Ah Yes good old gacha revenue wars ppl are fighting whose the best game but majority of those ppl that are fighting aren't even spending on those game.
@@lillyieI hope for the same thing as you but for a different reason. Without wuwa, there will not be this amazing entertainment on the first day of every month
@@Anika9691 what? do you think it's their only revenue? much as I love LaDS, this doesn't count consoles, pc, merch sales. LaDS only have mobile revenue because it's their only platform.
It dont when the game is battle focused. Shocking when your game is dating sim focused and needed to gacha to get the chars and suddenly the game is on top. How did that happen 😮
@@ssadalas ? It has battle stages and besides, most of the cards they released last month are even the LIs main colors, it just has spicy stories which you can easily watch on YT.
I can't understand why people hate others games as if they own the company I mean there are people who create this game and they really work hard we should at least respect their hard work
facts, never gonna get people who prevent themselves from enjoying other games just to show their loyalty to a multi-billion dollar company, why not just enjoy both lol
Tectone makes a video about how genshin flops every other patch but will he make a vid about how Wuwa flops hard af?🤔 Update: ofc he made a video titled “GENSHIN IS OFFICIALLY DEAD” instead💀💀💀
if you truly think its a community label their game like that and not CC and other individuals, then im just wanna wish you to grow up soon imo most of this "war" comes from the same type of ppl, who can play any game and be a dick the more player base the more u will see this idiots
This is probably cope but I reckon a lot of people have been sticking with ZZZ since its release, and because it’s ass to play on mobile, most people have been playing it on PC and therefore aren’t reflected in the mobile revenue. This would also partially explain the down trend in revenue across the board for Hoyo games, because a large portion of their playerbase probably tries all their games and mainly focuses (and spends) on the one they’re having the most fun with at the time. HSRs mobile revenue is generally higher than Hoyo’s other games because it’s turn-based and more player friendly on mobile.
there's also a fact zzz is incompatible with a lot of phones. my phone can support genshin, star rail, wuthering waves BUT NOT zzz, unless you have a high end phone, you ain't playing mobile zzz
Because certain app stores (like Samsung Galaxy) provide discounts/points, certain PC players may still opt to make their purchases on mobile. Not to mention, app stores allow for more unconventional payment options like paying at a convenience store, which is (anecdotally) a popular option in Southeast Asian nations. I'm not saying this is the case for ZZZ. Just providing a different perspective.
yea, this definitely cope. ZZZ is most definitely not ass on mobile, it's actually really well optimized for mobile especially when you compare it to something like wuwa so i do find this a bit concerning, when considering that there were 2 hype banners in this cycle
ZZZ has been at the top on PS store since its release and the game plays better on both console and PC. There's also this 30% tax onto app store for iPhone users in JP region and others.
Tectone new video soon: NATLAN IS A FLOP Would you consider Fontaine a flop? i think Fontaine was great and fun Because Fontaine 4.0 did waay much less in revenue compared to Natlan 5.0
Judging an entire region by its performance in X.0 is dumb. Fontaine 4.0 had Yelan's 2nd (iirc) rerun and Lyney. Both characters are strong but Lyney requires skill to play, so the community as a whole didn't like him too much. 5.0 has Mualani, a fan favorite because big pp dmg = neuron activation. Similar story for Kinich. Plus Kazuha and Raiden as reruns. Absolutely stacked characters.
ZZZ mobile experience far surpasses WuWa's mobile experience. If your mobile experience is so trash that you need controller support just to move properly, why would you choose to play on mobile instead of PC?
@@milmil5350 Sure, I can't even download ZZZ on my phone tho, because HoYo only made it available for high-end phones. While I can play WuWa with no problem on this same phone.
Star Rail is an turn based auto battler, a lot of people put that on their phone and then play an actual game on their PC/Console, that's why Star Rail always gets very high monthly MOBILE revenue compared to the other 3D action games
WuWa's problem is that it has fucking nothing to do. I barely even touched the game for nearly 3 months because I finished everything that 1.1 had to offer in basically 2 days. And then 1.2 gave me almost no reason to seriously engage with the game. The events are pretty terrible, so they don't succeed in filling the gaps. The end-game is boring/non-existent. The grind for Echoes is mind-numbingly boring and slow. The game has almost all of the same fundamental problems that Genshin has. But the difference is that Genshin has 4 years of sunk cost keeping people invested. Genshin also benefits from the fact that there is 4 years of backlog content, so if you have dropped the game at almost any point in the past, you have a bunch of stuff to do in backlog. At the time Genshin originally came out, there wasn't competition either, so people were willing to put up with content gaps or lack of content, because there simply wasn't any competition. WuWa doesn't have much sunk cost because it is new and they gave away a bunch of pulls/units at that start, it doesn't have the benefit of 4 years of backlog content, and it faces quite a lot of competition... So, I am unsurprised that a bunch of people are dropping the game.
The real problem is that people have unrealistic expectations for WuWa. There's just simply a limit to how much content a devs can produce and this is why not many games follow the same update schedule like Genshin.
genshin quests n exploration are way longer n its not bcz u climb walls faster in ww it literally took me 2h to explore new area n then another 10min to use item to find missing chests its the same length as the quest for sh or the new zzz video store surival minigame.... dead ass spent more time playin minigame in zzz then exploring ww... everyone was praising how fun exploring ww is but its so dull in this patch theres no puzzles no world quests nothing just walk up n take chest sometimes there will be a mob guarding it, the only thing it had was the combat trials where u had to turn in data but it all ended pretty fast n easy aswell
Also genshin had the benefit of covid during its initial release which jailed everyone in their homes so they dont mind spending time mintpicking in the game even when there was basically nothing to do. kurogame literally just cloned genshin along with all its core problems, then sprinkle in some QoL improvements. At its core, its just like genshin so the decline is unsurprising.
People play more than 1 game you know. Also, people do other things. Genshin and HSR were the same way when they came out. Give it a year, don't spend 10 hours a day pounding the content as soon as it comes out. - It is like saying you bought a 100 hour long game but finished it in a week because you spent 12 hours a day pounding it out and then complaining it was too short with not enough content
Even tof tried to innovate more with the whole mmo aspect and it wanst so easy to draw parallels in the story. I find the game enjoyable to play after im done with zzz and genshin.
To explain why Limbus Company tripled it's sales last month. (coming from a guy who has 359 hours on it.) So pretty much, Limbus company almost never has limited banners, almost all of the Id's will be immediately available on the standard banner as well, there is also a method called dispense which can convert shards from dupes to new ID's. (There is also a second, more easier method to get those shards, but I won't bother you with that) But once every three months approx. there is an event called Walpurgisnacht, which usually releases characters that set the power ceiling to new heights, and they are limited for that banner (so pretty much any other gacha game banner) And you can't dispense Id's from the current Walpurgisnacht, only from previous Walpurgisnacht events. These limited characters most likely skyrocketed Limbus's sales, it also helps that the Identities are for Yi Sang and Ryoshu, who are generally loved. (Yi sang is in 3rd place, and Ryoshu is on number 5 out of 12) (Limbus also has a battle pass that lasts for multiple months, and its gonna refresh this month, so October sales should be pretty decent as well.
@@crowing3886pointless. Based on statistics there are more spenders on PC in genshin then their are for WuWa. So saying they are majority PC is cope. Also free doesn’t mean less revenue. Even Dr Ratios banner sold pretty good
May - 24 million for 8 day and only male character is good.Imagine when yinlin release. June - 45 million is above expectation.Wuwa is in good direction.Let wait changli and revenue will sky rocket. July - Changli first 2 day banner is freeze and sensor tower is wrong. 30 million still good. August - No one pull for zhezhi.Let wait next month and see. 13 million is good.I am so impressed by some cc. Septmber - We ony have free character.Pretend to forget about new character and patch.As long as we survive it is good kekw. Memory of Kuroshills. Looking forward to october one.
I'd say that it's impossible to go lower than this, but I already said the same thing last month so...yeah, no promises. ...but fr, this is the rock bottom. They can only go up from here, then probably stabilize around blue archive's level. Personally tho? I hope it went lower than that, because lower revenue = bigger chance to go the snowbreak route. Then: - more sexy characters = happy players - wuwa revenue goes up = happy kuro - genshin fans having 3.5 years worth of laughing stock = players happy I see this as an absolute win.
They are competing with Genshin on quality and as many already know, developing genshin future content costs at least 200mil usd per year... New maps, New 3D models and motion capture for units, New OST, paying for EN, CN, KR and JP VA's, and last but not the least, advertising the game thru CC and website ads, No way 6mil a month is gonna cut it. Even if we double that revenue at 12mil, its nowhere near enough going forward.. I mean i can understand if they dont copy genshin quality and just stick to low budget 2D like other gacha.. As a side note, how come WuWa goes from $140mil to $6mil in just 4 months? this shts wild
And then they realize, they combine the cumulative revenue and then compared to the whole cumulative revenue of the competitors. They realize how very underexpectation is the revenue is, for a new game with open world gacha RPG genre. WuWa can't even compete with ZZZ which has kinda more narrow target market with its different retro-punk style, no open world design. That's the fact for now , not an opinion.
I don't understand. I can understand saving for a specific character but to have a decrease in revenue like that? I doubt that's the only reason. A lot of people save for characters in Genshin or Honkai Star Rail yet revenue is pretty much up so I doubt that everyone who plays WuWa are saving for her in order to have that much of a dip in revenue.
