Why My Dream Game is so Hard to Make - Devlog
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┈ Who is Goodgis? ┈
I’m a full time Graphic Designer, Game Dev, & TH-camr. I specialize in making cute, colorful games in Godot and telling my story through my videos. I also run my own little game studio called Firith. My dream is to hire my friends and make Firith a full-time job. I’m known for games such as The Keeyp, Wizbirds, Snomes, and Dewdrop Dynasty.
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┈ Timestamps ┈
0:00 Introduction
2:22 The Concept
3:50 Version #1
4:29 Version #2
5:25 Version #3
5:59 Version #4
6:57 Version #5
7:20 Version #6
7:40 Conclusion
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Bu.....But what if i don wanna?
hi can you pls do a toutorial on godot?(for starters)
I'm really interested to see your game completed
I have always liked the game with pets, too x)
I don't know why, I would like to be able to do a real game, but I don't know, and I don't have the time. I did a game with pets on my bot... But it's not really a 'real' game :c
My dude, your game shouldn't be so much "the perfect game" or a perfect representation of your nostalgia but an expression of you. In any case you should be proud to have gotten as far as you have. I'm new to coding and I've been making my own game and it's people like you who inspire people like me. So thanks! Cheers.
I did dream about making my own perfect game, but then I realized it's just Hollow Knight
XD
Woopsie moment
Sometimes that just happens. You got this idea for a really cool game, but others have the same idea and do it first.
We've all been there lmao
@@ap1evideogame44 More like you want to make a game, but then you realize you just want to clone that one game you like so much
I always heard the trick was to take your dream game, break it up into 5 mini games, make those games, then build the dream game.
That's a sweet idea! Thanks for sharing.
Hm, that does sound like an interesting idea
thats what I've been doing. I'm working on a simple 2D farming/runescape type of game. so i work on one skill by making a tiny small game. like farming simulator, tree cutting game etc
OOOOO that’s smort
This just solved my game dev block!
"the game to end all games"
you did it, gaming is no more
XD
Hahaha
@@Goodgis GOODGIS WHY DID TOU END GAMING
You could turn this project into an Idle Game, so you don't need to have another main mechanic to complement it, but you will probably need 100 more layers of stuff for the player to work on while waiting for other things to be ready.
That's a fun idea, thanks for sharing!
Fuzzites need to be finished!! ...after Dewdrop, of course. :)
Why, of course! ;)
second pog
Third pog
Fourth poh
pog ded
This story is SO relatable for me. Starting stupid-ambitious projects that I never finish is the story of almost my entire life. Only in the past few years have I figured out how to actually finish things for a change.
Haha it hard but best of luck to you!
I suppose you changed your mentality / thinking and if so, what did you change specifically?
@@Chrotesque I guess I learned that 1) motivation slumps are normal and surmountable, and 2) getting organized, making plans, and checking off one task at a time are INVALUABLE skills. They can make even the most ambitious project achievable.
@@JediMediator thanks
I think I can relate to that.
I remember being obsessed with very specific parts of games than were just supposed to be a side bonus, I completely get how you feel about this random part of game that no one cares about but you, and being a child and being amazed by it ; thanks for making me remeber this :)
Hey, I'm glad! haha
What are some of your favorites?
there seems to be uncontrolled growth in your project’s scope!
I'm definitely not the Inventor. :p
@@Goodgis lmao
Bruh
EEEEEYYY!!! SCOPE CREEP BRO!!!
BRO HE LITERALLY MADE FUN OF YOU
"This is a couple years ago before the Star Dew genre of game was popular"
Me as a Harvest Moon fan: ;_;
No, I'm a huge Harvest Moon fan but I just meant before dev made games that looked and played like stardew valley. haha
harvest moon is gone 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Lol I thought the same! People always forget that it's Harvest Moon that started the genre, not Stardew Valley ^-^'
This is gonna be good.
