Karen Read Trial Recaps - Day 29

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
  • So, today we have Lucky, we have defence experts, we have Lally's first chance to cross-examine witnesses. This is the first time the defence actually gets to call evidence in their favour. Let's talk about how they did.

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  • @kirstenlandon3043
    @kirstenlandon3043 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    One of my daughters has been a vet tech for over ten years. I was watching Runkle’s recaps one day and they put up the picture of John O’Keefe’s arm. My daughter was walking through the room, saw the picture, stopped and said, “That’s a dog bite! A large dog.” I paused it and she started pointing out all the different aspects. Then she added, “I think it’s a failed K9,” and after explaining why, she asked if that was right. I was floored. I figure if my 32 year old kid knows, then why can’t these people figure it out?

  • @jonw7214
    @jonw7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Lucky basically exposed they lied in the police report - embarrassing for the state.

    • @EricChipko
      @EricChipko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I have very little respect for Mr Lally. But this was amomg The worst. You want to make Lucky look bad, confront him with a time card. Not a freaking police report! You have to know that this is overtime for all these people.

    • @EricChipko
      @EricChipko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Runckle had not said this yet. And Lally knew it was in controversy

    • @Jack-bc5xg
      @Jack-bc5xg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucky is a Karen supporter. He's a paid witness that will say anything for that paycheck. Blind as a bat. Horrible witness for defense.

    • @Jack-bc5xg
      @Jack-bc5xg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Horrible witness for the defense. Hope they have more of the same.

    • @jonw7214
      @jonw7214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Jack-bc5xg not sure if you typo'd there but this witness blew the timeline to pieces. Lolly could have easily pulled his timecard if he was lying about the time he started.

  • @bridgetmcarthur155
    @bridgetmcarthur155 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love the moment the ME closes her eyes and gives a huge sigh! I agree with you that the ME has a theory, and it's not what the state wants.

  • @marymaclaren9553
    @marymaclaren9553 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    Dr. Russell may be retired, but I bet she still holds her license to practice which requires being up to date in education. And on the off chance she does not, which I doubt, does anyone actually believe after hearing her history that this woman is not still reading the literature just to relax? And she still actively consults.

    • @JackThelRipper
      @JackThelRipper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Her and the 2 other “Experts” are top shelf all day! They make the so Called StATe TrOoPeRs look like kindergarteners. If you’ve ever watched that movie “Supper Troopers” that is MA state police in a nutshell at this point.

    • @caspersroom
      @caspersroom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I believe she does still consult in LA. She tried to say that on the stand to Lally the other day but he repeated it as being many years ago. But, she did mention that she still gets called in by the coroner from time to time. At least, that was what I thought she said, but I might need to rewatch that part.

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@JackThelRipperTo be fair, Guerini is a good technician, looks like he works hard to get éducation. But he had no business being put up as an expert. He isn't one.

    • @avp6730
      @avp6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@Songbirdstressthe problem with him is that he isn't incompetent he's corrupt..

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@avp6730 I disagree. He may not be speaking up, but I don't think he did anything wrong.

  • @magicalmary2706
    @magicalmary2706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Catching on replay. Ian, I wanted to reach through the screen to hug you. You are such a good person and this harassment of you is disgusting.
    💓

  • @4thekids531
    @4thekids531 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Lucky may be a national treasure but Runkle is Canadian gold 💛🇨🇦

  • @cheryltorrie558
    @cheryltorrie558 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I have never had less respect for a prosecutor than this one. He just leads me to sleep not facts.

    • @ChimeraTruely
      @ChimeraTruely 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He and Binger seem to be fighting for first place. They both tried to get the defendants' smart decisions to get lawyers against them. Binger won that battle because he actually did it in front of the Jury, which was worse than making the motion outside of the jury's presence. Though Lalli gained some coward points for forcing his assistant to argue a motion he knows is reversible error. They claimed the search happened before she was interviewed by Police and intentionally left out that the lead investigator called her from his private phone minutes before she searched for a lawyer. Binger also won another battle because he continued to keep a charge against the defendant while knowing that there was zero chance of the charge standing. The physical measurement of the evidence proved it did not fall under that law, & should have never been charged.
      Lalli still has a way to go, so we will see who wins the war!

    • @hope7144
      @hope7144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LOL OMG So True ! I literally put him on MUTE when he is talking !!!! John O'Keefe deserved better! And the Corrupt Canton Cops should all be FBI Investigated and FIRED !!!

    • @dollyhood6549
      @dollyhood6549 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      More than one time I thought to myself “is he trying to covertly support the defendant?” But ofc that couldn’t be the case w Lally bc that would mean he was semi capable & I can’t believe that for a second

    • @sandrabecht4489
      @sandrabecht4489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he is a smalltown dumbo bully

    • @Jack-bc5xg
      @Jack-bc5xg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The prosecuter is good. He's not into the TV theatrics like the defense using smoke and mirrors and hyperbole. It's not a soap opera, it's court.

