Karen Read Trial Recaps: Day 26
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- So, we have proof of a murder now... but it was the brutal murder of Trooper Paul, who got slaughtered on cross. Alan Jackson's cross-examination was like watching Mike Tyson boxing a watermelon. So, let's talk about it.
Bring snacks and your favourite drink.
My conspiracy theory is that all the bald guys shaved their heads, so they could testify and then grow it out and not be recognizable to the public that watched the trial! It’s a bald disguise!
🤣😂🤪😝 think this is my fave comment ever on this joke of a trial
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LOL that actually makes so much sense!
Lol yes... and 99 percent of women in Massachusetts have dark brown hair...must be the snow
Sounds legit.
The jury has been jurors longer than this guy's been an expert 😅
At least longer than he trained to be that expert!
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Omfg 😂😂 this comment
You win today's Internet 🏆
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This is pathetic. A woman's future is at stake
They do not seem to care a man is dead and a woman's life is on the line. So they manufacture evidence to fit the lie. Its discussing.
Everything I started to feel sorry for him, I remember the whole point he is there. And think of all the other investigations and convictions that are now questionable
💯 and that’s why no one should feel sorry for this guy
This guy is a LUMP😑
and yet this is the best they could do
This entire cross examination was the embodiment of the meme "Knowing your shit vs. knowing you're shit"
And Paul doesn’t know either one.
"There was no evidence that he landed or rolled."
Sir, is he still in the air today? LMFAO
I was laughing so hard at that. Then felt terrible because none of this should be funny!
30 feet Pirhouette 😂
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@@bridgett039yesssss😂❤😂 no evidence he landed ahahaha
To anyone who says they feel bad for this balloon knot remember that he is working to put a person in jail for life. He doesn't deserve your sympathy. This man is evil. He may be incompetent. He may have been threatened with his career or something else. He may be just unintelligent. But, at the end of the day he is evil.
You are absolutely right …he deserves no sympathy !!! He certainly deserves contempt
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Instead of doing his actual job he has tried to write a narrative that says it must be her. I can't believe the dog didn't bark before attacking and the Alberts didn't hear her. There was a juvenile GSD in my neighborhood but it had a full-grown bark!
I think prior to this, he genuinely thought his classes made him an expert. I hope he realizes that he is not competent enough to conclude anything. What scares me more than this trial is how many people are in prison because of him testifying to analysis results or being the “expert” analysis that caused someone to plead guilty to avoid a worse charge even though they were innocent????
Steve Kelsey: best comment of the day. Wish I could give it two likes.
Re Jackson:
"Alan is a veteran of the U.S. Air Force, where he served honorably as a jet engine mechanic. He is also an adjunct professor of law at Pepperdine University Law School and Loyola Law School."
"Alan Jackson is one of the country’s most sought-after criminal defense attorneys. He has tried more than 85 cases to jury verdict with a career success rate of 96 percent, and was named one of California’s Top 100 Lawyers"
Oft! A success rate of 96%. Wow
I read this as "where he served honorably as a jet engine" and was both confused and impressed
@dielotosblum that's why he wanted to know about the impact causing John to fly 30ft, Jackson's looking out for the other jets out there.
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@@dielotosblum That made me chuckle 😃
And he doesn't just have to make sure that the law was followed here - which is a worthy thing to do - he has an actual innocent client that NEEDS his skills. That must feel good for him!
One of Trooper Paul's best answers yesterday:
The question was asked "were you ABLE to..." and the answer as to why they were not ABLE to do a recreation of the backup visibility using the same conditions (darkness being one of the conditions) is the following bullsh*t non-answer:
Lally: Now, as far as the visibility analysis, typically would you be looking to, a, recreate as close as you can to the conditions at the time that the collision occurred?
Trooper Paul: In most typical cases, yes.
Lally: And why were you not able to um, were you able to do that in this case?
Trooper Paul: We were not.
Lally: And why?
Trooper Paul: umm... do there was most of what you said what I say but it's mostly done when we're trying to see what a pedestrian would an operator would see a pedestrian, umm, its mostly done because it's an accident but not at times when it's a, like an intentional act we don't, we don't, visibility is not an issue, in this situation, we were just more, we wanted to make sure that the cameras worked and the backup sensors all worked in the vehicle.
Note: I had to listen to Trooper Paul's response several times at half speed in order to get what he actually said in this lengthy, nonsensical response. What a nightmare for the court reporter.
Certainly very patient, to provide transcript of Trooper Paul.
Then he thought he could read his book." .on Dec 12 1933, it was discovered, a death,.
It was Snowing, roads covered, traveling 24h in reverse...for 60 ft,
No roadway or environmental factors...Deny the Snow...
I'm done...
Coached or clueless. Doesn't know...just told by cops where body was, etc.