Bro whats wrong these people in comments ,they fighting like their life matter on it even thoughthey are eariing zero money out of it , love the drama man
It’s payback for the kurobots that trash talked zzz when it released. I didn’t want to be a part of it, but when they trashed zzz THAT much, nobody is holding back now. 6 mil will be 3 mil next month
> Genshin killer > males don't sell well, wait for Yinlin > the sales were bugged, wait for Changli > $30m is actually good for Kuro, so what if our two most hyped banners can't beat Genshin/HSR in dead patches? > ZheZhi isn't hype and this was a dead patch, game is fine > Shorekeeper is barely an upgrade over Verina so people aren't pulling > "I think it's OK as long as we survive, right" > at least dEvs LiSTeNed even though WuWa has the worst story out of any mainstream gacha, the worst music, the worst writing, and the worst voice acting > I'm glad WuWa is as niche as PGR, just shows that Kuro only cares for their players and not profits > Camellya will save WuWa And on and on. Just accept that WuWa is more of a ToF competitor than any of the top gacha games, or continue to get clowned on.
Players should not care about sales figures,let the devs worry about their revenue. As long as the game remains getting updates then we should not care about who is getting more money. This is just childish and parasolcial behaviour.
Cant really trust Gacha revenue on day 1 Copium here Wuwa increased 6mil to 10mil since this video release 23 hrs ago Some other games revenue also updated
Also remember that getting 5 stars in WuWa is way way cheaper that any other populat gacha. 80 pity, Guaranteed 5 star weapon and you can buy copies of resonators in the shop. Idk why people care about this gacha revenue while most of them don't even contributed that much to the data
The WuWa fans will defend their game to the ends of the earth, I have to commend it lol. Even if one day that chart says they made 100k, they'll still have a reason whatever it may be.
Of course they are. In all gacha games, wuwa's main players are the ones who actually praise their game. The ones who shit on wuwa are mostly those who are on & off with the game or those that don't even play at all.
Honestly I think Wuwa is very much a PC game, my friend tried to play it on mobile and it's really not as pleasant according to him, so it'd make sense that players who played on mobile either switched or quit
Why would he do that when he's made a video saying he hates this exact behavior that's happening in the comments right now. He literally said these people are not villagers, but just brand loyal creeps and morons.
@@polishpipebomb people are far too obsessed with their gacha games that its just weird. Kuro and hoyo fans shills whatever you wanna say all act the same way.
Most gacha spendings are within the first 3 days of a new banner and Shorekeeper was up for 3 days 9/28 (day of her release), 9/29, and 9/30. So her revenue is already included in Septembers data. If anything Wuthering's revenue will go down in October since it will only include Jiyan which is a rerun and a new 4 star that only Rexlent will pull
It's a reasonably popular characters trail plus a rerun of a non free 5 star character in October versus a pretty unpopular characters trail and a free 5 star character in September. I'd put money on revenue going up honestly, but to at least close to August levels.
ZZZ is up big on Playstation, being the #1 bestselling game in JP and global ranking it at #18 (which is only two ranks behind Genshin). HSR in global is at #50, but closer to ZZZ in JP.
I'm not even trying to speak ill of wuwa, but the game just look so unappealing to me. I thought i was gonna like it a lot considering it's an high paced action rpg that rewards reaction time. But my god i can't stand looking at it. The characters are devoid of charisma and the ui looks like an indie game in it's prototype stage. I tried it on launch and got bored in like 5 hours. If somebody can convince me to come back and try it again, you're welcome to do so.
Will not try to sell it to you since I´m not a Kuro employee. Will say that the game at launch had many optimization problems that have been solved, and the game is only getting better and better with time and new patches. 1.1 is like 4 times better than 1.0
@@esaualfaro3447 optimization isn't the issue, It just looks so bland to me. I don't know about the story right now, but when i started i didn't even bother reading after 5 minutes. Just walls and walls of text with seemingly horrible translation.
@@bomberist i play hsr and zzz. Zzz has the best art direction of any of the games (hoyo and wuwa) and it's not even close. I like the gameplay, it feels slick and satisfying. HSR is fun in a different way. I used to play competitive pokemon vgc and a couple tcgs (mainly yugioh and MTG) and it scratches my turn based itches. Also it runs well on phones (a big plus). I used to play genshin (nonstop since 2.1), but i took a break after they released imaginarium theatre cause it was getting really boring. I have a decent pc btw so performance is not an issue.
Wtf pokke... Wuwa is not f2p at all. 4* weapons suck, so you are incentivized to pull a signature for your dps... And then, every dps you pull feels significantly weaker than your dps with signature. In genshin you can run units like alhaitham with harbinger and you wont notice the difference with lofi. Neuvi with proto amber is pog. Good event weapons like festering/tutorial lightcone... The only upside is that the 4* characters in wuwa are so bad that your blue pulls go into standard weapon banner. And story is ass. If they are making every single character simp for rover i want actual romance mechanics... This halfway between coomer game and serious apocalyptic threat doesnt work. Have sex scenes and i'll stick with it.
@@pillowhead4456 yep, only decent weapon is variation... Just look at a theorycrafter like idk, iwintolose that posts charts comparing 4* options to signatures. The margin is huuuge. Meanwhile noelle with whiteblind Fischl with stringless Kazuha with iron sting Etc... Meanwhile i got jhinsi with signature one tapping everything but my calculator is working at wackdonalds.
@@raulmaltrain6893 yep 4 star weapons are shit. But many players are beating toa with just 4 star characters. Or Well, free characters. Your point is dumb. Without danjin I couldn't have beaten toa this patch and last one. Chixia also is great, but I haven't built her yet. The rest of the 4 star cast are great buffers used in every team
I've seen WuWa fans on twitter call ZZZ a gooner game but at least Jane Doe, Zhu Yuan, Caeser and Burnice have actual personalities outside the proxy siblings.
LDS is the genshin killer we would've never imagined, having more revenue than genshin impact for 2 consecutive month is lowkey insane , ofc its not genshin peak's but even back then genshin lows are miles higher than others highest ( except hsr obviously )
Imagine wasting your time writing this comment for the only purpose is to spread hate for no reason. Mihoyo wont give you a sloppy toppy because you hate wuthering waves and Kuro games wont give you free stuff because you hate genshin impact.
Yeah but with him came the most broken unit of that time and wuwa released some broke ass painter with the free guy i even forgot her name coz i just deleted the game after getting changli but yeah
But even if wuwa release a hype character Along with free one,it wouldn't cross 15M. Changli, shorekeeper didn't bring much revenue inspite of being so much hyped.
Was Kafka rerun free too? Was HSR revenue incorrect too like it has now been proven in WuWa case? Did you also know that most of ppl dont play WuWa on phone?
In CN sales, WuWa surpassed Hi3 by only 300k. Hi3 is a fossil game almost a decade old, has still dog sh1t UI, and code is still messy that bugs occur. They had to delete the male MC insert of part 2 to clear up memory. With Sparkle and a hyped crossover and Hi3 part 2 picking up in the story there's a real shot that Hi3 could surpass WuWa in revenue albeit a small one.
@@Aramintha so why do u hate wuwa so much that u even crying about it in comms when u can just ignore it? ih, cos u know wuwa would be better genshit impact. :(
@@youngsinatra4182 Cuz Kuro bots say WuWa is the best game ever, which is not and not even close! Harder you hype with CC's, the harder you fall! Don't hide now that WuWa is biting the dust! Don't dish it out if tou cannot take criticism!
WuWa players need to realize and admit that WuWa isn't meant to be a mobile game upon release lol. Most people who brags about the amazing sceneries and flashy vfx of the charas plays on PC. You can't even see someone say the same who plays on mobile lol
Just a friendly reminder that the reason of L&DS have so much success is because they don't share their market with any significant competitors. The one spending on those don't really have anywhere else worthwhile to spend , while all the others are competing for the same player base which has been exhausted by playing so many gacha games at the same time.
Well, low revenue won't make me stop playing wuwa. I love the game, still playing daily even till this day. Also winning 5050 for Shorekeeper makes me love it more lol. Just play whatever game you like. Don't be bothered by those who think your game is shit because bla bla bla.
@@pillowhead4456 yeah especially zzz that barely touches top 200 charts in any european country and has RpD in US at 8$ LMAO (hoyo games and wuwa have over 20$). only JP and CN carry ZZZ and they do NOT play on PCs as much as people in the west do
In regard to FFBE the Global side announced shut down at the end of October while the JP side just celebrated its 9th Anniversary and on JP at least since they won’t have to worry about translation anymore it won’t cost that much to keep it in operation and Square Enix gachas have this weird phenomenon where the JP versions outlast their Global by a long time as Record Keeper on Global got shut down 2-3 years ago but is still alive on JP and the same might be true for FFBE as it is much bigger than Record Keeper.
