Some people use F-bombs like basic punctuation. They go off like weensy, annoying little squibs. Other people, such as the Admiral's Admirable Wife in Story 1 deploy F-bombs and they land like tactical nukes.
Many decades ago I was on an army base in my sailor uniform, standing in line and waiting patiently with a friend. Military in uniform get head of the line privileges, but I have honestly never seen anyone take advantage of this as most of us are in uniform. A Karen is screaming that her O-2 husband is important and she needs to cut in front of everyone. When they denied her, she just starts screaming more until this kind lady in front of us asked her who her husband was. LMFAO, apparently the Karen didn't realize the little old lady was married to the General and she was told that her husband would have a talk with Karen's husband about how wives should behave in public. She then tells us to go ahead of the line and check out. We instantly complied. I once saw a Karen park in a handicap access ramp to the NEX. She refused to move the car even after being asked politely by the base police. She then pulled rank because her husband was an E-5 at this and this command. LMFAO, the police called him on the phone and asked him if he could go to the NEX for a chat with them. They gave her a ticket and then banned both of their vehicles from base for her behavior. The husband could not apologize enough for his wife's behavior.
@@thieupham493 Aren't service spouses given a run-down of what they can and cannot get away with? Good gravy. The woman is a handicap to her husband's career.
@@ThisDoebstill enough to get her husband hit with a non-judicial punishment. When you're in the military they can and often do hold you responsible for the actions of your spouse and children
Oh, I wasn’t just talking about the last story when she puts on her boyfriend’s uniform. I’m referring to every Karen who uses their partner’s military rank to justify mistreating other people!
As a young newlywed Airman, my supervisor gave me a piece of advice to pass on to my young bride. When standing in line and a dependapotomous tries to cut in line and gives the excuse of something like "But I'm Colonel Flakbait's wife". her response should be "That's very nice but the end of the line is that way".
Years ago right after my Daughter and Son-in-Law married and him still a low rank airman, I watched him go through the long line at Baltimore’s Marshall Airport section for servicemen and women. He was still a ways back when this older man cut in front of all of them to demand service. The staff complied, apparently use to the military abuse of power. His Highness finished and the rest were then taken care of. I asked my SIL what that was about and he just shrugged, said some AF Major pulled rank and demanded immediate attention. I later mentioned this to my business partner whose older brother was an active duty full Bird out of Seymour Johnson. My partner wanted to know who the Major PITA was because his brother always put the men first. My partner, a former Army Lieutenant (ROTC) said his brother taught him good senior officers look at these young men like sons and treat them well because in most cases they are still kids.
Oh my GOSH! SHE CALLED THE BASE! I'd be surprised if that kid talks to his mom when his service is done. Hell he might become a lifer just to avoid her!😢
I heard that my mom got put on a do not answer list and that she called so much that she talked to my company commander more than his own wife. It's embarrassing. I got a little crap for it, but it wasn't too bad in my case.
I know someone who freaked out that her daughter went NC with her. She tried to word it like she was worried because her daughter was in the big bad scary Air Force, and didn't like it when I said, "Calm down. The Air Force won't let anything happen to her. And if something does happen, there's not much you can do to help anyway." She got pissy about it and asked me "What do you know about it?" and I revealed that I served for 8 years way back in the 90s and managed to call home twice a month when long distance charges were still a thing, so I know they have phones if something happens. She shut up her whining after that because to continue would require her to admit that her daughter willingly went no contact.
@@recycledapathy7411 I was in the Navy back from 1974 till 1980. Besides normal, short Atlantic "coast" cruises the ship deployed 3 times to the Mediterranean. I made a few calls from Naples, Italy to Wayland, Michigan... COLLECT. I was newly married at the time. Not cheap.
Story 2 - Oh my… OP’s sister royally screwed her son in more ways than one. If I were the nephew I’d sever ties with his ‘mother’ and NEVER talk to her again.
Huh, I had a nephew who someone in his training platoon tried something similar. The mom was told to come to camp, and she got to see her son, and was even invited to join him on KP. …
Story 3 - Belle is my hero! She made good on her word without screaming or swearing at Karen (though no would blame her if she did) And Kyle was smart to divorce Karen and drop kick her butt to the curb.
By the time you reach the rank of Major General, you don't need to scream or swear to get your point across. But if it happens, s**t has truly gone and hit the fan.
Story 1: Cutting in line should be illegal. No exceptions. Story 2: OP's sister should have had her parenthood privileges revoked years ago. Helicopter parents *always* deserve to lose contact with their offspring. Story 3: Sorry, Karen, there's no such thing as a military *spouse* discount. "Military spouse" is not a real rank. Story 4: It's *never okay* to steal! Certainly not from a child. (And he's not wrong. He did use his words.) Story 5: Yes, OP is TA. Uniform or not, you should never wear someone else's clothes.
For wearing HIS UNIFORM it's a lot more serious than just wearing clothes without permission. The bf could literally be busted down in rank, lose pay, be given extra duty, restricted to the base when on duty and restricted to his barracks when off duty. And impersonating on duty military personnel isn't taken lightly either.
1. Solution to cutting in lines, ignore the line-cutter and proceed regularly with the line. Let them throw a temper-tantrum, which may eventually lead to (best case scenario) damage to goods and shop premises or (worst case scenario) assault, and then it will be quite easy to make that into a legal matter and sue the line-cutter into oblivion. 2. I think the mother would already be booted and ditched by the son for the dressing down she gave to his CO. 3. When its a (legal and reasonable) company policy, you better accept it or else just risk getting banned from the establishment. 4. OP should have just called in the MPs instead of risking her 3 month old kid. It is never worth the hassle confronting directly when a crime (like theft in this case) is being committed, and let the thief ruin their life over it. 5. Any uniform that is distinct enough to be identifiable should only be worn by the person to whom it was issued. The uniform is corporate property, and is issued to their personnel under the contract that the uniform shall never be misrepresented or misused in any manner. So, yes, OP in that story was TMA (THE Massive Ahole)
Story 4 - Yeah great lesson Karen’s teaching her son. Steal from other kids and use your dad’s ‘military status’ when they try to get their things back. Some people should need a license to have kids.
@@kimmccarthy7747Unfortunately, after that phone call and with a CO gunning for him, he'll probably get shafted by being given a long-term assignment to the base closest to his mother's residence.
The military doesn’t play around with their uniforms. You CANNOT put on someone else’s uniform and wear it (even for giggles) for a selfie and think it’s ok! You ATAH!!
I looked it up because I was curious, and yes, apparently it's illegal to wear a military uniform without being in the military, or even something close enough to mistake it. So honestly, she could have really messed up his job
Both scenarios may be true, so don't wear a military uniform when you're not in the military, and don't mess with someone else's husband. She's never been to see him in his hometown or on the base? Yeah, he's married and probably has a couple of kids running around.
While that may well be true, arguably, *he's just as much the AH as she is* (probably more). By the sound of things, he didn't even _tell her why he was mad._ He just blew up at her. I don't care if you're worried about the ramifications to your job, that is *not an appropriate response* in that situation. He should have _recognized that not everyone knows this sort of thing_ and that she didn't do it deliberately, *explained to her what the problem was* and why what she did could cause serious trouble for him, and just asked her to take down all the photos and never do something like that again. That is how a _rational adult_ would react in that sort of situation. His reaction was excessive, stupid, childish, arrogant, and frankly *a huge red flag.* She's probably better off without a loser like him in her life anyway, frankly.
@@foogod4237 my thoughts exactly. He obviously never made her aware that this is something she shouldn't do. Also when u consider his over the top reaction to something she wasn't aware of along with the fact that she's never been invited to his hometown bc he's "too busy" makes it seem like there's more to this than just her wearing the uniform, but more about who'll see her in the uniform. Like maybe a wife or a girlfriend. Cause it's not common knowledge that someone else shouldn't be trying on ur uniform. I have tons of friends & family who served & still serve in all branches of the military & I had never heard this before reading this post & looking up the info. Of course I never wanted to try 1 of their uniforms on out of respect & wouldn't have done so even if I had wanted to without their express permission. Still tho it isn't something I've ever heard come up in conversations & I've heard & learned a lot of things about the military & this was news to me
@@foogod4237 That's like saying "he's also an AH for blowing up after seeing her wave his gun around like a toy in public and not telling her why he's mad." It's glaringly obvious that the only person who wears a military uniform is someone in the military, and doing otherwise can have serious consquences, not just with the miliitary, but under freaking INTERNATIONAL LAW. Yeah, wearing your spouse's uniform for a selfie as a "prank" is inexcusable. Edit: Oh... Heard the video to the end, and BF told OP why he's PO'd. He spelled out that her little stunt is seriously bad form and risked his career, but OP didn't want to believe it so she started yelling at him, refusing to even try to understand why he's angry. That's AH behavior no matter who or where you are.