That made my head hurt. I had to read the typed response above 3.5 times to understand it...and I still don't understand it. I couldn't understand 90% of his testimony when he was saying it, so I doubt I'll understand it typed it lol
Clarence
When is court reporter going to walk in with a WTF t-shirt.
@@kneeloeyesun agree
That the CW expect the jury to swallow the theory a man can be hit on the arm by a reversing car and fly/roll 30 feet without any broken bones, or injuries to his torso, is insulting to peoples intelligence
Absolutely! I’m outraged!!
Not just that he was hit on the arm and flew through the air, that after his elbow of steel cracked the tail light, on his way down, he scraped his arm up all over the broken tail light! In what world!
My husband and I watched this and he turned to me and said "Is this guy claiming the guy died from getting it in the elbow?!!" 😂
Let this sink in: experts hired by the FBI to investigate this case are testifying for the defence, not the commonwealth.
Think about that for a second.....
"There's tons of ways you can calculate momentum."
This dude went to the scene and just said "Yea looks like he mighta went fyin on ova thehhh" and didn't even compare the height of the cars.😂😂
He didn't even know JOK's weight!
"There's so many ways to do this thing we didn't do because we weren't actually investigating anything so much as fabricating evidence -- but trust us, it's very complicated and you are now very impressed by my professional baldness."
The O'Keefe family needs to do a mega press conference after this is all over and demand answers from the attorney general on why this case was handled the way it was from the very start all the way to the court case the prosecutor put on.
The crime scene told him. Jackson literally had me rolling when he said “Did the crime scene tell you anything else?” 😂😂💀
My favorite part was when asked about how John’s cellphone got under his body, he said something like “I don’t know it just is what it is. It’s just there and that’s what it is.” Flabbergasted.
Ouch!
It's so sad that this case was not investigated properly
At another point, I think it was talking about the broken glass cup getting near the body he said "I don't know, I wasn't there" ! WHAT?
This buffoonery deserves the direct quote, which is, “It just did.”
@wonder5487 omg! Yes, I forgot about that. There’s just….way too many moments about this trial that are unreal beyond constantly wondering “what is the case?”
This is like the kid in school who copied homework and never understood anything.
It really is but this involves a victim and a potential prison sentence for a defendant. Just gross.
Add his parents and peers believing he did it himself and insisting he is a genius...
And we get this fool. I hope he was drunk lol
yessssssss
The accident reconstructionist doesn't ask questions of his data that a scientist would ask. This is a clusterfuck of an investigation
At this point, I don't even think we could call it an investigation. It was a lot of supposition and premade conclusions with so called evidence only sought to confirm those biased opinions. That's not an INVESTIGATION!
and when Alan Jackson asks “if you knew this pertinent data, would it change your analysis” and he says no even though by definition it would change bare minimum the calculation values, then you know he knows fuck all about what he’s talking about. At least when they asked the retrograde BAC guy if his data input was wrong, would it change his analysis conclusion he said yes, cause obviously it would.
I know in my state you need 1,500 hrs and pass both a practical and written exam to be a stylist.
What it looks like when you figure out you've sold your soul, and are sacrificed on the stand.
I swore he was going to cry.
He may have not even been aware of all that.
00:00:00 Intro (also, bring the popcorn, and saddle up!) 🍿
00:07:50 Direct examination of Trooper Paul (car accident reconstructionist) continues
00:30:30 A Runkle-rant about what it took Trooper Paul to become an expert
00:37:00 The Cross “extermination” of Trooper Paul begins (by Alan Jackson)
01:55:30 A Runkle-rant about the harm done by experts testifying about stuff they don't know
02:40:00 3-point turn, or U-turn? Now, what is the difference . . .
02:48:50 Key cycles v. Ignition cycles
03:12:00 How Trooper Paul calculated what happened to John O’Keefe
03:47:00 Us Europeans may have flashes of Italian fotballplayers 😉 (that is soccer for you Americans)
03:49:00 Re-“animation(?)” of Trooper Paul
04:09:00 Re -cross
04:14:00 Re-re-direct
04:15:00 Testimony by Ian Whiffin - Cellebrite expert
04:19:20 Direct examination of Trooper Nicholas Guarino. Hot mike, and aaaall the text messages
Replay crew, will add timestamps as I watch
Just Breathe
thanks for this.
The level of incompetence by these so called investigators has reached a level of ineptitude that I can’t comprehend! I am OUTRAGED! He understands NOTHING about how to do his job! Absolutely pathetic!
The trooper isn't very bright in his field but he's got a bald head so he's in the club.
Shell game.
never met a man whose hairdo matches his brain so perfectly before
Someone else during a live commentary likened him to a grownup Caillou.
