Hey Noel because of your videos just bought the futures P6 because I’m working on surfing the pocket more they work so good! Just wanted to say thanks for all the reviews you really help the surf community out a lot!
Great review Noel ! Great breakdown for the volume decision ! thank you so much for the great support with your long time surfing experience and knowledge !
I had a 5'8 in the same construction and dimensions and took it out for the first time on a 3-6 foot barreling day at a nice beach break. Board felt like magic with great flow and awesome speed. Sadly I snapped it on a back side barrel that same day ): I found another used 5'8 but a little wider and coming in at 25.5 liters. Still love it but definitely not as much pop and speed as the PEC and not quite as good in barreling surf. Great review thanks!
ben clarke Phantom has more foam forward so it paddles a little better. The WN might be a tad more responsive but we’re splitting hairs here. Due to more foam forward the Phantom is more user friendly...
Looks sick! Quick question on construction.. Are you ordering stock glass or lighter for these Hayden PE boards? Cheers mate. I just became a patron. You're doing God's work!
Heya thanks for posting this. I'm thinking about selling my phantom 5'9 and getting one of these, feel like mixing it up. Kinda bored of the phantom and there's a 5'11 of the WN in the shop here with similar dims to my 5'11 CI Pro which is epic (as long as I'm surfing properly on the day 🤪) and I'm using that as a good wave board. I'm 175cm and +-63kg Based in Bali so the waves have a bit more oomph and never really super small. Reckon that could work as an every day stick? Also i just saw another review where the PE-C construction was causing issues with the glassing around the stringer as the foam compressed and the stringer and glass came away. How have your WN's held up with more use? Tia 😊🙏
Noel, I'm a big fan of your channel, great knowledgeable reviews! What would be your advise on Fins for 6.10' Walden Mini Mega Magic thruster set up? I'm 5.10'-200lb intermediate level downsizing from longboard to all-conditions short board, mainly surfing gulf-coast wind swells 3-5ft. Looking to advance into carving, bottom turns and fast transitioning. Thanks
lohena1 The HG is way looser and faster rail to rail. They fit the same wave range but they surf completely different. My HG was 5’6” and my WN was 5’9”... those 3” in length make all the difference in the world when it comes to how boards feel under foot.
At your weight and height, all the Fin package suggestions would seem to point you to a Medium sized fin. However, you tend to enjoy Large size fins. You and I are similar height and weight, and unfortunately I don't have the ability to try different fins. Why do you prefer Large and should we ignore the "suggestions" and go for a Large set? I reckon it still comes down to the individual and which size feels the best.
Paul Stanfield I like a large fin due to it having a wider base. The wider base allows me to push harder off the bottom to generate more speed. The downside sometimes can be that a board feels tight due to much fin depth with a large fin or its creating too much lift in bigger waves and it’s hard for me to keep the rail engaged. In those cases I switch to a medium fin. If you are thinking about trying a large fin then I recommend a pivot set or a set like Al Merrick fins that have a smaller center fin to keep the board loose.
Hi noel, untitled vs whitenoize? Intermediate surfer beach breaks spots.. been using holygrail most of the time.. looking for mush 2-4 ft waves.. which would you choose? My HG kinda slowsdown when mushy conditions
I recommend the Untitled. Watch the Raven review dropping tomorrow morning. I talk a little about each of the different designs. By the way... the Untitled goes good in smaller waves with a Twin + Trailer. A little more speed
Noel , how about the white noise vs CI black&white as your everyday all around to go short board for so cal waves? Both at 6.1 come around the same dims/liters.
Catch the Wave The bouncy around on the bigger wave was due to the white foam on the wave face from the set wave before the one I caught. This board will go good in chop... it’s PU foam not EPS.
