Sad to watch 2 winches get destroyed when you had an excavator there to dig around the stump a little to loosen everything up, but your still having fun
Sad to watch because it wasn't set up right at all.. the tire has to be higher then the choke.. and as close as possible.. it has to pull up.. not 45 decor less.
Cody, a word of advice. Always drape something over your cable, an old floor mat, piece of carpet or a carhartt coat. If the cable snaps, all the stored energy will be dissipated by the mat or coat, causing the cable to harmlessly fall to the ground. Stay safe and God Bless.
everyone always says if that cable snaps it will cut u in half absolutely false that would never happen. watch myth busters snap a cable and try to cut a pig on half.
A strong second: always good to provide some means of arresting all flying hardware- not just cables. If you break a chain, the snatch block goes through your radiator, etc. Redirects can limit the risk so the hardware flies toward some unoccupied object. Snatch blocks can turn into cannonballs, especially when connected to something made of chinesium.
Many years ago we've had a failing cable press-on clamp with our tractor pulling a small cultivator plow uphill in the vineyards (long story...it is that way in the Moselle-region in Germany). The snapped steel cable came whiplashing back all the way uphill, ripped the tractor's cabin roof open and caught onto my Mum's ring finger right where here wedding ring sat. She kept her said finger, but the flesh was cut through unto the bone. You can see the scars there 40 years later. BTW: We still have & use both the tractor and its cable pull...a 1961 FENDT Farmer 2.
@@lincolnrock9158 a cable at this level won't cut you in half, but it will ruin your day. lots of stiches, maybe even a burst eyeball if you get unlucky. imagine being whipped with a steel cable by Shaq, and it will hit way harder than that.
Same with mesquites except they grow in dry, hard clay and rock and when I tried this technique it sent my 22.5 flying across the yard and rolling down the ditch
Hey. Just for safety...you should always put a blanket or a heavy coat over the cables, incase the cable breaks. The cable won't go flying thru the air. Be safe
I was checking through the comments to see if this had been mentioned. Yes, an old blanket over the chain and cables would have reduced some of my anxiety while watching this. an old tire with the cables threaded through it would work well, too. Just need to dampen that energy if/when something breaks.
First thing I was taught in the military with winching - always, always have something draped over the cables, so that if something breaks there is a damper on them. I've seen it work in practice, saved a windscreen and the driver from having a cable and hook come their way.
For a professional homeowner, sometimes I wonder about your thinking! Especially when you had a perfectly good excavator at your disposal. Must be a west coast thing.
no need to wonder about his thinking he went from using a 9000lb winch tripled by 2 pulleys to 27000lbs to a 12000lb winch doubled by when winch to 24000lbs and expected it not to break and then proceed to make another video calling the 12000lb winch a piece of junk when common sense would say that he broke the winch by doing dumbshit.
South Carolian here, I pulled out a bigger tree the same way but with two 22.5 wheels bolted together, 30 ft of 3/8 chain and a semi truck bobtail. Wasn't easy, but finally got it after i put the chain over the tire instead of between the duals.
Build a timber "A" frame as a redirect. You'll get more vertical pull. If the legs of the A are dug in so they don't slide, and are relatively close to the object, you'll also multiply the pull - chain to the top of the A frame. Then winch from the top of the A.
This design I am with!! I read timber as lumber the first time and I was gonna disagree but with timber’s it would have far more pulling strength. That tire was too close and not exerting as much upward force once the tire compressed on top and bottom
he literally wrote it on the screen "the winch motor cracked its mount and is now destroying itself". The winch didn't break, he exceeded the mounts capabilities. Even a warn would've broke the mount/bolts.
@@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 They can play hell in residential areas destroying underground pipes and lines. I wish people wouldn't plant them "in town".
The most simple, effective and safe way to remove a stump completely is to cut down the stump as low as you can, then take a 55 gallon steel drum, and cut the bottom out. Then you light a nice size fire in that steel drum. In a few hours the entire stump is gone. 👍
I've used this method to pull stumps before so I could see right away that the tire you were using was not tall enough to get the required upward angle. I found a large tractor tire or a tire from a semi truck works really well to get the upward angle necessary to pull the stump upwards and not sideways against the ground. Additionally, using another set of pulleys (doubling the number) would halve the forces needed and reduce strain on the equipment even more (less breakage). Last but not least, it really pays to plan ahead and heavily water the area around the stump, especially if it is a larger one. If you do all of these things, you will be amazed at how easily even huge stumps come out of the ground for you!
Aspen groves are one tree. My guess is your aspen trees are all part of the same tree and their root system is interconnected, that’s why it’s so difficult to pull the stump using that method.