@@wonder5487 Omg, that's such an incredibly harsh criticism to put against someone, and also it FITS. 😬
“Learning to read as an adult is very difficult.” 😂
Trooper Paul, the accident reconstruction hobbyist, had me screaming at the screen when I watched live on EDB. Hearing him say he didn't have the formula for the accident blew my mind. Before I made the change to being a chef, I was in computers. I studied math very heavily. We did the math he says he couldn't. It isn't the easiest in the world, but it's not impossible. We even constructed the kind of formulas he said he needed. It's all vector math. He should have had an entire set of fans showing the possible range of locations John's body could have landed. Maybe if he had any background in math or physics, he would know that. Even if no one had ever created the formulas for him to begin with, creating a new one is how you get your name remembered forever. He should have smiled at the challenge and made the formulas he needs.
But nope, in a dead cop case, he just didn't.
That's what makes me sure Karen didn't do it. If she did, they would've pulled out all the stops in this investigation. Instead, they were trying to hide what really happened and twist the evidence to make it point to her, even if it didn't make any sense.
You know if Karen had really hit him and there was evidence of that, the state police would've pulled their best reconstructionist and put him on the case. Instead, the physics don't work and nobody was willing to risk their career by associating themselves with such poor work. All they were left with the only guy bad enough at his job to agree to put his name on this farce.
I think they resented him because she ghosted Mr Snowplow.
When he couldn't read his report it looked like he was about to cry
I noticed that too, Lally should not have put him on the stand.
If he's supposedly worked on hundreds of crashes, how come he has no idea how to testify, thinks he can read his report and go in for pretrial interview, render a new opinion and not give that to the defense. This guy was training someone else while working on this case!
Did he even write it up or did someone else do it and just told him to sign his name?
If kinematic equations cannot describe side-swipe collisions, we are truly truly effed. How in the world did we send a man to the moon without being able to understand this???
This dude is the moral equivalent to getting an associate's in underwater basket-weaving, spending 150 hours with a fisher-price stethoscope, calling yourself a doctor, and walking into a hospital like "Ok, I'm here to perform open heart surgery!"
And I'm not even against an associate degree. I have a BS from a good school, but it is my associate degree education that's actually paying my bills (and student loans.) Most of my classmates had to spend more than 2-3 years working on pre-requisites for the program. (I didn't, but only because of my BS).
The problem is that.... he kind of meets the requirements for the job. An AA in criminal justice and a little certification is technically the requirement for accident reconstructionist. But you can get through an AA in criminal justice with just really basic algebra. I don't know how you could study accidents without some fairly advanced physics and calculus. The bigger problem is he has no self awareness. He's dangerous because he doesn't know what he doesn't know.
@@KellieBell Also, the fact that he is so confident in his answers. I get that it's a trial and he's been asked to defend this position but I don't see how you could argue for someone to go to jail when even I can understand beyond a reasonable doubt that what he is saying just couldn't have happened. I don't have any degrees and was awful in geometry (great at algebra though.) If you just cycle through the events in your minds eye with some basic knowledge of how a ball moves when you hit it or how something topples over when you bump into it. Basically life experience. Lol. I just can't with that guy. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.
Alan Jackson was a jet engine mechanic in the US Air Force
Highly technical.
I wonder if Lally knew that, maybe he would of hired a true expert? 🤷🏻♀️
@@libbylibby3611 I don't think a true expert would've come up with a theory that would help the CW. That's why we have this guy, he goes with whatever the state says, no critical thinking or real investigation.
Alan Jackson
Ian, not everyone in Canton is walking around with a cup full of booze... Some have red solo cups with blood droplets. 🤣
"if this guy works really hard and puts in the remaining hours, he could probably function as a service dog"
runkle please 🤣🤣🤣
If you’re having a bad day, just remember trooper Paul’s day
Whenever I get imposter syndrome I'll think if him)
Screw him and the lot of them. Remember not only Karen Read's day and life, but how many other defendants, some of whom are locked up or dead, as a result of this knob and those like him.
@@avp6730😂😂😂
3:21:54 This feels more like an oral exam than a cross examination 😂 Poor Jackson, I bet he didn't expect to have to examine a witness on basic physics today.
Jackson took him to task, showing just how unqualified he was to be making these assessments and assertions.
This is the only 'expert' I've seen who looked like he was about to start crying and give up when he couldn't answer the most basic questions. And that was just during direct. Giving up before cross would have been the best move he could have made.
This as painful to watch the first time, but the second time is even wors.
First, keep in mind Celebrite report clearly indicates a search was made at 2:27 and deleted. So the defense witness is simply supporting/verifying this evidence.
There is an old brainteaser. “If a chicken and a half laid an egg and a half, how much would a pound of butter weigh?” Many people answer, “a pound and a half.”
However, the answer is “1 pound.” A pound of butter will always weigh a pound- nothing can change that fact. The prosecution witnesses say lots of words that are confusing to a jury, but if my understanding is correct, none of it matters.
