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@@succulentravioli954 I'm in the same boat. Nearest schools are 3 hours away from where I live, so I can only visit them at most once a month. So, most of HEMA that I do is reading manuscripts, form practice, and when my other HEMA buddy and I hang, we usually do drills together, and a bit of sparring.
Further evidence that one day, when Brian tragically parishes while filming, it will not be an accident. Murphy will have just finally succeeded in his dastardly plot...
By the time Brian and Jason have concluded the channel, Jason will be one of the most dangerous people in the world and Brian will have been whittled down to a mere stump that occasionally exclaimes "Wow...Ok!"
Although the lessons here explicitly say not to separate the sword hand from the buckler, there are other Medieval/Renaissance styles that show them used separately a lot. Paulus Kal and Marozzo for example.
I saw a tweet to this effect the other day! Don't know if you're the same person, but I really love seeing stuff like this. twitter.com/Darkspeeds/status/941726220844011520
that moment when the product that's placed in my content-provider-of-choice's video is both something I want, and a meaningful discount from shopping myself.
Gotta give Brian big congrats for surviving a sword to the eyeball and fighting on when there are some guards who quit adventuring after only a mere arrow to the knee. And one to Murphy for finally realizing his life goal of stabbing Brian in the eyeball with a sword. *High five Rogues*
It's so funny to watch these when you know German. Because Fechtbuch, halpschild (halb Schild) or Messer, Oberwacht from the long sword episode are just German words. They pronounce them so differently.
I did the short sword and buckler for a short time. the most interesting drills were always against someone with a long sword, totally different experience!
so i dont want to be a downer or anything and i personally love nord vpn service. and its true that the cable company cant see exactly what your doing with a vpn on, but they do see the vpn. they can literally just say your not allowed to use said vpn at all and force you to stop using it. which is garbage.
I love this channel because it's just so open... Here's a video about making steaks, here's some cocktails, here's some freaking sword fighting, and lets throw in some explosions for good measure.
Great video! Really interesting and useful information. I also heard that bucklers can be used similar to shields (some technique can bolognaise or something like that), but that is not as practical for Arming swords or short swords, because they are far too exposed to use the buckler individually from the sword. Later on, however, practices involving the back-sword and saber started combined using the buckler as a secondary or jabbing weapon (like a blunt knife!) because those swords already come with a well-shielded handguard.
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When people in the period carried bucklers around it was as a substitute as armor/gloves/shield while doing daily life, because true armor would be a little cumbersome for having a drink and getting some errands run. You pull out a sword in buckler when your coughs off guard doing something while your not geared up. Most of the time sword a buckler fight would be an unarmored civilian fight.
+pc genie a video game isnt real? Woooaaaahhhh. Next thing you'll tell me is that i cant carry 6 assault rifles and 3000 rounds while running like in Call of Duty.
That was beautiful! It was like poetry watching them fight........ Then the rogues decided they could fight too... X-3 no seriously I had my last 2 finals today and seeing this video just put me in a much better mood. Thanks you two!
Boxing episode would be cool but what I want to see is a revamped pro wrestling video. I want to see the ultimate return of Kmart Guile Jason's questionable search history "scooby doo" "how to grow a good beard" "drink beer explanation" this man is clearly dangerous
You guys actually just saved me money in an odd way with the talk about internet speed. Made me look up my speed with Arvig.com which I go through and found out they were throttling my internet from 50mbs that I'm paying for down to 25mbs after multiple test and double checking with some people I know.
Wait, what, you can open carry swords Texas? Probably why, rapiers, and Scottish claymores had hand baskets. I honestly did not know the buckler was meant to be used basically like a pseudo hand basket, but even better, these guys are a wealth of knowledge, on a broad spectrum of information, imo
That's the great thing about weapon-based martial arts is that weight and strength differences is less of a factor since edged weapons are huge force multipliers that you don't need a lot of strength to cause debilitating injuries. Your opponent can hurt you just as much as you can hurt him.
