Haydenshapes "The Raven" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 111
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In this episode I put "The Raven" by Haydenshapes through the paces. Enjoy!!!
Board Dimensions:
Stock 5'8" x 18 3/4 x 2 1/4 (25.2L)
My Height: 5'9"
My Weight: 160 lbs
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I just ordered the Raven today on Sale for $495 USD , under $600 USD shipped to my door and they shipped it out same day - so stoked to see this video up. I got the same 5'8 PU as you , didn't even realize until I watched the video so now I am extra stoked to try it!
Super fun board game
Adding the fourth fin for smaller days is a really good idea.
Great to see the centre fins on thrusters becoming smaller, a good combination of twin plus trailer speed and theuster stability
Board looks great!
Your surfing’s smooth as ever, bet the coaching series helps keep you tuned up as well just in revisiting technique. 🤙
Thanks for all the reviews keep them coming please, ordered a custom Pyzalien 2 cause of you and will be doing an average level surfers review of it 🤣🤷.
Think of doing a larger guy fin? 190lb+
Also the Haydens have been very tempting!
Cheers... my Carver drills are helping me too. I am working on a bigger guy Thruster set.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I’m The Tonga guy we spoke over the phone. Always excited when your video drops!! I really liked your grom Rook 15 vid, cool to see kids get shoutouts. 🤙
Throwing huge buckets... Effortlessly!!! Those fins are sick!!! Great review!!!
Was nice to surf real time next to you last week man .. hope U remember me ( the surfer from Tel Aviv that rides the untitled ) U surf better in reality than in the videos . Keep doing what u doin man 🙌🏽❤️
Thanks Noel, loved also the comparison between the Raven, Holy Grail & Untitled v.2! I am just wondering which out of those three you give an intermediate, progressing beginner intermediate coming from it’s Hypto krypto to hand? Is there something like a progression through the boards you can envision?
Thank You For The twin tab Option On Your signature Fin. Will Check them out, Been Rolling D.Reynolds "Black Cats" For awhile Now.
Hi Noel Awesome review as always. In similar type waves in 3-6ft, which do you felt performed better between this and the Pyzalien 2.
P2 Seems to a bit faster down the line and surfs more vertical in the pocket. The Raven carves better.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Terrific Noel thanks for the reply.
Keep up the fantastic reviews.
🤙🤙🤙💥
Great review again Noel,
Is there any chance of your reviewing any Album boards? I'd love to see what you think of the Twinsman!
No sorry... Matt Parker sees no value in what we do.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Wha? Kinda awkward! That’s a shame... :(
I love the holy grail colors, black rails with thick black middle stripe, looks cool and even makes your surfing look cool. That board just looks nice.
HG is mental for sure. Cheers for the kind words
Hey Noel, ive had a few of these as well and i too think its a great carver, and better for a point break style of wave. However, both Ravens i had the tails cracked within about the first dozen surfs. I think i can see yours has too?
Bummer... sorry to hear that your tail cracked. Yes, my tail cracked too.... however every board that I review that does not have Carbon Tail On the toe side cracks on me. The tail on the toe side cannot handle the pressure on my bottom turns so it cracks open. I told The folks at Haydenshapes that every board needs Carbon on the tail for this very reason..... except for Future Flex. It already has the Carbon on the rails by design.
Another thing to remember... not every surfer will crack the tail like we did.... most of my friends that are intermediate surfers will never crack the rail from turns.
Where on the tail did it crack?
Woulda been sick if you put dion agius octopus pad on it. Though it doesn't really have much of an arch which I know you like
Hey mate, any chance of a rocket redux review? maybe in carbon wrap? love your vids
I hope so.... ordered a couple to review a few months ago. COVID has everything messed up.
I am a Korean fan. I'm enjoying your video. I'm currently riding pyzel slap2. Which is better, pyzelian2 or raven? I'm riding a little wave
Would it be possible for you to do a Tomo Evo review?
I hope so... I’ve been trying to get the Evo for review for 3+ years now from Firewire. Still waiting for boards
I really like your fin concept. I'm going to have to try them. Hopefully you will ship to the UK
Absolutely..., we are shipping world wide.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 great to hear
Your surfing looked smooth on this board Noel 👌🏽
Thank you so much for these reviews! Really detailed and sharp to explain every step and setting of the surfboard!