A Write Ahead Log (.WAL) file is a temporary file that is never updated once it has been flushed to the database. Think of it like a time capsule that has been sealed. If Jen put her search in a time capsule and locked it under ground for eternity, then anything that happens after the fact is irrelevant.
I will give the prosecution possibly one (unhelpful) point. These (WAL) files are “flushed” out at regular intervals. Perhaps every 5 minutes (estimate). But all that means is the search may have been done between 2:22 and 2:27 - either way it’s before the timestamp on the WAL file.
If you want more detail, let me know. There is more to this.
As far as the deletes. Notice how the defense witnesses don’t agree, and both seem confused about the deletes. This is a horse of a different color. I can explain my theory on that as well if you want me to.
Keep in mind, the gold standard Celebrite report supports the defense not the prosecution.
Your theory intrigues me. Pop off, sirrah. I shall return to read it
Jackson is highly educated, a quick thinker and excellent speaker. He also has a very confident demeanour, wears expensive nice looking suits and is self assured. He seems to hold eye contact with witnesses to the point of stare down, and isn’t afraid of confrontation.
All of these things are an EXTREMELY STARK contrast to Trooper Paul.
He also was a jet engine mechanic for the US Air Force, so he had more technical understanding than Paul and knows what physics are.
@@serenetiv completely outmatched
I feel bad for his wife an kids
They will never win a fight lol
My thoughts are that the ‘big guys/bully’s’ in the department knew they could manipulate this guy into favorable testimony. They saw the train coming for him after the EVISCERATION of Proctor, and left him to take a beating. Sympathy because he was expendable, but he had no business on the stand. Deplorable case so far by the prosecution
He's been military. They gain a lot of confidence because they are held to high standards, especially in the USAF.
I have a MS in mathematics. I had to take a calculus based physics class and at the end of the semester I couldn’t sell my book back because I threw it across the room so many times it was destroyed! I made the lowest B possible and still be a B. I was damned proud of that! Having said that, I don’t think I could do accident reconstruction. I could solve the formulas, but writing the formulas may be an issue. lol of course there’s all the typical formulas, but when you get into standard deviations, and stuff like that, it goes over my head. But I do know he didn’t even know the mass of the vehicle or John’s weight and height to figure his mass. he didn’t know the difference between acceleration, velocity, or momentum
Which is just WILD. I've never taken a physics course, my highest level of math is college algebra/pre calculus, and I have two measley associates degrees. I STILL KNOW THAT
I feel you. I have a BS in chemistry and nearly failed out because I didn't realize how much physics was involved. I well earned my D in quantum mechanics! If you want to study chemistry, turns out you should probably major in biology.
You could totally do this guy's job. Just shave your head.
My 13 year old watched the testimony that included the formulas…..he knew the basic formulas involved🤦♀️
I did a BSc in computer science but every science student in ireland had to complete first year the same which is a maths biology chemistry and physics year, just the basics but more indepth than anything on this level, we measured speed of light and learned all about mechanics sound light momentum and newton's laws etc every science student has to pass these exams to get to second year even of ypure doing computer science and maths like me. It's all engineering stuff that always includes these basic laws of physics that are not complex.
@@hollyyoung2850also medical veterinary dental etc all have to do all the sciences as a base. Most subjects in STEM are like a story and the beginning is the same. All science students must know all this stuff or ypu will not understand anything in second year in any science. It's not rocket science well it is I mean, it's not quantum physics. Well, hang on ....wait it is .😂😂❤😂
I would pay money to watch a stream of the two guys the FBI hired, watching Trooper Paul’s testimony
Ohhh!!! And that’s makes me want to go one more level of inception with this. The 2 PhDs from ARCCA give commentary on both days of testimony by Trooper Paul, and then Ian gives commentary about their commentary 😂
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
30 feet is REALLY far and unbelievable. I’m bummed Jackson wasn’t allowed to visually demonstrate that in court. Hopefully the jurors can imagine it themselves
Trooper Paul sounded like a complete idiot. He was "winging it".
He sounded like an expert idiot. Get it right! He took a class and deserves respect.
I think all the "evidence" is them winging it. I don't think they ever thought this would come to trial and their winging it would be subject to examination.
Way out of his league. What a 🤡
Oh. please put “this guy is not a tool…tools are useful” on a T shirt That would be epic
I've watched 120 hrs or more of law tube does that make me a lawyer?😂
No, but you are now qualified to be a Judge in Canton, MA.
