL is wrong on almost everything.
Also, Lenna stepped to interrupt Doublelift twice already in 10mins, surely we shouldn't believe anything DL said. He is likely condemning himself soon. 😂 Lenna is the real MOM of Smolder 😂
Doublelift can't stop exposing himself as an entitled man-child. Dude has made millions from right-clicking in a video game and thinks he's the smartest person in the room 🤷♂️
so i think this boils down to its business not wanting DL on the team is fine, they can hire or not hire whoever they want. the fucked up thing is the lying to Steve and mis representing your teams interests to DL. just say your not comfortable with having him on the team and you can or can not give him reasons thats up to you but dont kind off pretend you want him on the team then ghost him while telling others its him or you and that is it. Dodo is doing like grade school behind the back shit and who knows if Steve knew about it unless Steve comes out and sais something which he wont.
Dom simply remains so unbelievably based. Ngl, I watched the DL clips before this video - and was 100% like “fuck dodo, fuck C9” Dom gave me EXACTLY the perspective I needed on this
This is the tamest drama ever. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a player saying they'd quit if he joined the team. Doublelift seems extremely entitled here. Why should only Doubelift get what he wants, what about the other 4 players on the team putting up with him soft inting for another season while bitching about how its not his fault even though he's been washed forever.
What was the point of DL's receipt? It just proved that Jojo wanted to play with Beserker and not DL. If C9 was keeping Beserker, theres no way the Jojo move would happen and then the DL signing.
Doublelift is such a problematic individual. Inserting him into a team would be detrimental to the teams long term success. I agree with Dodo here. He needs to "shut up and dribble." Play as a member of a team instead of micro managing. Leave the management to the individuals getting salaries to manage.
what do you mean? hes performed so well internationally and his recent success and winning team plays and careful adaptation and capability against players like berseker have proven he clearly knows what hes talkking about.
Lets be real Doublelift during the last 2 entire splits of his career( NOT including 100 Thieves Dlift). Was actually horrible lol. Man was struggling in the Seraphine/Enchanter bot lane meta. He couldnt play Senna as well previously and his mechanics took a nose dive off a cliff. These were the years that CoreJJ was still the Best Player in the North America. Dodo is still two- faced but I wouldnt want that version of doublelift on my team if my job and rep was riding on it. That dogwater all Korean TL is still bad but at least they didnt have to watch doublelift complaining about motivation issues playing with the Best Player in The LCS as a duo laner.
Doublelist if the single reason why team's he is on win, and the single reason why they lose. Doublelift has the same effect to his entire team as Bjergsen has to junglers.
People tend to not realize how good he is, so im not surprise that TL was thinking to build a super team with him in it. The man retired came back and still manage to get 3rd in spring 2023, probably top 4 adc still in the league. I do think that he is unaware that they are people who hate him behind his back, based on his actions. Last point, people hate on him during Spring 2019 when he was "unmotivated" and replace by tactical. Just put it in perspective. 2018 he went to worlds and perform really well as his role but overall as a team, did not do well. Came back 2019, and probably his best performance, got a quadra, played well in almost all games, but again the team didnt do so well. On top of that RIOT came out with the new system where Spring Split holds no value to worlds. So you have a guy who played well in worlds for 2 years, let down by his team, is fair to be a little unmotivated. Since 2014 to 2019, this was the first time he felt drained and people assume he gave up on the game? On top of that, he has to play a 5 month in a spring split that had no value??. The man put ur team on the map, won you 4 titles, back to back twice. You cant give him a little pass? for one split that "DID NOT MATTER". The icing on the cake is, He went to TSM and won Spring split . Proved everyone wrong. Hes the GOAT of NA, so why are we shocked? that TL is considering to build a superteam around him? I truly belive he can come back today, on the right team and still placed top 3 or even win the split.
They were 3rd in regular seasons (while having a 0-2 record against the other 3 teams in the top 4 and 1-1 against the other 2 teams who made the playoff) and ended at 5-6th overall. So while technically they did get 3rd but really they were 5-6th with a negative winrate against non bottom 4 teams. Saying spring split has no value because it doesn't help you go to World is not a good argument as you think it is. Winning spring split means you get to go MSI, the only other international tournament where you get to see how you match up against the other best team in the world. He did went to TSM after his 9th place with TL and won spring 2020 but that is just more reason not to get him if he can just not try and sabotage the team whenever he want to. And this isn't 2020 anymore so he is very much washed.
every comp adc speaking for more than 2 minutes reminds us of the painful reality that there is not and never has been a single adc player in the world with an iq over 85
DL butthurt over nothing. TL plan A was JoJo, JoJo said he wanted beserker, so Dodo said he wasn't going with DL. There's no game of thrones subterfuge happening here
Doublelift admitting that he wasn't trying in spring split is insanity. Makes you wonder how many times he just stopped trying. Definitely a liability for a GM to hire
dom didnt move his cam the entire time, that shit trigered me lmao also, why is he even leaking all that info? lmao did i miss something? did he just started saying stuff
Why would anyone want doublelift on their team after he outed himself like that. Incredibly intitled, not as good as the current talent, incredibly demanding and intentionally losing the game... it sounds like dodo wanted to win and couldn't convince the owner that doublelift was just going to force them the loss if he joined just because of his popularity.
