I really appreciate the comparison, Brian! Great work!! It seems to me that the color in many scenes is better/deeper/richer on the 83”. For instance the night cityscapes at around 3:40 and 10:20 for me look much better on the 83” non-MLA TV. But I do understand what you are saying about the G3 MLA not looking washed out in person.
For me there are no doubts, from this video is clear that they killed all what good coming from plasma TV. Those TVs should not conceived to win the backlight of a window reflecting on it with sunlight shining through . If installed in the right place for me mla is an not needed addition that kills color accuracy
Finally, a test of LG G3 (MLA vs NON MLA!) - This has been a huge question and no one else has reviewed this way. Thank you Brian! ANOTHER thing that might set these units apart - is the Vanta anti-reflective coating on the 83" too?
I have seen both in person and I really prefer the G3 83". It's plenty bright, especially since I have a dark room. And I need 83" minimum, so there's really no option. You guys thinking the C3 is close to the G3, the picture quality and options are totally improved on the G3, and the G3 has a 5 year panel warranty that includes burn-in, the C3 does not. Something to consider.
@@robstar18 I did and I love it. The LG G3 83" is amazing. I've done a side-by-side with the G3 77", which includes MLA, and really can't see a difference. Then again I'm old. This G3 83" is excellent and probably the last TV I will ever buy.
@@Dr.WhetFarts I've compared them side-by-side and I prefer the non-MLA 83", of course because of size, and also because the MLA seems washed out to me. YMMV.
I just went from a 77” C8 to an 83” G3. I notice the size difference right away. The other thing I notice is that the G3 has better gray and near-black lighting. The G3 definitely looks better, and I wasn’t sure how that would be possible as I liked my C8 so much. But alas, the G3 was a nice step up. I kept my 77” for my living room, and have my 83” in the theater.
I have a G2 and mostly watch at night and its so dam bright and colorful. More then happy with it. When youre watching an oled in a dark room, it will be so dam bright and i cant even watch it at 80 brightness, its way to bright for me. In gaming i use it at 80 with dynamic and its very bright and colorful af!
It seems to me the 83” looks better. It seems like the colors are more vibrant. I have a LG 86” Nano Cell and I want to upgrade to a OLED but I worry about dropping down to a smaller screen size. 83 inches is as low as I can live with but I’ve been worried about the 83” not having MLA. Based on what I’ve seen here I’d take the 83” inch over the 77” should I go with C3 or G3? 🤷
Brian, thank you for your review and comments between the two sets. I am sure in person there is a different perspective, but as you mentioned viewing on our end you get the impression that the 77" is slightly washed out compared to the 83". Almost like someone mis adjusted the contrast setting. I know the human eye sees things differently than the camera but awesome content and review. Currently I am viewing with a LGZ2 88" in a light controlled environment. Excellent black level and peak brights. Bright scenes that could make one snow blind. :) Cannot imagine what a similar scene would do on the 77" G3. Came from a UST 100" projector. Although the size was cool and color saturation was awesome with the tri laser system. The low-level blacks were not to my standard and the handling of HDR tone mapping required a Lumigan added to the system to be correct. Keep up the great work. I enjoy your comments and quality of your content.
My 85” QN95B just died and can’t be repaired. Just purchased the 83” G3. Won’t get to play with it for a week:(. Thank you for the comparison. Looked at a C3 and a G3 with MLA in the store side by side and the difference wasn’t enough to make me want to down size for MLA.
My room isn’t to bright so I am not worried yet😐 I owned two Samsungs in a row and just didn’t like the gaming experience on them. Have an XSX and PS5 and ghosting on fast moving screens was very off putting. Heard nothing but great things on LG OLED gaming so I am looking forward to giving it try. If I hate it I can always go back to a mini-LED.
Not sure... After forgetting my wish for OLED to be as bright as possible, i started to see 83" as better colour details while MLA in bright scenes looks washed out. I liked the 83", but of course in very dark scenes MLA kicks ass as it gives you that extra detail.
An excellent video. With prices falling on the G3, buyers are wondering if size trumps the mla tech. My question is can the 83" get bright enough to do justice to hdr content and is there good detail in darker scenes?
It's one thing to see the comparisons via this channel on your phone and another in person at the store! Totally blown away with how rich.. vivid... bright the G3 with the MLA technology was compared to the non MLA G3 & the C3! The whites were, well whiter and everything seemed to just pop even more so than last year's G2...Since I'm a fan of the 83" I have to wait until next season which it will be very well worth it!
At 2:18. I can make out the fur on the critters chest, and it looks more like natural sunlight IMO. With some tweeking of the contrast, gamma, and brightness, I think the MLA panel can maintain the richness of dark areas and still hold good dark area details with the white subpixels.
2023 is looking to be the greatest year in TVS EVER! We have MLA, HDR, QD-OLED, 4K, 120hz, mini-LED, micro-led, XLED, Crystal LED, Gameplay Mode, Picture in Picture is back!
Fomo, i love your videos but seriously are u watching the same vodeo. The mla looked horrible compared to the non mla. I can care less that the mla has brighter whites or slightly brighter licture level if it looks super washed out. The mla one dont even look like an oled.
We spent some time yesterday at Best Buy comparing the 77" G3 to the 83" G3 in order to decide whether the MLA panel should be critical to our decision. We had already ordered the 83" size as our viewing distance is about 18', but this video made me want to confirm the decision while there was still time to cancel the order. Best Buy had the two TVs mounted on the wall next to each other in a brightly lit showroom. Both were at the same brightness settings (including Vivid mode), and the pictures were synced and could be paused on whatever image we wanted to examine closely. We found that details emerged from the shadows more clearly on the 77" set, but details in bright patches of the picture were more discernible on the 83" set. Oddly enough, front- and side-lit facial shots were consistently brighter on the 83" set. Both sets were plenty bright for viewing any content in the showroom. Bottom line: we did notice differences between the two TVs, but they cut both ways and left us finding no reason to prefer one image over the other for general viewing. Given that, the size of our TV room made the larger set the better choice for us.
Excellent question, and I myself have struggled with it in the same way. However, as good as the MLA G3 is, it simply can't grow in size. You guys need the size for your seating distance. The 77" vs 83" is substantial and I can never go smaller. The G3 at 83" is excellent and immersion is key. Be comfortable with your choice and enjoy it. Thank you so much for watching.
Well. What can I say. I love this channel. 😂😂😂 To my eyes, the 77 inch does look much brighter, but the 83 inch, the colors look more saturated or deeper, which I like more. So me personally, I like the 83 inches better. Now i’m just waiting for Sony to show up so I can decide which 83-85 inches is going to be the one. Buying two TVs this year. A 55 inch for my bedroom (G3 55) and an 80+ inches for my living room to replace a 65 inch Samsung (undecided here between G3 83 or X95L). Awesome work Brian. 🔥🔥🔥👍🏼
I went with the X95L for my bright living room and the G3 in 55 inch format for my bedroom. I got to say that software wise, the G3 is rock solid, while the sony I have to reset every week, because it freezes.