@@Playlist-yz8de 🤣🤣
I testify as an expert witness for my job, and I can say that this is at least 95% on Lally for putting this guy up on the stand or being as badly prepped as he is. I don’t want to completely crap on the witness because if he’s told by his supervisors to do something, he’s going to have to do it to keep his job. Also, I know how government jobs and budgets go. If the government is trying to stay within budget and develop internal experts at crappy government salaries, this guy might literally be the best they can do. Also, if there’s been a lot of turnover and have had poor succession planning, they may be developing new experts while the experienced ones have left or retired. Still, Lally should have fully vetted this guy and should have never put him on the stand. I don’t think the witness had any idea what he was going into, and I partially feel for him. (But also, disgusting that you would be willing to put someone in jail over crappy analysis for your career.) The attorneys I work with always tell us in cross prep “, That chair will make you think that you are smarter than you actually are.” They drill into our heads that we need to have identified all of the weaknesses in our testimony and be prepared to respond accordingly to questions. Before we even get to oral testimony, our written testimony goes through extensive review to make sure our analysis is reasonable and as airtight as possible. Then we have hours of cross exampreparation. I know it’s in a different context because my office doesn’t deal with criminal cases, but still, the way the prosecutor clearly has been handling this demonstrates how incompetent and disorganized the Massachusetts DA’s office must be. I’m going to show this to the analysts I mentor as an example of what not to do as a witness.
Sorry for the rant. Btw, I found you through Emily D. Baker and have been hooked on your commentary since the Guitterez-Reed trial. Looking forward to more awesome content in the future.
Welcome to Runkle !
You're insight would be AMAZING guest to discuss witness prep & opinions on clips of publically failed witnesses, like Dr.DOOFENSHMIRTZ in Deppv Heard, Heard's psych doc witness (can't remember her name right now) and each of these MASS "experts" so far.
I would WATCH a LOOOOONG ass video/ or video series with your insight, information AND reaction to other "experts" who failed in public opinion. Maybe it's good cross questions, maybe it's bad witnessing?
He’s been doing it for 8.5 years…
@@williamp6800 Well, then, that does change my opinion on him a little more. I still stand by this being mostly Lally’s fault. He’s the person in charge of legal strategy. He should have been asking this guy all of these questions to gauge how full of crap he was. As an attorney, you need to be able to rely on your experts, but you also need to need to have a healthy enough knowledge of what they’re testifying to so you can call them out on their crap when you’re prepping them. It’s easy just to trust the expert, but in my experience that can lead to the worst outcomes. Experts have a tendency to think they know everything but don’t always think of the legal pitfalls, and it’s up to the attorney to find those holes in their testimony and make sure they cover them. Finally, if it starts becoming apparent that your expert doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about or can’t communicate it effectively, you need to to pull their testimony and find someone else who can do it.
@@KKonTH-cam Thanks. I’ll have to think about that. I’m always nervous about doing things anywhere related to my job on TH-cam because I don’t know how close it gets to possibly not meeting ethics standards. Since I work for the government and a good portion of my training has been with the government, it could be seen as unethical if I make any videos and eventually become monetized from it. Also, I’m a mom to a special needs kid, so work and motherhood can get in the way of making videos on a consistent basis.
The expert who said “☠️Me” 🤯🤦🏼♀️👌🏽🛑
I mean, I can empathize with him, but why are they all so goddamn unprofessional??
Seems like this trial, and Lally is making everyone miserable, can't imagine how the jury feels, having to sit through all of this instead of enjoying the summer!
Trooper Paul is so inept as are most other troopers in this case. Unreal.
Oh good!! This puts us around 107.5 hours of training to become experts 😂 (and thanks to Steve A for calculating the previous 102 hours)
For the record, that's like two and a half weeks of full-time work. And that might be okay for some specialties, but something as involved and multi-faceted as accident reconstruction?! It was just painful to watch
I'm ready to take the bar exam after this trial.
I do love being an expert in everything I've ever fixated on or taken a single class on at university. That's like 10 videogames in the last few years, resincrafting dice, several languages I know all of three sentences in and several ttrpgs, philosophy, art history, Plato (while actively trying to avoid actually reading Plato), english us literature, and niche early 2000s fandom drama
I'm just waiting to get called as a Stardew Valley expert witness
@@bonesonstones1 Yes thats fine for someone thats specialized already, doing an extra course. (Like a chef doing a course on a specific type of cuisine for 2-3 weeks)
Joe Paul looks to me like he spent the weekend panicking after friday and has thought himself into a frenzy, so he's a nervous wreck with Lally. A total blackout with the story he was told to tell xD
Exactly what I thought too.
Yep, I think that's why Jackson went so hard after him in voir dire. Gave him a weekend to think about it and had him before they even started on Monday.
"And im having pasketti for dinner tonight." -Trooper Jo Paul😅
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The definition of kinematics as described by Pooper Paul should be on a t-shirt. "It deals with forward, and it also deals with speed."
Their crash reconstruction guy is Ralph from the Simpson - I work at Cars - they go forward.
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I thought Brian Higgins is Ralph lol.
Damn Runkle, tell us how you REALLY feel. In all seriousness, I am in total agreement with you. This man has no business doing this job, he clearly knows less physics than a high schooler.