It's my longest video yet...
agreed
This is a really great idea, mabye this could be a devlog after Dewdrop. I really like the 4th Version. An idea for a non-online could be you can build your own island as well as the fuzzite (hope I spelt that right)
That's a great idea! I definitely will work on this afterwards!
The MMO version is cool! I just hope that if there is fighting, I hope the Fuzzites and Player fight TOGETHER. I always hate Pokemon like games where the monsters are forced to fight and be hurt, as the player just sits back and doesn't get hurt at all...
Yeah, that's a good point!
I love that idea I hope goodgis sees it
@@tyquinbainbridge4990 Goodgis already responded to this comment lol
@@The_Mang I didn't see it thanks for reminding of my autism
Or the fuzzites are the ones that sit back and watch humans fight.
The mmo it's also my favorite! You should go in deep with the grid battle system, it looks so much fun
Definitely, I play it from time to time just because it's so much fun!
Subscribed at "Chao Garden". No one ever really talks/talked about it, and I thought I was alone in my total love for it.
It makes me so happy to find so many Chao fans!
i'm so glad that youtube recommended me this. I've been wanting to design my own game but have no idea where to start.
I'm so glad too! :D
the third version really caught my eye, but the autumn jam version has one of my favorite aesthetics 😀
Thanks!
Congrats on the sponsor! Also the combat looks really cool and I’m a big fan of the chao garden too lol, especially from adventure 2
Same here! Thanks! :D
The mmo looks so nice, I absolutely love the designs for the fuzzy bois in that one
Glad you like them! Thanks! :D
I'm sure this will be relatable for a lot of people.
Definitely!
I'm gonna watch this after school. This happens in the middle of my school day. sadness...
:D
@zclaud The Nub I actually had in person classes today.
@@HoodedOlive oh
@@HoodedOlive *mute reality*
idk wear some headphones I’m sure they won’t notice
Maybe you could do Fuzzites as a background Game with Wallpaper Engine or other Software. Then you could interact with your little pets and if you are finished you can do other stuff on your PC and come back later to your desktop.
I've thought about that! :D
I’d love that
The three musketeers: You, Polymars, and Reece Giraffe-boy
XD Yes!
You forgot Barji lol
@@micyoz5283 who?
@@Goodgis F
Ye
I really love how you just had the idea and went with it without a super set finite path. This makes me feel so much more valid in the way I create games 😍
I'm so glad! :D
This game genre is the reason why I still have sab2 to this day, and I still play it. Making a game like that is nearly my dream game... hmm.. wait... I think you inspired me! I hope you finish Fuzites soon, I'd totally play it!
:D Glad to hear it!
“Dew drop district” huh what c o i n c i de n c e
hehe
Love the perseverance! Don't give up, the idea sounds awesome and the prototypes over the years show a lot of potential. It's leading up to something BIG!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
Fuzzites is very similar to a project I started, but it contained a more in-depth raising aspect, where you had a nursery for an egg, and different settings of the nursery would influence what characteristics the creature would have, like temperature and humidity, a few slots for special items like crystals,among other items you could find in the world. I wanted customizing, breeding, variety and growing/evolving. I also wanted mini games to build up stats as well.
That's awesome!
Sonic Adventure Battle 2 is the entire reason I started programming games. Hopefully one of us is able to make a version of that nostalgia that we can all enjoy. Looking forward to Dewdrop / Fuzzites
Heck yeah! :D Thanks!
I've had a couple of dream games. I wouldn't really call any of the ideas perfect though as my dream games usually suffer immensely from scope creep. All of my dream games became too large too quickly and now I acknowledge that if I even wanted to attempt to make them I'd need way more people and I'd also need to cut down on the project sizes. Hopefully in the future I'll be able to make the smallest of these dream games a reality, but first I need to becomes really good at making games. Overall great video, I'm looking forward to seeing what you make of your idea.