@@MightyBeast76 thats funny - my old Sony 75 (XG9505) used to do that quite often. I would turn it on and it would have to re-boot itself. Probably twice a month. And that TV was almost top-end, and 2019… Having the G3 and X95L … Your in a unique position to help me! My reasons not for the G3 were possible Coil Whine, and people on forums talk about VRR flickering in dark scenes. Have you experienced either? Are you happy with the Sony, or would you swap it for a G3 83 given the chance? I’m super stuck between the two. Have seen an LG G3 77 in the shops, not an 83, and have not seen the Sony either (no where near has them on display). Thanks 🙏🏻
@@KateJohnston-d4d With the G3, when it comes to image artifacts, I haven’t noticed any, to be humble. Comparing color quality, I think the G3 looks prettier, but Sony’s tv looks really awesome as well. Everyone that visits me, gets enchanted by the image quality and colors of the Sony TV. The main reasons I chose Sony, over LG was the lack of MLA on the biggest sized G3 version, price difference and that with Sony, I wouldn’t have to fear screen degradation for quite a while. I can definitely 100% tell you that having a C2 in my kids room, and a G3 in our bedroom, the kids have claimed the Sony one for their main viewing choice :) All in all, you will probably be very happy with whichever one you choose to buy. I also hear that the new G4 might have MLA technology in their bigger model.??
Thank you fir the video, this is exactly the decision I am trying to make, however I do wonder if there is any benefit to getting the G3 83” over the C3 83”. Personally coming from Plasma in almost every scene I prefer the picture without MLA, you say it isn’t washed out but the image fir me looks forced and less natural than the 83” without MLA. Perhaps it’s because I’m used to Plasma but in comparison the 77” looks more like an LCD TV, I think my money goes with the less forced larger screen.
I know I'm looking at it through and I appreciate what you do Personally I think TVs have gotten brave enough that is about processing and imagery and it's gone far past how much light comes into a room anymore Unless I'm seeing something wrong through your camera the larger TV is much more detailed. LG just took the same technology and made it brighter vs using quantum dots to vary the colour spectrum. I think the 83 inch without MLA if you are looking at something at that size and have a theatre space for gaming and everything else is best pick. Again unless it's your camera at the light of the 77 mla is taking away from the detail.
I bought the 77 G3 instead of the 83 specifically for MLA and I love it its mindblowing bright like I have to squint when the sun comes up over the horizon.
The 83"G3 looked better than the 77" to me. I'm still going to wait for the $5,800.00 A95L. It should be AMA-A-ZING. Thanks for another fabulous comparison of 2 great TVs.
@@EastCoastReefer Bad choice on the 83" G3. It doesn't have MLA technology that the 77" and 65" has. You should have gone to the 85" Sony X95L. For the same price you get better low bit processing, and much better picture quality because of Sony XR CLEAR. And a pinch bigger screen too. Hopefully the 83" G4 next year will have MLA technology which will make it amazing.
Useful video. 65" TCL UHD died. I walked i into bestbuy and saw an OoB 83" G3 for 1900. Scoped it plus full warranty for around $2300. Maybe MLA would matter (G4s look insane) but its such a big improvement and best deal i could find. Thanks for the vid! Will definitely look put for MLA in my next sets.
I am in this exact situation - was going to buy the 83 until I read about MLA. Ultimately I think we will appreciate the 83" size vs 77" brightness - but one question I have: in this test the settings are the same (which I understand for a fair comparison) ... however, can the 83 settings be bumped up a little bit to help compensate for the dimmer black detail?
Bought the G3 MLA 77 inch for the living room. Upgrading from an E8 65 inch. The G3 is awesome! For the bedroom we got the LG 65 inch Series 85 QNED mini led. The TV is not OLED but very respectable image quality! The colors really pop on it.
Crazy how the 83 looks so much better to me since shadow and contrast between light and darkness looks so much better than just putting a bright coating over everything.
Definitely prefer the color on the 83 but seems like a very difficult thing to convey via video. For what it's worth, the 83 seems like it has a higher contrast and is less washed out. Personally I very rarely watch TV during the day so for me I definitely prefer the additional size over MLA, no contest.
Excellent question! I personally think the X95L is the best choice. Two inches larger with Excellent local dimming. It also has XR clear processing which really helps the streaming and upscaling.
Thank you thank you thank you, this is exactly the comparison I was waiting for! I actually ordered a G3 83" and then cancelled when I discovered it didn't have MLA. Your comparison convinces me that I was right to cancel. MLA is a big step forward, and QD-OLED is still better to my tastes, and so it just seems wrong to spend so much money on a brand new TV that is a few years behind on important tech. For what it's worth, I would be upgrading from my current CX 77". Either a 2023 83" OLED or a 77" MLA or QD-OLED would be at best side-grades full of compromises. And so I am choosing to wait and see what tech we get in 83" OLEDs next year. My dream TV would be 83" QD-OLED. Anyway, it's not like my current TV is bad. :)
Dude I made a huge mistake not getting my CX in 77inches I got a 65 inch if I had a 77inch I would wait too but I'm breaking my head trying to decide what tv to get if you were me what tv over 83 inch and bigger would you get
I have a calibrated 83" G2 in a light-controlled theater. Will there ever be a reason why I would want MLA? To me the G2 is spectacular in a dark room -- sometimes the whites from headlights etc can be BLAZINGLY bright!
@@Popcrnchicken With each year comes a new processor, and so it proves here, with the G3 being powered by the Alpha 9 Gen 6 rather than the G2's Alpha 9 Gen 5. the new processor does offer a handful of new features, including AI Super Upscaling Pro, which is designed to upscale sub-4K sources while reducing noise but preserving intentional film grain; OLED Dynamic Tone Mapping Pro, which breaks the image down into 20,000 zones (rather than the 5000 of before) for separate HDR optimisation; Object Enhancer, which sharpens foreground characters and props; and HDR Expression Enhancer, which applies specific tone mapping to those foreground elements.
I probably missed it but why does the 83” not have MLA? Too expensive? Did the G2 have MLA? Also I really had my mind set on 83” so I’m gonna skip the MLA. I don’t even use my current TV on full brightness so I’ll be fine. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
MLA is a new feature for 2023. The main reason the 83" doesn't have MLA is because there isn't a 83" QD-OLED. Sad but true. That said the 83" G3 is absolutely gorgeous. Thank you so much for watching
Hey Brian! Love the videos my man. I am currently building a home that should be finished around end of July and Iwas leaning toward the G2 83 with the sitting distance of the first row at about 9.5 feet in a dedicated media/theater room. I know you mentioned that you would be doing a head to head of the 83 G2 vs 83 G3 and wanted to see if you are still going to be doing that here soon???? Can't wait for the video as it will definitely help me in what direction I go. Keep making kick ass videos brother and look forward to the response.
I just purchased the 77 g3 tomorrow I have a technician help me wall mount, I can’t wait to enjoy the experience of such a beautiful looking television
If you want MLA support I think I'd wait for the bigger size to get it. The only reason I upgraded to my beast is because I came into the money, maybe you need my set once you get to compare it directly to the others your considering, whatever you like better wins though, your the one who has to watch it. 😎👍
How's the black level in ambient lighting on the MLA panel? I couldn't really see it in the video. Background: I'm returning my 77 inch S95C because the raised blacks totally swamp shadow detail in a way that my old 55 inch LG C9 never had a problem with. It's like the vaunted QD-OLED turns into an LCD pumpkin in the afternoon. Some reviewers are saying that MLA tech causes the G3 to have that raised blacks issue, but others don't even mention it. What's your take?
