It'll be more affordable to get SS 86 Devastator as they're being released, instead of waiting for a boxed set. We saw with Legacy Menasor that Hasbro is charging $279.99, when all five of the Stunticons have an MSRP of around $210.
After 5 years of non stop collecting this’ll be my first significant pass on this combiner team…I’m happy with the Takara devastator…I want to complete my collection not constantly upgrading it….
I'm a little surprised the sculpts for Scrapper, Bonecrusher, and Devastator are very close to their Combiner Wars counterparts. Sure, they're scaled down, but a lot of the Combiner Wars sculpting I didn't consider to be animation accurate is still present in these SS86 demos. Scrapper's alt-mode cockpit for example. Of all the different animation models G1 had for Devastator's head, I don't quite remember which one was accurate to the 86 movie, but the Combiner Wars and SS86 models for the head look as identical as the grey-model will allow me to believe. See 10:56 to compare.
@@MandoPrime1138 Oh they're definitely improvements. I'm mainly just curious why Studio Series, which goes for screen accuracy, gave Scrapper something closer to his Combiner Wars silhouette over the on-screen design. The articulation more than makes up for it, though, and I see plenty of other improvements on the grey-model for Devastator.
I agree 100%. Sure this one is newer and is improved, but if you purchased any of the upgrade kits for your CW version it's hard to get that excited for this one. I prefer the larger size of CW. Yeah, it's not Masterpiece size, but it looks great with the smaller MPs.
Curious if they'll eventually give us a full box set or something like that of the yellow re-color for these guys, or if that's also off the table as far as a box set re-release for them
It’s confirmed that there won’t be a box set of these guys in the first year or two of their existence. So if it were to happen, probably wouldn’t be until at the very earliest 2027, and that’s being generous
i hope they fixed the scrapper problem with devastator that the combiner wars suffered from, it happen to mine and go watch Baltmatrix video for more details, it sucks and hope this one isnt plagued by it
I’m probably the only one who would want this, but a box set of the Constructicons in the colors of the bay films Constructicons would look really damn cool.
I think that 2025 will be great year. We're getting a brand new tooling for G1 Devastator, while getting a brand new Aerialbots with the Age of Primes line. So we're getting at least two Combiners in 2025.
New 14-15” Devastator too small to fight my 86 dinobots, indvidual robots fit Legacy scale. Still got my 3rd party 18” KO Oversized Gravity Builder Devastator to take down the 86 dinobots and Titan class Omega Supream. Robot modes are ridiculously too big to fit CHUG /legacy scale, but i can accept them as some sort of race of bodybuilder transformers.
Looks great, didn't get the CW version but I'll definitely try to get this. After this, Superion and Bruticus, I'm hoping they do a new Predaking (3 Voyagers and a Commander 2 pack of Razorclaw and Divebomb).
I'm sold. It may not be titan class, but as long as it properly scales with the SS86 Dinobots so I can replicate the sludge double fisted slam scene from the movie I'll be happy. LOL 😂
I do hope going forward in Age of the Primes with Superion and eventually Bruticus, that they do the toy deco box set, especially for Bruticus, I was never a fan of the brown chest plate that the og cartoon had for him and I much preferred the big silver chest of the toy. Hopefully there's a way to get that version instead for those that prefer the toy look, especially since Bruticus has such an extreme difference between the two.
On Scrapper, no articulation in the Front Loader bucket. Scavenger as the arm, the excavator's Boom/Arm/Bucket would be better to be removable or being able to tuck in.
I'm going to be very busy in 2025, collecting all of the Constructicons in April, July and September next year. Depending on the Australian releases of the Constructicons
I’ll be waiting as I’m still very hopeful to see an official Masterpiece by Takara (now under the banner of MPG) of the 6 constructicons. They must do it and they will I’m sure. I haven’t gotten any other iterations of these other than my vintage Takara G1 figures, for that reason. I haven’t gotten into 3rd party as of yet.
