My mum always complains that my original composed music pieces have too many repetitions, so I have just given her this video to watch. She is now nothing to say.
Yeah true but maybe she wants u to extend for more and try to do something different bcuz other ppl who don’t study music look at music differently from actual musicians/artist.
Z L. Please tell me you're joking, Darwin was right, we know that now, we have DNA evidence to prove he was right. Scientists have concluded that Darwin (though he may not have been correct about everything) had many points leading to the general idea that we can prove now are 100% factual. If you were joking, I'm sorry about this, then.
There are intervals here and there that makes some harmony, for a brief moment. Also, our ears (if you've grown up and lived your life exposed to western tonal music) are constantly looking for a key center, so when you finally hear something that has some harmony, you latch unto it.
That's why I feel like this whole "Ugliest music" project was wrong from the beginning. Ugliness is as subjective as beauty is. For some, beauty in music is rooted in what he said (repetition of motifs) but for others, beauty simply resides in the satisfaction of a music that is fitting to a certain context. If this music was listened to in the right context, it could really be considered beautiful.
@@CosmicTeapot nah art is not fully subjective , maybe with abstract art but not in storytelling , films , most music and video games (if you do count that as a art)
The pianists time keeping ability is incredible that he can play something totally lacking in rhythm and keep track of where each note should go. That's not easy.
I think he's concentrating very hard. Such a piece can't be easy to play. The predictability and rythmn of usual music pieces make them easier to play. But without any pattern to follow, you have to concentrate very hard to find the right keys and press them in just the right time.
I don't think he's pissed. I think that this would require intense concentration. This would be very difficult to play as it defies all musical convention.
Humans have trouble creating true randomness, we end up making everything less random but trying to make it "seem" random if you follow that. There would be more patterns, yet still what you're saying is relatively correct, but true randomness would look less random than anything human generated. You're correct, this is more informal than critical, kind of... random. That's one weird paragraph...
Basically, your perception of randomness is something like 1748452648091373759 - a number with a lot of different digits, no immediate repetition, and no clear pattern. Real randomness looks like this: 1195712432266473 Note that some numbers are 'clumped'. When you shuffle a pack of cards, if you draw three consecutive cards in a row, you might say it was shuffled badly. However, that sequence of cards is just as random as, say, Aclubs 7hearts 3spades. You recognise patterns as not ever occurring randomly, but they happen surprisingly often.
Actually that was my first thought, no joke. If the performer had added some dynamics and expressivity, it wouldve given a completely different effect.
So funny. My cat lies on my legs when I listen to music (classical) on my IPad. She tolerated about 4 minutes of this, frantically writhing around. Then she jumped off and headed out of the room, clearly disgusted.
+Kelvin Chau for me sight reading is like i do it perfectly than i just mess one rest or so than im like oh fuck were are we and i give up till we start again...
Me before the video: no music is ugly After the video after all the skipping to get to the music: mother of me that sounds exactly the way I played when I was two oh those memories I love it. Ears: you sure there mate
okay, I assume everyone who wrote in the comments "that sounds like me!" probably skipped right to the music. Scott Rickard actually uses the time before the video to explain exactly why that is just not the case, since this piece, while technically sounding random, actually is almost impossible to write. So it doesn't sound like you tapping random keys, it sounds BEYOND you tapping random keys!
@@pkl-yt what I believe they're trying to say, is that the first time at 9:16, the pianist plays notes that go up a minor third, which if you look at a staff, is one space or line apart with the higher note flatted. (Think G to Bb, or C to Eb) The specific minor third in question is F# to A, then it happens again immediately after, but at a higher interval, it's at a higher pitch, but the notes are the same space apart. You'll notice that they sound very similar, as they are both the same type of chord. Hope this helps!
+FesliyanStudios It's still technically a musical piece so most professional musicians would respect it and the composer by playing at as perfectly as possible. But yeah it's entertaining lol.
+thewu1313 Well no, a drunk guy banging piano keys would still have some sort of "pattern" mechanism in the subconscious, he might come back to the same key over and over, or he might just be banging right, left, right, left and that's some kind of repetition in the "random" drunk banging. The talk is specifically about how randomness can NEVER produce this kind of music.
Blaze Nelson It Would Be Even Uglier If All The Notes Were The Same Length (Especially Excluding Ties) Edit: I Just Changed My Profile Pic. So It Took Me A Few Seconds To Realize This Comment Is Mine
This is highly structured sound. With regards to his justification for why this would be the world's "ugliest music", there are a lot of underlying assumptions here about how we perceive patterns, how we perceive sound, and how we perceive music that are not quite right. Among other things, we hear direction (up/down) as patterned, and the x3 structure creates quite a few directional patterns, particularly near the beginning of the piece. It's not a surprise that many of the commenters are hearing this as beautiful. The piano itself is sonorous, and the pedaling and dynamic choices of the player bring out musical lines and harmonic elements.
As I said at one comment, looks like this one just cares about the distance between the notes N and N+1 at the piano (with N being note currently playing and N+1 being the next note you will play) being always different. To make this even uglier, he could also care about the distance between N and N+2 being always different, also N and N+3, N and N+4 and this goes on.
AstroKittyKiki Yasss I think he's trying to say that the piece could not allow patterns like (taking all notes as numbers) 1,3,2,6,3 as there is a repeated pattern in that both the 1st and 3rd notes and the 3rd and 5th notes have a relation of going up by 1, and the difference between them is the same (3-1=5-3). Similarly, 1,4,3,7,2,9 would also be not allowed because it goes up by 2 between both the 1st and 3rd notes and the 4th and 6th
The thing is, once you get into atonal music, the thing that most people notice are pitch relations and octave relations. There are certain patterns repeated, especially in the beginning, where those relationships hold true and are more important than actual pitch. The piece has a sort of pattern where this is true.
I was wondering why all the notes are played loud though, why couldn't he apply the Golomb ruler he used to get pattern-free note durations to also get pattern-free dynamic nuances?
@@isodo2452 Either I know.I'm not literally asking why everything was played loudly, I'm questioning why they set everything to be played in forte in the piece.