I don’t know what trees I have around my shop and yard and neighbors yards but the roots are all along and trees spout up everywhere constant trimming and cutting and they grow fast.ido like the shade though lol
@@Isaac_5.56x45 That's a pretty ironic viewpoint to have considering the main reason why the overwhelming vast majority of American homeschooled students are homeschooled is specifically to preserve the ideology of the kid's parents. Another bit of irony here is that most of these parents are the type of people who would use the phrase "free market of ideas" seriously, while missing the bit where, if the ideology they seek to preserve in their children is good, it isn't threatened by exposure to other ideas.
@@nomar5spaulding I was always able to think for myself and disagree with my parents on certain things, they taught me a complete education, and I made my own conclusions. That is why I am how I am.
@@Isaac_5.56x45 Good for you. You're either one of the lucky few, or you're smarter than most people, or they failed in their mission. To be completely up front, I know people who did awesome homeschooling, and people who did terrible, but the one thing they all have in common with eachother is the false fear that the mission of school is to wash the Christianity out of their kids. I left the Church, but it had nothing to do with school.
Is public school trying to wash Christianity out of schools… no. They are just doing it by them doing their day to day job. Teaching crt, abortion in health class and revisionist history is washing away Christian fundamentals.
I love it when you share homeschooling with Jack, and I love the man he is becoming. Ya'll are doing such a good job calling him into manhood. He is nearly there. I can almost see the relationship between you changing, and he is becoming more of an equal. It is going to be a sad day when he leaves home.
I can't bear to watch this. So over stressing everything. Just waiting for something to go Bang! Can't say you didn't try like heck though. Glad you kept Jack out of the way. Always enjoy your vids. Thanks.
Aspens have an extensive interconnectected root system where multiple trunks/trees have interconnectected roots. When you see an hillside full of Aspen all of those tress are typically part of the same giant interconnected organism. They often send underground roots many feet away from the original tree that turn into other trees. I am guessing this played a part in why it was so difficult to pull out with a winch.
If you were just testing equipment and seeing how good it is for everybody else that's awesome. Otherwise that's a very silly way to use up valuable resources
Pre watch comment: Personally I like leaving the tree, and just attacking a few roots with an axe on one side of the tree. Then just pull the thing over using the tree itself as a 20 foot lever.
I removed some stumps this summer. About 12" diameter green ash trees. We got some long pruning blades for reciprocating saw, used a small mattox to dig dirt away enough to see the large roots, cut the roots off(even through the dirt yes), then tugged with a 100hp john deere tractor. Some came and some didn't. One we got stumped on so we had another 160hp or more tractor hooked up with both churning sod under all 8 wheels and wouldn't even budge it
Cool trick: when using cables for pulling anything and you are concerned with the cable breaking and lashing someone. Place a towel or rag on the cable in the middle so if it snaps all the energy of the lash will go to the towel or rag. Even resting a tree branch works and makes it a lot safer.
One of the largest organisms in the world is an aspen grove in the Rockies somewhere- all connected to one another through the root system. Those trees are tough and given time will connect and destroy any winch! Lol. Valuable lesson for sure. 😀 May have to grind it down or cut it out. Anyway, keep at it fellas. Good luck! Troy
We pull things like that with a tractor twist all the time. Back the tractor tire up tight to the post or stump, choke the stump and chin up over the tire top,down to the axel housing tight, pull forward and it will pull straight up and out.
Besides dropping something over the line, it’s also a good idea to open the vehicle hood to act as a shield for the windshield in the event the line snaps. Just my tiny bit of advice from an east coast professional homeowner from PA. Have a wonderful day.
I'd be afraid to do that with a winch but good attempt. You have sure raised a smart young man with a good head on his shoulders. Time to buy another winch, haha.
Wow Jack has really grown up since last time I saw him in one of your videos. Deeper voice, much more vocal, and speaks very on point. Good Job Wranglerstar family.
I have pulled many tree stumps some of which were much bigger that that one. I found that the best way is to dig all around the stump with a backhoe making sure to break all of the roots. Once all of the major roots are broken it is easy to lift the stump and root system out.
I have to think with how tough that was to cut to begin with, its that tough below. Dig around, and use a carbide sawzall blade on the lateral roots, then your other methods should work
Maybe the harbor freight isn't ready for prime time.... Because the immovable object could not be pulled out! That is a pretty high standard to have to live up to!! Good stuff gents!
Well, you seemed to have missed that a winches rating is fot the first wrap on the spool, so really your 9k is only pulling about 6500, and your 12k is about 9500
Yes, I was thinking the same! He was claiming he had 2400 lbs pulling power using the snatch block. In reality he had only 1200 lbs pulling power, if the cable was extended out to where he had only the first wrap on the spool.
Best video I have seen from you!! I would recommend to search the fails from that tire trick on YT. When that doesn’t work you get lots of stuff flying around due to the compression of the tire on the rim being a spring of stored energy. These fail videos teach even more effectively than the success stories. Thanks for sharing.
