Haydenshapes "Untitled" Surfboard review by Noel Salas Ep. 37
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- The Untitled by Haydenshapes is very versatile and user friendly. This model is a great daily driver and it has a great range for surf in 1-6' surf.
In this review I have the Untitled in two different constructions, PE and Future Flex. Testing boards in two different constructions makes it easier to see how a construction looks under my feet. The footage also helps me to articulate what I am feeling so I can learn more about the surfboard and the construction it's made of.
The PE stands for Polyurethane Foam and Epoxy resin. I ordered the PE a little to thick making it tough for me to transition from rail to rail quickly. The DIMS are 5'7 x 19 x 2 3/8... Volume 27.14. However I did have fun on it and caught a couple of good waves.
The Future Flex board came out perfect at 5'7" x 18 7/8 x 2 5/16 roughly 26.5 liters. This board is so fast down the line and really quick and snappy in transitions from rail to rail. The FF parabolic carbon fiber frame is very innovative and I go into detail how it works and feels under my feet.
The "Untitled" by Haydenshapes is agreat board and I highly recommend it in the Future Flex Technology as a daily driver. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Who thinks Noel should be next on stab in the dark ? Haha he'd be awesome 👍👍
I love the Stab in the Dark project!!!
Heck yeah !!
Little late to this, but yes 100% agree. Lets get a petition going :)
This board is insane! So fast and loose it's like an out of control speed demon. The front end generates tons of speed, but the pulled in tail with good rocker maintains control and pivots. Maybe best board design I've ever owned. Deserves more hype imho.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention Noel!
Oh and BTW your reviews are getting better because they're more specific and you cover the exact topics that questions arise from. Good Job! Cheeers!!!!!
Yewwww!!! Thank you.....
Thanks for adding the nose and tail dims. Nice review!
My pleasure... thanks for the suggestion!
Top notch review, Noel!!
gulfsurfco Yew!!!🙏
Okay so today was the test day for the Untitled. The board was so fun it had that get up and go right out the gate because of that deep single concave. I was told that this board would handle the lower end of the wave spectrum while the Holy Grail handled the top end. I took this board out in heavy offshore winds from 10 to 15 mph to see how it would handle texture and mush. The board never chattered once (my chest chattered more than the board did). My first impressions were great, in crappy conditions, which tells me it will prevail in much better conditions like the Holy Grail. I was worried that the board would compete with the Holy Grail in terms of performance but it didn’t, the untitled stood in a class of its own. ( don’t get it twisted) The HG is an amazing board, one of the best daily drivers that I have ever ridden, hands down. The problem for me was 2 things. A. The HG didn’t start to show all of its potential until the wave got chest high or better and even then the board needed push for the back third of the board to really come alive. My problem were those big days that you either needed plenty of foam or a lower rocker to get you going. I have to say that the HG let me down on a big day at Blacks were it was crucial to get in early, despite the flatter entry rocker of the HG. I feel confident that the untitled will fill that gap with that snappy pulled in swallow tail complimented by that wing where a hip or bump would typically go. I took the untitled out in head high sluggish waves with a pair of Ando fins and the board was super impressive. I could feel the board springing me up on my decompressions and hauling ass on my compression loading up and shooting me vertical in the most critical part of the wave. It’s too early to say much more but I have to say that I’m very optimistic as Noel was in trying it in bigger waves. Furthermore, I do agree that FireWire is leading the way in technology and construction, while CI is the gold standard in solid templates that work but don’t sleep on HS. In my opinion they are leading the industry in flex and performance with their design core strategy. Bet that up. This is lil Migz signing off for now.
Miguel Marquina Thanks for the breakdown!
This board is sick, I think I found a good set with the Untitled for the smaller mushy stuff, the Holy Grail for everything in between. When I look down the contours, the rails look like flaps because of the deep single. This board feels like the sampler on acid!!!!! 😍
Miguel Marquina Sick... thanks for commenting and I am so pumped you found a couple epic sleds!