I genuinely dont want wuwa to die, I aint no Kuro bot, heck I started playing 2 weeks ago, I genuinely enjoy the characters, the fast paced gameplay and other aspects, I hope it doesn't die
It’s not gonna die lol. They are making good revenue it’s just not reported here, just ignore the haters bc they will always be there. Hoyo community is quite toxic from long before Wuwa existed
@@QMS9224 They make good money, its just a secret. Isnt it funny? They have a problems, and its true. Mobile gaming is huge in China, pc revenue much smaller. Its not a reason to quit, game will not die so fast, but it will be a good sign to devs that something is wrong. I hope they will focus on things at wich they are good, and stop trying complete with genshin. They dont need that huge boring dead open world at all. Game will be so much better if they just have more characters, more combat and party systems, more advanced fights. Close world like in zzz suits wuwa much better.
It won't die anytime soon. The money it made in the first few months alone is probably enough to keep it running for a few years lol But I do hope they recover from this. I mean it was their own decision to hand out a 5 star for free and this early into the lifespan of the game, too. They knew the loss they would incur from that, it's the same every time they release a free limited character in PGR as well, so they should be prepared for this.
I think Xilonen and the first two days of Nahida will be around 40 million again. It seems Genshin has settled around there. The only characters I see breaking things open would be Mavuika and if we ever get Capitano.
First 3 days of banner was included in this chart. And thats the time for most of profit. In next month they will have only rerun. So revenuje may be even worse.
10:13 You really believe these calculations, they just divided WUWA's income from last month by two 13,500,000/2=6,750,000 because he doesn't know the real income,or they are just haters lol😂
people keep saying that the data is missing from pc players etc are on massive cope. The playerbase for most if not all of these games is mobile and thats where the main playerbase resides. Very few players play on pc....and if youre making that excuse for wuwa....you have to for the other games as well. How stupid can yall be?
It is a factor, but I don't think this effect that much cause people's salary not increase 4 times so it doesn't really matter whether there are 2 banners 4 banners, or even 100 banners people only have money to pull 1 or 2 banners at most.
I guess this is what happens when you make a clone game with a reskin Black Swan. Reskin Black Swan flopped but no worries Camellya will save the game. Don't worry because when Camellua flops WW, 2.0. will save the game.
I am happy for HSR because I play it too. This is probably early of September, shorekeeper is released on 28th or 29th of september, so this must be...idk... might not be that accurate. Also there's a ton of free stuffs etc during 1.2 patch of wuwa. So wuwa still good and probably will go up again on 1.4 to 2.0+. Shorekeeper is really good (A must pull) and the story too. Let's wait for october revenue update.
@@acetrainerx1346 you shouldn't be bothered by these comments if you have conviction in the game. After all, revenue isn't an indicator of quality right? Or, perhaps, maybe there's a subconscious part of you that realises WuWa isn't the perfect game it's touted of being?
They really want to EOS the game with their yaps and inaccurate statistics. Typical behavior of stockholm syndrome hoyoshills, they can't live without bashing a competitor of their overlords. Anyways I really enjoy this patch, and for the quality Kuro is putting up right now I don't think its going EOS at any point in time, plus only Kuro know what the real revenue is, I don't why people are treating this chart like a holy gospel that a game will fail even if its in the lows 10M. Even PGR survived with lower revenue.
@@acetrainerx1346 also, where was this measured take before WuWa's release? I distinctly remember the community spouting 'mint', '3 years 3 pulls' 'xyz could never' memes prior to launch? I remember it because I was part of that crowd. But it turns out that WuWa is just another turd in a long line of turd games.
This wuthering waves situation is very concerning, it's snowballing. I'm kind of a whale there, i have 2 s6r5 limited characters, and I'm getting worried about spending more money on a game that might die on me anytime. If it feels like a game is dying, it'll become a self fulfilling prophecy
Wuthering Waves makes sense honestly. They released Zhezhi a character who had a lukewarm response from the community due to her face design, and then they gave out the second banner character for free. There was almost 0 reason to spend last month. With Shorekeeper, I have already had the streamer I follow open the game back up and grab 3 copies of Shorekeeper. PS. My game ranking is ZZZ>HSR>Genshin=WuWa right now. So don't jump to the conclusion that I'm a Kuro apologist, if anything Kuro annoys me.
True. But first days of new patch are included in charts. And thats where the majority of whale profit is. Next month without new chars can be even worse.
7:57 Just add more salt in the wound. Tower of Fantasy at least did not drop to single digits until the 2.0x (After a year) banner if I recall. Anyway, Tower of Fantasy 🤝 Wuthering Waves.
Its important for the game to establish a strong, predictable baseline of core audience revenue. Regardless of banner, character, patch, anything, whales/casuals will still spend on welkin, battlepass etc... if the baseline is halving monthly reaching new lows, it simply means the core audience is shrinking fast and/or too volatile, which is never a good thing. Strong baseline, predictable revenue is important for internal operations and hedging uncertainties against more and more incoming rivals to this gacha space (open world or not). Long story short, dropping this fast to single digits is a very worrying sign. Game of this caliber needs a much higher baseline to justify investing in ongoing developments.
Tower of Fantasy dropped even faster, so the more interesting question is if WuWa will recover, or even if they will stay on this level, that would be fine, too. If they keep dropping as low as ToF, tho... well it's still gonna be a good game, just not the most successful one lol
@@JJKMagic I don't have cn numbers for tf first months, but looking only at global, tof made in 5 months 67M, against 64M from ww. 5th month tof 6M, ww 4M 6th month tof 2.8M. My expectations for ww is to get a little better, with 6M(global, 12M worldwide) in October. But that would still keep it on same level as tof overall.
Then .. Can we also agree that there are a lot of ppl who play both genshin and zzz on PC as well? It’s not like wuwa is the only game that is awful to play on mobile , come on now .
I mean im still gonna play Wuwa cause I find it enjoyable. Hsr is still my favorite as I love JRPG. would love for that Persona gacha game to come whatever it was called though :( but prob gonna be awhile for that if it even happens. also are these comments just rage bait or do yall seriously take this shit that seriously. its a game 😭
i'm legitimately embarrassed to be a genshin player because of people like these, it's very clear that they never leave the house and have nothing real going on in their lives.
@@kian239your comment is very embarrassing, imagine feeling guilty for some people in “your” single player game community lol, it’s not that deep, bitchless and jobless comment
seriously, I play genshin, hsr, pgr and wuwa at the same time and I enjoy all of them maybe because of my dark aesthetic love I kinda love wuwa more but still I can't understand why people hate others games as if they own the company I mean there are people who create this game and they really work hard we should at least respect their hard work
LnD is not surprising because women finally have a game that caters to them exclusively; a lot of gays too and they finally have reason to spend all their life savings on 3D heartthrobs.
8:41 oh yes it's missing data as always I never hated the game, i actually really liked the combat and dynamic dialogue animations + climbing and running qol they put in and hoped genshin to compliment them But wuwa's fan's always went on my nerves (not saying hsr or genshin fans are saints but stil) i never saw anyone talk about or compliment wuwa for the sake of wuwa , the word genshin was always present in any sentence that comes out of their mouths about wuwa Their praises felt like forced out of spite for genshin (and hsr and zzz to a lesser extent) and not for actually liking the game
Yo, fr. I would've been so much happier about Wuwa if I had not been exposed to the online vocal minorities that have Genshin living rent-free in their heads (assuming that these are actually the minority).
Most of us just play the game and don’t talk much or be online lol. It’s a fun game, the only reason we would speak up is when we see crazy hate for no reason (like in this comment section). It’s just a fun game with mostly unreported revenue from pc. I’m a former genshin player and I never shit on the game genshin was peak for me for a long time from when it came out. I just got bored and moved on, nothing against the game
People are complaining HSR is only played on mobile, that's why it is no.1, but you know what's crazy, I joined many content creators discord server to play PvP and found out that 70-80% people there are playing in PC, myself and my friends included....many whales and dolphins are playing HSR on PC, only normal express pass and monthly pass users plays on mobile except some exceptions.....
The funny part is that LADS is actually mobile EXLUSIVE but hardly anyone seems to take that into consideration. So while these charts are only estimations and not accurate in the slightest, for LADS they are much closer to their total revenue compared to the gachas which are on multiple platforms
Mtfk keep treating Sensor tower like it's the bible of gaming longevity :))) Imagine using a website where it is stated that all of its source are solely estimation and not even the real deal then proceed to act like you are some kind of expert data analyst is hillarious
I honestly think Wuthering Waves will habe better revenue next month, but i do think the game will very close to Punishing Gray Raven as in revenue, it wont get close to Love and Deepspace. This patch where they gave a free 5 star and nobody cared that much for them was a terrible mistake. The game was too young for them to just give a T5 for free. It would be better if they start to give event weapons or new 4 star characters on events.
they really need to tap that low end device market because that's the most spender are (or better yet make official WuWa cloud for pc and mobile). You really cant just ignore mobile market in asia especially south east asia.
Hahaha.. Ikr! Like I just came to check the comments and man I was surprised to see people going against each other as if they were in a war. So petty!
The economy is down in the dumps..but mind you..despite this..hoyo still made 150m this month on mobile alone..so you could say, all platforms included, probably 300m in total across all their games...absolutely diabolical.
I wouldn't be surprized LaDs is populer in CN bc those CN girls have thicc wallet and i heard someone literally rented a yacht on zayne's birthday like what??????
Those who saying Kafka did it because she is hyped,wuwa revenue wouldnt change much even if they release a hype character. We have seen this with revenue of months in which several hyped character released.
