First Ride On My 2023 Marin San Quentin 3 | WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- The 2023 Marin San Quentin is a bit of a confusing bike. On one hand its super low standover height, short chainstays, and small wheels make harken to a dirt jumper, but the 64 degree headtube angle and low bottom bracket is more in line with no-compromise enduro hardtails like the Kona Honzo ESD or On-One Hello Dave. This weekend I took my brand new San Quentin 3 out on a black diamond trail ride, to the pump track, and to set of free-ride style dirt jumps to try and pin down who this bike is best suited for.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:24 Climbing
04:02 Descending
06:59 Pump Track
09:21 Dirt Jumps..Kinda
11:29 This Bike is a Compromise (Who's It For?)
16:47 The Components
18:00 Do I Recommend It? - กีฬา
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Great content. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. It would be cool to see a video trying an "angle-set" headset.
Thanks for letting me know! With mine already being the XL, I’m a little more eager to try the mullet build, but might have to do both!
Yes for wheely Wendy! Maybe in a wheely wheely windy day😂. I was debating between the Middle Child and San Quentin, pulled trigger on RSD and it’s been great! The only thing I was a bit let down was that the derailleur hanger is integrated with the sliding mechanism. Which is a bit pricey to replace and most importantly might be difficult to find in the future if RSD stops making them for whatever reason
Haha I love it! And glad you’re stoked on the Middlechild, love that bike so much 😍 That’s true about the dropouts though, I was a little worried as well seeing as I’m prone to breaking them (I fall too much lol), but Alex reassured me that they’re pretty beefy. 9 months in and it’s holding strong!
Happy for the video 👍 I have been waiting for this video 😂 it’s hard to find something playful and a good climber at the same time … 😢 but for sure this bike it’s no so far from the rsd . Thank you so much for the video I really enjoyed it !!! 😎 ✅ Wendy is a good rider 👍 by the way 👍
Ya man, that is a challenge! I’d say the Middlechild is more playful, but the San Quentin will be better for enduro type riding (long pedal up, steep and fast back down). And yes, Wendy rips!!
Please.....😄 Pros and cons off the san quentin vs the middle childle...
Keep up the good work 👌👍😃
It’ll be coming soon! I want to ride the San Quentin on greater variety of terrain first, which is hard in the winter. Be don’t worry, it’s definitely gonna happen!
Good stuff you guys, thanks for another great review, been looking forward to seeing you guys shredding some Bend trails on a hardtail!
Thank you man! Stoked to be up here, many more to come 🤙
Are you guys just visiting bend or you there long term?
We just moved here about a week ago! Wendy grew up in the area and her family is still here, so wanted to be a closer to them plus all the other great stuff Bend has to offer. Are you in Bend?
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy aaaah man lucky you guys! I’ve always loved bend, tried to move their a couple of times but my wife won’t let us leave the area where we live now up north of Seattle 😂 pretty great up here tho too. Can’t beat that 300 days of sun tho in Bend!!
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I’m trying to organize a trip to bend possibly next month, or in the summer for sure. We usually try and go once a year, sometimes in the winter to sunriver or summertime so we can ride and hike. I really want to hit the bike park again but also explore more Phil’s trails 🤘🏻
Really cool that you took that bike to all those different styles of riding. I’m sure your right that it’s not a 10 at everything. Make it a mullet and change tires to what ever you think would be more suitable. And then it would be interesting to see if it could be an 8 1/2 at everything. That would be a successful one quiver hardtail.
Definitely has the potential to be, and honestly I think a higher BB would make it a lot more well rounded, but I’m definitely biased towards the BMX/DJ feel. The mullet setup is pretty much the only way to change it so I probably will at some point! I’ll definitely play with different setups and share what I think on the channel!
Nice ride! Yes for "Wendy learns to wheely" Video :) Marin seems to be a popular bike this year.
I’ll try to convince her haha! And ya, they’re really stepping up their game; both in the the bikes the sell and the riders they support!
Thanks for the helpful video, glad you’re okay after fall. I just ordered a SQ2 medium - I’m 5’9 and most 29” mediums feel a little too big for me so when I saw a 27.5 with this geo I figured I’d give it a try without test ride. Now I’m curious if it’s too small!
Nice man! Let me know how it goes! I’m guessing it might feel a bit cramped seated, but it’ll feel super fun and snappy in a standing riding position!
This things need dirt jump redemption when the trails are better! I wanna see you boost some jumps, safely of course haha!
Absolutely man!! Hopefully this week, just heard of another spot nearby that might be snow free!
It has such a short seat tube it would never be long enough even with a dropper post for my legs without putting extra stress on the frame for climbing (extra long seat post), you can tell in your video your legs are not fully extended at the bottom of the pedal stroke, in my opinion it's a jump bike and for descending down only it's not a do it all bike. It would be a pain in the butt in the uk for climbing back up somewhere like cannock chase trying to pedal from such a low seating position unless you have really short legs 🙂, hence why i use a nukeproof scout instead. Hope this helps someone out if there are looking for a bike for ascending and descending..... 🙂 I'm 5ft 9in
Very thoughtful review. I'd put you right up there with Steve of Hardttail Party.