Yes, i have a 65g3 at home and the whites are too much against the colors many times. Via the CI+, stb's and streaming services the whites are unreal in the total picture. My eyes get tired and distracted. I like the 65g2 from my mother much better.
Looking forward to the comparison :) Thanks for your awesome work! My prediction: Both look absolutely stunning, but the brightness increase from the MLA will be noticeable.
65' C9 here I am trying to decide get a s95c this year or wait until next year and see what they release If only we could get oled 8k at an affordable price.
Tough question for me is I'm happy with the brightness of my 65inch C1 in my dark theatre room. Wanting to go 83inch from my 65 c1 do I go 77inch G3 or 83inch C3? As the 83inch has no mla on both c.and g series??
I just saw them both in person for the first time today. 83” G3 was not close to the MLA panel pretty much across the board. Same goes for all of the other lg’s from last year as well. They were all mounted a few feet from it. S95C looked a step above compared to the other Samsungs also. G3 and S95C are the top dogs right now in my opinion. Wish they would’ve been a little closer to eachother in the store.
I’m upgrading from a 2018 82”Samsung Q8FN (it’s been an amazing screen), trying to decide if the 83” G3 will be enough of an upgrade or if the loss of brightness will hurt too much. Might wait another year to see if MLA makes it way to 83”. Really have an itch to upgrade though.
Let's hope 83" won't be the end of the road for reasonable priced OLEDs as it's unlikely owners of a 85" QLED will go back down in size for a minor picture quality improvement.
We’ve just ordered the G3 83” and discovered after ordering it does not have MLA. We currently have the Samsung UE65F9000, which is about 10 years old now so definitely due an upgrade, did we do the right thing not going for the 77” with the MLA, but we really wanted the bigger screen
Excellent question! I think you are on the right path. As good as MLA is it cannot get larger. The Size and immersion of 83" will beat it all day . If you need that size you'll be very happy. Also coming from the older Samsung any modern oled will be an improvement. I'd stay with the 83" G3 you have ordered. I have and 83" and I could never move down. I hope this helps and thank you so much for watching
At 9:32 to 10:20.. The difference is IN_sane!!! The MLA on the 77 inch is so clear in the bottom half, where on the 83 inch it’s way dimmer; Alot of detail gets lost in the dark. Thanks for the comparison :-) I think I might just go for the G3 77 inch!
Damn! HAVE to mention this too! At the 13:38 minute mark = That FORK in the bottom right corner!! It’s completely visible and defined on the 77 inch MLA version (just the white in between the fork-sticks) whereas on the 83 inch, the entire fork almost melts together with the table it self, & there’s no visible distinction in between the fork-picks! I tjecked it out on both my older tv AND on my new iPhone 14Pro. The result looks the same.. That’s just nuts :-)
If I’m interested in the MLA. Is it worth the the upgrade coming from a 77” C1 to 77” G3. In terms of quality, is it worth the upgrade? Is there a big difference?
In the 77" vs 83" predicament. I am coming from a 65" C8 which will be my bedroom tv after the upgrade. Viewing distance is 11 feet. I watch stream series, watch sports, and casually game. I had an S90C on order but wasn't happy with how I saw it handle motion when watching soccer in one of their demos. At that viewing distance would you recommend getting a 83" C3 or G3 or a 77" G3 or QD-Oled panel?
It's a real challenge. The 77" oleds are superior this year from both MLA and QD-OLED. So it's hard to recommend a larger inferior model. However your sitting pretty far away but you may also be close enough to have a 77". Also going from 65" all the way to 83" is tough because it's a massive jump an they can look soft compared to the pixel density of a 65" . My advice is grab the best 77" you can and call it a day. I'm personally jumping up to 85" mini led but I'm a huge gamer In a very bright room . Hope this helps
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY I will be keeping an eye out for G3 and potentially the A95L depending on sales over the next couple of months. I think Samsung is out of as of now due to the motion handling.
It’s such a hard decision: I really love the water scenes on the 83: it looks like if you can dive into the water. It looks so realistic and way better than the 77. Also in the bright colourful scenes it looks like more depth. But the 77 MLA: the details in the dark scenes and snowy scene: amazing!! That 83 really seems to fail in the dark scenes. So two totally contradictory feelings. Is there a possibility to change the setting from the 77 so the water looks as realistic as the 83? Or will than that amazing details of the 77 in the dark en white scenes disappear? Hope to get a respond. Thanks!
Brian prioritisation on picture quality which would be better 77. Lg G3 or Sony a80l? Please recommend I have a a80k is great but a bit to dark with not great bright room handling
Hi, I watch a lot of movies and play games in my bedroom ( it's dark room) more than watching normal channels.. which one should I buy by C3 83" or 77" with MLA Thanks
I'd love to see the Bravia 9 85" vs the LG G3 83". Do you think the Bravia would beat it? Are there any adjustments to get the whites whiter on the G3 83" and more shadow detail?
Great video and helpful in my purchasing decision. I see how the MLA screen has whiter whites and better dark detail. On some of the regular content the MLA panel looked washed out in comparison but I think overall the MLA tech is great. My 2 year old top shelf Samsung died so I can't wait. I decided on the G3 over the C4. I can pickup a G3 in 83" for 3700.00. Great deal considering. I can't go down in size. I think for my first OLED this tv will make me happy. I am wondering if there is a setting or calibration that would give the G3 more shadow detail. The Sony A95L looks great too but it only comes in a 77" panel and is crazy expensive. I had a B7 for a while but returned it because of severe glare but a pretty good set too.
How would a C1 83" stack up against the G3 83"? Supposedly they have the same panel, so the difference would be the processor and upscaling? (plus the OS, but that's not important) And how much would you give for a used C1 83"? A couple of daydreamers out here that hope to sell them for well above 3k.😅 Which is what it was being sold for at clearance prices 13 months ago. Hoping to find a steal that is too good to pass up because of the price/performance ratio. After all, they are harder to flip because of the size and hence the work required to transport them. Thus few potential buyers and competition in the second hand market.
I'm thinking about waititng until they move the MLA to the 83" I want one so bad, but then again will it be worth waiting until the change in Blue diode in 2025?
Two battles that I have dreamed of while watching this video: a hypothetical 83 inch LG G4 with MLA vs. a hypothetical Samsung S95D QD-OLED in 2024, and an 83 inch G3 versus an 88 inch 8K LG Z3 which has MLA once the Z3 is released later this year.