Speaking of a modern rouge... the ad was rougeish I hope it doesn't sound too far fetched to thumbs up because the ad but with the new net neutrality how is a VPN not a modern rouge tool and the ad fits the channel so well. Well done guys.
A point on Net Neutrality and VPNs. It's worth noting that a VPN would not protect you. If I was running an ISP that used throttling shaft my customers for more money, I'd heavily throttle VPN traffic so people wouldn't have access to that workaround.
I'd say that Jason's a better warrior, Brian's a better scoundrel, and they're tied for best gentlemen. You can tell they're both good guys, in the end.
17:22 Did you mean the final ward? It's 1 part Green Chartreuse, 1 part Gin, 1 part Maraschino liqueur and 1 part Lime juice. 18:51 I'm a master of Ward 8. 4 parts rye whiskey to 1 part orange juice, 1 part lemon juice and a drop of grenadine, stirred and strained over fresh rocks with a boozy cherry and orange peel garnish. It's the perfect combination of sweetness and acidity to bring out the most subtle of notes in any Canadian or French whiskey. 20:20 XD That's great!
How to Win a Fight with a Sword and Buckler Step 1: Git Gud Step 2: P A R R Y STEP3: 360SPIN STEP 4: ONESHOT WITH CHAOS DAGGER! STEP 5 *Point Down for dramatic effect*
Well, there are ways around that... Namely finding a good dragon that can show you how to defend yourself (and probably your city/town) from evil dragons that want to... y'know kill you and burn everything... without actually killing any dragons in the episode. Everyone's happy then.
As a sword fighter my self please remember to wear a mask when doing drills and slow work when using swords to avoid serious injury. A man recently had a sword put through his eye because he wasn’t wearing a mask. These are first and foremost weapons.
Brian thank you for reminding me to turn my VPN back on. The reason it was off is because mine just stops working sometimes so unless I turn it off I can't access the internet. I have the problem with Private Internet Access and I had it with Nord too.
23:08 Some of Jason's search history is *really* dubious. Scooby Doo; drink beer explanation; *how to grow a good beard!* Man, just when you think you know a guy!
wow So im going thru and always checking knowledge that ward 1 is the same as my first draw with my katana. Using my back hand on the blade to strike thru. I love watching all sword techniques and you guys are great. Don't usually comment all that much but are u sure u dont use the back hand of your buckler hand to drive your sword forward faster and harder? I am no master by any means but that whole motion looks like a double punch one with your buckler hand punch your sword hand that way you dont extend or expose but have maximum power in the first opening strike cause thats definetly opening Cut.
Pretty sure Modern Rogue uses the exact same Spotify playlist I use at work in the background of their videos. Lo Fi Hip Hop/Chilledcow to be exact. Pretty awesome hahaha
Rocknoob49 I'm curious of the stance with sheath like for me in my 15years we never do that except Fro the first draw, from there it's always and I mean ALWAYS hanging, St George to low guard, reverse forward, forward and low guard but low is not something advised as it's about defending your body and not being dramatic with sword play.. all in all these guys know what your doing, I feel his over extension was purely to express the reach and constant state of alertness rather than his specific technique. I will say though some people find it hard to strictly stay on point with traditional methods as the adaption of style And visual education of "what we know" as sword play has taught many of us bad habits.
1:53 Doesn't the Bolognese school of Swordsmanship have a style of sword and buckler where they hold the buckler out like that? I think I saw some videos of people experimenting with certain Italian manuscripts where the images had the swordsmen holding their bucklers out like that. I do remember hearing that that style isn't very well studied though
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The Modern Rogue yes Denis Roger
The Modern Rogue Next: lightsaber sword fighting
The Modern Rogue great episode dude
The beard is looking good Brian!
How do i claim it
"Is there a rival school?"
"Not anymore..."
I love these guys
reminds me of the Dojo wars.
15:08 - Half-expected that upward pan to reveal Brian with a fresh eyepatch.
TehAdrenalinePickle I expected full face mask only
I expected at least a band-aid. How many injuries to unlock "Accident Prone" achievement?