I'm 5'5", 343 lbs, and my wife keeps calling me "jelly tits". Will this board work for me in a 5'8"?
You riding that one extra good!
Hi Noel, I currently have the LSD Noa pro and love it and these boards seem to be very similar, could you point out the differences between the way these two surf?
The Raven likes to carve more…. The Noa likes to carve and pivot. I remember getting on the Raven and just doing big carves and cutbacks. The Raven can surf top to bottom too but it really likes carving.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 alrighty sounds good thanks for that 👍 appreciate the time for the answer
Hi Noel, this question may seem a bit broad but for improving my surfing and work on my technique what board would you take ? A more stable more volume than usual so you have time to think on your feet position, where you look etc...
I wonder if I should up my volume to allow myself to focus better on my technique.
Really depends on the wave. If you surfing fast waves it might be tough turn quickly or getting down the line fast if your board is hard to move quickly.
It makes sense to go up a bit in volume if your surfing a slower wave
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Yep that make sense. Some of the spot are fast with a wedge and some are fat and slow. I ll grab a groveler to mix it ! Thanks mate.
Can’t decide if I want this board or the js monsta box. Surfing most HB these days any criticism helps me. I’m a intermediate surfer who’s comfortable in surfing up to 7ish ft.
how would it compare to the driver 2.0 you looked really good on the board
The Raven will carve more and offer better traction off the bottom. The Driver 2.0 is faster and goes better in 2-4’ surf. However when your surfing 4-6’+ the Raven will our perform the Driver 2.0 in the pocket due to it offering more hold or traction.
As a general rule Noel would you say that the more V a board has between the fins the more pivotal and vertical it will become and to get a board that carves more in good condition shoulder high plus waves the V is always taken out and left with concave throughout the entire surfboard?
Good question... boards that I’ve ridden like the DHD 3DV that has a good amount of V makes it extremely easy to get the board to roll over on rail and carve or get it vertical. However.... It took me some time to get the hang of surfing the 3DV because it wanted to get on rail when I didn’t want it to. If I was trying to gain speed down the line... it would try to get on rail when I want the board to be in neutral.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 so why do you think the 3dv worked against you in this way Noel.was it the type of rail the board has or because it may have more V in it than most boards.?
@@shawnweston4741 Maybe a little of both... I have not ridden a board like the 3DV since. Some of the boards I’ve tested have V in the tail but not nearly as much as the 3DV in the HPSB package.
also curious how the raven goes as appose to the Noa Deane model as they look similar. and whitch one you prefered?
Both boards are solid... the Raven likes to carve more and the Noa surfs a bit more vertical
This board looks amazing to surf
Hi Noel, any plans to review the fw glazer?
I ordered boards months ago... doesn’t look like FW is sending a Glazer for review. Sorry
I don’t know if it is just your surfing, but I would like to see more 12 o’clock out of this board!
The Raven can surf vertical but it’s really designed for carving. I even spoke to Hayden about this topic on the Raven and he said…. It’s design is more about big carves.
Noel just looking at that outline.can you compare this in any way to the channel islands bunny chow?
Bunny Chow has its wide point back from center and it pivots better compared to the Raven. The Raven carves better and the Bunny Chow surfs the pocket better going vertical.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel.thats pretty good feedback.
Hi Noel,
What's your thoughts on the raven vs the HS darkside or the pyzel shadow?
The Raven carves better than the two other boards. I highly recommend the Phantom for 3-7’ surf. It’s fast and easy to surf with excellent glide and paddles insane.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 already tried a Phantom after watching your review thanks, which was bang on! Looking to try something new but for same/similar wave range 3-7+ plenty to choose from 😅 maybe time to try CI Fever
Hey Noel what would you recommend for 1-4ft surf? Neckbeard 2 or fishbeard?
If you want high performance surfing with excellent pivot then go NB2. If you want a high performance twin fin then go FB. If I had to choose one I would go FB.... twin fins are insane. If you choose the FB you gotta get a set of my HP Keels.... next level performance surfing in Twin Fin boards. Here is a link to check them out.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins
Would you say the fins are speed controlling, balanced, or generating based on construction?
My fin construction is Fiberglass with epoxy resin. According to Futures Ride number my fins would be more speed controlling due to their stiffness. However... their design with the Large base and Medium fin depth make them speed generating with tons of drive when you put them on rail. Our Momentum Series fins are my interpretation of Fast and Loose with Maximum Drive.