Dom is right in that any GM would not want a player who "didn't try in Spring Split". But Dom is also glossing over the fact that Dodo was being a snake in the way he went about the roster acquisition stuff too. Steve communicated to Dodo that they should be in talks with Jojo. Dodo told DL he would talk to Jojo. But Dodo never called Jojo's agent. That's a huge red flag. Yes, a GM won't want to have a player who has a history of not trying. But a GM shouldn't ignore what the Co-CEO wants them to do.
@@Zmargo702he didn't do anything that was 'objetively shitty" as you put it DL demanded a super team (which imo is pretty shitty condition) and TL didn't make it happen so DL said fuck them How is dodo the bad guy for not wanting to work with a player that fucked them over in the past
@@DrManhattanLoL “TL didnt make it happen so DL said fuck them” I mean thats just blatantly untrue and not what happened. DL didnt demand TL to make a super team, he said he’d only play for a team he believed would win it all. Jojo and Doublelift had interest in playing with each other, going so far as Doublelift and Jojos agent being in contact. TL talked to both players and Dodo lied to Jojos agent telling him that the only way they could get DL is if TL fired Dodo. Which was a lie. Dodo admitted it in an apology DM to DL. Theres a lot more here but even Dom admits it was a shitty thing for Dodo to do.
@@Zmargo702you just contracted yourself with the super team point LOOOOOOOL Ha said that's the only way he'd play. That's by definition a DEMAND/CONDITION DL is a shitty teammate. He legit stopped trying in 2020 and blatantly said he didn't care and when they benched him for tactical all of a sudden he started caring again Stop drinking the Kool aid
Funny to come back to this video now and be like "Jojo would've be elo helled" on TL And TL won the split.. obviously we had no way of knowing when the video was uploaded, just kinda funny how it all actually transpired And yea DL is strange and either: Lies or Has to look to Leena hope he gets some kind of help or just stops lying..
If they get jojo I wouldn’t put doublelift as adc that’s more reason to throw games maybe a reckless I think jojo and berserker was better pair in a team both DL and jojo could throw a game just on how they play the game
Both things can be true. Dodo could be underminding Steve and signing DL is an insane thing to do after what he did in 2019. I don't see why these things both can be true(to people in the comments). You shouldn't want to sign DL, because the guy is clearly not motivated enough to play at a high level anymore. You shouldn't go behind the back of the owner who is employing you. Something isn't adding up here, and I don't feel like we are getting the full story from both sides. I think it is insane that anyone considered this guy for a team after hearing him talk about the situation. Seems like a spoiled brat.
Exodia but the legs are amputated
Exodia but 2 left legs and 2 right arms
Exod, the limping one
i think "no hands" would've made more sense
Ngl. Signing DL for a superteam should be the reason a gm should be fired more than this drama.
Do you think Yeon is better than Doublelift?
I mean he was way better then yeon last split and amount top 2 to 3 adcs. Easily the best domestic option available?
@@aura7117 no chance..
Anything is better than Yeon.
@@aura7117nah what i think he means is that if one is creating a super team, why would an old pro who has been on and off in the pro scene be considered for a super team. i'd consider the pro who consistently kept playing and is still playing, but DL def shows he does not care about pro anymore.
"I am not going to work unless you get me my perfect team." That sounds like a line in a heist movie or a mafia telling his boss he is quitting. 😂
"EXODIA" with DOUBLELIFT in 2024 as your adc ... ICANT
The second he said it I opened up the comments lol. He's so ego inflated it's crazy!
Dodo tried to assemble exodia, which is why he didnt want Doublelift KEKW
Yeah, assembling the EXODIA SUPERTEAM with.... 2500th best players in the world. Brilliant. You gotta love the western bs.
@@ThatLuckyKill You realize, you do what the CEO of the team wants. If Dodo had his own team, that's his call, but Steve made it clear to both parties that they wanted to go after Doublelift AND these pros. So what are you on about?
@@GreatYamatanoOrochifunny thing is theres nobody exodia worthy in NA
Does doublelift not remember the last time he was on TL and they had to replace him with motherfucking TACTICAL mid year because DL wasn’t motivated and admitted he was phoning in the split during a post game interview and they ended that spring split in 9th (1st place in summer (regular season) with tactical)
Now as the player who probably secured the biggest bag during the LCS’s “hayday” he is only interested in continuing to play if he can get a spot on an exodia team, since “the moneys not there atm”
And he wonders why Dodo wouldn’t want to have him on the roster again….