Story 1 - OP’s response was absolutely hilarious and the perfect reply. I also love how OP’s manager didn’t allow Karen to spew out whatever lie she was gonna say and basically told her the same thing OP did before leaving. Bravo to both OP and Mary.
People say that being a military spouse is insufferable, but it won't be anywhere near as bad for the husband (who actively serving) will be, if their superior catches wind that their spouse is acting like an ass, among civilized society. And the higher the rank, the more it hurts when you get in trouble because of your wife
I wonder just how many military personnel have lost their positions all because of entitled family or friends who thought it was ok to use it as a cudgel. I can't imagine how difficult it is for these service men and women having worked so hard to get where they are, only to have it ripped away because _someone else_ thought they could use it vicariously via association.
Story 4 - Really? Pulling her husband's rank when he's an E-5? That's enough to lead a squad or maybe assist the platoon leader if the platoon sergeant is out sick. I mean it's not nothing, but it's not much either. There are hundreds of E-5s at a given base. The odds of him outranking a random service member are not as high as this lady thinks.
Not to mention that depending on rank alone isn't smart. Depending on the work and post an enlisted person can have more authority than a commissioned officer. A friend of mine works in military intelligence and despite being an E-8, there are O-4's that report to him because of his experience and expertise.
The one story where the Karen was bragging her husband was a 2nd Lieutenant? Really? That's absolutely the lowest commissioned rank. Being a butterbar is barely getting started.
I started dying from laughter after that. I was thinking she'd at least say CPT or MAJ. But she basically just bragged about a fuzzy with a degree. And then to be caught be the, I'm assuming, Post Commander of all people is even more hilarious.
😂 That's so funny... as I was listening I blurted out "butterbars?!" and my son looked at me and said WHAT? 😧 I said it's nothing... but the fact this woman bragged about her husband being the lowest ranking officer is great 😂
Really braging about being married to a LT, oh come on lady. The moment she said it hubby pretty much, 100% screwed garrantied. I would let it go if she said captain, major, or colonel
That last story 🙄. Doesn't she know? The military has no sense of humor! They're responsible for the conduct of friends and family! I would end it immediately!
Story #1: "Come back to us when your husband is at least Lieutenant rank" is the military equivalent of "Know your role and shut your mouth." Poor Karen. Well, all of the karens in the stories today were given the equivalent of "Know your role and shut your mouth."
Just as bad, arguing with Senior/Chief Master Seargent, or Senior/Chief Petty Officer. I have personally seen my Navy Seniorchief make an errant Lt go literally white. He learned. 😅
Major Belle was actually very delicate... if she didn't pay for Karen bill, Karen would actually have been arrest for "stealing" (leaving without paying) and would have been in a lot more trouble. Not sure it would has change anything for the husband... but still.
Any one that uses "do you know who I am/my husband, brother, father is" only shows how little respect they have for that person. If I was in a position of authority and found out that a friend or family member of mine tried or had been using my name or position to bully others or to get out of trouble, I'd use everything in my power to make sure they were punished to highest extent or loss whatever privilege they thought they had.
The absolute worst thing about military service.... Raging Dependapottomuses. I wonder how many spouse's careers they have wrecked? 🤨 In my ten years in the military, I saw many of them.
I was expecting the entitled mother to be extra mad because Jacob didn't come to dinner, I expected him to refuse. IF as some military people say he would have been forced to go.... That would just reinforce some issues I already have with the army... I do not think anyone should be held responsible for others actions when they had absolutely no knowledge or control.
On some level it's understandable. Group responsibility means that those who mess up will face pressure from their peers to behave, not just the superior officer. But I do kind of agree with the mother that it isn't fair that she and her family would have wasted money to see her son due to a screw-up he had nothing to do with, not that she went about it the right way. And it's also not fair that the son gets extra punished by both peers and superiors because of his mum, who he has no control over like he would a spouse.
The thing is the military is a team. You succeed as a team and you fail as a team. When one person F's up, everyone F's up. Sometimes when one person is holding everyone else back then trust me, it gets delt with by peers.
These are people that you're supposed to depend upon to save your life .... What happens to one affects the rest of them... this is the whole point.... apparently you don't understand that.
Also he probably didn't have a choice on going or not. Because the major that the mother contacted probably saw him off the gate and he can't refuse that. Whilst his buddies were watching him making their timeout delayed
Technically true. But in boot camp, NCOs are "company commanders". Boots rarely interact with actual officers and the drill sergeants hold a great deal of power and responsibility.
@merlinathrawes746 uh, actually when I went through basic *IF* anyone dared to suggest that an NCO was in anyway similar to being an officer or was the "commanding officer." They'd still be out on the parade grounds doing pushups.
@FirstIsa so very true. Which is why I think that O1 to O3 should have an NCO assigned to them, that they need to consult with before issuing orders. When I was inprocessing at Ft. Riley. Was talking with a soldier who had been in Deutschland. Back when there was a right und a wrong side of the border. They had a "butterbar" fresh out OCS, leading a road march. Und he was saying how everyone were saying, "LT, we're on the wrong side of the border." Und he was like, "No, we're not, keep going." They take their first break. The LT checks the map. Sure enough, they were on the wrong side of the border. Fortunately, they were able to get back on the right side of the border without it becoming an international incident. I can think of no other soldier than a "butterbar" who can get soldiers killed.
Military dependents are GUESTS of the military. As such they have no rank or authority and can be kicked off base at any time. Their spouses are responsible for their conduct and can even be demoted if the offense is severe enough.
Story #5 : you messed up. That could be seen as stolen valor; the military takes that VERY seriously. With the name tag, he could easily been found for discipline. Putting the uniform on was bad enough. Posting your photo online displays it to the world.
Final Story - OP is DEFINITELY THE Ahole! She completely disrespected him by wearing his uniform. I’m from a military family and even I know that you DO NOT mess around with a Soldier’s uniform, it doesn’t matter if you’re their GF/Wife!
On one hand I agree with you. But if the second commenter is correct, and dude has a wife back home and is cheating with this woman as a side piece, which by the sounds of it he absolutely does, then he's the ah and deserves whatever backlash he gets from that incident. I'm more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in this story simply because of your own point. "I'm from a military family and even I know.." She doesn't sound like she is from a military family or familiar with the rules at all. So how would she know? You know very specifically, because you were in a military family lol. I mean how many girlfriends wear their boyfriends clothes? It's pretty dang common in general. I'm betting she honestly didn't think anything of it. But if homeboy is cheating and hiding from his wife? Yeah I hope it does eff with his career lmao. Would serve him right.
I'll do both with you : agree and disagree. I don't know much about military stuff so I'll believe what people seems to say : DO NOT TOUTCH UNIFORM! So, in that way, I agree with you: OP is AH. But... of what we can understand, she is ignorant and her BF doesn't provide much of an explaination of why this is an issue. For that, I disagree : OP not the AH. She is just ignorant. The thing that kind of bug me, is the fact that BF doesn't provide reason to be an issue and the fact that OP doesn't mention to remove the pictures. Two things that can do a large difference between a cold sweat and a career changing incident!
In some countries, false valor is a criminal offense, and putting on that uniform, much less sharing photos of it could get her in big trouble, and the blowback, for him not taking care of it is somewhat large. Even without the spousal angle.
Recently, multiple Russian Military Leaders were identified by their wives when a group sent out a call asking for wives to pose for a calender...in their husbands' uniform jackets. Serious destruction of OPSEC that gave all sorts of intel to the Ukrainians.
The last story. She absolutely should not have worn his military uniform, as per protocol. But she should not be wearing ANY military uniform, because she is way to naive and clueless to EVER be in the military, since she obviously cannot see this guy HAS A WIFE, something I started laughing about as soon as she said she could never go to his hometown because he was always busy. That should have set off enough red lights to have been seen 10 miles away.
