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At 4:37 the panel shows the dark side of the moon which cannot have Saitama's crater from his fight with Boros because the same side of the moon always faces earth. It is also shown again at 10:19.
Kyle. At 12:00 I think it is more likely that saitama simply just jumped into space and then used his fart to further increase his speed. Saitama has already shown himself to be strong enough to simply just jump into space.
Saitama sneezing away the entire surface of Jupiter and exposing its core is one of the most badass panels and mind blowing panels I’ve seen in a manga. The whole time traveling feat was just the icing on the cake for me.
Don't forget that despite how he appears, Saitama has an innate genius level of understanding of physics. In his fight against Boros he only had to casually throw a small rock 1 feet in the air to instantly know how much power he would need to jump back from the moon not only to reach earth, but to land exactly back on Boros' ship taking into account earth's rotation and the Moon's orbital motion.
Ikr? Saitama, despite him not using any of many techniques in the OPM universe, or even developing his own, has perfect control of his mass, momentum and force. He doesn't often use it, because he can beat his most of his opponents with no effort, but when he does it's a treat to read or watch.
I didn't see that at all, was that stated?? All I saw was that he threw a rock up to see the low Gravity effect and thought it was cool but since he needs Oxygen in order to breathe he just jumped right back and since it's fiction and Murata doesn't have a genius level Quantum Physics degree, he thought it would look cool and that it would be efficient that he just landed back in the same spot. Even if Siatama thought about all of the Physics behind his jump Murata certainty didn't.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki the anime didn't put any dialogue in the entire entire moon jumping sequence, but the manga had some inner monologues of Saitama about mentioning about moon's gravitational pull compared to Earth and whatnot
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Supes also needs oxygen to breath, in space but since he can store air like high pressure tanks, I'll bet Saitama can do it too......
The ideal rocket equation doesn't factor in relativistic exhaust velocity, right? If the fart travels at a significant fraction of the speed of light, it will increase its mass, thus increasing its thrust. A mere 98.7% c would result in a 6.1x relativistic mass, thus providing the necessary dt v (ideal rocket equation with its ln may have something to say about that, but I'm just conceptualizing)
Yes relatively does come into play here, there is no upper limit on the impulse an object can carry, regards of resting mass. The statement in the video is sadly wrong
Creating an internal pressure enough to crush several suns and enveloping the surface of whichever the fart got in contact with heat so hot that it just disappears instantly.
I feel that if someone could produce a fart that travels 6 times faster than the speed of light, they wouldn’t take off from a celestial body, they’d fire the celestial body away from themselves. XD
One of the things I like about OPM is that it takes the idea that completely overpowered or 'broken' characters are boring to read about and kill stories unless you make everyone else even more awesome to overshadow them. Saitama is literally so strong he can take out anything or anyone...but he's still an interesting character with an interesting setting
It is because he knows just how OP he is and it disappoints him. we feel bad for him with some of the fights he finished too quickly. Plus his 'hey, I have done that!' moments like with the sale at the grocery store.
i really enjoy the first seasons take on existential dread as OPM had no one strong enough to fight him and i guess is in a "depressed" state. reminds me how how i feel when helping a friend in a game and im at max level killing everything with ease and getting bored of no challenge.
They call this or at least I do the Superman problem. Superman can't be "defeated" but its how he solves problems and or how he interacts with the cast that makes his stories interesting or boring power fantasies.
He got the Fart math wrong tho. Saitama's body is full of energy. Like Lifeforce as it was explained earlier by the green haired girl, so his farts are under immense pressure, as confirmed by the animation. It was far from a normal fart. And it also seems he farted into garou's portal and not across space.
@@joshanonline his fart math is close and his fart wasn’t life energy he stated in the manga that while he was in space he got a “stomachache from the cold” chapter 168 And tatsumaki wasn’t talking about saitama fart when she was saying the life force she was knocked out during the time he did that And the fart is debatable I don’t think he farted all the way there but he did sneeze from Jupiter to the sun and farted back to earth
I feel the need to point out that you skipped the fact that Garou’s punches were equivalent to Gamma ray bursts which are the MOST POWERFUL NATURAL PHENOMENON IN THE OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE
well i dont think that would work for someone who fucking sneezed so hard that he blew surface off of fucking jupiter! also edit: 10:44 (dark souls boss music) one punch man: the unchained.
I think OPM also kicked a spatial anomaly, a literal loony toon hole, away. He didn't destroy it by overload or anything. He kicked it like just another normal object, like a ball or an empty can on the roadside.
I'm pretty sure it's hinting the fact that Saitama is an extra dimensional being maybe the same as god, he's already accidentally broken into another dimension that literally happens in the mind.
@@ValidT and gogeta broke through a super dimension, (super dimension was the official translation for what Broly and Gogeta were fighting in when everything cracked
@@Chris_HT dude magic doesn’t exist in one punch man instead of a magical portal it’s a hole in the space-time that travels to different dimension, and Saitama grabbed that hole in space-time and moved it, which doesn’t make any sense
4:55 I interpreted that hole in the stars like this; the energy literally wiped out every photon that were coming from that direction from those stars. It didn't destroy them, the blast simply wiped out everything coming from that direction, including light.
I imagined the force of his fist somehow reflected all the photons in that cone, similar to how a black holes gravitational field would bend the light. Because even if he had destroyed the stars, their light would still keep traveling for years and years.
As a long time OPM reader I can't fully express how cool it is to see you, my favourite sciency (fellow) nerd dive into this. Funny thing is that, when first reading them, I had been contemplating the same moments that you've mentioned here. Thanks for being you, Kyle.
the other problem is that the panel for Serious Fart is a bit poorly presented, since Saitama is supposed to have just used the Gravity Knuckle gate to get back to earth behind Garou, which is why he comments about Garou's aim
11:47 I think you could assume in this case with all his powers he is also able to push more than the average amount of gas out. Perhaps about 6x more?
@@Grim712 was about to write this. yeaaaah... and also. that gas/mass is going somewhere... did it hit the moon he left?... what happened to that then..
My favorite part about this is how knowing the exact way in which these feats are “scientifically impossible” only serves to make them more impressive. It really helps to put a number on it.
I mean, not really. Knowing how something is impossible makes it more absurd but not more impressive. It ruins the story if you try to imagine how people moving faster than light can see each other given that sight is based on perceiving photons, which “only” move at the speed of light.
It's why OPM *_looks_* more impressive relative to things like DBZ or Naruto. ONE and Murata didn't have to go this hard with the physics, but they did, and OPM is all the better for it.
@@sigiligusThis is a really late reply, however To explain this, breaking your limtier esentially allows your body to do things are physically impossible We get a panel that states that Garou's synapses are spending up alongside his speed which implies his brain is evolving to keep up with his increasing speed, so the same could be applies to his eyes, given that a person with no limiter can interact with interdimensional portals I would say his eyes working without photon interaction is possible lol
Why would the redirected attack leaving the hole in the star field need to travel faster than the speed of light? It'd just have to obliterate all photons traveling towards us from that direction. Would that not create a void as depicted? The stars and galaxies are still there, just their light is gone for a bit.
That’s the problem, we don’t know if the impact just obliterated the photons or it literally created a bootes void by destroying all stars and cosmic bodies. I’m leaning towards your question, mainly to make a bit more sense, but this is a satire gag manga so who knows.
Maybe the punch caused substantial refraction.🤔 It's still a stretch, especially since I don't know what medium that force would travel through in space. It might also be worth questioning what form of energy Saitama's attacks are emitting at this power level.
4:48 - Creating a "hole in the stars" could actually be possible if the blast's mass/energy were contained in a volume approaching the Schwarzschild radius (a kugelblitz, or close enough) -- the photons emanated from the stars in that direction would be pulled away from their original trajectories, deflected away or pulled inside the blast such they never reach our eyes on earth and thus creating the appearance of a section of the sky devoid of stars. The interesting thing is that over time (perhaps hours or years), the radius of this "dark spot" in the sky would continuously shrink as the blast itself moves away from us, and also move around a bit (from our perspective) due to parallax effects as the earth rotates and orbits the sun -- this would all provide some spectacular, variable gravitational lensing effects for astronomers to oogle at for decades to come.
For those who are wondering why the chapters are numbered 170, 171 and 172 can be also be called 166, 167 and 168. The reason of that because Murata the author of the OPM manga redraws some of the chapters he already done after they are released. Meaning that sometimes he goes back to chapters he already released and make changes to them, which then will make them longer or shorter and therefore this will change the number of OPM chapters overall!
Anime only people when will never know how many redraws the manga readers have seen in the entire Monster Association arc. That Phoenix Man vs Child Emperor fight for example, was like redrawn 5 times.
4:56 You mention this as a "hole in the stars" which is impossible given the speed of light. However, you also mentioned that the attack could have destroyed the planet instantly. Is it possible that an attack of that magnitude would also carry with it a gravitational force? Essentially creating a black hole (similar to a star imploding or greater)? Thus the lack of stars isn't a "hole in the stars", but rather an attack capable of emitting enough gravity to bend light?
A black hole would cause lensing, which we don't see. It's a drawing of course, so they may have intended a black hole and just not thought of that. But the Interstellar image is in popular culture now so I doubt they would have left it like that if they wanted it to be a black hole. A column of distorted space might work, with it shaped so that light is directed away from the viewer or red shifted out of the visible spectrum. But given the shock value they were going for and Garou's later technique that lead to the Zero Punch, I think the most likely intent is that it created a wave of destruction traveling at the inverse of the speed of light so that it destroyed everything in that direction further and further back in time. So something a light-second away was destroyed a second ago, something a light year away was destroyed a year ago, etc. with expansion factored in proportionally.
Quick question: What if that planet busting blast wasn’t strong enough to “put a hole in the stars” but was strong enough to displace the light being emitted by those stars???
Idk if that would work. As they are very far away, there would still be light travelling from those stars to Earth, even if they did displace the nearby light. So it would probably take a very long time for the black spot to appear.
@@vanzwho854 I dont think so. If it was light speed, the light emitted from those stars just before the blast happened would still be travelling to earth. I dont remember how far away they were, but light from the sun takes 7 mins to get to us. If the sun just vanished, we wouldnt be able to tell for 7 minutes. They travelled WAY further away than the sun, so it could take millions of years for the black void to appear. But this is anime so it could be something wild like even faster than light speed.
5:10 we only know how much time it took from their perspective though. If they were traveling at a significant percent the speed of light (.99999c or faster) they would only experience a few seconds to what we as outside observers would consider 37min.
Another possibility is that the force was able to warp the light from that area, momentarily wiping the vision of those stars from the sky by pushing all the photons out of the way. Essentially, they created a force mirror that the photons couldn't penetrate.