The old-timers used stump jacks we had one in our family for years made out of wood for pulling stumps. Also in most feilds was left one tree that was the tree that was hooked to to pull the rest of the stumps out of the field. Most of the fields in our area have one gigantic tree still standing because of this. Very good video thanks for sharing it's nice when folks show their defeat as well as their success. I have seen lots of videos with this wheel method however we all know things can go really wrong really quick using this method. I saw stumps pulled using logs as a tripod as the tripod was pulled forward there was a center chain pulling the stump straight up it'll seem to work pretty well but required a chain hooked on the bottom end of the two log legs holding them in place until a chain pulling in the other directionup to what will become the top of the tripod after it stands them up.
@@espears6606 yeah the 1st winch, that failed to remove the stump as well, was a Warn. I have done a lot of hard pulls with that 12k Apex winch, stuff it should have had no business getting done to be honest, without issue. I'm not knocking Warn, far from it, they make a tremendous product but at a tremendous price. I have owned 3 new Warn winches and 2 used that I loved but for the price the Apex is just a better value. I'm still on my 1st Apex and it's 3 years old currently and I have had Warns last a short as a year and had to have them replace the unit as it was totally FUBARed (don't try and pull a 15,000lb dozer uphill, that one was totally all me). I know that when this Apex breaks I'm more than likely not going to be able to repair it or have it repaired and I'm fairly certain that customer support on the Apex will be effectively non-existent. Every time I have had to call Warn it was damn near a pleasure. After they blew the relays on the Warn in the 1st attempt, they should have used the correct tool. Excavator and tractor in combination of push pull would likely have broke it loose enough to be winched out. For average users the Apex will be much more than they will ever use. I use a winch daily to feed my kids and put clothing on them and still use an Apex after using Warn for decades. I'm not disappointed in the Warn products and will likely get another in the future but I have no regrets getting the Apex
I have taken out a few Douglas fir stumps this year. I'm doing it by myself. A shovel, a long carbide tipped Sawzall blade, and a 1-ton chain hoist is all on using. Only use the shovel to expose the top of the root. Use the Sawzall to cut right through the dirt and the root. After the main roots are cut they're not that hard to pull out. Discovered the Sawzall through dirt technique when digging bamboo to transplant. It really is a rather fantastic way to remove stubborn plants from the ground.
I've pulled fenceposts and stumps, using the tire/chain, hooked to the trailer hitch of my truck. I've never tried winching one out, like you're showing. I'd have thought that winching would've worked.
To start with, I really enjoy your videos. The trick with the wheel and winch works great for pulling posts. For pulling stumps of that size you either need a D7 or you could strike around it with a sub soiler on your tractor to sever the roots and then try the winch with a wheel "no tire". I find inspiration in watching your videos and the wholesome way you guide your family. Much respect from "an East Coast Man"
I Remember Doing about the Same Thing With my GrandPaw When i Was a Kid & I Remember Thinking How Cool It Was But We Always Just Used a Old Rim Only & a Tractor !
Didn't look all the way through the the comments but here's something my Dad taught me. When pulling a really a really long length of cable or chain , put a tarp or blanket on it. When it snaps the blanket or tarp will absorb some of the energy and keep the cable from whipping around and injuring someone.
Don't let people sweat you man. Sometimes the best way to learn is one f up at a time. You're out there flying by the seat of your pants and getting stuff done. Might not always be glorious, but that's the way of manhood.
Tyre trick works good for fence posts, never tried it with a stump, possible if the ground was soaking wet, bone dry soil has way too much hold. A shovel and an axe works best in my experience since I don't have access to an excavator.
Been there done that... 1st too small of a wheel, should be twice that tall, 2nd should NOT have air in it. too many reasons to explain, 3rd stump is just to large for this method. 6 inch stump would probably be too big. Your stump looks like 10 inches or more.
Jack has really come into his own and it's awesome! Been watching for years and lately it has become so noticable that he's gaining a lot of knowledge and confidence. Love to see it
The spare tire method works best with flat straps and human placed poles like concreted fence posts. Like others have said here it needs to pull upwards which is impossible when the tire compresses and essentially just acts as a line tensioner rather than a rolling lever.
I’ve taken out larger cottonwood stumps easily after they dried out for 2 years, then using a 10” sawsall saw to work around the stump cutting as deep as I can. I leave the stump 3’ tall wrap a chain around the top & pop em out with a Chev pu 4 to 6 tugs & the balance of the roots break, Secret is there dry not necessarily rotten
Don’t know much about aspen but I’ve seen that done tons of times with a larger tire (tractor or 18 wheeler) and a chain directly to the vehicle, no wench, that wench just adds another piece to an already solved equation
I always winch with my hood up and drape something on the cable when using my winch. May dent the hood but at least the windshield is there for the drive home. Stay safe and God bless.