Eh, cause I think all the Constructicons should be deluxes, AND Devastator should only be a head or so taller than other Combiners, I see this as an absolute win. Add-on that I didn't get to get CW/UW Devastator and the USKO Devastator I have, while it fits the description, it's fragile, not fun to mess with, and QC issues out the ass. That's assuming you can get it. And why not a third party Devy, like Hercules? Price and rarity, which go hand in hand, but my point stands. At least with this, it will be official, in scale, and hopefully, easily accessible. It ain't Seinfeld, but y'all had to know this was coming, and I'm glad this is the way.
its essentially the CW figures, which already felt like oversized legends class figures - shrunken even more with slight retools.... And PEOPLE... people.... are eating it up.
He better not partsform anything other than the forearm-hand things and the jet chest thing, that was the best part of the combiner wars version was that he didnt have a ridiculous amout of useless partsforming pieces laying around when they're in their individual modes
So, six deluxe figures worth $150, but with the "up-graded" sizes class is now worth $210. All that before taxes too. Granted it looks great, but was the up grading really worth it? The originals were all a set price for all of them. No matter that a couple of them had extra parts included with them. I remember they were a dollar more than the regular that-size class toy. (A stunticon car was about $5 and a devastator vehicle was $6.) They could've released these as all deluxe class individual toys with the extra parts, but added a couple of dollars to that price point. And it would've been less than $200 for all six of them. That would've distributed the price/cost between all six of them.
Another beefy Devastator with a teeny tiny head! That is like a Deluxe or Voyager size head on a Commander or Titan size body! It looked ridiculous 10-12 years ago when they did a Devastator set and it looks even more ridiculous now! And the sizes are all off. They should all be voyager except for Long Haul. I could see him being Leader class.
Devastators “parts forming should just be made up from jobsite stuff, Forman’s portable office, storage containers, tools, extra equipment like a wrecking ball etc miscellaneous similar to a “baseformer” like omega supreme.
They should be parts of the individual robots. Scrapper's and Bonecrusher's treads should transform into the forearms, Long Haul's bed should transform into the chest wing and the head should be stored inside Hook. Only the hands should be separate pieces, and they should transform into a pair of large blasters like the hands in Perfect Effect's CW Menasor upgrade kit.
Just a few thoughts. They show a finished project of Bonecrusher as Devastator's left arm, but didn't show if the arms upwards/downwards movement is from underneath his tracks or between his tracks and the bottom base of the Bulldozer? Why are they calling/labeling this SS86 when Devastator does not design wise look anything like him in the 86 Movie? Hasbro fell short in delaying him for a week and then basically showcasing a somewhat trimmed down/downsized version of the previous Devastator release. Hasbro did not have the energon cubes(balls) to get his cartoon/movie look right! Should change the name to Legacy United Devastator/Constructicons, because this is nothing close to the 86 Movie! One last point, this Devastator looks like a carbon copy of Magic Square's 2nd version of Devastator, but just a much bigger scale(Magic Square fans like me know what I'm talking about!).
Still don't have a Breakdown. No more Combiners for me, can't trust distribution. Besides, the Combiner I already have makes much more sense - he's huge, as combined construction equipment would be!
i ve looked up and down on these reveals and im still disappointed in devastator. he is def super small in comparison to optimus and next to 86 dinobots i feel it will look worse. for ss86 line the articulation is great and more details is an improvement, but we looking at a massive price point for everything that is all deluxes with some accessories...this seems like a big miss when we finally see the end result and pricing after all the dodging they did with this figure for like 2 months. been wanting them to really knock it out of the park on this just feels like a dropped ball in a year with some wins and a lot of misses by the transformers department in comparison to their other IPs. at least magatronus was a good reveal.
@@Shadonicus0652 you can make stable large figures. Obviously larger scale figures will have stability issues, but there are ways around that. If a bot is advertised as studio series, it should probably be accurate to the movie ( within reason of course )
Does Legacy Menasor (and SS86 Devastator) scale with SS86 Optimus and Ultra Magnus? I always thought the combiners were way bigger than “normal” transformers in terms of scale. It looks like the top of Optimus’ head reached the bottom of Devastator!s crotch. Is Optimus too big? Thanks!
