Saw a video a long time ago of a guy hunting lionfish and giving them to giant grouper following him. Basically acted like a giant dog waiting for treats.
Jillian Macdonald they are venomous. They have no natural predators here in the Atlantic. They are deadly to the reef and the system. They are also super yummy, I’ve heard. (But it’s why they don’t run or freak out lol)
I was harvesting for both reasons. They are VERY good to eat and unfortunately there is no shortage of them. We don't know a ton about them but what we do know is they are bad and really the only thing that helps is when divers kill them. So why not get a bunch of fillets in the process!!
Can anything bad come from letting the local fish chow down on the ones you spear much more often? Maybe they'll pick up on the fact that young vulnerable lion fish are delicious.
+Mr00destruct0 I could see "kill and release' selecting for fish that can tolerate lionfish toxin. Maybe we can have a hand in our native fishes evolution by studying whether there are any adverse effects of K&R. At the very least it would let divers kill more fish then they can carry(only carry the big boys and leave the scrappy ones). I look forward to dusting off my amateur PADI license and spearing some of these nasty buggers.
Upon further research, it seems many places have banned K&R for the same reasons that we are not allowed to feed wild animals in state and national parks--because it makes them lazy and can lead to animal attacks. That said, can't wait to join in on the fun, Alex.
Lionfish are beautiful, it's a shame idiots released them... they're so destructive. Blah. Hate to see them get destroyed like this, but I applaud you for doing your part to protect our oceans.
Tigerpuffer I was told that an aquarium near the beach had a horrible storm and a large tank of foreign lion fish got out. you're not allowed to own any lion fish in some states. especially states near the ocean.
Doing a great job removing the destructive lionfish, ironically in their natural environment such as the Red sea the lionfish are an important part of marine life but you only have to look at the cane toad in Australia to see what harm an alien species can do.
This is a bad outdated practice, keep in mind that it has been shown that handing groupers/eels/sharks lionfish that were speared only teaches them that divers have food, which results in them getting greedy and biting hands.
Triggerfish might actually be a good way to solve the lionfish problem if they can get a taste for them. They are very good at disabling the thorny or spiny defenses of prey items such as urchins and spiny lobsters, so if they can get conditioned to view lionfish as prey their jaws could ship off the venomous barbs with the precision of a pair of clippers leaving the lionfish helpless.
There would be a market for them in the west. Out here we prices for fish and seafood are so high that no-one can afford them and many are avoiding canned tuna and salmon because the fear of possible radiation from Fukushima. Package the Lionfish up on ice, put them in refrigerated trucks to the markets of California and Nevada, with a decent price, and you'll get rich. They look like they're good eating if those spines don't pose too much of a hazard during handling.
Hey Alex thanks for doing this, I have a question and it would really be awesome if you could answer it. Did you see any triggerfish get punctured by the venomous spinea when they were feeding and if so what happened to that fish?
IM DEFINITELY GETTING MY P.A.D.I. LICENCE AND COMING OVER TO FLORIDA TO DO THIS!... only because their an invasive species and they can be eaten by humans and other fish species so nothing's going to waste :)
This was strangely entertaining. If i understand this correctly, Lionfish is a highly invasive species of fish that destroys the wildlife of the fish whereever they go ?.
Alex can i use the video for a publication? with your credits, is for a scientific publication, thanks i am Ma camen García director of national park in México
O.K. I just researched it…they are an invasive: Much like the Peacock Grouper aka Roi, Ta'ape and To'au's here in Hawaii. We actually hold invasive free dive competitions for invasives.
orangedac snapper have apparently been observed maneuvering the lionfish into a position that their spines don’t come into play, suggesting that the venom may only be effective if it is injected by the spines in the fins.