  • @Songbirdstress
    @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    The Lucky thing just shows Lally is zero judge of character. Of course Lucky would know these details, he's exactly the kind of person who notices these things.

    • @bradenculver7457
      @bradenculver7457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ⁠​⁠@@RenataKleinRKthe original comment I think overstates how much we really know about Lucky, and then this one does the exact same thing. There are plenty of intelligent or knowledgeable people who aren’t doctors, lawyers, politicians, or whatever. There are plenty of construction workers, blue collar workers, service industry, etc. who are just trying to make a living and are more than competent individuals. There’s so many factors that lead to a persons life path, and to conclude what you did is simply hubristic.
      He also did not come across dumb at all, I think that may be your bias based on socioeconomic status and not anything that actually happened on the stand. He was articulate, answered lally’s questions promptly, and even surprised him with the tail light question. I’m sorry, if you watched this trial and are concluding that Lucky is one of the dumber witnesses, that’s absurd. Some of the Commonwealth’s witnesses have seemed less than competent and have not been nearly as articulate and consistent as lucky was.

    • @patrickirish9427
      @patrickirish9427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@RenataKleinRK the best truck drivers I've ever met have done that their whole life.....he didn't kill anyone driving a pizza car and didn't kill anyone yet with a plow. I'm guessing he at least knows how to observe a roadway. I'm a tradesman and hunter, at work and in the bush my eyes are very different than a lawyers eyes in industry or in the bush.

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@RenataKleinRK He comes across as neurodivergent. Detail oriented. And yes, he might have driven a pizza truck, but Ill bet you any money he did it very well.

    • @E-magineMySurprise
      @E-magineMySurprise 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@Songbirdstress I agree about Lucky likely being neurodivergent, and that probably is why he has a good memory for things that are outside the routine.
      He comes across as someone who was pushed around, used, or manipulated by peers and has learned to stand for himself and trust his memory or perception. He recognizes that people will try to use him and refuses to get drawn in or take the bait.
      (I'm acknowledge that I am totally speculating and reading way into what I observed. I am biased, being neurodivergent myself so this may be revealing more about me than Lucky.)

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@E-magineMySurprise Yup. He's also probably used to AHs underestimating him.

  • @joyw101
    @joyw101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Lucky probably could not tell anything but the truth. I recognize his behaviour, demeanour and speech patterns. My daughter is on the spectrum, diagnosed with nonverbal learning disorder at age 11, and Lucky’s presentation is very similar. People wth NVLD do not “see” all the nonverbal cues so don’t understand if people are sceptical, bored or irritated etc and basically have no filter. They can also hyper focus on one topic and know it inside and out hence he can easily explain the difference in the two vehicles when prompted. Also rules are hard and fast so if he was to be at work at 2:15am he’d be there right at 2:15am

    • @-c3202
      @-c3202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I also think this is why proctor discounted him as an "unreliable and inconsistent witness": the ableism that denies that neurospicy adults are, in fact, adults, and that neurospicy folks can give you good info. I bet they just never gave him the time to answer their questions (he tends to pause and then speak slowly)

  • @Mah_Na_Mah_Na
    @Mah_Na_Mah_Na 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Replay crew cause I fell asleep halfway through. Just FYI, for those who don't know, Captain Kori set sail on July 9th, 2023. His 1 yr anniversary is coming up. His last wish was to get Pixi @ Crap Goth (his Mum) to 100k subscribers. In honor of Capt. Kori's life, I make a motion to bust our butts to get her there by his birthday, which is August 24th, I believe. Is it possible? Anything is possible. We got our good captain to 100k subs in less than a week.

    • @ColFlustered
      @ColFlustered 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Aww 😢 that's my birthday, I'll be sure to take some time to send him extra love. I'm going to give Pixi a follow right now.

    • @MommaSmith
      @MommaSmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just subscribed to Pixies channel!! Let’s make it happen for the Captain!!! ❤ Everyone go to The Crap Goth and hit that button! It’s free and it’s for Cory!!!!! 💖

  • @Donna-dl8pp
    @Donna-dl8pp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Runkle, what a heart you have... supporting Cory as u did. I'm sorry to hear the hate u get totally not deserved. I'm glad I found u Rob and Emily you have restored my faith in humanity
    Keep doing u... we all love u for it xxxx❤

  • @Kalysta
    @Kalysta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wow Lally really pissed me off going after the dog bite expert. Because of my line of work, I have been bitten several times by animals, and it was always just one part of my body. Being full out mauled by a family pet is extremely rare. Lally go talk to veterinary staff to answer that question.

  • @nora__
    @nora__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    During Lawyer You Know's recap, Peter started giving some points to the CW when Lally tries to impeach Lucky with the report with all the different times and conflicting details. Then the chat started to flood with comments that Proctor wrote the report. He took it back immediately 😅 ahhh this case.

    • @alisongladden1331
      @alisongladden1331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention Lally just lies to try to “catch” people. Lucky has never changed his story I read the report and it was everything he said. Lally also lied to Dr Russel saying she had Boston Globe for 12-18 months when she clearly said in Voir Dire 6-12.. not that it even matters but he’s playing dirty!