I'm pretty sure the whole point of opm is that he transcended all limits (even the limits of physics and all that other cool sciencey jazz) so he doesn't really care that it's actually impossible in any way shape or form
I mean, his title within the universe, based on the universe’s deity, is “The fist that defied god”. Saitama is strong enough to make the god feel threatened and give Garou his glimpse of power to try to stop him
That was a misconstrued point made by the fandom based on the catchy title name. The point of OPM was that it was a satire of putting an end-series shonen protagonist at the beginning of their series (like Ultra Instinct Goku vs Raditz). Saitama broke his limiter so that he could go beyond human limitations, but he was never _absolutely_ limitless. That's why Saitama got upset that he was back to one punch after fighting Boros, and that's also why as shown in this video, Saitama has a set power level (it increased at an exponential rate).
@@daenite2480 Yeah totally! I didn't really mean that's the point of the series, (bad wording) but just in the context of the video talking about how powerful he is.
My favorite OPM feat is still the moon jump, where Saitama gets blasted to the moon by Boros, uses a rock to judge the relative gravity, and then uses precisely the correct amount of force in exactly the right direction to land exactly where he originally got blasted from. What's the margin of error on that?
I can only imagine its goddamn tiny. think how much harder it is to throw a basketball to the hoop just from the other side of the court at 28 meters. he was 384,400KM away. and you have to take into account the moon's gravity and the rotation of the earth and so many other factors.
@@ghosthunter0950 Luckily the moon is tidally locked, so it's position doesn't change a huge amount over time. That being said, Boros' ship has a top surface area of like 138671.52 sqr km (according to Genos), and the moon is 384472.282 km away (assuming this). If we say that Boros' ship is effectively a circle from that distance, then he'd have room for error of about 210.0964 km (radius). If I did my trig right, he'd have to aim to within about 0.03131 degrees. But, he landed within a few km of Boros instead by the looks of it. So, let's say, 5 km. That would leave Saitama with a margin of error of 0.0007451 degrees instead. That's assuming I did my math right.
To be fair he could make adjustments after entering the atmosphere and with the speed he is going he could’ve reached probably anywhere within a few thousand kilometers
4:43 My theory is that it just blew all the photons coming from that direction away, basically it just pushed the light out the direction of the blast with the whatever energy resulting from the punch, not the stars themselves.
I love how Kyle tried to make the math realistic by making it so that Saitama couldn’t travel faster than the speed of light. Until Saitama farted at 6x light speed, he just gave up.
I need to let you all non manga readers know that despite being a satire manga, Garou is one of the best characters ever written in manga. His backstory, interactions, motivations, goals, and powers are absolutely fantastic and it's genuinely captivating to watch his character grow
His webcomic version from chapter 81-94 was better than his manga counterpart imo. If you haven't read it, I highly recommend you do. The downgrade in art quality might be jarring at first, but the higher quality of writing makes up for it.
SPOILERS FOR OPM MANGA Murata seems to love drawing larger than life feats. You could calc how much power it would take for Psykos to cut off a piece of the earth in her fight against Tatsumaki, how powerful Orochi's Gaia Cannon is, how much power Garou would need to chop the Sage Centipede in half, how powerful Monster Garou was pushing the Earth's core, what kind of power God even gave to Homeless Emperor and Garou, and how big the hole in my heart was after Genos died. Also, I know this doesn't have to do with science, but I love the almost mythic artwork Murata gave the fight. The silhouette of Saitama looking down at Garou on Jupiter, like a god staring down at a mortal; the image of him alone on Jupiter, holding the core of his closest friend; heck, the image of Saitama defeating Garou before they fought (12:57) could have come from Ancient Greek pottery. I'm just saying, listening to some God of War music in the background while reading these chapters will change your life.
@@caseyb1346 I edited it, but I feel like if you watch a video about the latest chapters in a manga, including plot details, you should expect spoilers in the comments
Well, for simple decapitations, we could look at long-drop hangings to get a rough estimate of how much energy you'd need to more or less reliably pull off someone's head. A force of around 1,260 lb-ft (approx. 1.7kJ) will break your neck and can, on occasion, result in decapitation; this is what happened to the likes of Black Jack Ketchum in 1901 and Eva Dugan in 1930. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch (no pun intended) to assume that, if one were to double the amount of energy (so, about 3.4kJ) put on to the neck of a person, you could more or less reliably decapitate them, depending on the strength of the tendons and muscles in their necks. To put that into perspective, a karate expert can exert around 0.4kJ in a single punch, only a little under what you'd get from being shot with a .45 ACP. To get the amount of energy needed to (more or less) reliably rip off someone's head, you'd have to exert an amount of energy roughly equivalent to that of a .450 Bushmaster round (which sits around 3.7kJ).
I personally think that Saitama went through the same portal that Garou went through only because that’s what it implies looking at what’s read and the image itself. I think garou was surprised That he was able to make it through the portal in time. Another big hint is that he was able to stop directly behind Garou, which wouldn’t happen if he farted there But would make more sense if he went through the portal
@@thedukeconiosantiago9180 Yeah that’s because the portal closed after Saitama followed Gauro into it which is the same reason why you don’t see the portal behind Gauro💀
@@thiexony514 that makes no sense cause saitama would be in the next shot right behind garou. So for now we gotta see the anime and have to stick with the fart feat and speed.
4:48 I assumed this meant the force of the punch was strong enough to wipe of all light coming from that direction. Was it the intention? Probably not, they may have meant for it to mean they are destroying stars. But the interpretation that they can just punch light waves away is still very wacky
if the punch let out a shit ton of mass off his fist and that travelled in that direction I guess theoretically it could be enough to bend the light around it I'm pretty sure
I read somewhere that doing that is alone more impressive than destroying some stars, "To influence light, you need either light that has the perfect polar opposite wave pattern, gravitational pull that rivals Black Holes, or a force backed by dense particles that can undo Black Holes." So basically, the serious punch squared was black hole+ level.
@Wind Rose Well I mean, they got launched away immidiently upon landing the Serious Punch squared so they probably didn't see the aftermath, but yeah, I think the main focus was that it looked cool
My favorite part is that Kyle says farts don't have a lot of mass, when opm had the sneeze power to blow away half of jupiter. I get the feeling that fart had enough mass to do what needed to be done.
@@Goofyjigga360 people somehow just like to downplay Saitama for no reason, like if any other characters do it it's ok,but if it's opm that does it they won't accept that an anime do anime things and it somehow needs to follow science and logic 😂,like back then before Saitama and garou's fight, they seriously think Saitama is just planetary and can't go above that lmao
Despite all the physics-breaking attacks Saitama throws out, I'm more impressed with how Garou has managed to survive multiple of Saitama's serious punches even though he's supposed to be the "One Punch Man"
He is only when he wants. He always one punches any1 that isn't a human or interesting. Boros and Orochi were interesting, Garou is a human and he said he wouldn't kill him.
What scientist368 said. Also, as evidenced by a lot of stuff, one of the things Saitama wanted the most after having broken his limiter, is challenge. After this many years of One-Punching, there's finally an enemy who can survive some of his punches, without him holding back too much - naturally, Saitama would savor the feeling of even fight as much as possible, rather than beat Garou instantly.
Absolutely, Garou is the strongest opponent Saitama has faced. On top of that though, we also have many example of Saitama being able to control the output of his attacks, as he has defeated relatively normal humans without killing them either. Saitama also asks Tareo if he wants him to "stop him" but without killing him, which Tareo confirms. So somehow, despite the sheer force of Saitama and Garou's attacks, Saitama knew that he wasn't landing fatal blows on Garou. Especially considering the Jupiter feat, I think it's safe to say that had Saitama actually wanted to kill Garou at any point, he would have done so.
I still think erasing his memory was genius. One allowed saitama to hit a level of power people only talked about as a joke, an now we know its possible, but at the same time wont happen again for awhile. We got to see what could happen, and why saitama cant be allowed to use his actual strength.
Never thought a shounen satirical manga could teach me nuclear physics and astronomy better than my teachers but here we are. EDIT: Io's was pretty much shattered when Saitama fart-propelled himself, so maybe the gravity was less?
I think Io being gravitationally unbound wouldn't change it's mass, so the gravity it generated would be pretty much the same in the moment of the fart. At least until the debris has some time to disperse.
Yes, the fart may have been faster than light. An alternative explanation would be, however, that you underestimated its mass. Just putting that out there.
In a relativistic universe superluminal speed is synonymous with time travel. Given that mere moments later Saitama manages a time travel feat I don't think it's a huge stretch I don't know how familiar you are with the series but FTL farts expelled by Saitama sounds very "One Punch Man" to me
Wouldn't the fact the fart is approaching the speed of light also increase its mass? Thus, the fart would not actually need to hit the speed of light; instead, just get close enough so its mass becomes so great that it can easily propel the now lighter Saitama forward.
Considering that his body is near indestructible, the mass of the fart could be much much higher than what you have used for the equation. Saitama said he has been holding it in, so who knows how much gas is being contained within him.
I dont get why his farts have to obey the laws of physics when he can literally reverse time, undo causality, casually yeet hyperspace portals. He’s literally like a higher dimensional being
Saitama's Serious Sneeze is WAAAAY more over the top than he's been given credit for. Plenty of people run the numbers to figure out how hard it would be to blow away Jupiter's atmosphere but... Has anyone even considered how much force would be required to blow away half of Jupiter's atmosphere with just a human sized breath?
Idk but one time i tried to calculate how much joules boros had in his meteoric burst form to kick saitama on the moon considering it took exactly 3.5 seconds I ended up with a number that starts with 4 and has like 17 digits after, before the decimal Smth like this 4,247*10^17 joules
@@-S4T That's exactly what I mean. What ONE does for comedy just becomes even sillier when you really look at it. Then there's the whole, "We just erased an entire quadrant of the night sky in a single punch at massively FTL speed" thing.
The time-travel scene may actually have a more reasonable (and more scientifically interesting) justification than the super-luminal fart does. It specifically mentions that the matter and anti-matter particles in and around Garou's and Saitama's bodies begin to mimic each other, essentially switching behaviors. Since Saitama is made of terrene-matter particles, that means the mass that makes up his body would begin to act like the anti-matter particles. And one of the current mainstream theories for how anti-matter particles behave suggests they actually move *backwards* through time, rather than forwards. So if the matter of Saitama's body begins to act like it's made of anti-matter, it might actually move backwards through time, just like we see in the manga, until they resume normal behavior.
But by moving back in time and stopping it from ever happening would leave a paradox. Because then he’d never have fought him to the point of receiving said move, never traveling in time so it never happened.
@@StripedJacket yeah but genos in his long ass speech mentions a convergence. So the Saitama who time traveled is technically from a different parallel universe.
Another thing i want to point out, back when the aliens were attacking, before reaching Boros he fought Geryganshwoop, and he used black hole gravity as an attempt to stop saitama, but it had so little effect that when he wasn't serious, that he was able to reach up and scratch his face, WHILE STILL BEING PULLED DOWN BY BLACK HOLE GRAVITY!
When Tornado tries to throw Saitama with her powers she can't lift him, she states that he is ridiculously heavy. Obviously not mass, just his willpower meaning he can't be moved by someone else.