A review on the love buzz would be awesome bro and good job on these reviews I saw your review on the holy grail and Teo days later I bought one and by far one of my favorite boards
ernsto polanco The HG is So Sick!!! The Live Buzz looks good to me too. I think it’s more of a daily Driver. I have a few friends that have one and they swear by it. Not sure what Haydenshapes board will be next....
By far the best haydenshapes daily driver they have. Its got more volume then the love buzz comparing the two. It does not have the sluggish feeling the love buzz has under 3 foot. It can grovel and also be surfed in solid stuff...better than the white noiz which has fat rails. Noel is ripping on this..i reckon your turns have a lot of whip especially on your backhand. Only boards i like better you surfed was the merrick black/white and the grail...great review mate👍
My favorite surfing of his is on the White Noiz. White Noiz looks and surfs beautifully, as long as with fins which allow it to surf smooth.
This board looks so freaking good under your feet. Some mental turns
colby ogata Cheers!!! This board is pretty sick. Great daily driver for sure.
Noel your gonna love it when the waves get chest to head plus . I have the Hayden its a funky board but a fun board .. It rips when the waves are big so be ready for it u might fall off the first time lol .. The only problem I've had is them steep take offs board just nose dives into the face so just get the board side ways and off u go .. Thought I would let u know just in case . if I could change one thing on these boards is give it more nose rocker
Thanks for the heads up and I am stoked to hear that this board goes good in the bigger stuff too. I knew it would because it feels great off the bottom. Cheers!!!
Looking forward to the Holy Grail review Noel👌
Just got the untitled per this review. I has a hard time making up my mind but watched this review and vids of Nate destroying. I have been riding fishes for a while so the pointy nose in front took some reaquainting time. Also the feel of the flat deck was scary at first. Dont always like tail pads but for me on a flat deck a total must. Plus gobs of wax up front.
Large John John tekflex fins.
This board is fast. I know you said you would have liked to try this in bigger surf. I think I rode it in legit blacks and oceanside well overhead and shallow doubke ups. Gets over flat spots as expected but comes to life in drilling barrels at low tide. Fast, loose, can release fins when desired but holds in really good when theres power. Favorite board so far, by far. I was shocked. Thanks dude!
IzandEva Inmyheart Yewww!! Stoked your shredding that board. Thanks for posting too!
Another solid one, thanks
sick review looks like a mental board on the way to purchase one but the stock literage is not quite right. what would you recomend going slighlty up in volume or slightly down? cheers
So will u say it is a good board?
For good prformence on medium sized Waves? And the ff which volume u recommend comparing it to other boards
Bought this board in a 6'0'' as I was about 200 lbs. I surf primarily Huntington Pier and trestles area. Rode it with the AMT 2 Futures. It was fun, but didn't quite have the drive I wanted...maybe because of the higher volume. I swapped in my AMT twin +1 set up and this board absolutely changed into a rocket ship. Tons of down the line drive with plenty of hold. I beat every section. It turns quickly and releases really well for it's size...even after I've dropped a few lbs. At my current weight, it's too big, but I still can't get off this thing and have put my CI Rocket 9 back in the bag. Awesome reviews. Love your channel, Noel.
JGScottisyourfather Great post!!! Thanks for sharing with our community
JGScottisyourfather Good info about the fins. What size did you use in the twin plus 1 set up? I am similar weight (190lb) riding a 5'10 and would like a little more speed/drive in the turns.
@@goog646 I am using the large. I love 'em
@@JGScottisyourfather Thanks so much for your reply. Are they large Twin Fins? Or just two large fins from a thruster set?
@@goog646 It's the Futures AMT twin +1 set up. 2 large twin fins w/ a tiny trailer. Check it out on the Futures website. Heading to costa Rica tomorrow and can't wait to ride it there...along with my CI Rocket 9
I heard this board is sick with that two plus one set up
Hey what’s up Noel, maybe you can help me with a question I’m super interested in the untitled and in the love buzz but I have no idea which to buy.... I’m looking for something I can really enjoy on smaller days but also push it to 5+.... I really like the love buzz outline but I’m scared it won’t hold in the bigger surf.... what do you think
One of the best most versatile boards I've had, if not the best.