Thanks Brian - what would you suggest for 83-85" inch a larger bright living room setting - I'm worried about picking an OLED because of reflections, so leaning towards QLED or micro LED
For a living room environment if where are reflections concerned the Sony X95L is the current best premium choice for all-around picture quality. It's bright and has excellent blacks with good sound and also has the new XR clear for upscaling, which is the best in the industry. Hope this helps, and thank you for watching
It’s a tough call this year. Do I get a 77” with MLA or wait until next year when the 83” has it. I almost jumped on that qb90b Best Buy deal last weekend for $2300.00
Love all of your videos. This was the comparison i was looking for. I have also watched your video of your new Sony A80L 83 inch . I already have 83 inch sony A90J and lookign for upgrade but confused wuth 83 inch g3 or 77 inch G3 with MLa but size of the screen is ans issue our would you recommend sony A80 83 inch over Lg g3 83 inch? Your opion will help.
Thank you for watching my friend. I actually haven't yet. I was about to pull the trigger on the 85" QN95C but once the TCL QM8 came out for a quarter of the price it kind of paused me. It sent me back to my C1 at 83😁
I have a 5 year old Sony 4k and want to move up to at least an 83 inch or larger tv…was thinking of going to an oled aand was thinking of going with a G2 but open to any recommendations…
This comparison video gives me the impression that the non-MLA colors look to be closer to those on a QD-OLED panel. The MLA colors look a little bit bland imo. I know their overall brightness is definitely higher though.
Maann you just answered my question with this video I've been debating in between the lg g2, lg g3 at 83" since it's an mla panel i didn't know if the extra money is worth it, thank you 🙏
MLA looks great. Dayscenes looks more realistic with the diffusing sunlight 15:34. I Hope 2024 the 83G4 will get MLA. Otherwise i have to stay with my 77C9 for longer.
In person do the colors of the MLA look a little less rich than the non MLA screens? On TH-cam the MLA G3 looks like the colors are a little washed out and on the 83” they always stay rich and vibrant.
I like it a lot. It's my 3rd OLED, have a B7 55", C9 65" and the C2 is much better in every way. I never really felt that the C9 or B7 were dull, but the C2 is very bright. If this C2 was my first OLED i'd be on the moon. But you get used to perfect black levels and expect it. The C2 doesn't support DTS for some weird reason, the B7 and C9 do support DTS, the newer C3 does as well. I'd get either the C2 or C3, whichever is less money.
I personally feel that the G3's gaming features can and will be brought back with future updates. However you have to judge it on where it's at right now and right now the S95C beats it in that regard.
Just finished basement, picked up g3 83 for just under 1900 Best Buy open box. What should I check for? Maybe it was a display model with a lot of use? Any advice is appreciated. Fantastic video thank you
Hi Brian. You mentioned on it's own the G3 looks as though it is not washed out and only when actually compared to the G2 gives it that apoearance. My question to you is does that mean with the extra brightness with the MLA does the TV lose color volume and 2nd would you then opt for 77inch Samsung QD-OLED that seems to hold color better with the enhanced brightness or would you still go LG G3 for movie watching, sports and TV (no gaming). In this video i personally prefer the rich image of the G2. Thanks for the video
I am enjoying my MLA 77” G3. So bright. Upgraded from C9 65”. Bought at Value Electronics too.
Awesome!! So glad you are enjoying it! Hope you told them that I sent you.
I have the same c9 and im stuck between the 83in G2 or g3.
Comparisons i’d love to see:
83” G3 vs 83” C3
83” C3 vs 83” C2
83” g3 vs 85” x95L (when it comes out)
Thanks Brian!
And the z9k
I really appreciate the comparison, Brian! Great work!! It seems to me that the color in many scenes is better/deeper/richer on the 83”. For instance the night cityscapes at around 3:40 and 10:20 for me look much better on the 83” non-MLA TV. But I do understand what you are saying about the G3 MLA not looking washed out in person.
Yeah me too the 83 got better deep color, the MLA brigthness kills the colors and blacks
Mla wash out the colors. I think qd oled's work better.
For me there are no doubts, from this video is clear that they killed all what good coming from plasma TV. Those TVs should not conceived to win the backlight of a window reflecting on it with sunlight shining through . If installed in the right place for me mla is an not needed addition that kills color accuracy
I had a 55"C9 and recently got the G3 65" Wow. Huge difference in highlight detail, video processing, and color.
did you get a stand for your G3 ?
@@ployth9000 Yes I purchased a stand from Amazon which surprisingly looked elegant with the G3.
Finally, a test of LG G3 (MLA vs NON MLA!) - This has been a huge question and no one else has reviewed this way. Thank you Brian! ANOTHER thing that might set these units apart - is the Vanta anti-reflective coating on the 83" too?
Glad you enjoyed Ryan! Same coating on both screens. Thank you for watching!
I have seen both in person and I really prefer the G3 83". It's plenty bright, especially since I have a dark room. And I need 83" minimum, so there's really no option. You guys thinking the C3 is close to the G3, the picture quality and options are totally improved on the G3, and the G3 has a 5 year panel warranty that includes burn-in, the C3 does not. Something to consider.
Did you purchase it?! Update?
@@robstar18 I did and I love it. The LG G3 83" is amazing. I've done a side-by-side with the G3 77", which includes MLA, and really can't see a difference. Then again I'm old. This G3 83" is excellent and probably the last TV I will ever buy.
I feel like the 83 actually comes pretty close. Is not bad at all
No not bad but 77 with MLA and QD-OLED looks clearly better, More so in real life. Camera can't pick it up right.
@@Dr.WhetFarts I've compared them side-by-side and I prefer the non-MLA 83", of course because of size, and also because the MLA seems washed out to me. YMMV.
I just went from a 77” C8 to an 83” G3. I notice the size difference right away. The other thing I notice is that the G3 has better gray and near-black lighting. The G3 definitely looks better, and I wasn’t sure how that would be possible as I liked my C8 so much. But alas, the G3 was a nice step up. I kept my 77” for my living room, and have my 83” in the theater.
You made the right choice @bneyens, pictures looks much better on the G3 83" than the 77 overthought the later has MLA, definitely 83" for me.
@@joebleyor I’m thinking about to get 83” as well. But that MLA fomo kept getting to me 😢
@@XxItzkenExXG4 & C4 will have mla all sizes
@@o.c.g.m9426Nah, none for the C4, but the G4 will have MLA…
I have a G2 and mostly watch at night and its so dam bright and colorful. More then happy with it. When youre watching an oled in a dark room, it will be so dam bright and i cant even watch it at 80 brightness, its way to bright for me. In gaming i use it at 80 with dynamic and its very bright and colorful af!
Thanks for the comparison. I am facing same purchase decision. Looks like I need to wait another year for 83" MLA.
It seems to me the 83” looks better. It seems like the colors are more vibrant. I have a LG 86” Nano Cell and I want to upgrade to a OLED but I worry about dropping down to a smaller screen size. 83 inches is as low as I can live with but I’ve been worried about the 83” not having MLA. Based on what I’ve seen here I’d take the 83” inch over the 77” should I go with C3 or G3? 🤷
Very very hard to lose that size my friend. I think you'd appreciate the 83" for it's picture quality. Thank you for watching
I still was impressed with how good the 83 inch LG looked.
