Think about it - this is probably the largest individual conflict in videogame history. Thats something you just have to admire, even if you were personally shafted by the event itself.
Largest in resources used, yes. Largest in amounts of players participating at the same time, no. That currently still is the battle for 6VDT-H with 4070 participating players in the system at the same time.
i can imagine a ship juming into the battle and being on the wrong side because they didnt know what was going on and jsut going "OH FUCK GET US OUT OF HERE, GET US OUT OF HEEEERERLKSADASDJKDLASKDAS"
One thing for all of those people saying "This is so boring, those ships aren't moving, just staying still and shooting each other..."you obviously don't understand the sense of scale of this fight. Yes, in something like Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica etc the ships move around and maneuver a lot, but those ships barely get to around 1 kilometer long (Star Trek's NCC-1701-E Sovereign class Enterprise is just shy of 700 meters long, BSG's Galactica is something like 1.4 km long). Keep this as a point of reference: The virtually stationary Deep Space 9 space station has a max outer diameter just barely shy of 1.5 kilometers. Ships maneuvering around like that are definitely present and moving like that in this fight, but the images in the video are from a long range, wide-angle shot so such ships are so small you can't even really see them. Those really big bastards, the Titans, they range from 13 to over 18 KILOMETERS long. Let me say that in another way: The biggest ships in this fight were roughly as long as 12 DS9 stations lined up along their diameters. Now, do you really think something that big can move very fast? Here's another way of looking at it: the Executor-class Super Star Destroyer (the really big bastard from Star Wars 5 and 6) is said to be 19 kilometers long, roughly 300 meters longer than the biggest Eve Online Titan. Did you ever see that thing moving very fast or really doing anything other than lumbering into range and cracking off weapons? And we only ever saw one, maybe two at once in one fight in the movies? Something like 75 titans died in this fight, not to mention the many others that participated in and survived it. Even virtually all of those smaller ships you can see in the video are still Capital class ships, carriers and dreadnaughts to be more precise, all of which fall between 2 to 5.3 kilometers in length, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM longer than the main diameter of DS9, as well as being bigger than the standard Star Destroyers from the movies (maxing out at maybe 1600 meters). One other thing for comparison: a standard Borg Cube is a hair over 3 km on one side. "We are the Borg. Resistance is fuuUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE HELL ARE THOSE THINGS?!" Long story short, the quick and maneuverable ships are so bloody small and so far away you literally can't see them in this fight, but they are definitely there. This is definitely the absolute largest PvP fight in human history in any electronic video game, but not only that I can't think of any electronic media that has depicted a fight of this size not only in the number of ships involved but their effective total mass and estimated total crews as well. No movie, TV show, pre-rendered storyline video within another game (including single player ones) that I can think of has had one single fight contain this much...if anyone knows of one that beats the Bloodbath, and this really is a genuine request because I want to know about it, please let me know in a reply.
Yes there is one that matches the scale of this fight, if not larger. It is called Legend of the Galactic Heroes. There's even a super-weapon that weighs 60 Trillion tons. The fleet battles have up to 200,000 ships on each side.
you have Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator! you can put a fight with like 100k units fighting of course they are all bots but you can fight with taht amount of enttities
While I love this explanation, the smaller ships were actually not there in this battle...or more like told NOT to be there to help server lag. They were instead spread all over the cluster stopping capital reinforcements. They may have had some small ones but not fleets of small ships.
+maning04 I participated in that battle on a laptop. It was highly strenuous on the machine, but it worked. The real feat of technology is the game's servers that can accommodate the thousands of people in one place. And apparently they've just been significantly upgraded.
+Miles Kelley It does but its also kinda shit because of the 10% speed all quick decision based skills are out the window. Even 50% takes most individual decision making out of the game.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like hours in a nerd's life. [full disclosure: author is also a nerd]
CCP should memorialise this battle on-site by permanently leaving the 75 Titan wrecks and a debris field, with a floating plaque saying: *"Bills before skills."*
I tried it out but got bored after a month. The music is great so just playing the soundtrack in the background gives me most of the EVE online experience without running the game.
+Cameron Seitz Game was slowed for ~100 times in this B-R system because of the amount of people. There is no frame rate issues. Just Very slow action.
+Stonewall Pretty much. Eve players talk about B-R5RB the same way soldiers talk about Stalingrad. And before any asshole disputes my comment, I've been both.
+MegaFallout3Fan yeah, you know lorewise how much people needs to maintain controll over a titan? And which amount of them survives after lethal Doomsday strike?
Imagine being a person on the planet below, watching the sky light up with fire. Every flash reminding you that the only god left in the heavens is death.
+Xerofen Actually, it wouldn't. Most of the PL/N3 players that controlled the system had manned planetary networks. Meaning that yes, they could see the battle, and they would probably have thrown their headphones in the abyss, listening to all that radio chatter, only for it to drop dramatically as one of the Titans were destroyed.
All those ship you see are called the TITAN class ships they almost take 1 year to build and 1 another year for the pilots to fly now imagine 75+ of these ship's against eachother these ship's have there only weapon system that's named THE DOOMSDAY DEVICE and boy nothing stands in it's way of massive damage and it takes 10 min to fire one of those on another Titan On another note if you have a Titan ship in EVE then you are considered a threat that needs to be eradicated as soon as possible Hope this helps 👍
If the game were to run at 60fps, you are witnessing a game running at less than 10fps in real time, of course this footage doesn't quite represent what it looked like on a players screen.
What really amazes me is the amount of time people sat down and decided "Okay, let's make every video game battle ever look like child's play. And while we're at it, let's do it for a battle station." Nearly 24 hours, 1 entire day, was spent on EVE.
***** You were apart of the largest battle in video game history. People will talk about this for a very..very long time. Bro, it was sure as hell worth it.
Chris Hampton Yes; nerds will be talking about this battle for decades. The rest of the world will continue to not know what the hell this game is or that it even exists.
Garvielok Mostly an asset to your alliance/coalition actually. Also, you never ever should put your main in one. Only a dedicated alt, and save your main for logistics, isk making and stuff like that.
Marco Creen Not sure what you are talking but if you look closly at the timeline in my link you could see that as i said the last event took place at May 14, 23351 A.D. .... after Yulai Calendar its (YC 115)... and the Yulai Calendar first started at 23236 A.D. --> "Universal dating from this time follows the Yoiul Conference format and 23236 AD is equivalent to YC 0 in the new system." What mean Eve Online does not exist millions of years apart ^^
Marco Creen it wasn't millions of years by any stretch of the imagination, humans colonized the milky way over about 15k years. Then they found new eden and started colonizing, the EvE gate collapsed and those in new eden were trapped. It states that it took the Amarr roughly 8k years to get back into space and go interstellar, then a few hundred more years to today.
Everyone, the game is slowed down to prevent lag. There's over 5,000 people in this battle. If they kept it at normal speed everyone's computer would crash along with the server. Those "bubbles" make it harder for players to flee a battle.
German Rakitjanski My god, so any players who have ships that aren't good enough but joined because they thought the battle will end in a short time can't escape? Its like the imperial guard got sent in and they can't retreat until one side gives in.
If anyone ever writes a book or an article detailing the most amazing moments in gaming history, this should be one of them. I have no idea how this game works, only heard about ti a couple months ago, have never seen it in action before and probably couldn't hope to get into it now, but I know a landmark moment when I see it.
I don't think anyone else has mentioned it but if you are interested in EvE online history, there is an EvE history book that was recently finished. www.empiresofeve.com/
I'm not a player but I understand the amount of human time and effort that went into everything that led up to this massive battle. Losing those titans is no joke for the people that owned them, they are worth thousands in real dollars.
***** You can buy them for Trillions of isk, which comes out to about $3000 if you were going to sell game time for the money. The people that make these have thousands of players helping them. Its definitely not a one man effort, Takes months to build a single one. Its amazing.
Hosaki Solette I have always wanted to get into EVE but the learning curve seems too ruthless and the fact that in the beginning farming asteroids is pretty boring to me but after seeing this video i'm considering trying again.
jim jimson try joining the brave noobs... they take new players and u get to do fun stuff pretty fast... Brave Collective is the allince name evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Brave_Newbies_Inc. we take every one that wants to have fun...