    • @bluj5917
      @bluj5917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Proctor interviewed lucky in may of 2023 and the fbi interviewed him in august of 2023. Before proctor interviewed him the defences private investigator interviewed him.

    • @dizzee5768
      @dizzee5768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I sometimes have a hard time listening to TLYK

    • @-c3202
      @-c3202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@dizzee5768yeah, I often feel like he's trying so hard to be neutral that he's ignoring things that are blatantly bad for the CW or good for the defense so that he isn't seen as partisan :(

    • @dizzee5768
      @dizzee5768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-c3202 💯

  • @podunkcitizen2562
    @podunkcitizen2562 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    At the end of the snippet with Lally and the M.E. when he asks, "can I take a moment your honor?" I can imagine him saying, "Can I have a moment, your honor, to rethink my life choices"?

  • @jonquilskye5908
    @jonquilskye5908 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    I really liked Dr. Russell, so I was sad to see so many people saying she was not a good expert witness and basically trying to tear her down. For me, she and Lucky were the best two witnesses in the entire trial. They were both very respectable and polite and they stood up very well against Lally's attempts to discredit or impeach them.

    • @cwynn211
      @cwynn211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Dr Russell is my spirit animal she is an amazingly smart woman.

    • @stephjovis3469
      @stephjovis3469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I can't imagine who says that. She's amazing

    • @cwynn211
      @cwynn211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stephjovis3469 people who are mad that a real expert offered her expertise to help and do the right for the defense

    • @KensCounselingCouch
      @KensCounselingCouch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@stephjovis3469surprisingly a decent amount of people on Twitter, not as many on TH-cam it seems
      I've run across people calling biomechanics and human factors a "pseudoscience". It's crazy how many people are so dug into the Commonwealth's narrative of this case.

    • @stephjovis3469
      @stephjovis3469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@KensCounselingCouch must be agist.

  • @DocTJB
    @DocTJB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    With you on the Lucky love❤️ And Dr. Russell is a bada$$!

  • @pamgallagher9778
    @pamgallagher9778 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First time commenting from Chicago and I am 78! I enjoy you and Emily so much and watched every hour of this trial. I feel KR was framed, and no one pays for my opinion. I must comment on the drinking and driving. I grew up with that and know the trauma of the alcohol rants and domestic violence. I am concerned for ALL their children. Choices & consequences. Adult Children support groups help with healing and forgiveness. ❤❤❤❤

  • @DAISYCHEWYandME
    @DAISYCHEWYandME 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Loved Lucky on the stand. Such personal integrity

  • @E-magineMySurprise
    @E-magineMySurprise 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lally questioning Lucky reminds me of The Bee Movie cartoon when the bee keeps flying into the window, saying, "This time. This time. This time," with each headlong crash.
    No, Lally not this time. You're not going to bully this witness into a different answer.

  • @jackielinde7568
    @jackielinde7568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    With as honest the ME has been to the detriment of the State's case, I'm hoping the state doesn't try to rehome the ME.

    • @karmennash7479
      @karmennash7479 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Birds of a feather all the way up the chain in MA so worried for her but she’ll land well - she’s honest, straight, integrity!

    • @dragonfishxx
      @dragonfishxx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm direct it seemed like she was trying hard to say things in a way that she was expected to say them. She seemed almost pained. I worry she's worried for her job. She seemed so relieved on cross.

  • @phonepoies
    @phonepoies 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Now that this thing is moving towards closure, I'm really getting interested in that federal procedure.

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know. I'm dying to know what they investigated, what they found out, and what they're going to do about it.

  • @Amarianee
    @Amarianee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    1:12:47 I'm sorry, did that man just call Officer O'Keefe's facial injuries "small"???? Omg. This is the trial that just doesn't stop giving insanity.

  • @katherinedinwiddie4526
    @katherinedinwiddie4526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Best wishes to you Runkle. Peace and Love to Captain Kori.

  • @hope7144
    @hope7144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Precious Captain Korey is perfect example of how life is NOT FAIR !💔

  • @KateHannon
    @KateHannon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I want Kathy Bates to play Dr Russell in the movie.

    • @LindaCapra
      @LindaCapra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That is who I thought too! Then for the last one I thought of Steve Martin, even though their body size differs.

    • @wonder5487
      @wonder5487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LindaCapra A cross between Steve Martin and Charles Durning.

    • @LindaCapra
      @LindaCapra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wonder5487 Yes I agree, Charles Durning has the face shape more. I looked him up in IMDB and I knew I had seen him before. I had to go back to the movie One Fine Day.

  • @May-or-May-not
    @May-or-May-not 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I cannot imagine they find her guilty. This whole trial has been a shit show.

  • @Jinxclemans
    @Jinxclemans 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    OMG! Hearing you and Rob laugh so much on FNF!!! That made my day 😂❤

    • @karmennash7479
      @karmennash7479 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So agree. I watch Runkle for the real laughter. Contagious!!!!