SS86 Optimus is too big but Devastator is also way too small. Scrapper and Bonecrusher should be at least as big as SS86 Ironhide (probably a bit bigger, based on vehicle modes) but they appear to be smaller. It sucks that the Constructicons are all planned to be the same size because Hook should really be at least the size of Kingdom Inferno.
My opinion, but i dont think bonecrusher looks good at all the price point between these 2 besides the materials and devys gun doesn't sit well with me at all. Again just my opinion
Man, I dunno. He's too big to scale with the Core Class dinobots, way too small for the Leader Dinobots... and a lot more firplug chonk than most of Devastator's appearances in combined mode. I might just go with one of those infinitely-knocked-off 3p versions (Hulkie I think?) that's about 8-9" tall instead, like I'm going with Newage Romulus instead of a false-advertising "Studio 86" Megatron who turns into a tank, when we see him transform in the 86 movie and it's into a gun. Sure, yes, they can't or won't make a gun altmode in the 2020s, but that just means it shouldn't be in S86 - put him in the main line and I would have no problems, or regular Studio Series as a "G1 Concept Tank Megatron" and I'd have no qualms. This Devy though... I'm just not feeling it, you know? I'd stick with the Wallgreens exclusive Sixbuilder recolor from the Universe subline back mid-noughties but my Hightower has lost half his crane boom somewhere along the way, and the late-G1 articulation REALLY doesn't stand up these days.
I'm not impressed so far. Scrapper and Bonecrusher both have terrible arm designs and I hate that we're getting another Devastator with a mountain of partsforming junk, instead of having Scavenger's and Bonecrusher's treads turn into the forearms. Long Haul's bed should have folded out into Devastator's chest wing as well. Just because it was done that way 40 years ago doesn't mean it should be accepted today.
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Seing how Devastator is going to turn out makes me even more excited for Bruticus
This will devastate my wallet
It'll be more affordable to get SS 86 Devastator as they're being released, instead of waiting for a boxed set. We saw with Legacy Menasor that Hasbro is charging $279.99, when all five of the Stunticons have an MSRP of around $210.
Megatronus will take revenge on my bank account.
@@Kooster69 i thought hasbro charged $180 for menasor box set
Facts
@@Kooster69 ya this is 210 you can get a good unite warrior for less with upgrades for that once this starts to come out.
After 5 years of non stop collecting this’ll be my first significant pass on this combiner team…I’m happy with the Takara devastator…I want to complete my collection not constantly upgrading it….
I'm a little surprised the sculpts for Scrapper, Bonecrusher, and Devastator are very close to their Combiner Wars counterparts. Sure, they're scaled down, but a lot of the Combiner Wars sculpting I didn't consider to be animation accurate is still present in these SS86 demos. Scrapper's alt-mode cockpit for example. Of all the different animation models G1 had for Devastator's head, I don't quite remember which one was accurate to the 86 movie, but the Combiner Wars and SS86 models for the head look as identical as the grey-model will allow me to believe. See 10:56 to compare.
I noticed that too. It bad me worried at first but the more I looked at them the more I’m thinking they’ll be big improvements
@@MandoPrime1138 Oh they're definitely improvements. I'm mainly just curious why Studio Series, which goes for screen accuracy, gave Scrapper something closer to his Combiner Wars silhouette over the on-screen design. The articulation more than makes up for it, though, and I see plenty of other improvements on the grey-model for Devastator.
I agree 100%. Sure this one is newer and is improved, but if you purchased any of the upgrade kits for your CW version it's hard to get that excited for this one. I prefer the larger size of CW. Yeah, it's not Masterpiece size, but it looks great with the smaller MPs.
I have never seen commander class figures in stores...
I saw magmtron in target
I feel like most stores don’t want to stock them because they take up too much shelf space. It’s why you hardly see titans anywhere
That's my fear too we can only get the limbs and never finish him
@@dragonslayer6006 Target is the only place I've seen Commanders and Titans.
I’ve seen magmatrons at one of my local super targets
I wasn’t sold on devy at first. But seeing how it scales and how they’re making the limbs more available. I will definitely pick it up
Curious if they'll eventually give us a full box set or something like that of the yellow re-color for these guys, or if that's also off the table as far as a box set re-release for them
It’s confirmed that there won’t be a box set of these guys in the first year or two of their existence. So if it were to happen, probably wouldn’t be until at the very earliest 2027, and that’s being generous
I was excited to get Devastator in 1985 & I am excited to get this version 40 yrs later. They look great!