@@machinegunpictures You still need to spend hours applying those skills to earn the ISK necessary to buy the next set of skills (and the equipment to actually use them), on top of waiting literal months to get to the best stuff. Next.
@@toasterboipencil Eve is a game of years, not hours. When you are first starting out, there are basically no 'wasted' skill points. You would invest just as much time into playing another game as you would eve, or not, it doesnt really matter considering your skills will still continue training, which would allow you to do more lucrative things later on, and earn more ISK.
Probably my favorite moment in gaming. I was piloting an Algos class destroyer and launching drones out the ass. If I remember correctly, I got assraped by a Myrmmidon. Extremely fun.
Someone forgot to pay rent making the area up for grabs and so CFC (a superpower) grabbed it. Original owners of area and their overlords (Pandemic Legion) got pissed cause they have a shit ton of assets that they cant take out from the area and so this $300k battle occurred....
For fuck's sake: to the people in the comments, the correct English is "would HAVE" not "would OF". I know "would've" SOUNDS like "would of", but it's a contraction of "would" and "have".
It's unfortunate that EVE online is just one of those games that's simply more fun to read about than to actually play. These crazy events like this are exciting to see, but what people tend to forget is the months, and sometimes YEARS, of mindless number crunching, resource gathering, and spreadsheet sorting. It's definitely not so much a game as a social experiment. But I'm glad such a game exists, if for no other reason that it breaks the mold of tired, repetitive WoW clone MMOs.
Well said! I've tried Eve a few years ago after having watched one of their trailers: "The Butterfly Effect" and I went crazy! Got the game, played it for a while...just enough to realize all that you said above and quit. It's a kick-ass game for those who have managed to live long enough to see those spreadsheets actually fly :)
No it's not! Have you ever played EVE? Of course to have Titans you have to be able to organize dozens of people to gather resources over huge amounts of time. But what did you want? Have everyone with the same boring best gear? That would be stupid. Oh wait... EVE is realistic, there's this huge ships, Titans, but they're like trying to buy a house all at once in real life, you have to work a lot, and that work just give even more meaning and satisfaction when you finally have the Titan. You can have plenty of fun and action in EVE without having to farm for hundreds of hours, though you might have to do it for dozens, still not that bad compared to leveling systems in WoW etc. You can have a lot of fun just by having a Thorax or some other ship that doesn't require thousands of hours. You can get a Thorax and put weapons and stuff in it and get a decent ship in the free trial, I got it. Then it was blown to bits T_T Still really fucking fun!
Yes, you can 'have fun' screwing around with low level stuff in EVE. But the more you play the more you start to realize what a tiny tiny tiny fish you are in a huge pool filled with giant sharks. You either become a remora hiding beneath one of those sharks, or get eaten by them. It would take an extremely rare type of person to start from scratch and really be able to manipulate things to strike out on their own in EVE and be successful.
This was the battle that inspired me to come into EVE. To it, I dedicate these words:: "In the past, we worshiped the life and death of Gods. But to look upon the Titanomachy is to realize, that we never knew what Gods were until we became them".
Was reading an article on EVE: Valkyrie and all I could think of was that one day, ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE, I will be able to partake in a battle of this scale while in a single man fighter. And it will be glorious. (For about 10 seconds before I unwittingly fly into a doomsday beam because I was gazing at all the pretty lights)
Sign me up, flying through THAT in a small fighter (hoping that the next second wont have you being vaporized) would be one of the most epic things I can imagine doing in any game.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like... tears in rain. Time to die"
this is the biggest online battle in gaming history, please cod and all you other 12 year olds take a seat and quit bitching that this is nothing. If you had ever played EVE online for more then a year you would see the battle for what it truly was. show some respect this went for 12 hours
"So some respect" HAHAHAHAHA What a fucking loser. Respect for what? A bunch of fucking losers wasting upwards of 20 hours for a silly space battle? Respect for what? All the real time and real money wasted...what a waste of life...it's a shame you're too fucking stupid to realize that.
Somewhere in another dimension or universe Giant monsters of metal fueled by Unholy energies engage in titanic struggles over worlds rich in the minerals they feed on devouring each other in beams of brutal light and guided lances of fire. There death cries in blinding white light that travels across there universe. Created to not just explore there universe but to destroy gods. Indeed these metal monsters have indeed become gods and from this battle the Multi-Verse trembles in fear for we are not seeing some battle in digital space but a window too another world.
Jack McSweeney Honestly big fights like this are so slowed by the ingame time dilation engine that we end up just watching Netflix on a laptop or our phones, then check back every few minutes to change targets or ping for repairs. Not even the Commanders stick around that long, they are usually relieved intermediatley.
Jack McSweeney If there's something wrong with watching Netflix for a few hours on end then you're complaining about a TON more people of various different demographics than just those who specifically participate in ~4-6k player EVE battles. Hell, some people went and ate, some went and slept for a bit. Hell, I read a novel during my last fight. I promise you there was minimal gawping. Hell, many people will straight up just leave the battle, or die. My point is you're trying really hard to enforce a stereotype that just isn't true.
I have neither the time nor the urge to play this game, but the fact that it exists is, by itself, a very good thing as it is a unique game that will most likely stay unique for ever. I never understood why people even consider that Star Citizen or any other space sim should try and take away the crown from EVE. Apart from space they share almost nothing and are really different. We'll most likely ever have this kind of moment in any other Space Sim, but EVE will never have any kind of the immersion so many other game tries to convey. Different game for different people that all share a same passion for video game. This gigantic battle is a monument to what gamers can achieve. Sure it was all for numbers on a spreadsheet, but when you see so many people engaging so many ressources and time, you can't help but wonder about the value of those "simple numbers".
No game can take Eve's Crown.. because its really in another dimension.. Star citizen they say.. its Req is ten times of Eve.. while trying to get same audience. It has different playing style.. Lets say Eve Valkyrie.. even it can kick SC's ass :)
Imagine being on the planet below, and watching this battle in your sky. Instant suntan! Pieces of ships (and bodies) would be raining out of orbit for months...
Tengou Then a green and blue moon of that planet in a close orbit that just happened to have that epic battle in the midnight sky. Sure as fuck gives me goose bumps thinkin' about it.
Battleships are too small to make out at this scale. All the ships you can clearly see are much, much larger than battleships. Battleships are roughly the same size as Star Trek's Enterprise, what you can see in this are anywhere between 4 and 30 times larger than that.
What's more amazing is that on either side of this conflict, there were hundreds of people in voice calls giving orders and calling out statuses and fire-times.
I would play the game if some day we have lifespans of 200-300 years or more. At this point in human history, I'm not comfortable dropping 3-5 years of my life just to get to the endgame in an epic universe, no matter how great it would seem.
This is not an endgame in Eve :) And for me it beats 3-5 years of seeing soaps or spending that time in bar. Al are different in how they spent their free time :) The social side of Eve is truly awasome
Mentioning "end game" and Eve Online in one sentence just goes to show that your a theme park MMO player that plays games like WoW/GW2/Aion or not a MMO player at all. There is no end game, a 3 month old player could of been just a use in this battle as a person piloting a titan for 5 years was. The person playing for 3 months could have got into fast ships and managed to get onto the enemy fleets position enabling their entire fleet to warp in and tackle a titan/enemy fleet causing the entire battle to be set off. The reason there is no end game and that a brand new player (with some common sense) can be just as useful as a Eve Veteran makes this game amazing. People that have never played it though will simple never understand.
There is no end game. Every fleet needs someone to tackle down other ships to keep them from running. On my main character Menaiya Zamayid (eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1309021) I was supporting the killing of battlecruisers just 3 days into the game. I was handed a ship, a fit to fly with and a job to do. The time you spend in the game just varies what you can do in the game, not where you can go. Generally after a year of playing, if you've focused on what you want to fly, you generally can fly as well as the guy who's been playing for 10 years. Longevity just gives you more variety, not quality.
This game looks like the kind of game that is super-addictive, yet once your game account is deleted or something you will not do those stuff to rebuild them all over again but just plain quit. So, although it was a sad day for the losing side, may be that guy who have lost all his ships finally has a reason and motivation to quit the game lol. Good luck to both sides, and hope that someone who has moved on will get a page in his life. Oh yeah, this game also seems to me a better game reading and watching than actually playing.