Mr. Wyckoff, I picked up the C2 83” for a heck of a deal
Brian, thank you for your review and comments between the two sets. I am sure in person there is a different perspective, but as you mentioned viewing on our end you get the impression that the 77" is slightly washed out compared to the 83". Almost like someone mis adjusted the contrast setting. I know the human eye sees things differently than the camera but awesome content and review. Currently I am viewing with a LGZ2 88" in a light controlled environment. Excellent black level and peak brights. Bright scenes that could make one snow blind. :)
Cannot imagine what a similar scene would do on the 77" G3.
Came from a UST 100" projector. Although the size was cool and color saturation was awesome with the tri laser system. The low-level blacks were not to my standard and the handling of HDR tone mapping required a Lumigan added to the system to be correct. Keep up the great work. I enjoy your comments and quality of your content.
My 85” QN95B just died and can’t be repaired. Just purchased the 83” G3. Won’t get to play with it for a week:(. Thank you for the comparison. Looked at a C3 and a G3 with MLA in the store side by side and the difference wasn’t enough to make me want to down size for MLA.
My room isn’t to bright so I am not worried yet😐 I owned two Samsungs in a row and just didn’t like the gaming experience on them. Have an XSX and PS5 and ghosting on fast moving screens was very off putting. Heard nothing but great things on LG OLED gaming so I am looking forward to giving it try. If I hate it I can always go back to a mini-LED.
Not sure... After forgetting my wish for OLED to be as bright as possible, i started to see 83" as better colour details while MLA in bright scenes looks washed out. I liked the 83", but of course in very dark scenes MLA kicks ass as it gives you that extra detail.
An excellent video. With prices falling on the G3, buyers are wondering if size trumps the mla tech. My question is can the 83" get bright enough to do justice to hdr content and is there good detail in darker scenes?
It's one thing to see the comparisons via this channel on your phone and another in person at the store! Totally blown away with how rich.. vivid... bright the G3 with the MLA technology was compared to the non MLA G3 & the C3! The whites were, well whiter and everything seemed to just pop even more so than last year's G2...Since I'm a fan of the 83" I have to wait until next season which it will be very well worth it!
ahhhhh really? I need dat MLA I think. Just found out the 83 doesnt offer it
@@adrianroland4894 sooooooon! G4!
I got the LG G4 83“ and I can say it’s absolutely amazing. G3 83” without MLA was too dark, therefore I had to wait, but it was a good decision
At 2:18. I can make out the fur on the critters chest, and it looks more like natural sunlight IMO. With some tweeking of the contrast, gamma, and brightness, I think the MLA panel can maintain the richness of dark areas and still hold good dark area details with the white subpixels.
Gotta run with MLA
I agree 💯 especially seeing it in person the other day!
2023 is looking to be the greatest year in TVS EVER! We have MLA, HDR, QD-OLED, 4K, 120hz, mini-LED, micro-led, XLED, Crystal LED, Gameplay Mode, Picture in Picture is back!
Fomo, i love your videos but seriously are u watching the same vodeo. The mla looked horrible compared to the non mla. I can care less that the mla has brighter whites or slightly brighter licture level if it looks super washed out. The mla one dont even look like an oled.
@@120382brian It’s I couldn’t care less not can.
@@michael-4k4000 crystal led?
We spent some time yesterday at Best Buy comparing the 77" G3 to the 83" G3 in order to decide whether the MLA panel should be critical to our decision. We had already ordered the 83" size as our viewing distance is about 18', but this video made me want to confirm the decision while there was still time to cancel the order. Best Buy had the two TVs mounted on the wall next to each other in a brightly lit showroom. Both were at the same brightness settings (including Vivid mode), and the pictures were synced and could be paused on whatever image we wanted to examine closely.
We found that details emerged from the shadows more clearly on the 77" set, but details in bright patches of the picture were more discernible on the 83" set. Oddly enough, front- and side-lit facial shots were consistently brighter on the 83" set. Both sets were plenty bright for viewing any content in the showroom. Bottom line: we did notice differences between the two TVs, but they cut both ways and left us finding no reason to prefer one image over the other for general viewing. Given that, the size of our TV room made the larger set the better choice for us.
Excellent question, and I myself have struggled with it in the same way. However, as good as the MLA G3 is, it simply can't grow in size. You guys need the size for your seating distance. The 77" vs 83" is substantial and I can never go smaller. The G3 at 83" is excellent and immersion is key. Be comfortable with your choice and enjoy it. Thank you so much for watching.
Thanks for your comments. Been the most helpful I have seen on this subject!
Did you put each set on the same settings? I have an 83" G3 and 83" G4. The G4 is better but marginally.
I dont know if is the camera but I see the 83 with better contrast.
Well. What can I say. I love this channel. 😂😂😂
To my eyes, the 77 inch does look much brighter, but the 83 inch, the colors look more saturated or deeper, which I like more. So me personally, I like the 83 inches better.
Now i’m just waiting for Sony to show up so I can decide which 83-85 inches is going to be the one.
Buying two TVs this year. A 55 inch for my bedroom (G3 55) and an 80+ inches for my living room to replace a 65 inch Samsung (undecided here between G3 83 or X95L).
Awesome work Brian. 🔥🔥🔥👍🏼
What did you choose between the G3 83 and X95L? Am decided between these right now - thanks !
I went with the X95L for my bright living room and the G3 in 55 inch format for my bedroom.
I got to say that software wise, the G3 is rock solid, while the sony I have to reset every week, because it freezes.
@@MightyBeast76 thats funny - my old Sony 75 (XG9505) used to do that quite often. I would turn it on and it would have to re-boot itself. Probably twice a month. And that TV was almost top-end, and 2019…
Having the G3 and X95L … Your in a unique position to help me!
My reasons not for the G3 were possible Coil Whine, and people on forums talk about VRR flickering in dark scenes. Have you experienced either?
Are you happy with the Sony, or would you swap it for a G3 83 given the chance?
I’m super stuck between the two. Have seen an LG G3 77 in the shops, not an 83, and have not seen the Sony either (no where near has them on display).
Thanks 🙏🏻
@@KateJohnston-d4d With the G3, when it comes to image artifacts, I haven’t noticed any, to be humble. Comparing color quality, I think the G3 looks prettier, but Sony’s tv looks really awesome as well. Everyone that visits me, gets enchanted by the image quality and colors of the Sony TV. The main reasons I chose Sony, over LG was the lack of MLA on the biggest sized G3 version, price difference and that with Sony, I wouldn’t have to fear screen degradation for quite a while.
I can definitely 100% tell you that having a C2 in my kids room, and a G3 in our bedroom, the kids have claimed the Sony one for their main viewing choice :)
All in all, you will probably be very happy with whichever one you choose to buy. I also hear that the new G4 might have MLA technology in their bigger model.??
@@KateJohnston-d4d th-cam.com/video/_GwqCwQmBC4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DZPupaiJdwdrCDnL
Thank you fir the video, this is exactly the decision I am trying to make, however I do wonder if there is any benefit to getting the G3 83” over the C3 83”.
Personally coming from Plasma in almost every scene I prefer the picture without MLA, you say it isn’t washed out but the image fir me looks forced and less natural than the 83” without MLA. Perhaps it’s because I’m used to Plasma but in comparison the 77” looks more like an LCD TV, I think my money goes with the less forced larger screen.