@@kingsimba9513 where did anyone said that it was a genshin killer. The CEO only said "as long as we survive" which was always the case Try harder cutie
And that should be the least of ur concern or.. the downfall of WuWa feeds ur ego or some..? i dont get the hate tho (not defending the game.. im just curious why ppl is waiting for the downfall of WuWa)
@@maxkenhadn Because the fandom is insufferable. Imagine if Genshin went in a similar downward spiral. Vultures would certainly feast in a similar if not greater fashion.
It's also definitely not missing data, otherwise ZZZ wouldn't pop off like it did compared to last month. It's just that, wuwa has permanently failed to retain the vast majority of its day 1 players and also failed to get many new ones over time, it is what it is, I doubt the game is gonna die but long term I don't know if it's gonna improve a lot because Kuro's budget is likely getting smaller and smaller from this
@@kingsimba9513 You talk like Genshin is a cheap cash-grab. They don't treat their players the best but they still put more work than 95% of the gacha in this chart.
Whats painful having dragon ball legends being my first gacha is how hard it fell off as it continues to fall off 💀 Used to love that game man.. At least star rail is up there. Might try Lads just out of curiosity...
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hsr being number 1 is not only thanks to feixiao but also THREE rerun banners one of them being a broken harmony unit
Well it's the same with two banner and 1 rerun each like last month, so it's an increase more than 25 million
HUGE cope
It MIGHT also be because the game is really good
@@pillowhead4456 They literally released one of the top 3 dps in the game, along with her best support and the two best dot characters as well
@@pillowhead4456how?
Ah Yes good old gacha revenue wars ppl are fighting whose the best game but majority of those ppl that are fighting aren't even spending on those game.
Exactly
i hope wuwa never dies. it's too valuable containing the sociopathic "fans" that never liked genshin in the first place.
@@lillyie wuwa will never die since they getting all this hate it's impossible
@@lillyieI hope for the same thing as you but for a different reason. Without wuwa, there will not be this amazing entertainment on the first day of every month
Hey nothing wrong with a little free adrenalin. ;)
Love and deep space is the true genshin killer
It's not genshin killer, genshin can't even compete.
Genshin is so beneath it
@@Anika9691 what? do you think it's their only revenue? much as I love LaDS, this doesn't count consoles, pc, merch sales. LaDS only have mobile revenue because it's their only platform.
The 'males don't sell well' is such a funny argument considering LnD is on the rise and it's just cooker husbando game 😂
It dont when the game is battle focused. Shocking when your game is dating sim focused and needed to gacha to get the chars and suddenly the game is on top. How did that happen 😮
@@ssadalas ? It has battle stages and besides, most of the cards they released last month are even the LIs main colors, it just has spicy stories which you can easily watch on YT.
Males sell well here because it's the only husbando game
@@ssadalas Gilgamesh and Merlin are laughing together
because it's for different target audience
I hope there comes a day where people stop fighting each other over revenue of a gacha game and the community just enjoys playing the game they like
I can't understand why people hate others games as if they own the company I mean there are people who create this game and they really work hard we should at least respect their hard work
facts, never gonna get people who prevent themselves from enjoying other games just to show their loyalty to a multi-billion dollar company, why not just enjoy both lol
Tectone makes a video about how genshin flops every other patch but will he make a vid about how Wuwa flops hard af?🤔
Update: ofc he made a video titled “GENSHIN IS OFFICIALLY DEAD” instead💀💀💀
no cuz he has a hate b0n3r for genshin
To be fair he did say wuwa is dead, he just won't make a video cause genshin rage bait gets views
He is a Genshin ragebaiter so he probably will
He has a hate boner for Genshin, it’s nothing news at this point.
wtf . he already said several times wuwa is dead
Man, reading all these comments is soo much fun and much more entertaining than the whole video.
@@tiexcer7444 much more entertaining than playing WuWa as well.
@@kingsimba9513 real😂
@@kingsimba9513Insecure hoyocope
Tbh there wouldn't be so much hate on wuwa if Kuro bots didn't label their game as "Genshin killer" and constantly shit on zzz's release
Exactly
HSR is the real Genshin killer
That's true but Wuwa shills can't get enough they like to spread toxicity everywhere they go
That goes both ways
if you truly think its a community label their game like that and not CC and other individuals, then im just wanna wish you to grow up soon
imo most of this "war" comes from the same type of ppl, who can play any game and be a dick
the more player base the more u will see this idiots
This is probably cope but I reckon a lot of people have been sticking with ZZZ since its release, and because it’s ass to play on mobile, most people have been playing it on PC and therefore aren’t reflected in the mobile revenue.
This would also partially explain the down trend in revenue across the board for Hoyo games, because a large portion of their playerbase probably tries all their games and mainly focuses (and spends) on the one they’re having the most fun with at the time.
HSRs mobile revenue is generally higher than Hoyo’s other games because it’s turn-based and more player friendly on mobile.
there's also a fact zzz is incompatible with a lot of phones. my phone can support genshin, star rail, wuthering waves BUT NOT zzz, unless you have a high end phone, you ain't playing mobile zzz
Because certain app stores (like Samsung Galaxy) provide discounts/points, certain PC players may still opt to make their purchases on mobile.
Not to mention, app stores allow for more unconventional payment options like paying at a convenience store, which is (anecdotally) a popular option in Southeast Asian nations.
I'm not saying this is the case for ZZZ. Just providing a different perspective.
yea, this definitely cope. ZZZ is most definitely not ass on mobile, it's actually really well optimized for mobile especially when you compare it to something like wuwa so i do find this a bit concerning, when considering that there were 2 hype banners in this cycle
ZZZ has been at the top on PS store since its release and the game plays better on both console and PC. There's also this 30% tax onto app store for iPhone users in JP region and others.
Very good point for hsr, it’s the most mobile friendly of all
Limbus getting almost 2 limbillion dollars is satisfactory, glory to project moon!!!
another sleeper agent... glory to project moon!!!!!!!
Congrats Executive Managers, glory to Limbus and PJMoon
ah yes, it was walpurgis night banner other wise people just go grind MD 😂
Glory to project moon
@@DT-bo1zk being able to spark every ID goes hard after all
Any of these gacha games will never reach the peak cinema of heathcliff in a bear costume
Tectone new video soon: NATLAN IS A FLOP
Would you consider Fontaine a flop? i think Fontaine was great and fun
Because Fontaine 4.0 did waay much less in revenue compared to Natlan 5.0
WW paid him too much therefore he can't talk negative about it
$50m a month on 4 year old game with the least hype chars of the bunch is a flop lol
damn the mintpickers came out of the closet
Judging an entire region by its performance in X.0 is dumb. Fontaine 4.0 had Yelan's 2nd (iirc) rerun and Lyney. Both characters are strong but Lyney requires skill to play, so the community as a whole didn't like him too much.
5.0 has Mualani, a fan favorite because big pp dmg = neuron activation. Similar story for Kinich.
Plus Kazuha and Raiden as reruns. Absolutely stacked characters.
Tectone is a idiot... 🤣🤣🤣
To think reverse 1999 beat wuthering waves. Damn
And about 6 other cheap mobile-exclusive games 💀
Main reason is since this was taken during the Xiangli Yao banner, where he was free for everyone so people just saved
@@lbomb1121 main reason no one plays on mobile
@@Celica_42 wait you got a point. is that revenue in video only on mobile ?
@@NanoZAQ yea
p diddy stole wuwa revenue data, i have source
He used wuwa’s revenue to buy more baby oils
hes using the revenue to prepare the diddy party and freak offs in prison
Just a compleatly random question what aeon do you follow
Elation? More like e-lotion ig
@@indyvidual3917 what is elotion? me i am elotion - diddy prolly
"WuWa players are mainly on PC"
Same could be said about ZZZ, the cope is insane 🤣
ZZZ mobile experience far surpasses WuWa's mobile experience. If your mobile experience is so trash that you need controller support just to move properly, why would you choose to play on mobile instead of PC?
Not only zzz, gi and hsr too I bet they has much players in pc then whole Wuwa playerz
@@milmil5350 Sure, I can't even download ZZZ on my phone tho, because HoYo only made it available for high-end phones. While I can play WuWa with no problem on this same phone.
And remember majority of PC gamers don't spend on gacha.
Star Rail is an turn based auto battler, a lot of people put that on their phone and then play an actual game on their PC/Console, that's why Star Rail always gets very high monthly MOBILE revenue compared to the other 3D action games
WuWa's problem is that it has fucking nothing to do. I barely even touched the game for nearly 3 months because I finished everything that 1.1 had to offer in basically 2 days. And then 1.2 gave me almost no reason to seriously engage with the game. The events are pretty terrible, so they don't succeed in filling the gaps. The end-game is boring/non-existent. The grind for Echoes is mind-numbingly boring and slow. The game has almost all of the same fundamental problems that Genshin has. But the difference is that Genshin has 4 years of sunk cost keeping people invested. Genshin also benefits from the fact that there is 4 years of backlog content, so if you have dropped the game at almost any point in the past, you have a bunch of stuff to do in backlog. At the time Genshin originally came out, there wasn't competition either, so people were willing to put up with content gaps or lack of content, because there simply wasn't any competition. WuWa doesn't have much sunk cost because it is new and they gave away a bunch of pulls/units at that start, it doesn't have the benefit of 4 years of backlog content, and it faces quite a lot of competition... So, I am unsurprised that a bunch of people are dropping the game.