These huge ships you see there, the biggest ones, are Titans. Titans are not owned by one individual, as building a Titan is not a one man job. They are most likely owned by a corporation, or an alliance (A combination of corporations, working together). Depending on the corporation/alliance, the players may have been reimbursed for the ship loss, if they indeed owned the ship. I play the game, but have not been a part of something this big, so i can't say for sure, but i'm pretty sure this is how it works in most corporations/alliances. Besides, this was a huge battle, it set records. Why would they quit after becoming a part of Eve legend? :)
In a nutshell, organizations got pissed off at each other. Started an all out war. About 2200 people participated. And damaged totaled to about 500k USD. Also 70 titans were destroyed, which if you don't know are the largest ships in the game and insanely expensive. Also, it's not lagging, it's just time is slowed a lot down to prevent lag.
Hussein Ahmed This all started from 1 missed payment for sovereignty of a system as well. Just shows how one minor mistake can snowball into the largest battle that has ever occured.... i wonder what will happen to the guy that missed paying the bill xD
This battle (largest in EVE history) started because of a funny mistake)). Pandemic Legion group just "forgot" (!) to pay their rent for the B-R5RB system, and then russian aliance (CFC/RUS) jumped in at the opportunity. N3PL, which is at war with CFC/RUS for who knows how long, joined in and then it was an all out madness of two major groups fighting each other. CFC/RUS lost 14 titans, and N3PL lost 58 titans. In the end N3PL were left with no way to destroy russian titans and had to retreat. Thus it was the victory for russian aliance. The battle lasted for 15 hours! The total losses were estimated to be 8 trillion ISK, which is about 200 000$ of real life money!!! The previous largest battle (also started by mistake, when one titan accidentally entered enemy territory) costed only 25 000$...
By the lords of Kobol...... I've only started playing EVE a few days ago, because someone told me it's most massive scale MMO ever existed.....but this? And to think that you can't respawn your ship, and have to re-build her if you got one destroyed in battle..... How much does this battle cost? All those ships...
They said the battle costed 200 000$ in real cash, but cannot tell you how much in ISK ( in-game value in EvE online ) you can just imagine. That was hell of a battle damn dude gorgeous in HD
a plex costs 20 dollars, and its value in the beggining of 2014 was i believe around 500m isk. so divide 200000/20 and multiply that by 500m, and that should get you a value of some 5 trillion isk.
Get your ass to a null sec alliance and start out by fliyng tackle frigs for them. I recommend BRAVE. You'll end up in big battles here and there, and maybe you'll be lucky enough to be present in the next br5rb. There was a 1700+ about two weeks ago. These still happen.
We used to have fights like that, what would happen is the army in defense would not get lagged out and the people loading up the 'grid' would get a loading screen and then their wallet would flash to notify them the insurance of the ship had been paid as they'd been killed. For now this is MORE then good enough
SeditiousSpyke that's what would happen if you were one of the lucky few. For the rest of us, you would spend 3 hours staring at a black screen, listening to the battle on voice coms, and praying to whatever deity you believe in that you would eventually load grid in a ship and not in a station. And even then, if you were still alive and in the fight, you got to look forward to modules cycling red for 45 minutes before you could shoot at the next target. I don't care what anyone says, Time Dilation is still a far better burden to bear than the lag fests that were the major fleet fights of the past.
Considering these 4 min 37 sec speaks very well of what basicly went on for like 23h, involving more then the 2-3000 present in system at any one time... Well
Let us never forget the Battle of B-R5RB, where CFC/RUS and N3/PL fought the most horrific battle in the history of EVE, in which over seven and a half thousand capsuleers fought over a time span of 21 hours. In the aftermath of the battle, the remains of seventy-five Titans, and hundreds more capital-class ships drifted silently through space, a haunting reminder of what might just be the largest and most costly PVP battle in history. After the dust had finally cleared, the damage total surpassed ten trillion ISK, or over one-hundred thousand US dollars. Let it's memory live on through the veterans of the conflict for years to come...
now, i don't play EVE Online and i probably never will.. but damn, a massive battle of this scale and most likely THE biggest and the costliest in MMO history? that, i can appreciate.
+PorterPickUp yes the overlapping "bubbles" are interdiction probes that keep the ships you see in the video from jumping out of the system or warping off. This essentially keeps the enemy forced into fighting when they are likely to lose.
I know its been 4 months and you probaly already got your answer. But ill tell you anyways. Those are warp interdiction bubbles. They keep you from warping off
I can't for this battle to be turned into a comic, Dark horse agreed to make a comic series on EVE: online based on the famous events that has happened in the game.
Eeyup, they started doing that. The first comic will revolve around how a rogue director crushed "Band of Brothers" in 2008. Basicly leading to the rise of Goonswarm.
Two coalitions battled over a station that one of the coalitions missed a sovereignty payment on. Nearly 7k people participated in the battle, 300,000 dollars worth of damage, 21 hours of fighting, the loss of 75 titans, 1/3 of all titans ever lost in the game, and titans are around from 13-18 kilometers long, resulted from this battle.
essentially, of course if one were to actually dump that kind of cash into PLEX and sell into the market to get the in game currency it would crash the conversion rate, as the EvE market couldn't handle that many PLEX being dumped and remain stable.
I played this game for 4 years while studying at Uni. I had the time... And you really need a LOT of time. I started a corp, got up to 50 members called Phoenix Knights. I even ended up flying a carrier. I have to admit to rage quitting when I stupidly lost my carrier while transporting POS fuel. My scout jumped into an empty system I jumped just as it filled up with hostiles. It is a incredibly complex game. and it is not about maths, it is about PEOPLE. Diplomacy with real people with real things to lose. Battles show cowardice, heroics, the full range of real human emotion. When you system gets attacked and you try to rally your people to fight back instead of just paying a ransom demand, you feel like you are truly in the digital wild west. People afraid to lose ships and assets. Gutsy reckless people who fly into doomed battles. Powerful rich money makers who dominate and control things behind the scenes and bribe enemies to fight each other through proxies. I actually understand the real world far better after experiencing Eve. It is the real world without limits and on a far faster and quicker scale. I think I ultimately quit as I understood that the "digital west" was no longer wild. To truly "win" in this game you would require untold trillions of Isk and the territory to go with it. The game like the real world is now dominated by a rich few, and to ever come close to that level would be a uphill struggle for many years and it would require as much dedication as a full time job. I went back to the real world.
According to EVE lore the sound is simulated and transferred to the capsuleer. "As you know there is no sound in space, but when we were developing the capsules we found that people wanted to use as many of their senses as possible, thus we added the sound. By letting a computer create three dimensional sound we also add to the awareness you have while in battles, for instance." (The Jovian Wetgrave, Chapter 3)
This is pretty insane, I played only 20 hours of EVE, but it was enough for me to realize how amazing the game is, it would certainly be a game I would frequent in if it wasn't so statistically based and grindy, for those who don't know those bubbles are anti-warp fields, you can counter them, but with that amount it would be impossible, you can only really see the major weapons there and a lot of the lasers, but if you zoomed in you would see missiles, drones, torpedoes, railgun projectiles, etc. I also recall from a article that there was multiple other similar battles happening across surrounding systems, and that some of the well equipped titans were worth over 4000, or even 5000 dollars.
there is something so incredibly epic about a fight like this. It's not even the size of it that makes it so epic but the fact that it's totally player driven. I used to play Shadowbane years ago so I can really appreciate a game that puts players into a world that allows them to forge whatever outcome they want. I would have loved to have been a part of this win or lose.
thenoobfactor Not even close actually. The last I read about it, they were going to cap the servers at around 2000 or so. That may have changed but I don't know.
I was there on the Russian/CFC side and we burned them all. 59 of PL/N3 titans and 11 Super Carriers were destroyed and we lost 16/3. R.I.P. madafakas and don't trash talk in Amamake local chat.
Memories !! My dreadnaught did survive after we called the retreat, 14 hours of battle but we lost, anyway soon after i collapsed to the floor crawling to my bed..