Really appreciate your videos. Decided on C3 83”
Hey Brian, how much brighter is the 83- inch G3 compared to your 83- C1?
How does the 83 inch A90J compare to the 83 inch G3?
I know I'm looking at it through and I appreciate what you do
Personally I think TVs have gotten brave enough that is about processing and imagery and it's gone far past how much light comes into a room anymore
Unless I'm seeing something wrong through your camera the larger TV is much more detailed.
LG just took the same technology and made it brighter vs using quantum dots to vary the colour spectrum.
I think the 83 inch without MLA if you are looking at something at that size and have a theatre space for gaming and everything else is best pick. Again unless it's your camera at the light of the 77 mla is taking away from the detail.
Why does the 77” look bigger than the 83”? 😅
I bought the 77 G3 instead of the 83 specifically for MLA and I love it its mindblowing bright like I have to squint when the sun comes up over the horizon.
Man I'm torn. Really want an 83 inch but that MLA or OD oled look great. Lg could corner the market if they put that MLA on the 83.
The 83"G3 looked better than the 77" to me. I'm still going to wait for the $5,800.00 A95L. It should be AMA-A-ZING. Thanks for another fabulous comparison of 2 great TVs.
My pleasure my friend! Thank you so much for watching
It won't be 83", just up to 77'.
The colors of the A95L was amazing and I would have purchased it if but it only goes up to 77”. I “settled” for the 83” G3. 😂
@@EastCoastReefer Bad choice on the 83" G3. It doesn't have MLA technology that the 77" and 65" has. You should have gone to the 85" Sony X95L. For the same price you get better low bit processing, and much better picture quality because of Sony XR CLEAR. And a pinch bigger screen too. Hopefully the 83" G4 next year will have MLA technology which will make it amazing.
I would like to see a comparison between the G3 vs C3 in 83 inch... If they are close the C3 in 83 inch makes sense since its about $1k less..
I'll see if I can make it happen
Useful video. 65" TCL UHD died. I walked i into bestbuy and saw an OoB 83" G3 for 1900. Scoped it plus full warranty for around $2300.
Maybe MLA would matter (G4s look insane) but its such a big improvement and best deal i could find.
Thanks for the vid! Will definitely look put for MLA in my next sets.
I am in this exact situation - was going to buy the 83 until I read about MLA. Ultimately I think we will appreciate the 83" size vs 77" brightness - but one question I have: in this test the settings are the same (which I understand for a fair comparison) ... however, can the 83 settings be bumped up a little bit to help compensate for the dimmer black detail?
Did you go with the g2 83. I did
Bought the G3 MLA 77 inch for the living room. Upgrading from an E8 65 inch. The G3 is awesome! For the bedroom we got the LG 65 inch Series 85 QNED mini led. The TV is not OLED but very respectable image quality! The colors really pop on it.
Crazy how the 83 looks so much better to me since shadow and contrast between light and darkness looks so much better than just putting a bright coating over everything.
Smart one..
true
Definitely prefer the color on the 83 but seems like a very difficult thing to convey via video. For what it's worth, the 83 seems like it has a higher contrast and is less washed out. Personally I very rarely watch TV during the day so for me I definitely prefer the additional size over MLA, no contest.
Me too
Same I got the 83
G2
@@cm7923how do you like it so far? Thinking of buying the same.
Brian, given the choice, for 90% movies in a mid level light room (normal day, darker at night):
G3 83”
C3 83”
or
x95L 85”
Thanks !!
Excellent question! I personally think the X95L is the best choice. Two inches larger with Excellent local dimming. It also has XR clear processing which really helps the streaming and upscaling.
Thanks Brian, much appreciated!! I’d narrowed it to the G2 & x95L
Thank you thank you thank you, this is exactly the comparison I was waiting for! I actually ordered a G3 83" and then cancelled when I discovered it didn't have MLA. Your comparison convinces me that I was right to cancel. MLA is a big step forward, and QD-OLED is still better to my tastes, and so it just seems wrong to spend so much money on a brand new TV that is a few years behind on important tech.
For what it's worth, I would be upgrading from my current CX 77". Either a 2023 83" OLED or a 77" MLA or QD-OLED would be at best side-grades full of compromises. And so I am choosing to wait and see what tech we get in 83" OLEDs next year. My dream TV would be 83" QD-OLED. Anyway, it's not like my current TV is bad. :)
Dude I made a huge mistake not getting my CX in 77inches I got a 65 inch if I had a 77inch I would wait too but I'm breaking my head trying to decide what tv to get if you were me what tv over 83 inch and bigger would you get
Patience is a virtue my friend. Thank you so much for watching!
@@skywatcher9076 c3 83 or g3 83
Thanks
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
I have a calibrated 83" G2 in a light-controlled theater. Will there ever be a reason why I would want MLA? To me the G2 is spectacular in a dark room -- sometimes the whites from headlights etc can be BLAZINGLY bright!
I also have the 83 g2. How the vertical banding on yours
@@cm7923 I have no vertical banding at all. Do you have a picture of what is happening on yours?
I mounted a 65” G3 the other day! I noticed when running disney+ dolby vision on vivid that the image wasn’t clipped. It had a warm image.
83 G3 vs 83 G2
They’re the same.
I recon it would be a tiny hrighter in certain windows like c2 vs c3 vs c4.@PopcornChicken
no, the G3 83" is 30% briter than G2, 77" and down for G3 is 60% Brighter because of MLA!
@@Popcrnchicken With each year comes a new processor, and so it proves here, with the G3 being powered by the Alpha 9 Gen 6 rather than the G2's Alpha 9 Gen 5. the new processor does offer a handful of new features, including AI Super Upscaling Pro, which is designed to upscale sub-4K sources while reducing noise but preserving intentional film grain; OLED Dynamic Tone Mapping Pro, which breaks the image down into 20,000 zones (rather than the 5000 of before) for separate HDR optimisation; Object Enhancer, which sharpens foreground characters and props; and HDR Expression Enhancer, which applies specific tone mapping to those foreground elements.
@@borger9952 Right, basically, no one would notice the difference.
Colours look deeper and richer on the 83”. Washed out in comparison on the 77
How is Uniformity? Any Vertical banding at low grays coming out of black, A90J has it.
I think the best side by side shot was at 16:45 the waterfall scene. The MLA 77" blows the 83" out of the water.
How would you compare all 3 LG 83 inch C3, G3 and C2?