Thanks for the review, a lot of useful informations as always! had to rewatch since I found a good deal on a FF 5’10 White Noiz 28.8L . But I have one question, I am an average+ surfer that doesn’t ride really often but I can still hit the lip and get some turns done, I’m a bit over 5’7 but I have some longer and stronger legs than my height will suggest. I have a 5’8 TT Tomo Evo at 35L ~ (that was basically my first shortboard after only riding small “performance” softop like 5’10 tc softech) but I used it only in mushy to slightly roundy 1-3 feet waves. I had a lot of fun with such a fast board while I was also able to upgrade my turns but I feel like I’d be able to take of and paddle with a lot less volume and I’d like to do some more drawn out maneuvers in a bit cleaner 2-5 feet Portuguese sandbars / points without having the feeling of needing to spread out my legs super far like I would sometimes on the evo on better waves to not have all the float and crazy concaves slowing me down before my front foot. Do you think a 5’10 HS ff White Noiz would be a great option at 28.8L ? And which future fins would you recommend as all around good fins (setup I’ve enjoyed the most are FCS 1 DHD-2 in PC in (M size) for thruster sides with a FCS 1 PCC 3 (S size) in the middle, it’s a weird setup but I really dig the side fins with a thinner tips a pretty upright template and a smaller trailing middle fin). If you could help me I’d really appreciate and if would for sure help me . Thanks a lot and hope you’ll read this
@@surfnshowreviews7777 and for an intermediate level like me pretty much any volume calculator indicates a volume between 28 and 30 L I just would like to know if the shape (specially the amount of rail line and how tampered they are) would fit me fitness and the fact that I'would really like to make my turns drawn out and my position on the board more balanced where I used to feel a bit too much "chunckiness" between my feet with my legs spread out with the Evo...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 What are your thoughts on shorter guys like Connor and myself. Should we try keep our HPSB as close to our height or stick with ideal vol say 26lts. Waves 3to6ft
Paul Morgan It’s really a preference... longer boards in 1-4’ makes my turns delayed... feels like I’m surfing in slow motion. When the waves are 4-6’ a board my height feels good but I still like my HPSB’s at 5’7”... 2” shorter than my height. 6-8’ surf I like my boards at 5’9”
Hey Noel because of your videos just bought the futures P6 because I’m working on surfing the pocket more they work so good! Just wanted to say thanks for all the reviews you really help the surf community out a lot!
Noah Stone Stoked for you!!! Yeww
Great review Noel ! Great breakdown for the volume decision ! thank you so much for the great support with your long time surfing experience and knowledge !
Special thanks to @chriskarnmusic for the epic tunes for this review. The song name is Battle of Life.... enjoy!!!
I had a 5'8 in the same construction and dimensions and took it out for the first time on a 3-6 foot barreling day at a nice beach break. Board felt like magic with great flow and awesome speed. Sadly I snapped it on a back side barrel that same day ): I found another used 5'8 but a little wider and coming in at 25.5 liters. Still love it but definitely not as much pop and speed as the PEC and not quite as good in barreling surf. Great review thanks!
Talosnumber27 Epic post.. thank you! Sorry you broke your magic carpet.... cheers
Noel, seeing as you consider it more of a daily driver, how similar is it to a pyzel phantom? Cheers for the quality reviews mate!..
ben clarke Phantom has more foam forward so it paddles a little better. The WN might be a tad more responsive but we’re splitting hairs here. Due to more foam forward the Phantom is more user friendly...
👍 right on Thanks
Thanks for another great review Noel!Since you tried the stock white noiz ,i was wondering how heavy the PE C construction feels?
goodtimesmag.gr Similar to a normal PU/Poly in weight. This PE-C tech has more pop and feels more lively under foot compared to a normal PU/Poly.
Looks sick! Quick question on construction.. Are you ordering stock glass or lighter for these Hayden PE boards? Cheers mate. I just became a patron. You're doing God's work!
Cam Collison Cheers and welcome to the family. These boards are stock glassing... right off the rack.
Hey Noel can you review a mini simmons design, that would be fun.
Great review s usual. yes a 5'9" is too long for small waves. great show Noel, you are the best man, you are the best !!!
Heya thanks for posting this. I'm thinking about selling my phantom 5'9 and getting one of these, feel like mixing it up. Kinda bored of the phantom and there's a 5'11 of the WN in the shop here with similar dims to my 5'11 CI Pro which is epic (as long as I'm surfing properly on the day 🤪) and I'm using that as a good wave board. I'm 175cm and +-63kg Based in Bali so the waves have a bit more oomph and never really super small. Reckon that could work as an every day stick?