TehAdrenalinePickle no but he is now fully blind in one eye. Arg.
Goldroman22 use the chicken hat
Obviously they didn't learn anything from him nearly losing an eye.
You guys are wizards. I was just thinking to myself we need more sword fighting lessons, and here you are.
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Working on their martial weapons proficiency feat. Nobody expects a wizard with a longsword, even though Gandalf did it.
Geoff Green yeah, but Gandalf was also spooked by a mountain. Did it turn out to be justifiable? Yes, but still, a mountain.
Thank you guys for showing people HEMA stuff. Our sport is really unknown and underappreciated.
SpockLogic I love it. So glad we met the AHWG team.
Jason Murphy oh shit your the actual Jason I didn't know you guys had a channel but I'm with Spock it is a very under appreciated sport
Now to break our way into film and TV!
I really want a HEMA school near me, but there is none.
@@succulentravioli954 I'm in the same boat. Nearest schools are 3 hours away from where I live, so I can only visit them at most once a month. So, most of HEMA that I do is reading manuscripts, form practice, and when my other HEMA buddy and I hang, we usually do drills together, and a bit of sparring.
BOXING EPISODE HYPE
Love that Anthony is getting the art out there, he runs a great club in Austin. Great job!
Yeah, those guys are fantastic.
Further evidence that one day, when Brian tragically parishes while filming, it will not be an accident. Murphy will have just finally succeeded in his dastardly plot...
Instead of
“Days since accident on set”
It’ll say
“Days since purpose on set”
By the time Brian and Jason have concluded the channel, Jason will be one of the most dangerous people in the world and Brian will have been whittled down to a mere stump that occasionally exclaimes "Wow...Ok!"
tooooooo accurate.
Man, I really like their new HEMA series.
Thank you for entertainment. Thank you for adding ads so professionally, not annoying that much
Although the lessons here explicitly say not to separate the sword hand from the buckler, there are other Medieval/Renaissance styles that show them used separately a lot. Paulus Kal and Marozzo for example.
Yeah, I was thinking about pointing that out.
"Do dresspants robotmen have to follow Asimov's laws"
I sure as hell hope so.
have you not read any of the books? the entire point is that the laws don't work.
I love it when I see you almost killing each other. It warms my heart.
You guys are my goto source for drawing and writing up fight scenes and weapons. Fingers crossed you might cover crossbows someday!
Would love to!
I saw a tweet to this effect the other day! Don't know if you're the same person, but I really love seeing stuff like this.
twitter.com/Darkspeeds/status/941726220844011520
No, that person puts me to shame lmao. But very cool, does get me in a drawing mood.
0:33 Anthony's answer was so quick that even Brian and Jason took a second to get it! Quick and sharp, well done mr. swordmaster
At 2:30 Anthony mentions to not hold the sword like a hammer. Fun fact, the best way to hold a hammer is like a sword. :)
that moment when the product that's placed in my content-provider-of-choice's video is both something I want, and a meaningful discount from shopping myself.
Gotta give Brian big congrats for surviving a sword to the eyeball and fighting on when there are some guards who quit adventuring after only a mere arrow to the knee. And one to Murphy for finally realizing his life goal of stabbing Brian in the eyeball with a sword. *High five Rogues*
Next time on The Modern Rouge _ARCHERY_
Jason: So you pull back thi-- oops!
Brain: My kneeeeeee!
Oh man. That moment was terrifying.
I believe you. The look on your face was like aw shit i killed him
It's so funny to watch these when you know German. Because Fechtbuch, halpschild (halb Schild) or Messer, Oberwacht from the long sword episode are just German words. They pronounce them so differently.
When will they teach you how to end your opponents rightly with a pommel throw?
This guy HEMA's
what about halfswording
this joke isn’t funny
Bruh, that's a forbidden technique!
I am familiar with this saying but not the reference. I'm outside the inside joke until someone mentions the quote origin.
I did the short sword and buckler for a short time. the most interesting drills were always against someone with a long sword, totally different experience!
