Yesterday I returned my 2021 XT5 Sport and leased a 2024 XT5 Premium Luxury, after reading stuff like the XT5 is being discontinued online, at night time I saw a few clips 2025 XT5 and was totally bummed about not knowing about it and waiting for it. I just found your TH-cam channel and listened to your podcast about it, what a relief! Glad I found your very informative channel. I hope they bring it to the USA in 36 months 🙂 Blessings! Vic
Especially if Trump is elected, GM's strategy to favor the Lyric over the next-gen XT-5 will not work well from a sales standpoint. GM is taking one hell of a risk here, given the XT-5 was their best selling Cadillac vehicle.
@@rlsedition From 2018 to now, I count 264,874 Escalade sales vs 273,015 XT5 sales. Since 2018, XT5 sales have been declining while Escalade sales have been steady and are now in a up trend
@@rlsedition Yea, 2018-2019 showed some incredible sales, but after 2020, the Escalade has outsold it. The refresh does not appear to be helping XT4 sales, and I think we would see a similar trend with the refreshed XT5 if it were brought here,
I agree with you regarding the Model Y aesthetics, particularly the minimalistic interior. The key competitive feature the Y has over the Lyriq is the Supercharger network.
@@G-Rated While true, a glance at YT videos on EV charging depict notably different experiences between the Superchargers and non-Superchargers. Though I'm planning to stick with my CT6 which adds range faster then either network :)
I’d love to have this vehicle just as it appears here. I have a ‘21 model and was looking forward to a refresh. I don’t know what goes on in a General Motors board meeting but they don’t think like I do. Not sure if I’ll stay with GM or not. Also, not sure if I want an all electric vehicle either. Lyriq is very expensive to get one with the same options I currently have.
This xt5 is actually designed by the SAIC-GM joint venture company called PATAC and you won’t believe new Chevrolet equinox is also designed there,and in China they have phev edition,GM used to sell huge amount of vehicles in China but now struggling to stay in the game 😢GM made a lot money in China but things changed so fast that all of a sudden it has very difficult situations
And we should feel sorry for them? They went well over their heads going all in on the Chinese market and neglecting the US market. Now the Chinese market is ditching them in favor of homegrown brands and it will only get worse as geopolitics get worse and the local consumers picks their own products. And then what? Another bailout? No thank you. They can go ask Xi for a bailout if he is interested. They better start shaping up and start embracing the US market or else its going to end very badly for GM.
The Lyric is certainly not an ugly vehicle, but neither is it beautiful. It doesn't seem to know whether it's a sedan or wagon. And I've seen the new Celestique in person and it's no drama queen either design-wise despite its stratospheric price tag.
@@Motrolix I mean you might not want to pop off attitude. I didn't listen to the entire thing as I was working. Apologies for not listening to 30 mins of your monotone bore. My bad! I'm sure your channel will be very successful with you being completely ignorant towards your prospective viewers. Be gone now. Never watching this again.
I live in China and just bought the GT4, which is a coupe, a model only for China. Because of the EV boom, foreign car makers have to lower their prices big time! The GT4 cost me only $26K brand spanking new! 😎
GM repeatedly makes the mistake of banking on peoples loyalty to their brand when in reality people have more loyalty to the category of vehicle. I love my XT5 but I am not ready to make such a significant investment into what I see currently as a downgrade. So if GM doesn’t have a comparable ICE mid sized luxury CUV, then I will look elsewhere.
The 2nd gen XT5 made in China needs to be made here. I would not buy a car made by our enemy, would you? I own a 2017 XT5. Checked out the 2025 model. Not much is different. Other 50K cars have updated. XT5 has not.
Yes and no. If you exist in a perfect world and are working from a clean sheet design for every vehicle, then yes. In the case of the C1 models, the way in which they’re extending the track brings some constraints based on the architecture’s hard points. So growing the track results in a slight change to the mounting point of the axles, thereby increasing the wheelbase by only 6 mm.
@@Motrolix "Track" is always about vehicle width, center of tire to center of tire. "Wheelbase" is always about vehicle length, center of front wheels to center of rear wheels.