  • @rachelann9362
    @rachelann9362 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Using Ms Little was a GREAT choice for the medical examiner. She wasn’t going to sound like she was bullying her. Judge Bev is more neutral on her since she barely did any Crosses (I believe she’s got a ton more experience with investigation, research, and writing motions) in this case, so she hasn’t pushed Bev any. It worked out. The ME was more comfortable with her

  • @silvermoonbaby5622
    @silvermoonbaby5622 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Courtroom insiders said that the jury was not taking notes during the CW tech experts but they were taking notes during Rick Green's testimony.

    • @sandrah0330
      @sandrah0330 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Once I heard Kerry say Karen said John was dead I wouldn't need to take anymore notes. Karen knew she hit him.

  • @kezzen3930
    @kezzen3930 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I really strongly, dislike the way Lally tried to mess with Lucky, it was tricky and dishonest. He also misstated what witnesses actually said many times. So far his cross has just made me hope he finds himself a part in the investigation done by the FBI because he borders on unethical at times. Bev though is a master of walking the bias line, just makes me think she has been at it longer and is better at it .

  • @serenetiv
    @serenetiv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "There would be records in the police lockup" Runkle! We're talking about Canton PD here, there would be no logs...

  • @Bob_Weir617
    @Bob_Weir617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Funny how Higgins Jeep no longer fits their narrative so 💨 POOF it just disappeared even though they all said early on that Higgins was there. Now their unintelligent experts reconstruction has her backing up through his jeep😂😂😂

  • @Ideadelight
    @Ideadelight 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Replay crew - I just want to see your commentary Ian. You are very funny. Ian close to 300,000!!!!
    Closing will be Jackson but I would prefer Yannetti. What a day!!!
    Ian - when Lally gets on please put it up to the highest number you can. Thank goodness this is done.

  • @nancykorensek4083
    @nancykorensek4083 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Around these parts, a car left on the road during a blizzard might be found buried under a snowpile.

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger3335 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Spontaneous deletion" is not a real term used. It's just some bs that Lally made up to sound fancy. But what that is referring to is that as you make phone calls, those calls are saved in a log. That log goes back something like 2 years. If you were to look at the call history on your phone, you could scroll through it until you finally get to the end. But eventually, the log list gets full. So, that's when your phone begins deleting the oldest call first to make room for the newest call you make. If your list is full, and you make a phone call. That new call will be stored by deleting the oldest possible call you made however long ago.

  • @ColFlustered
    @ColFlustered 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did anyone else notice that Matt McCabe couldn't read a text exhange with the courtroom lights on, but Richard Green can read a document with the lights dimmed so jurors can see it on the screen.

  • @paigemprice
    @paigemprice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Dr Green was the only guy I understood, the CW experts told me nothing

  • @marthab7059
    @marthab7059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will now pay attention to makes of cars and their corresponding tail lights! Could need that info in the future….

  • @theresabarba3174
    @theresabarba3174 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've been bitten by a large German shepherd. I was 6 at the time, and the dog went for my throat. Thankfully, it only managed to bite my ear, but it did tear it, and i required stitches. The reason it only bit my ear and was unable to grab hold of my throat was because i saw it coming and i moved just in time.

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's a big aspect of this. John was no doubt trying to stop the dog from biting. And it's entirely possible someone even stepped in and tried to stop the dog.
      I think there was an altercation that the dog got involved in, but I don't think any of them set out to kill him at that point.

  • @lboutard
    @lboutard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Runkle you are just a truly kind soul. When you teared up over Captain Cory I lost it!! I loved what JD did for him and I watched every video of his. Cory is a true hero always looking out for his family before his own. JD bought him a gaming console with all the fixins but Cory asked for his mom to get a new one and ended up getting both. On a different note! I wanted to say what I think happened. I think O’Keefe got attacked by the Alberts dog in the basement and because O’Keefe was drinking a lot he may have lost his footing and fell back hitting his head. That’s why the Alberts fought so hard to make sure no one came in the house to check it. They redid the floor and moved! These are my thoughts what do you think?

  • @shazstar13
    @shazstar13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I would have asked “Hypothetically doctor, if I was the lead investigator on this case and came to you and said we have three possible theories we’re pursuing & could use your expertise to assist us in which more closely aligns with his injuries so we know which investigation to follow. One: Officer O’Keefe was hit by a rapidly reversing car - whether accidentally or intentionally - and left in the path of the approaching storm. Two: Officer O’Keefe was assaulted by one or more individuals & one or more animals, then left or placed in the storm. Three: Officer O’Keefe slipped & fell on icy ground - possibly multiple times - resulting in his being unconscious in the storm where an animal happened upon his body. Using your decades of experience determining manner of death & seeing similar injuries on others, which investigation path would you recommend us to pursue?”
    If I was a juror, and Lally suddenly found he could speak clearly, loudly and at speed, after spending almost a month stumbling, adding unnecessary words, and having to be reminded at least every 30mins to speak up, I’d be so freakin’ furious. It was clearly an intentional choice.