Pretty jazzed for the announcements today. Can't wait
I’m going to focus on these set alone next year
Plastic box cover is finally back ! Each bot is a bit small though and there's a lot of hollow i see 😢
Subscribed. You do a good job of informing the community and leaning more into information rather than filling the videos with commentary. Thanks
Finally we will be getting a long haul in scale with his bros, so excited
Awesome reveal! The Transformers Studio Series 86 Devastator with Scrapper & Bonecrusher looks incredible. 🚧🤖✨
This is so awesome! I pre-ordered mine from BBTS today!
woah, the size is good. Gonna be a blast!
My hope rest kn an Orange G2 repaint for these Bad Boys.
Merge for the Kill!
I wonder if his 'smaller' size makes repaints more likely? I would love to see G2, Tonkanator and original Diaclone colours get released.
i hope they fixed the scrapper problem with devastator that the combiner wars suffered from, it happen to mine and go watch Baltmatrix video for more details, it sucks and hope this one isnt plagued by it
Been scrolling waiting for this to drop
Same
I, personally, really like the '86 numbering on the boxes. I'm trying to collect the 86 SS set, and they make a LOT of other SS runs that aren't 86.
Man I haven't seen your videos in my feed in ages.
I’m probably the only one who would want this, but a box set of the Constructicons in the colors of the bay films Constructicons would look really damn cool.
I just noticed, there are no backdrops included for the studio series 86 constructicons?
Lets be honest those were a waste of money
They confirmed they are doing away with numbers and backgrounds.
@@jalengatton ohh never heard of it. thankss
I think that 2025 will be great year. We're getting a brand new tooling for G1 Devastator, while getting a brand new Aerialbots with the Age of Primes line. So we're getting at least two Combiners in 2025.
Great so we gettin devas and superion
Yup I'm going broke next year lol I'll have an incredible collection though
BBTS indicates that SS 86 Scrapper and Bonecrusher are expected to be released in May 2025.
New 14-15” Devastator too small to fight my 86 dinobots, indvidual robots fit Legacy scale. Still got my 3rd party 18” KO Oversized Gravity Builder Devastator to take down the 86 dinobots and Titan class Omega Supream. Robot modes are ridiculously too big to fit CHUG /legacy scale, but i can accept them as some sort of race of bodybuilder transformers.
I knew this figure was incoming. I do not know how he will compare to he combiner wars version.
Looks great, didn't get the CW version but I'll definitely try to get this. After this, Superion and Bruticus, I'm hoping they do a new Predaking (3 Voyagers and a Commander 2 pack of Razorclaw and Divebomb).
I'm sold. It may not be titan class, but as long as it properly scales with the SS86 Dinobots so I can replicate the sludge double fisted slam scene from the movie I'll be happy. LOL 😂
Will we get a separate Takara superior version as we did in CW?
Maybe, like what Takara was doing with Premium Finish and Dramatic Capture lines, then I would be surprised, just no time soon though.
I do hope going forward in Age of the Primes with Superion and eventually Bruticus, that they do the toy deco box set, especially for Bruticus, I was never a fan of the brown chest plate that the og cartoon had for him and I much preferred the big silver chest of the toy. Hopefully there's a way to get that version instead for those that prefer the toy look, especially since Bruticus has such an extreme difference between the two.
On Scrapper, no articulation in the Front Loader bucket. Scavenger as the arm, the excavator's Boom/Arm/Bucket would be better to be removable or being able to tuck in.
I didn't notice that. Wow, they get even worse.
they look great but now that brings vortex inro question why he's this year instead of next year
I'm going to be very busy in 2025, collecting all of the Constructicons in April, July and September next year. Depending on the Australian releases of the Constructicons
I hope this size means we'll get a commander or small Titan Omega Supreme, cool as the old Titan was he really was too big.
Im happy with my combiner wars Devistater but if they release a g2 one I'll get it day one.