I probably missed it but why does the 83” not have MLA? Too expensive? Did the G2 have MLA? Also I really had my mind set on 83” so I’m gonna skip the MLA. I don’t even use my current TV on full brightness so I’ll be fine. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
MLA is a new feature for 2023. The main reason the 83" doesn't have MLA is because there isn't a 83" QD-OLED. Sad but true. That said the 83" G3 is absolutely gorgeous. Thank you so much for watching
Hey Brian! Love the videos my man. I am currently building a home that should be finished around end of July and Iwas leaning toward the G2 83 with the sitting distance of the first row at about 9.5 feet in a dedicated media/theater room. I know you mentioned that you would be doing a head to head of the 83 G2 vs 83 G3 and wanted to see if you are still going to be doing that here soon???? Can't wait for the video as it will definitely help me in what direction I go. Keep making kick ass videos brother and look forward to the response.
no need to wait @joshuajeffrey9826, go for the G3 83" if u can afford it
Which one should I get Z9k 85 inch or g3 83 inch? Thank you
I just purchased the 77 g3 tomorrow I have a technician help me wall mount, I can’t wait to enjoy the experience of such a beautiful looking television
Awesome Omar! Congratulations on your purchase! You are going to love it! Thank you for watching
If you want MLA support I think I'd wait for the bigger size to get it. The only reason I upgraded to my beast is because I came into the money, maybe you need my set once you get to compare it directly to the others your considering, whatever you like better wins though, your the one who has to watch it. 😎👍
How's the black level in ambient lighting on the MLA panel? I couldn't really see it in the video. Background: I'm returning my 77 inch S95C because the raised blacks totally swamp shadow detail in a way that my old 55 inch LG C9 never had a problem with. It's like the vaunted QD-OLED turns into an LCD pumpkin in the afternoon. Some reviewers are saying that MLA tech causes the G3 to have that raised blacks issue, but others don't even mention it. What's your take?
I think the 83 inch is more balanced . . the 77 inch has a white tint distributed in many scenes . .
Yes, i have a 65g3 at home and the whites are too much against the colors many times. Via the CI+, stb's and streaming services the whites are unreal in the total picture. My eyes get tired and distracted. I like the 65g2 from my mother much better.
Looking forward to the comparison :)
Thanks for your awesome work!
My prediction: Both look absolutely stunning, but the brightness increase from the MLA will be noticeable.
I think it's not just the brightness, the cleaner whites in MLA improve the whole picture quality in important ways.
I have to question if the 77 would look better if you adjusted your camera settings to be a little darker
65' C9 here I am trying to decide get a s95c this year or wait until next year and see what they release If only we could get oled 8k at an affordable price.
Tough question for me is I'm happy with the brightness of my 65inch C1 in my dark theatre room. Wanting to go 83inch from my 65 c1 do I go 77inch G3 or 83inch C3? As the 83inch has no mla on both c.and g series??
I just saw them both in person for the first time today. 83” G3 was not close to the MLA panel pretty much across the board. Same goes for all of the other lg’s from last year as well. They were all mounted a few feet from it. S95C looked a step above compared to the other Samsungs also. G3 and S95C are the top dogs right now in my opinion. Wish they would’ve been a little closer to eachother in the store.
I think the MLA makes a difference in shadow detail and whites are white but the 83" monster is still an amazing set.
I’m upgrading from a 2018 82”Samsung Q8FN (it’s been an amazing screen), trying to decide if the 83” G3 will be enough of an upgrade or if the loss of brightness will hurt too much. Might wait another year to see if MLA makes it way to 83”. Really have an itch to upgrade though.
Did you upgrade yet? I just pull the string because it’s on sale and MAN everybody in the house loves the tv
@@miltona891 which size did you end up getting?
@@thelidkaroi560683in G3, I love it. I see the new 83in G3 has MLA now but I’m ok with it. The tv looks amazing
@@thelidkaroi5606 83 and love every minute of it
Let's hope 83" won't be the end of the road for reasonable priced OLEDs as it's unlikely owners of a 85" QLED will go back down in size for a minor picture quality improvement.
We’ve just ordered the G3 83” and discovered after ordering it does not have MLA. We currently have the Samsung UE65F9000, which is about 10 years old now so definitely due an upgrade, did we do the right thing not going for the 77” with the MLA, but we really wanted the bigger screen
Excellent question! I think you are on the right path. As good as MLA is it cannot get larger. The Size and immersion of 83" will beat it all day . If you need that size you'll be very happy. Also coming from the older Samsung any modern oled will be an improvement. I'd stay with the 83" G3 you have ordered. I have and 83" and I could never move down. I hope this helps and thank you so much for watching
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY In the video you said the 77 MLA was worth it compared to increase in size with 83. Which is it?
At 9:32 to 10:20.. The difference is IN_sane!!! The MLA on the 77 inch is so clear in the bottom half, where on the 83 inch it’s way dimmer; Alot of detail gets lost in the dark.
Thanks for the comparison :-) I think I might just go for the G3 77 inch!
I think you'll be very happy!
Damn! HAVE to mention this too! At the 13:38 minute mark = That FORK in the bottom right corner!! It’s completely visible and defined on the 77 inch MLA version (just the white in between the fork-sticks) whereas on the 83 inch, the entire fork almost melts together with the table it self, & there’s no visible distinction in between the fork-picks! I tjecked it out on both my older tv AND on my new iPhone 14Pro. The result looks the same.. That’s just nuts :-)
@@ChristianKrogh-Denmark nice observation
Bryan what's your top 2 personal picks in 83+ sizes which MINI LED you looking at qn95c???
If I’m interested in the MLA. Is it worth the the upgrade coming from a 77” C1 to 77” G3. In terms of quality, is it worth the upgrade? Is there a big difference?
In the 77" vs 83" predicament. I am coming from a 65" C8 which will be my bedroom tv after the upgrade. Viewing distance is 11 feet. I watch stream series, watch sports, and casually game. I had an S90C on order but wasn't happy with how I saw it handle motion when watching soccer in one of their demos. At that viewing distance would you recommend getting a 83" C3 or G3 or a 77" G3 or QD-Oled panel?
It's a real challenge. The 77" oleds are superior this year from both MLA and QD-OLED. So it's hard to recommend a larger inferior model. However your sitting pretty far away but you may also be close enough to have a 77". Also going from 65" all the way to 83" is tough because it's a massive jump an they can look soft compared to the pixel density of a 65" . My advice is grab the best 77" you can and call it a day. I'm personally jumping up to 85" mini led but I'm a huge gamer In a very bright room . Hope this helps
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY I will be keeping an eye out for G3 and potentially the A95L depending on sales over the next couple of months. I think Samsung is out of as of now due to the motion handling.
It’s such a hard decision: I really love the water scenes on the 83: it looks like if you can dive into the water. It looks so realistic and way better than the 77. Also in the bright colourful scenes it looks like more depth.
But the 77 MLA: the details in the dark scenes and snowy scene: amazing!! That 83 really seems to fail in the dark scenes.
So two totally contradictory feelings. Is there a possibility to change the setting from the 77 so the water looks as realistic as the 83? Or will than that amazing details of the 77 in the dark en white scenes disappear? Hope to get a respond. Thanks!
The 83 looks like a deeper richer picture?
Brian prioritisation on picture quality which would be better 77. Lg G3 or Sony a80l? Please recommend I have a a80k is great but a bit to dark with not great bright room handling
It's so easy to see how much better MLA is, like chalk and cheese......
Hi,
I watch a lot of movies and play games in my bedroom ( it's dark room) more than watching normal channels.. which one should I buy by C3 83" or 77" with MLA
Thanks
Left 77" tv looks bigger then 83" on the right. ??
Is it labeled wrongly?