Many people seem to be downplaying that void left by the serious punch^2 by saying nothing actually got destroyed, that it was a black hole, or distortion of light (all head canon btw). If Murata wanted to depict a black hole, he would have drawn the iconic light distortion effect around it. Instead he is showcasing destructive capabilities of the two most powerful beings in the universe trading punches at faster than light speed. He chose to do so by depicting a massive cold spot/ void in the universe being left from their clash. The serious punch^2, is meant to be destructive force in existence, more powerful than a gamma ray burst according to Garou, who had gained all knowledge of how energy flows in the universe. If it doesn’t decimate everything in its path after being concentrated into a beam and fired into space, than that betrays the over the top spectacle of the Manga.
Yeah I do agree, even though Saitama is not Omnipotent and Boundless and a Gag Character, he's still very powerful and has far exceeded the ability to destroy Earth by possibly Quadrillions of times.
@@bwahchannel9746 so, it doesn't change the fact that in new chapter 169 the hole was literally reforming, and it the manga condition already confirms they did indeed destroy billions of star during their fight process.
That doing some actual scientific number crunching and finding out how much of this shockingly checks out mathematically brings a whole new level of respect for the insanity of ONE & Murata's work.
During the fart science (lol), I assumed Saitama and Garou were just floating far above the surface of Io since it got shattered twice over, and Saitama only propelled himself forward a few meters in microgravity since Garou was just in front of him. That'd require a much more realistic velocity I think.
I think you're all reading waaaay too hard into this. Lmao Saitama literarly managed to see the back of his head in a mirror BEFORE he was bald. He was just starting to bald and he could already do it back then (he wanted to check the back of his head cuz it was freaking him out).
"every action has an equal but opposite reaction" When Saitama sneezed away Jupiter, they were also propelled back towards the Sun and Earth but their trajectories were off as all of these celestial bodies move. Thus Garou had to push Saitama to the Sun and create a portal to Earth.
@@destruct0503 That very clearly did not goddamn happen. In the page before Garou punched Saitama with a nuclear fission punch, we still see Jupiter being blown away in the bottom right corner.
The rocket equation you used didn't account for relativistic effects! I took the liberty of recalculating the thrust velocity of the farts, taking the relativistic equation for momentum and I got 98.64% of the speed of light. Pretty fast anyway! Particle accelerator worthy speeds :)
I've been reading a lot of Touhou lately, and it too uses sciencey topics in the plots quite often. For instance: they moved Hell to a new location, and basically turned the old one into a big nuclear fusion reactor. It's powered by a crow with the power of a sun god (she controls both fusion and fission), managed by a scheming wind god, and fuelled by a cat that brings especially bad corpses down there. The blend of very straightforward physics mixed with wild Japanese mythology and folklore makes for a very interesting setting!
And that's just one particular game. There's also the exact calculation of the length of the spacial anomaly that is the Higan River, the other space-time anomaly of Gensokyo itself, and a lotta stuff that happens in the Hifuu CDs (Among a lotta things). Iirc, ZUN studied Mathematics in college, which probably explains some of it.
@@rishiy6183 actually several! They're all done by different artists, and the tone varies between each, but all the ones I've read so far have been great. You get a much better feel for the characters than in the games
11:39 But you can see the portal, so considering he has some mass in his fart, he can get in the portal with almost no power at all. The portal is right in front of him so maybe with some speed he can get in pretty quickly; since he is the OPM. Great episode nonetheless!
Never did I think I would see opm covered here but man that was good. Happy to see one kept up the satire to the very end. Dudes honestly been one of the inspirations to me artistically. Because you have cases like him and Yabako Sandrovrich from kengan ashura, they are amazing writers that are amateur artists and are able to break into the mainstream when others adapt their ideas in a form that more can enjoy. One is an even cooler case because he kept up his drawing and actually came into his own with mob psycho one hundred. To me it's a "hey bro you got this, we all start somewhere".
What you didn't consider also might be that the amount of gas released by saitama seems pretty great in the panel. In fact, with Saitama's constitution, you could consider his ability to hold his farts to be significantly greater than a standard human being. With the high-speed power leveling, in fact, the level of pressure the gas inside his body could reach without leaking out could be plasmic, or beyond. There might be several thousand times more gas inside his body than you'd ordinarily think.
I actually went to catch up to the manga so I can watch this video. It was insanely cool, thanks Kyle for reminding me to read the last 20-ish chapters. Had a blast (you know if you know) Also, as a space and art nerd, I have to give it to Murata who illustrated all of the space scenes soooooo well.
So I am an admitted power scaler on Reddit, and it's purely because of videos like this. I just enjoy the act of thinking about all the physics involved or consciously absent related to superpowers.
The beautiful art in these chapters was as next level as the storytelling and satire. I, CAN NOT, wait to see this animated. Thank you Kyle for breaking down these broken physics!
@Muhammad Hanzo Same reason Berserk hasn't had a decent adaptation since forever. Moving images are harder to do than still images. Plus extra hard animating PERFECTLY drawn still images.
10:08 Garo didn’t spot Earth from Io, the sneeze “recoil” launched Saitama and Garo in the opposite direction, they were actually passing Mars probably, when Garo noticed the sun and then he located Earth and teleported.
I have not read the manga for context, but I wonder if the "hole in the stars" could just be some sort of gravitational anomaly, causing light to bend in such a way that nothing appears to be behind it.
Doubt it that explosions Creates force it would dumb if all it did was light bending he wanted to show a void for a reason there’s also a void just like that in the universe must have implied that this had the same effect .
I’m inclined to agree. The punch may have very well just sent the photons backwards rather than actually putting a hole in the stars. Light has a physical effect on objects, and if you could condense a pressure enough, you could technically ‘slow down’ light(photons) Which would line up with your hypothesis. He didn’t erase the stars, he slowed their light from reaching his pov.
In the panel where the stars disappear I think just the photons got destroyed/displaced from the blast, thus creating a black spot since that light no longer reaches us. Instead of the actual stars being destroyed.
10:10 Gotta love the continuity of OPM with the semi-destroyed moon from Saitama's previous earth destroying opponent. Though the mild critique would be that the moon faces the earth in the same direction all the time and the crater should be facing Earth.
Pretty sure he already did this long ago when "stopping" his punch in front of Genos' face not only didn't harm him but also obliterated a mountain behind Genos
@@concept5631 I believe this is what is implied. At least in the anime. The scene shows Saitama going in for the punch, than we see him get in front of Genos, and then you see the gust of wind blow into the scene behind Saitama. So yes Saitama got in front of his attack.
I can't put into words how happy i am this video exists. So far the best opm chapters to date then kyle hill breaks down the science i nerd out about myself. Life is pretty good these days folks
Mans saw that one DC comic book panel where Darkseid shot Orion with a bullet that travels through time and was like: "Bet! How about a 'Punch from the Past'? I'll do you one better with 'Rocket Farts'! This one is for nuking my country you damn Americans!"
4:44 i conject that his attack is traveling at the speed of light directly away from its point of origin, in a very pointy cone. the attack is powerful enough to redirect every photon it hits to be traveling in the same direction. the stars , from our perspective, have been wiped from existence. objectively, we are in the shadow of Gabriel's Trumpet
For the fart thing at around 12min, I don’t know your numbers but bear in mind that special relativity would start taking effect. I did some calculations where I set the Newtonian equation with your number to the relativistic kinetic energy equation, cancelled out the mass, and got a value of .9986c, decidedly subluminal.
Omg, this is my S/O's worse fear. He's literally a bodybuilder and in the army, but sometimes when he's stressed, his hair thins in the crown. Looks like I've got another video to share with him.
I'm so happy you made this video. One Punch Man is my favorite manga right now and I am so hyped for each chapter!the conclusion to the Garou arc was amazing!
I for one think that OPM's punch contained enough energy that it warped spacetime, causing a gravitational wave effect that moved faster than light and created that hole in the stars.
This is the kind of breakdown of One Punch Man I've been wanting..... I've been thinking about the science of the manga since I started seeing "Gods" feet and the physics behind Blast and some of his powers since I watched MAstars reviews of it.
As a “power-scaling dork,” I feel very called out When it comes to scaling/debating fiction, people and objects with mass moving faster than light is just kind of something you have to accept. 99.9% of the time the writers couldn’t care less about their works being realistic, and in OPM’s case we’re even outright told that Flashy Flash, a character who at this point in the story has been outdone many times over, is capable of moving faster than light. A lot of the calculations you did here for the various feats have all been done by other power scalers, with varying results. A couple examples: The Serious punch^2 has several different calc versions, but the most agreed upon one puts the feat at requiring 1.11 zettafoe of energy (Which for those who don’t know what foe means, translates to the serious punch^2 containing more energy than 1 sextillion supernovae) and speeds around 171.5 trillion times faster than light A calc of Saitama flipping Io’s crust using KE resulted in ~869 Nonillion joules (Which in comparison to your version, increases the power from merely turning the Earth’s crust to molten lava to destroying the planet altogether) of energy and ~8 octillion kilograms of force I don’t remember what kind of results the serious sneeze got, but Saitama jumping around the fragments of Io got speeds of bare minimum 8,000 C Also calling the serious sneeze the most ridiculous feat of power right after we see Saitama and Garou obliterating a massive amount of stars felt a little strange
I wanted to include links to the calcs in question, but TH-cam keeps eating my comments when I include them As for the methods used; The serious punch^2 calc took the distance to the furthest visible Star from Earth and used inverse square law to determine how much energy an explosion that large would need to have Star busting power at the very edge (And the speed comes from assuming the feat happened over 3 seconds. There were other ends that assumed other timeframes, but the 3 second end was the one that ended up being agreed on) The Io flip measured the distance the debris flew using Io as a ruler and assuming a timeframe of 5 seconds to get the kinetic energy of the flung crust And for Saitama jumping around Io the person who did the calc measured out all the visible lines, (Which looked like pure pain) compared them to Io for scale, doubled it to account for the lines on the other side of the satellite we couldn’t see, and used a few different timeframes based on a few different assumptions (The most conservative timeframe and the one that was agreed upon was the same timeframe as the one we were explicitly told for a very similar feat Garou and Platinum Sperm performed earlier)
@@soupywolf5234 for the serious punch one that's already innacurate, as blast and his team redirected it as a beam instead of an explosion, they also used vector manipulation to condense it so explosions calculations don't work here The crust one really just depends on your personal opinion, but I think Kyle's is more accurate. As for the ping pong one, you would need to account for Io being smaller, as well as the fact that saitama must have applied minimal force to the debris as not all the pieces he jumped off of were shot away into space. This suggests it was more similar to him bouncing off them much like he did to Garou with one of his punches, meaning that it wouldn't be a viable speed feat in his favot
Not really sure what to tell you on this one, I didn’t do the calc and I don’t know the specifics, just that square cube law was used If I’m not mistaken, Kyle’s version used GPE while the other version used KE, I personally wouldn’t say either is more or less accurate, though I agree that this is really up to your own opinion on which to use The calc used Io as a ruler for the distance, also Iirc Saitama was pretty openly stated to have been jumping between the rock fragments using his sheer speed, the fragments not flying out into space is just more “fiction doesn’t give two shits about being realistic”
4:40 you missed the hole in the moon exposing "something" that's the direct result of Saitama's actions in a previous arc. If you hit a sphere, a lot of the force will be proportionally directed on the other side. Hit a glass sphere, and you'll make a pin-prick hole in the front, whilst shattering the back.