Wasn’t that the split after his parents got murdered by his brother?
Yea it was
@@AbnerFuentes nah that was in Spring of 2018, DL’s motivation issues occurred in spring of 2020 after they took championship points out of spring ( reason why “spring split didnt matter”), also TL had replaced DL’s long time friend and teammate Xmithty for broxah in the 2019/2020 offseason which had soured DL
It's not his call, it's Steve's call. You don't go behind your CEO's back, and pretend that you are following the ideas. If he bluntly told his CEO, he doesn't want Doubelift on the team, then sure.
@@freddie4682 notice how Dodo is still kicking it on TL, and DL is “retired (again)”
I’m sure Dodo and Steve were on the same page and just didn’t relay their choice back to DL
JoJo obviously wanted to play with berserker, and then DL If that wasn’t an option, C9 wouldn’t let Beserker go so JoJo joined c9 leaving no options for DL since that was his hailmarry
I assume Dodo talked to c9, got told Berserker wasn’t for sale and thus moved on from Jojo
There is no way Steve didn't know what's going on, coming from the season where the all Korean roster underachieved and he has a chance of getting hottest NA player in LCS to show up to the sponsors he wouldn't leave things to Dodo, my bet is that neither of them where confident in double skill level and they dindt want to deal with him in the roster again.
But then why would Steve even ask Doublelift about a possible roster literally would be the last guy you ask if your not interested.
@@school1865 cause players talk to each other more than owners for one and Steve might have wanted Double but once talked with Dodo changed his mind since he trust in Dodo roster building, otherwise Dodo would be fired on the spot, Yeon and Appa are not Jojo and Double say what u want about Double but he has a loyal following most of them american wich is huge for sponsors especially now in esport winter its kinda hard to believe that Steve the most shrewd owner of LCS would allow that to happen behind his back and not do anything, can u imagine the meeting with the shareholders of TL and have to tell them that they missed on JoJo and Doublelift cause a GM was powertriping? No way at least IMO.
@@glcsanderhappens more than you think, fnatic and tsm (when they existed) were big prime examples
@@glcsander I mean they missed out on a lot more than just Jojo and Doublelift. River was offered Gori > Apa... Idk I just think this whole situation is fucked and Dodo should have been let go it just doesn't make sense to me that Steve would be okay with this.
@@genmu1673 Look what happened to those teams, Fnatic are forever second place to G2 and TSM is not even in LCS no more and people got fired, if Dodo fucked up this massivly he shoulndt be on TL right now drama or not, he went against the will of the team owner and fucked up teir entire season and we are to believe Steve who is part of the scene since season 2 let that slide under his watch?
So basically nobody wanted double lift but they didn't want to say it in his face.
Sounds like normal drama in company's. Nobody says anything in their face.
Hahahaha "it's not up to me. Nobody wants doublelift. That's not my fault!" vibe
Except you know the owner of TL who specifically asked him to make a team, but yeah nobody wants him. Did you watch the video?
@@AZNGamers4Life it's all he said she said at this point. Unless the contract is signed all these, what Steve "wants" is up to debate.
@@NeoArcon besides the fact that he showed the apology. So jojo and dodo talked about DL which prompted the apology and the fact I doubt DL is lying (he's too dumb for that) and probably has the DMs between him and jojos manager. If Steve "didn't" want it then why would DL be contacting jojo in the first place unless Steve was the one asking him to essentially scout a team.
No, not just that. DL said that jojo and his agent told him that Dodo didn’t contact them at all and completely ignored their messages until they gave DL a final warning that they were signing with C9 and DL went to Steve about it.
quadruplelift drama every season, just stay retired old man
Its entertaining though
A Dom fan saying this is insane 💀
why? Let him farm drama so we can have more NA shenanigans to watch instead of the boring ass gameplay clownfiesta of LCS
Nah LCS would be boring without DL drama.
@@aura7117 At least Dom isn't delusionally trying to get back on pro teams acting like he's the best player lol
Who would want to play with DL if they were gonna make "superteam"? I dont understand why someone would want to play with washed up ADC that has record of not trying and states every other month he would like to stream more.
How is he washed? From what I remember he did fairly well on 100T and was the main reason they were winning.
@@aura7117 in your own words, he did "fairly well." How the fuck are you gonna make EXODIA with your ad only doing "fairly well"?
@treynguyen1236 Oh, sorry, I was mainly responding to him calling DL washed. I don't think DL was better than Berserker, but he's not washed.
@@aura7117Being washed is not only about his mechanics which are decent. Its about his mental state. Many a time DL just went into mental shut down and didnt recover until end of the season. Sadly you need good mentals for being professional esports player.
Uh probably the owner of TL who was the one who approached him to make the team? Did we watch the same video?