Thanks so much, and best of luck to you on your journey! :D
That tile based combat system looked very interesting, would love to see more! I've been toying with my own dream game for 5 years too and sometimes it nice just to have a day dream to fall back onto. Stick with it and I'm sure whatever you do will be great.
Thanks so much! I know we can do it. Cheers!
I immediately fell in love with the looks of your first Godot version of Fuzzites, i also loved the idea of the top down one.
Thanks so much! :D
I also had similar asperations to make a game like Fuzzites. I drew my inspirations from the likes of the original digimon vpets, and I really wanted to incorporate farming mechanics like Stardew valley. I quickly came to realize many of the same things you did, and so I silently scrapped the project to continue honing my skills as a game programmer. One day I'll come back to this idea, and maybe by then I'll be drawing inspiration from you instead!
You absolutely must!
Hell yeah that Chrono Trigger clip at the beginning, respect
Heck yeah! *fist bump
I love seeing the iteration. Can clearly see you getting better every step of the way. Keep it up!
Thanks so much!
Good job on first sponsor! That’s pretty amazing. If I ever end up with a sponsor which will be a long time due to my sub count. But the fact that you made it is pretty cool!
Thanks so much! :D
I imagine the worst part about trying to finish Fuzzities is that it's in an identity crisis (by that, I mean that it jumps from variation to variation because you don't exactly know what it's supposed to be).
But this issue is already partially solved by having a base concept, and now I hope that the rest of the issue gets solved.
I hope this experience won't be mirrored onto mine because currently I'm also having to remake a game from Scratch because the current version didn't work out.
The main difference between your situation and mine is that my game has already proven to have a rock-solid foundation because of how much fun everyone including me had playing it, but it turned out that I reduced the possibilities so much that I can't extend the game beyond 2 minutes, so now I'm making a 3D version of the 2D game because the 3D would make (hopefully many) challenges possible that won't be possible in 2D, even with unchanged controls.
That's a good point! Thanks for sharing!
Now I wanna see a little fur ball running around with a crusader helmet and shield
LOL
I'mma be honest, the chao garden was my favorite aspect of that game. The only reason I did anything else was to get stuff for the choas.
Heck yeah!
Really cool to see your progression through all those versions
I appreciate it!
The moment when your dream games scope is so big that tripple A studios couldnt make it 😂 (reffering to my dream game)
LOL haha I feel for ya.
@@Goodgis haha i wish you luck with your dream in the mean time i will be making quadrouple A studio lol
fuzites reminds me of club penguin puffles...
Heck yeah!
Have you ever checked out the Creatures game series? Breeding and creature raising is the primary focus and it really works. They're old and dated by now but they're cheap on GOG and still have an active modding community. They were my dream game to make something like as a kid, and I'd still like to try one day.
I don't think I have, I'll have to check them out! Thanks :D
I also got into game dev at 13 years old, but that was 1993. All I had was a C compiler and a book called Teach Yourself Game Programming in 21 Days, which assumed college level experience programming in C. I had VGA mode 13h, which was 320x200 and 256 colors, and less than 1mb of ram to work with. Back then it would have cost $1000s for a graphics library, and commercial game libraries weren't really a thing. I had never even used the internet yet.
In other words, you kids have it easy these days. But you also have a lot more competition. 1000s of new games to play every month makes it hard to stand out.
Great video and I'll be sticking around for more.
Thanks for sharing! :D
I think you should mention how you’ve been working on this idea for 11 years in the thumbnail
I tried but there wasn't enough room haha
...finally, a devlog that speaks to me. 11 years, 1 dream, countless different attempts. I feel you so hard.
Haha, it's difficult!
A successor to Chao Garden has been one of my dream games since I was little, too!
Best of luck to you on Fuzzites! I hope one of it's iterations gets a full commercial release!
Thank you!
Version #4 is my favorite. I would buy it, it looks really fun
Thanks, I agree!
Ngl this game looked and sound good even bofore the mmo
Haha thanks!
I’ve always dreamed about making my dream game, and then I realized I don’t have money or time.