The real problem is that people have unrealistic expectations for WuWa. There's just simply a limit to how much content a devs can produce and this is why not many games follow the same update schedule like Genshin.
genshin quests n exploration are way longer n its not bcz u climb walls faster in ww it literally took me 2h to explore new area n then another 10min to use item to find missing chests its the same length as the quest for sh or the new zzz video store surival minigame.... dead ass spent more time playin minigame in zzz then exploring ww... everyone was praising how fun exploring ww is but its so dull in this patch theres no puzzles no world quests nothing just walk up n take chest sometimes there will be a mob guarding it, the only thing it had was the combat trials where u had to turn in data but it all ended pretty fast n easy aswell
Also genshin had the benefit of covid during its initial release which jailed everyone in their homes so they dont mind spending time mintpicking in the game even when there was basically nothing to do.
kurogame literally just cloned genshin along with all its core problems, then sprinkle in some QoL improvements. At its core, its just like genshin so the decline is unsurprising.
People play more than 1 game you know. Also, people do other things.
Genshin and HSR were the same way when they came out. Give it a year, don't spend 10 hours a day pounding the content as soon as it comes out.
- It is like saying you bought a 100 hour long game but finished it in a week because you spent 12 hours a day pounding it out and then complaining it was too short with not enough content
Even tof tried to innovate more with the whole mmo aspect and it wanst so easy to draw parallels in the story. I find the game enjoyable to play after im done with zzz and genshin.
To explain why Limbus Company tripled it's sales last month. (coming from a guy who has 359 hours on it.)
So pretty much, Limbus company almost never has limited banners, almost all of the Id's will be immediately available on the standard banner as well, there is also a method called dispense which can convert shards from dupes to new ID's. (There is also a second, more easier method to get those shards, but I won't bother you with that) But once every three months approx. there is an event called Walpurgisnacht, which usually releases characters that set the power ceiling to new heights, and they are limited for that banner (so pretty much any other gacha game banner) And you can't dispense Id's from the current Walpurgisnacht, only from previous Walpurgisnacht events. These limited characters most likely skyrocketed Limbus's sales, it also helps that the Identities are for Yi Sang and Ryoshu, who are generally loved. (Yi sang is in 3rd place, and Ryoshu is on number 5 out of 12) (Limbus also has a battle pass that lasts for multiple months, and its gonna refresh this month, so October sales should be pretty decent as well.
“Without any further ado, let’s get into today’s content”
*ado’s further*
kurobots defend their game so much online that they forget to actually support the game with their wallet 💀
I CAN'T with these anti kurobots comments man they are so funny om
Both fanbases fighting over which game is better is just sad as i like both lmao
Bro trying to act smart without doing full research 🙄
It is what it is they says 🗿
@@crowing3886pointless. Based on statistics there are more spenders on PC in genshin then their are for WuWa. So saying they are majority PC is cope. Also free doesn’t mean less revenue. Even Dr Ratios banner sold pretty good
May - 24 million for 8 day and only male character is good.Imagine when yinlin release.
June - 45 million is above expectation.Wuwa is in good direction.Let wait changli and revenue will sky rocket.
July - Changli first 2 day banner is freeze and sensor tower is wrong. 30 million still good.
August - No one pull for zhezhi.Let wait next month and see. 13 million is good.I am so impressed by some cc.
Septmber - We ony have free character.Pretend to forget about new character and patch.As long as we survive it is good kekw.
Memory of Kuroshills.
Looking forward to october one.
October - it was only a rerun month and it's Jiyan, a male (conveniently forgetting that 19 days of it was Shorekeeper's banner).
I'd say that it's impossible to go lower than this, but I already said the same thing last month so...yeah, no promises.
...but fr, this is the rock bottom. They can only go up from here, then probably stabilize around blue archive's level.
Personally tho? I hope it went lower than that, because lower revenue = bigger chance to go the snowbreak route.
Then:
- more sexy characters = happy players
- wuwa revenue goes up = happy kuro
- genshin fans having 3.5 years worth of laughing stock = players happy
I see this as an absolute win.
They are competing with Genshin on quality and as many already know, developing genshin future content costs at least 200mil usd per year... New maps, New 3D models and motion capture for units, New OST, paying for EN, CN, KR and JP VA's, and last but not the least, advertising the game thru CC and website ads, No way 6mil a month is gonna cut it.
Even if we double that revenue at 12mil, its nowhere near enough going forward.. I mean i can understand if they dont copy genshin quality and just stick to low budget 2D like other gacha..
As a side note, how come WuWa goes from $140mil to $6mil in just 4 months? this shts wild
Bro keep these chronicles, its hillarious to see their excuses 😂
And then they realize, they combine the cumulative revenue and then compared to the whole cumulative revenue of the competitors. They realize how very underexpectation is the revenue is, for a new game with open world gacha RPG genre.
WuWa can't even compete with ZZZ which has kinda more narrow target market with its different retro-punk style, no open world design.
That's the fact for now , not an opinion.
from Genshin Killer to “As long as the game survive, Wuwa is ok”
Wuwa fans never made a statement of it being genshin killer it’s those who hated genshin and want genshin get overthrown
@@N.biebie8428 and those who hated Genshin formed the majority of the WuWa community. What's your point?
@@kingsimba9513 I bet most of them went back to Genshin hahahahahaha
"As long as the game survive and becoming tencent burden"
@@N.biebie8428 Lies and a blatant one. Wuwu fans were all celebrating and saying that when it surpassed Genshin revenue for a day.
Surely players are "saving for "Camellya" then of course when Camellya comes players will be "saving for Scar"...
Then the 2.0 drop market and the people who want camellya gonna skip her💀
And then when Scar drops and gets no revenue they will blame kuro for removing that thing between his legs
And then when Geshulin drops they will complain that there isn't enough male characters and then they will drop the game 😂
And then after that they say they're saving for Geshulin 😂
I don't understand. I can understand saving for a specific character but to have a decrease in revenue like that? I doubt that's the only reason. A lot of people save for characters in Genshin or Honkai Star Rail yet revenue is pretty much up so I doubt that everyone who plays WuWa are saving for her in order to have that much of a dip in revenue.
Bro whats wrong these people in comments ,they fighting like their life matter on it even thoughthey are eariing zero money out of it , love the drama man
It’s payback for the kurobots that trash talked zzz when it released. I didn’t want to be a part of it, but when they trashed zzz THAT much, nobody is holding back now. 6 mil will be 3 mil next month
@@dyeluke7236 especially content creator
@@dyeluke7236lmao this is such a stupid take man u are not fighting a war and ur just letting deranged people have effect on ur mental state
If you think that Shorekeeper will make less than XLY, you're delusional. Next month will most likely be higher than 6m. @@dyeluke7236
@@dyeluke7236 It's not that deep, lil bro 😂
Aah my free monthly entertainment the hoyo shills vs the kuro bots.
HSR still there man. The best gacha agreed
jendral feixiao carry
For me HSR is the best gacha
Yep HSR still the king so glad hsr exists 👑
Feixiao ❤
HSR's 'filler' dumpstered on the entire gacha scene. It really is 'the honored one'. Praise be.
> Genshin killer
> males don't sell well, wait for Yinlin
> the sales were bugged, wait for Changli
> $30m is actually good for Kuro, so what if our two most hyped banners can't beat Genshin/HSR in dead patches?
> ZheZhi isn't hype and this was a dead patch, game is fine
> Shorekeeper is barely an upgrade over Verina so people aren't pulling
> "I think it's OK as long as we survive, right"
> at least dEvs LiSTeNed even though WuWa has the worst story out of any mainstream gacha, the worst music, the worst writing, and the worst voice acting
> I'm glad WuWa is as niche as PGR, just shows that Kuro only cares for their players and not profits
> Camellya will save WuWa
And on and on. Just accept that WuWa is more of a ToF competitor than any of the top gacha games, or continue to get clowned on.
next patch for sure :) into next patch for sure :) into next patch for sure :)
HOLY essaying stop the cope bro you look pathetic ☠️🙏🏼
saying a company doesn’t care about profits 💀💀💀💀💀 are you 12?
Players should not care about sales figures,let the devs worry about their revenue.
As long as the game remains getting updates then we should not care about who is getting more money.
This is just childish and parasolcial behaviour.
Unlike usually, the goalpost is moved backwards to give the copium a fighting chance against doom and depression.
these comments just make me wonder how many of these people are over 18
probably like, 3? 🤔, nah definitely less
True. Pokke can farm interactions by putting the children against each other.
none, ppl with functioning brain probably won't waste time on this, kinda fun seeing all the fighting tho
True, wont even waste time on this.
@@soukipediaso you don’t have a functioning brain either? 💀
@@Gheniel_you wasted time to open this video and write this comment 😮
wuwa went from a genshin competitor to being a azur lane competitor
Reverse 1999 is even higher than Wuwa now
@@looots1320yeah all thanks to that robo lady, a truly limited charactrr and Op as well.