Im betting steve knew and just didnt want to burn that bridge with DL and hoped he wouldnt find out
I love how DL starts spilling the beans and the Mastermind is beside him giving him "prop cards" with what to say
Funny vid to come back to after today - TL was elo hell for sure ya ya
Closer talk shit about Doublelift every stream. EVERY STREAM. The baron calls, manipulation, giving up during game, talking to the support privately so he wont help closer during game. Apparently Closer didnt play carry for 15 games in a row because he was talking to the coach behind the scene. It is insane to me. Still to this day 100T didnt post thank you message for closer. 100T has LCS trophy because of this guy. How is that possible? DL is a snake
DL is Closer’s Piglet? 😂
Closer was trash his last season. Look how much better Quid is now that he has River.
@@aura7117 oh fuck no. I'm down to say both Closer and Quid are shit last year or that Quid improved this year. But Quid was horrendous last year
closer was absolutely terrible last year tho. He was not supposed to fall off that hard@@treynguyen1236
@@aura7117Nah, Quid just wasn't good last year. And Closer has always been a good jungler in the LCS, seems pretty sus to me. And now Closer just has no team... for someone who was top 3-4 jungler his entire LCS career, that's a bit wild...?
I love how he slides past the probably bc i threw him under the bus or didnt try or something 😂 😂 😂. Dodo is having cold sweats trying not get Andy Dinh'd by DL.
Why any TL fan would want doublelift on the team after that spring split is beyond me. Dude straight up quit on the team.
bc he won 4 back-to-back titles with them before that split? Say whatever you want but DL has been the greatest player TL ever signed, and to be fair, he is way better than Yeon. @@tomjoey9
@@tomjoey9and still DL has more championships since leaving TL than TL did lol.
@@tomjoey9TL has literally only accomplished anything with DL on the team. 4 championships with DL and 0 without in the entire history of their org.
@@paxt17yea and hes still a quitter
The issue isn't weather Dodo wanted him on the team or not, the issue is the *incredible* unprofessionalism of telling a potential player what he did. That's the issue. People are completely ignoring this because they hate DL
There's so many hate boners going around for DL for over a decade. I've been following league since season 2 and it's a constant barrage of people calling DL washed every single year, even after 8x LCS wins on 3 different teams.
@@kaidestinyzworlds appearances - groups won?
I don’t really follow the pro scene, why do people hate DL? Has he done something?
I'm kinda the same but from my understanding, he's a hypocrite who likes to put himself on a high horse and whenever he says something out of line he back pedals and/or goes to mommy Lenna for some PR@@TroubbleBubble
@@TroubbleBubblehe's just generally pretty outspoken about stuff in league and people feel like he has a huge ego (which he probably does), people don't like how he talks in comparison to his performance while in the pro scene (which was a lot better than people give him credit for)
Thank god we have Dom who has never once misspoke in his life here as a beacon of verbiage to make sure we never misspeak. Thank you Dom!
he misspeaks names, thats a different thing from just completely getting words wrong my guy
Is that all you've catched from this video?
nah leena in the background is hilarious
Old man shouting at clouds.
Doublelift ain't really smart, thought we established that.
I mean, he has to live with everyday that his girl got pipped by regi before him.
are you serious? lmaoooo his girl leena xu?@@fanwee5048 AHHAHAHAHAHAHA holy crap its true
@@fanwee5048lmfaooo this clown comment cementifies how braindead this comment section is
Dom honing in on the 'Jist of the moment' comment and not letting go for this whole video is the reason why he is my GOAT hater.
the word is “gist” btw
Ik it’s always hyperbole when people say this but Doublelift is legitimately like the only league player that actually would be working at McDonald’s without lol 🤣
he’s actually super book smart. remember he grew up as an overweight nerd in a house hold with tons of pressure on him to do well in school. He scored in the top 99% percentile on his SAT. Hes absolutely an idiot, but hes not dumb. He would be fine lol.
Dude, if he hadn't wasted his time on League of Legends and video games, he could have been successful. But from what I've seen, he's not interested in learning anything that doesn't give him instant pleasure. It's a shame because he's smart and talented, but he just doesn't seem to care about improving himself. And don't even get me started on his communication skills - he's completely unaware of how he comes across and has no self-awarness. He needs to grow up and learn some emotional intelligence.
I really don’t care about more doublelift drama, but dodo probably should just be fired. Players like licorice and river were interested in TL. Zven and stixxay available, even jojo was available and potentially interested. Instead they assemble a roster that is mid af
this is cheaper tho
@naiku. haha it's unfair to criticize with hindsight but this guy legit said licorice would have been a better pick-up than impact. that's not true now but that definitely wasn't true back then either. and fuckin stixxay hahaha, what an L take all around.
It's funny because DL is mad at dodo for being twofaced, but jojo is being twofaced too he didn't want to play on a team with him either
Dom: Wouldn't Steve have just fired him?
