he Battle of Rocroi, fought on 19 May 1643, was a major engagement of the Thirty Years' War between a French army, led by the 21-year-old Duke of Enghien (later known as the Great Condé) and Spanish forces under General Francisco de Melo only five days after the accession of Louis XIV to the throne of France after his father's death. Rocroi shattered the myth of invincibility of the Spanish Tercios, the terrifying infantry units that had dominated European battlefields for the previous 120 years. The battle is therefore often considered to mark the end of Spanish military greatness and the beginning of French hegemony in Europe during the 17th century. After Rocroi, the Spanish progressively transformed the tercio system incorporating more of the line infantry doctrine used by the French over time. It is curious that this battle is praised and the battle of Bicoca is forgotten, where France lost 3,000 Swiss mercenaries and Spain lost 0 and many other similar battles. Rocroi Battle: As for casualties, we know exactly that 3,826 men were captured by the French since there was a nominal report of this. Barely a month later, almost 2,000 of them had already been returned to Spain via Fuenterrabía. The dance of figures around the casualties on the Hispanic side is very large. There are authors who simply accepted French propaganda and openly affirm that Melo's army had more than 5,000 dead. The truth is that the most sensible calculation based on the sources of the time, such as those of the Duke of Alburquerque or Marshal Sirot, estimate the total casualties, between dead and wounded, between 3,000 and 4,000. We know that of the 95 Spanish captains present in Rocroi, only 4 died, such as Pedro de Porres Vozmediano and Juan de Barbón y Arango, from the Tercio de Castelví, the most punished of all. On the French side the casualties were very heavy. At this point in history it is worth stopping. The Battle of Rocroi has been sold ad nauseam as the total collapse of the Hispanic army in the face of the incipient hegemony of the French army. Well, two details are enough to throw such a discourse overboard. Firstly, the fact that the French negotiated the capitulation of the Spanish force constitutes a fact without parallel in open field battles in the 16th and 17th centuries. These types of endings occurred in sieges, where the besiegers offered an honorable surrender to the defenders when they had fought bravely and the walls had not yet been breached. Sometimes, even with an open breach, the besiegers gave the besieged the opportunity to surrender, if they understood that the fighting could unnecessarily increase the number of casualties on both sides. But in the open field the battles ended with the total defeat of the enemy, chasing the remains of his battered and unfortunate army. Rocroi was something unusual. The Duke of Enghien offered an honorable surrender to the Spanish for two main reasons: because of the threat posed by a force as large as Beck's, which was already in the vicinity of Rocroi, and because of the high number of casualties he was suffering. with each attack on the two compact squadrons that had formed the Spanish thirds and the remains of forces that still remained on the battlefield. It is important to highlight this point, since it is the only way to understand Enghien's haste in seeking a negotiated end to the battle. The Duke of Alburquerque pointed out that in the sample taken by Enghien from his army on June 15, 1643, just over 5,000 men were missing. This, together with the fact that it took the French duke more than a month to reorganize his army in Guise, clearly indicates that the French had extremely high casualties for a victory. To theorize, it is very likely that, if they had insisted on continuing to assault the Spanish formations, the French would have suffered a resounding defeat with the arrival of Beck's force. Enghien, one of the most brilliant minds in the French military field, was no stranger to this danger, hence his interest and haste in ending that battle as soon as possible.
We mustn't forget the disastrous defeat of France at Tuttlingen the same year, often eclipse by these battle. An historian said that: "the battle of Rocroi has its place in history due to the french propaganda and not by the consecuences".
The Battle of Rocroi took place on May 19, 1643 during the Thirty Years' War. It pits the Army of Flanders, a Spanish army commanded by Francisco de Melo, which was besieging Rocroi, and the Army of Picardy, a French army led by Louis de Bourbon, Duke of Enghien (the future Grand Condé). It is an important French victory, which marks the end of the military supremacy of the Spanish tercios and the beginning of the reversal of the balance of forces in Europe.
It is noticeable that you take great care of the staging in tune with the soundtrack, in the presentation, middle and end of the battle, both in the narration and in the selection of combat scenes, all very well summarized without the need to lengthen the video, or selecting enough units on the battlefield without it being too chaotic. You did a very good job! What's more, having the spanish tercios advance while Empire's TW Warhammer soundtrack plays is simply brilliant, it looks very powerful, it adapts very well to the atmosphere of the mod.