Jacob should have told the CO ..no SIR. I will not leave base to see my mother ..it’s against regulations. SIR …. that might save his ass from the CO’s perspective
Last story, OP Is TA, no question about it. And to everyone who says "it's because he has a wife" NOWHERE in the story does OP say that. It's a comment from a rando.Wearing someone else's military uniform is not a prank, or a joke, it's serious business, and the boyfriend did indeed tell her why he's so PO'd. She endangered his job, rank, and possibly even risked giving him a criminal record via a courts martial. That's all damn good reason to be angry. And posting the pic of her crime on facebook? Even if she took it down immediately, which I doubt. that's no guarantee that someone hasn't already copied it and shared it with their friends, who in turn shared it with their friends, and on down the line until it reaches BF's base, and oh hell is that going to go badly. If I were BF, that would be a relationship killer right there, and if it resulted in career damage, a lawsuit could well be in the cards. Maybe THAT will get OP to wake up to how serious her "prank" was...
As a former Army infantryman, I would have found it adorable if my wife/girlfriend put on my uniform and posted pictures of it. That soldier is a tool.
The story about the woman general who was the base commander: All members of the military are directly responsible for the behavior of their dependents, both on and off post. The Karen's husband being a 2nd Lieutenant is a joke. 2nd Lts. are among the lowest of the low when it comes to rank, so her thinking his rank meant something was beyond hilarious. He's the lowest rank among officers and even the enlisted personnel look down on them. Her husband was right to dump her, especially if he's planning to make the military a career.
Story 5. Look I get it. You thought it was harmless, but it wasn't and i'll explain why from a military kid's perspective. If you've ever heard stories of retired military folks having to be reintegrated into civilian life, there's a good reason. Those two lifestyles are very separate for a lot of reasons I do understand and many more I never will. But I do know that if you're a civilian then you can't interfere with military life and that goes down to even the uniform they wear. You can't intermingle civilian and military life or it can risk privacy, safety, effectiveness of operations, and more on both ends. It seems harmless, but you HAVE to make sure with your spouse, friend, even just someone on the street. If they're in the military then they'll probably know what is or isn't wrong. So just ask first. It's better for both parties.
Story 5: YATA; you should not have done what you did but yes, he was freaking out so badly bc he is married. Get out of that relationship because of that.
When my ex was going into the Navy, I was a very involved wife while he was waiting to go to boot. He did duty with the recruiters during the weeks and worked with the younger recruits to do form ups, count offs, march around the parking lot, that sort of thing. I usually just watched. But, the recruiters made SURE I understood the rules for the wives and how we were supposed to behave. I also talked to my mom, who was Navy back in Korea (along with my dad, they met at Pearl Harbor). She reinforced those rules so I took them seriously. My jaw was hanging open through ALL of these stories, these entitled women just amaze me. I'm certain their spouses, that mom and that boyfriend gave them the rules but they decided not to listen. And yes, it WILL affect their son, husband, boyfriend's military career. EVERYTHING will. And that last one...omg. you never touch the uniform. Maybe if you're ironing a shirt or something, but you never, ever put it on and certainly never take a picture in it. You're not entitled to wear it unless you raised your right hand, swore the oath, and did your time in boot.
Story 2, I winced when I heard, "I called his sergeant." Poor dude. Last story I find either explaination plausible. You don't wear someone else's uniform and rank identifiers. That said, affair? Maybe.
story 5 - everybody sucks, yes it was an ahole move to wear the uniform and post the picture as it could put the bf's career in jeopardy, however, its also possible she didnt know it would put his career in jeopardy and that it was that big of a deal, in which case her bf could have simply explained it to her calmly and asked her to take the picture down, the way she described his reaction, his reaction seems over the top, UNLESS, either 1 op did know it would jeopardize his career, or 2 op is the side chick, and the guy is actually married, which would also explain why he visits her but is always busy when she wants to visit him
Story 5: I think both can be true. Dude has a wife and was worried his CO's would find out about his side piece, AND it's disrespectful to wear a serviceman's uniform like that
I am a 27-year Army retiree. While serving in Germany, there was an incident similar to the one in the story of the woman attempting to use her husband's rank to jump to the front of the line in the commissary. The person in the line who confronted her was the base commander who was in civilian clothes. the upshot of this was that the woman was sent back to the States and her husband ended up serving the rest of his European tour living in the barracks alone.
As a born, raised and former military brat (not from the usa), it's very interesting to see how similar culture we have. Wearing the military spouse/parent rank is a big no-no. In my country, while cheating is not a criminal offense, it's a huge step back in the military spouse career specially if the military spouse is a male and he was the one who cheated, the new woman will be treated as the homewrecker she is (that happened to the brand new wife of one of the secretary of defense general in my country when I was still a military brat). Also, yes, your family's behavior can impact your career and life. It did happen that two teenagers got into a fight and both families ended up being kicked out of the residential zone for that reason.
Story 1: it's kinda depressing when women don't how cringey and lame it is to have that window sticker that reads "you will address me by my husband's rank" I get being a military spouse is difficult, not nearly as difficult as your husband who's actually in the military life will be if their superior catch wind of their spouse being an ass
For story two, Jacob could have easily talked to his Sargeant and refused attending dinner to follow through with the punishment, with the rest of his platoon. He could have asked his Sargeant to use his phone and given his mother a dressing down. That would have made the sergeant and his platoon respect him and he probably would have come off in a better light. His mistake was not having an entitled mother. His mistake was listening to her.
6:15 "not cut out for it"? A person without a clear direction in life and used to being always told what to do and constantly supervised is not cut out for the army?? Like that's the perfect candidate for the army, those are qualities the army would love in any new cadet.
More than once, my wife and I saw colonels’ wives who actually wore a pin which was a miniature of the colonel’s insignia of rank, an eagle. I was a very junior officer at the time, and I just looked at my wife and raised one eyebrow. She laughed and shook her head, said “Never!“ She was a gem, and never tried to ‘wear’ my rank.
4th; That's just plain Attempted Stealing, and her Husband could get into real trouble, because of her. When he finds out, he better read hear the Riot act!!😠👿👨🎤
My uncle/cousin (technically 3rd or 4th cousin but grew up with my grandparents after losing his mum when he was 4) was in the Navy. After coming back from war when he was still in his teen where their ship had been hit by several 1000lb bombs leading to the death of a couple of the crew though they stayed and continued to provide cover he had signed up to stay on station to allow those with children, wives and girlfriends to go ashore as he didn't think he would have anyone there to greet him as it isn't something that my grandparents would have really thought about but my parents drove the 3 or 4 hours to the base to see them home. They didn't make a fuss or complain they just waited before they were approached by an officer who asked who they were there to see before he sent someone to find out what was happening before they were invited for a tour of the ship while he was on station and were just happy to be able to see him for a few minutes when it was offered and that he was ok before another member of the crew offered to take over watch while he was given leave for a few hours where my parents took him for dinner. There is a time and place and it is not to act like a Karen to get your way especially in the military if he truly meant something to her then she should have either waited or come back when he did have leave.
Story 3: Yes, a good server makes a HUGE difference. I used to live close to a Denny's, and me and my wife went almost every Sunday just so we could be served by this wonderful guy named Javier, even though the food was typical for the establishment, he somehow made the meals more enjoyable for us. Once he left his job to take care of his mom in another city, we never went back.
Vet here. Last story. Anything she did in that uniform falls back on who the uniform belongs to. If anyone from base sees that he can get hit hard. Just a BAD situation. Not sure if there is a specific rule against it since I have been out for almost 20 years, but that doesn’t stop people on base from making his life a nightmare.
Military ID - spouses and dependents DO have military ID though. Sure it’s going to be a different card vs an active duty or retired cars, but it’s still a military-issued ID card.
As far as the last story goes, the guy is almost certainly cheating on his with the OP. That said, it is an absolute no no in the military to let someone else wear your uniform. You can get in a lot of trouble for letting someone do it, so even if the guy was cheating, he was 100% in the right to tell OP to take the photo down and delete it.
Story 2: I'm... Not sure how I feel about someone in boot camp being punished like this for actions completely outside of their control. It's one thing if it's a spouse like in story 3 where that relationship can easily be ended because you can choose who you associate with and marry, but when you got an entitled, narcissistic helicopter parent it just turns into some unfair "sins of the father" BS. Sure, I'm not gonna be able to do anything about this complaining in the comments, but damn if the military don't have some backwards logic on how to deal with people related to a soldier.