I don't claim to be a stump pulling expert but I've pulled many stumps with a Bobcat by bumping the stump over enough to get the roots on one side up a little and then lifting the stump up enough so I could finish pushing it over.
I've pulled up a lot of stumps on my property. I'm sure you know this Cody, but unless you're in a rush, they are MUCH easier to remove about a year after being cut, once the root hairs are decayed.
I had a bunch of trees removed. They brought in an excavator and they'd dig around the base. Then it comes right up. I've also removed stumps by hand that way.
Bro, Poplars have connected roots when there are more than one standing together. They give great stability to the ground. But they are so hard to pull out. Those stumps/trees are all connected
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Famous last words: "What could go wrong?"
Typical soy latte' sippin' West Coast dandy. Stumped by an aspen.
I can picture, that stump being launched through the windshield!
Cody your license plate is shown in the video. I thought you usually hide that.
“We got stumped” best quote ever!
👍🤪
I liked the bit about running out of winches a bit more, personally.
We laughed at that one.
Well played jack!
Sniff right here
2 winches lost but hey, you still got 2 alternators.
LOL
3 the ol 6.8l has one too 🤣
one one winch actually broke
Sad to watch 2 winches get destroyed when you had an excavator there to dig around the stump a little to loosen everything up,
but your still having fun
Sad to watch because it wasn't set up right at all.. the tire has to be higher then the choke.. and as close as possible.. it has to pull up.. not 45 decor less.
@@bobdodge3171 yeah the 45 degrees is still better then pulling horizontal though.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that warn.
@@rickyhall1772 he said relay probably burnt up again. So we know its already burned before for sure and probably again
Sad indeed, these guys have more equipment than sense
Cody, a word of advice. Always drape something over your cable, an old floor mat, piece of carpet or a carhartt coat. If the cable snaps, all the stored energy will be dissipated by the mat or coat, causing the cable to harmlessly fall to the ground. Stay safe and God Bless.
everyone always says if that cable snaps it will cut u in half absolutely false that would never happen. watch myth busters snap a cable and try to cut a pig on half.
A strong second: always good to provide some means of arresting all flying hardware- not just cables. If you break a chain, the snatch block goes through your radiator, etc. Redirects can limit the risk so the hardware flies toward some unoccupied object. Snatch blocks can turn into cannonballs, especially when connected to something made of chinesium.
I’ve seen someone get whacked with a cable before. They didn’t get cut in half but a groan man cried like a baby and got a bunch of staples.
Many years ago we've had a failing cable press-on clamp with our tractor pulling a small cultivator plow uphill in the vineyards (long story...it is that way in the Moselle-region in Germany). The snapped steel cable came whiplashing back all the way uphill, ripped the tractor's cabin roof open and caught onto my Mum's ring finger right where here wedding ring sat. She kept her said finger, but the flesh was cut through unto the bone. You can see the scars there 40 years later. BTW: We still have & use both the tractor and its cable pull...a 1961 FENDT Farmer 2.
@@lincolnrock9158 a cable at this level won't cut you in half, but it will ruin your day. lots of stiches, maybe even a burst eyeball if you get unlucky. imagine being whipped with a steel cable by Shaq, and it will hit way harder than that.
You did teach Jack a valuable lesson. just not the one you intended.
Osha approved
Cody learned the lesson, not Jack.
@@mikenixon5936 they both did
A man’s got to know his limitations! 😉
@@Soulcubb I think Jack knew it was a dumb idea before it even began.
Jack comes through with the best dad joke ever. “We got stumped”
The force is strong in that one
I think the best one was "It might have worked; we just ran out of wenches".
Never was going to work on an Aspen--those guys can have a whole forest all sharing the same root system.
There’s our problem.
Yep thats what I was thinking too.
Same with mesquites except they grow in dry, hard clay and rock and when I tried this technique it sent my 22.5 flying across the yard and rolling down the ditch
Exactly what I was thinking. He said Aspen and I just winced. Especially with other trees close by.
Yep. Aspen groves are the largest living organism in the world.
Aspen trees share their root systems so all of those stumps are intertwined. That’s why you couldn’t pull up the stump.
Popular are like that too. Or certain species at least.
@@JourneyOnLife “poplar” is aspen
Y’all must have wanted to get out of winching those logs for your friend pretty bad. 😂
West Coast Guys just don't know how to deal with Trees that have leaves. Actually Aspen trees roots spread out and connect to other trees.
🙄 west coast guys! 😂😂
Aspens grow every where coasty.
Hey. Just for safety...you should always put a blanket or a heavy coat over the cables, incase the cable breaks. The cable won't go flying thru the air. Be safe
I was checking through the comments to see if this had been mentioned. Yes, an old blanket over the chain and cables would have reduced some of my anxiety while watching this. an old tire with the cables threaded through it would work well, too. Just need to dampen that energy if/when something breaks.