I have a question, you've played a total war saga troy before right? When it comes to duels in troy, can you use a duel to win an entire war in the game just by challenging another hero to a duel and then defeating them?@@SandokanBattles
Battle of Rocroi? Really? Man, you gotta be kidding me. Couple of days ago, I was watching some soccer between Spain and France and I said to myself: "Its so boring, lets look at that time when conflict between Spain and France got really interesting." So I read a "Battle of Rocroi" page on Wikipedia. Anyway great job as always man. Thank you.
Soldiers in formation, getting knocked down by cannon balls like bowling pins, and the wounded lay in the field until the battle is over. It's so odd that no one thought of creating combat medics during this period.
Gotta remember that rank and file back then were thought of as easily replaceable. Lose a load of men in a battle, easy, hit up the next couple of towns promising adventure, glory and a salary much better than that possible in whatever town. Of course, fail to mention the possibility of death or grievous injury. There was also the press gang option of just rounding up a bunch of guys and pointing them in the direction of the enemy.
@@jeffkodiac Probably @theCanelaFina meant that the Spanish were a minority in the Spanish Army. Mostly were Italians, Wallons or Germans who I think fled the battle soon leaving the Spanish isolated and outnumbered
he Battle of Rocroi, fought on 19 May 1643, was a major engagement of the Thirty Years' War between a French army, led by the 21-year-old Duke of Enghien (later known as the Great Condé) and Spanish forces under General Francisco de Melo only five days after the accession of Louis XIV to the throne of France after his father's death. Rocroi shattered the myth of invincibility of the Spanish Tercios, the terrifying infantry units that had dominated European battlefields for the previous 120 years. The battle is therefore often considered to mark the end of Spanish military greatness and the beginning of French hegemony in Europe during the 17th century. After Rocroi, the Spanish progressively transformed the tercio system incorporating more of the line infantry doctrine used by the French over time.
It is curious that this battle is praised and the battle of Bicoca is forgotten, where France lost 3,000 Swiss mercenaries and Spain lost 0 and many other similar battles.
Rocroi Battle:
As for casualties, we know exactly that 3,826 men were captured by the French since there was a nominal report of this. Barely a month later, almost 2,000 of them had already been returned to Spain via Fuenterrabía. The dance of figures around the casualties on the Hispanic side is very large. There are authors who simply accepted French propaganda and openly affirm that Melo's army had more than 5,000 dead. The truth is that the most sensible calculation based on the sources of the time, such as those of the Duke of Alburquerque or Marshal Sirot, estimate the total casualties, between dead and wounded, between 3,000 and 4,000. We know that of the 95 Spanish captains present in Rocroi, only 4 died, such as Pedro de Porres Vozmediano and Juan de Barbón y Arango, from the Tercio de Castelví, the most punished of all.
On the French side the casualties were very heavy. At this point in history it is worth stopping. The Battle of Rocroi has been sold ad nauseam as the total collapse of the Hispanic army in the face of the incipient hegemony of the French army. Well, two details are enough to throw such a discourse overboard. Firstly, the fact that the French negotiated the capitulation of the Spanish force constitutes a fact without parallel in open field battles in the 16th and 17th centuries. These types of endings occurred in sieges, where the besiegers offered an honorable surrender to the defenders when they had fought bravely and the walls had not yet been breached. Sometimes, even with an open breach, the besiegers gave the besieged the opportunity to surrender, if they understood that the fighting could unnecessarily increase the number of casualties on both sides.
But in the open field the battles ended with the total defeat of the enemy, chasing the remains of his battered and unfortunate army. Rocroi was something unusual. The Duke of Enghien offered an honorable surrender to the Spanish for two main reasons: because of the threat posed by a force as large as Beck's, which was already in the vicinity of Rocroi, and because of the high number of casualties he was suffering. with each attack on the two compact squadrons that had formed the Spanish thirds and the remains of forces that still remained on the battlefield. It is important to highlight this point, since it is the only way to understand Enghien's haste in seeking a negotiated end to the battle.
The Duke of Alburquerque pointed out that in the sample taken by Enghien from his army on June 15, 1643, just over 5,000 men were missing. This, together with the fact that it took the French duke more than a month to reorganize his army in Guise, clearly indicates that the French had extremely high casualties for a victory. To theorize, it is very likely that, if they had insisted on continuing to assault the Spanish formations, the French would have suffered a resounding defeat with the arrival of Beck's force. Enghien, one of the most brilliant minds in the French military field, was no stranger to this danger, hence his interest and haste in ending that battle as soon as possible.