Revenge: Yeah
Spica: Yeah
I died
It feels like people just entertain DL's delusions when speaking to him to be nice and because they know he's a little bit.. off. But he takes the pandering fully seriously. He lives on another planet lmao.
He confused "the heat of the moment" with "the jist of it"
Leena works as Doublelift’s PR management
This whole comment section is such an echo chamber. It is completely unprofessional that Dodo went behind his CEO's back when Steve clearly stated he wanted to pursue this roster. If he didn't pretend that he was down for this potential roster, and said it outright that he will not assemble this roster with Doublelift on it, it would be fine. But no, he played under the table, so he is in the wrong. This whole comment section is literally talking badly about Doublelift, it doesn't matter which player is slotted there. If your CEO is telling you, they want these 5 players, and for you to make it happen, either tell him you disagree and explain why and to fire him if Steve disagrees with Dodo's opinions, instead of playing dirty. I don't care if Doublelift is washed or not, Steve makes the calls, not the GM who Steve is paying to make his ideas of rosters to reality. The echo chamber is quite delusional here.
If Dodo wasn't working with Steve he'd probably be fired. Steve was probably not being straight to DL because they're friendly.
Yea but we don’t have proof of that at all. All we have is lying ass doublelift with years of lying telling a story. Seems pretty accurate the comments would feel this way. No proof from DL has been shown to show Steve had no idea any of this was going on.
@@MatNyaga
Disagreed like what I commented to on another post,
"He would only be fired if the evidence was overwhelmingly convincing. Steve doesn't fire people easily. It's well known, even Dardoch was unprofessional around Steve and he stuck around for a while.
They were not, and Steve would have told DL if the roster was not possible as DL made it clear he would only play if that dream roster was assembled.
Add on* if the roster was not possible, it is common sense there is no benefits to either DL or Steve for hiding this. Both parties knew they would only continue IF the roster COULD be assembled, Dodo never attempted it simply because he didn't want DL to have a chance at it being assembled."
Has it been confirmed that DoDo went behind Steve’s back though? Maybe Steve just didn’t want DL
@jamesplitter14 Steve wanted DL. Pretty sure Dodo's side of the story even confirms a lot of what DL was saying, minus the malicious intent part (being shady). The fact Dodo more-or-less admitted to a lot of it being true (minus the part that would hurt him) leads me to believe DL's story probably isn't far from the truth. If we believe 'the truth is somewhere in the middle' than Dodo to some extent was acting maliciously
That GM shouldn't apologise.
Star adc who proven to cause problems and not try literally says they are not gonna play for a team without these 5. Take even 1 of the other 4 and they won't play somewhere else.
That's just smart GM
Smart gm has guaranteed his org becomes mid tier til the end of time on top of losing a huge asset like multiple orgs did before him.
Note the trend of what happens to orgs that scapegoat doublelift. I'm not a fanboy I know hes washed but its bad business and bad form. Even star player corejj looks like shit now.
@@ethosterros9430 Lol TL improved so much recently, btw dl is scapegoating the orgs not the other way around. Glad teams are catching up on his bs.
@stevennguyen1586 i mean he joins they do well he gets kicked and they fall off. And it's a pattern on multiple teams. Clg doesn't exist, tsm is on life support at best. Tl fell off after he quit but it's a big organization so ofc it can come back up. Either way it's all forever ago so it's whatever. Lcs hasn't been interesting since 2016.
@@ethosterros9430 The only team that fits that is TL, and even they did better when they kicked him off (literally look right now with their current roster, hell the tactical roster was still better than with him). Hell when tsm was down and he joined it didnt do anything, it was just the bjerg show. Stop spinning a fake narrative, DL doesnt improve orgs, they do worse with him. Also CLG had issues BECAUSE he trash talked hotshotgg so much and gave him so much heat after he invested heavily on him. When the regniald drama occurred, hotshot spoke out on DL and how his toxicity affected his business, it took years for clg to get NRG's starting roster we see now because of DL.
@stevennguyen1586 tactical mains malachite. Idk thats not the history I remember.
I mean if you have a mid tier adc, who dont try hard if is not motivated also asking for a superteam because he has a big ego because of his past, i think is pretty normal that you as a team dont want it if you wanna win xd
You forget, Dodo has a history of slacking because he wanted to smash for a whole season?
then why would a top player wants to work with double lift? Jojo was in constant contact with DL no?
I like how pretty much every story DL tells is about him not trying too hard and thats why he had a bad split or whatver, but if you always have a bad split because you didn't want to play then why tf are you still in the league? and specially, why are you still in the league demanding the best players available to play for you if in the end you are not gonna put any effort into it anyway?
Not related but it triggers me to hell and back when PROFESSIONAL streamers have sound like this man pls the sound effects, the mic CONSTANTLY clipping it's so unserious
Not only did he used gist wrong, he also misspelled it. Damn.