    • @avp6730
      @avp6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      😂 A lot of people are angry that Lally is yelling but I'm just glad i can finally hear clearly what he's ssying after all the mumbling

    • @cwynn211
      @cwynn211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Lally pissed me off he is so rude on cross, it’s a miracle as soon as he said the state rests his BALLS dropped and got some bass in his voice.

    • @avp6730
      @avp6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@cwynn211 he's desperate to stop the witnesses from saying more than he wants.. It doesn't seem rude to me, just desperate

    • @cwynn211
      @cwynn211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I’m tired of hearing his meandering and terrible questions. I still have no clue why we even made it to trial with this “evidence”

    • @avp6730
      @avp6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cwynn211 nobody knows😫

  • @Slothlife67
    @Slothlife67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Replay & now notice just how much the ME perks up, smiles, and is far more engaged in cross than direct, that just puts the nail in the CW case for me.

  • @lexybaginsky
    @lexybaginsky 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am very sorry you have to wade through the poop. I hope it clears up soon.
    Love from Germany
    Re the camera in trial: yes they didn't show the pictures but instead of the witness they showed the victim's brother and that is so despicable!!

  • @Songbirdstress
    @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Actually Dr BA Grandma has been consulting off autopsy photos for 35 years, so we could say she's an expert in that....
    All Lally proved with the dog dentistry stuff is she probably knew about the bad science stuff BEFORE the article. would be hilarious if her work were quoted in the study lol.
    I bet she would have said it looked just like what K9s are trained to do, now where do we have cops and police dogs....?
    Lally is talking about "a report". How would she know if she read it or not? Which report? Can you show me, because it's not clear to me.

    • @kezzen3930
      @kezzen3930 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think she would’ve said it doesn’t look like a trained dog.
      Trained dogs are taught to bite and hold, this is something that does much more damage generally. Incidentally it’s what dogs often fail training for. The majority of canines prefer to bite release and rebite, this is what the arm pattern shows more, shallow bites that don’t gain as much purchase (especially through clothes) it’s why there are few actual puncture marks and more scraping type marks. Only the pointy, thinner elbow shows a pattern that points to more too a 2 jaw hold at all. The rest all look like top teeth scraping down the arm.
      It looks more like a domestic or maybe part trained dog. Wild dogs more likely to rip and tare because they might mistake us for food, domestic dogs want to scare us rather than eat us. Trained dogs are trained to bite and hold a suspect on limb if possible till their partner can get there.
      Sorry I’m a nerd about dog bites and training cause my dog is large and reactive so it’s taken ages to get him to be a good canine citizen.

    • @Inaconstantlychangingworld24
      @Inaconstantlychangingworld24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was a human bite article. Chloe was a rejected police dog so makes sense she did complete a police bite and it was lighter

    • @kezzen3930
      @kezzen3930 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Inaconstantlychangingworld24 I’m not sure if they proved that in trial, I think the story that came out was she was a rescue, but yes either way it fits what we are seeing here. Other than that I totally agree about the pointlessness of the odontology article. I’m trying hard to stick to what the jury would hear generally and I guess it’s Lally style plus my own interest in bites that makes this all so frustrating. The jury won’t get to hear anything but what they hear and his dishonesty feels like he is skewing the trial rather than honestly trying to catch the real culprits here. (I’m watching from Australia so it’s easier to be unaware of other sources of information too.)

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Inaconstantlychangingworld24 Just showed how nasty Lally was. Dr BA Gdma should have said, "they publish 30 articles a year, please can you show me the one you're referring to?"

  • @bluj5917
    @bluj5917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have to lean more on the side of Richard green since he did a complete analysis and the fact the he used the EXACT IOS that was used and the exact phone

  • @special_kitty7195
    @special_kitty7195 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think miss little did a good job. She sounds like shes incredible young but she did good

  • @hope7144
    @hope7144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Uncle Runkle !!!!! Love your commentary !!!

  • @avp6730
    @avp6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've seen comments that are anti-Read and the people just build theories that have nothing to do with the prosecution's case. It's so crazy.

  • @madeline3868
    @madeline3868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucky is a breathe of fresh air because he isn’t trying to to argue with who ever is asking him the questions.

  • @eggplanthose
    @eggplanthose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry to hear about your troubles with a vexatious litigant. I'm also currently being sued in Ontario. The plaintiff in my case was declared a vexatious litigant at the HRT and has had their licence to practice law suspended. I don't want to provide more details but I can understand the frustrations of defending a case that shouldn't exist at all.

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good luck to you!

  • @MichelleSanGiorgio
    @MichelleSanGiorgio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks, Ian....I'm on the catch-up. Great hearing your opinions. Go well.

  • @cwynn211
    @cwynn211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Captain Kori did more for people in his short than most do in a life time some of us never met him but love him. Fair winds and calm seas capt

  • @matthewmarshall349
    @matthewmarshall349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I live in the deep South in the US. There have been times when the AC was needed during our "winter."

    • @crystalfarmer4074
      @crystalfarmer4074 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts! I'm in Georgia and have used the AC in December, January, February. I hate we don't really get much if any winter weather anymore.