What length/volume do you consider to be the sweet spot for this board? 2+1 or Twin? thanks Rick
@@RaulEdu33 I tried a 2 + 1 on mine but it was too loose,
@@chrisathan4293 nice, i just got Futures AM2 honeycomb thruster set. The center fin is actually a bit smaller like a medium fin. They feel perfecto on my 6' Untitled 2
@@RaulEdu33 cool, you should look up this vid and other videos forms Noel’s fin recommendations
I might try a set up that has a tad smaller Center fin
Hi Noel, I've purchased the "untitled" and I really like how the board works for you,- and it really works well in that mid 2-4 foot conditions. I've got two questions - I've moved up in volume to the 5'9 30.1 litres - from 27 litres, I'm 165pounds 5'11 how can I tell if it's too much volume, I'm an intermediate surfer? And the second one is you ride large fins most frequently - I've only ridden medium - will I get the drive I'm after? Ps looking forward to the 2018 board reviews.
You need more subs you deserve them
Also u should check out the tropical Brasil Brand one of the best pu I have ever had.
Love this review Noel, i am currently tossing up whether to try this HS Untitled in future flex, or the Rusty Heckler, both boards look super fun so i am really struggling! haha. What board would you go to between these two options?
Brook Duckett HS Untitled hands down!!!
Have you ever ridden the CI Weirdo Ripper Noel? This board looks so similiar, it seems like the only difference is the finbox placement. Would you say there is a comparison under foot?
I've had 4 WR's and they go good in 3-6+. I think the WR has too much rocker to be a groveler in the 1-3+ range. So the Untitled is a bit more versatile.... and faster down the line compared to the WR. Cheers!
Hi Noel if i ride 40L boards what volume could i go down to in the futureflex construction?
Ryan The Rock 39
This board is sick, def one of my favorites out of the HS line up, have you tried Version 2?
Miguel Marquina Not yet...
Hey Noel, I have a couple of ci fevers (a squash and round tail) for when the waves are 3 foot plus, a pyzel ghost for those pumping days but since selling my sampler there’s a gap I my quiver. I’m tossing up between a HS Untitled or a JS nitro for those smaller days. For some reason I don’t really gel with swallow tails( I had a rocket 9 which I didnt like at all) What of these would you recommend for those smaller days up to 3foot.
Gene Duncan Holy Grail or Sharpeye Disco Cheater.
Hi Noel, love your reviews mate ! For crappier conditions which board would you chose Untitled vs Holy Grail ?
Did you end up picking one? I'm in the same boat as you. Looking for something for Florida East coast 2-3 usually wind swell crappy conditions. And occasional 3-7 fair days during the winter months. Have been riding a sci fi in 5'11 and it gets the job done but the board is wayyyy too fragile.
Hey Noel, did you ever get to ride the Untitled in 4-6+' surf? You said you were excited to try it in bigger waves, and the HS site indicates this board is for 3-8' waves, whereas it puts the HG in the 1-6' range. Wondering if this board can be surfed in HH-DOH waves in Ventura.
Brooks Perry I did not... however after riding it in 6’ surf it was solid and it can push the wave size to 8’
Thank you for another awesome review Noel, I am from South Africa and have watched many of your shows, I love the concept of “surf n show” and find your comments insightful and immensely useful., well done!
I ordered an HS Untitled board and wanted your take on surfing it as a Twin fin (2+1) setup. It looks a little like the the old MR Twin fin with some modern tweaks.
I get my board next week and wanted to buy the MR Twin fins as a combo, it’s expensive and I would really appreciate some advise on that? FYI I have the HS fins (black set) same as yours in the video, just not sure if I should bother buying the twin fins, I felt it might make the board fly in small waves, what do you think?