It's fucking sad that people don't understand why you shouldn't release pets into the wild. Now innocent lion fish have to get slaughtered by the dozens to protect our oceans. Good news though, predators like barracudas are figuring out how to eat them safely. So at least we're making progress
Should replace their love for shark fins with a love for lion fish and the problem would be solved without a year. And you’d save the sharks and the entire ocean ecosystem with it 🙌🏼 2 birds one stone
I know they invasive and need culling bad, so no issues with the kill and release and the local sea life will clean up the afterkill....but the ones you take, do you eat? Ive heard when cleaned and prepared, a very tasty fish, but a lot of work
They are an invasive species with powerful defensive venom. This means there are no natural predators able to take one down, so they are able to flourish and wreak havoc on other natural species. As a result, we as humans need to kill them, or hopefully train other species to want to hunt them
Good video. Perhaps you should have a short description of the lion fish problem in your introduction so that some of the less informed viewers won't make ill informed comments.
There are many reasons for the triangle shape, UFO's and chariots of the gods notwithstanding. Practicality in terms of ease in manufacturing them, stacking for transport and available surface area in a small shape for making an artificial reef. And lastly...They just look cool.
Alex Lopez could only be if it is injected by the fins? Other fish have been observed maneuvering these fish so they can be eaten without getting poked.
I hear the no natural predators thing, but what are their predators in Indonesia etc. natural Pacific habitat? smaller reef sharks? I've also heard they aren't sure why such low predation? Though I don't see the trips spending calories chasing injured ones around.
They are non native fish so they have no natural predators and they produce like crazy and destroy fish populations by eating eggs out of control. You are supposed to kill them even if you aren't going to eat it, but they are one of the best tasting fish I have ever had
worldcomedyproducts They can spawn every 4 days. A friend gave me a pile of them and I have been working to get people to eat them. If we don't do something they will take over. They are very tasty too. No blood line to deal with either.
The only problem is that when you partially kill lionfish and feed them to other fish, those other fish dont think to go after lionfish normally, they'll always wait for you to touch it with the spear first. This exact problem is occurring here in the Cayman Islands with moray eels and lemon/reef sharks. Even worse, sometimes the moray eels will attack the diver directly now in the hopes that you drop your haul so they can go at that.
Thomas, You are correct. But, I look at it like this; this is a private spot with very little diving pressure, let alone lionfish harvesting. My containment unit was full and I could either end the dive and not kill any more lionfish or I could kill them. I chose the latter and it just so happened that the triggerfish and snapper wanted a taste. This video was from last year and I have not been back to this site since. So if I had not killed those fish then they would likely still be there. I do see your concern though. There have been a number of negative interactions with eels and sharks that have become accustomed to being fed.
Moray eels have no emotions, they do not hope. They feed by smell and see poorly. They do not attack divers in the hope of their dropping their catch. Giving them human motives and emotions is just silly.
noticeable lack of interest after a few of those fish got spiked. no chance they will ever prey on a live one -- people are the only ones who are going to eat those bastards
Damn.. we should start doing that with crown of thrones starfish. (Idk if that's the name I forgot) since they mess up reefs to where they can't recover or leave some live coral left to regrow only to get mowed over again by the stars
They are venomous not poisonous. Think bee, scorpion, spider and not we've been friends for a long time. Will you suck the poison out so I don't die.......
+ron hanforth Yes, the other fish are certainly susceptible to the venom. Whether the effects are extreme enough to keep them from eating lionfish is a different question. In this case the snapper and triggerfish only recognize the fish as food due to it being wounded.
+haze 4293 Fish would only get "poisoned" (correct word here would be ENVENOMATED) if they're injected with venom by the Lionfish's barbs. The Triggers and Snappers would probably never mess with a live Lionfish because when threatened, they get into a defensive position by facing their venemous barbs towards the attacker. As you noticed in the video, the trigger fish quickly took advantage of the fact that the Lionfish could no longer defend itself. But to answer your question, the Lionfish meat would not be toxic because they're not poisonous. But I imagine it would not be good if they got too close to the venom sacks at the base of the spines and accidentally nipped on those or accidentally poked themselves with the spines in the feeding frenzy. I don't think the venom immediately stops working after the Lionfish has been dead a couple of seconds.