I actually did manage to locate a bit of repetition. At 9:16, you will hear a minor 3rd interval (Gb to A, if I'm not mistaken). Immediately following that you will hear a Gb in the higher octave followed by the A located a minor 10th above it. Not technically repetition in the strictest sense, but (musically) the effect is that you hear the same Gb to A minor 3rd interval twice in a row.
Honestly, the lack of repetition doesn't make it ugly. Sure, it creates an off-kilter feel as your brain tries to grab onto a pattern that isn't there, but that just gives it a creepy, haunting vibe that would fit in with a horror movie.
+Just A Dude It's not BAD. It's sounds awful. I find myself a very sensitive person so if you'd ask my opinion about that music I'd say It would gave me a headache. And it really did. It's almost as awful as water dropping in the kitchen in the middle of the night. I hate all those sounds that things make because people somehow can't create unrepeted stuff. Two days ago I was in pain almost the whole day so he said right: this music feels literally like pain. It hits you, it goes up and gown and makes you lose control over your feelings, and your brain is like wtf and you try to find a pattern (I do this when i'm in pain) and you can't and it annoys you so freaking much you can't bear it anymore. That's how I felt.
+Дарья Минеева Exactly. This music is too smart for human brain to bare, and that is why it sounds horrible. As he said, it could be made only by mathematics so if you are not mathematician and even if you are you cant propably understand it.
True, interesting point I guess that's what makes this kind of music suitable for horrors. Unknown, no order or sense... No logic. Like how we find the dark creepy, we can't get our bearings
+韩光 Try Megadeth Into the lungs of hell, Slayer South of heaven or Dream Theater In the presence of enemies, if you want good music for hell soundtrack
Xyluss Nelms Probably because he practised it a fuck-tonne because this piece is impossible to play. Do you think this was the first time he had played it?
Bradly Fray breathing, heartbeats, etc are repetition. a repetition fre life couldnt last for more than one breath or heartbeat or any other repeating bodily function
Honestly, i kinda like it. It feels like there's something chaotic, anxious yet at the same time feels peaceful and orderly. And there's this sense of twistedness, darkness and beauty to it. And the sudden abruptness of the last note before stopping feels like how death is.
+dezzick398 Well, I mean it is kinda scary if you think about it... Music, something highly emotional, is turned into something coldly calculated. I feel like this would be a pretty smart choice for a musical leitmotiv of a psychopath who kills for opportunistic reasons and has no mercy. Plus, the thing sounds pretty disturbing...
I am both a music lover and a maths lover. I didn't know what to say when I was hearing the music... And now, three letters come out of my mind. That's O-M-G.
I find myself starting to listen more to the timbre of the piano, which is kind of gorgeous. It's probably either that, or I have the strangest musical taste on the planet.
I have never listened to Schoenberg or Stockhausen (or at least I don't remember doing so), I heard some avantgarde music and hated it, but this was really nice mostly...
Same. I think they could have made it uglier if they had sped up the tempo and changed the timbre to something more muddled like a tuba. Random-sounding notes work surprisingly well when played slowly and with a pleasing timbre, like a piano or cello. That's why I like Webern's string music but can't stand his vocal "cantatas".
at 8:10 and other places i hear an octaves, but it does not necessarily convey any pattern at all. The only way to 'err ' would be to create a pattern. However, the ear is a pattern-seeking organ and it will probably find a hidden design anyway. Mine, for example, imagines these pitches harmonized, thereby giving them pattern within tonality, and making them more significant, thereby more memorable.
There is no need to follow the musical score. Who could tell if you played a note wrong? I could sit there and play it with my feet and still get applause.
The funniest thing about it is that he actually played that piece perfectly. And it would extremely hard to do so due to the lack of any sort of pattern.
This. Also they only cared about the distance (at the piano) between an Note X at music score and an note X+1 at music score always being different. They didnt cared about the distance between note X and note X+2 being different and X+3........ As some example a song that start with those piano keys in order 9|3|7|5|....., the distance between 9 and 3 is 6 notes, the distance between 3 and 7 is 4 notes, the distance between 7 and 5 is 2 notes. But, the distance between 9 and 7 is two notes apart, the same distance between 3 and 5. So when you compare an note N (as some example the note 9) with a note at position N +2 at music score (at this case is note 7), you can have situations where the distance between the note N and note N +2 at other areas of music sheet are the same.
I don't know what he's smoking...this is beautiful. It's dark and foreboding, like the killer is lurking around the next corner...then the phone rings and the power goes out.
I absolutely disagree that this is the "ugliest music possible". I find it very odd that this piece was written so that pianist only plays one note at a time. As a professional musician and appreciator of many genres of music, the piece honestly didn't seem to be anything extraordinarily "ugly", as there are many pieces that employ twelve-tone serialism ... and man, (this is a matter of personal opinion, of course) I've heard some contemporary jazz that sounds WAY worse than this, specifically BECAUSE more than one note--in fact, multiple dissonant chords--are played simultaneously. I generally am not a fan of atonal music and this piece fits that bill, so while I agree that this piece certainly is not "beautiful", I find it to be far from the "ugliest music possible". The following are the only aspects potentially "unique" to this piece: the piece demonstrates twelve-tone serialism employing ALL octaves; there is no "repetition", (though not "repetition", as there is no repeating phrase per se, the ascending octaves of D should be noted as well as the fact that a low A precedes the three ascending octaves of D an a high A is played right after the final of these three D's; listen to 8:05 - 8:11); only one note is played at a time [which, to me, makes it practically impossible for this piece to be the "ugliest" piece ever composed... overlapping dissonant chords creates much uglier #cacophony]. If this comment doesn't make much sense to you, I should note that I teach online music theory lessons, just FYI: www.summersweesingh.com/contact #summersweesingh :) #twelvetoneserialism #twelvetonerow #musictheorylessons #chromaticscale #musictheory #repetition #tedx #science #dissonance #scottrickard
+Leviathan268 ...because people give Ted talks for the number of TH-cam views they'd get? Ah, I'd really hope not :/ I think he needed to do a little more research either way; twelve tone serialism isn't anything new.