    • @matthewmarshall349
      @matthewmarshall349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Drives me crazy in early spring from needing heat overnight and AC by mid morning.

  • @jackielinde7568
    @jackielinde7568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:00:00 - In Lally's questioning of Grandma, I think the concept that Lally's desperately trying to avoid regarding the kinds and types of dog bites that Grandma would have seen in the ER is a form of survivorship bias/reverse survivorship bias. In this case, the bias is towards those dog bites that require the skills of an ER to treat and cannot be treated by the average person at home. Those would be the worst-of-the-worst, and would trend towards untrained dog attacks versus trained/professional dog attacks (i.e. Police dogs).

  • @PharaohAutem
    @PharaohAutem 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    On replay crew here! I was mauled in the face by a wolf-malamute mix when I was a child (I was 5 years old). I had significant injuries. Some of those included scratches and punctures that resembled what was on JO’s arm. I had been knocked down and yes I had scratches and they were on my neck, chest, and arms. I VERY MUCH remember seeing the puncture and tear marks, and there were also photos.
    I personally do believe this is a case with an aggressive animal involved but I could be wrong. I wouldn’t be able to vote guilty aside from this one issue, there are so many questions still.

  • @christinar2039
    @christinar2039 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I laughed so hard at the wild hog suggestion and subsequent story.

  • @Shells84
    @Shells84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Wow this channel seems extra polite after just being on Turtleboys stream. Both good. Just different lol 😂

    • @cwynn211
      @cwynn211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Night and day lol both are fighting for truth they just have way different “styles” lmao

    • @PhoebeMc
      @PhoebeMc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, Turtleboy's colorful. It takes a certain personality to want to hear all that & I don't. I'm glad he's dug all this up & brought everyone's attention to it. At the same time, I'm sorry he's been attacked for witness intimidation cause that's gross! They went after many people just for being friends with Aiden, seriously harassing people who did nothing wrong. I believe they'll drop all this after this trial because they don't have a case. Witness intimidation of Brian Albert? He's scared of Turtleboy? That's seriously stupid and I can still hear Jen McCabe at her TRO hearing begging, "can't you make him stop blogging about me?" She's such a pc of work! It's disgusting!!!

  • @AyNakoAlloyHaloHalo-jb9yg
    @AyNakoAlloyHaloHalo-jb9yg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If only he called the car in, I wonder what would be different.

  • @shadowmatrx
    @shadowmatrx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😂😅 I used to date a military guy who lived w/roomates who were also all military. We walked in one day and my guy was like, "C! What're u doin ma?!" I was behind my guy & didn't see C right away. I heard him say, "Sarg said I have to fix my hat." My guy started laughing and C said a choice swear word. I peaked around my guy and C had a hat in one hand (standard green camo) and an orange highlighter in the other. My guy was like, " dude, your marker is orange." Apparently, they liked to refresh their hat colors with sharpees if they were otherwise in good condition to put off replacing them. As we walked away, my guy told me that C is colorblind, only sees in shades of gray, and his job in the military was to sit in front of a giant console, monitor it, & keep a record of flashing lights. None of the roommates were sure if he had like been punked. But, C taped letters and numbers to the console and created a system for recording the things he needed to, so, it was fine. I don't think I'll ever forget Cs face when my guy told him the marker was orange tho. And they sure teased him a lot (bc why didn't he notice it was a highlighter lol).

  • @doninis1354
    @doninis1354 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    😮poeple are weard. Hope you are safe Ian. Why? Is that, becouse of jalousy? Ahoi Kaptain, we think of you. 💙 I really hope this is never going to trial.
    The Karen Read trial never should have gone neither.
    ❔❔Question: What happens after KRs verdict is innosence with a ton of resonable doub...is there any way to convict the real perpetrator or what was really happening? All the evidence is trash and all state expert were garbitsh and nothin is done proberly❔❔

    • @-c3202
      @-c3202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The cops and DA would have to chose to arrest and prosecute someone else which, lbr, they won't. There's always a possibility the feds might on something like conspiracy but, again, I won't hold my breath

  • @martac3749
    @martac3749 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My brother got bit by a dog.
    Dog was sleeping on his side, my brother (he was a child then) pulled him by his paws, wanting to wake him up. Dog woke up, and as my brother was bend over the dog, the first available thing was his face. Dog grabbed him by his face, both chicks (top teeth on one cheek, bottom on the other), he sustained very similar patterns as in the picture of John's arm, just not as many. Dog had ability to grab his arms, legs, shoulders, neck, but didn't bite anywhere else just the face.
    So the representation by lally that you would expect more parts of the body get bitten is blatantly false for most domestic dog bites.

  • @ivanbanda559
    @ivanbanda559 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    good job bro, haters gonna hate, keep doing your thiing. much appreciate your insight

  • @Amarianee
    @Amarianee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I've come to the point where I think there was an altercation, the dog got worked up from said altercation, lunged at John, he lost his footing and hit his head. They all panicked, because they're drunk and cops at a cop's house, Karen and John were already fighting, and now we're here.