***** The first 'big' war was known as 'the Great Northern War' and happened in 2004. Pretty much everyone was involved in some capacity, although the fighting itself was limited to the regions Venal, Tenal and Branch. Of course, there weren't that many players then but relative to how many there were it was still one of the bigger wars in EVE.
deserves a more detailed report + video, longer as well, including names of titans involved, especially those who were destroyed and when, some talk about tactics involved, what's going on when, analysis from pilots involved, the works (like someone would do an epic football match).
superkupa Nemo tbh, probably not very well. Besides, a fight like that won't happen for quite a long time. It takes a long time to build titans and supercarriers and the B-R fight was the first time in eve history that around 200-250 thousand USD was lost in a single battle. I doubt anyone will be fielding shit like that for a long long while.
DrkKnightRider perhaps not. Try to count how many titans and supercaps these massive coalitions have lost over the last 24 months and look how they just come back for more the next month. Sure their capital numbers might be low after the battle, but they will produce back the capitals they lost (if they haven't already before the battle). Besides these alliances churn out capitals on a constant basis, in some ways supercaps and titans are expendable now. The loss of these ships hurt their image more than their wallet or war machine capability.
Wiryan Tirtarahardja I imagine the fights will dissolve into lesser and lesser fights to cope with the extreme losses incurred in the past month alone for both sides. However both sides will continue to pour resources into the war until it is reduced to a mere skirmishes. I see PL's alliance winning out this type of war scenario though, purely from an outside view. I see a battle of attrition favoring Pandemic in this case, but I could be proven wrong of course.
EVE online is absolutely amazing with its epic battles and wars and everything and reading about it makes it seem like the best game ever, unfortunately the game is too in-depth, stat based, tactical and just too hardcore for a casual player like me. I could never dedicate myself to such a deep game. Amazing video nonetheless
![[Eve Online PvP] B-R5RB. Beginning of the Great Battle.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lvB2nRGMl2c/mqdefault.jpg)
Think about it - this is probably the largest individual conflict in videogame history. Thats something you just have to admire, even if you were personally shafted by the event itself.
Largest in resources used, yes. Largest in amounts of players participating at the same time, no. That currently still is the battle for 6VDT-H with 4070 participating players in the system at the same time.
Jibes in a single system is true but in order to prevent N# reinforcement CFC/RUS closed the near system so about 6000 and more took part in it.
Let this be a lesson to all of you....
Pay your damn bills.
***** I think that the missed payment that started this was ridiculously small too.
***** I think the real world equivalent would be a missed payment of 1$ starting WW3
Dan Hutchinson
LMFAO!!! HAHAHAHAHA I'd break a $20 bill for that...
Dan Hutchinson the real world equivalent is world war one lol
*Tactical Nuke Incoming*
I wonder if the people whose ships were on the frontline were just like "fuck it! THIS IS AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH" *Transmission over*
i can imagine a ship juming into the battle and being on the wrong side because they didnt know what was going on and jsut going "OH FUCK GET US OUT OF HERE, GET US OUT OF HEEEERERLKSADASDJKDLASKDAS"
One thing for all of those people saying "This is so boring, those ships aren't moving, just staying still and shooting each other..."you obviously don't understand the sense of scale of this fight. Yes, in something like Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica etc the ships move around and maneuver a lot, but those ships barely get to around 1 kilometer long (Star Trek's NCC-1701-E Sovereign class Enterprise is just shy of 700 meters long, BSG's Galactica is something like 1.4 km long). Keep this as a point of reference: The virtually stationary Deep Space 9 space station has a max outer diameter just barely shy of 1.5 kilometers.
Ships maneuvering around like that are definitely present and moving like that in this fight, but the images in the video are from a long range, wide-angle shot so such ships are so small you can't even really see them. Those really big bastards, the Titans, they range from 13 to over 18 KILOMETERS long. Let me say that in another way: The biggest ships in this fight were roughly as long as 12 DS9 stations lined up along their diameters. Now, do you really think something that big can move very fast?
Here's another way of looking at it: the Executor-class Super Star Destroyer (the really big bastard from Star Wars 5 and 6) is said to be 19 kilometers long, roughly 300 meters longer than the biggest Eve Online Titan. Did you ever see that thing moving very fast or really doing anything other than lumbering into range and cracking off weapons? And we only ever saw one, maybe two at once in one fight in the movies? Something like 75 titans died in this fight, not to mention the many others that participated in and survived it.
Even virtually all of those smaller ships you can see in the video are still Capital class ships, carriers and dreadnaughts to be more precise, all of which fall between 2 to 5.3 kilometers in length, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM longer than the main diameter of DS9, as well as being bigger than the standard Star Destroyers from the movies (maxing out at maybe 1600 meters). One other thing for comparison: a standard Borg Cube is a hair over 3 km on one side. "We are the Borg. Resistance is fuuUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE HELL ARE THOSE THINGS?!"
Long story short, the quick and maneuverable ships are so bloody small and so far away you literally can't see them in this fight, but they are definitely there. This is definitely the absolute largest PvP fight in human history in any electronic video game, but not only that I can't think of any electronic media that has depicted a fight of this size not only in the number of ships involved but their effective total mass and estimated total crews as well. No movie, TV show, pre-rendered storyline video within another game (including single player ones) that I can think of has had one single fight contain this much...if anyone knows of one that beats the Bloodbath, and this really is a genuine request because I want to know about it, please let me know in a reply.
Yes there is one that matches the scale of this fight, if not larger. It is called Legend of the Galactic Heroes. There's even a super-weapon that weighs 60 Trillion tons. The fleet battles have up to 200,000 ships on each side.
this is so boring
you have Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator! you can put a fight with like 100k units fighting of course they are all bots but you can fight with taht amount of enttities
While I love this explanation, the smaller ships were actually not there in this battle...or more like told NOT to be there to help server lag. They were instead spread all over the cluster stopping capital reinforcements. They may have had some small ones but not fleets of small ships.
@Jaim Diojtar if they're bots, that doesn't count. Over 4000 REAL PEOPLE participated in this simultaneously. That's the epic part of it.
my computer would shit out smoke if I was there
+maning04 I participated in that battle on a laptop. It was highly strenuous on the machine, but it worked. The real feat of technology is the game's servers that can accommodate the thousands of people in one place. And apparently they've just been significantly upgraded.
+Miles Kelley
It does but its also kinda shit because of the 10% speed all quick decision based skills are out the window.
Even 50% takes most individual decision making out of the game.
Tidi brodder.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like hours in a nerd's life.
[full disclosure: author is also a nerd]
Oh my god, you defined a generation
made my day
Nicely quoted from Blade Runner and adding your own to it.
Wasn't it Tännhauser? Either that or Tannhäuser.
Anyways I love me Blade Runner speech.
were you there in that battle?
So all this started because someone forgot to pay their rent?
Badass MLG 360 no scope Stormtrooper if you think about it, many wars we had in history start over stupid shit xD
Remember when some italy states went to war over a bucket?
Badass MLG 360 no scope Stormtrooper aaah, classic humans, they never change!
Badass MLG 360 no scope Brotherhood of steel KnightThat's one bad ass mother fuckin land lord
Badass MLG 360 no scope Brotherhood of steel Knight remember the trojan war xD it started because of a woman
CCP should memorialise this battle on-site by permanently leaving the 75 Titan wrecks and a debris field, with a floating plaque saying:
*"Bills before skills."*
they already did it will be in game at 31th.
Demastikus banana omfg I️ died! The 31th? Try saying that literally sounds like mike Tyson hahahah 31st
*end of the video* All this over a missed bill payment.
so beautiful :')
*claps, crying* I-its beautiful!!! :')
Who knew tax evasion could be so destructive?
!!! Now i wouldn't want that to happen :O
Shadowkey392 Capone?
EVE: the best game I'll never play....
I tried it out but got bored after a month. The music is great so just playing the soundtrack in the background gives me most of the EVE online experience without running the game.
@@doodlePimp how can you get bored?
@pcf how do you get bored? It doesn’t make any sense. I’ve been playing for a while and i found THE activity i wanted to do around the 3 day mark.
@@agentambridge672 probably his spec couldn't run EVE smoothly. Or this game was too complicated for him
come play with us... We have cookies/freehugs. :D
Let us all take a moment of silence for many of the great pilots that lost there lives bravely fighting in this horrendous battle. 😢
+Cameron Seitz It's okay they were all just clones and are all still alive and flying today so fuck it...