I can understand the military giving people hell when their spouse acts out of control. They are the one bringing that raging Karen onto base, they chose to be legally linked to that person. But why are they punished if it's their parent, especially over something like a phone call? So many times that person joined to ESCAPE an awful parent. So why are they the one held accountable? Are they really expecting a random 18-20 year old to control their psycho parent's behavior? Like cool, deal with an awful home life for 18 years and now that your psycho mom cussed out your higher ups you get to deal with hell for even more years to come. Scream at the awful parent and tell them to never call or show up again, don't take it out on their poor kid who had no choice in the matter.
Story 2 commentary: Fluff, there is a massive difference between a Sergeant and a commanding officer. One enforces the orders given while the other issues them. Helicopter Karen basically bitched to the lead supervisor meanwhile if she had bitched to a CO, depending what O rank for company, field, and general rank they are, could've been the general manager, district manager, or regional manager in that order approximately. Depending on whom ordered the stay on base order, which could've been just for the training command only or was basewide because someone was that jacked up, it is at least making it to the general manager level if it was just the training command locked down. What Jacob should've done was outright refuse the special treatment and demands of his mom, probably should've made up a story he joined to get away from her and the fact that she was nearby made him uncomfortable. She would've been told to go pound sand and kick rocks afterward had she tried further harassment.
As a veteran this is for ladies and men dating/engaged to/recently married to a sevice member: 1) your partner's rank is not your rank. 2) Unless combat boots or waffle shirt don't use or mess with your partners uniform stuff. 3) get involved with military spouse/partner support groups. We know it's not easy being a partner to a military person, and please respect your partner, they don't have it easy as well. Last story: OP, as a veteran, it is against US Federal laws, Geneva Conventions, and goes against so many treaties the USA has with other nations for a civilian to dress in a military uniform. There are exceptions, but they're for when 💩 goes to HE!! in a hand basket with a pretty bow on top, and there's rules to these scenarios as well. Also your boyfriend/boy-toy will get into HUGE amount of trouble. This is no joke level of he could get kicked out with a less than honorable discharge.
Story 3: oh yes! This is stuff that needs to be done to military spouses who pull that crap. Ruining their reputation would put a stop to that behavior quickly
I remember one time while I was in the National Guard (was active duty before that) when a Karen who was clearly new to the military thought she could cut the line in the post exchange because her husband was a specialist. When she tried to get in front of me my response was "I'm a specialist too as is my husband, but if you want to wear your husband's rank, my father-in-law is a lieutenant colonel"
The last story: as an Air Force veteran, OP is a complete moron. Wearing someone else's uniform when you're a civilian and posting pictures of it or going out in public constitutes impersonation as well as stolen valor. OP's boyfriend was right to flip out on her because it could have, at bare minimum, led to disciplinary action or at worst, led to loss of rank as well as pay. It's very unseemly for people to wear the uniforms of their spouses or what have you. Some might say his reaction was over the top, but I think OP under reacting is the bigger problem. She was very nonchalant and blase about it. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who completely minimizes or diminishes my feelings. Hopefully he leaves her soon.
Story 2: See, this is one of the things I HATE about the military. Group punishment for something 1 person did wrong is absolutely abusive shit and doesn't accomplish anything positive. No, it doesn't promote unit cohesion or whatever other bullshit excuse they like to make that isn't backed up by anything. And punishing the kid for his MOM'S behavior is even more shitty.
@@mrstephentgarrett Yeah, if by "police yourselves" you mean harass people for legitimate mistakes, making the lives of people with legitimate issues miserable rather than rooting out the source of the problem and find real solutions that don't involve abuse. The harassment ranges from verbal bullying to full on physical assault. And for those who are just troublemakers, it just teaches them to find ways to not get caught. There's a reason group punishment in a POW camp is literally considered a war crime.
My husband is retired Army, and I have relatives that are either retired or still in the service. I never do anything to embarrass any of them, and I don't flaunt my husband's rank. If we go out to eat, we will ask if there's a military discount, and if they don't and the wait staff apologized, we always say, "No need to apologize. We just like to ask, and if you have it, we'll use it, but if not that's okay too."
8:38 - "So? He'll be fine. He's a big boy and what can they do to him?" Ma'am, everybody there is big and strong. Your son is about to go through a HORRIFIC hazing. Nothing makes the unit turn on somebody more than somebody getting OUT of group punishments
I'd love to see the following exchange happen: Karen: My husband is a captain, and he can destroy your husband! Female officer: I'm not even married. I'm a general, and your husband works for me.
Its called wearing your spouses rank, and it highly frowned upon, it can even result in your spouse losing a rank and other punishments. If you think thats rare, surprisingly it isnt.
Trying to steal other people's children. Oof. My BIL was a victim of this. His father stole him from his mother and gave him to this lady, who then moved across the country & raised him, telling him she was his foster mother. Sadly, by the time he was an adult and went looking for his mom, she had died. The "foster mom" was a horrible lady & treated him so poorly, like a male Cinderella. It still breaks my heart over the damage that caused.
Americans who get so butthurt about anything involving the military, when was the last time you actually donated to veterans? Do you even support paying them a decent wage and pension?
@@ZaxTax-h8t Glad I hit a nerve. But no I don't donate to US Military veterans, because I'm not from the US. I donate to British military charities, although they shouldn't need to exist because our nation should look after them properly in the first place. They risk their lives for this country, they should be adequately paid for it, not just given some stupid token gestures.
"You're f**king a sailor, like the rest of us!" Mic drop to end all mic drops!
I can see why that admiral married her. That woman's a keeper.
"Ay, ay, ay-ay,
your sister's a mattress for sailors,
so sing me another verse
as bad as the other verse,
and waltz me around by my willie"
Some people use F-bombs like basic punctuation. They go off like weensy, annoying little squibs. Other people, such as the Admiral's Admirable Wife in Story 1 deploy F-bombs and they land like tactical nukes.
Many decades ago I was on an army base in my sailor uniform, standing in line and waiting patiently with a friend. Military in uniform get head of the line privileges, but I have honestly never seen anyone take advantage of this as most of us are in uniform. A Karen is screaming that her O-2 husband is important and she needs to cut in front of everyone. When they denied her, she just starts screaming more until this kind lady in front of us asked her who her husband was. LMFAO, apparently the Karen didn't realize the little old lady was married to the General and she was told that her husband would have a talk with Karen's husband about how wives should behave in public. She then tells us to go ahead of the line and check out. We instantly complied. I once saw a Karen park in a handicap access ramp to the NEX. She refused to move the car even after being asked politely by the base police. She then pulled rank because her husband was an E-5 at this and this command. LMFAO, the police called him on the phone and asked him if he could go to the NEX for a chat with them. They gave her a ticket and then banned both of their vehicles from base for her behavior. The husband could not apologize enough for his wife's behavior.
@@thieupham493 Aren't service spouses given a run-down of what they can and cannot get away with? Good gravy. The woman is a handicap to her husband's career.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Your husband’s military rank is NOT a fashion statement, Karen! Quit wearing it!
Psht! She was just having some fun, not claiming it was her uniform.
@@ThisDoebstill enough to get her husband hit with a non-judicial punishment. When you're in the military they can and often do hold you responsible for the actions of your spouse and children
@@FirstIsa we found the one who would do it!! 😂😂😂
That is what depdos do they wear their husband’s rank like it means something
Oh, I wasn’t just talking about the last story when she puts on her boyfriend’s uniform. I’m referring to every Karen who uses their partner’s military rank to justify mistreating other people!
As a young newlywed Airman, my supervisor gave me a piece of advice to pass on to my young bride. When standing in line and a dependapotomous tries to cut in line and gives the excuse of something like "But I'm Colonel Flakbait's wife". her response should be "That's very nice but the end of the line is that way".
Years ago right after my Daughter and Son-in-Law married and him still a low rank airman, I watched him go through the long line at Baltimore’s Marshall Airport section for servicemen and women. He was still a ways back when this older man cut in front of all of them to demand service. The staff complied, apparently use to the military abuse of power. His Highness finished and the rest were then taken care of. I asked my SIL what that was about and he just shrugged, said some AF Major pulled rank and demanded immediate attention. I later mentioned this to my business partner whose older brother was an active duty full Bird out of Seymour Johnson. My partner wanted to know who the Major PITA was because his brother always put the men first. My partner, a former Army Lieutenant (ROTC) said his brother taught him good senior officers look at these young men like sons and treat them well because in most cases they are still kids.
Oh my GOSH! SHE CALLED THE BASE! I'd be surprised if that kid talks to his mom when his service is done. Hell he might become a lifer just to avoid her!😢
I heard that my mom got put on a do not answer list and that she called so much that she talked to my company commander more than his own wife. It's embarrassing. I got a little crap for it, but it wasn't too bad in my case.