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is my theory.

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is my theory too.

    • @avp6730
      @avp6730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm inclined to believe that but what bothers me is how he got on the lawn. Carrying a man that big would leave some marks on him I think.

    • @legolesscheese-wheel69
      @legolesscheese-wheel69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      this is also my theory but I can't get past a bunch of normal people taking a guy who is alive but injured and agreeing to let him die in the snow. Cos he died of hypothermia, so he was alive when he was put there. And then everyone agreeing to say he never came in the house and agreeing to the whole cover up. It seems like a lot. But there's no way he was hit by a car, those injuries just don't fit

    • @LydRitz
      @LydRitz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@legolesscheese-wheel69I get that, but I could see from their point of view that they would be worried that if he lived he would be able to say what happened and it would “ruin” the family. And if he was already unconscious and they weren’t 100% sure he was dead, that would be a way to finish the job without further suspicion for them.

  • @LadyFDD
    @LadyFDD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @kitgacey great super chat on Broken Baker, that lawyer analysis was spot on with the temporal lobe injuries

  • @melp8175
    @melp8175 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thx Ian from Oregon 🎉🎉

  • @musicianswife8596
    @musicianswife8596 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how judge Bev’s while voice is still vaguely annoyed but she’s nicer to Ms. Little.

  • @Jendrew6014
    @Jendrew6014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Replay crew here - Runkle, I will ALWAYS wait for your stream (and a couple others)!!
    Holy cow, had no clue the crap with a “fan” was getting so bad…#sigh, I’m sorry people are crazy.
    Keep kicking butt!!!

  • @LydRitz
    @LydRitz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish Dr. Russell had explained the teardrop shapes and the bit-and-pull bite marks! Maybe she should’ve been up longer.

  • @sheri4359
    @sheri4359 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m curious if the defense can recall Badass Gma to clarify the confusion Lally tried to cause with the misleading dog article nonsense?

    • @Songbirdstress
      @Songbirdstress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Weird or what, jury now knows there's police dog bite problems in Canton and Lally doesn't want it mentioned. Also he doesn't want police dog training mentioned by a lady who treated police dog injuries and literally wrote the book, well article. In a house full of cops and....a German shepherd...with injuries any pet owner recognised day 1. Lally brought out way more than the defence.

    • @LindaCapra
      @LindaCapra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you think Lally found anyone to challenge her expert testimony? I can’t imagine that it would be easy to find.

    • @sheri4359
      @sheri4359 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LindaCapra I agree with you. I think he will have a hard time finding anyone who is even half as qualified as she is. Plus even if he finds someone he’s got to get them to challenge her expert opinion. I don’t know if that person even exists.

    • @xeviphract5894
      @xeviphract5894 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LindaCapra I'm imagining anyone Lally finds will only be an expert, because they read this lady's research.
      Seems Lally just wants to know about matching the bite mark to an individual dog, because there is conveniently no longer a dog to match it to.

    • @Playlist-yz8de
      @Playlist-yz8de 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sheri4359Did you see the accident reconstruction expert? Lally would put a 12 year old on the stand as an “expert” to refute this testimony.

  • @captainbeatty
    @captainbeatty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does Lucky remind anyone else of the photographer from the Rittenhouse trial? Polite, earnest, detail-oriented, possibly on the spectrum (and I'm saying that as someone on said spectrum)…and apparently very strongly disliked/looked down upon by the prosecution.

  • @tiffany.Elizabeth.
    @tiffany.Elizabeth. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I went back and rewatched Jen McCabes testimony last night since we have much more context now.
    I actually believe that the texts were placed later. I don’t think she knew what happened at the time but was very quick to help manage the story

  • @madeline3868
    @madeline3868 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The suspected dog bites on John’s arm aren’t grievous injuries per se. But I have seen similar types of dog bites present to the ER. In this case, it was an ER by the border between two states. You would have people who drive from one state to the other for treatment of non urgent dog bites wounds to avoid getting the authorities involved.

  • @lisabuckley8309
    @lisabuckley8309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No snow at 11.30pm to plough

  • @sirjdog21
    @sirjdog21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rittenhouse won in part on the motion to dismiss on his gun charge because Binger forgot to ask about the size of the gun

  • @christinericciardi1357
    @christinericciardi1357 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You have a beautiful heart! 🩷✌️

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Runkle is truly a beautiful person.

  • @bestboy1986
    @bestboy1986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Jesus. Hearing "um" so many times from some of these witnesses just kills me. Us Brits (not trying to say we're better in any way!) tend to not add these conversational markers in after almost every word we speak, so its very off-putting to hear it said so many times. It sounds so juvenile!

    • @KateHannon
      @KateHannon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We do. I spent a good deal of time public speaking and training myself to eliminate “um.” It kills me when one slips out. 😂

    • @jborrego2406
      @jborrego2406 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sure u guys have another sound for um.

    • @bestboy1986
      @bestboy1986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jborrego2406 No we use it too, but nowhere near as frequently. We tend to just go silent until the next thought/word comes to us. If it was a ridiculoulsly long pause then we'd of course address that, but it's not usually an issue.