+Joshua DeMott I can already imagine the nightmare that was the frame rate in that battle.
ikr lol looked cool though its the coolest active eve scene that i've seen on video...
+Cameron Seitz Game was slowed for ~100 times in this B-R system because of the amount of people. There is no frame rate issues. Just Very slow action.
+Cameron Seitz We live forever :-)
So this is like: the Stalingrad of online gaming?
+Stonewall Pretty much. Eve players talk about B-R5RB the same way soldiers talk about Stalingrad. And before any asshole disputes my comment, I've been both.
+Stonewall Ya except it actually isn't anything like that at all because a million or so people didn't actually die.
+MegaFallout3Fan but shitloads of money wasted so yeah
+MegaFallout3Fan yeah, you know lorewise how much people needs to maintain controll over a titan? And which amount of them survives after lethal Doomsday strike?
+MegaFallout3Fan "of online gaming" "online gaming" *online*
Imagine being a person on the planet below, watching the sky light up with fire. Every flash reminding you that the only god left in the heavens is death.
Being a person on a giant gas planet would remind me i'm in the wrong place at the wrong time :P
Gagarin I figured it was a gas planet but that would have ruin the metaphor.
+Xerofen Actually, it wouldn't. Most of the PL/N3 players that controlled the system had manned planetary networks. Meaning that yes, they could see the battle, and they would probably have thrown their headphones in the abyss, listening to all that radio chatter, only for it to drop dramatically as one of the Titans were destroyed.
beautiful words man
Reminds of the space battle above Noghri planet in Star Wars Expanded Universe(Or as Disney calls it now, "Legends")
I have no idea what I am looking at but it's awesome
Literally the largest battle in gaming history between hundreds of faction formed into two groups: The N3PL and the RUS CFC
Same though :D
😄😄 i was thinking the same thing
All those ship you see are called the TITAN class ships they almost take 1 year to build and 1 another year for the pilots to fly now imagine 75+ of these ship's against eachother these ship's have there only weapon system that's named THE DOOMSDAY DEVICE and boy nothing stands in it's way of massive damage and it takes 10 min to fire one of those on another Titan
On another note if you have a Titan ship in EVE then you are considered a threat that needs to be eradicated as soon as possible
Hope this helps 👍
If the game were to run at 60fps, you are witnessing a game running at less than 10fps in real time, of course this footage doesn't quite represent what it looked like on a players screen.
What really amazes me is the amount of time people sat down and decided "Okay, let's make every video game battle ever look like child's play. And while we're at it, let's do it for a battle station." Nearly 24 hours, 1 entire day, was spent on EVE.
I called in sick just to do this...
Still not sure if this is something to be proud of...
***** definitely is
***** You can always find a new job. Sovereignty over a system might pass but once in a lifetime.
***** You were apart of the largest battle in video game history. People will talk about this for a very..very long time. Bro, it was sure as hell worth it.
Chris Hampton Yes; nerds will be talking about this battle for decades. The rest of the world will continue to not know what the hell this game is or that it even exists.
Just think, millions of years from now, if humans are still around, something like this will more than likely happen.
+xExekut3x If that's true, then it's likely happened with alien races already. We just need to look for where it might have happened.
+xExekut3x pls, not a war because someone forget to pay their "this star system is ours because we payed for it" rent
+Hariz Izzudin *paid not "payed"
DeviousKid45 oh wow. I didn't noticed that lol
Faster than light travel is impossible, so this spaceship stuff is really just another brand of fantasy
I entered the game believing i would fly a titan within 2 years :P
Now after 5 years i finally gave up that dream...
Flying a titan isn't much fun.
The only reason to do so is to be an asset to your corporation.
Garvielok I'm more a "because i can" type of player :P
I absolutely love flying super caps even though there is no reason for me to do so ;)
Garvielok Mostly an asset to your alliance/coalition actually. Also, you never ever should put your main in one. Only a dedicated alt, and save your main for logistics, isk making and stuff like that.
No shit..
Well i just started a super cap account so who knows i might actually fly one after all in a few years ;)
just think, in a couple hundred, mabey thousands of years this might happen in reality
Marco Creen Not sure what you are talking but if you look closly at the timeline in my link you could see that as i said the last event took place at May 14, 23351 A.D. .... after Yulai Calendar its (YC 115)... and the Yulai Calendar first started at 23236 A.D. --> "Universal dating from this time follows the Yoiul Conference format and 23236 AD is equivalent to YC 0 in the new system." What mean Eve Online does not exist millions of years apart ^^
Marco Creen it wasn't millions of years by any stretch of the imagination, humans colonized the milky way over about 15k years. Then they found new eden and started colonizing, the EvE gate collapsed and those in new eden were trapped. It states that it took the Amarr roughly 8k years to get back into space and go interstellar, then a few hundred more years to today.
Marco Creen well you're wrong so deal with it
If we stop killing each other then maybe it'll.
Marco Creen gay
Everyone, the game is slowed down to prevent lag. There's over 5,000 people in this battle. If they kept it at normal speed everyone's computer would crash along with the server. Those "bubbles" make it harder for players to flee a battle.
I was curious about those bubbles. I assumed they were a system-wide shield setup of some sort, but your explanation makes more sense.
Tom Rogers Inside these bubbles majority of ships can't use warp drive, so they can't escape.
German Rakitjanski So... are the enemy ships also inside the bubbles, or are just the ones on what I assume is the defensive?
TorchyTehPyro - PC Games and Talk Shows!
Anyone inside those bubbles cannot warp. Friend or foe.
German Rakitjanski
My god, so any players who have ships that aren't good enough but joined because they thought the battle will end in a short time can't escape? Its like the imperial guard got sent in and they can't retreat until one side gives in.
im glad to say that i was in that fight, captain of one Titan ! and i did survive
the official news on eve's site stated no titan survived :(
@@apostasy128 actually, only a few survived on N3's side, the other side still had a few left.
Hello are you guys still alive? I'm in that ship too but i don't play anymore
@@vunknownvictory yep still kicking
@@MegaReinart cool☺
estimating costs at 11 trillion in-game currency or 300,000 dollars all because someone forgot to pay the bill
next time pay the fucking rent
"remember, billy, if you dont pay in time, in less than a week thousands of warships will come to obliterate you"
wonder what happened to that guy.
If anyone ever writes a book or an article detailing the most amazing moments in gaming history, this should be one of them. I have no idea how this game works, only heard about ti a couple months ago, have never seen it in action before and probably couldn't hope to get into it now, but I know a landmark moment when I see it.
Very well said, you have looked at the biggest fight the game has seen so far and it's been 2 years.
By some measures the battle between Circle of test and Panfam was bigger.
+Fsynchro Biggest multiplayer fight that has happened in any game anywhere
TheGrayMysterious eve online niw its free
I don't think anyone else has mentioned it but if you are interested in EvE online history, there is an EvE history book that was recently finished. www.empiresofeve.com/
I'm not a player but I understand the amount of human time and effort that went into everything that led up to this massive battle. Losing those titans is no joke for the people that owned them, they are worth thousands in real dollars.
***** I believe you can buy them, but eventually everything is measured in time -- how much is yours worth? :) Epic! Absolutely Epic!
***** You can buy them for Trillions of isk, which comes out to about $3000 if you were going to sell game time for the money. The people that make these have thousands of players helping them. Its definitely not a one man effort, Takes months to build a single one. Its amazing.
Hosaki Solette I have always wanted to get into EVE but the learning curve seems too ruthless and the fact that in the beginning farming asteroids is pretty boring to me but after seeing this video i'm considering trying again.
jim jimson If you join again, join bravenewbies they are what you need to discover the game without mining ;)
jim jimson try joining the brave noobs... they take new players and u get to do fun stuff pretty fast... Brave Collective is the allince name
evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Brave_Newbies_Inc. we take every one that wants to have fun...
Eve is far too much of a time commitment for me to play, but man these battles are insane!
ur skills train while ur offiline, next excuse...
@@machinegunpictures
You still need to spend hours applying those skills to earn the ISK necessary to buy the next set of skills (and the equipment to actually use them), on top of waiting literal months to get to the best stuff.
Next.
@@toasterboipencil Eve is a game of years, not hours.