8:55 Now calculate the physics based on the average size of a human sneeze. How fast and how hot would those molecules be? Though can we even call them molecules or atoms at this point...
Loved the video! (OPM is my favorite anime/manga and I also love numbers) However, I wanted to bring up a couple minute oversights regarding the calculations surrounding the "Serious Sneeze". 1. The sneeze originated on Io, Io is approx. 262,000 miles away from Jupiter. 2. The force from that sneeze would have to travel the ~262,000 miles through the vacuum of space (not to mention leaving one atmosphere and entering another) Of course if this was all calculated in then just ignore this.
YES!! I was hoping for this when I read the chapters. There's an extra chapter when he is trying to see the back of his head in a mirror by turning around very fast
I have an alternate proposition for the hole in the stars. It isn't necessarily that he blasted the stars away. He could have just blasted the light coming from that region of space away and thus making it look like it's empty.
Could the "hole in the stars" be(retconned into) a gravitational anomaly so great that it is bending the light around it making it look like a hole in the stars?
Why would you want it to be something that lame? It’s the serious punch^2 the most destructive force in the entire universe and you want it to merely “bend light” Hell no they punched a hole in the universe and that is final.
@@quikskoprbro968 that would still mean creating a gravitational field similar to or stronger than a black hole. That's how interpreted it anyway, because destroying the stars would not have prevented their light from reaching the earth. They would have kept on shining for millions of years after they were destroyed, because their previous light is still on its way. He may have also destroyed the stars, but for the panel to make sense, he would have had to have specifically affected the light coming from the stars, not just the stars themselves.
4:43 When I saw that panel I thought for a moment the same thing, it was ridiculous, but I don't think ONE would do an absurd thing like that so what I think this shows is not disappearing stars but either the energy released somehow affected the spacetime portion and it started bending light as a black hole, or the energy actually blasted out the light coming from the stars, which I know also sounds ridiculous but more reasonable than actually hitting stars million light years far from us in the blink of an eye.
Yeah because Fiction can definitely follow the rules of Real Life Physics, just like how Humans can turn into giant monsters able to destroy Buildings and Cities and how a guy can train until he's able to beat people 5× bigger than him with no effort or a guy who can absorb a fraction of the power from literal God, and the fact that there's an actual God there and just look at Tatsumaki, there's nobody alive who looks that damn beautiful and who has Psychic powers. Plus many Humans have done the exact same workout as Siatama and broke their limiters by pushing their body and they didn't gain the ability for Infinite Potential like a damn Saiyan, if only, then I would've been a lot more powerful a long time ago. Fiction doesn't always have to follow reality and this kind of setting can take some leniency with its powers.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Well considering it just used physics to explain things, I'd say it follows enough of it. FFS people are planted on the ground, that means gravity at least exists in its simplistic understanding.
@@pillarmenn1936 yeah obviously but I meant that people can move FTL and have enough power to destroy Planets, stars and Solar Systems, a *_*Little*_* bit of leniency is fine when it comes to the Physics of the manga, yeah you can apply real world physics but when it comes to the things that exceed the expectations and limits of our Physics then it's perfectly fine since it's fiction.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki I understand the point, "everything" is possible in a Fictional story, but even Fiction follows basic rules of storytelling, you cannot throw a bunch of nonsense in the story just pretending that people buys it because "it's fiction, anything is possible". You have to build the way up there, explain the rules of that world, so there are not plot holes or deus ex machina; therefore you can definitely make a story where the character breaks the fundamental rules of physics, but you need to explain how it was possible, and yet Saitama doesn't break the rules, he just defies those rules, not even the fart thing broke physics, as another guy said in another comment doing the right calculations. Destroying stars million years away from us in just a second is something that simply doesn't make sense, not even for OPM universe, but obviously this is up for interpretation. We'd need to wait for a confirmation from the actual creator, hopefully from the Anime 😭
@@winterfellwhall9934 ....he sneezed a planet to dust A sneeze There's no use in pretending that the rules of physics are actual rules in this universe dude
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At 4:37 the panel shows the dark side of the moon which cannot have Saitama's crater from his fight with Boros because the same side of the moon always faces earth. It is also shown again at 10:19.
Thanks for calculating
You were awesome because you make science fun. You went into Legendary status just now.
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Kyle. At 12:00 I think it is more likely that saitama simply just jumped into space and then used his fart to further increase his speed. Saitama has already shown himself to be strong enough to simply just jump into space.
At least you only linked the manga in a comment so if they DMCA over it, it's a comment thats gone not the video.
Saitama sneezing away the entire surface of Jupiter and exposing its core is one of the most badass panels and mind blowing panels I’ve seen in a manga. The whole time traveling feat was just the icing on the cake for me.
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Simply... Murata.
Don't forget that despite how he appears, Saitama has an innate genius level of understanding of physics. In his fight against Boros he only had to casually throw a small rock 1 feet in the air to instantly know how much power he would need to jump back from the moon not only to reach earth, but to land exactly back on Boros' ship taking into account earth's rotation and the Moon's orbital motion.
Ikr? Saitama, despite him not using any of many techniques in the OPM universe, or even developing his own, has perfect control of his mass, momentum and force. He doesn't often use it, because he can beat his most of his opponents with no effort, but when he does it's a treat to read or watch.
I didn't see that at all, was that stated?? All I saw was that he threw a rock up to see the low Gravity effect and thought it was cool but since he needs Oxygen in order to breathe he just jumped right back and since it's fiction and Murata doesn't have a genius level Quantum Physics degree, he thought it would look cool and that it would be efficient that he just landed back in the same spot.
Even if Siatama thought about all of the Physics behind his jump Murata certainty didn't.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki the anime didn't put any dialogue in the entire entire moon jumping sequence, but the manga had some inner monologues of Saitama about mentioning about moon's gravitational pull compared to Earth and whatnot
@@tanvirlabib8160 really?? I've not been able to read that chapter, one of the Three that weren't on the site that I read from.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Supes also needs oxygen to breath, in space but since he can store air like high pressure tanks, I'll bet Saitama can do it too......
The ideal rocket equation doesn't factor in relativistic exhaust velocity, right? If the fart travels at a significant fraction of the speed of light, it will increase its mass, thus increasing its thrust. A mere 98.7% c would result in a 6.1x relativistic mass, thus providing the necessary dt v (ideal rocket equation with its ln may have something to say about that, but I'm just conceptualizing)
Mass does not increase with speed. "Apparant Mass" is what increases, but the rest mass never ever changes.
@@prich0382 that is right but i think the rocket formula works with apparent mass, as it is not relativistic on itself
What if the fart was not really an average fart?
Yes relatively does come into play here, there is no upper limit on the impulse an object can carry, regards of resting mass. The statement in the video is sadly wrong
@@qcubic ...he shidded?
I feel that a fart that strong would probably incite fusion and create an enormous nuclear fireball too.
Creating an internal pressure enough to crush several suns and enveloping the surface of whichever the fart got in contact with heat so hot that it just disappears instantly.
Nah he's just replenishing the gaseous atmosphere of Jupiter
I feel that if someone could produce a fart that travels 6 times faster than the speed of light, they wouldn’t take off from a celestial body, they’d fire the celestial body away from themselves. XD
What if Saitama serious scream?
@@kagetsuki23 ooohhh that's a feat not yet discovered
One of the things I like about OPM is that it takes the idea that completely overpowered or 'broken' characters are boring to read about and kill stories unless you make everyone else even more awesome to overshadow them. Saitama is literally so strong he can take out anything or anyone...but he's still an interesting character with an interesting setting
It is because he knows just how OP he is and it disappoints him. we feel bad for him with some of the fights he finished too quickly. Plus his 'hey, I have done that!' moments like with the sale at the grocery store.
i really enjoy the first seasons take on existential dread as OPM had no one strong enough to fight him and i guess is in a "depressed" state. reminds me how how i feel when helping a friend in a game and im at max level killing everything with ease and getting bored of no challenge.
also the side characters are really cool
Can he beat Popeye though?
They call this or at least I do the Superman problem. Superman can't be "defeated" but its how he solves problems and or how he interacts with the cast that makes his stories interesting or boring power fantasies.
Of all the crazy feats Saitama pulled off in this chapter I never imagined him propelling himself with a fart would be the most impossible one
It's not just a fart, it's a serious fart.
@@pongangelo2048 Of his serious series.
That would take some serious beans to give Saitama such serious gas!
@@CesarinPillinGaming im suprised shid didnt come out
Or table-flipping IO's crust.
Good to see Kyle achieving the peak scientific form: a power scaler
Truly
He got the Fart math wrong tho. Saitama's body is full of energy. Like Lifeforce as it was explained earlier by the green haired girl, so his farts are under immense pressure, as confirmed by the animation. It was far from a normal fart.
And it also seems he farted into garou's portal and not across space.
@@joshanonline his fart math is close and his fart wasn’t life energy he stated in the manga that while he was in space he got a “stomachache from the cold” chapter 168
And tatsumaki wasn’t talking about saitama fart when she was saying the life force she was knocked out during the time he did that
And the fart is debatable I don’t think he farted all the way there but he did sneeze from Jupiter to the sun and farted back to earth
I have been an anime fan since o was very young, and I have always disliked power scalers. Its stupid
@@TheHighborn It’s fun.
I feel the need to point out that you skipped the fact that Garou’s punches were equivalent to Gamma ray bursts which are the MOST POWERFUL NATURAL PHENOMENON IN THE OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE
There are also quasars
well i dont think that would work for someone who fucking sneezed so hard that he blew surface off of fucking jupiter! also edit: 10:44 (dark souls boss music) one punch man: the unchained.
Of course there is unnatural phenomena, like the collapse of Collumb's law
If it was anywhere near as powerful as a real gamma ray burst then the entire solar system would be gone from how close it was
@@wolvreigns It annihilated an incalculable amount of stars, leaving a hole in the cosmos.
This is anime. What'd you expect?
I think OPM also kicked a spatial anomaly, a literal loony toon hole, away. He didn't destroy it by overload or anything. He kicked it like just another normal object, like a ball or an empty can on the roadside.
Translation called it a "hyperspace" portal, just a portal that in between space or something.
I'm pretty sure it's hinting the fact that Saitama is an extra dimensional being maybe the same as god, he's already accidentally broken into another dimension that literally happens in the mind.