I don't think you really got why it is considered "the world's ugliest music"... it is because, what he said at the beginning of what makes the masterful pieces of music beautiful, is its repetition; thats why a pattern-free song would be at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, making it in the world's ugliest music, if seen from the repetition point of view.
+Pablo Larios I watched the same video as you and I'm telling you that there already exists A TON of music (much of contemporary jazz) without any pattern and much of it sounds way more dissonant and cacophonous than this piece BECAUSE more than one note is played simultaneously--for something to even be dissonant it has to be dissonant in relation to something else, you can't have that when playing one note at a time. He shouldn't have used a superlative as a title, I understand what he was going for but again, he should have done more research. What he produced has more or less already been done by multiple composers.
+Dyl Pikkle As I already replied to another person, there already has been music composed before this Ted talk was given (decades ago) by composers who purposely wrote without a pattern. It is mathematically ugly, yes, but not the ugliest. A superlative should not be used because it simply isn't true. Again, ugly is a matter of opinion as I said in my initial statement; so feel free to disagree, I'm not offended. I'm just telling you what many other musicians find to be "ugly" includes dissonance and this piece has none of that.
This is a horrible name for a wonderful talk. Working on the internet, I refused to click on this till I was compelled by my friend, and am SO happy I did.
This is a great presentation. However, as a pianist, I note one pattern consistently performed throughout the piece. Each new sound we hear is a single note --- not chords, nothing happening at once, or even overlapped at all, except incidentally. So, this music doesn't go far enough if it wants to avoid repetition. The texture of the piece is comprised of the repetition of one note at a time.
I know it's a joke, but for real his songs can be sung better by someone else so the SONGS aren't worse than the piece shown in this video. Only the singer is terrible (jacob)
Hahaha well... you could write exactly the same thing changing the time signature... so maybe the important thing here is the hearing, not the sheet xD in that case there are lots of repetitions, like the key, the clef, even the instrument...
I dunno if anything its massively impressive that he could perform a totally patternless piece to any capacity at all since our understand of music revolves around pattern.
Float Exactly. I'm a piano player (not professional hey) and you rely on patterns a LOT to be able to play a piece : repetitions, some repeated finger-to-this-key combination... All of it is supposed to be logical, and pattern-ful
Actually, this just improves his musical career. There are both students and lecturers at my old college (Royal College or Music....) that would lap this up as music in it's purest form! He could literally have a career just performing this piece if he wanted! I personally don't get that, but then, I've never enjoyed that modern almost random style of classical music and composers such as Sheornberg and Boulez hold no interest for me what so ever.
You can see the clear pain in the pianist's face.
That's the face a person makes when they hate their job but are waiting to quit until their last pay day to submit their resignation.
You can also tell that he's trying to articulate the notes, but it's difficult to articulte without proper phrasing. Poor guy, that'd kill my head.
Compromising art, again, for the sake of the masses (or maths).
Fun fact: If you listen to the song a hundred of times you'll finally appreciate it because you will hear the repetition of the entire piece itself
That's actually Stockholm Syndrome
@@ArthurAgamenon_ what ? how?
@@lightingstrike7285 I'm sorry bout this kind of music is for a small niche outside the social dogma
Lol..Have u ever listened to REVOLUTION #9 of The Beatles.??
@@hometv4166 ... which is based on the repeated occurence of "number 9"
To be fair, if you were to make a mistake, almost no one would be able to tell.
CubicLugion im hearing a pattern of mistakes here
CubicLugion unless it was a consonant interval
Yeah
@@Bronsteino
They didn't say consonant intervals weren't allowed tho. They just can't repeat notes, intervals, or rhythm structures
If it doesn't sound terrible you know he made a mistake.
"A song only a mathematician could write"
*Terrible noise plays*
Me: Hold my beer
Hans Sommer: hold my beer
Justin bieber: hold my baby juice
SCP-012: Hold me!
@@autobotCRSHR that IS a really good one
A song only a bad mathematician could write.
My mum always complains that my original composed music pieces have too many repetitions, so I have just given her this video to watch. She is now nothing to say.
r/ThatHappened
Whenever I try to compose something even just a simple melody it turns out to be so repeatative.
I’m the inverse for whatever reason, I can keep a running melody going for very long without shifting
Yeah true but maybe she wants u to extend for more and try to do something different bcuz other ppl who don’t study music look at music differently from actual musicians/artist.
Two hundred years of math and this is the result.
Humans are a wonderful species.
hell yeah
praise it bby
more like 4000 years
XDXD apple pie you probably believe darwinism. haha you is dumb.
Z L.
Please tell me you're joking, Darwin was right, we know that now, we have DNA evidence to prove he was right. Scientists have concluded that Darwin (though he may not have been correct about everything) had many points leading to the general idea that we can prove now are 100% factual. If you were joking, I'm sorry about this, then.
The highlight of this mans career.
Playing non sense while hundreds watch.
lol but it's very carefully constructed nonsense.
Surely not the highlight of his career, just another gig, but hopefully a decent-paying one.
He is literally a member of the new world symphony
Starzoid Starzoid dang, are you his best friend or did you do some heavy research on him???
The guy speaking literally says this right before he plays the piece... Guess you weren't listening...
There are actually some parts of the composition that did make "melodic sense" to me...
There are intervals here and there that makes some harmony, for a brief moment.
Also, our ears (if you've grown up and lived your life exposed to western tonal music) are constantly looking for a key center, so when you finally hear something that has some harmony, you latch unto it.
Those intervals come in triplets, huh?
I give it 3 out of 12 mathematicians.
@ Have you ever heard somethin' uglier?
which part it's interesting to hear that
It was ok.
If he hit the wrong note no one would know but him
True, there's actually nothing written on his sheet!
Jack Cooper yes there is
Kind of like jazz...:)
Jaxon Starke No.
All in good fun Mr. McAllister
You just think this is ugly because you've never heard me trying to play
You're not the only one.