Cody infact tells that in other videos where he is wenching etc. I wonder why he didn't think it now, maybe there is a reason?
@@corey6393 We pop the hood on our jeeps to keep the tackle from killing the driver if it come loose.
I love how Jack piles on the bad news, both in the same hour.
First thing I was taught in the military with winching - always, always have something draped over the cables, so that if something breaks there is a damper on them. I've seen it work in practice, saved a windscreen and the driver from having a cable and hook come their way.
Ya that and the tyre normally is right against the stump not like is in the video.
For a professional homeowner, sometimes I wonder about your thinking! Especially when you had a perfectly good excavator at your disposal. Must be a west coast thing.
You mean to tell me that using an excavator is easier than a truck, tractor, winch, and precariously balanced old tire....?
no need to wonder about his thinking he went from using a 9000lb winch tripled by 2 pulleys to 27000lbs to a 12000lb winch doubled by when winch to 24000lbs and expected it not to break and then proceed to make another video calling the 12000lb winch a piece of junk when common sense would say that he broke the winch by doing dumbshit.
I promise this is not a “west coast thing”. Dumb is everywhere, unfortunately.
An east coast man wouldn’t have tried that. Even a soft hardwood tree like a poplar needs to either have the stump ground down or dug out.
Especially a fresh, green stump.
Aspen trees are a type of Poplar, just fyi.
South Carolian here, I pulled out a bigger tree the same way but with two 22.5 wheels bolted together, 30 ft of 3/8 chain and a semi truck bobtail. Wasn't easy, but finally got it after i put the chain over the tire instead of between the duals.
The steel cable can snap and whip right through your windshield .
Kinda like aircraft carrier arrest cables can snap and whip slice a fella in two!!!😳
Also can literally cut you in half or take your head clean off...
Yep, plus with that tire under such a heavy load it's going somewhere too. Even if nothing breaks and that tire slips out somebody could be killed.
It's a synthetic cable. The only steel is the chain. Edit: on the second winch. The first was likely steel.
Yes, with that much tension on the cable, if anything broke it could kill you.
The cable could cut you half in two.
That was intense.
“I think it would work, we just ran out of winches” 😂
Get rid the tire tbh
This was definitely my favorite line
Build a timber "A" frame as a redirect. You'll get more vertical pull. If the legs of the A are dug in so they don't slide, and are relatively close to the object, you'll also multiply the pull - chain to the top of the A frame. Then winch from the top of the A.
This design I am with!! I read timber as lumber the first time and I was gonna disagree but with timber’s it would have far more pulling strength. That tire was too close and not exerting as much upward force once the tire compressed on top and bottom
Jesus, Jack’s voice dropped like an anvil since the last time I watched and he sounds like his papa
Hope you post a autopsy video of where the winch broke
he literally wrote it on the screen "the winch motor cracked its mount and is now destroying itself". The winch didn't break, he exceeded the mounts capabilities. Even a warn would've broke the mount/bolts.
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Aspen Trees: 2 (winches)
Ha ha ha! As the winch began to eat itself for the second time: "Simply safe..."
Best timing for an ad ever!
Noticed that too. I chuckled.
Simply Safe was in charge of security, not actual safety.
That harbor freight wench seemed solid. Don't blame the equipment, blame the operator Cody lol.
As a Colorado Rocky Mountain man, you underestimate the strength of aspen roots.
Amen!
Considered one of the biggest living organisms on earth. Aspen is sacred, I wouldn't have disturbed it.
@@thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 They can play hell in residential areas destroying underground pipes and lines. I wish people wouldn't plant them "in town".
The most simple, effective and safe way to remove a stump completely is to cut down the stump as low as you can, then take a 55 gallon steel drum, and cut the bottom out. Then you light a nice size fire in that steel drum. In a few hours the entire stump is gone. 👍
Where int he heck do you people find 55g steel drums these days? I haven't seen one since I was a kid.
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he tried that at his last homestead. didn't seem to work so well either
I've used this method to pull stumps before so I could see right away that the tire you were using was not tall enough to get the required upward angle. I found a large tractor tire or a tire from a semi truck works really well to get the upward angle necessary to pull the stump upwards and not sideways against the ground. Additionally, using another set of pulleys (doubling the number) would halve the forces needed and reduce strain on the equipment even more (less breakage). Last but not least, it really pays to plan ahead and heavily water the area around the stump, especially if it is a larger one. If you do all of these things, you will be amazed at how easily even huge stumps come out of the ground for you!
Isn't the largest living thing in the world a 120 acre aspen in the Rockies? I think you're gonna need a bigger winch.
Pando.
no, its a mushroom in Oregon
You need a bigger lever for a stump that size. Definitely should have dug out the roots first.