@@ValidT and gogeta broke through a super dimension, (super dimension was the official translation for what Broly and Gogeta were fighting in when everything cracked
@@ValidT That wouldnt make him a higher dimensional being, that just shows he has magic nullification or resistance
@@Chris_HT dude magic doesn’t exist in one punch man instead of a magical portal it’s a hole in the space-time that travels to different dimension, and Saitama grabbed that hole in space-time and moved it, which doesn’t make any sense
4:55 I interpreted that hole in the stars like this; the energy literally wiped out every photon that were coming from that direction from those stars. It didn't destroy them, the blast simply wiped out everything coming from that direction, including light.
I like this take
I imagined the force of his fist somehow reflected all the photons in that cone, similar to how a black holes gravitational field would bend the light. Because even if he had destroyed the stars, their light would still keep traveling for years and years.
@@PiiskaJesusFreak sounds good to me. Any other explanation than "he destroyed 1-10% of the universe" is good.
Yeah that was my first take on it too.
But y'all do realize that when that blast does reach those galaxies and stars it will still incinerate them
As a long time OPM reader I can't fully express how cool it is to see you, my favourite sciency (fellow) nerd dive into this.
Funny thing is that, when first reading them, I had been contemplating the same moments that you've mentioned here.
Thanks for being you, Kyle.
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the other problem is that the panel for Serious Fart is a bit poorly presented, since Saitama is supposed to have just used the Gravity Knuckle gate to get back to earth behind Garou, which is why he comments about Garou's aim
This is such a fun video! Awesome stuff!
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11:47 I think you could assume in this case with all his powers he is also able to push more than the average amount of gas out. Perhaps about 6x more?
But he was also pushed back by nuclear fission fist so he overcame momentum of that also while farting ,so that has to be accounted too
Or perhaps some solid waste matter flew out without him realising... never trust a fart.
@@Grim712 saitama zero punched garou with a poopy butthole
@@Grim712 was about to write this. yeaaaah... and also. that gas/mass is going somewhere... did it hit the moon he left?... what happened to that then..
@@-Big_Big we don't talk bout destructive space logs
I really love the fact that Cosmic Garou is actually deadly just by his presence.
Nah, weeaboos do the same thing when they don't shower in 3 weeks.
@@pandamilkshake damn
And I want to know why his prescence can't do anyting to Saitama 🤣🤣🤣
@@boomertraveller4975 Because Saitama can't be damaged by anything except the common house cat, obviously
he can even do literal nuclear attack from his fist.
he is embodiment of energy flow of universe afterall. being avatar of god who is universal
It is one of the things I love about One Punch Man. It's a childish silliness and simplicity that makes me go, " that's just stupid and I love it."
Same lol
yea it's just one of those "turn my brain off and just enjoy the cool ass actions and beautiful panels"
I love how saitama always respond to the most bullshitful power feats or anything with a punch or two
My favorite part about this is how knowing the exact way in which these feats are “scientifically impossible” only serves to make them more impressive. It really helps to put a number on it.
I mean, not really. Knowing how something is impossible makes it more absurd but not more impressive. It ruins the story if you try to imagine how people moving faster than light can see each other given that sight is based on perceiving photons, which “only” move at the speed of light.
@@sigiligusyou're thinking too much, it's anime.
It's why OPM *_looks_* more impressive relative to things like DBZ or Naruto. ONE and Murata didn't have to go this hard with the physics, but they did, and OPM is all the better for it.
@@sigiligusThis is a really late reply, however
To explain this, breaking your limtier esentially allows your body to do things are physically impossible
We get a panel that states that Garou's synapses are spending up alongside his speed which implies his brain is evolving to keep up with his increasing speed, so the same could be applies to his eyes, given that a person with no limiter can interact with interdimensional portals I would say his eyes working without photon interaction is possible lol
Saitama literally went into Pheonix space (Spiritual place) and kicks inter dimension portal. Dude so OP that he defies physical and spiritual logic.
That's true of most powerful comic characters in general, though.
Too weak to overcome amnesia, though :(
@@peronkop you wish
@@peronkop i think that's just how multiverse works on his verse, unlike dbz where the verse can multiply.
@@Slappaccino Op
Why would the redirected attack leaving the hole in the star field need to travel faster than the speed of light? It'd just have to obliterate all photons traveling towards us from that direction. Would that not create a void as depicted? The stars and galaxies are still there, just their light is gone for a bit.
oh interesting point actually
Photons are wave-particle weirdness.
They can't be physically destroyed.
That’s the problem, we don’t know if the impact just obliterated the photons or it literally created a bootes void by destroying all stars and cosmic bodies. I’m leaning towards your question, mainly to make a bit more sense, but this is a satire gag manga so who knows.
@@feedback10x it doesn't even have to blow up stars the energy wave could have just reflected the light
Maybe the punch caused substantial refraction.🤔 It's still a stretch, especially since I don't know what medium that force would travel through in space. It might also be worth questioning what form of energy Saitama's attacks are emitting at this power level.
4:48 - Creating a "hole in the stars" could actually be possible if the blast's mass/energy were contained in a volume approaching the Schwarzschild radius (a kugelblitz, or close enough) -- the photons emanated from the stars in that direction would be pulled away from their original trajectories, deflected away or pulled inside the blast such they never reach our eyes on earth and thus creating the appearance of a section of the sky devoid of stars. The interesting thing is that over time (perhaps hours or years), the radius of this "dark spot" in the sky would continuously shrink as the blast itself moves away from us, and also move around a bit (from our perspective) due to parallax effects as the earth rotates and orbits the sun -- this would all provide some spectacular, variable gravitational lensing effects for astronomers to oogle at for decades to come.
I wish this was pinned.
no lmao stop coping it’s a manga. even flashy flash travels faster than the speed of light stop using science
@@pancake_consumer3225 i don't understand, why it being a manga should stop us from having fun thought experiments
@@shinkamui yes you can have fun but ur coping, he did destroy the stars. it’s just that psychics are different in opm verse
@@pancake_consumer3225 dude don't s*** on the guys Theory okay if he wants to write it let him, what you said was unnecessary
For those who are wondering why the chapters are numbered 170, 171 and 172 can be also be called 166, 167 and 168. The reason of that because Murata the author of the OPM manga redraws some of the chapters he already done after they are released. Meaning that sometimes he goes back to chapters he already released and make changes to them, which then will make them longer or shorter and therefore this will change the number of OPM chapters overall!
Anime only people when will never know how many redraws the manga readers have seen in the entire Monster Association arc.
That Phoenix Man vs Child Emperor fight for example, was like redrawn 5 times.
murata ain’t the author but basically yeah
@@GriseWeisshark bro he literally changed the course of the story a few times 😂
i think ITS kinda fun, Its like theres multiple timeline in OPM just like how garou and Saitama fight have 2 different outcome
ONE is the author, Murata is the artist
4:56 You mention this as a "hole in the stars" which is impossible given the speed of light. However, you also mentioned that the attack could have destroyed the planet instantly. Is it possible that an attack of that magnitude would also carry with it a gravitational force? Essentially creating a black hole (similar to a star imploding or greater)? Thus the lack of stars isn't a "hole in the stars", but rather an attack capable of emitting enough gravity to bend light?
That is what most people believe, which is still very impressive 'cause that means that the Serious Punch squared is Black Hole level or higher
Or simply it is the dark side of the moon
A black hole would cause lensing, which we don't see. It's a drawing of course, so they may have intended a black hole and just not thought of that. But the Interstellar image is in popular culture now so I doubt they would have left it like that if they wanted it to be a black hole.
A column of distorted space might work, with it shaped so that light is directed away from the viewer or red shifted out of the visible spectrum.
But given the shock value they were going for and Garou's later technique that lead to the Zero Punch, I think the most likely intent is that it created a wave of destruction traveling at the inverse of the speed of light so that it destroyed everything in that direction further and further back in time. So something a light-second away was destroyed a second ago, something a light year away was destroyed a year ago, etc. with expansion factored in proportionally.
@@Nulnhility But Garou was already throwing black hole powered punches also known as Gravity Knuckle. So that's underwhelming don't you think?
They wouldn't have shown the stars returning if they didn't actually get destroyed
Quick question: What if that planet busting blast wasn’t strong enough to “put a hole in the stars” but was strong enough to displace the light being emitted by those stars???
Idk if that would work. As they are very far away, there would still be light travelling from those stars to Earth, even if they did displace the nearby light. So it would probably take a very long time for the black spot to appear.
Could be a dark nebula
It just travelled faster than light
@@silversalmon9909 well the blast could be travelling at light speed (wouldn't be surprised), which would prevent any new light from getting to them
@@vanzwho854 I dont think so. If it was light speed, the light emitted from those stars just before the blast happened would still be travelling to earth. I dont remember how far away they were, but light from the sun takes 7 mins to get to us. If the sun just vanished, we wouldnt be able to tell for 7 minutes. They travelled WAY further away than the sun, so it could take millions of years for the black void to appear. But this is anime so it could be something wild like even faster than light speed.
5:10 we only know how much time it took from their perspective though. If they were traveling at a significant percent the speed of light (.99999c or faster) they would only experience a few seconds to what we as outside observers would consider 37min.
Theoretically
@@alexdurain3753 my man its a comic. theoretically anything is possible literally
Another possibility is that the force was able to warp the light from that area, momentarily wiping the vision of those stars from the sky by pushing all the photons out of the way. Essentially, they created a force mirror that the photons couldn't penetrate.
@@ayyyemate3131 That's awesome.
@@ayyyemate3131 no bro stop coping. in reversal of causality panel you can see those same stars back so murata did mean the stars to get destroyed
I'm pretty sure the whole point of opm is that he transcended all limits (even the limits of physics and all that other cool sciencey jazz) so he doesn't really care that it's actually impossible in any way shape or form
saitama just doesn't give a fuck
I mean, his title within the universe, based on the universe’s deity, is “The fist that defied god”.
Saitama is strong enough to make the god feel threatened and give Garou his glimpse of power to try to stop him
That was a misconstrued point made by the fandom based on the catchy title name.
The point of OPM was that it was a satire of putting an end-series shonen protagonist at the beginning of their series (like Ultra Instinct Goku vs Raditz).
Saitama broke his limiter so that he could go beyond human limitations, but he was never _absolutely_ limitless.
That's why Saitama got upset that he was back to one punch after fighting Boros, and that's also why as shown in this video, Saitama has a set power level (it increased at an exponential rate).
@@daenite2480 Yeah totally! I didn't really mean that's the point of the series, (bad wording) but just in the context of the video talking about how powerful he is.
My favorite OPM feat is still the moon jump, where Saitama gets blasted to the moon by Boros, uses a rock to judge the relative gravity, and then uses precisely the correct amount of force in exactly the right direction to land exactly where he originally got blasted from. What's the margin of error on that?
I can only imagine its goddamn tiny. think how much harder it is to throw a basketball to the hoop just from the other side of the court at 28 meters. he was 384,400KM away. and you have to take into account the moon's gravity and the rotation of the earth and so many other factors.