What shortboard have you reviewed that has deep channels? Spider Murphy from South Africa is making his Missile model with really deep channels/concaves. Seems to work well in warm surf off Durban.
Spyder Fireball Fish. Check out the review
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I had a look. The board I am thinking of had really significant concaves rather than channels. Deep double concave.
@@MoorayWK Check our the Bonzer /CI boards.
Im sorry to do this.but i can ask what board u like better in 2_5fit.nb2 or raven?
Raven offers better traction off the bottom and through big carves. The NB2 is way faster down line and grovels better in 1-3’ surf. I like the NB2 better in 1-4’ surf and I like the Raven better in 3-6’+.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 o.k.thx .for the honest answer swallow tail is the best.
Hi Noel,
Would you recommend the fcs2 AM PC carver fins for wide tail grovelers like the Al Merrick mini?
They might go ok in Grovelers but the wider boards can sometimes be a bit tight so a neutral template or Pivot template works better.
Thanks!
...and about the size,I am 6’0 and 155 intermediate level weekends surfer.Do you think that the 5’5 mini is too small for my height?
My regular Shortboard is 6’0 and 28.6L
Thanks in advance
@@yosi3750 A good liter range for your HPSB’s and daily drivers is 29-31L
Surf n Show Reviews thank you so much for your comments!
Buckets! On this board... buckets... with those fins... yeeewwwwww
Do you plan to review the Firewire Twice Baked? That would be a sick groveler board review! 🙏🏾
No sorry.... I will be reviewing the Dominator 2.0 by FW and Dan Mann.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 oh awesome! cant wait to see
that!
Your carves were wsl level on that board!
any chance you review a sub-driver 2.0?
Yes... still waiting for boards
Can you do a sub driver 2.0 review that’s be sick
Yes... still waiting for boards
where can I buy or see your FCS model?
You can see my fins in Two Tab here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-thruster-rakes
How's are the boards 5'8" and you're 5'9" and the boards look at least 2" taller that you? Just wonderin or am I missing something?
The boards are on stands.
didnt look like it wanted to come up to 12 on your backhand wiggoly salas, looks fun though!
Greaaat education.... Thxxxx...
Noel you need to live in Bali for a couple of months and totally rip it up 🤙, oh yeah and still do your reviews from there 👌😂
Sounds good to me. We hope to travel a little soon to do some reviews.
3:55 might be the reason i get this board
would this work well in barrels
Yes... I would push it in 3-6’ hollow surf. If it’s bigger than 6’ surf then go for the Dark Side... it has a bit more rocker.
Yeww 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Raven vs driver 2.0 plss
Ya Hayden needs to do a lil something different when describing every model as "3-6 all conditions" lol
I wouldn’t expect honesty from a company that did a cash grab deal with global surf industries. Lots of people paid good money for a junk board. Way better boards from shapers with integrity that want to get a good board under your feet.
@@mc-cb3tx care to elaborate on this?
Ordered a stock board from Hayden in July and still wasn't ready by end of October. They called me today, the board was totally wrong due to a "data entry error" and I now have to wait another 4 weeks for a remake. Offered me a pad as a soother. I'm getting my money back.
@@mc-cb3tx i got an untitled 2 without realising if was from thailand. goes amazing... I am with you on supporting local manufacturing job, but as a product the thing is really well made they have it dialled in.
@@mc-cb3tx I have three different HS in future flex and those “junk boards” are still in solid condition after three plus years
hs raven or the lsd noa swallow?
Both are fun.... I like the Noa a little better vertical and the Raven carves better.
Thanks for the feedback!! Im trying to choose a new surfboard and I’ve been watching many of your reviews but I still have no idea which one to get
@@surfnshowreviews7777 can you help me ?
Would you consider reviewing their hypto krypto? I know the board has been out there for a while, but there are a lot of claims online about it being one of the best one board quivers. I’d love your take on it. Thanks for all the incredible content!
Noel said he will be within a month.
Yes!!! I am working on the Hypto Krypto review now.
How much do your gonna cost Noel?
I honk your asking about how much my fins cost??? Here is the link to our site. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins
Sorry auto text is a bitch 😂. Yes the cost of your fins. 👍