Honestly these are my favorite videos. I've probably seen these and the Aces videos 5+ times each
Gabriel De Leon Right on! Glad you’re enjoying them.
nice!!
also glad you guys endorsed a vpn, keep up the great work
brian, that huge beard, along with a sword and buckler, really do give you a confused viking look
Loving the move description overlap on screen!
I find it funny how they forgot everything as soon as they started going at it. I can understand why, and how, but its still funny.
Mrmoocows99 That definitely happened.
yuuuup
@@ModernRogue It's very, very hard to remember that stuff in the heat of the moment XD
@@ModernRogue pls do on sabers pls
@@ModernRogue pls do a vis on sabers pls
so i dont want to be a downer or anything and i personally love nord vpn service. and its true that the cable company cant see exactly what your doing with a vpn on, but they do see the vpn. they can literally just say your not allowed to use said vpn at all and force you to stop using it. which is garbage.
I'm a total HEMA lover but usually get bored most of HEMA vids this vid is so good!!
awesome! This just made my day to read.
I'm glad the other coach talked more this time.
I hope Brian and jason continue going back to these guys...maybe spears or something
I love these so much! Sword and Shield next Pleaseee, ps some intermediate skills in that would be even more of a dream. Thanks Brian and Jason!
S/o to Anthony. That intro was amazing
Gabriel De Leon Yeah, I lol’d.
I love this channel because it's just so open... Here's a video about making steaks, here's some cocktails, here's some freaking sword fighting, and lets throw in some explosions for good measure.
Great video! Really interesting and useful information.
I also heard that bucklers can be used similar to shields (some technique can bolognaise or something like that), but that is not as practical for Arming swords or short swords, because they are far too exposed to use the buckler individually from the sword. Later on, however, practices involving the back-sword and saber started combined using the buckler as a secondary or jabbing weapon (like a blunt knife!) because those swords already come with a well-shielded handguard.
I love the other instructors little old timey boxing shimmy and how he keeps calling out the "special ward"
Learn how to fight with a quarterstaff!
Psycho Pyro That’s a must. Just need to find some experts.
Psycho Pyro just poke em until they go away or unscrew your quarterstaff pomel to end him rightly
can I just say that the most I can get is 5 download and .5 upload and those speeds make me so happy knowing that there is a chance that i might be able to get good internet
When people in the period carried bucklers around it was as a substitute as armor/gloves/shield while doing daily life, because true armor would be a little cumbersome for having a drink and getting some errands run. You pull out a sword in buckler when your coughs off guard doing something while your not geared up. Most of the time sword a buckler fight would be an unarmored civilian fight.
Yep. When you're in plate armor, why even bother with a buckler? Sword and buckler remained common for general use because of its insane practicality.
My only experience with a buckler is Gladiator from For Honor, i was expecting a lot of punch.
Assassinboy 990 lol same here. Or perhaps a toe jab or 2.
If you guys ever want to play I'm on PS4
Taiga Airsoft yeah same I'm on xbox too. I'm gonna get it for pc too tho.
Although in general, For Honor is extremely unrealistic and terrible, even if many people find it fun.
+pc genie a video game isnt real? Woooaaaahhhh. Next thing you'll tell me is that i cant carry 6 assault rifles and 3000 rounds while running like in Call of Duty.
That was beautiful! It was like poetry watching them fight........ Then the rogues decided they could fight too... X-3 no seriously I had my last 2 finals today and seeing this video just put me in a much better mood. Thanks you two!
Outstanding! I hope you scored well on your final.
yessss I love y'alls hema stuff
Boxing episode would be cool but what I want to see is a revamped pro wrestling video. I want to see the ultimate return of Kmart Guile
Jason's questionable search history "scooby doo" "how to grow a good beard" "drink beer explanation" this man is clearly dangerous
You guys actually just saved me money in an odd way with the talk about internet speed. Made me look up my speed with Arvig.com which I go through and found out they were throttling my internet from 50mbs that I'm paying for down to 25mbs after multiple test and double checking with some people I know.