@@ghosthunter0950 Luckily the moon is tidally locked, so it's position doesn't change a huge amount over time. That being said, Boros' ship has a top surface area of like 138671.52 sqr km (according to Genos), and the moon is 384472.282 km away (assuming this). If we say that Boros' ship is effectively a circle from that distance, then he'd have room for error of about 210.0964 km (radius). If I did my trig right, he'd have to aim to within about 0.03131 degrees. But, he landed within a few km of Boros instead by the looks of it. So, let's say, 5 km. That would leave Saitama with a margin of error of 0.0007451 degrees instead.
That's assuming I did my math right.
@@masonjohnson4310 have u ever played kerbal ? :D
To be fair he could make adjustments after entering the atmosphere and with the speed he is going he could’ve reached probably anywhere within a few thousand kilometers
I honestly just thought that he was just playing with rocks because well saitama isnt always proven to be blatantly smart
No, what REALLY breaks physics is the fact that Kyle managed to fit all that hair into a bald cap.
Explain THAT science man!
probably has it tied up to the back and used simple video editing for any shots that show his hair still.
Hyperspace gate under that thing
nah bro he just said "fk off physics" and they just vanish.
he channeled his inner Michael from vsauce.
He was using a quantum wrapping. The same thing anime girls use to disguise their watermelon-size melons as washboard.
4:43 My theory is that it just blew all the photons coming from that direction away, basically it just pushed the light out the direction of the blast with the whatever energy resulting from the punch, not the stars themselves.
I mean... he can fart at 6x the speed of light... SO WHY THE HELL NOT lol
@@mscold8915 he doesn't fart faster than light, just got fast enough to get inside garou's portal
@@mscold8915 At the speeds close to c fart's mass would increase, and so does the momentum
I believed it too until they showed a panel of stars(or maybe galaxies) being stored during the causality punch
Restored*
I love how Kyle tried to make the math realistic by making it so that Saitama couldn’t travel faster than the speed of light. Until Saitama farted at 6x light speed, he just gave up.
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I need to let you all non manga readers know that despite being a satire manga, Garou is one of the best characters ever written in manga. His backstory, interactions, motivations, goals, and powers are absolutely fantastic and it's genuinely captivating to watch his character grow
I can’t wait to see more of him and what they do
Bruh, he is just well written amidst cardboard in opm
His webcomic version from chapter 81-94 was better than his manga counterpart imo. If you haven't read it, I highly recommend you do. The downgrade in art quality might be jarring at first, but the higher quality of writing makes up for it.
Plus you get to see more of him in a future arc that's not in the Manga in the WC.
@@tflees already did, it was alright
SPOILERS FOR OPM MANGA
Murata seems to love drawing larger than life feats. You could calc how much power it would take for Psykos to cut off a piece of the earth in her fight against Tatsumaki, how powerful Orochi's Gaia Cannon is, how much power Garou would need to chop the Sage Centipede in half, how powerful Monster Garou was pushing the Earth's core, what kind of power God even gave to Homeless Emperor and Garou, and how big the hole in my heart was after Genos died.
Also, I know this doesn't have to do with science, but I love the almost mythic artwork Murata gave the fight. The silhouette of Saitama looking down at Garou on Jupiter, like a god staring down at a mortal; the image of him alone on Jupiter, holding the core of his closest friend; heck, the image of Saitama defeating Garou before they fought (12:57) could have come from Ancient Greek pottery. I'm just saying, listening to some God of War music in the background while reading these chapters will change your life.
YOU BASTARD! YOU SPOILED ME! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I mean I probably was never going to actually read OPM but....dude, cmon.
@@caseyb1346 I edited it, but I feel like if you watch a video about the latest chapters in a manga, including plot details, you should expect spoilers in the comments
GENOS NO AGHHHHHHHHHHH
@@caseyb1346 cmon, dont be a troll....and if not, your fault
Kyle could you please break down the required forces needed for the mortal kombat finishers like tearing off heads and all that.
Well, for simple decapitations, we could look at long-drop hangings to get a rough estimate of how much energy you'd need to more or less reliably pull off someone's head. A force of around 1,260 lb-ft (approx. 1.7kJ) will break your neck and can, on occasion, result in decapitation; this is what happened to the likes of Black Jack Ketchum in 1901 and Eva Dugan in 1930. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch (no pun intended) to assume that, if one were to double the amount of energy (so, about 3.4kJ) put on to the neck of a person, you could more or less reliably decapitate them, depending on the strength of the tendons and muscles in their necks.
To put that into perspective, a karate expert can exert around 0.4kJ in a single punch, only a little under what you'd get from being shot with a .45 ACP. To get the amount of energy needed to (more or less) reliably rip off someone's head, you'd have to exert an amount of energy roughly equivalent to that of a .450 Bushmaster round (which sits around 3.7kJ).
ACG!! So cool to see one of my favorite gaming channel comment on another :)
I think there is an old episode about this?
@@Hagunemnon DECAPITATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!! (it had to be done)
@@Hagunemnon bro how do u know that
I personally think that Saitama went through the same portal that Garou went through only because that’s what it implies looking at what’s read and the image itself. I think garou was surprised That he was able to make it through the portal in time. Another big hint is that he was able to stop directly behind Garou, which wouldn’t happen if he farted there But would make more sense if he went through the portal
well he doesn't have the portal open
@@thedukeconiosantiago9180 it shows it was open when Saitama jumped.
@@thiexony514 then we get a bigger shot of his back and earth with the portal not being there.
@@thedukeconiosantiago9180 Yeah that’s because the portal closed after Saitama followed Gauro into it which is the same reason why you don’t see the portal behind Gauro💀
@@thiexony514 that makes no sense cause saitama would be in the next shot right behind garou. So for now we gotta see the anime and have to stick with the fart feat and speed.
4:48 I assumed this meant the force of the punch was strong enough to wipe of all light coming from that direction. Was it the intention? Probably not, they may have meant for it to mean they are destroying stars. But the interpretation that they can just punch light waves away is still very wacky
if the punch let out a shit ton of mass off his fist and that travelled in that direction I guess theoretically it could be enough to bend the light around it I'm pretty sure
I read somewhere that doing that is alone more impressive than destroying some stars, "To influence light, you need either light that has the perfect polar opposite wave pattern, gravitational pull that rivals Black Holes, or a force backed by dense particles that can undo Black Holes." So basically, the serious punch squared was black hole+ level.
I think that it is just the dark side of the moon
I like that interpretation quite a lot, thanks for sharing :)
@Wind Rose Well I mean, they got launched away immidiently upon landing the Serious Punch squared so they probably didn't see the aftermath, but yeah, I think the main focus was that it looked cool
The art is just on another level.
It has to be to be able to somewhat reflect the science involved.
My favorite part is that Kyle says farts don't have a lot of mass, when opm had the sneeze power to blow away half of jupiter. I get the feeling that fart had enough mass to do what needed to be done.
the void left by the punch could have erased the light coming from the stars and not the star themselves but yea this arc was so crazy
@Francesco Ghizzo gamma ray bursts can't destroy stars. They are not sensitive to them, unlike life.
I don’t think so,one was just trying to make the right look cool, and Saitama can destroy anything so why wouldn’t he destroy the stars.
@@Goofyjigga360 people somehow just like to downplay Saitama for no reason, like if any other characters do it it's ok,but if it's opm that does it they won't accept that an anime do anime things and it somehow needs to follow science and logic 😂,like back then before Saitama and garou's fight, they seriously think Saitama is just planetary and can't go above that lmao
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@@confusedcat261they’re scared of any proof rhat OPM might actually be stronger than superboy the asspull supreme
I think this is the most nerdy episode you've done. And it was very fun reading the manga too. Keep it up!
I almost thought one man punch broke through the 4th wall and took Kyle's hair 🤣🤣🤣
Saitama is so powerful that i wouldn't even doubt that he would do that
Despite all the physics-breaking attacks Saitama throws out, I'm more impressed with how Garou has managed to survive multiple of Saitama's serious punches even though he's supposed to be the "One Punch Man"
He is only when he wants. He always one punches any1 that isn't a human or interesting. Boros and Orochi were interesting, Garou is a human and he said he wouldn't kill him.
What scientist368 said. Also, as evidenced by a lot of stuff, one of the things Saitama wanted the most after having broken his limiter, is challenge. After this many years of One-Punching, there's finally an enemy who can survive some of his punches, without him holding back too much - naturally, Saitama would savor the feeling of even fight as much as possible, rather than beat Garou instantly.
I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about it
He promised a kid he wouldn’t kill garou so it makes sense
Absolutely, Garou is the strongest opponent Saitama has faced. On top of that though, we also have many example of Saitama being able to control the output of his attacks, as he has defeated relatively normal humans without killing them either.
Saitama also asks Tareo if he wants him to "stop him" but without killing him, which Tareo confirms. So somehow, despite the sheer force of Saitama and Garou's attacks, Saitama knew that he wasn't landing fatal blows on Garou.
Especially considering the Jupiter feat, I think it's safe to say that had Saitama actually wanted to kill Garou at any point, he would have done so.
I still think erasing his memory was genius. One allowed saitama to hit a level of power people only talked about as a joke, an now we know its possible, but at the same time wont happen again for awhile. We got to see what could happen, and why saitama cant be allowed to use his actual strength.
Never thought a shounen satirical manga could teach me nuclear physics and astronomy better than my teachers but here we are. EDIT: Io's was pretty much shattered when Saitama fart-propelled himself, so maybe the gravity was less?
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I think Io being gravitationally unbound wouldn't change it's mass, so the gravity it generated would be pretty much the same in the moment of the fart. At least until the debris has some time to disperse.
Like falfires already said, while Io was "shattered", the mass didn't go anywhere, so gravity wasn't any lesser.
Anyone know the music used in the intro?
Its about making it relatable, dry education in school sometimes is difficult to digest.
Yes, the fart may have been faster than light. An alternative explanation would be, however, that you underestimated its mass. Just putting that out there.
In a relativistic universe superluminal speed is synonymous with time travel. Given that mere moments later Saitama manages a time travel feat I don't think it's a huge stretch
I don't know how familiar you are with the series but FTL farts expelled by Saitama sounds very "One Punch Man" to me
Finally, the power to surpass the faster than light fart - the faster than light shart
Wouldn't the fact the fart is approaching the speed of light also increase its mass? Thus, the fart would not actually need to hit the speed of light; instead, just get close enough so its mass becomes so great that it can easily propel the now lighter Saitama forward.
Our baldy does eat ramen like everyday😂
So instead of a relativistic fart, it’s a relativistic *shart?*
Considering that his body is near indestructible, the mass of the fart could be much much higher than what you have used for the equation. Saitama said he has been holding it in, so who knows how much gas is being contained within him.
I don't know if you could takenit thay literal though
I dont get why his farts have to obey the laws of physics when he can literally reverse time, undo causality, casually yeet hyperspace portals. He’s literally like a higher dimensional being
@@_mystic_5653 He isnt really higher dimensional
@@Chris_HT yes it is and u know it
@@hectorgaona6418nice joke
Saitama's Serious Sneeze is WAAAAY more over the top than he's been given credit for.
Plenty of people run the numbers to figure out how hard it would be to blow away Jupiter's atmosphere
but...