Indeed they are. The lionfish will even point the spines towards another fish that becomes TOO interested. But the thing is, it has to be alive to do that. If its dead or dying, anything goes.
@@tomlathrop4094 I've been binge watching these videos. Excellent observation! I did notice that it swallowed it head first. Pushing the spines alongside the body. Much like how you'd pet a porcupine, front to back. Just not the other way LOL. Where it gets fuzzy is that the grouper isn't monitored afterward and the venom remaining in the venom sacks. Will the remaining venom make it sick? There are other videos showing divers feeding the lionfish to other fish but don't show what was left over. Did they selectively not eat the venom sacks? It'd make for a very interesting study. If I lived on that side of the country, I think I'd be dusting off my old dive card and film the after effects.
I imagine that millions of years of evolution has programmed them to think that something as flashy and sedentary as these guys are, they must be dangerous. Or have been stung and learned to avoid them. Lionfish will defend themselves by turning their spines towards an attacker, so if its not doing that IE: dead or dying, FREE meal. The venom on the other hand is complicated. There's a difference between being injected vs being eaten. Does stomach acid inactivate the venom, Or did the fish selectively not eat the venom sacks? The video doesn't show what was left over when the fish were done eating.
isnt it cruel to injure the fish and then put him in your tank where he has to stay and slowly die with a lot of pain? or does the tank kill them somehow once they are in?
the tube is to keep the spines from inuring the divers as they carry them around. the fish they bring up are used for kill counts, and often processed to sell to local restaurants as there's a bit of a demand for the meat now.
Training local fish to eat them seem like the only logical way to fix the problem
Does China know about this yet? :-) If so, then "problem solved." They'll fish and eat them to extinction... anywhere in the world.
@@yetrotagabundok3756 just have to tell them they are a delicacy here in the states
it already went backwards this way, because sharks and other fish where going and attacking divers when they didnt feed them with lionfish
@@Azubjourni awwww sad to hear that now better ask Chinese to attack and make a soup both of them shark and lionfish
Saw a video a long time ago of a guy hunting lionfish and giving them to giant grouper following him. Basically acted like a giant dog waiting for treats.
“Runs out of space”
*PROCEEDS* *TO* *YEET* *FISH* *INTO* *OBLIVION*
Trigger and snapper : Delicious gourmet
their poison spines makes them so complacent lol, I seen turtles dodge better than that
Jillian Macdonald they are venomous. They have no natural predators here in the Atlantic. They are deadly to the reef and the system. They are also super yummy, I’ve heard. (But it’s why they don’t run or freak out lol)
Easy profit...
@@CreativeCreatorCreates taste like chicken of the Seas? LOL
@@rgruenhaus LOL
I was harvesting for both reasons. They are VERY good to eat and unfortunately there is no shortage of them. We don't know a ton about them but what we do know is they are bad and really the only thing that helps is when divers kill them. So why not get a bunch of fillets in the process!!
Can anything bad come from letting the local fish chow down on the ones you spear much more often? Maybe they'll pick up on the fact that young vulnerable lion fish are delicious.
+Mr00destruct0 I could see "kill and release' selecting for fish that can tolerate lionfish toxin. Maybe we can have a hand in our native fishes evolution by studying whether there are any adverse effects of K&R.
At the very least it would let divers kill more fish then they can carry(only carry the big boys and leave the scrappy ones).
I look forward to dusting off my amateur PADI license and spearing some of these nasty buggers.
+PhilaPeter Its addicting!
Upon further research, it seems many places have banned K&R for the same reasons that we are not allowed to feed wild animals in state and national parks--because it makes them lazy and can lead to animal attacks.
That said, can't wait to join in on the fun, Alex.
+PhilaPeter do you have a biology degree to back up your oppinion? Maybe it's teaching the fish populations to kill the invasive species.
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boringgrass ...haha..thats funny!! 👍👍
And vegans......
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Lol
It will be the vegans.
The same people who support native animal extinction.