Dodo wanted all korean roster 10/10. He was talking to umti. That why he didn't want jojo.
Im surprise that gori isnt on TL. Or a korea mid. Next year, apa is gone.
Doublift looking to leena for permission to leak is so funny
So...DL wanted to get carried?
Earning almost mid six figures while getting carried, who would refuse.
its basically why DoinB retired, he wanted to play with 4 other superstars because he was not in his prime anymore and wanted to get carried by them, at least he was honest about it, DL acts like he wants 4 superstars to make "the perfect team" and win everything but we all know he just wants to get carried
@@TimoCruz177 At his best, he is top 1-2 adc in NA. It's just that hes an international choker. Difference is that Doinb is a domestic choker. fpx were doing well in 2022 summer split right before worlds and then then they choked. Couldn't make it to worlds. This is while poaching the world champion top laner whose former team lost at the world finals because they didn't have him. Apples and oranges. One is an og adc respected by asian pros and the other became famous for winning worlds by playing naut mid.
@@nd7231 yeah lets not pretend DoinB is a bad player because he was playing Naut mid. both players are long passed their primes and being the top 3 ADC in NA at his prime is not saying a lot tbh but yes, some eastern players respect DL as pro player
Dom exposing how uneducated the esports scene is with 'in the gist of the moment'. But what else would we expect from the GOAT who wins games while typing novels in game.
I mean many of these players dropped out of school just to play games. How educated do you want them to be. Many of them have social anxiety too.
@@Ecaea educated enough to understand that it's a setup for a joke and not criticism for whatever insecurities these poor poor first world country kids have while playing video games all day
'in the gist of the moment' was what Dodo said in his apology to DL. I don't think it's that bad of a mistake when English is his second language. You could clearly understand from the context he meant something akin to 'in the heat of the moment'.
You gotta remember there was a point where Berserker was exploring free agency. There is very much a possibility that TL approached Berserker as a way to get Jojo and just didn't tell DL
"Gist" is an extremely common word, it just doesn't mean what Dodo seems to think it means 😂 It means like "the whole thing" or like "the main point". For example "The gist of the argument is that Dodo shouldn't have been so unprofessional as to tell a potential employee that he hated another past employee".
That part was unprofessional of dodo but he’s 100% in the right for not wanting to deal with double lift…
Seems pretty normal to me. Steve and Dodo are exploring options. Steve has a better connection with DL so talks to him more and Dodo is sent to talk to Jojo.
Princess DoubleLift, forever in our hearts.
I still feel 'jist in the moment' in my bones and laugh
The irony of Dlift talking about others being two faced. This guy expects the entire league to bend rosters to his will when he's not even part of any org.
I feel like if he didn’t really care and it’s “no hard feelings”, he wouldn’t have said any of this stuff on stream. He’s trying to get attention from past drama. Cancel culture is a plague… if you don’t really care, keep it private or just don’t speak about it at all. 100% salty he didn’t get picked.
Leena, the CEO turned OF creator, pushing for him to leak stuff is just a classic.
Crazy you're dissing people who've achieved more in their 20s than you probably ever will
@@RadialSeeker113 Are achievements valid reasons to not call people out for acting like degenerates lmao?
ur subbed to her? @@RadialSeeker113
@@RadialSeeker113 Because that's what decides what a good person is, how succesfull you are....
Wait she does OF now😂 DL just getting disrespected left right and centre
How is that exodia if you have DL as adc tho... Im so confused
Well he has more lcs titles than any other adc.
@@jakewishart9946 old
Doublelift is incredibly disingenuous. Burns every bridge and shit talks everyone he ever worked with even when they bend over backwards for him. The fact that people even sided with him about TSM is completely wild when it was all his fault to begin with. He delivers results but pisses off everyone he's ever worked with and extremely self-centered.
doublelift may be self centered, conceited asshole, but with Regi episode, Doublelift was in the right. other than that, DL is wrong on almost everything.
Also, Lenna stepped to interrupt Doublelift twice already in 10mins, surely we shouldn't believe anything DL said. He is likely condemning himself soon. 😂
Lenna is the real MOM of Smolder 😂
Doublelift can't stop exposing himself as an entitled man-child. Dude has made millions from right-clicking in a video game and thinks he's the smartest person in the room 🤷♂️
Tbf, if he actually thought that, do you think he would need to confirm everything with Leena?
@@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV confirmation bias is a very real thing my guy.
Why didn’t Steve take DK ghost I think he would pair perfectly with core but core now a days is just trolling
What EXODIA? bro is washed up
Probably exodia with missing all the limbs
Exodia without his right arm.
Everything DL is saying is irrelevant bc dodo would be fired if what DL is saying was true
fair enough. I wouldn't want doublelift either
dude the more i hear doublelift tell these type of stories the more i lose respect for him.