Isn't it scary to think that this guy has done "recreations" on about 200 crashes? That's why I have no sympathy for him when he gets taken apart on the stand. He chose to do this job even though being clearly not qualified. He probably put people in jail with his BS.
Also, I keep wondering if it isn't a conflict to have a police officer be the person to do the reconstructions. Where I live those people are independent so they can be objective.
Also also, they need a ton more training than this laughable 120 hour course. You can't even do the training for that job here if you don't have the appropriate education, i.e. an engineering degree in a motor vehicle related field or the equivalent in an automotive trade which is called master. You can take the master exam if you have successfully completed the basic three years of training for the particular trade. It is not necessary but possible and sometimes advisable to also complete a specialized course for this master before taking the exam which is a 900 hour course.
Imagine being in jail or prison based on this idiot’s “scientific” assessments! Outrageous!
He said in another panel she will get two decades!!!so I don't need to watch him!
No for real though. He kept saying things like “It will underestimate it” or “It can’t account for it” and I was like My HS AP Physics teacher would severely disagree. There are equations for everything. It’s a whole ass separate discipline, there are parts for everything SPECIFICALLY for cases like this where we need to know things like this.
Literally. I replayed some of the testimony for my 13 year old….they were shouting the formulas at the screen🤷♀️
I think Mario Andretti is the only person I've ever seen drive straight backwards at 24mph. Anyone else, especially drunk and on ice, would lose control. It seems obvious that the tires were spinning.
I would add road grader operators, as they spend half their professional driving in reverse 🙂. But, yes, there aren't a lot of people who can drive straight backwards with confidence,
"Consistent with" is just another way of saying "this one of many things that can cause this outcome"
Which equals reasonable doubt.
And that's reasonable doubt right there!
No, it's even less than that, "consistent with" says literally nothing about causation. It's like saying "doesn't contradict this outcome". So, me playing fetch with my dog is consistent with John being hit by a car, because it doesn't contradict it.
@@GenuineUntelligence fair enough.
Today on the stand, we had one witness that got murdered and another witness, but wanted to be murdered!
This
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9:25 I think that 191 investigations need to be reexamined!!!!!
YES!
Paul says he passed the accident reconstruction class which has a very low pass rate. What that tells me about the quality of the people taking the test is terrifying. I slept better not knowing people like this were out doing jobs that impact someone else's freedom.
WAIT?!?!?! Jackson's an Engineer? After the proctoring he gave Trooper Proctor, I'm pretty sure he's a certified Proctologist. Is there anything that man can't do? (Besides not sucking? Pretty sure he can't suck.)
He was a jet engine mechanic in the Air Force, not an engineer.
@@RenataKleinRK My father was an ATC Radar Maintenance Technician for the USAF for over two decades. I've seen the stuff my dad studied as part of his job. That's still impressive.
Also, you missed the proctology joke. This makes me sad. :(
I didn’t miss your joke, I just didn’t comment on it, but it was solid.
I'm no brain of Britain, but I did home schooling with my son and this level of physics, kinetics, inertia, maths and algorithms and other intelligent stuff was covered in grade 9. We didn't do polished turd experiments in the curriculum though.
Yank here. Same. Learned this stuff in middle school.
The Prosecution had two main parts of their case. Karen hit him with her car. And she did it because she hates him. Today we learned that not only for John to land where he did, a different car going a different speed would have had to hit him, but that all Karen wanted was to be in a relationship with a man who had cycled through many women before her and would not commit. He would let her feel upset until he needed help with the kids. Is the case over yet? Cause im done here.
I just checked; I had 108 hours of Physics classes in one(!) year of school. Now I'm a graphic designer…and as I write this I start to fear that I'm called to testify based on my extensive knowledge (more that 120 hours of classes! 🤯) and the fact that my info graphics would be really beautiful! 🤣
When this expert says we couldn't use the formulas on this collision, what he means is that the laws of physics can't explain what he says happened. The scientific method would say the guy didn't get thrown 30 feet by a car in reverse, or by any car without broken bones and bruises.
He is assuming it happened the way the cops want, then when his calculations come up with a different scenario, he assumes the calculations are junk.
“He could probably function as a service dog” 🤣
Prob not even that
@@Beth-mi2hfI agree with you. Service dogs have skills.
Physics grad student here. I was screaming into my screen…
My friend, I learned more physics (and math) in middle school than this clown knows.
I sympathize. This man could barely be an usher at the theater.
Right!! This man is pathetic and has ZERO idea wtf he’s doing! If that doesn’t scare you then you aren’t paying attention!
I had a physics professor who was an actual expert witness when it car accidents. I wasn’t a physics major, only took one class as a prerequisite but I desperately wanted to email him for his take on this.
I have to disagree, Runkle. Trooper Paul is far too wobbly to be a shelf.
Its hard to tell the truth when the truth evades you.