I like how you stopped bagging them and started feeding them to the local wildlife.
Lionfish are beautiful, it's a shame idiots released them... they're so destructive. Blah. Hate to see them get destroyed like this, but I applaud you for doing your part to protect our oceans.
Tigerpuffer I was told that an aquarium near the beach had a horrible storm and a large tank of foreign lion fish got out. you're not allowed to own any lion fish in some states. especially states near the ocean.
Worst is it isn't really their fault, they are just doing what they do, but nothing in this environment can handle them
he said in SOME states near the ocean... Not all.
Garlic.
they are pest now invasive species destroying the ecosystem
Doing a great job removing the destructive lionfish, ironically in their natural environment such as the Red sea the lionfish are an important part of marine life but you only have to look at the cane toad in Australia to see what harm an alien species can do.
This is a bad outdated practice, keep in mind that it has been shown that handing groupers/eels/sharks lionfish that were speared only teaches them that divers have food, which results in them getting greedy and biting hands.
@@MisterEcks I don't think groupers, eels or the fish in this video are going go be attacking divers
That's good to see. The sooner the lionfish becomes a menu item for other fish, the better.
As long as Pensacola restaurants aren't saying it's grouper like they did with cheap fish!
Triggerfish are not known to give a fuck.
lol
The state of Florida should be paying you a lot every trip, or at the least a dollar a lionfish to cover gas costs etc.
Remember most people who do this also do it because its fun so its not like they're not getting anything from this. Some people eat them too.
I think they can sell them to restaurants for 5 bucks a pound. So that probably pays for fuel and everything.
They already make a mint by selling them to restaurants.
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At least people are starting to eat lionfish. I've heard it's good.
Triggerfish might actually be a good way to solve the lionfish problem if they can get a taste for them. They are very good at disabling the thorny or spiny defenses of prey items such as urchins and spiny lobsters, so if they can get conditioned to view lionfish as prey their jaws could ship off the venomous barbs with the precision of a pair of clippers leaving the lionfish helpless.
There would be a market for them in the west. Out here we prices for fish and seafood are so high that no-one can afford them and many are avoiding canned tuna and salmon because the fear of possible radiation from Fukushima. Package the Lionfish up on ice, put them in refrigerated trucks to the markets of California and Nevada, with a decent price, and you'll get rich. They look like they're good eating if those spines don't pose too much of a hazard during handling.
Thank you for doing the great work to help clear out these lionfish...
thanks to all divers for your great job. those lion and scorpion fish should be cleaned or we have to find their natural killers quick.
This is also a great option it gives some of the life and energy the lion fish takes from the reef and gives it back pretty cool
Hey Alex thanks for doing this, I have a question and it would really be awesome if you could answer it. Did you see any triggerfish get punctured by the venomous spinea when they were feeding and if so what happened to that fish?
the spikes dont harm the fish since they cold blooded so the poison isnt as affective
That’s the best things you did capture and teaching the local fish to hunt them 👍
IM DEFINITELY GETTING MY P.A.D.I. LICENCE AND COMING OVER TO FLORIDA TO DO THIS!... only because their an invasive species and they can be eaten by humans and other fish species so nothing's going to waste :)
You don't need a licence to hunt lion fish in Florida!
This was strangely entertaining. If i understand this correctly, Lionfish is a highly invasive species of fish that destroys the wildlife of the fish whereever they go ?.
Yup your right.
So that's why divers are killing them.
how does one end up doing this professionally and for a living? I'd love a job like this.
The Triggerfish triggered the frenzy and the Snapper snapped into action and snapped up the remains
Get out
Rennie Ash
That’s a lot of snapping.
I’m calling the police
@@dreammaker9642 Freeman Lee snapped, and Dream Maker is triggered ;-)
@@RennieAsh 😂😂😂😂
Alex can i use the video for a publication? with your credits, is for a scientific publication, thanks i am Ma camen García director of national park in México
So far, I've rarely seen a wild lionfish being successfully hunted by other sea creatures. Usually, it's the humans that FEED them the lionfish.