So stoked you like our show!!!! I think the 2+1 set up could go very well in the Untitled. Sorry I didn't try that for you but I have been trying that more and more in the small wave boards and it usually goes pretty good. I know fins are expensive so I feel your pain but on the bright side if they don't go well in this board they could go good in another later on. Buying fins and building a fin quiver is just as important to me a surfboard quiver. I also recommend riding the Untitled first with the HS1 Generation fins that you have. Maybe get used to the board with those fins in it and then later order the MR Twin Fin set up and make the board fresh again with the new set up. I like doing things like this first because a fin change like this will make the board feel completely different and that's fun and exciting. Cheers!!!
Surf n Show Reviews thanks for the prompt response, I will follow your advise regarding the Twin fins.
I have been collecting surfboards for a few years now, I never let a good one go and have been getting into fin configurations over the past 2 years, I most definitely agree with building your fin quiver. Different fins make a vast difference to each board on different waves and I really enjoy experimenting also.
Thank you for your time Noel!
Great surfing as usual. Song is pretty bummin though!
jmk jmk Stoked you like the review!!
Awesome videos Noel! I'm the same height as you but weigh 150. From your experience do you feel it would be ok to go with a 5'6 in Florida waves? Thank you!
Philippe Strapko What size boards do you ride now and what is the Volume? What is your skill level too? Thanks
How do you think this board would have done on a 2 + 1 setup?
Miguel Marquina Might go good... give it a try and let me know.
Hey Noel, which board do you think turns the easiest/most fluidly...the untitled, the lost v3 stealth, or the voodoo child?
Thanks for the help brother.
Brandon Lane I would say the Holy Grail... I know that’s not one of the boards you gave me to choose from. Out of the 3 boards Untitled. Cheers
hi Noel, this or firewire moonbeam which you also reviewed. I am 6'2, riding in SoCal - El Porto and Manhattan Beach mostly
Marek Novotny Untitled for your quick little beach breaks.
Dear Noel. Should I get a FutureFlex board with less volume than in a PE? Say 32L in PE and 30.5 in FF?
Mads Bording You could go a little less but not 2 Liters. I would say .5 to 1 Liter max. If you are coming into winter time like I am and you are going to be putting on a 4/3 then you might want to go with the same Liters as your PE. I usually stay the same Liters if I order a custom but sometimes a manufacturer sends me an EPS in 25.4 or so and I usually ride 26.5 and still works ok for me. I hope this helps...
Noel, what differences against midas, it seem very similar
juan carlos salazar Not sure... I have not seen a Midas up close yet. Sorry
And the Hypto Krypto? Are you ever going to review this board?
Best Surf Channel for sure! Keep up
Sou lindo Yes... eventually...
Untitled vs sampler for 1-5 feet? How do they compar?
Mosbys Untitled for sure... the Sampler will go better in 1-2’ surf but it will struggle a bit in 3-5’ surf due to low rocker. Untitled will go ok in 1-2’ surf but goes mental in 3-5’ surf.
I’m debating which board to get... what do you think is better for Southern California conditions the untitled or lost physco killer
Itai Lavi Untiled
Surf n Show Reviews thank you
How would you compare the untitled to the holy grail I love my holy grail but I just ordered an untitled and I’m wondering if it has any differences that I can really notice
ernsto polanco The Untitled has a totally different feel... both boards are sick but the HG is a tad faster and a little more responsive. I found the HG to be very loose and I needed a fin with a bunch of rake to keep it under control.
Surf n Show Reviews one more question Noel sorry bro, how would the hg compare to the sci fi Tomo
ernsto polanco Sorry I have not ridden the Sci Fi yet.
Noel, would the Untitled be somewhat redundant in a quiver compared to a Hi5 from CI?
The Hi5 by CI is more of a small wave board with a fish type feel. The Untitled is good for 1-6 surf and rides more like a performance board. The Untitled is a great utility 2 in 1 board that Grovels good and can do some legit surfing in the pocket when the waves get overhead too.