He def cried when he got off the stand lol
WAIT? The accident reconstruction expert does know how to reconstruct an accident to include an intact drinking glass as part of the equation? Dude! The whole point is that you don't have to go to the scene to reconstruct the accident. We have mathematical models! You're supposed to know them and use them.
Also, I have a nice collection of barware. How the fuck did that glass survive a 30-to-50-foot violent throw? Even if it didn't come into contact with the SUV and the ground was soft, it would have to be a pretty thick glass to survive the throw.
I love you chat. Somebody said, "Definililly" which killed me, but then someone else said, "I see Adam Sandler playing him in the movie." and I LOST it!!
At least the bowling ball would have understood momentum….
Not only is it How does he get 30 ft away? How does he get hit in the arm, spin, THEN hit his head on the curb and then fly 30 ft onto the lawn. And all this without scratching or bruising another part of his body.
And hanging on to his phone & drink
Runkle - I believe Trooper Paul honestly doesn't know what confirmation bias is. Not a great look, but at least that answer is probably honest. I don't think he wrote the report he's testifying to, but I think he's honest here.
Also, if that animation of an Airbus A380 losing the number 1 engine is supposed to represent this mess, it's not the correct image. This image would be of the tail suddenly falling off the aircraft or all four engines bursting into flames at the same time. You can easily fly an Airbus A380 home on just two of the three remaining engines, as you'd likely reduce power on the Number 4 engine to prevent yawing.
MSP are a total disgrace and have been for many many years. this guy will be making over 100k in pension after only 25 years of work. Oh and free hell insurance. Both for the rest of his life
“Hell insurance” is accurate.
Oh man this hurts watching this man.
It was funny but then I said damn this isn’t funny.. this is the ppl that are being trusted?!
He says “fitty” instead of fifty. He’s frightening, just as Proctor. Both should be terminated and then fined for impersonating LE because they’re criminal
Trooper Paul, the scene whisperer.
“We know your witness is a carrot.” 😂😂😂
Oh that made me laugh! Love Runkle’s commentary ❤
Mr.
Jackson was a jet engine mechanic for the air force. He knows a thing or two about physics ... unlike the reconstruction expert
Action Jackson probably has so much money there is NO monetary sanction that would deter him from making such a comment. That's really the definition of priceless.
Even if he were fined down to his last penny... You think he couldn't make it all back? Demand for his work has to be beyond huge now. Brian Steel, Alan Jackson, and Camille Vasquez. That's the new dream team.
He hovered over the place they found him hours until the snow was there and then he fell. Because when they moved him there was A LOT of snow under him . . .. smh. Does the CW forgot all that??
I have the auto-brake feature. If something moves behind my car while reversing it will auto-brake. If I’m reversing close to a stationary object, it just beeps. The backup camera goes from a green outline to yellow and then red the closer you get.
So yes it will stop you from running over someone but it will not stop you from backing into a car.
I am at the beginning of Trooper Paul’s cross examination, and as someone who just finished the first year of their Bachelor in the realm of geophysics engineering:
I am fucking astounded at how little he knows about kinematics!!!
I don’t live in an english-speaking country and so my mechanics course was not in english, but even I know that the rate of velocity change is acceleration. That is one of the most basic things, I covered that in my first year of secondary school/high school, not to mention for like 5 minutes in uni!
He is supposed to be an expert - I have respected a few of the experts I’ve seen testifying in this trial, because it’s clear to see that they take pride in their knowledge and expertise, and actually know what they’re talking about!
I could probably be better at his job than this dude with less training than him. I shudder to think what that training even taught him if he cannot speak comprehensively about *acceleration*
52:26 "This guy's education appears to have all the amount of depth of a suspicious puddle on the bathroom floor" is my newest favorite Runkle analogy.
@1:57:07 Runkles response to no need to get personal, Ian...Priceless. Spot on. One of the best streams I've seen Ian do. His answer to getting personal filled with sarcasm, frustration, and truth showed how incompetent this cop was. An "expert"?
You Know Nothing
Trooper Paul.
Part of a Game of Thrones line thrown in. It seemed to fit. Great recap
Qualified to be a "shelf"
😂😂😂
from his facial expressions ,we could almost witness the "facts " he did not want to be pressed on? almost as if " ive been told not to go there,or I die" please dont make me go there😢😢😢😢
Replay crew starting just when the stream ended. :D Ready for shenanigans!
Hold on!
I once assigned a group project to an undergrad seminar course in international studies, and knew in advance who the one joker was who had done nothing, in fact, worse than nothing. I had special questions for him during their group presentation, including the geographic location of the country under examination. He did not manage that question well, but I still think he did better than Trooper Skeezeball.
I hated "Wuthering Heights" too! And, had to read it TWICE for school, once in high school, once in college. Talking to another professor about it one day, she helped articulate my feelings. Everyone in that book is awful, every character is a terrible person! No one to like or root for that made it a slog to get through.