Has anyone even considered how much force would be required to blow away half of Jupiter's atmosphere with just a human sized breath?
Idk but one time i tried to calculate how much joules boros had in his meteoric burst form to kick saitama on the moon considering it took exactly 3.5 seconds
I ended up with a number that starts with 4 and has like 17 digits after, before the decimal
Smth like this 4,247*10^17 joules
@@-S4T That's exactly what I mean. What ONE does for comedy just becomes even sillier when you really look at it. Then there's the whole, "We just erased an entire quadrant of the night sky in a single punch at massively FTL speed" thing.
The time-travel scene may actually have a more reasonable (and more scientifically interesting) justification than the super-luminal fart does.
It specifically mentions that the matter and anti-matter particles in and around Garou's and Saitama's bodies begin to mimic each other, essentially switching behaviors. Since Saitama is made of terrene-matter particles, that means the mass that makes up his body would begin to act like the anti-matter particles.
And one of the current mainstream theories for how anti-matter particles behave suggests they actually move *backwards* through time, rather than forwards.
So if the matter of Saitama's body begins to act like it's made of anti-matter, it might actually move backwards through time, just like we see in the manga, until they resume normal behavior.
But by moving back in time and stopping it from ever happening would leave a paradox. Because then he’d never have fought him to the point of receiving said move, never traveling in time so it never happened.
@@StripedJacket yeah but genos in his long ass speech mentions a convergence. So the Saitama who time traveled is technically from a different parallel universe.
@@StripedJacket Its a different universe. Not your classic time travel but the modern multiverse theory like time travel from marvel
Seriously?? Huh. I just thought it exploded lol
@@Greybit1 gotcha, that would fix it but then what would happen to the saitama in his own universe who’s got “time traveled”
Another thing i want to point out, back when the aliens were attacking, before reaching Boros he fought Geryganshwoop, and he used black hole gravity as an attempt to stop saitama, but it had so little effect that when he wasn't serious, that he was able to reach up and scratch his face, WHILE STILL BEING PULLED DOWN BY BLACK HOLE GRAVITY!
When Tornado tries to throw Saitama with her powers she can't lift him, she states that he is ridiculously heavy. Obviously not mass, just his willpower meaning he can't be moved by someone else.
Many people seem to be downplaying that void left by the serious punch^2 by saying nothing actually got destroyed, that it was a black hole, or distortion of light (all head canon btw). If Murata wanted to depict a black hole, he would have drawn the iconic light distortion effect around it. Instead he is showcasing destructive capabilities of the two most powerful beings in the universe trading punches at faster than light speed. He chose to do so by depicting a massive cold spot/ void in the universe being left from their clash. The serious punch^2, is meant to be destructive force in existence, more powerful than a gamma ray burst according to Garou, who had gained all knowledge of how energy flows in the universe. If it doesn’t decimate everything in its path after being concentrated into a beam and fired into space, than that betrays the over the top spectacle of the Manga.
Yeah I do agree, even though Saitama is not Omnipotent and Boundless and a Gag Character, he's still very powerful and has far exceeded the ability to destroy Earth by possibly Quadrillions of times.
Yes, I think people just can’t stand the idea of Saitama being that powerful.
Murata and one haven't confirmed what the hole was yet, so it's anyone's guess
@@seanao32 for real............
@@bwahchannel9746 so, it doesn't change the fact that in new chapter 169 the hole was literally reforming, and it the manga condition already confirms they did indeed destroy billions of star during their fight process.
That doing some actual scientific number crunching and finding out how much of this shockingly checks out mathematically brings a whole new level of respect for the insanity of ONE & Murata's work.
Yep, it's much better than the stuff we hear in other manga or comics like DC
During the fart science (lol), I assumed Saitama and Garou were just floating far above the surface of Io since it got shattered twice over, and Saitama only propelled himself forward a few meters in microgravity since Garou was just in front of him. That'd require a much more realistic velocity I think.
Propelled through the "wormhole gate" behind Garou before it closed?
I think you're all reading waaaay too hard into this.
Lmao Saitama literarly managed to see the back of his head in a mirror BEFORE he was bald. He was just starting to bald and he could already do it back then (he wanted to check the back of his head cuz it was freaking him out).
"every action has an equal but opposite reaction"
When Saitama sneezed away Jupiter, they were also propelled back towards the Sun and Earth but their trajectories were off as all of these celestial bodies move. Thus Garou had to push Saitama to the Sun and create a portal to Earth.
@@destruct0503 That very clearly did not goddamn happen. In the page before Garou punched Saitama with a nuclear fission punch, we still see Jupiter being blown away in the bottom right corner.
I never thought I would see a power scaling video on this channel. My life is complete.
The rocket equation you used didn't account for relativistic effects! I took the liberty of recalculating the thrust velocity of the farts, taking the relativistic equation for momentum and I got 98.64% of the speed of light. Pretty fast anyway! Particle accelerator worthy speeds :)
I've been reading a lot of Touhou lately, and it too uses sciencey topics in the plots quite often.
For instance: they moved Hell to a new location, and basically turned the old one into a big nuclear fusion reactor. It's powered by a crow with the power of a sun god (she controls both fusion and fission), managed by a scheming wind god, and fuelled by a cat that brings especially bad corpses down there.
The blend of very straightforward physics mixed with wild Japanese mythology and folklore makes for a very interesting setting!
And that's just one particular game. There's also the exact calculation of the length of the spacial anomaly that is the Higan River, the other space-time anomaly of Gensokyo itself, and a lotta stuff that happens in the Hifuu CDs (Among a lotta things).
Iirc, ZUN studied Mathematics in college, which probably explains some of it.
If normal humans r are stronger normal fairies then that would make them ftl
they also mentioned about cold fusion reactors in WaHH manga, which is pretty cool i would say.
Wait wdym read touhou, is there a manga or something?
@@rishiy6183 actually several! They're all done by different artists, and the tone varies between each, but all the ones I've read so far have been great. You get a much better feel for the characters than in the games
I really missed these type of episodes from Kyle. More please.
11:39 But you can see the portal, so considering he has some mass in his fart, he can get in the portal with almost no power at all.
The portal is right in front of him so maybe with some speed he can get in pretty quickly; since he is the OPM.
Great episode nonetheless!
Yeah almost no power at all, just countless time more than what is available on the universe I am sure.
Or maybe the ideal rocket equation stop making sense when come to relativistic speed
I love the manga. I know it’s deviated quite a bit from the webcomic regarding garou’s fight, but I nevertheless love this branched take on the series
I think One has a plan, he wouldn’t let anyone deviate too far without a plan to make it all work
@@ajfite1277 One is literally the one who deviated from it. He lays out the paneling and speech bubbles and Murata draws the art.
@@frenchfriedbagel7035 that’s true, but he lets murata have some fun like with the fart is all I was saying
@@ajfite1277 I’m sure Murata runs things by One before commiting to drawing it.
Never did I think I would see opm covered here but man that was good.
Happy to see one kept up the satire to the very end. Dudes honestly been one of the inspirations to me artistically. Because you have cases like him and Yabako Sandrovrich from kengan ashura, they are amazing writers that are amateur artists and are able to break into the mainstream when others adapt their ideas in a form that more can enjoy.
One is an even cooler case because he kept up his drawing and actually came into his own with mob psycho one hundred. To me it's a "hey bro you got this, we all start somewhere".
What you didn't consider also might be that the amount of gas released by saitama seems pretty great in the panel. In fact, with Saitama's constitution, you could consider his ability to hold his farts to be significantly greater than a standard human being. With the high-speed power leveling, in fact, the level of pressure the gas inside his body could reach without leaking out could be plasmic, or beyond. There might be several thousand times more gas inside his body than you'd ordinarily think.
Holy crap
I was REALLY hoping you we’re going to go over this! Amazing job Kyle
I actually went to catch up to the manga so I can watch this video. It was insanely cool, thanks Kyle for reminding me to read the last 20-ish chapters. Had a blast (you know if you know)
Also, as a space and art nerd, I have to give it to Murata who illustrated all of the space scenes soooooo well.
So I am an admitted power scaler on Reddit, and it's purely because of videos like this. I just enjoy the act of thinking about all the physics involved or consciously absent related to superpowers.
He opposes the power of a cruel God. Of course he breaks that God's rules!
The beautiful art in these chapters was as next level as the storytelling and satire. I, CAN NOT, wait to see this animated. Thank you Kyle for breaking down these broken physics!
Sadly Mad house is not animating it anymore...
@Muhammad Hanzo Same reason Berserk hasn't had a decent adaptation since forever. Moving images are harder to do than still images. Plus extra hard animating PERFECTLY drawn still images.
10:08 Garo didn’t spot Earth from Io, the sneeze “recoil” launched Saitama and Garo in the opposite direction, they were actually passing Mars probably, when Garo noticed the sun and then he located Earth and teleported.
I have not read the manga for context, but I wonder if the "hole in the stars" could just be some sort of gravitational anomaly, causing light to bend in such a way that nothing appears to be behind it.
Doubt it that explosions Creates force it would dumb if all it did was light bending he wanted to show a void for a reason there’s also a void just like that in the universe must have implied that this had the same effect .
I’m inclined to agree. The punch may have very well just sent the photons backwards rather than actually putting a hole in the stars. Light has a physical effect on objects, and if you could condense a pressure enough, you could technically ‘slow down’ light(photons) Which would line up with your hypothesis. He didn’t erase the stars, he slowed their light from reaching his pov.
You think the author wanted to portray “light bending” or the destruction of whatever was in the void? The answer is pretty obvious.
I mean it's supposed to be Saitama punching himself with a serious punch so it makes sense. Garou got a part of the power of the Cosmos
@@jadonrahman Exactly!
In the panel where the stars disappear I think just the photons got destroyed/displaced from the blast, thus creating a black spot since that light no longer reaches us. Instead of the actual stars being destroyed.
yeah yeah, whatever helps you downplay Saitama's power
To be fair, photon-destroying energy is (at least to me, a scientific illiterate) as cool as completely shattering the speed of light
@@Cookie-gw1vv I like how OPM community has this "common sense = Saitama hater" logic
@@Хачупурчик your saying he only push the light back but we seen saitama fart faster then light and kick portals so idk why you trying to downplay him
10:10
Gotta love the continuity of OPM with the semi-destroyed moon from Saitama's previous earth destroying opponent. Though the mild critique would be that the moon faces the earth in the same direction all the time and the crater should be facing Earth.
That’s not the same crater. It’s something else on the back of the moon you can also see at 4:33
It's the God main body
It doesn't surprise me that Kyle enjoys One Punch Man. That source material is gold.
yeah, everyone seems to have missed that.
Pretty sure he already did this long ago when "stopping" his punch in front of Genos' face not only didn't harm him but also obliterated a mountain behind Genos
He could've moved in front of his own Death Punch to cover Genos.
@@concept5631 I believe this is what is implied. At least in the anime.
The scene shows Saitama going in for the punch, than we see him get in front of Genos, and then you see the gust of wind blow into the scene behind Saitama.