How do you like the future flex construction compared to the flexbar and dual core fusion? Does the future flex still hold up in chop?
Chris Fan I really like them all. They each have their own unique feeling. The Flexbar feels like it has the most flex and it is a very smooth ride. Like driving a Cadillac.... but I liked it with a stiffer fin. The Fusion Dual Core has good Flex and low chatter but they don’t make the board in my size and you cannot order it custom. The FF by Haydenshapes is probably my favorite. It has incredible spring in turns and the torsion Flex is a bit stiffer so you can even use fins that have good Flex to get even more out of the board in small waves. I rode the FF Technology in semi choppy conditions and it worked great. I hope this helps.
Awesome thanks for the reply! I agree exactly with your comment on the Flexbar, that's how I felt with mine too. That's the only one I've tried though. I'm definitely excited to try a Futureflex! It almost sounds like the futureflex is more like the JS HyFi construction. I've ridden HyFi and really really like how those feel. Exciting and very lively feeling boards, that actually handles chop pretty well.
Chris Fan I like the JS HYFI Tech too. It’s very lively for sure. The FF Tech has more spring back than that one too.
Hi Noel, is there going to be an untitled v2 review? Cheers bro
justin rowe Not sure at this point
Hey again Noel! Untitled or holy grail for gettin radical in 2-3 foot?
Kaleb Mannigel Both are epic!!! I like the HG better...
Hey Noel, is it possible for you to review the OG flyer from C.I?
Miguel Marquina That review will be out next Friday!!! Stay tuned
Hey Noel I’m 5’7” and weigh 146, do you have any insight on what size I should get for the untitled?
Check out these liter ranges for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Expert = 23-25L
Advanced = 25-27L
Intermediate = 28-30L
Pick your skill level and that will help you grab the right size Untitled.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks, Appreciate the help 👍🏻
Do you think you could do a review on a dhd dx1. I am riding one right now and it feels pretty good.
Thanks
Also I am curious about the JS monsta 6. Is a review for the board coming soon?
Thanks Noel
Max Drewe The DHD boards look sick and I would love to review their boards. At the moment they are not keen on our show... hopefully in the near future. Sorry
So maby fire wire sci fi vs gamma vs skx vs Midas??? Please also Bradley's Roman vs gladiator please?
I believe the FireWire Gamma is going to happen. The other FIreWire boards could happen later down the line though.
Is this an all around good short board for Cali?
Khalil McLeod Yes!! Sick little board
Hi Noel ! did u try that board with 2+1 fins? like mr fins?
Valentine Emelyanov No sorry...
Valentine Emelyanov The CI Twin fin is completely different. This HS feels like a thruster and the CI Twin fin is very loose and a bit skatey.
Good review Noel. I have one and love it but have managed to break two fin boxs out of the three. Not sure of it is me or the board but sort of bummed about it. Has anyone held this issue?
Twed j8 That’s a bummer. Is it in the FF Technology?
Surf n Show Reviews Yeah future flex tech made in the Australian factory. I have ridden other FF board and they all held up well so this one might be a dud.
Twed j8 The Future Flex Boards I have are made in Australia. Bummer about your fin box.
That’s a bummer :(
Would you recommend this board for 3-5ft Indo? Cheers
Mathias Giacardy Yes... it can handle 3-5’ Indo.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you
how would you compare this to the Uber Twin? I currently ride an untitled as a twin+trailer T-1 fins and its my favorite board. I weight 165 and intermediate surfer. My untitled is a bit big 6'-33L. looking to down size and get a 31 Liter Uber twin or a smaller Untitled. which one do you prefer?
Uber Twin is faster and better in smaller waves. The Untitled is more versatile for 2-6’ surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks noel. you improve my surfing
Hi Noel, I am an intermediate surfer and 190 lbs. do you think a 6'2 untitled in future flex would be an appropriate board? I have been riding a 6'2 HS Plunder and looking to get on something a little more maneuverable. I do most of my surfing in Santa Cruz and occasionally head north towards SF.