They weren't hunting them he fed them to them
That’s what he’s saying…
If I were to drive over from Oregon, would a 22 foot aluminum deep hull fishing boat get to the good artificial reefs you guys are diving?
O.K. I just researched it…they are an invasive: Much like the Peacock Grouper aka Roi, Ta'ape and To'au's here in Hawaii. We actually hold invasive free dive competitions for invasives.
thank you guys for helping save our local fisheries
Do these snappers not get stung by the lionfish spikes?
How can they just be munching away without any effect?
orangedac snapper have apparently been observed maneuvering the lionfish into a position that their spines don’t come into play, suggesting that the venom may only be effective if it is injected by the spines in the fins.
It's fucking sad that people don't understand why you shouldn't release pets into the wild. Now innocent lion fish have to get slaughtered by the dozens to protect our oceans. Good news though, predators like barracudas are figuring out how to eat them safely. So at least we're making progress
after 4 years, is the lionfish population can be removed/reduced now ?
Any update on this? Did the local fishes learn to hunt the invasive lion fish?
Divers 1..... Invasive Species 0
kibintin jawiliza and trigger 1
more like: super invasive species 1:0 invasive species
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Anyone know what those "pyramids" are/ for?
The triggerfish were getting high from the poisoned spikes
How much per pound or Kilogram in Japan is lion fish going for .....?
Should replace their love for shark fins with a love for lion fish and the problem would be solved without a year. And you’d save the sharks and the entire ocean ecosystem with it 🙌🏼 2 birds one stone
Cleanin our beautiful Florida waters, hats off to you sir. Great vid
Why were there so many of them on that small stone thing?
Just a question, will the toxin in the lionfish spines be passed on to the meat of the fish eating them like mercury is?
nope. the venom only works if injected via the dorsal spines. It's painful, but not fatal to most things.
Thanks for the info Thomas but I still think I'll pass on the lionfish sushi.
your loss. I've tried it when I went to Cozumel. it's good. nothing spectacular, but better than most white-fleshed fishes.
Clicked for lion fish stayed for the song
Hello ! Can someone tell me what's the music's title, please ?
Aychiro Uchiwa u serious? it's the chili peppers
jehkjshrfk I am serious and you didn't give me any titles, just a crew name, it doesn't help.
I'm sure you'll figure it out
jehkjshrfk Either way, thank's for the hint.
Why did you keep some? What can you use them for?
Local restaurants are making a killing with 'em fishies
Being from pensacola, florida, I thank you
I know they invasive and need culling bad, so no issues with the kill and release and the local sea life will clean up the afterkill....but the ones you take, do you eat? Ive heard when cleaned and prepared, a very tasty fish, but a lot of work
what are the point of those pyramids?
I’m curious what is that pyramid they’re living on?
artificial reef structure many placed privately and by the state on sandy bottoms
Good job! Thanks for saving our reefs!
Where is this filmed
Why are they attracted to the triangular pyramid (tetrahedron) bases?
It's cover. One less direction to look for things trying to eat you.
Thank you for your service....
nice video, cant believe how clear water is up there
Great work guys! Lion Fish are killing our majestic reefs as an invasive species. Wish you could get more!
Why do you keep the dead ones in the container anyways? I would assume leaving all of them to be picked off like this would be better?
in case they are female and have eggs?
most of the time it's so they can be sold to restaurants
does it affect the fish eaten them ??????
What is this song, it sounds familiar
1. Can someone tell me why lionfish aren't good?
2. Any other song recommendations from the band.
Thx. 💙💙💙
They are an invasive species with powerful defensive venom. This means there are no natural predators able to take one down, so they are able to flourish and wreak havoc on other natural species.
As a result, we as humans need to kill them, or hopefully train other species to want to hunt them
Hello there
1. They are invasive to some places like florida.
2. Idk sorry.
wats d name of d song?
Terrible noise.