We mustn't forget the disastrous defeat of France at Tuttlingen the same year, often eclipse by these battle.
An historian said that: "the battle of Rocroi has its place in history due to the french propaganda and not by the consecuences".
Is this the battle portrayed in Alatriste?
Yep. This is it.
Yep...😢😢😢
yea
yes
"dígale al conde que apreciamos su oferta, pero esto es un tercio español"
Awesome!
The Battle of Rocroi took place on May 19, 1643 during the Thirty Years' War. It pits the Army of Flanders, a Spanish army commanded by Francisco de Melo, which was besieging Rocroi, and the Army of Picardy, a French army led by Louis de Bourbon, Duke of Enghien (the future Grand Condé). It is an important French victory, which marks the end of the military supremacy of the Spanish tercios and the beginning of the reversal of the balance of forces in Europe.
It is noticeable that you take great care of the staging in tune with the soundtrack, in the presentation, middle and end of the battle, both in the narration and in the selection of combat scenes, all very well summarized without the need to lengthen the video, or selecting enough units on the battlefield without it being too chaotic.
You did a very good job!
What's more, having the spanish tercios advance while Empire's TW Warhammer soundtrack plays is simply brilliant, it looks very powerful, it adapts very well to the atmosphere of the mod.
thank you 😊
As always great video 😎
4 years outa retirement
Beautiful animation of the battle. Thanks for all the hard work.
thank you
I have a question, you've played a total war saga troy before right? When it comes to duels in troy, can you use a duel to win an entire war in the game just by challenging another hero to a duel and then defeating them?@@SandokanBattles
Battle of Rocroi? Really? Man, you gotta be kidding me. Couple of days ago, I was watching some soccer between Spain and France and I said to myself: "Its so boring, lets look at that time when conflict between Spain and France got really interesting." So I read a "Battle of Rocroi" page on Wikipedia.
Anyway great job as always man. Thank you.
They spoke Japanese at Rocroi?
@@meilinchan7314 Good question.
The answer is that its the mod for Total war shogun 2 called pike & shot. So japanese is inevitable Im afraid.
ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਜੀ
My request: Battle of Gaugamela.
love video
Total war shogun 2 pike & shot? Mod
Excellent graphics! And it has a real feel for that time in the 1600's. Do they do an English Civil War one also?
Amazing beauty !!! What game and mods did you use please ?? :)
Informative and so pleasant to watch, I do like the artillery effects...and the uniforms...Greetings and big like from France!
More narration during the battle would greatly help overcome the boring animation.
Soldiers in formation, getting knocked down by cannon balls like bowling pins, and the wounded lay in the field until the battle is over. It's so odd that no one thought of creating combat medics during this period.
Gotta remember that rank and file back then were thought of as easily replaceable. Lose a load of men in a battle, easy, hit up the next couple of towns promising adventure, glory and a salary much better than that possible in whatever town.
Of course, fail to mention the possibility of death or grievous injury.
There was also the press gang option of just rounding up a bunch of guys and pointing them in the direction of the enemy.
To be fair, they will have wanted as many men in the firing line as possible, not as auxiliaries. Also medical care was pretty poor back then
He’s gone and done it a 10 minute plus video
Textures look great but there's some mayor problems with the animations, also it's really weird hearing them speaking Japanese
Dear Author, please name the music in begin of video, thank you.
this is soundtrack from Napoleon Total War
Is that the narrator for rome total war? How did You Get That Voice?
Line of battle, please.
A couple of days more and Spain reinforcements would have arrived. It would have changed the story. Until then Spanish army was outnumbered 1:2
Not at all , it was the French who were outnumbered
@@jeffkodiac Probably @theCanelaFina meant that the Spanish were a minority in the Spanish Army. Mostly were Italians, Wallons or Germans who I think fled the battle soon leaving the Spanish isolated and outnumbered
narration would have been helpful to understand the action
is this using shogun 2 game or medieval
shogun 2
"hougeki junbi!"."teki wo kakuninseyo!"
Sometimes Japanese is mixed in.LOL
ロクロワの戦い
Number of wars fought in the name of Atheism = Zero
noice
Cartoon
More info and less game playing,pls.
Agreed!
Lame
the first modernish "Napoleonic" battle with a french full-line of black-powder-guns armed soldiers.