Daily Flow Fitness Sounds good... are the liters roughly the same?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for the quick response. Plunder has 40 liters, Untitled 37 liters.
Daily Flow Fitness Is 37 liters good for you on a daily Driver performance type board?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 yeah, I have a 6'6 rusty blackbird as my step up at 37 liters I like a lot. I'm hesitant to pick up the 6'2 untitled because I want something I can turn pretty aggressively. I am an advanced board rider and strong paddler but my pop can be hit or miss due to a chronic knee injury.
I am confident the 6'2 untitled will be stable enough for me to get up consistently but not sure if it will have the maneuverability I am looking for. I know some HS models like the Hypto krypto is best ridden as short as possible. Is this model similar in that regard?
Daily Flow Fitness No this model is a little different. The Hypto is quite different.
This Untitled is very performance orientated. It will do anything a HPSB will do in the pocket.
I had trouble with this board in generating speed in smaller surf. I tend to drive down the line heavily off my front foot and I couldn't get any speed at all on the Untitled until I tried driving it with my back foot. Then it lit up! It's very responsive off the tail and carves quick and easily. I feel like if you're more of a back foot oriented surfer you'll probably fall in love with this board.
I'm curious if anyone else has had the same experience.
I absolutely love my Untitled. Possibly my favourite board in 43 years of surfing. But I don't really know what back and front footed surfing means. I would have said my weight is fairly even, but shifts fore and aft as necessary.
@@goog646 Noel talks about it sometimes how he surfs more off his back foot. By contrast, Dane Reynolds would be someone who surfs more off his front foot. This mainly just applies to how they drive down the line for speed.
For whatever reason the board just wouldn't get going when I would try to pump for speed. The board was epic though when I had some speed. I really wish the board would've suited my surfing better because I totally feel like I'm missing out an amazing board.
@playswithpixels I got the untitled v2 for Xmas, I haven't surfed it much.(due to COVID) I surf mostly beachies,
and I still haven't clicked with this board, it feels kinda stiff. I will try out a different set of fins as Noel suggested and I will try to step more back.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and this tip ! I think it will work out , :)
Interesting, I get issues too with speed generation but when I think about it im more front foot heavy. Will shift to back foot and try this out
Yes I totally agree!
Hi Noel, another superb video. I have a Holy Grail and a Neckbeard 2. Is there any reason to have an Untitled ? It looks so good. Thanks, you are the best.
All three boards are epic… but they all overlap for waves in 2-6’ range.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hi, I already have mine this month. I am super happy. Very easy with 2+1 . For bigger waves I prefer the Holy Grail.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 what do You mean by the term overlap coach ?
@@chrisathan4293 “Overlap” means… the boards are good in roughly the same size waves so you might want to consider boards that do not overlap in wave size. I personally like a quiver and I am ok with the overlap in 3-6’ surf. I find that some boards are better at surfing vertical in that wave range and other boards carve better. So in the end it’s more about what I am working on in my surfing and then I pick the best board for that day.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you so much for the very helpful breakdown coach ! Very helpful advice ! :D 😃
Untitled Vs Holy Grail. If you had to chose one board to ride as an everyday driver which one would you chose?
Rick Bondservant Holy Grail
Great question!
In the beginning of the video you looked like you were going to slide out on your backside hack. You know that for thirty years I have never surfed anything other than CI boards, my first board was a Rich Reed Spindrift out of a local Santa Barbara pawn shop. But now I think I'm going to break that tradition. I want to try HS boards more and more. Here in SD they have a membership where you can order three boards a year, I'm planning to do it. I just wanted to shake Al Merricks hand one day and tell him how loyal I have been to his product growing up.
WOW you are a really loyal customer.... and I am sure Al and the Folks at CI would be stoked to shake your hand. I hope the HS boards go good for you, they have for me. Cheers!!!