Nah, you can do it! :D You just gotta make the time.
The online version is so cool!! That combat system is amazing!! The pixel art is also adorable :)
Thanks! :D
Nice vid, and i loved all the versions, i hope that someday you be able to finish the game
That's the plan! Thanks so much! :D
goodgis wut about dewdrop??
Wishlist it here: store.steampowered.com/app/1444080/Dewdrop_Dynasty/
@@Goodgis OH MY GODDDDD
i added a wikitubia for goodgis :)
edit: it got deleted
Wuuuut! Post a link :D
never mind i just checked and it got deleted for some reason :(
As someone who's been writing a story for almost 20 years now without making any part of it public ever I can SO relate to the nostalgia pit dragging down the progress. It was truly painful to ditch most of the original characters in favor of better ones a decade after I started but the story really benefited so much from it.
I can believe it haha
I have been waiting like 20 years for another Chao Garden.
I love the Animal Crossing like concept of fishing, farming, doing tasks and working in a little community and how that could affect the Fuzzites. Along with selling and eating crops, maybe you could use crops as power ups for your Fuzzites, bait for catching specific types of fish, or even a self power up? I imagined a 3rd separate component to the world which is the wild where you have to fight enemies top down like old school Zelda to get something akin to Chao drives and maybe find Fuzzite eggs on rare occasions or even use the Fuzzites to do or help you battle.
SCOPE CREPEE!!1
XD
Congrats on the sponsor!
I have actually been working on my dream game for a little while now and I'm afraid it's, just like you said, too much for 1 person, but I'm also having trouble letting it go 😂
Thanks so much! :D And never give up! It's hard work but it will be worth it in the end.
Good job man, glad you’re clearly enjoying the process! You’ve clearly improved a lot over time! The idea of the pet changing based on what you do sounds like a mechanic I think was in the old Fable games (maybe the wrong name, but it was generic, if you were good or evil, but you could massively expand on that.
Haha it kind of does! :D
Just an idea, maybe instead of waiting for Fuzzites to grow you could have the main mechanic be exploration. Where the goal of exploring could be to unlock or find new Fuzzites, possibly even finding hats and other things that can be related to a fuzzite to make them more unique and special.
To tie the idea into the breeding mechanic, how about only being able to explore certain areas with certain breeds of fuzzites? For example, a blue fuzzite could be a cold area fuzzite. Allowing the player to explore a colder area and find different items or fuzzites specific to a different area. (maybe the fuzzites you find just got lost and by bringing them back to your ranch, you're rescuing them possibly to return them to their natural habitat)
Just a quick not very flushed out idea. However I hope you enjoy it or it at least gives you ideas of your own. Keep up the great content.
That's a cool idea! Thanks for sharing!
That is actually so cool
I like the graphics of version 3 the most, i love the night mechanic where you can get some night themed fuzzites
Thanks! :D
that’s so interesting i’ve also always loved the chao garden from that game! i couldn’t even remember which sonic it was for the longest time, i rented it from blockbuster for a month when i was maybe eight but i kept trying to remember and described it to people… as like “the one where you can get chaos as pets and if you try to drown them they become water chaos” lmao there really was something special about it though! good luck on fuzzites i would love to play :)
I'm also really into the online idea, can't wait to hear more about this game!
Thanks!
You need to finish the game!!! the chao garden was one of the most fun side mechanics in games, i absolutely loved it at the time, and would definely would love to play a more recent and upgraded version of it :D
I will! :D
I really like how #5 looks, really nice colors
Thanks! :D
The mmo one does look really nice, I want to play it! :D
I'm also really glad I watched this video. I sometimes wish I didnt give up on projects from the past, but this video shows it's never too late to pick it back up again
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ah, this video is very relatable. My dream game was something I cooked up around 5 years ago and I've made numerous attempts at it. The thing holding me back the most is my own ability to focus on a project. At this point, I just want to get a combat prototype up and running and while I've had a couple attempts that got pretty close, none of them has become something playable. I still wanna keep at it, though! I don't think I'll ever stop trying.