Also i just saw another review where the PE-C construction was causing issues with the glassing around the stringer as the foam compressed and the stringer and glass came away. How have your WN's held up with more use?
Tia 😊🙏
The WN is fun… I never have boards long enough to fall apart unless I cave in the deck.
Righto, noted. Cheers for getting back to me@@surfnshowreviews7777
Your surfing on this board is my favorite style-surfing vid of what you've done. White Noiz.
Noel, I'm a big fan of your channel, great knowledgeable reviews! What would be your advise on Fins for 6.10' Walden Mini Mega Magic thruster set up? I'm 5.10'-200lb intermediate level downsizing from longboard to all-conditions short board, mainly surfing gulf-coast wind swells 3-5ft. Looking to advance into carving, bottom turns and fast transitioning. Thanks
kosta koz Futures AM2 honey comb, Naked Viking AM Apex series fins size L, or FCSII Al Merrick Air Core size Large
I appreciate your reviews man. You've definitely increased my surfing IQ ten fold
Hi Noel, how would you say it compares to the Holy Grail? Seems like they’re geared for the same type of surf.
lohena1 The HG is way looser and faster rail to rail. They fit the same wave range but they surf completely different. My HG was 5’6” and my WN was 5’9”... those 3” in length make all the difference in the world when it comes to how boards feel under foot.
Thanks Noel!
At your weight and height, all the Fin package suggestions would seem to point you to a Medium sized fin. However, you tend to enjoy Large size fins. You and I are similar height and weight, and unfortunately I don't have the ability to try different fins. Why do you prefer Large and should we ignore the "suggestions" and go for a Large set? I reckon it still comes down to the individual and which size feels the best.
Paul Stanfield I like a large fin due to it having a wider base. The wider base allows me to push harder off the bottom to generate more speed. The downside sometimes can be that a board feels tight due to much fin depth with a large fin or its creating too much lift in bigger waves and it’s hard for me to keep the rail engaged. In those cases I switch to a medium fin.
If you are thinking about trying a large fin then I recommend a pivot set or a set like Al Merrick fins that have a smaller center fin to keep the board loose.
Surfing is looking good on the White Noiz.
Hi noel, untitled vs whitenoize? Intermediate surfer beach breaks spots.. been using holygrail most of the time.. looking for mush 2-4 ft waves.. which would you choose? My HG kinda slowsdown when mushy conditions
I recommend the Untitled. Watch the Raven review dropping tomorrow morning. I talk a little about each of the different designs. By the way... the Untitled goes good in smaller waves with a Twin + Trailer. A little more speed
@@surfnshowreviews7777 i saw the review at patreon kinda already have my HG for those type of waves..
Thank you so much
Noel , how about the white noise vs CI black&white as your everyday all around to go short board for so cal waves? Both at 6.1 come around the same dims/liters.
Those are both great daily drivers and very user friendly HPSB’s.
Looks like it will struggle in East Coast wind chop, but on those clean waves that tech looks good.
Catch the Wave The bouncy around on the bigger wave was due to the white foam on the wave face from the set wave before the one I caught. This board will go good in chop... it’s PU foam not EPS.
You mentioned it in the video, What your favorite one board quiver? 1-6 ft. Thank you!
Louis Liu Pyzalien 2 best 1 board quiver to date. That review drops next.