I’ll be waiting as I’m still very hopeful to see an official Masterpiece by Takara (now under the banner of MPG) of the 6 constructicons. They must do it and they will I’m sure. I haven’t gotten any other iterations of these other than my vintage Takara G1 figures, for that reason. I haven’t gotten into 3rd party as of yet.
So so were stuck paying for parts and there all basically deluxe class figures. Just say cash grab
Eh, cause I think all the Constructicons should be deluxes, AND Devastator should only be a head or so taller than other Combiners, I see this as an absolute win. Add-on that I didn't get to get CW/UW Devastator and the USKO Devastator I have, while it fits the description, it's fragile, not fun to mess with, and QC issues out the ass. That's assuming you can get it. And why not a third party Devy, like Hercules? Price and rarity, which go hand in hand, but my point stands. At least with this, it will be official, in scale, and hopefully, easily accessible. It ain't Seinfeld, but y'all had to know this was coming, and I'm glad this is the way.
its essentially the CW figures, which already felt like oversized legends class figures - shrunken even more with slight retools.... And PEOPLE... people.... are eating it up.
I feel the same, wtf ??? Expected something new and we get the same cheap looking cw devastator
@ReyRey277 I'm sorry that you feel and act that way 🙂
@philharrison2991 speak for yourself unc. You're trying to attack someone personally bc they don't like a toy YOU like
Talk about irony
@@Rey-Rey2077 mental instability
@@philharrison2991 lmao the irony
I complain about the size of Devy of being to big last night in the stream ,i am glad that he is almost the same size as Menasor !!!
looks promising! devi looks not as clunky as menosaur.
Not sure why they want to mess with the tint of green. The washed put green looks great to me.
He better not partsform anything other than the forearm-hand things and the jet chest thing, that was the best part of the combiner wars version was that he didnt have a ridiculous amout of useless partsforming pieces laying around when they're in their individual modes
I like it this transformers G1 decepticons construction stereo series 86 scrapper and bonecruscher figures
If it was me I would release both his Legs/Feet before his Arms/Fists.
Come to say he's an Improvement of the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors Devastator.
ALSO HOLY PRIMUS MEGATRONUS THE FALLEN?!?!?
So, six deluxe figures worth $150, but with the "up-graded" sizes class is now worth $210. All that before taxes too. Granted it looks great, but was the up grading really worth it? The originals were all a set price for all of them. No matter that a couple of them had extra parts included with them. I remember they were a dollar more than the regular that-size class toy. (A stunticon car was about $5 and a devastator vehicle was $6.) They could've released these as all deluxe class individual toys with the extra parts, but added a couple of dollars to that price point. And it would've been less than $200 for all six of them. That would've distributed the price/cost between all six of them.
Are people ripping on the combiner wars just becsue this new one is happening? Because I love that big green turd
Devastators chest feels off to me like it sitting just a tad bit to low
Another beefy Devastator with a teeny tiny head! That is like a Deluxe or Voyager size head on a Commander or Titan size body! It looked ridiculous 10-12 years ago when they did a Devastator set and it looks even more ridiculous now!
And the sizes are all off. They should all be voyager except for Long Haul. I could see him being Leader class.
yikes its *a slightly oversized legends class set
Devastators “parts forming should just be made up from jobsite stuff, Forman’s portable office, storage containers, tools, extra equipment like a wrecking ball etc miscellaneous similar to a “baseformer” like omega supreme.
They should be parts of the individual robots. Scrapper's and Bonecrusher's treads should transform into the forearms, Long Haul's bed should transform into the chest wing and the head should be stored inside Hook. Only the hands should be separate pieces, and they should transform into a pair of large blasters like the hands in Perfect Effect's CW Menasor upgrade kit.