Aspen groves are one tree. My guess is your aspen trees are all part of the same tree and their root system is interconnected, that’s why it’s so difficult to pull the stump using that method.
I don’t know what trees I have around my shop and yard and neighbors yards but the roots are all along and trees spout up everywhere constant trimming and cutting and they grow fast.ido like the shade though lol
Well, the young man knows to listen to his gut. Another win for home schooling.
Everyday I am grateful to God that my parents homeschooled me.
Public schools are brainwashing animal farms.
@@Isaac_5.56x45 That's a pretty ironic viewpoint to have considering the main reason why the overwhelming vast majority of American homeschooled students are homeschooled is specifically to preserve the ideology of the kid's parents. Another bit of irony here is that most of these parents are the type of people who would use the phrase "free market of ideas" seriously, while missing the bit where, if the ideology they seek to preserve in their children is good, it isn't threatened by exposure to other ideas.
@@nomar5spaulding I was always able to think for myself and disagree with my parents on certain things, they taught me a complete education, and I made my own conclusions. That is why I am how I am.
@@Isaac_5.56x45 Good for you. You're either one of the lucky few, or you're smarter than most people, or they failed in their mission. To be completely up front, I know people who did awesome homeschooling, and people who did terrible, but the one thing they all have in common with eachother is the false fear that the mission of school is to wash the Christianity out of their kids. I left the Church, but it had nothing to do with school.
Is public school trying to wash Christianity out of schools… no. They are just doing it by them doing their day to day job. Teaching crt, abortion in health class and revisionist history is washing away Christian fundamentals.
Ironic combination of dangerous activities with a sponsor named Simply Safe... Professional Homeowner material for sure.
Aspen tree roots all connect to one another. Pretty cool
So good technique poor choice of target.
I love it when you share homeschooling with Jack, and I love the man he is becoming. Ya'll are doing such a good job calling him into manhood. He is nearly there. I can almost see the relationship between you changing, and he is becoming more of an equal. It is going to be a sad day when he leaves home.
Jack has more sense than his dad. Thank goodness he takes after his mama.
Lol, yep. I haven't watched a ton of videos on this channel, but Jack was far more on the ball in this particular one.
There is a big difference between "Static" & " Rolling" Loads. That's why logging winches are much stronger
What a smart kid. You're a great father and should be proud! Much love from Michigan.
I can't bear to watch this. So over stressing everything. Just waiting for something to go Bang! Can't say you didn't try like heck though. Glad you kept Jack out of the way. Always enjoy your vids. Thanks.
I'm not a h&s freak, but this was stupidly dangerous!
Aspens have an extensive interconnectected root system where multiple trunks/trees have interconnectected roots. When you see an hillside full of Aspen all of those tress are typically part of the same giant interconnected organism. They often send underground roots many feet away from the original tree that turn into other trees. I am guessing this played a part in why it was so difficult to pull out with a winch.
Thumbs up for Jack's 'dad joke'. Don't ever lose that sense of humor, my young friend!
If you were just testing equipment and seeing how good it is for everybody else that's awesome. Otherwise that's a very silly way to use up valuable resources
That's the exact comment I made out loud when I started the video!
Pre watch comment: Personally I like leaving the tree, and just attacking a few roots with an axe on one side of the tree. Then just pull the thing over using the tree itself as a 20 foot lever.
I removed some stumps this summer. About 12" diameter green ash trees. We got some long pruning blades for reciprocating saw, used a small mattox to dig dirt away enough to see the large roots, cut the roots off(even through the dirt yes), then tugged with a 100hp john deere tractor. Some came and some didn't. One we got stumped on so we had another 160hp or more tractor hooked up with both churning sod under all 8 wheels and wouldn't even budge it
I need Jack on my crew! The young man can be a heck of a tradesman.
I knew this was going to fail, only way without digging around and cutting some roots is a dozer.
Watching @2:43 aren't aspen tree roots all connected together with neighboring aspens?
Cool trick: when using cables for pulling anything and you are concerned with the cable breaking and lashing someone. Place a towel or rag on the cable in the middle so if it snaps all the energy of the lash will go to the towel or rag. Even resting a tree branch works and makes it a lot safer.
One of the largest organisms in the world is an aspen grove in the Rockies somewhere- all connected to one another through the root system. Those trees are tough and given time will connect and destroy any winch! Lol. Valuable lesson for sure. 😀 May have to grind it down or cut it out. Anyway, keep at it fellas. Good luck! Troy
We pull things like that with a tractor twist all the time. Back the tractor tire up tight to the post or stump, choke the stump and chin up over the tire top,down to the axel housing tight, pull forward and it will pull straight up and out.
I have been cutting my stumps off below the ground and leaving them. Yes, it does damage a cutting chain but cheaper in the long run!