"Search history is questionable." Has Scooby Doo. 100/10
26:48 That little short hop is hilarious.
the MODERN rogue doing sword fighting.
Wait, what, you can open carry swords Texas? Probably why, rapiers, and Scottish claymores had hand baskets. I honestly did not know the buckler was meant to be used basically like a pseudo hand basket, but even better, these guys are a wealth of knowledge, on a broad spectrum of information, imo
Holy crap Jason is gonna murder Brian in a boxing match... if he can get his hands on Brian in the first couple of rounds.
The height diff. and between Bryan and Jason might make it a biased fight
That's the great thing about weapon-based martial arts is that weight and strength differences is less of a factor since edged weapons are huge force multipliers that you don't need a lot of strength to cause debilitating injuries. Your opponent can hurt you just as much as you can hurt him.
This NordVPN is awesome. Keep up the great work guys! Love the show.
so good, right??
Speaking of a modern rouge... the ad was rougeish I hope it doesn't sound too far fetched to thumbs up because the ad but with the new net neutrality how is a VPN not a modern rouge tool and the ad fits the channel so well. Well done guys.
Looks like the Rogues joined the fighters guild in Tamriel.
I was in my friend's quiet car, and saw this and started screaming in happiness
A point on Net Neutrality and VPNs. It's worth noting that a VPN would not protect you. If I was running an ISP that used throttling shaft my customers for more money, I'd heavily throttle VPN traffic so people wouldn't have access to that workaround.
You've earned a subscriber.
It's a tradition of my people that we engage in a virtual sword duel.
En garde!
Nice!!
I feel like brian tends to say he understands and gets it, wanting to be a good student, before he actually gets it. Ward 1 was a good example.
Liked this video just because of the description.
28:13 This new version of the spikes looks great.
who's a better warrior whos the better scoundrel and who's the better gentleman
I'd say that Jason's a better warrior, Brian's a better scoundrel, and they're tied for best gentlemen. You can tell they're both good guys, in the end.
yeah i think so too...
you guys need to do kali class (empty hands) and it deals with angles rather than strikes. they also have a weapons element as well
04:46 When you see the first question on a test
Anthony and Bryant sparing, it looks so silly but it is so effective.
'Is there a rival school?' 'Not anymore.' 😆
I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT. Anthony kinda looks like WoWCrendor. No one will know this reference, but yeah
yeah
If memory serves, he kinda does?
It's been a long time since I last saw Crendor.
He's the more coordinated version of crendor
17:22 Did you mean the final ward? It's 1 part Green Chartreuse, 1 part Gin, 1 part Maraschino liqueur and 1 part Lime juice.
18:51 I'm a master of Ward 8. 4 parts rye whiskey to 1 part orange juice, 1 part lemon juice and a drop of grenadine, stirred and strained over fresh rocks with a boozy cherry and orange peel garnish. It's the perfect combination of sweetness and acidity to bring out the most subtle of notes in any Canadian or French whiskey.
20:20 XD That's great!
I came here to learn how to defend myself with a Sword and buckler. Stayed for the awesome duo
You guys should do a video on ARGs (Alternate/Augmented Reality Games), would love to see it! Keep up the good videos.
Trash Can Of Useless Knowledge I do love ARGs!
Isn't every episode on ARGs with all the secret puzzles?
How to Win a Fight with a Sword and Buckler
Step 1: Git Gud
Step 2: P A R R Y
STEP3: 360SPIN
STEP 4: ONESHOT WITH CHAOS DAGGER!
STEP 5 *Point Down for dramatic effect*
Ouch that eye poke looked pretty bad. Taking it like a champ Brian. Maybe one you guys will have a combat episode where no one has to take 5.
We can only hope
That was terrifying.
When is the dragon fighting episode?
Ethan H. It was supposed to be filmed months ago but PETA shut it down
Dakota Warren Yeah. They’ve got a strict “no slaying” policy.
Jason Murphy I’ve heard there is a loophole with wyverns, though.