When you are first starting out, there are basically no 'wasted' skill points. You would invest just as much time into playing another game as you would eve, or not, it doesnt really matter considering your skills will still continue training, which would allow you to do more lucrative things later on, and earn more ISK.
God damn.... It's like if the Covenant ships used their glassing cannons for combat...
Probably my favorite moment in gaming. I was piloting an Algos class destroyer and launching drones out the ass. If I remember correctly, I got assraped by a Myrmmidon. Extremely fun.
qbmax32 Hello, Algos!
I was a dominix neuting the titans, my alt was an archon holding down reinforcements.
@@lvpn1264 Lost a mach there. Lost a few Manticores in surrounding systems.
Someone didn't pay the rent and the spacelords got mad.
Someone didn't pay the rent on purpose more like :-p
Someone forgot to pay rent making the area up for grabs and so CFC (a superpower) grabbed it. Original owners of area and their overlords (Pandemic Legion) got pissed cause they have a shit ton of assets that they cant take out from the area and so this $300k battle occurred....
When we tell our grandkids of this day we will speak of it with glory and honor and teach them to always pay their bills
For fuck's sake: to the people in the comments, the correct English is "would HAVE" not "would OF". I know "would've" SOUNDS like "would of", but it's a contraction of "would" and "have".
It is a very rare thing indeed, but very few people speak English these days. It can get annoying but I've learned to live with it.
Dude this has been pissing me off for five years now. People continue to do it
It's unfortunate that EVE online is just one of those games that's simply more fun to read about than to actually play.
These crazy events like this are exciting to see, but what people tend to forget is the months, and sometimes YEARS, of mindless number crunching, resource gathering, and spreadsheet sorting.
It's definitely not so much a game as a social experiment. But I'm glad such a game exists, if for no other reason that it breaks the mold of tired, repetitive WoW clone MMOs.
Well said! I've tried Eve a few years ago after having watched one of their trailers: "The Butterfly Effect" and I went crazy! Got the game, played it for a while...just enough to realize all that you said above and quit. It's a kick-ass game for those who have managed to live long enough to see those spreadsheets actually fly :)
That is true :) but i am happy to read and watch what is going on in eve, always entertaining.
No it's not! Have you ever played EVE? Of course to have Titans you have to be able to organize dozens of people to gather resources over huge amounts of time. But what did you want? Have everyone with the same boring best gear? That would be stupid. Oh wait... EVE is realistic, there's this huge ships, Titans, but they're like trying to buy a house all at once in real life, you have to work a lot, and that work just give even more meaning and satisfaction when you finally have the Titan. You can have plenty of fun and action in EVE without having to farm for hundreds of hours, though you might have to do it for dozens, still not that bad compared to leveling systems in WoW etc. You can have a lot of fun just by having a Thorax or some other ship that doesn't require thousands of hours. You can get a Thorax and put weapons and stuff in it and get a decent ship in the free trial, I got it. Then it was blown to bits T_T Still really fucking fun!
Yes, you can 'have fun' screwing around with low level stuff in EVE. But the more you play the more you start to realize what a tiny tiny tiny fish you are in a huge pool filled with giant sharks. You either become a remora hiding beneath one of those sharks, or get eaten by them.
It would take an extremely rare type of person to start from scratch and really be able to manipulate things to strike out on their own in EVE and be successful.
And how long have you been playing EVE to be able to single handedly afford a wardec for two weeks?
This was the battle that inspired me to come into EVE.
To it, I dedicate these words::
"In the past, we worshiped the life and death of Gods.
But to look upon the Titanomachy is to realize,
that we never knew what Gods were until we became them".
well said
Was reading an article on EVE: Valkyrie and all I could think of was that one day, ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE, I will be able to partake in a battle of this scale while in a single man fighter.
And it will be glorious.
(For about 10 seconds before I unwittingly fly into a doomsday beam because I was gazing at all the pretty lights)
Sign me up, flying through THAT in a small fighter (hoping that the next second wont have you being vaporized) would be one of the most epic things I can imagine doing in any game.
N00bManiac7 It's only a matter of time, my son. Oh yes. It's only a matter of time.
DrkKnightRider I will patiently await this glorious day... I always dreamed of fights like this, beeing a part of this awesomeness!
Wait patiently!
fludblud Funny you mention that..........
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like... tears in rain. Time to die"
Epic video, epic music. This video has a dream-like quality, like a Frank Herbert novel come to life.
this is the biggest online battle in gaming history, please cod and all you other 12 year olds take a seat and quit bitching that this is nothing. If you had ever played EVE online for more then a year you would see the battle for what it truly was. show some respect this went for 12 hours
20 hours
no the longest went for 12 hours before they had a break is what i meant
"So some respect" HAHAHAHAHA What a fucking loser. Respect for what? A bunch of fucking losers wasting upwards of 20 hours for a silly space battle? Respect for what? All the real time and real money wasted...what a waste of life...it's a shame you're too fucking stupid to realize that.
Transprecious No
Jan Schulze Yes.
Somewhere in another dimension or universe Giant monsters of metal fueled by Unholy energies engage in titanic struggles over worlds rich in the minerals they feed on devouring each other in beams of brutal light and guided lances of fire. There death cries in blinding white light that travels across there universe. Created to not just explore there universe but to destroy gods. Indeed these metal monsters have indeed become gods and from this battle the Multi-Verse trembles in fear for we are not seeing some battle in digital space but a window too another world.
*Bunch of dudes in their vests and boxers gawping at their computer screens for hours on end.
Jack McSweeney Honestly big fights like this are so slowed by the ingame time dilation engine that we end up just watching Netflix on a laptop or our phones, then check back every few minutes to change targets or ping for repairs. Not even the Commanders stick around that long, they are usually relieved intermediatley.
Shurik Ozerov So it's still a bunch of dudes gawping at screens for hours on end...just different screens.
Jack McSweeney If there's something wrong with watching Netflix for a few hours on end then you're complaining about a TON more people of various different demographics than just those who specifically participate in ~4-6k player EVE battles.
Hell, some people went and ate, some went and slept for a bit. Hell, I read a novel during my last fight. I promise you there was minimal gawping.
Hell, many people will straight up just leave the battle, or die. My point is you're trying really hard to enforce a stereotype that just isn't true.
I read your comment while listening to the music of the video and I got shivers
Battle of Endor times a million.
I have neither the time nor the urge to play this game, but the fact that it exists is, by itself, a very good thing as it is a unique game that will most likely stay unique for ever.
I never understood why people even consider that Star Citizen or any other space sim should try and take away the crown from EVE. Apart from space they share almost nothing and are really different. We'll most likely ever have this kind of moment in any other Space Sim, but EVE will never have any kind of the immersion so many other game tries to convey. Different game for different people that all share a same passion for video game. This gigantic battle is a monument to what gamers can achieve. Sure it was all for numbers on a spreadsheet, but when you see so many people engaging so many ressources and time, you can't help but wonder about the value of those "simple numbers".
No game can take Eve's Crown.. because its really in another dimension..
Star citizen they say.. its Req is ten times of Eve.. while trying to get same audience. It has different playing style.. Lets say Eve Valkyrie.. even it can kick SC's ass :)
Imagine being on the planet below, and watching this battle in your sky. Instant suntan! Pieces of ships (and bodies) would be raining out of orbit for months...
That would definitely be cool, but that planet looks an awful lot like a gas giant, in which case it would be more like instant suffocation and death.
Tengou Then a green and blue moon of that planet in a close orbit that just happened to have that epic battle in the midnight sky. Sure as fuck gives me goose bumps thinkin' about it.
Never forget the brave men and women who fought and died on that day. o7
o7
***** 8==D
O7
Forgotten.
You sunk my battleship.
Battleships are too small to make out at this scale. All the ships you can clearly see are much, much larger than battleships. Battleships are roughly the same size as Star Trek's Enterprise, what you can see in this are anywhere between 4 and 30 times larger than that.
irllcd13 r/wooooooooooooooooooooooosh
This is probably the most interesting game that I will never play.
This could actually be happening somewhere out there in space you know? That's scary! :X
23 hours of battle because someone didn't pay the bills
What's more amazing is that on either side of this conflict, there were hundreds of people in voice calls giving orders and calling out statuses and fire-times.