I'd be volunteering for duty overseas CONSTANTLY. And the one destination I wouldn't be going to on leave is home.
@@merlinathrawes746 At least on the far side of the Continent anyway...and DON'T tell her where you're Posted...
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I know someone who freaked out that her daughter went NC with her. She tried to word it like she was worried because her daughter was in the big bad scary Air Force, and didn't like it when I said, "Calm down. The Air Force won't let anything happen to her. And if something does happen, there's not much you can do to help anyway." She got pissy about it and asked me "What do you know about it?" and I revealed that I served for 8 years way back in the 90s and managed to call home twice a month when long distance charges were still a thing, so I know they have phones if something happens.
She shut up her whining after that because to continue would require her to admit that her daughter willingly went no contact.
@@recycledapathy7411 I was in the Navy back from 1974 till 1980. Besides normal, short Atlantic "coast" cruises the ship deployed 3 times to the Mediterranean. I made a few calls from Naples, Italy to Wayland, Michigan... COLLECT. I was newly married at the time. Not cheap.
Story 2 - Oh my… OP’s sister royally screwed her son in more ways than one. If I were the nephew I’d sever ties with his ‘mother’ and NEVER talk to her again.
Same. I don’t even want to know if he was treaded badly back on base. 😞
He'll be on working parties for awhile. 😮
And a beatdown by the rest of the guys. Thanks, Mom! 😡
Huh, I had a nephew who someone in his training platoon tried something similar. The mom was told to come to camp, and she got to see her son, and was even invited to join him on KP. …
There's no way he didn't get his ass kicked.
@ No doubt he did. Poor guy. I don’t blame him at all, I blame his bitch Karen mother.
5:03 "You're f*****g a sailor" I laughed out loud. Bravo for the admiral's wife.
Guarantee her husband is the kind of Flag Officer both the Commissioned and non Commissioned front line personnel respect.
"Want my seamen friends?"
Story 3 - Belle is my hero! She made good on her word without screaming or swearing at Karen (though no would blame her if she did) And Kyle was smart to divorce Karen and drop kick her butt to the curb.
Heck yeah!! A 2 star!! Holy Moley!!
By the time you reach the rank of Major General, you don't need to scream or swear to get your point across. But if it happens, s**t has truly gone and hit the fan.
Story 1: Cutting in line should be illegal. No exceptions.
Story 2: OP's sister should have had her parenthood privileges revoked years ago. Helicopter parents *always* deserve to lose contact with their offspring.
Story 3: Sorry, Karen, there's no such thing as a military *spouse* discount. "Military spouse" is not a real rank.
Story 4: It's *never okay* to steal! Certainly not from a child. (And he's not wrong. He did use his words.)
Story 5: Yes, OP is TA. Uniform or not, you should never wear someone else's clothes.
For wearing HIS UNIFORM it's a lot more serious than just wearing clothes without permission. The bf could literally be busted down in rank, lose pay, be given extra duty, restricted to the base when on duty and restricted to his barracks when off duty. And impersonating on duty military personnel isn't taken lightly either.
1. Solution to cutting in lines, ignore the line-cutter and proceed regularly with the line. Let them throw a temper-tantrum, which may eventually lead to (best case scenario) damage to goods and shop premises or (worst case scenario) assault, and then it will be quite easy to make that into a legal matter and sue the line-cutter into oblivion.
2. I think the mother would already be booted and ditched by the son for the dressing down she gave to his CO.
3. When its a (legal and reasonable) company policy, you better accept it or else just risk getting banned from the establishment.
4. OP should have just called in the MPs instead of risking her 3 month old kid. It is never worth the hassle confronting directly when a crime (like theft in this case) is being committed, and let the thief ruin their life over it.
5. Any uniform that is distinct enough to be identifiable should only be worn by the person to whom it was issued. The uniform is corporate property, and is issued to their personnel under the contract that the uniform shall never be misrepresented or misused in any manner. So, yes, OP in that story was TMA (THE Massive Ahole)
Story 4 - Yeah great lesson Karen’s teaching her son. Steal from other kids and use your dad’s ‘military status’ when they try to get their things back. Some people should need a license to have kids.
Like a marriage licence?
Man, nephew from story 2 is gonna have a rough career. Hopefully, he goes no contact with his mother
Or gets posted to Germany or someplace where she can't get at him.
@kimmccarthy7747 that would be to his benefit, which unfortunately from what I've heard hardly happens
@@kimmccarthy7747Unfortunately, after that phone call and with a CO gunning for him, he'll probably get shafted by being given a long-term assignment to the base closest to his mother's residence.
The military doesn’t play around with their uniforms. You CANNOT put on someone else’s uniform and wear it (even for giggles) for a selfie and think it’s ok! You ATAH!!
I looked it up because I was curious, and yes, apparently it's illegal to wear a military uniform without being in the military, or even something close enough to mistake it. So honestly, she could have really messed up his job
Both scenarios may be true, so don't wear a military uniform when you're not in the military, and don't mess with someone else's husband. She's never been to see him in his hometown or on the base? Yeah, he's married and probably has a couple of kids running around.
While that may well be true, arguably, *he's just as much the AH as she is* (probably more). By the sound of things, he didn't even _tell her why he was mad._ He just blew up at her. I don't care if you're worried about the ramifications to your job, that is *not an appropriate response* in that situation.
He should have _recognized that not everyone knows this sort of thing_ and that she didn't do it deliberately, *explained to her what the problem was* and why what she did could cause serious trouble for him, and just asked her to take down all the photos and never do something like that again. That is how a _rational adult_ would react in that sort of situation.
His reaction was excessive, stupid, childish, arrogant, and frankly *a huge red flag.* She's probably better off without a loser like him in her life anyway, frankly.
@@foogod4237 my thoughts exactly. He obviously never made her aware that this is something she shouldn't do. Also when u consider his over the top reaction to something she wasn't aware of along with the fact that she's never been invited to his hometown bc he's "too busy" makes it seem like there's more to this than just her wearing the uniform, but more about who'll see her in the uniform. Like maybe a wife or a girlfriend. Cause it's not common knowledge that someone else shouldn't be trying on ur uniform. I have tons of friends & family who served & still serve in all branches of the military & I had never heard this before reading this post & looking up the info. Of course I never wanted to try 1 of their uniforms on out of respect & wouldn't have done so even if I had wanted to without their express permission. Still tho it isn't something I've ever heard come up in conversations & I've heard & learned a lot of things about the military & this was news to me
@@foogod4237 That's like saying "he's also an AH for blowing up after seeing her wave his gun around like a toy in public and not telling her why he's mad."
It's glaringly obvious that the only person who wears a military uniform is someone in the military, and doing otherwise can have serious consquences, not just with the miliitary, but under freaking INTERNATIONAL LAW.
Yeah, wearing your spouse's uniform for a selfie as a "prank" is inexcusable.
Edit: Oh... Heard the video to the end, and BF told OP why he's PO'd. He spelled out that her little stunt is seriously bad form and risked his career, but OP didn't want to believe it so she started yelling at him, refusing to even try to understand why he's angry.
That's AH behavior no matter who or where you are.
Story 4 comments: Belle is the major general, not her husband.
Thank you. I was hoping someone else noticed that.
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Story 1 - OP’s response was absolutely hilarious and the perfect reply. I also love how OP’s manager didn’t allow Karen to spew out whatever lie she was gonna say and basically told her the same thing OP did before leaving. Bravo to both OP and Mary.
People say that being a military spouse is insufferable, but it won't be anywhere near as bad for the husband (who actively serving) will be, if their superior catches wind that their spouse is acting like an ass, among civilized society.
And the higher the rank, the more it hurts when you get in trouble because of your wife
I loved the random customer's comment.
I wonder just how many military personnel have lost their positions all because of entitled family or friends who thought it was ok to use it as a cudgel. I can't imagine how difficult it is for these service men and women having worked so hard to get where they are, only to have it ripped away because _someone else_ thought they could use it vicariously via association.
Story 4 - Really? Pulling her husband's rank when he's an E-5? That's enough to lead a squad or maybe assist the platoon leader if the platoon sergeant is out sick. I mean it's not nothing, but it's not much either. There are hundreds of E-5s at a given base. The odds of him outranking a random service member are not as high as this lady thinks.
Not to mention that depending on rank alone isn't smart. Depending on the work and post an enlisted person can have more authority than a commissioned officer. A friend of mine works in military intelligence and despite being an E-8, there are O-4's that report to him because of his experience and expertise.