That’s high praise haha, thank you, he’s definitely an inspiration of mine! Steve definitely knows more than me, but I approach mountain biking/hardtails from a bit of different angle, focusing a bit more on the freeride/jib side of things.
I ride a Z2 fork and its always wide open! You just gotta dial in your PSI with that budgety fork bra. I love mine.
Haha alright good to know! Have mine set at 90 right now (I’m about 200lbs) and it feels good off the top, but bottoms out sooner than I’d like, might try to add some tokens
Very nice video. I have a 2021 sq3. The asegi tires really stick to the ground.
Nice! I had the 2019 version. Great bike, but hated the tall seat tube!
I put some tervail ehline 27.5 2.5 it rides more efficient now those assagai are good but get me way too tired
Haha ya, good for gnarly enduro riding but not much else! I have the classic DHF/DHRII combo now with a mullet setup and am liking it a lot!
Awesome bike for the buck.
Really is!!
That mullet setup could be de answer fot brig up that low bb
My thoughts exactly! And help compliment some of the more aggressive tendencies of the bike
Great video. I liked how you explained the geometry of the bike. How it effects the bike’s handling and what your personal preferences are.
Thank you Mike! I actually did a full video on my preference in MTB geo, sounds like you might like it: th-cam.com/video/fcY5NKd1ll4/w-d-xo.html
I watch a lot of your videos up in Big Bear. Including your geo video. Those jumps are high stakes on a hard tail. Definitely different terrain in Bend. That was a hard bail on that double. Good thing you and the bike pulled out of that one.
Ya probably should have warmed up a bit more before dropping in on those lol, hardtails are great for the big, well maintained jumps like at Big Bear, but definitely reach their limit fast on rocky loose stuff like that
My question would be. What do you think of the geometry updates from the 2022
Shorter seat tube and higher stack is amazing, much better than the previous generation! Not sure it needed the slacker head tube though. I’m thinking about putting in an angle adjust headset to steepen it up a degree, and if I do I’ll share my thoughts on the channel!
Hey mate. Nice video! I’m thinking of building a 29’er egressive hardtail. Which bike do you like more. The Nuke Scout, Commencal HT or this Marin?
Cheers mate!
All are great bikes!! Tell me more about what you mean when you say “aggressive;” do you mean more dirt jumps/freeride stuff or high speed race-focused riding? Also, the San Quentin is just available in 27.5”, so it might be off the table if you’re 100% set on a 29’er.
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy Thanks for your comment. O I didn’t know the Marin was 27.5 only. I’m looking for a ‘do it all’ bike. From flatter trails (in the Netherlands) to some more aggressive enduro. Also really like to jib around. Turning the woods in to a skatepark. 🙏🏽
Ok cool! I wouldn’t say either of those to 29’ers are going to feel overly playful, but I’d probably go with the Meta HT (shorter chainstays, higher BB, etc.) I think the RSD Middlechild could be a great bike though, honestly one of the most playful bikes out there, but still capable on gnarly descents. They sell it in 29 or 27.5+, but not sure how easy it would be to get your hands on in the Netherlands. I have a few videos on that bike on my channel if you’re interested in learning more!
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy thanks mate, that helps me a lot. 🙏🏽
Would you say this would be solid enough for downhill trails? Even somewhat Rocky terrain with roots. Starting out mountain biking and wondering if I should go this or get the Marin rift zone 1. Thanks
Yes, it can definitely handle it! But it will take a little more effort on your part (which in my opinion makes it more fun 👌). I also believe that a good hardtail is hands down better than a cheap full suspension, so my vote would be for the SQ3
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy thanks, yeah I might go with the sq3 then. Or even sq2 looks pretty solid. Can always upgrade to the z2 bomber fork down the track. Or maybe a fox 36 🤣
True! And don’t get me wrong, the rift zone is a great bike, but I personally think you’ll find the limit of that lower level spec pretty quick.
@@SharrodVisualsspend a few extra bucks and go for the Z1. Especially if you're going to ride DH. Buying the sq2 is definitely a better idea if you're going to upgrade the bike anyway.
Yes to Wendy doing aa wheelie
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I have 2022 San Quentin- 2 27.5 upgrades ergon sm pilgrips crankbrothers stamp 1 - conti tubes
I bomb stairs with it quite often .. from 4 steps to over 100 steps.. killer killer bike.. climbs very easy.
I do have videos up on my channel and will be uploading more this week
Killer video
Right on man, I’ll check em out, thanks for sharing 🤙🤙
Everyone always focuses on the downhill in reviewing this bike. I hate fire roads and prefer to take the technical climbing trails up. I would be interested in How does it clear ledges, steps, and other uphill scrambles as you continue riding this bike.