Fucking Trooper Paul... He's like a kid who had to do a project, but instead of doing it himself his parents did it for him and just gave him a script to read, only for the teacher to stand up and say everyone needs to leave their notes behind and talk about their project purely from memory. The only thing this witness knows, is that the prosecution wants a guilty verdict, and he'll lie about everything else like a good dog. Every time the defense asks a question that might harm the prosecution's case he answers "No" with little hesitation, only to back down the moment he's asked any questions about his own answer.
He wasn't there at the scene, and from what I understand he wasn't there the 2nd time to map out the scene either. He was just given a digital map with markers already on it and he measured things from there. He also took one *POSSIBILITY* as a starting point, and worked out how Karen Read could have hit John from there. He didn't do anything, he was just given everything he needed to pretend he was an expert and even then he still needed to read from his scri- Sorry, his "Notes" in order to testify *ON DIRECT*
The prosecution could have called a medium to talk to the spirit of John O'Keefe and still have called a more credible witness than this drone.
In a previous life while working as a cart pusher I once tapped on a "No Parking" sign right next to where a car was idling waiting for someone and causing a backup in a busy lane. The driver got big mad, yelling that he wasn't *parked* he was *stopped* and that he had a degree in administration of justice so he knows the difference blah blah blah. I politely informed him that we don't allow stopping in the lane either and walked away. That is the guy I think of when I heard this witness say his highest academic achievement was an associate's degree in administration of justice. The kind of guy who gets that two-year degree and thinks he can lord it over "lesser" folks to get around rules they don't like.
50:24 acceleration is not the speed it is the change in speed.
RATE OF change of speed (really, velocity).
And I think it's a telling point that the "expert" didn't even know that that was an unanswerable question. "Velocity*is* a rate" was literally the first thought I had when I heard that question.
Trooper Paul ⁉️ What a horrible "expert." Watch his anxiety reactions. At one point he even loosens his collar. The Behavior Panel will have a field day with his clips.
I just realized auntie Bev is checking her nails as he’s talking to him about acceleration. 😂
Best case scenario is that these guys are just a little short on intellectual prowess, since the other alternatives are a complete willingness to say whatever they're told to say and just stick to it no matter what, or they're fully aware of whatever's going on. Thanks much, to you and Mrs. Runkle, for your time and perspective.
(As you said about an hour further in if I'd just waited a bit.) So glad you don't mince words.
I am usually opposed to someone proving that they are smarter than the person they are talking to by talking down to that person and trying to humiliate them in front of others, but in this case I was living for this cross!! Sadly, I don’t think this witness was aware of the fact that AJ has a degree in engineering and worked with jet propulsion in the Air Force. The fact that this guy was put forward as an expert without the most basic knowledge of physics was deeply offensive to AJ and it showed!
No engineering degree. He was a jet engine mechanic.
I’m having flashbacks to getting called on in class when I didn’t do the reading😳
I'm right with you there about Wuthering Heights I struggled to page 13 for a book report then gave up and swapped to lotr.
Also I did a 2 year certificate in data reporting in healthcare and i've worked in medical records for over a decade and I would never want to be in court as an expert because I still feel like a newbie
To be fair as to Ian's point about this guy being qualified to be a shelf, Proctor, The rest of the Canton police department and Lally as well piled this crap evidence and case on this guy and had him carry it in the court and unload it. He is quite literally acting as a movable and self unloading shelf. Ian was on point with that. I said what I said. He knows he's spouting lies and b.s. and doesnt care. He is willingly help to try and send a woman to prison for years if not her entire life knowing his testimony doesn't make sense. He is in my opinion just as deplorable as Proctor just because of different reasons. Lally put this guy up because he couldnt find anyone else to spout this crap. I seriously wanna know what Trooper Paul was promised if he got on the stand and testified to this mess.
“Which means he is a dishonest moron!” How was he allowed to testify, Lally has to bring in his boss, or bring in a private expert…but this? Any member of the Jury who have ever balanced a checkbook can see this guy is a waste of everyone time.
You just cant write this.... This trial is better than a movie. Did not think we would get a shit show better than Depp v Heard but I was wrong. We got this🤣🤣🤣
More than his lack of of knowledge in this complicated field and a total insult to those who are fully qualified….he HAD AN ATTITUDE. At times I felt sorry…for him. Then NOPE he’d ruin any pity because he just couldn’t answer a simple question.
I wanna cross examine the crime scene, maybe that would tell us what the F actually happened.
BTW, Trooper Paul said on Friday "the cup" not "a cup" and it got objected by the defense, because he made it seem like the pieces on the bumper match the cup John had. And he even said it twice!
In order to be a low voltage electrical installer, you need 6000 hours of on the job training and 3 years of schooling
Runkle you said to bring snacks, I did and nearly choked and I'm only 50 mins in 😂