The one story where the Karen was bragging her husband was a 2nd Lieutenant? Really? That's absolutely the lowest commissioned rank. Being a butterbar is barely getting started.
I started dying from laughter after that. I was thinking she'd at least say CPT or MAJ. But she basically just bragged about a fuzzy with a degree. And then to be caught be the, I'm assuming, Post Commander of all people is even more hilarious.
😂 That's so funny... as I was listening I blurted out "butterbars?!" and my son looked at me and said WHAT? 😧
I said it's nothing... but the fact this woman bragged about her husband being the lowest ranking officer is great 😂
Really braging about being married to a LT, oh come on lady. The moment she said it hubby pretty much, 100% screwed garrantied. I would let it go if she said captain, major, or colonel
😂 military wives thinking they have authority I always find that hilarious😂😂😂
That last story 🙄. Doesn't she know? The military has no sense of humor! They're responsible for the conduct of friends and family!
I would end it immediately!
Story #1: "Come back to us when your husband is at least Lieutenant rank" is the military equivalent of "Know your role and shut your mouth." Poor Karen.
Well, all of the karens in the stories today were given the equivalent of "Know your role and shut your mouth."
Story 3: Major warning, never argue with a Major General.
Just as bad, arguing with Senior/Chief Master Seargent, or Senior/Chief Petty Officer. I have personally seen my Navy Seniorchief make an errant Lt go literally white. He learned. 😅
Major Belle was actually very delicate... if she didn't pay for Karen bill, Karen would actually have been arrest for "stealing" (leaving without paying) and would have been in a lot more trouble. Not sure it would has change anything for the husband... but still.
Especially if he's the model of a modern Major General!
@@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber Furthermore has, information vegetable, animal, and mineral
@@diamondjim7560Even more so if they know the kings of England and quotes the fights historical from Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical.
Any one that uses "do you know who I am/my husband, brother, father is" only shows how little respect they have for that person. If I was in a position of authority and found out that a friend or family member of mine tried or had been using my name or position to bully others or to get out of trouble, I'd use everything in my power to make sure they were punished to highest extent or loss whatever privilege they thought they had.
If they used the "Do you know who" line, I would say "don't know,don't care" even if I knew who.
POOR JACOB THE MOTHER MESED UP BIG
TIME CALLING +FORCEFULLY GOT JACOB
RELEASED FOR DINNER
WITH THE FAMILY .
SO EVENTUALLY GOT IN TO MORE TROUBLE
The absolute worst thing about military service.... Raging Dependapottomuses. I wonder how many spouse's careers they have wrecked? 🤨
In my ten years in the military, I saw many of them.
I was expecting the entitled mother to be extra mad because Jacob didn't come to dinner, I expected him to refuse. IF as some military people say he would have been forced to go.... That would just reinforce some issues I already have with the army... I do not think anyone should be held responsible for others actions when they had absolutely no knowledge or control.
On some level it's understandable. Group responsibility means that those who mess up will face pressure from their peers to behave, not just the superior officer.
But I do kind of agree with the mother that it isn't fair that she and her family would have wasted money to see her son due to a screw-up he had nothing to do with, not that she went about it the right way. And it's also not fair that the son gets extra punished by both peers and superiors because of his mum, who he has no control over like he would a spouse.
The thing is the military is a team. You succeed as a team and you fail as a team. When one person F's up, everyone F's up. Sometimes when one person is holding everyone else back then trust me, it gets delt with by peers.
These are people that you're supposed to depend upon to save your life .... What happens to one affects the rest of them... this is the whole point.... apparently you don't understand that.
Also he probably didn't have a choice on going or not. Because the major that the mother contacted probably saw him off the gate and he can't refuse that. Whilst his buddies were watching him making their timeout delayed
The second story, the SGT is *NOT* the commanding officer. They're just an NCO.
Technically true. But in boot camp, NCOs are "company commanders". Boots rarely interact with actual officers and the drill sergeants hold a great deal of power and responsibility.
@merlinathrawes746 uh, actually when I went through basic *IF* anyone dared to suggest that an NCO was in anyway similar to being an officer or was the "commanding officer." They'd still be out on the parade grounds doing pushups.
A senior NCO can destroy a lieutenant's career. Experienced officers will defer to their Senior NCOs opinion.
@FirstIsa so very true. Which is why I think that O1 to O3 should have an NCO assigned to them, that they need to consult with before issuing orders.
When I was inprocessing at Ft. Riley. Was talking with a soldier who had been in Deutschland. Back when there was a right und a wrong side of the border.
They had a "butterbar" fresh out OCS, leading a road march. Und he was saying how everyone were saying, "LT, we're on the wrong side of the border." Und he was like, "No, we're not, keep going."
They take their first break. The LT checks the map. Sure enough, they were on the wrong side of the border.
Fortunately, they were able to get back on the right side of the border without it becoming an international incident.
I can think of no other soldier than a "butterbar" who can get soldiers killed.
Military dependents are GUESTS of the military. As such they have no rank or authority and can be kicked off base at any time. Their spouses are responsible for their conduct and can even be demoted if the offense is severe enough.
Story #5 : you messed up. That could be seen as stolen valor; the military takes that VERY seriously. With the name tag, he could easily been found for discipline.
Putting the uniform on was bad enough.
Posting your photo online displays it to the world.
Final Story - OP is DEFINITELY THE Ahole! She completely disrespected him by wearing his uniform. I’m from a military family and even I know that you DO NOT mess around with a Soldier’s uniform, it doesn’t matter if you’re their GF/Wife!
it's good to mess around with it F the army and military
On one hand I agree with you. But if the second commenter is correct, and dude has a wife back home and is cheating with this woman as a side piece, which by the sounds of it he absolutely does, then he's the ah and deserves whatever backlash he gets from that incident. I'm more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt in this story simply because of your own point. "I'm from a military family and even I know.." She doesn't sound like she is from a military family or familiar with the rules at all. So how would she know? You know very specifically, because you were in a military family lol. I mean how many girlfriends wear their boyfriends clothes? It's pretty dang common in general. I'm betting she honestly didn't think anything of it. But if homeboy is cheating and hiding from his wife? Yeah I hope it does eff with his career lmao. Would serve him right.
I'll do both with you : agree and disagree. I don't know much about military stuff so I'll believe what people seems to say : DO NOT TOUTCH UNIFORM! So, in that way, I agree with you: OP is AH. But... of what we can understand, she is ignorant and her BF doesn't provide much of an explaination of why this is an issue. For that, I disagree : OP not the AH. She is just ignorant.
The thing that kind of bug me, is the fact that BF doesn't provide reason to be an issue and the fact that OP doesn't mention to remove the pictures. Two things that can do a large difference between a cold sweat and a career changing incident!
In some countries, false valor is a criminal offense, and putting on that uniform, much less sharing photos of it could get her in big trouble, and the blowback, for him not taking care of it is somewhat large. Even without the spousal angle.
Recently, multiple Russian Military Leaders were identified by their wives when a group sent out a call asking for wives to pose for a calender...in their husbands' uniform jackets. Serious destruction of OPSEC that gave all sorts of intel to the Ukrainians.
Your just fnnk a sailor..get to the back of the line….. that’s the quote of the day !!!!
That comment at the end of the first story had me rolling! Savage but legendary! 😂❤
10:57 I'd argue that the mother's conduct should not reflect on the child
Just ask Private (for life) Mama's Boy if his mommy's behavior should reflect on his career.
The last story. She absolutely should not have worn his military uniform, as per protocol. But she should not be wearing ANY military uniform, because she is way to naive and clueless to EVER be in the military, since she obviously cannot see this guy HAS A WIFE, something I started laughing about as soon as she said she could never go to his hometown because he was always busy. That should have set off enough red lights to have been seen 10 miles away.
My first thought as well.
The Belle stories on Reddit are ALL gold. Each and every one. She must have been amazing to serve under.
my dearly departed dad was an army master sergeant, I just have the good sense to not pull rank
Jacob should have told the CO ..no SIR. I will not leave base to see my mother ..it’s against regulations. SIR …. that might save his ass from the CO’s perspective
the thing is at that moment the CO most likely has decided that the Kid will go to his mother. If only as punishment.