Besides dropping something over the line, it’s also a good idea to open the vehicle hood to act as a shield for the windshield in the event the line snaps. Just my tiny bit of advice from an east coast professional homeowner from PA. Have a wonderful day.
I'd be afraid to do that with a winch but good attempt. You have sure raised a smart young man with a good head on his shoulders. Time to buy another winch, haha.
From my understanding, Aspen trees are interconnected so pulling the stump might be pulling roots from all the other trees in that area as well.
Personally I am a proponent of stump grinding. More effective, less hazardous.
Nice Beaver!!!😁👍🏻😂🤣😆
Wow Jack has really grown up since last time I saw him in one of your videos. Deeper voice, much more vocal, and speaks very on point.
Good Job Wranglerstar family.
Guys everywhere can relate. I shouldn't do this...Let's see how it goes!
I have pulled many tree stumps some of which were much bigger that that one. I found that the best way is to dig all around the stump with a backhoe making sure to break all of the roots. Once all of the major roots are broken it is easy to lift the stump and root system out.
I have to think with how tough that was to cut to begin with, its that tough below.
Dig around, and use a carbide sawzall blade on the lateral roots, then your other methods should work
Maybe the harbor freight isn't ready for prime time.... Because the immovable object could not be pulled out! That is a pretty high standard to have to live up to!! Good stuff gents!
You usually learn more from what doesn't go to plan.
Good judgement comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgement
I am super impressed by your son and his reasoning skills and skills in general. Your doing a great job wranglerstar family
Well, you seemed to have missed that a winches rating is fot the first wrap on the spool, so really your 9k is only pulling about 6500, and your 12k is about 9500
Yes, I was thinking the same! He was claiming he had 2400 lbs pulling power using the snatch block. In reality he had only 1200 lbs pulling power, if the cable was extended out to where he had only the first wrap on the spool.
Best video I have seen from you!! I would recommend to search the fails from that tire trick on YT. When that doesn’t work you get lots of stuff flying around due to the compression of the tire on the rim being a spring of stored energy. These fail videos teach even more effectively than the success stories. Thanks for sharing.
Very comical placement of the simplisafe. Lol motor breaks, "SIMPLISAFE!"
The old-timers used stump jacks we had one in our family for years made out of wood for pulling stumps. Also in most feilds was left one tree that was the tree that was hooked to to pull the rest of the stumps out of the field. Most of the fields in our area have one gigantic tree still standing because of this. Very good video thanks for sharing it's nice when folks show their defeat as well as their success. I have seen lots of videos with this wheel method however we all know things can go really wrong really quick using this method. I saw stumps pulled using logs as a tripod as the tripod was pulled forward there was a center chain pulling the stump straight up it'll seem to work pretty well but required a chain hooked on the bottom end of the two log legs holding them in place until a chain pulling in the other directionup to what will become the top of the tripod after it stands them up.
Aspens roots are all connected to one another nearby
Going to be a lot of ground sprouts in the future.
The phrase " This is gonna end badly " is used a lot at the start of my projects. Usually comes true.
Cody’s on Warn’s website looking for a new winch 😂
As he should have been from the start,superior product and manufacturing
@@espears6606 the warn burnt up also. Product abuse doesn’t mean a poor product.
@@espears6606 yeah the 1st winch, that failed to remove the stump as well, was a Warn. I have done a lot of hard pulls with that 12k Apex winch, stuff it should have had no business getting done to be honest, without issue. I'm not knocking Warn, far from it, they make a tremendous product but at a tremendous price. I have owned 3 new Warn winches and 2 used that I loved but for the price the Apex is just a better value. I'm still on my 1st Apex and it's 3 years old currently and I have had Warns last a short as a year and had to have them replace the unit as it was totally FUBARed (don't try and pull a 15,000lb dozer uphill, that one was totally all me). I know that when this Apex breaks I'm more than likely not going to be able to repair it or have it repaired and I'm fairly certain that customer support on the Apex will be effectively non-existent. Every time I have had to call Warn it was damn near a pleasure. After they blew the relays on the Warn in the 1st attempt, they should have used the correct tool. Excavator and tractor in combination of push pull would likely have broke it loose enough to be winched out.
For average users the Apex will be much more than they will ever use. I use a winch daily to feed my kids and put clothing on them and still use an Apex after using Warn for decades. I'm not disappointed in the Warn products and will likely get another in the future but I have no regrets getting the Apex
I have taken out a few Douglas fir stumps this year. I'm doing it by myself. A shovel, a long carbide tipped Sawzall blade, and a 1-ton chain hoist is all on using. Only use the shovel to expose the top of the root. Use the Sawzall to cut right through the dirt and the root. After the main roots are cut they're not that hard to pull out. Discovered the Sawzall through dirt technique when digging bamboo to transplant. It really is a rather fantastic way to remove stubborn plants from the ground.