@@looots1320 WUWA GOT 10.5 MILLION BBAAAABYYYYY
Cant really trust Gacha revenue on day 1
Copium here
Wuwa increased 6mil to 10mil since this video release 23 hrs ago
Some other games revenue also updated
Lmao its true
And that’s just Xiangli Yao numbers too
Also remember that getting 5 stars in WuWa is way way cheaper that any other populat gacha. 80 pity, Guaranteed 5 star weapon and you can buy copies of resonators in the shop. Idk why people care about this gacha revenue while most of them don't even contributed that much to the data
I mean the game it's on the top grossing on Google while they put wuwa as low revenue. Like who do u think it's more trustable
@@fallenqiqi4840Zenless is below Epic7 on my app store lmao
The WuWa fans will defend their game to the ends of the earth, I have to commend it lol. Even if one day that chart says they made 100k, they'll still have a reason whatever it may be.
@encrypted0547yea
@encrypted0547there the first one lmao
kuroshill
Of course they are. In all gacha games, wuwa's main players are the ones who actually praise their game. The ones who shit on wuwa are mostly those who are on & off with the game or those that don't even play at all.
@encrypted0547 Daily reminder that all Hoyo games are also on pc
@@juliendreemurr654 lmao
Honestly I think Wuwa is very much a PC game, my friend tried to play it on mobile and it's really not as pleasant according to him, so it'd make sense that players who played on mobile either switched or quit
I hope Pokke makes a vid covering these comments xD
Why would he do that when he's made a video saying he hates this exact behavior that's happening in the comments right now.
He literally said these people are not villagers, but just brand loyal creeps and morons.
Prolly on daily village next stream
its so cringe man
@@polishpipebomb people are far too obsessed with their gacha games that its just weird. Kuro and hoyo fans shills whatever you wanna say all act the same way.
Most gacha spendings are within the first 3 days of a new banner and Shorekeeper was up for 3 days 9/28 (day of her release), 9/29, and 9/30. So her revenue is already included in Septembers data. If anything Wuthering's revenue will go down in October since it will only include Jiyan which is a rerun and a new 4 star that only Rexlent will pull
It's a reasonably popular characters trail plus a rerun of a non free 5 star character in October versus a pretty unpopular characters trail and a free 5 star character in September. I'd put money on revenue going up honestly, but to at least close to August levels.
Was honestly expecting hsr, zzz and wuwa to do more with the hype banners they had. They are still up though. Love and deep space keeps cooking🤣
ZZZ is up big on Playstation, being the #1 bestselling game in JP and global ranking it at #18 (which is only two ranks behind Genshin). HSR in global is at #50, but closer to ZZZ in JP.
These are only mobile revenues. Zenless and WuWa must have a larger PC community than on mobile, but this revenue is not taken into account here.
honestly thought genshin would do better considering natlan
honestly thought genshin would do better considering natlan
@@cratoic1603 these games are pretty much making close to or over 100 mil a month when you combine all revenue streams it's actually nuts 😂
I'm not even trying to speak ill of wuwa, but the game just look so unappealing to me. I thought i was gonna like it a lot considering it's an high paced action rpg that rewards reaction time. But my god i can't stand looking at it. The characters are devoid of charisma and the ui looks like an indie game in it's prototype stage. I tried it on launch and got bored in like 5 hours. If somebody can convince me to come back and try it again, you're welcome to do so.
Will not try to sell it to you since I´m not a Kuro employee. Will say that the game at launch had many optimization problems that have been solved, and the game is only getting better and better with time and new patches. 1.1 is like 4 times better than 1.0
maybe i can try, what other gacha games do you currently play and what do you look for in a game?
Yeah the colour palette of Wuwa is very unappelaing for an anime game
@@esaualfaro3447 optimization isn't the issue, It just looks so bland to me. I don't know about the story right now, but when i started i didn't even bother reading after 5 minutes. Just walls and walls of text with seemingly horrible translation.
@@bomberist i play hsr and zzz. Zzz has the best art direction of any of the games (hoyo and wuwa) and it's not even close. I like the gameplay, it feels slick and satisfying. HSR is fun in a different way. I used to play competitive pokemon vgc and a couple tcgs (mainly yugioh and MTG) and it scratches my turn based itches. Also it runs well on phones (a big plus). I used to play genshin (nonstop since 2.1), but i took a break after they released imaginarium theatre cause it was getting really boring. I have a decent pc btw so performance is not an issue.
When ladies set their mind to something it shoots to the top 🤣
Wtf pokke...
Wuwa is not f2p at all.
4* weapons suck, so you are incentivized to pull a signature for your dps... And then, every dps you pull feels significantly weaker than your dps with signature.
In genshin you can run units like alhaitham with harbinger and you wont notice the difference with lofi.
Neuvi with proto amber is pog.
Good event weapons like festering/tutorial lightcone...
The only upside is that the 4* characters in wuwa are so bad that your blue pulls go into standard weapon banner.
And story is ass. If they are making every single character simp for rover i want actual romance mechanics... This halfway between coomer game and serious apocalyptic threat doesnt work. Have sex scenes and i'll stick with it.
@@raulmaltrain6893 I have to agree on you with the 4* weapons, they suck ass
@@pillowhead4456 yep, only decent weapon is variation...
Just look at a theorycrafter like idk, iwintolose that posts charts comparing 4* options to signatures. The margin is huuuge.
Meanwhile noelle with whiteblind
Fischl with stringless
Kazuha with iron sting
Etc...
Meanwhile i got jhinsi with signature one tapping everything but my calculator is working at wackdonalds.
@@raulmaltrain6893 yep 4 star weapons are shit. But many players are beating toa with just 4 star characters. Or Well, free characters. Your point is dumb. Without danjin I couldn't have beaten toa this patch and last one. Chixia also is great, but I haven't built her yet. The rest of the 4 star cast are great buffers used in every team
I've seen WuWa fans on twitter call ZZZ a gooner game but at least Jane Doe, Zhu Yuan, Caeser and Burnice have actual personalities outside the proxy siblings.
Wise words Mr. Trump, as an Australian, you have my vote!
Unfortunate since I love wuwa. I hope it sustains.
It probably won't sustain. Hoyo is too overleveled. Maybe bring some preservation units with you.
@@tp9516 Aventurine e1 should be enough hopefully
It says here that Wuwa made 6 million in september but when I go to the gacha revenue site it says that it made 10 million 🤔
It got updated
LDS is the genshin killer we would've never imagined, having more revenue than genshin impact for 2 consecutive month is lowkey insane , ofc its not genshin peak's but even back then genshin lows are miles higher than others highest ( except hsr obviously )
Yep, the fujoshi and female centric market in Asia is blowing up. I expect more games like it to come out after it's huge success
And it's only husbando, we need a waifu version
Well, this is just on mobile tho. Genshin still has PC and PSN. Overall Genshin's revenue will be much higher than this.
@@Hhhh22222-w nope. Just a husbando version is fine👍 let us women have something and something that actually has good quality
@@Hhhh22222-w don't you have enough waifu games? 😭lmao there are so many
if it wasn't for 2 days shorekeeper banner withering waves CN is even lower than honkai3rd CN, cant wait for kurocopers to find new excuse this time 😂
Imagine wasting your time writing this comment for the only purpose is to spread hate for no reason. Mihoyo wont give you a sloppy toppy because you hate wuthering waves and Kuro games wont give you free stuff because you hate genshin impact.
@@aveteranweeb4188nah that’s bo hate, kuro and hoyo copers are all the same
@@aveteranweeb4188 you need to go spend more money on shorekeeper banner now, you know....to stop the withering waves 😂
@@aveteranweeb4188you wouldn't say that if it was against Genshin
@@maxcth it doesn't matter how much money you throw at Hoyo, they won't give you a bj
I think hsr is the ultimate mobile game. The only gacha game i play on mobile cuz its just so comfy.
Dr. Ratio was free too (need I say more)
Yeah but with him came the most broken unit of that time and wuwa released some broke ass painter with the free guy i even forgot her name coz i just deleted the game after getting changli but yeah
But even if wuwa release a hype character Along with free one,it wouldn't cross 15M. Changli, shorekeeper didn't bring much revenue inspite of being so much hyped.
@@navneetkumar1975 changli did bring a lot of revenue? she made over 40 million dollars alone despite having 3 days off the charts?
@@navneetkumar1975 yup same like your country largest population but doessnt do much except r0ping and sc@@mming
Was Kafka rerun free too? Was HSR revenue incorrect too like it has now been proven in WuWa case? Did you also know that most of ppl dont play WuWa on phone?
In CN sales, WuWa surpassed Hi3 by only 300k. Hi3 is a fossil game almost a decade old, has still dog sh1t UI, and code is still messy that bugs occur. They had to delete the male MC insert of part 2 to clear up memory. With Sparkle and a hyped crossover and Hi3 part 2 picking up in the story there's a real shot that Hi3 could surpass WuWa in revenue albeit a small one.
That would be so funny.
Possibly. It can also attract many HSR players to Hi3 just to pull Sparkle lmao.
Here before the Kuro bot copium comments start rolling in on this video 😂
They're coping so hard saying that the devs don't want to make money😂
@@fiyibomiolabode The copium is off the charts I seen some saying it's because Kuro cares about them and doesn't want them to spend 😂
@@Aramintha so why do u hate wuwa so much that u even crying about it in comms when u can just ignore it? ih, cos u know wuwa would be better genshit impact. :(
Can’t wait to see the coping 😂
@@youngsinatra4182 Cuz Kuro bots say WuWa is the best game ever, which is not and not even close!
Harder you hype with CC's, the harder you fall! Don't hide now that WuWa is biting the dust!