Badgabr music starts at 7:48
Equiscend thx
Igor Marcos you are a saint
Same lolo
Pianist : *Playing*
Pianist : *Finished Playing*
Audiences : *Clap Clap Clap*
Pianist : *Smile*
Pianist : *I didn't even read the music LOL*
he missed a note tsk tsk
So funny 😂😂😂😂
Could make for unsettling atmosphere in the right horror film.
Exactly
That's why I feel like this whole "Ugliest music" project was wrong from the beginning. Ugliness is as subjective as beauty is. For some, beauty in music is rooted in what he said (repetition of motifs) but for others, beauty simply resides in the satisfaction of a music that is fitting to a certain context. If this music was listened to in the right context, it could really be considered beautiful.
@@CosmicTeapot it could be the worst music in the world
@@CosmicTeapot nah art is not fully subjective , maybe with abstract art but not in storytelling , films , most music and video games (if you do count that as a art)
The Lighthouse comes to mind.
i love whistling this song on the way to work
I can understand why - it's so catchy.
me trying to find the right note
relatable, only been playing 5 or 6 months
Same but I've been playing for like 3-4 year's a ND I still can't find the right note
@@jessicawang8303 TRUE
I laughed😂 but yeah I can relate.
And I’ve been playing the piano for 7 years...doing some advanced Beethoven stuff rn..ya think finding a note is hard
The guy in the piano be like " I don't get paid enough for this shit "
Ariana Garcia How did he get inside the Piano?😲
Ariana Garcia lol
😂
@@unicockboy1666 he himself probably didn't.
LOL!!
The pianists time keeping ability is incredible that he can play something totally lacking in rhythm and keep track of where each note should go. That's not easy.
Yeah, I can see how they could get a copyright claim if they re-uploaded Jake Paul's music.
Frank Liao England is my village
Good one
Frank Liao Disney World is my uncle
*HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL*
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7:47 for people just here for the music.
Thanks mate
Thomaszeblob this makes me happy :)
thnx
thank you do much I love you
Thank you
the guy playing the piano looks pissed that he has to play such a horrific fucking peice and I can't stop laughig
Kade 1108 yea
I think he's concentrating very hard. Such a piece can't be easy to play. The predictability and rythmn of usual music pieces make them easier to play. But without any pattern to follow, you have to concentrate very hard to find the right keys and press them in just the right time.
I don't think he's pissed. I think that this would require intense concentration. This would be very difficult to play as it defies all musical convention.
trying to keep it in perfect time must be hell
Kade 1108 tbh I need to like the piece I'm playing or else it has no emotional and I look like a blobfish whilst playing it😂
9:05 And of course, the obligatory cough during performance.
Thats the first thing i noticed bro
*claps inbetween movements*
Coughs during the rests so you dOn'T RuIn ThE MuSiC........
Underrated comment
Thanks a bunch, now I'll be humming this all day.
Haha, best comment I've read in a bit. :)
That would be amazing to watch
Yes, it's very catchy
Tommy Jackman
Seinfeld reference: "Master of the house...🎶"
😆😆
If it comes to playing ugly, I'm the master, and I ain't no mathematician.
SpartanFunnyProject you're not good at grammar also
Jaso Ander you don't have good grammar either*
"Ain't no mathematician"? So you are one? Interesting.
Well, so I ain't a mathematician? how do you say that? (I speak Spanish dude, give me a break).
SpartanFunnyProject To help avoid double negatives, I'd personally try not to use 'ain't' at all. Plus, it sounds more proper without it.
Me: Yo pass the aux cord
Friend: You better not play trash
Me:
*whips*
Chris Patel 😂😂😂
did someone call me
Cupcake Pooper lol❤
lol❤
“What key is it in?”
*ALL OF THEM*
Sight reading that will be very confusing
*Giant Steps flashbacks*
*Jazz sweating intensifies*
That wasn't too bad. Possibly less stressful than randomness, since randomness constantly begins to set up patterns then doesn't follow through.
Humans have trouble creating true randomness, we end up making everything less random but trying to make it "seem" random if you follow that. There would be more patterns, yet still what you're saying is relatively correct, but true randomness would look less random than anything human generated. You're correct, this is more informal than critical, kind of... random.
That's one weird paragraph...
Basically, your perception of randomness is something like 1748452648091373759 - a number with a lot of different digits, no immediate repetition, and no clear pattern. Real randomness looks like this:
1195712432266473
Note that some numbers are 'clumped'. When you shuffle a pack of cards, if you draw three consecutive cards in a row, you might say it was shuffled badly. However, that sequence of cards is just as random as, say, Aclubs 7hearts 3spades. You recognise patterns as not ever occurring randomly, but they happen surprisingly often.
Randomness it's the enemy no. 1 in the creation
That might just drive me over the edge, I get stressed just thinking about it.
I made it 666 likes. You’re welcome.
Normal ppl: Wow, that's just noise
Producers: I can sample that shit!
I might sample it. :P
For real.
sampling a piano... dope af bro
aren't producers normal people then?
Sample that shit and add an 808 bass with shitty lyrics about women with big bums - Trap music 2k16
Now once more, WITH feeling!
8dioproductions 😂
Actually that was my first thought, no joke. If the performer had added some dynamics and expressivity, it wouldve given a completely different effect.
You sound like my choir teacher. 😂😂😂
8dioproductions Don't think, FEEEEEL
So funny. My cat lies on my legs when I listen to music (classical) on my IPad. She tolerated about 4 minutes of this, frantically writhing around. Then she jumped off and headed out of the room, clearly disgusted.
My crush: Oh, a piano, play something beautiful for me.
Me: 8:45
This sounds like when I'm trying to sight read something.
+Kelvin Chau And even after sight reading, you still play like this, because you're playing "The Ping"
+Kelvin Chau me.
+Kelvin Chau Same
True.
+Kelvin Chau for me sight reading is like i do it perfectly than i just mess one rest or so than im like oh fuck were are we and i give up till we start again...
me- hey i wrote a piano piece!
Person- oh cool what key is it in?
Me- yes
Chromatic.