Just a few thoughts. They show a finished project of Bonecrusher as Devastator's left arm, but didn't show if the arms upwards/downwards movement is from underneath his tracks or between his tracks and the bottom base of the Bulldozer? Why are they calling/labeling this SS86 when Devastator does not design wise look anything like him in the 86 Movie? Hasbro fell short in delaying him for a week and then basically showcasing a somewhat trimmed down/downsized version of the previous Devastator release. Hasbro did not have the energon cubes(balls) to get his cartoon/movie look right! Should change the name to Legacy United Devastator/Constructicons, because this is nothing close to the 86 Movie! One last point, this Devastator looks like a carbon copy of Magic Square's 2nd version of Devastator, but just a much bigger scale(Magic Square fans like me know what I'm talking about!).
oh my gah.... scale-wise its perfect imo.... goodbye wallet 😂
Those legs don’t look right… why are they so offset?
This is Epic, I hope they'll make Masterpiece Devastator soon.
Is it me or the devastator looks hella small?
Still don't have a Breakdown. No more Combiners for me, can't trust distribution. Besides, the Combiner I already have makes much more sense - he's huge, as combined construction equipment would be!
I hope the forearms are not hollow like the cw one and they should have gave him articulated fingers, my god this looks bad
i ve looked up and down on these reveals and im still disappointed in devastator. he is def super small in comparison to optimus and next to 86 dinobots i feel it will look worse. for ss86 line the articulation is great and more details is an improvement, but we looking at a massive price point for everything that is all deluxes with some accessories...this seems like a big miss when we finally see the end result and pricing after all the dodging they did with this figure for like 2 months. been wanting them to really knock it out of the park on this just feels like a dropped ball in a year with some wins and a lot of misses by the transformers department in comparison to their other IPs. at least magatronus was a good reveal.
I like my $30 dx hulkie better
This is cool and yet this will destroy anybody's wallet if they buy this
Why does he look so small? Devastator is supposed to be like 3ish autobots tall.
We wont ever get combiners that properly scale, due to stability reasons, same reason why we wont ever get accurately sized titans
@@Shadonicus0652 you can make stable large figures. Obviously larger scale figures will have stability issues, but there are ways around that. If a bot is advertised as studio series, it should probably be accurate to the movie ( within reason of course )
Pre-orders say available for everyone else at 2PM, but they were still sold out. This is a sueable form of fraud
Does Legacy Menasor (and SS86 Devastator) scale with SS86 Optimus and Ultra Magnus? I always thought the combiners were way bigger than “normal” transformers in terms of scale. It looks like the top of Optimus’ head reached the bottom of Devastator!s crotch. Is Optimus too big? Thanks!
SS86 Optimus is too big but Devastator is also way too small. Scrapper and Bonecrusher should be at least as big as SS86 Ironhide (probably a bit bigger, based on vehicle modes) but they appear to be smaller. It sucks that the Constructicons are all planned to be the same size because Hook should really be at least the size of Kingdom Inferno.
My opinion, but i dont think bonecrusher looks good at all the price point between these 2 besides the materials and devys gun doesn't sit well with me at all. Again just my opinion
Bonecrusher really just has a terrible cartoon deco.
Man, I dunno. He's too big to scale with the Core Class dinobots, way too small for the Leader Dinobots... and a lot more firplug chonk than most of Devastator's appearances in combined mode. I might just go with one of those infinitely-knocked-off 3p versions (Hulkie I think?) that's about 8-9" tall instead, like I'm going with Newage Romulus instead of a false-advertising "Studio 86" Megatron who turns into a tank, when we see him transform in the 86 movie and it's into a gun.
Sure, yes, they can't or won't make a gun altmode in the 2020s, but that just means it shouldn't be in S86 - put him in the main line and I would have no problems, or regular Studio Series as a "G1 Concept Tank Megatron" and I'd have no qualms. This Devy though... I'm just not feeling it, you know? I'd stick with the Wallgreens exclusive Sixbuilder recolor from the Universe subline back mid-noughties but my Hightower has lost half his crane boom somewhere along the way, and the late-G1 articulation REALLY doesn't stand up these days.
Bonecrusher looks terrible, very monochromatic. No details.
I'm not impressed so far. Scrapper and Bonecrusher both have terrible arm designs and I hate that we're getting another Devastator with a mountain of partsforming junk, instead of having Scavenger's and Bonecrusher's treads turn into the forearms. Long Haul's bed should have folded out into Devastator's chest wing as well. Just because it was done that way 40 years ago doesn't mean it should be accepted today.