You're stating the obvious definitions of the measurements, while we are discussing the REASON that wheelbase grew 6 mm. See prior comment for that. - Alex
Also, if you want to get technical, then your definition of "track" is incorrect. Track is NOT about VEHICLE width, but rather about the width of the outermost point of the rolling stock to outermost point of rolling stock. That could be less or more than overall vehicle width, which now involves body/sheet metal.
Cut the trash. If anything bring the CT6 over. We don't need that FWD based Equinox in a suit. Stop downgrading the brand. Cadillac will never be taken serious if they keep pumping out this trash and expect someone to buy a half a million dollar car too.
Lol... you guys are hilarious blaming cadillac for not making the blackwing video... yall didn't come out with a video for a month. Almost like stringing us along.
I'm just glad someone caught onto our sarcasm! In all honestly, we recorded this episode in August, but ran into some delays in production. The Blackwing production numbers are coming after the next one, which will be about a concept. Thanks for watching :) - Alex
I have a 2020 XT5 and enjoy it. It is a nice car but I would not buy another one which is out dated. I normally trade every 5 model years but if I do, it will probably not be a Cadillac. GM got it wrong with going full steam into EVs. If the new Trump administration cuts the $7500 tax credit and States continue to increase additional taxes on EVs, thing could get ugly esp for GM
Get rid of the XT6 and then introduce the Chinese XT5 redesign to other markets. If you’re in the market for a 3 row Cadillac, let’s be honest, no one’s going to go looking for a XT6, they’ll all think of an Escalade. Not only will this provide Vistiq a chance to catch on but also provide GM with the physical space to manufacture the newly refreshed XT5. XT5 still looks like a grandpa car among its other SUVs… shit looks so dated and tired.
It needs to come to the states asap it looks awesome specially the interior
Yesterday I returned my 2021 XT5 Sport and leased a 2024 XT5 Premium Luxury, after reading stuff like the XT5 is being discontinued online, at night time I saw a few clips 2025 XT5 and was totally bummed about not knowing about it and waiting for it. I just found your TH-cam channel and listened to your podcast about it, what a relief! Glad I found your very informative channel. I hope they bring it to the USA in 36 months 🙂
Blessings!
Vic
I work at a Cadillac dealership. The EV's just sit on the lot for months.
Lincoln and Lexus are loving this half-brained decision by GM.
Especially if Trump is elected, GM's strategy to favor the Lyric over the next-gen XT-5 will not work well from a sales standpoint. GM is taking one hell of a risk here, given the XT-5 was their best selling Cadillac vehicle.
Isn't the Escalade their best seller?
@@mr_b3ntley2010 No, Escalade is too expensive for high volume sales.
@@rlsedition From 2018 to now, I count 264,874 Escalade sales vs 273,015 XT5 sales. Since 2018, XT5 sales have been declining while Escalade sales have been steady and are now in a up trend
@@mr_b3ntley2010 As I said, the XT-5 is the best selling Cadillac model.
@@rlsedition Yea, 2018-2019 showed some incredible sales, but after 2020, the Escalade has outsold it. The refresh does not appear to be helping XT4 sales, and I think we would see a similar trend with the refreshed XT5 if it were brought here,
I agree with you regarding the Model Y aesthetics, particularly the minimalistic interior. The key competitive feature the Y has over the Lyriq is the Supercharger network.
Most people charge at home or use fast chargers in the city.
@@G-Rated While true, a glance at YT videos on EV charging depict notably different experiences between the Superchargers and non-Superchargers. Though I'm planning to stick with my CT6 which adds range faster then either network :)
I’d love to have this vehicle just as it appears here. I have a ‘21 model and was looking forward to a refresh. I don’t know what goes on in a General Motors board meeting but they don’t think like I do. Not sure if I’ll stay with GM or not. Also, not sure if I want an all electric vehicle either. Lyriq is very expensive to get one with the same options I currently have.
This xt5 is actually designed by the SAIC-GM joint venture company called PATAC and you won’t believe new Chevrolet equinox is also designed there,and in China they have phev edition,GM used to sell huge amount of vehicles in China but now struggling to stay in the game 😢GM made a lot money in China but things changed so fast that all of a sudden it has very difficult situations
And we should feel sorry for them? They went well over their heads going all in on the Chinese market and neglecting the US market. Now the Chinese market is ditching them in favor of homegrown brands and it will only get worse as geopolitics get worse and the local consumers picks their own products. And then what? Another bailout? No thank you. They can go ask Xi for a bailout if he is interested. They better start shaping up and start embracing the US market or else its going to end very badly for GM.