Имхо, данное событие нужно как то отметить, там материала хватит для формирования небольшой луны, или как минимум пылевого диска.
После завтрашнего дт будет установлен монумент и множество обломков вокруг, в память об этой битве)
I would play the game if some day we have lifespans of 200-300 years or more. At this point in human history, I'm not comfortable dropping 3-5 years of my life just to get to the endgame in an epic universe, no matter how great it would seem.
This is not an endgame in Eve :) And for me it beats 3-5 years of seeing soaps or spending that time in bar. Al are different in how they spent their free time :) The social side of Eve is truly awasome
Mentioning "end game" and Eve Online in one sentence just goes to show that your a theme park MMO player that plays games like WoW/GW2/Aion or not a MMO player at all. There is no end game, a 3 month old player could of been just a use in this battle as a person piloting a titan for 5 years was. The person playing for 3 months could have got into fast ships and managed to get onto the enemy fleets position enabling their entire fleet to warp in and tackle a titan/enemy fleet causing the entire battle to be set off. The reason there is no end game and that a brand new player (with some common sense) can be just as useful as a Eve Veteran makes this game amazing. People that have never played it though will simple never understand.
There is no end game. Every fleet needs someone to tackle down other ships to keep them from running. On my main character Menaiya Zamayid
(eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1309021) I was supporting the killing of battlecruisers just 3 days into the game. I was handed a ship, a fit to fly with and a job to do. The time you spend in the game just varies what you can do in the game, not where you can go. Generally after a year of playing, if you've focused on what you want to fly, you generally can fly as well as the guy who's been playing for 10 years. Longevity just gives you more variety, not quality.
@@sp00l weird flex butt ok
The sheer scale of this battle is made even more bewildering when you realise that every one of those ships is each commanded by a real person.
im sure theres some multiboxers in the mix, but in general yeah
This system should be renamed Titans Fall
This game looks like the kind of game that is super-addictive, yet once your game account is deleted or something you will not do those stuff to rebuild them all over again but just plain quit.
So, although it was a sad day for the losing side, may be that guy who have lost all his ships finally has a reason and motivation to quit the game lol. Good luck to both sides, and hope that someone who has moved on will get a page in his life.
Oh yeah, this game also seems to me a better game reading and watching than actually playing.
There's a saying among EVE players. You never really quit. You only take long breaks.
Croaky I can confirm. More of an iron-clad creedo actually...
This is the only game you get bored of ocasionally but you NEVER get tired of. And it is the Only game that is Social Life friendly.
after participating in that battle, I bet that they found their motivation again. Just being a part of that unique experience.
These huge ships you see there, the biggest ones, are Titans. Titans are not owned by one individual, as building a Titan is not a one man job.
They are most likely owned by a corporation, or an alliance (A combination of corporations, working together).
Depending on the corporation/alliance, the players may have been reimbursed for the ship loss, if they indeed owned the ship.
I play the game, but have not been a part of something this big, so i can't say for sure, but i'm pretty sure this is how it works in most corporations/alliances.
Besides, this was a huge battle, it set records. Why would they quit after becoming a part of Eve legend? :)
I have no idea whats going on.
In a nutshell, organizations got pissed off at each other. Started an all out war. About 2200 people participated. And damaged totaled to about 500k USD. Also 70 titans were destroyed, which if you don't know are the largest ships in the game and insanely expensive. Also, it's not lagging, it's just time is slowed a lot down to prevent lag.
Woooow, this game seems so complex haha, pretty insane tbh, thx
Hussein Ahmed This all started from 1 missed payment for sovereignty of a system as well. Just shows how one minor mistake can snowball into the largest battle that has ever occured.... i wonder what will happen to the guy that missed paying the bill xD
strongtheory about 2200. heh it was around 7k people ;D
This battle (largest in EVE history) started because of a funny mistake)). Pandemic Legion group just "forgot" (!) to pay their rent for the B-R5RB system, and then russian aliance (CFC/RUS) jumped in at the opportunity. N3PL, which is at war with CFC/RUS for who knows how long, joined in and then it was an all out madness of two major groups fighting each other. CFC/RUS lost 14 titans, and N3PL lost 58 titans. In the end N3PL were left with no way to destroy russian titans and had to retreat. Thus it was the victory for russian aliance. The battle lasted for 15 hours! The total losses were estimated to be 8 trillion ISK, which is about 200 000$ of real life money!!!
The previous largest battle (also started by mistake, when one titan accidentally entered enemy territory) costed only 25 000$...
A game more fun to read about then play.
By the lords of Kobol......
I've only started playing EVE a few days ago, because someone told me it's most massive scale MMO ever existed.....but this?
And to think that you can't respawn your ship, and have to re-build her if you got one destroyed in battle.....
How much does this battle cost? All those ships...
They said the battle costed 200 000$ in real cash, but cannot tell you how much in ISK ( in-game value in EvE online ) you can just imagine. That was hell of a battle damn dude gorgeous in HD
a plex costs 20 dollars, and its value in the beggining of 2014 was i believe around 500m isk. so divide 200000/20 and multiply that by 500m, and that should get you a value of some 5 trillion isk.
Dr Galactose actually 11 trillion isk were lost.
Get your ass to a null sec alliance and start out by fliyng tackle frigs for them. I recommend BRAVE. You'll end up in big battles here and there, and maybe you'll be lucky enough to be present in the next br5rb. There was a 1700+ about two weeks ago. These still happen.
I'll take that under consideration. :D
"i was there"
Alictos ik I’m VERY LATE But I was there as well
@@calypso692 just how this war happened?
I have no idea what's happening but it is freaking majestic
When they said "we are going for war" they didn't lye O.O
I love how almost a decade later people are still talking about this.
better they do this than actually kill each other
Imagine if they could somehow get these working in real time :o
We used to have fights like that, what would happen is the army in defense would not get lagged out and the people loading up the 'grid' would get a loading screen and then their wallet would flash to notify them the insurance of the ship had been paid as they'd been killed.
For now this is MORE then good enough
SeditiousSpyke Oh, you mean the fight in HED?
SeditiousSpyke that's what would happen if you were one of the lucky few. For the rest of us, you would spend 3 hours staring at a black screen, listening to the battle on voice coms, and praying to whatever deity you believe in that you would eventually load grid in a ship and not in a station. And even then, if you were still alive and in the fight, you got to look forward to modules cycling red for 45 minutes before you could shoot at the next target. I don't care what anyone says, Time Dilation is still a far better burden to bear than the lag fests that were the major fleet fights of the past.
Andrew Zack Amen!
Considering these 4 min 37 sec speaks very well of what basicly went on for like 23h, involving more then the 2-3000 present in system at any one time... Well
Let us never forget the Battle of B-R5RB, where CFC/RUS and N3/PL fought the most horrific battle in the history of EVE, in which over seven and a half thousand capsuleers fought over a time span of 21 hours. In the aftermath of the battle, the remains of seventy-five Titans, and hundreds more capital-class ships drifted silently through space, a haunting reminder of what might just be the largest and most costly PVP battle in history. After the dust had finally cleared, the damage total surpassed ten trillion ISK, or over one-hundred thousand US dollars. Let it's memory live on through the veterans of the conflict for years to come...
Thanks R&K for this amzing representation of what just a few min of those 23h really felt like, even in 'soulcrushing lag'
Wow badass.
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I love how phallic the titans look
now, i don't play EVE Online and i probably never will..
but damn, a massive battle of this scale and most likely THE biggest and the costliest in MMO history? that, i can appreciate.
Geez, it's been 10 years already
Bring back Elite on Commodore 64
go and google a game on pc called oolite,
you're welcome.
I'm so gonna be there just as soon as I can get my butt into gear... Elite FTW!
Wow didn't think you would be interested in eve!
Love your videos Mr Maloney :-)
"All battles are pretty from a distance, until they surround you."
What are the big blue bubbles? Interdictor fields or something similar?
+PorterPickUp yes the overlapping "bubbles" are interdiction probes that keep the ships you see in the video from jumping out of the system or warping off. This essentially keeps the enemy forced into fighting when they are likely to lose.
+nicfirebear I like to call them fishing nets.