Hi Noel how does this compare to the pyzel Astro pop?
The Untitled is more of a Daily Driver… the AP is a Groveler. The AP has less overall rocker and it’s way faster and has more glide so it paddles better. The AP is best in 1-4’ surf and the Untitled is best in 3-6’+ surf.
Sick review Noel! I'm contemplating on the Holy Grail vs the Untitled. How would you say the HG compares to the untitles in terms of speed, and ease of turning? Cheers man!
Ryan Tibari The HG turns really quick!!! I needed a more raked out fin just to get it under control. The HG is super fast too. I like both boards a bunch but the HG was next level performance for me.
Surf n Show Reviews thanks for the reply! I think I'll be giving the HG a try very soon...
Ryan Tibari Let me know how it goes for you.... remember make sure you get a fin with some rake for that board
Hey Noel, what's your thoughts on this vs the hydroshort?
I like the Untitled way better. It’s faster and more versatile in smaller waves. You can run a Twin + Trailer in the Untitled and get more speed in smaller waves.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Oh wow, awesome! Mahalos for the fast reply! You da man Noel!!
Would you use the untitled, the HG, or the Hypto Krypto when surfing trestles. I kind of need one of those so I can switch to San onofre which requires a lot of paddle power which all three give.
Big Oof For Sano I would go Hypto out of those three boards.
How does this board compare to the Holy Grail?
Miguel Marquina The HG turns much faster... I like the HG with the AM2’s just to keep it under control. The HG is way faster and looser too.
Hey, I'm looking at this board to surf breaks around San Francisco and was thinking to go bigger with a 6'3" just to make paddling out and moving between peaks easier. I'm intermediate, 6'4", and 180lbs. I'm not very technical and just want a solid board for waist to slightly overhead surf to do a few turns. Currently riding a 34L Unibrow but really struggle to fight that OB current and want something better for paddling. Would a 39L Untitled be a good choice to fill this gap or do you think it would be too clunky?
Austin Cloyed 5 liters more is a big increase... maybe go 3 liters more and you will still be able to turn it.
How does the Untitled compare to the Mark Richards Super Twin???
Where is the Futureflex made? Thailand?
Jack Reed Australia
How this board comper to the dark side ?.thx
The Dark Side is a legit HPSB and this Untitled is more of a Small wave performance board/ Daily Driver. The Untitled is more user friendly and more versatile... you can ride it in small surf with 2+ Trailer and it shreds.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 u r the man
Noel , would you go untitled or Uber driver (both eps) for 3-4 foot ?
Untitled
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks ! Helped a lot
Hey Noel, have you surfed the love buzz?
BenKin07 No but I heard it’s excellent. HP but very user friendly.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for the reply!
Are you going to do some reviews with CI Spine Tech ?
Beach Shak Yes!!! I have the OG Flyer in Spine-Tek. It feels really good too. Stay tuned that review is coming up.
Cheer's Noel, if you are looking for another large upright Fin that fits the Futures box and is stiffer than Futures F8 HC but less stiff than the Ando fiberglass try the Captain Fin Co Tanner G HC fin.
Beach Shak Epic... I will try to get some of those. I love Captain Fins stuff. Cheers
Where does he surf?
Hello sorry so late the message but i found this board right now at Spain but in 5,9 30,19 liters epoxy construcción an I don’t know well if it works forme ,my surf is advance and I am 1,80 and 167 lbs, what do you think this board would work for fun sesiones not for good conditions ?
Here are some liter ranges to consider for your weight.
Pro/Expert = 26-28L
Advanced = 28-30L
Intermediate = 31-33L
@@surfnshowreviews7777 hi again i try today de surfboard 5,9 with large techflex john John fins and frontside was ok but surfing backside every time i make the bottom i continued going up an out of the waves as i can turn the wave perhaps the fins large is not good?
@@franciscoventura3307 Yes, try a medium set of fins… maybe try the Al Merrick’s. It will loosen up the board a bit compared to a large fin.