Strange. The TV on the left side seems to be the bigger one. It looks like, 77 and 83 habe to be changed. ???
As I mentioned several times in the video, the 83" is on the wall and the 77" is on a stand so it's closer. Thank you for watching
does the 83 inch has the same anti reflecting coating with the 77 or 65?
I'd love to see the Bravia 9 85" vs the LG G3 83". Do you think the Bravia would beat it? Are there any adjustments to get the whites whiter on the G3 83" and more shadow detail?
Here you go! th-cam.com/users/shortsdcG65hGXEgc?si=xIFx-Cj-BvbjTk1X the full video will be up Monday
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Interesting video. The B9 is a great tv. In some scenes the OLED is king. In others the B9 shines. Love to see some DV too. Thanks
Great video and helpful in my purchasing decision. I see how the MLA screen has whiter whites and better dark detail. On some of the regular content the MLA panel looked washed out in comparison but I think overall the MLA tech is great. My 2 year old top shelf Samsung died so I can't wait. I decided on the G3 over the C4. I can pickup a G3 in 83" for 3700.00. Great deal considering. I can't go down in size. I think for my first OLED this tv will make me happy. I am wondering if there is a setting or calibration that would give the G3 more shadow detail. The Sony A95L looks great too but it only comes in a 77" panel and is crazy expensive. I had a B7 for a while but returned it because of severe glare but a pretty good set too.
Nice comparison video, next time please try to put them at same distance, as offsetting takes away from size comparison
How would a C1 83" stack up against the G3 83"? Supposedly they have the same panel, so the difference would be the processor and upscaling? (plus the OS, but that's not important)
And how much would you give for a used C1 83"?
A couple of daydreamers out here that hope to sell them for well above 3k.😅 Which is what it was being sold for at clearance prices 13 months ago. Hoping to find a steal that is too good to pass up because of the price/performance ratio. After all, they are harder to flip because of the size and hence the work required to transport them. Thus few potential buyers and competition in the second hand market.
I'm thinking about waititng until they move the MLA to the 83" I want one so bad, but then again will it be worth waiting until the change in Blue diode in 2025?
Do you run any content in standard on the g3? Looks so good in standard
Two battles that I have dreamed of while watching this video: a hypothetical 83 inch LG G4 with MLA vs. a hypothetical Samsung S95D QD-OLED in 2024, and an 83 inch G3 versus an 88 inch 8K LG Z3 which has MLA once the Z3 is released later this year.
I ended up today returning my 2 week old g2 77(had a bad ethernet port) for the G3 77 def brighter and faster processer. Worth the 1k to me ;)
Thanks Brian - what would you suggest for 83-85" inch a larger bright living room setting - I'm worried about picking an OLED because of reflections, so leaning towards QLED or micro LED
For a living room environment if where are reflections concerned the Sony X95L is the current best premium choice for all-around picture quality. It's bright and has excellent blacks with good sound and also has the new XR clear for upscaling, which is the best in the industry. Hope this helps, and thank you for watching
Nice one, thank you as always for the vid Brian. Hey I bet the 83 inch C1 is heavy AF!! Lol
I have a cx6 in 77; did you recomend c3 or G3 on 83"?
It’s a tough call this year. Do I get a 77” with MLA or wait until next year when the 83” has it. I almost jumped on that qb90b Best Buy deal last weekend for $2300.00
Definitely wait next yr when MLA is better. It will be better with color for sure. It's the first yr of it ,so it's not where it should be yet
Love all of your videos. This was the comparison i was looking for. I have also watched your video of your new Sony A80L 83 inch . I already have 83 inch sony A90J and lookign for upgrade but confused wuth 83 inch g3 or 77 inch G3 with MLa but size of the screen is ans issue our would you recommend sony A80 83 inch over Lg g3 83 inch? Your opion will help.
Hi Brian have you made a decision on your 83 inch upgrade? Great video!
Thank you for watching my friend. I actually haven't yet. I was about to pull the trigger on the 85" QN95C but once the TCL QM8 came out for a quarter of the price it kind of paused me. It sent me back to my C1 at 83😁
I have a 5 year old Sony 4k and want to move up to at least an 83 inch or larger tv…was thinking of going to an oled aand was thinking of going with a G2 but open to any recommendations…
This comparison video gives me the impression that the non-MLA colors look to be closer to those on a QD-OLED panel. The MLA colors look a little bit bland imo. I know their overall brightness is definitely higher though.
The G3 actually has more color however this vid was actually done to show the difference in brightness
Maann you just answered my question with this video I've been debating in between the lg g2, lg g3 at 83" since it's an mla panel i didn't know if the extra money is worth it, thank you 🙏
MLA looks great. Dayscenes looks more realistic with the diffusing sunlight 15:34. I Hope 2024 the 83G4 will get MLA. Otherwise i have to stay with my 77C9 for longer.
Excellent comment!! Unfortunately, there is no indication that MLA is coming to 83". I still love the C9. Thank you so much for watching
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY thank you. yeah. the 77c9 alibrated looks still great against all upcoming c series.
@@optimalsettings the C9 had an amazing signature that LG strayed away from
In person do the colors of the MLA look a little less rich than the non MLA screens? On TH-cam the MLA G3 looks like the colors are a little washed out and on the 83” they always stay rich and vibrant.
Would the 83” represent the C3 77”? As that does not have MLA?
Very very close but I still think the 83" G3 would be a touch brighter but not noticeable
Brian I just bought the C2 83”, arrives tomorrow! Thanks for your help buddy!
How are you liking it so far??
I like it a lot. It's my 3rd OLED, have a B7 55", C9 65" and the C2 is much better in every way. I never really felt that the C9 or B7 were dull, but the C2 is very bright. If this C2 was my first OLED i'd be on the moon. But you get used to perfect black levels and expect it. The C2 doesn't support DTS for some weird reason, the B7 and C9 do support DTS, the newer C3 does as well. I'd get either the C2 or C3, whichever is less money.
Why is the 77 inch on the left a larger tv than the 83 inch on the right?
Does the 83” LG G3 look identical to the 83” LC C3 ? Both do not have MLA .
What about the diminished game features on g3...no freesynch premium
I personally feel that the G3's gaming features can and will be brought back with future updates. However you have to judge it on where it's at right now and right now the S95C beats it in that regard.
Just finished basement, picked up g3 83 for just under 1900 Best Buy open box. What should I check for? Maybe it was a display model with a lot of use? Any advice is appreciated. Fantastic video thank you
That's the move! Enjoy it! I'd check for burn in, and various grayscale tests. Good luck!
So, this 83" is essentially a G2 with DTS audio, and Gen6 processor, and 4.2 audio speakers?
Unfortunately yes. The G2 becomes the 83" bargain
Hi Brian. You mentioned on it's own the G3 looks as though it is not washed out and only when actually compared to the G2 gives it that apoearance. My question to you is does that mean with the extra brightness with the MLA does the TV lose color volume and 2nd would you then opt for 77inch Samsung QD-OLED that seems to hold color better with the enhanced brightness or would you still go LG G3 for movie watching, sports and TV (no gaming).
In this video i personally prefer the rich image of the G2. Thanks for the video
They're both G3