Potato Gaming that's more a scale than a key
My music is not bound to your primitive "keys"
Actually, its in "No"
who cares what it's in...😂😂😂
Me before the video: no music is ugly
After the video after all the skipping to get to the music: mother of me that sounds exactly the way I played when I was two oh those memories I love it.
Ears: you sure there mate
okay, I assume everyone who wrote in the comments "that sounds like me!" probably skipped right to the music. Scott Rickard actually uses the time before the video to explain exactly why that is just not the case, since this piece, while technically sounding random, actually is almost impossible to write. So it doesn't sound like you tapping random keys, it sounds BEYOND you tapping random keys!
You missing out on really interesting information. You should have watched it.
Wow, coulda done this at 2, look! Even the crowd enjoyed it! Hear the clapping? Would a inspired me to do more just like it
9:16 - 9:21 there is twice a minor third (F# - A) once as third in the same register, then immediately after a decima interval of the same two notes.
Yonatan Ron I caught that one too! I hoped I wasn’t the only one.
please speak english XD
Preston Le it is English. Maybe go to the time stamps they put and see what they’re talking about.
@@benstephens34 I know im just not that experienced at music as u guys kinda can play piano but not good
@@pkl-yt what I believe they're trying to say, is that the first time at 9:16, the pianist plays notes that go up a minor third, which if you look at a staff, is one space or line apart with the higher note flatted. (Think G to Bb, or C to Eb) The specific minor third in question is F# to A, then it happens again immediately after, but at a higher interval, it's at a higher pitch, but the notes are the same space apart. You'll notice that they sound very similar, as they are both the same type of chord. Hope this helps!
there you go 7:47
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thank you!
Thank you, good sir!
i wish i saw this comment sooner 👌
mynameis bob THANK YOU
music starts at 7:43
rlly he was talking for that long...
Kid why you copying my comment
Your the real mvp
+Δημητρης Μπεκιαρης No problem. It's my job.
I enjoyed his discussion about mathematics tbh
isn't it funny how he tried to play it with passion? ROFL I died!
Why is that funny?
+Badatstuff because it's "The world's ugliest music" and he plays it passionately. Not that it's a bad thing, but it's just funny.
+FesliyanStudios I thought it was funny too - I wondered if anyone else would even notice...
+Erick Briceño Chávez Haha maybe, but I think he was trying to perform. Either way, super funny to me :)
+FesliyanStudios It's still technically a musical piece so most professional musicians would respect it and the composer by playing at as perfectly as possible. But yeah it's entertaining lol.
what if the WHOLE time he didn’t even bother playing the right notes?
therelatablepianist You would have heard some repetition ...
When a sim is trying to learn the piano skill
When you lie and say you can read music for a gig
Now that's an idea.... :P
Hahahahaha
or a session ...
Don't you just wake up in the morning then say to yourself
"I'm going to make the ugliest music"
Every morning... It's the first and last thought on my mind.
(turns out the actual reverse is true but close enough)
Yeah, and I don't even play the piano, so it's especially wierd.
I bet that's what Taylor Swift does as part of her morning routine.
. YEET
**procedes to play her violin and fail miserably**
it sounds like what my back has felt since the quarantine started
*AND NOW I'VE FOUND MY NEW RINGTONE!!!*
David Hickling i was thinking the same thing
The actual music starts at 7:47 btw
Blue Oak ayyyyyy phandom
Blue Oak Of course it started just as I scrolled down to this comment
had I seen this earlier...
"music" ;-)
Blue Oak thanks
jokes on you i actually liked it
me too
+0 Subscribers I know cuz your mom wants
Same
+McCaptainBlaze just because you liked it doesn't make it 'good' lol
+Madison Healey Yes it does. "Good" is in the ear of the listener, not in the music theory or composer history books. :-)
Kid at store: “Mom I want to get Beethoven!”
Mom: “We have Beethoven at home”
Beethoven at home:
Don't diss Beethoven like that!!!
Damn that's rough 😂
@@Dutch_plan_der_Linde It is I
@@davisatdavis1 Beethoven has a lot of sfs in his pieces though
This guy was so happy that no one noticed when he Made a mistake
QueTal Games wai.. wha?
Come on, what's the mistake?
at the end?
Okidoke , mistake?
guys it’s a joke
The longest most convoluted preface to a drunk guy banging piano keys.
Best comment ever
+thewu1313 Well no, a drunk guy banging piano keys would still have some sort of "pattern" mechanism in the subconscious, he might come back to the same key over and over, or he might just be banging right, left, right, left and that's some kind of repetition in the "random" drunk banging. The talk is specifically about how randomness can NEVER produce this kind of music.
+Sa kak well aren't you fun at parties?
+Sa kak weeeeellll actually....randomness would guarantee that this arrangement would occur once
+VerticalHorizon9 Actually I have board game and discussion evenings. So yes?
Sims 3 piano level 1
So true.
pytox
Ahaha 😂. Great example.
pytox I
pytox lol it does really feel and sound like it
hahahahaha
8:52 start of The Godfather theme
why down there sir you deserve mvp
Still better than a band that isn't in tune
Blaze Nelson It Would Be Even Uglier If All The Notes Were The Same Length (Especially Excluding Ties)
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riight
Charlotte Kim but the sun is eclipsed by the moon
Charlotte Kim 😂
_ DonutMaster56 _ Why Is Everything Capped
Imagine this music playing in an alien world and the aliens there would be jamming to it
Haha
just like dubstep to us
what's wrong with dubstep?
J3LLYF1SH nothing bro
Its a pretty amazing genre tbh
I am particularly a huge dubstep fan
This sounds exactly like when I was a kid and use to just hit random keys on my grandmother's piano. I thought it was majestic xD
i did the exact same thing... and my little cousin does the same thing and says it sounds good.
So, it sounds exactly not like you hitting random keys...