Well, there are ways around that... Namely finding a good dragon that can show you how to defend yourself (and probably your city/town) from evil dragons that want to... y'know kill you and burn everything... without actually killing any dragons in the episode. Everyone's happy then.
Jason Murphy modern Rogues do it with a .50 cal anyway
As a sword fighter my self please remember to wear a mask when doing drills and slow work when using swords to avoid serious injury. A man recently had a sword put through his eye because he wasn’t wearing a mask. These are first and foremost weapons.
Sword and buckler is probably the best medieval sidearm imo
Brian thank you for reminding me to turn my VPN back on. The reason it was off is because mine just stops working sometimes so unless I turn it off I can't access the internet. I have the problem with Private Internet Access and I had it with Nord too.
good job, boys, and solid sponsor, i find.
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I like My Talhoffer. I added an extra spike in the middle of the Boss.
“How to grow a good beard” “Drink beer explanation” 😂 😂 😂
25:33 the 8th Ward- Fake reluctance then screaming war-cry attack.
23:08 Some of Jason's search history is *really* dubious.
Scooby Doo; drink beer explanation; *how to grow a good beard!*
Man, just when you think you know a guy!
The unprompted soul reaver reference makes me happy.
25:40 i laughed so damn hard at that scream
"So like in a chess game"
Thank you for not leaving me feel like the capital N Nerd in the group for jumping to that thought pattern :P
Hey Brian. Hey Jason. Nice episode. Really nice.
**thumbs-up emoji**
The Modern Rogue Why not just do it😂. If you need to copy here it is den 👍 here it is in black too ya never know 👍🏿
Brian's beard/glasses look as beautiful and I love him
That thing about sieges is the exact opposite of what a siege is.
Hey guys, I love HEMA. What is your favorite weapon system in HEMA?
Respond to make my day Brian! RESPOOOOOOND
Never!
...oh, crap.
Lmao k
wow So im going thru and always checking knowledge that ward 1 is the same as my first draw with my katana. Using my back hand on the blade to strike thru. I love watching all sword techniques and you guys are great. Don't usually comment all that much but are u sure u dont use the back hand of your buckler hand to drive your sword forward faster and harder? I am no master by any means but that whole motion looks like a double punch one with your buckler hand punch your sword hand that way you dont extend or expose but have maximum power in the first opening strike cause thats definetly opening Cut.
I can tell you right now this is the first time i've seen someone wield a sword with a hoodie on
Pretty sure Modern Rogue uses the exact same Spotify playlist I use at work in the background of their videos. Lo Fi Hip Hop/Chilledcow to be exact. Pretty awesome hahaha
Brandt picks some excellent backing tracks for us.
Another great video. Thank you.
These guys are great!
Oho! Ya took out my eye there!
Really great video. Preesh.
screw Google Thanks!
well done, had so much fun watching, and the vpn review seems useful! Thanks!
keep up the great work guys
Texas is the best, Austin is the best
Boxing episode!!!
I expected a DS parry king, but im not disappointed with this though
That instructor should really watch their distances, they tend to stretch out a loooot. Cool guys though!
Rocknoob49 I'm curious of the stance with sheath like for me in my 15years we never do that except Fro the first draw, from there it's always and I mean ALWAYS hanging, St George to low guard, reverse forward, forward and low guard but low is not something advised as it's about defending your body and not being dramatic with sword play.. all in all these guys know what your doing, I feel his over extension was purely to express the reach and constant state of alertness rather than his specific technique. I will say though some people find it hard to strictly stay on point with traditional methods as the adaption of style And visual education of "what we know" as sword play has taught many of us bad habits.
I am absolutely going to learn these for my case-weapon style. xD
1:53 Doesn't the Bolognese school of Swordsmanship have a style of sword and buckler where they hold the buckler out like that? I think I saw some videos of people experimenting with certain Italian manuscripts where the images had the swordsmen holding their bucklers out like that. I do remember hearing that that style isn't very well studied though
They do, it's also from a couple hundred years after I.33. I don't practice either though so can't speak to what is or isn't more effective