These lowly creatures seem to never grow out of the “my dad can beat up your dad” and that’s sadly pathetic
Last story, OP Is TA, no question about it. And to everyone who says "it's because he has a wife" NOWHERE in the story does OP say that. It's a comment from a rando.Wearing someone else's military uniform is not a prank, or a joke, it's serious business, and the boyfriend did indeed tell her why he's so PO'd. She endangered his job, rank, and possibly even risked giving him a criminal record via a courts martial.
That's all damn good reason to be angry. And posting the pic of her crime on facebook?
Even if she took it down immediately, which I doubt. that's no guarantee that someone hasn't already copied it and shared it with their friends, who in turn shared it with their friends, and on down the line until it reaches BF's base, and oh hell is that going to go badly.
If I were BF, that would be a relationship killer right there, and if it resulted in career damage, a lawsuit could well be in the cards. Maybe THAT will get OP to wake up to how serious her "prank" was...
As a former Army infantryman, I would have found it adorable if my wife/girlfriend put on my uniform and posted pictures of it. That soldier is a tool.
Story 3: I’ve heard several stories about “Belle”. They are ALL fabulous! She is someone I’d love to get to know.
To the last OP, look up the term "Stolen Valour" (or "Stolen Valor").
24:16 the woman was the general not her husband
The story about the woman general who was the base commander: All members of the military are directly responsible for the behavior of their dependents, both on and off post. The Karen's husband being a 2nd Lieutenant is a joke. 2nd Lts. are among the lowest of the low when it comes to rank, so her thinking his rank meant something was beyond hilarious. He's the lowest rank among officers and even the enlisted personnel look down on them. Her husband was right to dump her, especially if he's planning to make the military a career.
Story 5.
Look I get it. You thought it was harmless, but it wasn't and i'll explain why from a military kid's perspective. If you've ever heard stories of retired military folks having to be reintegrated into civilian life, there's a good reason. Those two lifestyles are very separate for a lot of reasons I do understand and many more I never will. But I do know that if you're a civilian then you can't interfere with military life and that goes down to even the uniform they wear. You can't intermingle civilian and military life or it can risk privacy, safety, effectiveness of operations, and more on both ends. It seems harmless, but you HAVE to make sure with your spouse, friend, even just someone on the street. If they're in the military then they'll probably know what is or isn't wrong. So just ask first. It's better for both parties.
Story 5: YATA; you should not have done what you did but yes, he was freaking out so badly bc he is married. Get out of that relationship because of that.
A Master Sergeant doesn't even outrank a Warrant Officer.
I think Karen needs to spend an afternoon learning what ranks mean in the military...
When my ex was going into the Navy, I was a very involved wife while he was waiting to go to boot. He did duty with the recruiters during the weeks and worked with the younger recruits to do form ups, count offs, march around the parking lot, that sort of thing. I usually just watched. But, the recruiters made SURE I understood the rules for the wives and how we were supposed to behave. I also talked to my mom, who was Navy back in Korea (along with my dad, they met at Pearl Harbor). She reinforced those rules so I took them seriously. My jaw was hanging open through ALL of these stories, these entitled women just amaze me. I'm certain their spouses, that mom and that boyfriend gave them the rules but they decided not to listen. And yes, it WILL affect their son, husband, boyfriend's military career. EVERYTHING will. And that last one...omg. you never touch the uniform. Maybe if you're ironing a shirt or something, but you never, ever put it on and certainly never take a picture in it. You're not entitled to wear it unless you raised your right hand, swore the oath, and did your time in boot.
Story 2, I winced when I heard, "I called his sergeant." Poor dude.
Last story I find either explaination plausible. You don't wear someone else's uniform and rank identifiers. That said, affair? Maybe.
story 5 - everybody sucks, yes it was an ahole move to wear the uniform and post the picture as it could put the bf's career in jeopardy, however, its also possible she didnt know it would put his career in jeopardy and that it was that big of a deal, in which case her bf could have simply explained it to her calmly and asked her to take the picture down, the way she described his reaction, his reaction seems over the top,
UNLESS, either
1 op did know it would jeopardize his career,
or 2 op is the side chick, and the guy is actually married, which would also explain why he visits her but is always busy when she wants to visit him
Story 5: I think both can be true. Dude has a wife and was worried his CO's would find out about his side piece, AND it's disrespectful to wear a serviceman's uniform like that
Whenever someone says "Am I the asshole" I always say "Yes you are"
Yeah.. its usually "Im sure you are... maybe not for this... but definitely for SOMETHING." 🤷♀️
I am a 27-year Army retiree. While serving in Germany, there was an incident similar to the one in the story of the woman attempting to use her husband's rank to jump to the front of the line in the commissary. The person in the line who confronted her was the base commander who was in civilian clothes. the upshot of this was that the woman was sent back to the States and her husband ended up serving the rest of his European tour living in the barracks alone.
As a born, raised and former military brat (not from the usa), it's very interesting to see how similar culture we have.
Wearing the military spouse/parent rank is a big no-no.
In my country, while cheating is not a criminal offense, it's a huge step back in the military spouse career specially if the military spouse is a male and he was the one who cheated, the new woman will be treated as the homewrecker she is (that happened to the brand new wife of one of the secretary of defense general in my country when I was still a military brat).
Also, yes, your family's behavior can impact your career and life. It did happen that two teenagers got into a fight and both families ended up being kicked out of the residential zone for that reason.
Story 1: it's kinda depressing when women don't how cringey and lame it is to have that window sticker that reads "you will address me by my husband's rank" I get being a military spouse is difficult, not nearly as difficult as your husband who's actually in the military life will be if their superior catch wind of their spouse being an ass
For story two, Jacob could have easily talked to his Sargeant and refused attending dinner to follow through with the punishment, with the rest of his platoon. He could have asked his Sargeant to use his phone and given his mother a dressing down. That would have made the sergeant and his platoon respect him and he probably would have come off in a better light. His mistake was not having an entitled mother. His mistake was listening to her.
6:15 "not cut out for it"? A person without a clear direction in life and used to being always told what to do and constantly supervised is not cut out for the army?? Like that's the perfect candidate for the army, those are qualities the army would love in any new cadet.
More than once, my wife and I saw colonels’ wives who actually wore a pin which was a miniature of the colonel’s insignia of rank, an eagle. I was a very junior officer at the time, and I just looked at my wife and raised one eyebrow. She laughed and shook her head, said “Never!“ She was a gem, and never tried to ‘wear’ my rank.
Isn't that kind of close to "stolen valor"? Trying to use your husband or wife's rank.
Yes and if she is caught by the military they will decrease her spouse's rank
That last dude who got so upset about the uniform is definitely married. He's always busy she can't visit him in his town?? Yeah, she's a side piece.
Story 2: That poor guy is never going to escape being the guy whose mommy called the base and got him smoked for it
Regarding "Belle": I guess she is the very picture of a modern Major-General!
4th; That's just plain Attempted Stealing, and her Husband could get into real trouble, because of her. When he finds out, he better read hear the Riot act!!😠👿👨🎤
My uncle/cousin (technically 3rd or 4th cousin but grew up with my grandparents after losing his mum when he was 4) was in the Navy.
After coming back from war when he was still in his teen where their ship had been hit by several 1000lb bombs leading to the death of a couple of the crew though they stayed and continued to provide cover he had signed up to stay on station to allow those with children, wives and girlfriends to go ashore as he didn't think he would have anyone there to greet him as it isn't something that my grandparents would have really thought about but my parents drove the 3 or 4 hours to the base to see them home.
They didn't make a fuss or complain they just waited before they were approached by an officer who asked who they were there to see before he sent someone to find out what was happening before they were invited for a tour of the ship while he was on station and were just happy to be able to see him for a few minutes when it was offered and that he was ok before another member of the crew offered to take over watch while he was given leave for a few hours where my parents took him for dinner.
There is a time and place and it is not to act like a Karen to get your way especially in the military if he truly meant something to her then she should have either waited or come back when he did have leave.
Story 3: Yes, a good server makes a HUGE difference. I used to live close to a Denny's, and me and my wife went almost every Sunday just so we could be served by this wonderful guy named Javier, even though the food was typical for the establishment, he somehow made the meals more enjoyable for us. Once he left his job to take care of his mom in another city, we never went back.
Perfect timing! A customer pulled up so I have something to listen to
if I was the the one who the POS mother called, I would have her meet me at the restaurant and there tell her off than and there and leave.
I hope Jaccob goes no contact with his parents.
Vet here. Last story. Anything she did in that uniform falls back on who the uniform belongs to. If anyone from base sees that he can get hit hard. Just a BAD situation. Not sure if there is a specific rule against it since I have been out for almost 20 years, but that doesn’t stop people on base from making his life a nightmare.