This music is the opposite of random
Good pibts
I mean points
Everyone did my dude 😂😂😂
This is highly structured sound. With regards to his justification for why this would be the world's "ugliest music", there are a lot of underlying assumptions here about how we perceive patterns, how we perceive sound, and how we perceive music that are not quite right. Among other things, we hear direction (up/down) as patterned, and the x3 structure creates quite a few directional patterns, particularly near the beginning of the piece. It's not a surprise that many of the commenters are hearing this as beautiful. The piano itself is sonorous, and the pedaling and dynamic choices of the player bring out musical lines and harmonic elements.
Could be worse.
I could do worse.
Katime same though
Katime i would put this song in a horror game or film, i guarantee that this would be a perfect match for it
As I said at one comment, looks like this one just cares about the distance between the notes N and N+1 at the piano (with N being note currently playing and N+1 being the next note you will play) being always different. To make this even uglier, he could also care about the distance between N and N+2 being always different, also N and N+3, N and N+4 and this goes on.
spaceman00 I have no clue wtf you just said and I'm too lazy to figure it out 😂
AstroKittyKiki Yasss I think he's trying to say that the piece could not allow patterns like (taking all notes as numbers) 1,3,2,6,3 as there is a repeated pattern in that both the 1st and 3rd notes and the 3rd and 5th notes have a relation of going up by 1, and the difference between them is the same (3-1=5-3). Similarly, 1,4,3,7,2,9 would also be not allowed because it goes up by 2 between both the 1st and 3rd notes and the 4th and 6th
I'm sorry. A piano will always sound beautiful to me. This only sounds like a confused piano.
lmao i love ur comment
Ali Conradie okay this has to be the best comment I ever read . *Tips hat*
Like.. A piano that fell down the stairs and broke it's strings.
Aren't we all confused pianos in the great scheme of things?
Imagine having a confused piano as a best friend.
*walks onto the stage* let me try honey
idgi
TH-cam Nutzer lol
*walks onto stage with Clarinet* im gonna win this
😂let me join you
TH-cam Nutzer lol I bet he’s been practicing this for weeks, yet nobody would know if he went wrong lol
The thing is, once you get into atonal music, the thing that most people notice are pitch relations and octave relations.
There are certain patterns repeated, especially in the beginning, where those relationships hold true and are more important than actual pitch. The piece has a sort of pattern where this is true.
They should have taking into account music theory
Yet he plays it so passionately!
I was wondering why all the notes are played loud though, why couldn't he apply the Golomb ruler he used to get pattern-free note durations to also get pattern-free dynamic nuances?
@@CosmicTeapot whole thing was in forté?
@@isodo2452 Either I know.I'm not literally asking why everything was played loudly, I'm questioning why they set everything to be played in forte in the piece.
@@CosmicTeapot a destroyer's sonar has only one dynamic, organ shatteringly forte...
@@Tuton25 trumpets have that down pretty well
It repeatedly fails to be predictable.
I spotted the pattern, the anti-pattern. Is nothing included in something?
Roescoe yes, nothing is technically something, while something couldn't be nothing
Paradox
The only correct prediction is that there are no correct predictions.
Sounds pretty predictable.
still better than gucci gang
I died
so damn true
It also has a lot less repetition.
I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH U-
amen
I actually did manage to locate a bit of repetition. At 9:16, you will hear a minor 3rd interval (Gb to A, if I'm not mistaken). Immediately following that you will hear a Gb in the higher octave followed by the A located a minor 10th above it. Not technically repetition in the strictest sense, but (musically) the effect is that you hear the same Gb to A minor 3rd interval twice in a row.
Honestly, the lack of repetition doesn't make it ugly.
Sure, it creates an off-kilter feel as your brain tries to grab onto a pattern that isn't there, but that just gives it a creepy, haunting vibe that would fit in with a horror movie.
+Just A Dude It's not BAD. It's sounds awful. I find myself a very sensitive person so if you'd ask my opinion about that music I'd say It would gave me a headache. And it really did. It's almost as awful as water dropping in the kitchen in the middle of the night. I hate all those sounds that things make because people somehow can't create unrepeted stuff.
Two days ago I was in pain almost the whole day so he said right: this music feels literally like pain. It hits you, it goes up and gown and makes you lose control over your feelings, and your brain is like wtf and you try to find a pattern (I do this when i'm in pain) and you can't and it annoys you so freaking much you can't bear it anymore. That's how I felt.
+Дарья Минеева Exactly. This music is too smart for human brain to bare, and that is why it sounds horrible. As he said, it could be made only by mathematics so if you are not mathematician and even if you are you cant propably understand it.
True, interesting point I guess that's what makes this kind of music suitable for horrors. Unknown, no order or sense... No logic. Like how we find the dark creepy, we can't get our bearings
Yeah, if i'll make a film about traveling in the hell, that will be a pretty good choice of background music.
+韩光 Try Megadeth Into the lungs of hell, Slayer South of heaven or Dream Theater In the presence of enemies, if you want good music for hell soundtrack
My cat seems to quite enjoy it.
is your cat's name Justin Bieber?
Myo Pyae Sone HAHAHAHA
No its lady gaga....you're such an imbecile.
Michael Payne I just showed it to my cat and he fell asleep to it
Oh wow
Man, when dat beat dropped I was like "whoa!".
Ikr? It lined perfectly with the build-up.
The bassline really got it well with the drumpattern. And the smooth beat!
i cant find it. where?
"First Pattern-Free sonata"
Sonata form inherently involves repetition.
I think "free sonata" in itself means free of repetition.
THANK YOU.
Look up Boulez' 2nd Piano Sonata, 'cause it inherently tries to destroy any semblance of "sonata form;" p cool tbh
That pianist is probably like, "WTH did I agree to do this... this goes against everything I stand for, quite possibly the most opposite of it"
My thoughts exactly. :D
HE was JAMMING those keys like they did something to him and the look on his face was like what am i doing.....
Without a pattern of some kind, even an expert piano player struggles to play this weird tune...
PlasmaMongoose it is true. we are minds of repetition and patterns, after all
Did you see him struggling? I didn't.
It's like my friends that screw around with my piano keys when they can't play, just evolved into hideous pranksters.
Xyluss Nelms Probably because he practised it a fuck-tonne because this piece is impossible to play. Do you think this was the first time he had played it?