Why in god's name would you transplant bamboo? Were you planting it in someone's yard for some type of revenge?
Okay you do realize that aspen roots are all connected right? It’s all one big tree with one root system.
Don't blame the winch you are asking it to pull more than it was made to.
@@michaeltolliver7821 I’m not blaming the winch?
I've pulled fenceposts and stumps, using the tire/chain, hooked to the trailer hitch of my truck. I've never tried winching one out, like you're showing. I'd have thought that winching would've worked.
Man, that thing is more stubborn than an east coast liberal! But WAY stronger than an east coast man…
Not great that both winches broke, do they not have anything in them to 'fuse' when there's too much load?
I before E except Aspen see. "Well, if Fortune be a woman, she's a good wench for this gear." -- Bill Shakespeare 'The Wranglestar of Venice'
One Naval training video on mooring line dangers and it changed my perspective on tensioned lines forever.
When Jack said “smell right here” it would have been GREAT if Jack had passed gas !!
He who smellt, it dealt it lol
We always used an old Massey Harris rear wheel with no tire. 5ft diameter and worked amazing. Soaking the ground helps tremendously.
Are we going to get a workbench breakdown of what happened to the harbor freight winch?
Jack seemed to be the Professional in this video, comparatively speaking.
Those were nice looking trees. I would have just moved the green house over a bit. The yard had got plenty of open space. But what do I know : )
To start with, I really enjoy your videos.
The trick with the wheel and winch works great for pulling posts.
For pulling stumps of that size you either need a D7 or you could strike around it with a sub soiler on your tractor to sever the roots and then try the winch with a wheel "no tire".
I find inspiration in watching your videos and the wholesome way you guide your family.
Much respect from "an East Coast Man"
What has happened to this channel? Jack is clearly the more sensible of the two. WTH were the chaps for? 🤣
I Remember Doing about the Same Thing With my GrandPaw When i Was a Kid & I Remember Thinking How Cool It Was But We Always Just Used a Old Rim Only & a Tractor !
Yeah, digging is the better option. at least dig some of the stump up first.
They may sprout up inside the greenhouse.
Didn't look all the way through the the comments but here's something my Dad taught me. When pulling a really a really long length of cable or chain , put a tarp or blanket on it. When it snaps the blanket or tarp will absorb some of the energy and keep the cable from whipping around and injuring someone.
Don't let people sweat you man. Sometimes the best way to learn is one f up at a time. You're out there flying by the seat of your pants and getting stuff done. Might not always be glorious, but that's the way of manhood.
Tyre trick works good for fence posts, never tried it with a stump, possible if the ground was soaking wet, bone dry soil has way too much hold. A shovel and an axe works best in my experience since I don't have access to an excavator.
Pretty sure Aspens are clones, with one hell of a root system. Thanks for your honesty as always, it's what makes this channel one of the best on YT.
Been there done that... 1st too small of a wheel, should be twice that tall, 2nd should NOT have air in it. too many reasons to explain, 3rd stump is just to large for this method. 6 inch stump would probably be too big. Your stump looks like 10 inches or more.
CODY, you "smellt it" - "you dealt it" LOL
Jack has really come into his own and it's awesome! Been watching for years and lately it has become so noticable that he's gaining a lot of knowledge and confidence. Love to see it
The spare tire method works best with flat straps and human placed poles like concreted fence posts. Like others have said here it needs to pull upwards which is impossible when the tire compresses and essentially just acts as a line tensioner rather than a rolling lever.
I’ve taken out larger cottonwood stumps easily after they dried out for 2 years, then using a 10” sawsall saw to work around the stump cutting as deep as I can. I leave the stump 3’ tall wrap a chain around the top & pop em out with a Chev pu 4 to 6 tugs & the balance of the roots break, Secret is there dry not necessarily rotten
Don’t know much about aspen but I’ve seen that done tons of times with a larger tire (tractor or 18 wheeler) and a chain directly to the vehicle, no wench, that wench just adds another piece to an already solved equation
I always winch with my hood up and drape something on the cable when using my winch. May dent the hood but at least the windshield is there for the drive home. Stay safe and God bless.
I don't claim to be a stump pulling expert but I've pulled many stumps with a Bobcat by bumping the stump over enough to get the roots on one side up a little and then lifting the stump up enough so I could finish pushing it over.
I've pulled up a lot of stumps on my property. I'm sure you know this Cody, but unless you're in a rush, they are MUCH easier to remove about a year after being cut, once the root hairs are decayed.
I had a bunch of trees removed. They brought in an excavator and they'd dig around the base. Then it comes right up. I've also removed stumps by hand that way.
Bro, Poplars have connected roots when there are more than one standing together. They give great stability to the ground. But they are so hard to pull out. Those stumps/trees are all connected
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