Thanks for the review, a lot of useful informations as always! had to rewatch since I found a good deal on a FF 5’10 White Noiz 28.8L . But I have one question, I am an average+ surfer that doesn’t ride really often but I can still hit the lip and get some turns done, I’m a bit over 5’7 but I have some longer and stronger legs than my height will suggest. I have a 5’8 TT Tomo Evo at 35L ~ (that was basically my first shortboard after only riding small “performance” softop like 5’10 tc softech) but I used it only in mushy to slightly roundy 1-3 feet waves. I had a lot of fun with such a fast board while I was also able to upgrade my turns but I feel like I’d be able to take of and paddle with a lot less volume and I’d like to do some more drawn out maneuvers in a bit cleaner 2-5 feet Portuguese sandbars / points without having the feeling of needing to spread out my legs super far like I would sometimes on the evo on better waves to not have all the float and crazy concaves slowing me down before my front foot. Do you think a 5’10 HS ff White Noiz would be a great option at 28.8L ? And which future fins would you recommend as all around good fins (setup I’ve enjoyed the most are FCS 1 DHD-2 in PC in (M size) for thruster sides with a FCS 1 PCC 3 (S size) in the middle, it’s a weird setup but I really dig the side fins with a thinner tips a pretty upright template and a smaller trailing middle fin). If you could help me I’d really appreciate and if would for sure help me . Thanks a lot and hope you’ll read this
Jules Correia How much do you weigh?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 around 65 kg / 143 lbs
@@surfnshowreviews7777 and for an intermediate level like me pretty much any volume calculator indicates a volume between 28 and 30 L I just would like to know if the shape (specially the amount of rail line and how tampered they are) would fit me fitness and the fact that I'would really like to make my turns drawn out and my position on the board more balanced where I used to feel a bit too much "chunckiness" between my feet with my legs spread out with the Evo...
Jules Correia You liter range is 26-28 for intermediate surfer. Fins in futures F6, or new Jordy’s size M for more drawn out turns.
Did you try the AM2's with the White Noiz?
Not that I remember. They will go good though
Great show.
Can u do some Stacy surfboard?
I put my eyes on the Roach " model
Thx
surfer I have talked to them twice now... it’s up to them if they send boards. I said yes to reviewing some of their boards.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 good luck champ
Hi Noel. I’m thinking about getting an untitled. I weigh 77kgs and can surf. What volume would you recommend if I’m ordering it in FutureFlex.
Imran Esack Advanced surfer = 28-30L, intermediate 31-33L
Could you do a video on which board you think would be the best for a 1 board quiver?
Brian Truong That board review is up next!!! Pyzalien 2!!!
Doing anything gnarly to celebrate Ep 100?? Maybe a supsquatch, finless, myerhoffer, 12ft mal.. or a boog stand up?
Wil Stein Were talking about doing something fun... but nothing like what you mentioned. Ha
How would u compare it to the fever ? I have a busted fever , I like it a lot ! But I need new stud
DJ Pipe Official Fever is faster and more high performance
Can you review any of the Channeled twin fins shaped by Simon Jones?
lucas fernandez Never heard of that shaper... and your the first request.
A 5'9" board just isn't small enough for an adult. Carl Hayward would be stoked on how much has changed.
Noel, wouldn't you have to grab your drink first, then sit back and enjoy the review? scratching head...
😂
How does Connor Coffin manage on a 510? He is only 5ft 7 tall at 155 lbs/
Paul Morgan He’s surfing waves with a bit more power, and I’m sure he rides shorter boards in smaller waves.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 What are your thoughts on shorter guys like Connor and myself. Should we try keep our HPSB as close to our height or stick with ideal vol say 26lts. Waves 3to6ft
Paul Morgan It’s really a preference... longer boards in 1-4’ makes my turns delayed... feels like I’m surfing in slow motion. When the waves are 4-6’ a board my height feels good but I still like my HPSB’s at 5’7”... 2” shorter than my height. 6-8’ surf I like my boards at 5’9”
was that first wave the biggest barrel dodge in surf n show history?!
Noel, do the Rusty 1984 and Blade.
whats the weight of this boards?
Martin Suter I did not weigh them but they feel similar to a normal PU/Poly
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First Time ever at being first! Awesome review Noel👍
C'mon.
.5 litre, you instantly noticed 🤔🤔🤔???
He's a pretty dang decent surfer mate.
He rides and compares boards more than everyone. He'll feel it.
If you listen to slater, volume is only a thing you worry about until you are planing. After that it is not as important.
@@jesseshorr9334 true dat. But as you get older and girthier it gets harder to hit that planing threshold.without a little help from increased volume.
Hipto Krypto please!
Steven Yao Ok... hang tight.
U made me chip my tooth :(