Go for it! :D
That's amazing gamedev journey, hope your game will be success.
I hope so too! Thanks!
Would be an awesome version of what puffles could have been. Like club penguin but the igloos are personal farms, and you could set up your own shops in the towns! Great now I have to learn how to make that...
That would be cool
You conclusion is perfectly summarized. Sometimes it's not really scope creep, but the fact that 99% of the time, the game we end up making just never properly captures what we wanted it to be in terms of the emotional connection we originally had to it as just an idea.
Keep it up, I'm loving all the versions you're making!
Thanks so much, and well said!
seems like when you finally create this game, it will be amazing. you clearly have a lot of passion. you are willing to wait until you get it right which will definitely pay off.
I appreciate that! :D
One of the creators of Nuclear Throne and Super Crate Box (from Vlambeer), did a talk a few years ago about making games. He said something to the effect of "the reason you can't make the game in your head is because the 'game' in your head is an idea --- not a game." Our minds do a really good job of tricking us into thinking that we have the whole picture, and that that picture is an accurate reflection of how it will work reality. But, if you stop to think about it, neither of those points are really true. Considering this wisdom could be applied to essentially *any* creative pursuit, I think that this was one of the most profound bits of wisdom I've ever heard...
That's a great piece of advice! Thanks for sharing.
Version #3 is the best I love the art and feel. I would definitely enjoy playing that!
:D
It's a cool idea and one that I'd love to see fleshed out however like you mention at the star, it's more of a side mission that is added to another game. So in a way you could add fuzzites to any game you want
I love that idea!
i like the aesthetics of the 3d version and version #5, I feel like this game could totally work with the fuzzites as the focus if you make it into a mobile game (a game that is designed to be "left alone"- a game that you need to come back to)
Definitely!
I think the MMO version had the most promise. Not necessarily the multiplayer platform, but the premise of having a little critter that grows in certain ways depending on what you do along side it to become better at solving certain puzzles/fighting a certain way.
The puzzle-like combat is also very interesting. It could push the player to evolve their critter to perform different movements in battle to overcome increasingly difficult puzzle fights.
That's a great point! :D
I love exploration in games. This is what motivates me in any game. So I like the «gather ressources, explore and pet my creatures» the most. I am not an online type of player but this version was very cool too. Also very inspiring to watch and listen because I just starting my own journey with game dev and making a game, that I want to play, is so satisfying. But I see your point that the mechanics you like are not meant to be the main mechanic of the game. I will take this into my game design process. Very helpful and inspiring video.
Thanks for sharing!
Wow, I was also inspired to make games by a chao garden obsession. I remember it being the first feature I’d check for in ever new Sonic game. I never made it much further than Gamemaker 7 though. I’m impressed your project files survived!
That's awesome! And I'm surprised they lasted as well haha
I loved the idea of the real time stuff and the rare fuzzites
:D
I really like that grid battle style!!!!!!!! I just started working with Godot - yesterday - and I think I wanna mess with that as well.
That's awesome! :D
i really like version 5 art style, looks soo cuute!
Aww, thanks! :D
Awesome to hear about the inspiration. Fell in love with that aspect of the sonic game as well. One of the main parts I remember the game for, and some what of a inspiration on game ideas as well. Just cool to see others hitting the same inspiration source. It was one of the things I recall seeing in demo booths of the dreamcast at stores where people left off being at, and always goofed off with the little fellows.
Couldn't agree more!
I admire the dedication over the years. My issue is always that the dream game I have in my head is realistically way too big. I need to find the core aspects of it and drop all the filler
That's that hardest part, but I believe we can do it! :D
I think version 4 is the best in my opinion, hope you keep working on it and make it perfect. would definitely love to see the finished project!
Thanks! Will do!