TheNikolaki8 Well, I guess he just... repeated it enough times then ;)
if my life was a song it would be this one
Perfectly repetition-free? I'd like that life...
better than doing the same depressing shit every day
Ireth Vespie hahaha
Bradly Fray breathing, heartbeats, etc are repetition. a repetition fre life couldnt last for more than one breath or heartbeat or any other repeating bodily function
IT IS a song. By Billy Joel. Pretty cool too.
Honestly, i kinda like it. It feels like there's something chaotic, anxious yet at the same time feels peaceful and orderly. And there's this sense of twistedness, darkness and beauty to it. And the sudden abruptness of the last note before stopping feels like how death is.
Think the same!
100% agreed. It doesn't sound bad to me. In fact I think it sounds fairly good!
It gives me dark, eerie forest at night in a heavy mist/drizzle vibes
Grade A horror/ psychological thriller music
Because you're delusional and religious
7:49 is when they play it.
Nicholas Bloxxer doing God's work
MVP
Nicholas Bloxxer thank you extremely much
0:00 Is when the video starts.
Nicholas Bloxxer
Thank you xD
At least you can't tell if he missed a note or not!😂
Edit: wow! Didn’t think that this would get that many likes lol.
Gabriella Flores yes they can they can see the note sheet
A Guy true
Ikr?
+Gabriella Flores If it ends up sounding good at any point, he missed a note.
Top One: I'd give you a medal for this comment hahahaha
Who else thought it would just be slamming the keys?
Lisa Smith "Repetition!"😑🤔😲
9:16 - 9:21 included a split minor chord, so there is harmony even in the ugliest music! 😇
👍I couldn't name it but I felt the beauty of that part. It was like "Wait a minute! That was nice!"
The music starts at 7:48
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Would fit amazingly in a n psycho horror movie, sounds nice
I was thinking the same thing.
lol isn't it crazy how this piece is the most random shit ever yet we can still find something to attribute it to? xD
dezzick398 it's not random, that's the point of the video.
stephane Boeltjes he is talking about the composition
+dezzick398
Well, I mean it is kinda scary if you think about it...
Music, something highly emotional, is turned into something coldly calculated. I feel like this would be a pretty smart choice for a musical leitmotiv of a psychopath who kills for opportunistic reasons and has no mercy.
Plus, the thing sounds pretty disturbing...
I am both a music lover and a maths lover. I didn't know what to say when I was hearing the music... And now, three letters come out of my mind. That's O-M-G.
You know you've been fed too much Schoenberg and Stockhausen when you find yourself thinking: this is weirdly beautiful..
I find myself starting to listen more to the timbre of the piano, which is kind of gorgeous. It's probably either
that, or I have the strangest musical taste on the planet.
Come to think of it, it's kind of peaceful. Lots of silence between tones. That might be part of it too.
Bart de Jong why do I relate
I have never listened to Schoenberg or Stockhausen (or at least I don't remember doing so), I heard some avantgarde music and hated it, but this was really nice mostly...
Same. I think they could have made it uglier if they had sped up the tempo and changed the timbre to something more muddled like a tuba. Random-sounding notes work surprisingly well when played slowly and with a pleasing timbre, like a piano or cello. That's why I like Webern's string music but can't stand his vocal "cantatas".
Nobody would even notice if he fucked it up halfway through.
LOL ikr
Joseph Smith they would, it would sound nice.
+Yeetesh Pulstya LOL
Also someone with absolute hearing and good memorie will. If one note is played twice he/she would hear this immediately (I wouldn't though 😜)
at 8:10 and other places i hear an octaves, but it does not necessarily convey any pattern at all.
The only way to 'err ' would be to create a pattern. However, the ear is a pattern-seeking organ and it will probably find a hidden design anyway. Mine, for example, imagines these pitches harmonized, thereby giving them pattern within tonality, and making them more significant, thereby more memorable.
I have no clue why, but the song sounds like a drunk version of Lavender Town to me. I think it's just the higher notes though
it sounds like a limbo
Da Dragon Durp I also agree. In fact, it’s so similar that I’m beginning to wonder whether this composer wrote the famous ear cancer Pokémon music
Lmao
no.... lavender town is actually beautiful on piano
I thought you were talking about lavender town HAUNTING, by solkreig.
8:44 it looks like his shadow is sitting next to him
random music with random rhythms must be a pain in the ass to read
O'HALLORAN Might be why he looked so displeased
Yeah that prob be why he be mad
its not random its pattern-free
randomness still has patterns
There is no need to follow the musical score. Who could tell if you played a note wrong? I could sit there and play it with my feet and still get applause.
lol
After he finished the piano guy was just like
Aaaaaand that's a wrap!
An my mommy said I couldn't play well.....
HA!!!
_end my suffering_
Haha
The funniest thing about it is that he actually played that piece perfectly. And it would extremely hard to do so due to the lack of any sort of pattern.
7:48 if you just want to hear the music.
Thank you.
Where were you!?😥😣
I couldn't find you so I had to skip to find the damn music 😥
heh
Thank you though😁
Thank you sooooo much.
+The Realistic Nihilist thanks
Thank you.
I mean, you could do uglier. That piece is still subject to the timbre of the piano and the relationships of 12 tone equal temperament.
Could always try microtonality.
This. Also they only cared about the distance (at the piano) between an Note X at music score and an note X+1 at music score always being different. They didnt cared about the distance between note X and note X+2 being different and X+3........
As some example a song that start with those piano keys in order 9|3|7|5|....., the distance between 9 and 3 is 6 notes, the distance between 3 and 7 is 4 notes, the distance between 7 and 5 is 2 notes. But, the distance between 9 and 7 is two notes apart, the same distance between 3 and 5. So when you compare an note N (as some example the note 9) with a note at position N +2 at music score (at this case is note 7), you can have situations where the distance between the note N and note N +2 at other areas of music sheet are the same.