Don't dish it out if tou cannot take criticism!
WuWa players need to realize and admit that WuWa isn't meant to be a mobile game upon release lol. Most people who brags about the amazing sceneries and flashy vfx of the charas plays on PC. You can't even see someone say the same who plays on mobile lol
Just a friendly reminder that the reason of L&DS have so much success is because they don't share their market with any significant competitors. The one spending on those don't really have anywhere else worthwhile to spend , while all the others are competing for the same player base which has been exhausted by playing so many gacha games at the same time.
Well, low revenue won't make me stop playing wuwa.
I love the game, still playing daily even till this day. Also winning 5050 for Shorekeeper makes me love it more lol.
Just play whatever game you like. Don't be bothered by those who think your game is shit because bla bla bla.
from Genshin Killer to “As long as the game survive, Wuwa is ok”
Kurobot started all this sht, too late playing victim now
love and deepspace: you all saying gacha players only care about waifu?
only waifus or only husbandos 😮💨
And yet Xiangli Yao flopped hard. So what is it then?
….. the character given for FREE flopped? That’s crazy who would’ve thought
@@kahayacchi That argument holds no value because Dr. Ratio was free and didn't flop.
@@SwieczkaNiweaniewierzeDarek Did u forget? Ratio ran with Kafka while Xiangli Yao was all by himself lmao
Personally i can't even stand playing *Genshin Impact* on phone how much worse must it be for *Wuthering Waves* ...
Because majority of the players play on PC?
@@bunnyx2819Same with all Hoyo games, keep coping cuh
Pc game, also they have controller support now it’s pretty smooth on mobile
@@pillowhead4456 yeah especially zzz that barely touches top 200 charts in any european country and has RpD in US at 8$ LMAO (hoyo games and wuwa have over 20$). only JP and CN carry ZZZ and they do NOT play on PCs as much as people in the west do
@@artyur2268well that’s a good thing, it found its audience which is niche but good, now they can stabilise at 30+ mil per month
In regard to FFBE the Global side announced shut down at the end of October while the JP side just celebrated its 9th Anniversary and on JP at least since they won’t have to worry about translation anymore it won’t cost that much to keep it in operation and Square Enix gachas have this weird phenomenon where the JP versions outlast their Global by a long time as Record Keeper on Global got shut down 2-3 years ago but is still alive on JP and the same might be true for FFBE as it is much bigger than Record Keeper.
Tgis was truly our LimbUS Company
Wuwa still beat Honkai Impact 3rd. Kuro win.. true HI3killer
I genuinely dont want wuwa to die, I aint no Kuro bot, heck I started playing 2 weeks ago, I genuinely enjoy the characters, the fast paced gameplay and other aspects, I hope it doesn't die
It’s not gonna die lol. They are making good revenue it’s just not reported here, just ignore the haters bc they will always be there. Hoyo community is quite toxic from long before Wuwa existed
@@QMS9224 They make good money, its just a secret. Isnt it funny? They have a problems, and its true. Mobile gaming is huge in China, pc revenue much smaller. Its not a reason to quit, game will not die so fast, but it will be a good sign to devs that something is wrong. I hope they will focus on things at wich they are good, and stop trying complete with genshin. They dont need that huge boring dead open world at all. Game will be so much better if they just have more characters, more combat and party systems, more advanced fights. Close world like in zzz suits wuwa much better.
It won't die anytime soon. The money it made in the first few months alone is probably enough to keep it running for a few years lol
But I do hope they recover from this. I mean it was their own decision to hand out a 5 star for free and this early into the lifespan of the game, too. They knew the loss they would incur from that, it's the same every time they release a free limited character in PGR as well, so they should be prepared for this.
they will not die anytime soon, even PGR still running great and had a collab this patch. its just they don't compete on top level like we expected to
@@АлександрШестикрылов omg only if u had this much clear view bout your life
I think Xilonen and the first two days of Nahida will be around 40 million again. It seems Genshin has settled around there. The only characters I see breaking things open would be Mavuika and if we ever get Capitano.
Robussy is so powerful. Nice job, Reverse: 1999.
Remember, Wuthering Waves just released its new patch just 2 days ago with Shorekeeper and the Black Shores.
First 3 days of banner was included in this chart. And thats the time for most of profit. In next month they will have only rerun. So revenuje may be even worse.
@@АлександрШестикрылов I honestly, don't believe that completely. I believe its the first week to the last few days. Because of "Fear Of Missing Out".
Still waiting for the lads gameplay🤨
Still waiting too👋 popcorn ready n everything ☺️✨🍿
Glory to Project Moon! o7
10:13 You really believe these calculations, they just divided WUWA's income from last month by two 13,500,000/2=6,750,000 because he doesn't know the real income,or they are just haters lol😂
They are not completely true but most accurate also it was 10M not 6.5million. the list was updated, many games went up by 2 or 3 millions.
HSR is just the perfect mobile gacha game. It deserves all the money it earned. I just wish we could see PC revenues as well.
people keep saying that the data is missing from pc players etc are on massive cope. The playerbase for most if not all of these games is mobile and thats where the main playerbase resides. Very few players play on pc....and if youre making that excuse for wuwa....you have to for the other games as well. How stupid can yall be?
What a joke when relying on sensor tower this early when wuthering waves and other game got update
wuwa is 10.5m now, so wat?
@@broiscapping i'm talking about sensor tower? Does you have a problem?
@@bachkhoi9450 where did they post the update?
@@abn3254 on the website gacha revenue. The number got change
I mean it's kinda hard to not be top 1 when you release 4 banners of meta units at the same time 🤣
It is a factor, but I don't think this effect that much cause people's salary not increase 4 times so it doesn't really matter whether there are 2 banners 4 banners, or even 100 banners people only have money to pull 1 or 2 banners at most.
@@MuYi-Shawn You understimate whales
@@Kyle81290 really? I don't think whales are willing to pull rerun banners cause they already max out everything when those banners first release.
@@MuYi-Shawn Bold of you to assume that everyone started playing since day 1
Genshin killer my but the game isnt even in the top 10 thats what kurodogs get for badmouthing Hoyo
Billion dollar company defender spotted "don't badmouth my billion dollar company, reeee !"
Dawg this is just sad. Hoyo asked you to do tricks on it too?
I guess this is what happens when you make a clone game with a reskin Black Swan. Reskin Black Swan flopped but no worries Camellya will save the game. Don't worry because when Camellua flops WW, 2.0. will save the game.
I am happy for HSR because I play it too. This is probably early of September, shorekeeper is released on 28th or 29th of september, so this must be...idk... might not be that accurate. Also there's a ton of free stuffs etc during 1.2 patch of wuwa. So wuwa still good and probably will go up again on 1.4 to 2.0+. Shorekeeper is really good (A must pull) and the story too. Let's wait for october revenue update.
Wow, seems like women in CN really love husbando game.
What’s with the WuWa animosity in comments? Just let people enjoy the game and stop hating for absolutely no reason
It's more making fun of kuro bots who thought Wuwa was going to kill Genshin than hating the game itself.
@@acetrainerx1346 you shouldn't be bothered by these comments if you have conviction in the game. After all, revenue isn't an indicator of quality right?
Or, perhaps, maybe there's a subconscious part of you that realises WuWa isn't the perfect game it's touted of being?
They really want to EOS the game with their yaps and inaccurate statistics. Typical behavior of stockholm syndrome hoyoshills, they can't live without bashing a competitor of their overlords.
Anyways I really enjoy this patch, and for the quality Kuro is putting up right now I don't think its going EOS at any point in time, plus only Kuro know what the real revenue is, I don't why people are treating this chart like a holy gospel that a game will fail even if its in the lows 10M. Even PGR survived with lower revenue.
@@acetrainerx1346 also, where was this measured take before WuWa's release? I distinctly remember the community spouting 'mint', '3 years 3 pulls' 'xyz could never' memes prior to launch?
I remember it because I was part of that crowd. But it turns out that WuWa is just another turd in a long line of turd games.
Agree, this revenue is causing too much toxic and some idiot take that seriously
This wuthering waves situation is very concerning, it's snowballing. I'm kind of a whale there, i have 2 s6r5 limited characters, and I'm getting worried about spending more money on a game that might die on me anytime. If it feels like a game is dying, it'll become a self fulfilling prophecy
7:55
BRO JUST PROCEEDS TO DRINK COPIUM 😂😂😂
Ngl that made me laugh so hard
I'm just glad that Reverse 1999 is doing well, thought the game would EOS months ago.
Wuthering Waves makes sense honestly. They released Zhezhi a character who had a lukewarm response from the community due to her face design, and then they gave out the second banner character for free. There was almost 0 reason to spend last month.
With Shorekeeper, I have already had the streamer I follow open the game back up and grab 3 copies of Shorekeeper.
PS. My game ranking is ZZZ>HSR>Genshin=WuWa right now. So don't jump to the conclusion that I'm a Kuro apologist, if anything Kuro annoys me.
True. But first days of new patch are included in charts. And thats where the majority of whale profit is. Next month without new chars can be even worse.
7:57 Just add more salt in the wound.
Tower of Fantasy at least did not drop to single digits until the 2.0x (After a year) banner if I recall.
Anyway, Tower of Fantasy 🤝 Wuthering Waves.