Can't wait when i am finish with my Bachelorthesis and can work on games again - keep goind dude, great vids
Thanks so much! You got this, man!
This was such a fun video to watch!
Thanks! :D
I really think that your idea of fuzzites really kind of works best if it isn't the sole focus of a game. I'm pretty sure that the reason the Chao Garden is so beloved isn't just because it's raising creatures, but that it's a different experience and feels like it's separate from the rest of the game. Making it so the fuzzite portion of a game can affect the other portion, whatever it may be, and vice versa seems like it would be the best way to execute it.
Thanks for sharing!
Loved the video. Seeing the Chao Garden took me BAAAAAACk. I really liked the "single-screen" Game Jam version, the art style was "on-point" and it looked very concise. I could see that version of Fuzzites being an "idle-ish" game for mobile (a virtual pet I guess), or a sub-game within a bigger game, akin to the original Chao Garden. The "Big Game" could even be a 3D thing and then you go into an "in-game Game Boy-like apparatus" to play Fuzzites.
:D
That's so crazy, i also always dreamed of making a chao game, but i'm more at the start of my gamedev journey.
You definitely should!
I'll get back to mine one day. Mostly worked on it as a hobby project. I found one of the biggest time consumers was pixel art, still got to finish the animations for 36 unique variants that are 64x64. Maybe after I finish all these assets for a UE4 project I'm collabing on.
XD
This video hit home for me I have taken such a similar journey to you, thats so cool! Im a Game dev and graphic designer as well here who also loves chao and sonic. I was super obsessed as well and still want to make my own version one day!
Dude, we should form the Graphic Designer Game Dev's Chao group haha
@@Goodgis agreed, it sounds official!👊
I feel we are on a similar journey.
Wish you good luck, Fuzzites looks like a game I would love to play too!
Don't give up. :)
Thanks, you too! :D
I think you should make it a multiplayer, I really love the battle system so it would be cool to trade and battle other players. Thats what makes a game like Pokemon so fun for me, its the social interaction and the grinding to beat other players, it really gives the feeling of accomplishment. And that is what makes a good game for me.
I completely agree!
excited to see what the 2.5d one will turn into
;)
U brought to me a lot of good old memories when I saw Sonic game, I spent hours playing it with my brother and cousin.
:D
that turn based combat on a grid is a great idea!
Thanks!
You could make it like an idle game, where you check up on it every few hours or something. That could solve the "It's fun in short bursts but isn't great as a standalone experience" problem.
I like it! :D
I live the idea of fuzzites as an mmo rpg, it looked really fleshed out and I think its the best concept out of all of them!
Thanks so much! :D
Hello fellow former chao obsessor. I was just scouring the internet for chao garden inspired games and I thought _someone_ had to have made something like it already. Couldn't find much though. Glad to find someone finally doing so.
As for what you had asked, I feel that version 3 and 4 work the best. The final 3D-esque one looks promising but I can't comment much on it with how little there was. But I will say that it does seem like it would be fitting if you used that to emulate what made the chao garden work. A main game and then that little island to come and check on on the side. I had the same realization as you when playing Chao Resort Island a few years back. The chao garden doesn't work in a vacuum. Good on you for realizing that.
Love the name Fuzzite btw
P.S.
I can see that little island working with version 4 as the main little area where you keep the rest of your fuzzites as you go out to explore with the one you have following you. I think you've got good stuff that you can draw from all of your attempts here to make something great.
Thanks so much! :D I feel like it's my responsibility to finally make a Chao game for the world to enjoy haha
@@Goodgis good thing I'm subscribed then to see it ;)
My fav version is no. 4
The "combat system" is a cool thing, I would still build something like craftig for food. So that certain fuzzies only need certain crafted food. A few villagers or similar, time-controlled trees that can drop ingredients.
Unfortunately I haven't played the Sonic game, but I can imagine that (like Tamagotchi) a survival mechanic would add some spice to the game.
That's not a bad idea! :D