I think this Dodo guy has a paycut on Yeon or other TL member :)
it's for sure.
crazy how much drama doublelift is in but he seems to never be the issue
DL doesn't even deserve a super team at this point.
DL: He doesn’t respect you, it’s called being polite and putting professional relations of your employer above your own feelings.
so i think this boils down to its business not wanting DL on the team is fine, they can hire or not hire whoever they want. the fucked up thing is the lying to Steve and mis representing your teams interests to DL. just say your not comfortable with having him on the team and you can or can not give him reasons thats up to you but dont kind off pretend you want him on the team then ghost him while telling others its him or you and that is it. Dodo is doing like grade school behind the back shit and who knows if Steve knew about it unless Steve comes out and sais something which he wont.
Dom simply remains so unbelievably based. Ngl, I watched the DL clips before this video - and was 100% like “fuck dodo, fuck C9”
Dom gave me EXACTLY the perspective I needed on this
This is the tamest drama ever.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with a player saying they'd quit if he joined the team.
Doublelift seems extremely entitled here.
Why should only Doubelift get what he wants, what about the other 4 players on the team putting up with him soft inting for another season while bitching about how its not his fault even though he's been washed forever.
What was the point of DL's receipt? It just proved that Jojo wanted to play with Beserker and not DL. If C9 was keeping Beserker, theres no way the Jojo move would happen and then the DL signing.
Doublelift is such a problematic individual. Inserting him into a team would be detrimental to the teams long term success. I agree with Dodo here. He needs to "shut up and dribble." Play as a member of a team instead of micro managing. Leave the management to the individuals getting salaries to manage.
what do you mean? hes performed so well internationally and his recent success and winning team plays and careful adaptation and capability against players like berseker have proven he clearly knows what hes talkking about.
DL too dumb to realize Steve don't want him.
But Steve did want him. He's said it multiple times over the past few years
Lets be real Doublelift during the last 2 entire splits of his career( NOT including 100 Thieves Dlift). Was actually horrible lol. Man was struggling in the Seraphine/Enchanter bot lane meta. He couldnt play Senna as well previously and his mechanics took a nose dive off a cliff. These were the years that CoreJJ was still the Best Player in the North America.
Dodo is still two- faced but I wouldnt want that version of doublelift on my team if my job and rep was riding on it.
That dogwater all Korean TL is still bad but at least they didnt have to watch doublelift complaining about motivation issues playing with the Best Player in The LCS as a duo laner.
Doublelist if the single reason why team's he is on win, and the single reason why they lose. Doublelift has the same effect to his entire team as Bjergsen has to junglers.
Doublelift's ego is just too big, it's pretty cringe.
To me, it seems like Doublelift has an absurd level of entitlement.
he earns it becuase he can easily recruit top players and many top players in LCS respect him.
People tend to not realize how good he is, so im not surprise that TL was thinking to build a super team with him in it. The man retired came back and still manage to get 3rd in spring 2023, probably top 4 adc still in the league. I do think that he is unaware that they are people who hate him behind his back, based on his actions. Last point, people hate on him during Spring 2019 when he was "unmotivated" and replace by tactical. Just put it in perspective. 2018 he went to worlds and perform really well as his role but overall as a team, did not do well. Came back 2019, and probably his best performance, got a quadra, played well in almost all games, but again the team didnt do so well. On top of that RIOT came out with the new system where Spring Split holds no value to worlds. So you have a guy who played well in worlds for 2 years, let down by his team, is fair to be a little unmotivated. Since 2014 to 2019, this was the first time he felt drained and people assume he gave up on the game? On top of that, he has to play a 5 month in a spring split that had no value??. The man put ur team on the map, won you 4 titles, back to back twice. You cant give him a little pass? for one split that "DID NOT MATTER". The icing on the cake is, He went to TSM and won Spring split . Proved everyone wrong. Hes the GOAT of NA, so why are we shocked? that TL is considering to build a superteam around him? I truly belive he can come back today, on the right team and still placed top 3 or even win the split.
They were 3rd in regular seasons (while having a 0-2 record against the other 3 teams in the top 4 and 1-1 against the other 2 teams who made the playoff) and ended at 5-6th overall. So while technically they did get 3rd but really they were 5-6th with a negative winrate against non bottom 4 teams.
Saying spring split has no value because it doesn't help you go to World is not a good argument as you think it is. Winning spring split means you get to go MSI, the only other international tournament where you get to see how you match up against the other best team in the world. He did went to TSM after his 9th place with TL and won spring 2020 but that is just more reason not to get him if he can just not try and sabotage the team whenever he want to. And this isn't 2020 anymore so he is very much washed.
every comp adc speaking for more than 2 minutes reminds us of the painful reality that there is not and never has been a single adc player in the world with an iq over 85
DL its been an "hasbeen" for like 6 years, dont know why he thinks he is still relevant
Still waiting for the moment DL realizes Steve has been the one playing him and threw Dodo under the bus ; )
"Unless I'm getting carried by 4 other players, I'm not gonna play"
DL is so washed , why would anyone want him , when he admitted to not trying 🤡. He just complains and is never the problem?