So yes Saitama got in front of his attack.
@@cosesu8929 Seems legit
I can't put into words how happy i am this video exists. So far the best opm chapters to date then kyle hill breaks down the science i nerd out about myself. Life is pretty good these days folks
The cosmic Garou fight is insane
This shows how fucking OUT OF THE CHARTS Murata is really...
Dude ascended to god-tier levels.
Mans saw that one DC comic book panel where Darkseid shot Orion with a bullet that travels through time and was like: "Bet! How about a 'Punch from the Past'? I'll do you one better with 'Rocket Farts'! This one is for nuking my country you damn Americans!"
This is incredibly inspiring. I can see people learning science and writing just so they get to do a commentary like this.
This had me laughing so hard, you’re really funny Kyle
Saitama manipulating Causality was just pure insanity. I'm glad Thor is covering this.
Science Thor. Watch enough and you'll be feeling thor in the morning.
He ain't manipulating anything, he travelled back in time and punched garou before they even fight,
4:44 i conject that his attack is traveling at the speed of light directly away from its point of origin, in a very pointy cone. the attack is powerful enough to redirect every photon it hits to be traveling in the same direction. the stars , from our perspective, have been wiped from existence. objectively, we are in the shadow of Gabriel's Trumpet
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Actually yeah that makes sense
For the fart thing at around 12min, I don’t know your numbers but bear in mind that special relativity would start taking effect.
I did some calculations where I set the Newtonian equation with your number to the relativistic kinetic energy equation, cancelled out the mass, and got a value of .9986c, decidedly subluminal.
Ah I just posted this comment and then I saw that you worked out the math. Thank you for the math.
Omg, this is my S/O's worse fear. He's literally a bodybuilder and in the army, but sometimes when he's stressed, his hair thins in the crown. Looks like I've got another video to share with him.
I'm so happy you made this video. One Punch Man is my favorite manga right now and I am so hyped for each chapter!the conclusion to the Garou arc was amazing!
the most impossible feat in this saga is that Saitama actually learned something
He learned how to save money, nothing's impossible
@@mr-barehiney do you even read OPM
I for one think that OPM's punch contained enough energy that it warped spacetime, causing a gravitational wave effect that moved faster than light and created that hole in the stars.
Yusuke Murata went all out on this manga
This is the kind of breakdown of One Punch Man I've been wanting..... I've been thinking about the science of the manga since I started seeing "Gods" feet and the physics behind Blast and some of his powers since I watched MAstars reviews of it.
As a “power-scaling dork,” I feel very called out
When it comes to scaling/debating fiction, people and objects with mass moving faster than light is just kind of something you have to accept. 99.9% of the time the writers couldn’t care less about their works being realistic, and in OPM’s case we’re even outright told that Flashy Flash, a character who at this point in the story has been outdone many times over, is capable of moving faster than light.
A lot of the calculations you did here for the various feats have all been done by other power scalers, with varying results. A couple examples:
The Serious punch^2 has several different calc versions, but the most agreed upon one puts the feat at requiring 1.11 zettafoe of energy (Which for those who don’t know what foe means, translates to the serious punch^2 containing more energy than 1 sextillion supernovae) and speeds around 171.5 trillion times faster than light
A calc of Saitama flipping Io’s crust using KE resulted in ~869 Nonillion joules (Which in comparison to your version, increases the power from merely turning the Earth’s crust to molten lava to destroying the planet altogether) of energy and ~8 octillion kilograms of force
I don’t remember what kind of results the serious sneeze got, but Saitama jumping around the fragments of Io got speeds of bare minimum 8,000 C
Also calling the serious sneeze the most ridiculous feat of power right after we see Saitama and Garou obliterating a massive amount of stars felt a little strange
I wanna know if these scalers actually got degrees, or what methods they used. Powerscalers be crazy with their calcs
I wanted to include links to the calcs in question, but TH-cam keeps eating my comments when I include them
As for the methods used;
The serious punch^2 calc took the distance to the furthest visible Star from Earth and used inverse square law to determine how much energy an explosion that large would need to have Star busting power at the very edge (And the speed comes from assuming the feat happened over 3 seconds. There were other ends that assumed other timeframes, but the 3 second end was the one that ended up being agreed on)
The Io flip measured the distance the debris flew using Io as a ruler and assuming a timeframe of 5 seconds to get the kinetic energy of the flung crust
And for Saitama jumping around Io the person who did the calc measured out all the visible lines, (Which looked like pure pain) compared them to Io for scale, doubled it to account for the lines on the other side of the satellite we couldn’t see, and used a few different timeframes based on a few different assumptions (The most conservative timeframe and the one that was agreed upon was the same timeframe as the one we were explicitly told for a very similar feat Garou and Platinum Sperm performed earlier)
These calculations on a different level wth 💀
@@soupywolf5234 for the serious punch one that's already innacurate, as blast and his team redirected it as a beam instead of an explosion, they also used vector manipulation to condense it so explosions calculations don't work here
The crust one really just depends on your personal opinion, but I think Kyle's is more accurate.
As for the ping pong one, you would need to account for Io being smaller, as well as the fact that saitama must have applied minimal force to the debris as not all the pieces he jumped off of were shot away into space. This suggests it was more similar to him bouncing off them much like he did to Garou with one of his punches, meaning that it wouldn't be a viable speed feat in his favot
Not really sure what to tell you on this one, I didn’t do the calc and I don’t know the specifics, just that square cube law was used
If I’m not mistaken, Kyle’s version used GPE while the other version used KE, I personally wouldn’t say either is more or less accurate, though I agree that this is really up to your own opinion on which to use
The calc used Io as a ruler for the distance, also Iirc Saitama was pretty openly stated to have been jumping between the rock fragments using his sheer speed, the fragments not flying out into space is just more “fiction doesn’t give two shits about being realistic”
4:40 you missed the hole in the moon exposing "something" that's the direct result of Saitama's actions in a previous arc. If you hit a sphere, a lot of the force will be proportionally directed on the other side. Hit a glass sphere, and you'll make a pin-prick hole in the front, whilst shattering the back.
That's probably "GOD", hiding behind the moon.
And got exposed by Saitama (accidentally), when he fought Boros 🤣
8:55
Now calculate the physics based on the average size of a human sneeze.
How fast and how hot would those molecules be? Though can we even call them molecules or atoms at this point...
Probably one of my most favorite chapters so far.
Kyle Hill! Could you calculate how strong Saitama's skin would have to be to withstand the forces he has created in the anime so far?
Multi Solar System level
Loved the video! (OPM is my favorite anime/manga and I also love numbers) However, I wanted to bring up a couple minute oversights regarding the calculations surrounding the "Serious Sneeze".
1. The sneeze originated on Io, Io is approx. 262,000 miles away from Jupiter.
2. The force from that sneeze would have to travel the ~262,000 miles through the vacuum of space (not to mention leaving one atmosphere and entering another)
Of course if this was all calculated in then just ignore this.
The panels in the latest chapters legit had my jaw on the floor
Specifically, the Gamma Ray burst by Garou
YES!! I was hoping for this when I read the chapters. There's an extra chapter when he is trying to see the back of his head in a mirror by turning around very fast
And he actually did it...then freaked out
This video was so fun. Man, you really are right up there with Bill Nye in the world of science communication.
I have an alternate proposition for the hole in the stars. It isn't necessarily that he blasted the stars away. He could have just blasted the light coming from that region of space away and thus making it look like it's empty.
Couldn't it be both?
You think the author would just make saitama sneeze a planet but not being able to destroy stars? Yea I don't know abt that...
Could the "hole in the stars" be(retconned into) a gravitational anomaly so great that it is bending the light around it making it look like a hole in the stars?
Why would you want it to be something that lame? It’s the serious punch^2 the most destructive force in the entire universe and you want it to merely “bend light” Hell no they punched a hole in the universe and that is final.
@@quikskoprbro968 that would still mean creating a gravitational field similar to or stronger than a black hole. That's how interpreted it anyway, because destroying the stars would not have prevented their light from reaching the earth. They would have kept on shining for millions of years after they were destroyed, because their previous light is still on its way.
He may have also destroyed the stars, but for the panel to make sense, he would have had to have specifically affected the light coming from the stars, not just the stars themselves.
@@PiiskaJesusFreak Both happening is acceptable
The moment the the Gamma Ray burst happened, I was hoping you would make a video
4:43 When I saw that panel I thought for a moment the same thing, it was ridiculous, but I don't think ONE would do an absurd thing like that so what I think this shows is not disappearing stars but either the energy released somehow affected the spacetime portion and it started bending light as a black hole, or the energy actually blasted out the light coming from the stars, which I know also sounds ridiculous but more reasonable than actually hitting stars million light years far from us in the blink of an eye.
Yeah because Fiction can definitely follow the rules of Real Life Physics, just like how Humans can turn into giant monsters able to destroy Buildings and Cities and how a guy can train until he's able to beat people 5× bigger than him with no effort or a guy who can absorb a fraction of the power from literal God, and the fact that there's an actual God there and just look at Tatsumaki, there's nobody alive who looks that damn beautiful and who has Psychic powers.
Plus many Humans have done the exact same workout as Siatama and broke their limiters by pushing their body and they didn't gain the ability for Infinite Potential like a damn Saiyan, if only, then I would've been a lot more powerful a long time ago.
Fiction doesn't always have to follow reality and this kind of setting can take some leniency with its powers.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Well considering it just used physics to explain things, I'd say it follows enough of it. FFS people are planted on the ground, that means gravity at least exists in its simplistic understanding.
@@pillarmenn1936 yeah obviously but I meant that people can move FTL and have enough power to destroy Planets, stars and Solar Systems, a *_*Little*_* bit of leniency is fine when it comes to the Physics of the manga, yeah you can apply real world physics but when it comes to the things that exceed the expectations and limits of our Physics then it's perfectly fine since it's fiction.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki I understand the point, "everything" is possible in a Fictional story, but even Fiction follows basic rules of storytelling, you cannot throw a bunch of nonsense in the story just pretending that people buys it because "it's fiction, anything is possible". You have to build the way up there, explain the rules of that world, so there are not plot holes or deus ex machina; therefore you can definitely make a story where the character breaks the fundamental rules of physics, but you need to explain how it was possible, and yet Saitama doesn't break the rules, he just defies those rules, not even the fart thing broke physics, as another guy said in another comment doing the right calculations. Destroying stars million years away from us in just a second is something that simply doesn't make sense, not even for OPM universe, but obviously this is up for interpretation. We'd need to wait for a confirmation from the actual creator, hopefully from the Anime 😭
@@winterfellwhall9934 ....he sneezed a planet to dust
A sneeze
There's no use in pretending that the rules of physics are actual rules in this universe dude
The fact that Kyle can rock both lovely locks and a cueball and be handsome in both should be applauded.
Finally!!! I've been waiting for this
Saitama and Kyle are on the same level if you value hair
Friendly reminder saitama did this all with effectively one arm behind his back