If they don't release it here they will lose market share to other brands. Most people have no interest in EVs.
The Lyric is certainly not an ugly vehicle, but neither is it beautiful. It doesn't seem to know whether it's a sedan or wagon. And I've seen the new Celestique in person and it's no drama queen either design-wise despite its stratospheric price tag.
Why am I seeing the 2025 XT5 on the Cadillac site but not looking like this, looking like the 2024 model?
I mean… you might want to listen to this podcast, which explains why.
@@Motrolix I mean you might not want to pop off attitude. I didn't listen to the entire thing as I was working. Apologies for not listening to 30 mins of your monotone bore. My bad! I'm sure your channel will be very successful with you being completely ignorant towards your prospective viewers. Be gone now. Never watching this again.
I live in China and just bought the GT4, which is a coupe, a model only for China. Because of the EV boom, foreign car makers have to lower their prices big time! The GT4 cost me only $26K brand spanking new! 😎
Most people aren't ready for EVs! They are idiots if they don't bring this to the US!
GM repeatedly makes the mistake of banking on peoples loyalty to their brand when in reality people have more loyalty to the category of vehicle. I love my XT5 but I am not ready to make such a significant investment into what I see currently as a downgrade. So if GM doesn’t have a comparable ICE mid sized luxury CUV, then I will look elsewhere.
The 2nd gen XT5 made in China needs to be made here. I would not buy a car made by our enemy, would you? I own a 2017 XT5. Checked out the 2025 model. Not much is different. Other 50K cars have updated. XT5 has not.
Is ct4 BW getting refresh ct5 BW got?
They need to bring it to the states for 2026.
I wonder if this means there will be a next generation Chevy Blazer?
Why the voices?
Huh and/or what?
Track has NOTHING to do with wheelbase.
Yes and no. If you exist in a perfect world and are working from a clean sheet design for every vehicle, then yes. In the case of the C1 models, the way in which they’re extending the track brings some constraints based on the architecture’s hard points. So growing the track results in a slight change to the mounting point of the axles, thereby increasing the wheelbase by only 6 mm.
@@Motrolix "Track" is always about vehicle width, center of tire to center of tire. "Wheelbase" is always about vehicle length, center of front wheels to center of rear wheels.
You're stating the obvious definitions of the measurements, while we are discussing the REASON that wheelbase grew 6 mm. See prior comment for that. - Alex
Also, if you want to get technical, then your definition of "track" is incorrect. Track is NOT about VEHICLE width, but rather about the width of the outermost point of the rolling stock to outermost point of rolling stock. That could be less or more than overall vehicle width, which now involves body/sheet metal.
WTF? I just bought a brand new 2025 Cadillac XT5 Sport....
Right, but not the next generation model discussed here.
Cut the trash. If anything bring the CT6 over. We don't need that FWD based Equinox in a suit. Stop downgrading the brand. Cadillac will never be taken serious if they keep pumping out this trash and expect someone to buy a half a million dollar car too.
Lol... you guys are hilarious blaming cadillac for not making the blackwing video... yall didn't come out with a video for a month. Almost like stringing us along.
I'm just glad someone caught onto our sarcasm! In all honestly, we recorded this episode in August, but ran into some delays in production. The Blackwing production numbers are coming after the next one, which will be about a concept. Thanks for watching :) - Alex
I have a 2020 XT5 and enjoy it. It is a nice car but I would not buy another one which is out dated. I normally trade every 5 model years but if I do, it will probably not be a Cadillac. GM got it wrong with going full steam into EVs. If the new Trump administration cuts the $7500 tax credit and States continue to increase additional taxes on EVs, thing could get ugly esp for GM
The Lyric looks stupid
Get rid of the XT6 and then introduce the Chinese XT5 redesign to other markets. If you’re in the market for a 3 row Cadillac, let’s be honest, no one’s going to go looking for a XT6, they’ll all think of an Escalade. Not only will this provide Vistiq a chance to catch on but also provide GM with the physical space to manufacture the newly refreshed XT5. XT5 still looks like a grandpa car among its other SUVs… shit looks so dated and tired.