At the end I tried the board with medium fins on the right with several sections, in the smallest very fluid and easy to maneuver, in the largest section my backside it was more difficult to track the edges. I would like to try it with twin fins, do you recommend any in particular for this model?
@@franciscoventura3307 My Pivot Twins + Trailer are epic. Check them here…
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Untitled or voodoo child? I’m still debating which to get
Chris Levuiqes I think the Untitled is more versatile in small waves compared to the Voodoo Child. The real comparison is between the Untitled and the Lost V3 Stealth Carbon Wrap.
How would you say those two compare Noel?
Chris Wilson They are both great for roughly the same size wave heights. Both boards feel mental under foot but I would say that the FF Technology is a bit faster springing from rail to rail compared to the Carbon Wrap. Both boards and constructions are mental though.
Untiteld vs hypto vs dark side vs love buzz ? Please
That would be a fun review but not sure it’s going to happen. I would love to review those HS models. I really like his board designs so far. יכין ינקלביץ
Can I custom order one of these here in the US?
Not sure... shoot Hayden a DM on Insta
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks !
Looks almost like the CI Twin.
BRADEN BADUA True they look similar but they surf completely different.
What would you prefer untitled or phantom for daily driver at beach breaks?
Guy Giuffre Untitled pivots faster. Untitled for Beach Breaks
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What is your #1 fav all around-er?
kev O That’s a tough one... I like these boards as daily drivers in 2-5 surf. In no particular order.
1. HS Untitled Future Flex
2. Lost V3 Stealth Carbon Wrap
3. CI Fever
4. JS Monsta Box HYFI
Check out our website to see how they all compare. Www.surfnshow.com
@@surfnshowreviews7777 For number 1 did you mean to write Holy Grail instead of Untitled? All your previous comments implied that you like the HG more.
John F I do like the HG more than the Untitled.... my answer to the original question might have been before I did the HG review. The Untitled came out before the HG.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for your quick reply Noel.
Noel how does a PE board compare with a traditional PU? Would you actually feel a difference? Actually of course YOU would because you're a surf ninja, but would the average joe feel it (let's use choppy surf as the example)
Follow up question, would it be more resistant to yellowing and pressure dents than normal PU?
Thanks brother man. You're amazing.
PS - toss in some of the new Tool album in your next review? =)
Brandon Lane I didn’t feel much difference... I would have to ride two boards with exact dims and then give some real feedback. Not sure about the yellowing either.... pressure dents should be similar
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Good to know. Thank you so much Noel. You're king.
PS - PE vs Varial+epoxy for windy and big? That's the decision I need to make by Monday. I'm pretty sure the answer is gonna be PE.
Have a great weekend
Brandon Lane Varial + Epoxy resin is no good... I did test that and it does not load or flex right on the bottom turns.
Brandon Lane Varial + Polyester resin is epic....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Man. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you brother. No joke, you've probably helped me avoid at least 6 horrible, surf related, financial decisions and can't thank you enough.
rocket 9 or untitled?
BENDIK BORGEN Untitled for sure...
Whats your favourite Hayden shapes board so far Noel?
Tim Hall All The Boards are Sick in the FF Tech. My favorite HS board is the Holy Grail
Thanks for the fast response Noel. Wow thats a big call, as you seem stoked with all the HS models to date. It looks super fun. I am looking to get an HS and cant decide on which one... I like the look of the Untitled too. I'm a fairly front footed surfer (goofy) and love a continuous rockerered board that paddles well!!
Tim Hall The Untitled is pretty mental for sure. It’s one of my favorites for 2017. Two of my friends have the Untitled too and they love theirs also.
Thanks Noel, great feedback.
Untitled, Holy Grail,….others,…….
What do you think? What's your favorite?
Bon Summers what about the love buzz?
Kelly?
Looks like a lost sub scorcher 2 with a single wing swallow
Bra- how is Noel?
Made in Thailand trash expensive boards