I thought they were gonna play sweatshirt by Jacob sartorious
omg that's perfect 😂😂
+Mitchell Slaughter why the derogatory statement? we all know jacobs music is epitome of crap and his fanbase is shit infested
darude - sandstorm
Natalie Moreno same here
Natalie Moreno fuck you jacob is a god
I don't know what he's smoking...this is beautiful. It's dark and foreboding, like the killer is lurking around the next corner...then the phone rings and the power goes out.
nychold yes but it's not a beautiful piece of music
nychold ya um I have no clue what u just said but if it means that music was horrible, you are correct
I absolutely disagree that this is the "ugliest music possible". I find it very odd that this piece was written so that pianist only plays one note at a time. As a professional musician and appreciator of many genres of music, the piece honestly didn't seem to be anything extraordinarily "ugly", as there are many pieces that employ twelve-tone serialism ... and man, (this is a matter of personal opinion, of course) I've heard some contemporary jazz that sounds WAY worse than this, specifically BECAUSE more than one note--in fact, multiple dissonant chords--are played simultaneously. I generally am not a fan of atonal music and this piece fits that bill, so while I agree that this piece certainly is not "beautiful", I find it to be far from the "ugliest music possible". The following are the only aspects potentially "unique" to this piece: the piece demonstrates twelve-tone serialism employing ALL octaves; there is no "repetition", (though not "repetition", as there is no repeating phrase per se, the ascending octaves of D should be noted as well as the fact that a low A precedes the three ascending octaves of D an a high A is played right after the final of these three D's; listen to 8:05 - 8:11); only one note is played at a time [which, to me, makes it practically impossible for this piece to be the "ugliest" piece ever composed... overlapping dissonant chords creates much uglier #cacophony].
If this comment doesn't make much sense to you, I should note that I teach online music theory lessons, just FYI: www.summersweesingh.com/contact #summersweesingh :) #twelvetoneserialism #twelvetonerow #musictheorylessons #chromaticscale #musictheory #repetition #tedx #science #dissonance #scottrickard
"Mathematics produces the least catchy music possible " just isn't going to bring in the same amount of views.
+Leviathan268 ...because people give Ted talks for the number of TH-cam views they'd get? Ah, I'd really hope not :/ I think he needed to do a little more research either way; twelve tone serialism isn't anything new.
I don't think you really got why it is considered "the world's ugliest music"... it is because, what he said at the beginning of what makes the masterful pieces of music beautiful, is its repetition; thats why a pattern-free song would be at the complete opposite end of the spectrum, making it in the world's ugliest music, if seen from the repetition point of view.
+Pablo Larios I watched the same video as you and I'm telling you that there already exists A TON of music (much of contemporary jazz) without any pattern and much of it sounds way more dissonant and cacophonous than this piece BECAUSE more than one note is played simultaneously--for something to even be dissonant it has to be dissonant in relation to something else, you can't have that when playing one note at a time. He shouldn't have used a superlative as a title, I understand what he was going for but again, he should have done more research. What he produced has more or less already been done by multiple composers.
+Dyl Pikkle As I already replied to another person, there already has been music composed before this Ted talk was given (decades ago) by composers who purposely wrote without a pattern. It is mathematically ugly, yes, but not the ugliest. A superlative should not be used because it simply isn't true. Again, ugly is a matter of opinion as I said in my initial statement; so feel free to disagree, I'm not offended. I'm just telling you what many other musicians find to be "ugly" includes dissonance and this piece has none of that.
This is a horrible name for a wonderful talk.
Working on the internet, I refused to click on this till I was compelled by my friend, and am SO happy I did.
I'd still choose this over Justin Bieber any day
Oh yeah
@K9hobo productions oh god no XD
Hey! I have already played this before when I was 5!
Dude, Orchestras should be flocking to your door to hire you.
YoU'rE LyInG!
Lol! That's funny!
Drop a cat on the keys of a piano and you'll get the same results. Still beautiful.
Ironically, that is the opposite of what is intended.
Also, I've done it.
My old music class has an inside joke where you just slam your hand down on the piano and it's G7.
Every jazz musician: WTF he's talking about ?
This is a great presentation. However, as a pianist, I note one pattern consistently performed throughout the piece. Each new sound we hear is a single note --- not chords, nothing happening at once, or even overlapped at all, except incidentally. So, this music doesn't go far enough if it wants to avoid repetition. The texture of the piece is comprised of the repetition of one note at a time.
y'all they wrote a music piece about me
omg same tho
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Jacob Sartorious can do worse.
Paul Leal this was ugliest music BEFORE he was a thing
I know it's a joke, but for real his songs can be sung better by someone else so the SONGS aren't worse than the piece shown in this video. Only the singer is terrible (jacob)
Asto Done triggered much??
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finally,an alarm that will wake me up
If the time signature isn't changing then there's your repetition
Hahaha well... you could write exactly the same thing changing the time signature... so maybe the important thing here is the hearing, not the sheet xD in that case there are lots of repetitions, like the key, the clef, even the instrument...
So basically this piece has succeeded in composition mostly but lacks performative elements
Let's just go with it xD it's an awesome video, anyway.
Time is always moving on; history cannot be repeated.
***** Damn son that was weak af
rip piano guys career
I dunno if anything its massively impressive that he could perform a totally patternless piece to any capacity at all since our understand of music revolves around pattern.
Float Exactly. I'm a piano player (not professional hey) and you rely on patterns a LOT to be able to play a piece : repetitions, some repeated finger-to-this-key combination... All of it is supposed to be logical, and pattern-ful
Actually, this just improves his musical career. There are both students and lecturers at my old college (Royal College or Music....) that would lap this up as music in it's purest form! He could literally have a career just performing this piece if he wanted!
I personally don't get that, but then, I've never enjoyed that modern almost random style of classical music and composers such as Sheornberg and Boulez hold no interest for me what so ever.
The only repetition was me banging my head on my desk while Listening to this. Thankfully short.
This is a genre of music we like to call *JAZZ*
Jazz ROASTED! 😂
You seem to never have heard Jazz.
ya like jazz??????
_Jazz music stops_
It sounds nothing like Jazz. What it sounds like is a three year old thumping the keys.