I know its been 4 months and you probaly already got your answer. But ill tell you anyways. Those are warp interdiction bubbles. They keep you from warping off
Good guess. Old comment, I know.
This is what happens if you dont pay your rent kid.
I can't for this battle to be turned into a comic, Dark horse agreed to make a comic series on EVE: online based on the famous events that has happened in the game.
Eeyup, they started doing that. The first comic will revolve around how a rogue director crushed "Band of Brothers" in 2008. Basicly leading to the rise of Goonswarm.
War is hell. Many keyboards were smashed that day
I don't understand >.
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poor people who have petty rigs..that would be a dia-show
Two coalitions battled over a station that one of the coalitions missed a sovereignty payment on.
Nearly 7k people participated in the battle, 300,000 dollars worth of damage, 21 hours of fighting, the loss of 75 titans, 1/3 of all titans ever lost in the game, and titans are around from 13-18 kilometers long, resulted from this battle.
Ролик и музыка просто восхитительны. Я никогда не играл и даже не видел EVE но я восхищён.
This that battle that caused $200k damage?
$300k
essentially, of course if one were to actually dump that kind of cash into PLEX and sell into the market to get the in game currency it would crash the conversion rate, as the EvE market couldn't handle that many PLEX being dumped and remain stable.
its 500k now
ralphinator456 Please get your facts straight before saying that. it was $300-330k
Sora Blue im sure his facts are better than an article from someone who more than likely doesnt play eve
I played this game for 4 years while studying at Uni. I had the time... And you really need a LOT of time. I started a corp, got up to 50 members called Phoenix Knights. I even ended up flying a carrier. I have to admit to rage quitting when I stupidly lost my carrier while transporting POS fuel. My scout jumped into an empty system I jumped just as it filled up with hostiles.
It is a incredibly complex game. and it is not about maths, it is about PEOPLE. Diplomacy with real people with real things to lose. Battles show cowardice, heroics, the full range of real human emotion. When you system gets attacked and you try to rally your people to fight back instead of just paying a ransom demand, you feel like you are truly in the digital wild west. People afraid to lose ships and assets. Gutsy reckless people who fly into doomed battles. Powerful rich money makers who dominate and control things behind the scenes and bribe enemies to fight each other through proxies.
I actually understand the real world far better after experiencing Eve. It is the real world without limits and on a far faster and quicker scale. I think I ultimately quit as I understood that the "digital west" was no longer wild. To truly "win" in this game you would require untold trillions of Isk and the territory to go with it. The game like the real world is now dominated by a rich few, and to ever come close to that level would be a uphill struggle for many years and it would require as much dedication as a full time job. I went back to the real world.
Song name: Darude Sandstorm ;)
wrong
So wrong, that you have practically arrived at the end of spectrum of "wrong". Any wrong-er and you would have broken laws of logic and been right.
I think this is called 'The Battle of Virgins Deep'
I am pretty sure there should be no sound in space...
That depends on the local particle density.
Space = no air = no sound
True. But can you imagine how boring it would be to play then?
Wow, so it's like, a video game? Unreal.
According to EVE lore the sound is simulated and transferred to the capsuleer. "As you know there is no sound in space, but when we were developing the capsules we found that people wanted to use as many of their senses as possible, thus we added the sound. By letting a computer create three dimensional sound we also add to the awareness you have while in battles, for instance." (The Jovian Wetgrave, Chapter 3)
RnK never cease to entertain me. Great video as always.
This is pretty insane, I played only 20 hours of EVE, but it was enough for me to realize how amazing the game is, it would certainly be a game I would frequent in if it wasn't so statistically based and grindy, for those who don't know those bubbles are anti-warp fields, you can counter them, but with that amount it would be impossible, you can only really see the major weapons there and a lot of the lasers, but if you zoomed in you would see missiles, drones, torpedoes, railgun projectiles, etc. I also recall from a article that there was multiple other similar battles happening across surrounding systems, and that some of the well equipped titans were worth over 4000, or even 5000 dollars.
there is something so incredibly epic about a fight like this. It's not even the size of it that makes it so epic but the fact that it's totally player driven.
I used to play Shadowbane years ago so I can really appreciate a game that puts players into a world that allows them to forge whatever outcome they want. I would have loved to have been a part of this win or lose.
Check this game out bro, its in pre-alpha but its exactly what you are describing. robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game
Christopher Van Niekerk
Star citizen likely wont be ably to match this in scale or freedom, there's a lot more hand holding involved with the players.
thenoobfactor Not even close actually. The last I read about it, they were going to cap the servers at around 2000 or so. That may have changed but I don't know.
Christopher Van Niekerk dude star citizen is a fuckn greedy joke, plz do not compare it to eve online TY.
you all clearly have no idea where they are with the game. :) feel free to hate and not investigate . peace
Ingame sounds! No annoying and unfitting rock/pop music like in all the other EVE battle videos! Awesome vid!
I was there on the Russian/CFC side and we burned them all. 59 of PL/N3 titans and 11 Super Carriers were destroyed and we lost 16/3. R.I.P. madafakas and don't trash talk in Amamake local chat.
lmao
Memories !! My dreadnaught did survive after we called the retreat, 14 hours of battle but we lost, anyway soon after i collapsed to the floor crawling to my bed..
this makes me want to play EVE again.
A great video showcasing a ridiculously amazing fight :D
Basically what happens when I go to family reunions after an election....
I don't play anything even close to games on the computer, but that was absolutely chilling to behold.
And I thought being an Eve Bounty Hunter was hardcore... Holy shit I'm impressed
8 years ago already, this was epic.
Soo will this be remembered as galaxy war 1?
Galaxy war 1 already happened, like half a decade ago. this could kinda be considered the second great war.
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The first 'big' war was known as 'the Great Northern War' and happened in 2004. Pretty much everyone was involved in some capacity, although the fighting itself was limited to the regions Venal, Tenal and Branch. Of course, there weren't that many players then but relative to how many there were it was still one of the bigger wars in EVE.
deserves a more detailed report + video, longer as well, including names of titans involved, especially those who were destroyed and when, some talk about tactics involved, what's going on when, analysis from pilots involved, the works (like someone would do an epic football match).
That's pretty impressive
well, i wonder how my latop's hardware would deal with that kind of a battle... nicely done.
superkupa Nemo tbh, probably not very well. Besides, a fight like that won't happen for quite a long time. It takes a long time to build titans and supercarriers and the B-R fight was the first time in eve history that around 200-250 thousand USD was lost in a single battle. I doubt anyone will be fielding shit like that for a long long while.
DrkKnightRider PL and NC. are ready to jump in to the next fight. I'm not to sure about CFC though.
DrkKnightRider perhaps not. Try to count how many titans and supercaps these massive coalitions have lost over the last 24 months and look how they just come back for more the next month. Sure their capital numbers might be low after the battle, but they will produce back the capitals they lost (if they haven't already before the battle). Besides these alliances churn out capitals on a constant basis, in some ways supercaps and titans are expendable now. The loss of these ships hurt their image more than their wallet or war machine capability.
Wiryan Tirtarahardja I imagine the fights will dissolve into lesser and lesser fights to cope with the extreme losses incurred in the past month alone for both sides. However both sides will continue to pour resources into the war until it is reduced to a mere skirmishes. I see PL's alliance winning out this type of war scenario though, purely from an outside view. I see a battle of attrition favoring Pandemic in this case, but I could be proven wrong of course.
This is only 4 and a half minutes. The battle went on for like 21 hours, I think.
Just....ridiculous.
no offense but i rather hear what they where saying on TS3 then the music :b
this guy wasn't in either of the 2 main groups fighting, he was just passing through
oh
Trust me, the comm chatter wouldn't be very interesting.
God dang this battle was pretty epic on its own ... a Rooks and Kings video makes it look even more epic!
Oh the horror, all that money gone! All those titans destroyed, oh the horror!
they were all rebuilt
Muhammad Ali Well....CFC did, N3 is still recovering
This is just incredible. This battle is what EvE players will talk about for decades to come.
EVE online is absolutely amazing with its epic battles and wars and everything and reading about it makes it seem like the best game ever, unfortunately the game is too in-depth, stat based, tactical and just too hardcore for a casual player like me. I could never dedicate myself to such a deep game.
Amazing video nonetheless