Nah, they dropped just as soon. They are following a very close path one from the other
Its important for the game to establish a strong, predictable baseline of core audience revenue. Regardless of banner, character, patch, anything, whales/casuals will still spend on welkin, battlepass etc... if the baseline is halving monthly reaching new lows, it simply means the core audience is shrinking fast and/or too volatile, which is never a good thing.
Strong baseline, predictable revenue is important for internal operations and hedging uncertainties against more and more incoming rivals to this gacha space (open world or not). Long story short, dropping this fast to single digits is a very worrying sign. Game of this caliber needs a much higher baseline to justify investing in ongoing developments.
Tower of Fantasy dropped even faster, so the more interesting question is if WuWa will recover, or even if they will stay on this level, that would be fine, too.
If they keep dropping as low as ToF, tho... well it's still gonna be a good game, just not the most successful one lol
@@JJKMagic I don't have cn numbers for tf first months, but looking only at global, tof made in 5 months 67M, against 64M from ww.
5th month tof 6M, ww 4M
6th month tof 2.8M.
My expectations for ww is to get a little better, with 6M(global, 12M worldwide) in October. But that would still keep it on same level as tof overall.
Can we talk about the love for love and deep space
Then .. Can we also agree that there are a lot of ppl who play both genshin and zzz on PC as well? It’s not like wuwa is the only game that is awful to play on mobile , come on now .
WW does not surprise me considering the free Xiangli Yao
Edit: Also most people play on PC and this chart only shows mobile sales iirc
Data got updated. Are you gonna make an update or are you happy to keep spreading misinfo?
Shoekeeper banner missing data, 50M revenue. For sure.
You wanted to say 0.5M revenue - dead game buddy
@@MrMarcuskane Let me guess m1n0rs? Its sad seeing you in this state lil bro😥😥😥
I mean im still gonna play Wuwa cause I find it enjoyable. Hsr is still my favorite as I love JRPG. would love for that Persona gacha game to come whatever it was called though :( but prob gonna be awhile for that if it even happens. also are these comments just rage bait or do yall seriously take this shit that seriously. its a game 😭
i'm legitimately embarrassed to be a genshin player because of people like these, it's very clear that they never leave the house and have nothing real going on in their lives.
@@kian239your comment is very embarrassing, imagine feeling guilty for some people in “your” single player game community lol, it’s not that deep, bitchless and jobless comment
seriously, I play genshin, hsr, pgr and wuwa at the same time and I enjoy all of them maybe because of my dark aesthetic love I kinda love wuwa more but still I can't understand why people hate others games as if they own the company I mean there are people who create this game and they really work hard we should at least respect their hard work
LnD is not surprising because women finally have a game that caters to them exclusively; a lot of gays too and they finally have reason to spend all their life savings on 3D heartthrobs.
Hatsune miku casually dropping from 8 mil do 4 mil and he says no word about it 💀 6:06
pjsk is the only true f2p gacha game out there so it's honestly surprising that they even managed to get 4 mil
@@turnip3475 frr
8:41 oh yes it's missing data as always
I never hated the game, i actually really liked the combat and dynamic dialogue animations + climbing and running qol they put in and hoped genshin to compliment them
But wuwa's fan's always went on my nerves (not saying hsr or genshin fans are saints but stil) i never saw anyone talk about or compliment wuwa for the sake of wuwa , the word genshin was always present in any sentence that comes out of their mouths about wuwa
Their praises felt like forced out of spite for genshin (and hsr and zzz to a lesser extent) and not for actually liking the game
Yo, fr. I would've been so much happier about Wuwa if I had not been exposed to the online vocal minorities that have Genshin living rent-free in their heads (assuming that these are actually the minority).
It's not missing tho
this data includes 48 hours of Shorekeeper
Most of us just play the game and don’t talk much or be online lol. It’s a fun game, the only reason we would speak up is when we see crazy hate for no reason (like in this comment section). It’s just a fun game with mostly unreported revenue from pc. I’m a former genshin player and I never shit on the game genshin was peak for me for a long time from when it came out. I just got bored and moved on, nothing against the game
@@HanabiChairit is missing the data is only until 24th of September
WE SAIYANS HAVE NO LIMTS 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔊🔊🔊
LETS CHARGE TOGETHER AT FULL POWER!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
People are complaining HSR is only played on mobile, that's why it is no.1, but you know what's crazy, I joined many content creators discord server to play PvP and found out that 70-80% people there are playing in PC, myself and my friends included....many whales and dolphins are playing HSR on PC, only normal express pass and monthly pass users plays on mobile except some exceptions.....
because most Discord users are on PC, duh
@@YumiSumire discord also is available on mobile, some players were playing from mobile too
Ikr, people coping that most WuWa players play on PC but they forgot that all Hoyo games are also on PC
The funny part is that LADS is actually mobile EXLUSIVE but hardly anyone seems to take that into consideration. So while these charts are only estimations and not accurate in the slightest, for LADS they are much closer to their total revenue compared to the gachas which are on multiple platforms
I play on both pc and mobile, but always pay by iPhone. It’s just easier with Apple Pay lol
Mtfk keep treating Sensor tower like it's the bible of gaming longevity :)))
Imagine using a website where it is stated that all of its source are solely estimation and not even the real deal then proceed to act like you are some kind of expert data analyst is hillarious
I honestly think Wuthering Waves will habe better revenue next month, but i do think the game will very close to Punishing Gray Raven as in revenue, it wont get close to Love and Deepspace. This patch where they gave a free 5 star and nobody cared that much for them was a terrible mistake. The game was too young for them to just give a T5 for free. It would be better if they start to give event weapons or new 4 star characters on events.
they really need to tap that low end device market because that's the most spender are (or better yet make official WuWa cloud for pc and mobile). You really cant just ignore mobile market in asia especially south east asia.
So this is the result from the Wander in Wonder banner from LaDS,,, doesn’t surprise me tbh
As long as wuwa is up n running I don't give a f how much they earn. Ima keep playing as long as I can 🗿
crazy
We will pray for your sacrifice. Amen.
Me over here just enjoying playing Punishing Gray Raven and Honkai Star Rail. Didnt know people fight over this stuff in the comments lol.
Hahaha.. Ikr! Like I just came to check the comments and man I was surprised to see people going against each other as if they were in a war. So petty!
I mean, PGR is objectively the superior game, yep
The economy is down in the dumps..but mind you..despite this..hoyo still made 150m this month on mobile alone..so you could say, all platforms included, probably 300m in total across all their games...absolutely diabolical.
I wouldn't be surprized LaDs is populer in CN bc those CN girls have thicc wallet and i heard someone literally rented a yacht on zayne's birthday like what??????
Ain't no way Wuwa dropped off after giving the new limited guy for free. Nobody saw this coming.
@@darkgrundi9543Lmao
Hsr was banking on 1.6 patches despite free ratio cuz they just sell the first limited harmony character, pacing your banner is an important strategy
Yeah but nobody expected less than 10m revenue
@@AraYuannnWasn't the kafka rerun in the same banner that Dr ratio?
Those who saying Kafka did it because she is hyped,wuwa revenue wouldnt change much even if they release a hype character. We have seen this with revenue of months in which several hyped character released.
from Genshin Killer to “As long as the game survive, Wuwa is ok” 😂
Whoever said that besides genshin players spreading it. Idk
@@dougjrr only genshit players were saying that wuwa - killer. Nobody else was. so...
@@Morkibay lmao the Kuro CEO literally said that: th-cam.com/video/pyNCN7PPOTY/w-d-xo.htmlm37s
Timestamped for your convenience cutie
@@youngsinatra4182 copium overdose
@@kingsimba9513 where did anyone said that it was a genshin killer. The CEO only said "as long as we survive" which was always the case
Try harder cutie
Wuwa will not go up anymore - because players quit and its nit getting new. The last chance was Black Shores and it failed.
And that should be the least of ur concern or.. the downfall of WuWa feeds ur ego or some..? i dont get the hate tho (not defending the game.. im just curious why ppl is waiting for the downfall of WuWa)
@@maxkenhadn Because the fandom is insufferable. Imagine if Genshin went in a similar downward spiral. Vultures would certainly feast in a similar if not greater fashion.
@@maxkenhadn because bad products should be harshly reprimanded.
It's also definitely not missing data, otherwise ZZZ wouldn't pop off like it did compared to last month.
It's just that, wuwa has permanently failed to retain the vast majority of its day 1 players and also failed to get many new ones over time, it is what it is, I doubt the game is gonna die but long term I don't know if it's gonna improve a lot because Kuro's budget is likely getting smaller and smaller from this
@@kingsimba9513 You talk like Genshin is a cheap cash-grab. They don't treat their players the best but they still put more work than 95% of the gacha in this chart.
Whats painful having dragon ball legends being my first gacha is how hard it fell off as it continues to fall off 💀
Used to love that game man..
At least star rail is up there. Might try Lads just out of curiosity...
I bet 99.99% in these comment sections couldnt even make 10k usd per month. Including me 😂
I mean WuWa gave away a free unit so makes sense?
I want to see how the current 5* does
HSR did the same with Ratio and still increased its revenue by a lot im his patch.
2days if shorekeeper is included
Gonna do worse than Arlan
@@averagejohn2786 There was KAFKA RERUN LITTLE BRO
@@Klaip-w4f kafka who had middling sales on her first banner? 😂