The BP oilspill southpark episode reference. Mint.
I’m starting to think the DL stands for delusional
"cus i threw in the bus... or smth"
Only time this channel pops up in my feed is when you mention Doublelift.
Sounds like Dodo stood on business.
Elo hell = wins split
The funniest thing is that TL would be way more successful if dodo left and DL joined
They'll still be the same whoever leave or join
DL butthurt over nothing. TL plan A was JoJo, JoJo said he wanted beserker, so Dodo said he wasn't going with DL. There's no game of thrones subterfuge happening here
my ears
Doublelift admitting that he wasn't trying in spring split is insanity. Makes you wonder how many times he just stopped trying. Definitely a liability for a GM to hire
dom didnt move his cam the entire time, that shit trigered me lmao
also, why is he even leaking all that info? lmao did i miss something? did he just started saying stuff
Why would anyone want doublelift on their team after he outed himself like that. Incredibly intitled, not as good as the current talent, incredibly demanding and intentionally losing the game... it sounds like dodo wanted to win and couldn't convince the owner that doublelift was just going to force them the loss if he joined just because of his popularity.
that chat is so cancer
god i can’t wait for thorin’s reaction to this
Dom finally escaped from the Mord ult 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sneaky and Doublelift are the best ADC NA has ever seen.
Keep their meat in there bro
Yo, professional influencers HOW BAD ARE YOUR MICS
Dom is right in that any GM would not want a player who "didn't try in Spring Split".
But Dom is also glossing over the fact that Dodo was being a snake in the way he went about the roster acquisition stuff too.
Steve communicated to Dodo that they should be in talks with Jojo. Dodo told DL he would talk to Jojo. But Dodo never called Jojo's agent. That's a huge red flag.
Yes, a GM won't want to have a player who has a history of not trying. But a GM shouldn't ignore what the Co-CEO wants them to do.
how did this objectively shitty thing that Dodo did turn into the “Doublelift sucks” party lmaoo
Yep. Objectively wrong that Dodo won a split.
@@DrManhattanLoL Has absolutely nothing to do with this situation or what I said
@@Zmargo702he didn't do anything that was 'objetively shitty" as you put it
DL demanded a super team (which imo is pretty shitty condition) and TL didn't make it happen so DL said fuck them
How is dodo the bad guy for not wanting to work with a player that fucked them over in the past
@@DrManhattanLoL “TL didnt make it happen so DL said fuck them”
I mean thats just blatantly untrue and not what happened. DL didnt demand TL to make a super team, he said he’d only play for a team he believed would win it all. Jojo and Doublelift had interest in playing with each other, going so far as Doublelift and Jojos agent being in contact. TL talked to both players and Dodo lied to Jojos agent telling him that the only way they could get DL is if TL fired Dodo. Which was a lie. Dodo admitted it in an apology DM to DL. Theres a lot more here but even Dom admits it was a shitty thing for Dodo to do.
@@Zmargo702you just contracted yourself with the super team point LOOOOOOOL
Ha said that's the only way he'd play. That's by definition a DEMAND/CONDITION
DL is a shitty teammate. He legit stopped trying in 2020 and blatantly said he didn't care and when they benched him for tactical all of a sudden he started caring again
Stop drinking the Kool aid
Funny to come back to this video now and be like "Jojo would've be elo helled" on TL
And TL won the split..
obviously we had no way of knowing when the video was uploaded, just kinda funny how it all actually transpired
And yea DL is strange and either:
Lies
or
Has to look to Leena
hope he gets some kind of help or just stops lying..
Gist. GIST.... G I S T its triggering me. I heard him use it, and it bugged me, but then I saw it written...
It’s not a big deal lol. English is not his first language
I stand with Dodo on this. Doublelift is not a competitor
Both of Them is just dumb, dl wanted a super team to even play the game, while every since dodo become GM, TL been going down worst and worst
Doublelift gets increasingly unbearable in this clip.
What if they leaked that to whoolo?
Why would players even get a say
If they get jojo I wouldn’t put doublelift as adc that’s more reason to throw games maybe a reckless I think jojo and berserker was better pair in a team both DL and jojo could throw a game just on how they play the game
Both things can be true. Dodo could be underminding Steve and signing DL is an insane thing to do after what he did in 2019. I don't see why these things both can be true(to people in the comments). You shouldn't want to sign DL, because the guy is clearly not motivated enough to play at a high level anymore. You shouldn't go behind the back of the owner who is employing you. Something isn't adding up here, and I don't feel like we are getting the full story from both sides. I think it is insane that anyone considered this guy for a team after hearing him talk about the situation. Seems like a spoiled brat.