Would much perfer to hear the natural ocean sounds.
But it's not My video, so...mute. ...
just a question?, why are these fish so destructive, we have them here in Australia and they do not seem to be a problem
you have other fish things that eat them, we dont
Good video. Perhaps you should have a short description of the lion fish problem in your introduction so that some of the less informed viewers won't make ill informed comments.
What song is this
why the snappers didn't eat/ hunt lionfish when its alive?
The venomous spines are easier to avoid when its dead, I presume.
Do the smaller fish suffer from the venom later on ???
The Lionfish so fearless it just stay still when being approached.
name of song?
fantastic job! Keep up the good work fellas
Didn't seem like you fit 50 into that small tube thing. More like 3-4 or maybe 5.
Great on you guys, keep up the great work.
Thank you for your service sir
What's with the pyramids?
There are many reasons for the triangle shape, UFO's and chariots of the gods notwithstanding. Practicality in terms of ease in manufacturing them, stacking for transport and available surface area in a small shape for making an artificial reef. And lastly...They just look cool.
won't the fish be aching in pain from its toxins since it the spike things weren't removed?
Alex Lopez could only be if it is injected by the fins? Other fish have been observed maneuvering these fish so they can be eaten without getting poked.
so many dislikes.. those people are dumb and have NO idea how bad these fish are... Thank you for doing this job!
Why don't you sell the to aquarium stores..I seen them go up to 150 dollars..?
Very few stores would actually buy one given it's a venomous animal. I think most states have laws against selling venomous creatures, but idk
Thanks for your efforts
GPS locations should be posted so others can help in the fight as well. Please post
Invasive species also lurk in the comments section complaining about this awesome video.
I hear the no natural predators thing, but what are their predators in Indonesia etc. natural Pacific habitat? smaller reef sharks? I've also heard they aren't sure why such low predation? Though I don't see the trips spending calories chasing injured ones around.
They are mainly being prayed on by frogfish
The frenzy was like 3 days before Christmas in a supermarket.
must say it is about time all of these divers gave a few back to the local resident fish and lobsters etc. , well done .
O.K. I need some education here: is the Lion fish a delicacy?…are you controlling numbers or harvesting for food?
Both, sir.
They are non native fish so they have no natural predators and they produce like crazy and destroy fish populations by eating eggs out of control. You are supposed to kill them even if you aren't going to eat it, but they are one of the best tasting fish I have ever had
worldcomedyproducts They can spawn every 4 days. A friend gave me a pile of them and I have been working to get people to eat them. If we don't do something they will take over. They are very tasty too. No blood line to deal with either.
The only problem is that when you partially kill lionfish and feed them to other fish, those other fish dont think to go after lionfish normally, they'll always wait for you to touch it with the spear first. This exact problem is occurring here in the Cayman Islands with moray eels and lemon/reef sharks. Even worse, sometimes the moray eels will attack the diver directly now in the hopes that you drop your haul so they can go at that.
Thomas, You are correct.
But, I look at it like this; this is a private spot with very little diving pressure, let alone lionfish harvesting. My containment unit was full and I could either end the dive and not kill any more lionfish or I could kill them. I chose the latter and it just so happened that the triggerfish and snapper wanted a taste. This video was from last year and I have not been back to this site since. So if I had not killed those fish then they would likely still be there.
I do see your concern though. There have been a number of negative interactions with eels and sharks that have become accustomed to being fed.
Moray eels have no emotions, they do not hope. They feed by smell and see poorly. They do not attack divers in the hope of their dropping their catch. Giving them human motives and emotions is just silly.
wondering if you can sell them to sushi bar?
noticeable lack of interest after a few of those fish got spiked. no chance they will ever prey on a live one -- people are the only ones who are going to eat those bastards
I hate the music. Yes I know that I can turn it off. What does it add to the video?
i would call animal abuse, but lionfish are destructive assholes.