I was a Navy wife for 13 years. This story made me snort laugh 😂 "do you know who my husband is?!" So accurate
Military ID - spouses and dependents DO have military ID though.
Sure it’s going to be a different card vs an active duty or retired cars, but it’s still a military-issued ID card.
"My husband's a Sargeant, that means I'm above you!"
Oh really? What branch and what's his higher ups name? He'll be demoted real quick cause of you
Fourth story: Mommy, use your words, the good ones!
As far as the last story goes, the guy is almost certainly cheating on his with the OP.
That said, it is an absolute no no in the military to let someone else wear your uniform. You can get in a lot of trouble for letting someone do it, so even if the guy was cheating, he was 100% in the right to tell OP to take the photo down and delete it.
You know that he's cheating with her how exactly? That story shows no signs that he's cheating
Story 2: I'm... Not sure how I feel about someone in boot camp being punished like this for actions completely outside of their control. It's one thing if it's a spouse like in story 3 where that relationship can easily be ended because you can choose who you associate with and marry, but when you got an entitled, narcissistic helicopter parent it just turns into some unfair "sins of the father" BS.
Sure, I'm not gonna be able to do anything about this complaining in the comments, but damn if the military don't have some backwards logic on how to deal with people related to a soldier.
I can understand the military giving people hell when their spouse acts out of control. They are the one bringing that raging Karen onto base, they chose to be legally linked to that person. But why are they punished if it's their parent, especially over something like a phone call? So many times that person joined to ESCAPE an awful parent. So why are they the one held accountable? Are they really expecting a random 18-20 year old to control their psycho parent's behavior? Like cool, deal with an awful home life for 18 years and now that your psycho mom cussed out your higher ups you get to deal with hell for even more years to come. Scream at the awful parent and tell them to never call or show up again, don't take it out on their poor kid who had no choice in the matter.
Story 2 commentary: Fluff, there is a massive difference between a Sergeant and a commanding officer. One enforces the orders given while the other issues them. Helicopter Karen basically bitched to the lead supervisor meanwhile if she had bitched to a CO, depending what O rank for company, field, and general rank they are, could've been the general manager, district manager, or regional manager in that order approximately.
Depending on whom ordered the stay on base order, which could've been just for the training command only or was basewide because someone was that jacked up, it is at least making it to the general manager level if it was just the training command locked down. What Jacob should've done was outright refuse the special treatment and demands of his mom, probably should've made up a story he joined to get away from her and the fact that she was nearby made him uncomfortable. She would've been told to go pound sand and kick rocks afterward had she tried further harassment.
As a veteran this is for ladies and men dating/engaged to/recently married to a sevice member: 1) your partner's rank is not your rank. 2) Unless combat boots or waffle shirt don't use or mess with your partners uniform stuff. 3) get involved with military spouse/partner support groups. We know it's not easy being a partner to a military person, and please respect your partner, they don't have it easy as well.
Last story: OP, as a veteran, it is against US Federal laws, Geneva Conventions, and goes against so many treaties the USA has with other nations for a civilian to dress in a military uniform. There are exceptions, but they're for when 💩 goes to HE!! in a hand basket with a pretty bow on top, and there's rules to these scenarios as well. Also your boyfriend/boy-toy will get into HUGE amount of trouble. This is no joke level of he could get kicked out with a less than honorable discharge.
Story 3. Her husband was a butter bar? Even the E-4 Mafia has way more pull than a freaking butter bar.
Yep, the E4 mafia gets shit taken care of quickly. Sham shields unite! 😂
Story 3: oh yes! This is stuff that needs to be done to military spouses who pull that crap. Ruining their reputation would put a stop to that behavior quickly
18:19 Wearing her Husband's Rank. Yeah! She didn't go through BT. She didn't go through AT. He did. He EARNED his rank.
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I remember one time while I was in the National Guard (was active duty before that) when a Karen who was clearly new to the military thought she could cut the line in the post exchange because her husband was a specialist. When she tried to get in front of me my response was "I'm a specialist too as is my husband, but if you want to wear your husband's rank, my father-in-law is a lieutenant colonel"
These women got a little bit of PERCEIVED power and were so quick to power trip
I think this quote is pretty correct in these cases: power doesn't corrupt, it reveals.
The last story: as an Air Force veteran, OP is a complete moron. Wearing someone else's uniform when you're a civilian and posting pictures of it or going out in public constitutes impersonation as well as stolen valor. OP's boyfriend was right to flip out on her because it could have, at bare minimum, led to disciplinary action or at worst, led to loss of rank as well as pay. It's very unseemly for people to wear the uniforms of their spouses or what have you.
Some might say his reaction was over the top, but I think OP under reacting is the bigger problem. She was very nonchalant and blase about it. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who completely minimizes or diminishes my feelings. Hopefully he leaves her soon.
Love the Admiral's wife response.😂😂😂
I have a friend whose husband was just made an admiral. She's the nicest person ever, and would/could never be so awful.
Story 2: See, this is one of the things I HATE about the military. Group punishment for something 1 person did wrong is absolutely abusive shit and doesn't accomplish anything positive. No, it doesn't promote unit cohesion or whatever other bullshit excuse they like to make that isn't backed up by anything. And punishing the kid for his MOM'S behavior is even more shitty.
Were you in the military? I was and yes group punishment teaches you to work as a team and to police yourselves.
@@mrstephentgarrett Yeah, if by "police yourselves" you mean harass people for legitimate mistakes, making the lives of people with legitimate issues miserable rather than rooting out the source of the problem and find real solutions that don't involve abuse. The harassment ranges from verbal bullying to full on physical assault.
And for those who are just troublemakers, it just teaches them to find ways to not get caught. There's a reason group punishment in a POW camp is literally considered a war crime.
@foxxknight8847 wow someone has big feelings huh? If you have "problems" then maybe you shouldn't have signed up to begin with
@@mrstephentgarrett There it is. Treat people like shit for being human.
4:37 AW HELL NAH
Ooooh, a Belle story! I'd love to hear more of them.
ETA: Karen is lucky Belle's husband didn't step in. His name is Adam, and he's a cop!
Story 3: Belle handled that so professionally.
How evil do you have to be to attack children
My husband is retired Army, and I have relatives that are either retired or still in the service. I never do anything to embarrass any of them, and I don't flaunt my husband's rank. If we go out to eat, we will ask if there's a military discount, and if they don't and the wait staff apologized, we always say, "No need to apologize. We just like to ask, and if you have it, we'll use it, but if not that's okay too."
Combat vet here…that “mom” ruined his reputation to everyone he knows!!! Oh God NO!!!!!
Where is everyone else? DarkFluff is the best on youtube!
8:38 - "So? He'll be fine. He's a big boy and what can they do to him?"
Ma'am, everybody there is big and strong. Your son is about to go through a HORRIFIC hazing. Nothing makes the unit turn on somebody more than somebody getting OUT of group punishments
Normally, I'm laughing my ass off at Fluff's stories! But that one about the major-general...that one had me stunned into absolute silence! 😮
I'd love to see the following exchange happen:
Karen: My husband is a captain, and he can destroy your husband!
Female officer: I'm not even married. I'm a general, and your husband works for me.
Its called wearing your spouses rank, and it highly frowned upon, it can even result in your spouse losing a rank and other punishments. If you think thats rare, surprisingly it isnt.
the woman in the post about the restaurant was a general, not a general's wife
Trying to steal other people's children. Oof. My BIL was a victim of this. His father stole him from his mother and gave him to this lady, who then moved across the country & raised him, telling him she was his foster mother. Sadly, by the time he was an adult and went looking for his mom, she had died. The "foster mom" was a horrible lady & treated him so poorly, like a male Cinderella. It still breaks my heart over the damage that caused.
Having worked on a military base for 25 years our worst problem was dealing with officers' wives who wore their husbands' ranks.
24:25 Correction: In that story, the woman herself was a General, not her husband.
Americans who get so butthurt about anything involving the military, when was the last time you actually donated to veterans? Do you even support paying them a decent wage and pension?
Do you? Doubtful. Most genuine people don't project onto complete strangers.
@@ZaxTax-h8t Glad I hit a nerve. But no I don't donate to US Military veterans, because I'm not from the US. I donate to British military charities, although they shouldn't need to exist because our nation should look after them properly in the first place. They risk their lives for this country, they should be adequately paid for it, not just given some stupid token gestures.