    • @KateHannon
      @KateHannon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bestboy1986 What’s really funny is, after I posted comment, I kept noticing his ums. And, he’s in Canada. 😉

  • @DyslecticAttack
    @DyslecticAttack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the only thing I took away from Lally's cross of Dr. Russell is that Lally wants to hide the ball.
    The deep sighhs before the answer of "No, but..." that immediately get cut off, and the refusal to acknowledge the disclaimer before arguing data that the disclaimer is pertaining to gives me shady vibes.
    It's clear that Dr. Russell doesn't agree with parts of the questions in a "that's the wrong question to ask" way. And the refusal to let experts answer always rubs me the wrong way. There's ways to point out that responses don't answer the question, there are ways to preface that you want a short answer.

  • @caspersroom
    @caspersroom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    WTF on that guy who made the complaint about you! How can he drag Pixi and Captian Kori into this? 🙀😡 What a jerk!! 👿 And, Captain Kori's headstone is so beautiful. Pixi came up with such a gorgeous design for it. It looks fabulous. 🥰 love the Kori Swoop! 🦜🏴‍☠🦜🏴‍☠🦜🏴‍☠

  • @CarrieMK
    @CarrieMK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m just waiting to see if the, The Commonwealth found even more tail light pieces. (I’m several days behind)

  • @stephjovis3469
    @stephjovis3469 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    If others had to wear powdered wigs, would Runkle be exampt bc his hair already looks a lot like their wigs? Just better

  • @mouse589c5
    @mouse589c5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The ME saw Proctor's testimony. Any leeway or ambiguity she compromised to put in her testimony went out the window. She was never going to lie but she may have been pressured into slanting her evidence. Not after Proctor

  • @Khahtt13
    @Khahtt13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Replay crew as my Saturday D&D game started at the same time as this did. Very interesting to listen to while doing errands and the like today.

  • @ultracurious
    @ultracurious 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea of you or Rob even hoping someone gets a paper cut is so absurd it's laughable. Sorry to hear that you've been saddled with this insanity.

  • @pstcroix8552
    @pstcroix8552 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The motion to Direct verdict/dismiss also a good opportunity to hear the first draft of prosecution closing arguments?

  • @ippy_fluffy
    @ippy_fluffy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Replay crew checking in - not sure if this can reach admin/mod/runkle but the advert I just got at beginning of stream was for a uk giveaway of a Dyson hair wrap if I fill in a short survey. A quick google shows the site it wants me to go to is full of malware and is a big scam that TH-cam hasn’t acted on yet…. Would hate for anyone to fall for it.

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A channel has absolutely no say in what adverts TH-cam puts on their videos.

  • @bellareppler
    @bellareppler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I been bit by a dog and was only bit on one side and one time

  • @MildredCady
    @MildredCady 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:35:45 there is a road in the region called Chickatawbutt. Between the native population, the English, and the Irish, we have some really interesting names in Massachusetts.

  • @m4anow
    @m4anow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:24:21 Lucky's explaination of how he sees colors is spot on to how I see them.

  • @hala9175
    @hala9175 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Balls!🤍

  • @femmedandy
    @femmedandy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as someone with bpd, i really appreciate you

  • @chesneymigl4538
    @chesneymigl4538 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh no! They drug Corey into this BS?!

    • @hnraj9441
      @hnraj9441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RenataKleinRK Either is correct.

  • @xhepa.x
    @xhepa.x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was waiting for the lawyer to ask grandma badass if she ever slept 😂

  • @EricChipko
    @EricChipko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will add. Dr Marie is an expert at dog bites about as much as Mother Theresa is an expert in hospice care in India.

  • @saharaussery6799
    @saharaussery6799 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if there are tears in the arm of JOK's coat from the top and bottom teeth of a dog biting him? Hmm...we will never know because somehow his coat seems to have disappeared...?

    • @mummyevans2
      @mummyevans2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He wasn't wearing a coat. There were however holes in his sweatshirt

  • @BigOldGrizzly2
    @BigOldGrizzly2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didnt see this in any of the other comments, but did any of the pictures confirm that Lucky had to go around a vehicle on his second, and on that street, last pass? You would think there would be a car shaped ridge of snow.

  • @hope7144
    @hope7144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh No! So sorry this is happening to you! This person sounds like a Whack Job (no pun intended from trial)

  • @XyloGirl
    @XyloGirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a dog bite. 1 upper 1 lower puncture on my knee

  • @MildredCady
    @MildredCady 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    34:44 this sort of testimony is why Lally put her last I think. Because if this had come earlier in the process, it be very, very hard to get around it when witnesses like proctor on the stand.
    And Lally couldn’t afford the backlash of not calling her at all.

  • @effy_kujo
    @effy_kujo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the way you handle trolls. No fvcks given 🙌🏻

  • @GenXGamerGirl
    @GenXGamerGirl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am trying to find the Microdots' videos on the plow view? It isn't on their youtube channel.