Minor nitpick: the paint job looks like someone did it with a spray can. Not a fan. I would still buy it, but not my fave.
Ya, the paint fade looks really neat from a distance, but a little rattle can-esque up close. In terms of tech climbing the short chainstays make it easy to get up and over things, but the bottom bracket is pretty low for a 27.5” bike, so pedal strikes are prevalent! Other than that though it climbed pretty well, didn’t feel too stretched out even on the XL (I’m 6’1” for reference)
How u compare middle child aluminum v2
Great question man, and I plan to make a full video just that! In the grand scheme of things they’re pretty similar bikes, but I would say that the Middlechild is more poppy/playful with the shorter chainstays and higher BB, whereas the SQ is more stable at high speeds with the slacker head tube and low BB (the short and steep seat tube also makes it easy to size up, making it that much better for high speed stability)
Does that marzoki fits a 29er?
It sadly won’t, just 27.5”
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy 😢
This is the top tier version right? How do you feel about the entry level model?
It is, and honestly I think it’s the best bargain of all three. I’d avoid the SQ1 because it doesn’t have 12x148 dropouts, so you have to run a quick release wheel. The SQ2 isn’t bad, but I think the SQ3 is well worth the extra $500. I actually did a video looking at all three models, check it out! th-cam.com/video/qRQrQeUT1-s/w-d-xo.html
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I believe I watched your video now that I think about it. I knew the back end on the entry level had something wrong with it and obviously the basic fork. Dang well I can't afford the 3. Current options right now on my radar and deals on getting from my local dealers are (I prefer 27.5 but the growler is a deal I'm entertaining)
2023 giant fathom 2 (27.5) currently highest on my list, just fitting my budget and has everything I'm mostly after. Just wanted aggressive, that low seat stay on the SQ is fantastic and the only think I'm missing $1400 inc tax
2022 Kona Big horn, only issue mostly is the coil spring, really just wish I had air and also internal routing is beautiful imo, even if it makes things a pain for mechanics. Beautiful bike tho non the less, not sure the seat stay height compared to the giant $1200 inc tax
2022 Rocky mountain growler 40, sweet specs but my biggest issue is the 29er factor, I know most people prefer a 29er, I just feel 27.5 feels plenty large for my liking (also a lil BMX background)
Shop wants $1500 inc tax.
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy oh and riding a pump track would be so fun, pretty sure the smaller wheels size will always favor a pump track. I can't deny entertainimg the growler at $1500
If you plan on staying in the sport for a while I’d focus primarily on frame quality and geometry over part spec, as it’s a lot easier/cheaper to upgrade parts down the road than to buy a new frame. What type of riding do you plan to do most of?
those assegais wiped you out. i slide all over the place with these tires even though people claim its the grippiest tires on the market.
Weird!! Good to know, thanks for sharing 🤙
I’m 5’10” and deciding between the size M and size L. Do you think the size M would be to small for that height? I’m mainly wanting this bike for trails/dirtjumps/pumptrack and not for enduro/dh
In that case I think you’d be fine with the M. That said, the best part about the San Quentin is the super low seat tube, so even if you did go with a L, which will make it a bit more comfortable/stable for trails riding, you’ll still have plenty of standover clearance for dirt jumps/pump tracks/etc.
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy thanks for responding. I actually saw the RSD Middlechild on your other video and that looked super interesting. Looks like it might be more aimed at dj/trail then the San Quentin which is a bit more aggressive
Yep, exactly! And you can get 5% off the RSD if use the discount code Josh5%off at checkout 🤙
I'm 5'6 what size would you recommend?
A medium should be just about perfect for you!
It's a hardtail don't overcomplicate it. For the money it's one of the better hardtails out there. Rip off the OEM Fork sell it and buy something better. Same goes for the brakes. I put a Z1 Fork and Magura brakes on my sq3 and it is a formidable hardtail for any type of trail, including dh. A Sub-2000 dollar reliable and durable mountain bike that can do almost everything is not much to complain about.
Not at all! But there’s definitely nuance in hardtails, just like full squish bikes. Always good to be able to differentiate based on geo and not just part spec to make sure you’re getting the ideal bike for you 🤙
I never could understand why bring the dog, doesn't he get put at risk of getting ran over on the trails, or getting left behind and getting lost...
Nah, he loves it! I think it taps into an evolutionary instinct of chasing pray, Sprocket is my second dog he lives for chasing me down the trail! Now obviously you have to be smart about where you ride and learn your dog's limits, otherwise I suppose someone could encounter some of the issues you brought up
@@ridingwithjoshandwendy
Oh okay thanks for explaining, I've only been trail riding a few times in my life and contemplating on getting back into it...
So I guess I wouldn't know much about bringing a dog along, but it's good to know that he's okay out there, thanks...