Damn.. we should start doing that with crown of thrones starfish. (Idk if that's the name I forgot) since they mess up reefs to where they can't recover or leave some live coral left to regrow only to get mowed over again by the stars
i wonder how many of those fish got stung trying to eat them though. At their size a sting might even kill them.
They are venomous not poisonous. Think bee, scorpion, spider and not we've been friends for a long time. Will you suck the poison out so I don't die.......
They are not good for fish to eat right?
would feeding these lionfish to them other fish be toxic for those fish?
+haze 4293 lionfish are not toxic. Their fin spines are venomous
+Ilustre Canalla with the fins being a part of the lionfish, he has a legit question
+ron hanforth Yes, the other fish are certainly susceptible to the venom. Whether the effects are extreme enough to keep them from eating lionfish is a different question. In this case the snapper and triggerfish only recognize the fish as food due to it being wounded.
+haze 4293 Fish would only get "poisoned" (correct word here would be ENVENOMATED) if they're injected with venom by the Lionfish's barbs. The Triggers and Snappers would probably never mess with a live Lionfish because when threatened, they get into a defensive position by facing their venemous barbs towards the attacker. As you noticed in the video, the trigger fish quickly took advantage of the fact that the Lionfish could no longer defend itself. But to answer your question, the Lionfish meat would not be toxic because they're not poisonous. But I imagine it would not be good if they got too close to the venom sacks at the base of the spines and accidentally nipped on those or accidentally poked themselves with the spines in the feeding frenzy. I don't think the venom immediately stops working after the Lionfish has been dead a couple of seconds.
I thought the spines were supposed to protect them from being eaten?
Indeed they are. The lionfish will even point the spines towards another fish that becomes TOO interested. But the thing is, it has to be alive to do that. If its dead or dying, anything goes.
@@ericf7063 thanks Eric but how does the grouper swallow it whole and not get hurt?
@@tomlathrop4094
I've been binge watching these videos.
Excellent observation! I did notice that it swallowed it head first. Pushing the spines alongside the body. Much like how you'd pet a porcupine, front to back. Just not the other way LOL. Where it gets fuzzy is that the grouper isn't monitored afterward and the venom remaining in the venom sacks. Will the remaining venom make it sick? There are other videos showing divers feeding the lionfish to other fish but don't show what was left over. Did they selectively not eat the venom sacks? It'd make for a very interesting study. If I lived on that side of the country, I think I'd be dusting off my old dive card and film the after effects.
I wonder why the fish only eat them after they’re dead. I’m assuming they’re still venomous right after they’ve been killed
I imagine that millions of years of evolution has programmed them to think that something as flashy and sedentary as these guys are, they must be dangerous. Or have been stung and learned to avoid them. Lionfish will defend themselves by turning their spines towards an attacker, so if its not doing that IE: dead or dying, FREE meal.
The venom on the other hand is complicated. There's a difference between being injected vs being eaten. Does stomach acid inactivate the venom, Or did the fish selectively not eat the venom sacks? The video doesn't show what was left over when the fish were done eating.
@@ericf7063 There is a difference between venom and poison. Lionfish are venomous but not poisonous so they are safe to eat
isnt it cruel to injure the fish and then put him in your tank where he has to stay and slowly die with a lot of pain? or does the tank kill them somehow once they are in?
the tube is to keep the spines from inuring the divers as they carry them around.
the fish they bring up are used for kill counts, and often processed to sell to local restaurants as there's a bit of a demand for the meat now.
When it comes to invasive species like the lion fish, the more massacres the better.
Excellent kill and release work!
Better to injure them and let the native fish develop an appetite for them?
So I had a question: I'm currently looking for a good place to release my three pet Lionfish, as I need to downsize my aquarium. Any pointers?
BIG PUMA Sell them or euthanize them. It's illegal to release any pet into the wild.
Damn, already released them just outside where I live in Tampa
How deep were you.
Brilliant work!!
Keep up the good work this invasive fish is taken over
how deep?
110ft
+Alex Fogg wow, great vis for 110!
hope y'all are still fighting the good fight almost 5 years later!