thanks for the excellent demo! I'm considering the out-of-phase wiring on my Goldtop. Let me add ... I have to give you credit for being doing a great job of studying so many players and their style and tone!
Amazing demo. Some of the best tones on TH-cam. Which there was a better camera/ Mic. But I suppose this was 9 years ago lol. Well done regardless of quality! Probably going to grab these pickups sometime
Noe av det tøffeste jeg har sett og hørt på lenge! Utrolig kult å se deg drive på. Nesten så man må gå til innkjøp av skikkelig Les Paul og kjøre full out of phase. Aldri gjort koblinga mellom Out Of Phase lyd og T-Bone heller, takker for tipset!
@KidAndersen yeah I was listening to your clips of the Redplate -- KILLER. And very versatile. I'm also looking at a couple of the Mesa amps -- the Lonestar Special or the Express 5:25. Have you played either? If you have, let me know your thoughts!
@danakerman this cut is made with a '64 deluxe reverb, an old one, not a reissue. it's my favorite recording amp, but it is just a wee bit too weak to get what i consider a full and muscular sound on stage over a band. that's not true for all deluxes, though... and i don't want to change anything to this one, so i use it for recordings and stuff like this, and take my Red Plate or Wayde amps to the gigs. I record with those too, and i have many other amps. the deluxe has one sound, but it's good
@lollo1991 they come wired out of phase as standard. you can do it to any 2 pickup guitar, but i don't like it on any guitar that doesn't have a volume for each pickup (like a tele or strat) because you can't vary the blend.
@1960sBluesFan They probably feel taht way because you top wrapped them over the stop tailpiece. This lowers the tension on the string, and doesn't allow the string vibration to transfer the guitar body properly, so you're robbing yourself of tone. run the strings through the tailpiece and lower it all the way to the body. This will increase string tension over the bridge and improve the feel and tone.
i agree with that! i tried top-wrapping the strings on my goldtop reissue ('56), and it felt like my old '54 with a wraparound tailpiece, which after a while got real dead and uninspiring to play. the one advantage as far as i can see is that you break fewer strings, so as i result i have left them on, and i'm hardly playing the guitar now... yup. i'm lazy...
@1960sBluesFan like BB, ALbert and Freddie King. it all depends on how hard you play. I use 11's mainly because i play hard, and big strings and high action won't make the guitar 'plink' out, and i feel it gives me greater dynamic range, as my tone will get bigger and louder all the way up to 100 % force from my hands. If i have skinny strings and low action, 50 % force sounds as loud as 100%... If your strings feel like rubber bands to you, then they are too light. Good luck!
Hi Kid, you are amazing ! Just a little question, is your Les Paul straight in the amp or is there any overdrive pedal or boost to get that delicious sound ? Thanks !
@1960sBluesFan On this particular Les Paul ('59 reissue), I have 10s. I put all different strings on my guitars depending on what I plan to do with them (10-52 on my Tele, 12-58 on my ES 175), but on MOST my guitars, my preferred strings are D'addario 11-48. Sounds like you might need some heavier strings there, bro. I also like medium high action and a pretty tight neck and low action at the nut. Having said that, all that is individual and irrelevant, really. Many of my idols use 9's cont.
@G7flat5 Yah I played one not all that long ago in Toronto real nice guitar. My problem is I have a great playing les paul now and as a man with a family I can't justify another expensive guitar I have to many now the wife will kill me spending that kind of cash when I can order these pickups. Oh they have a 4 wire set as well for the push pull pot setup that Page's #2 has with out of phase magnets and coil split.
In the old days blues players used at least 12 gauge strings. Even BB King. I am not sure but your guitar sounds like you use 9 or 10 gauge. I think that this is what makes your guitar not to quite reach that sound that you are looking for.
Then you are limited to only the sound of both pickups on full and completely out of phase. Not nearly as versatile. it's still a cool sound, but a little thin and not es many expressive possibilities. You can also get a push-pull pot so that you can have both out of phase and in phase, I have one on many of my Gibsons.
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LOVE the out-of-phase tones!! Nice to see someone who actually understands it!
Still one of my favorite vids on TH-cam!
That was one of the best demos I've seen of the ThroBaks thanks Kid Andersen. I think Im going to jump on a set.
this tone is so sweet ,you can taste it !!! I am usually a Tele guy, but I am drooling right now ... Well done !
thanks for the excellent demo!
I'm considering the out-of-phase wiring on my Goldtop.
Let me add ... I have to give you credit for being doing a great job of studying so many players and their style and tone!
Amazing demo. Some of the best tones on TH-cam. Which there was a better camera/ Mic. But I suppose this was 9 years ago lol. Well done regardless of quality! Probably going to grab these pickups sometime
Great sounding demo! I *was* set on ordering the SLE 101 LTD's, but these PG's sound awesome as well!
Love yer picking.
Hi Kid, I've got the Bareknuckles PG Blues which do the same thing but these sound very fine, as well.
Excellent playing, Mr A.regards
Jeff Makor
The tone of the Gods Kid!!
Noe av det tøffeste jeg har sett og hørt på lenge!
Utrolig kult å se deg drive på. Nesten så man må gå til innkjøp av skikkelig Les Paul og kjøre full out of phase.
Aldri gjort koblinga mellom Out Of Phase lyd og T-Bone heller, takker for tipset!
MAN this guy's got tone---
That just kicks...Ive got a set of SLE 101 ltd's coming from Throbak...and I cant wait!!
I like that you didn't edit out the phone going off.
these are just the stock gibson pots. i generally haven't messed much with different pots and caps unless something sounds really off to me.
@KidAndersen yeah I was listening to your clips of the Redplate -- KILLER. And very versatile. I'm also looking at a couple of the Mesa amps -- the Lonestar Special or the Express 5:25. Have you played either? If you have, let me know your thoughts!
@danakerman this cut is made with a '64 deluxe reverb, an old one, not a reissue. it's my favorite recording amp, but it is just a wee bit too weak to get what i consider a full and muscular sound on stage over a band. that's not true for all deluxes, though... and i don't want to change anything to this one, so i use it for recordings and stuff like this, and take my Red Plate or Wayde amps to the gigs. I record with those too, and i have many other amps. the deluxe has one sound, but it's good
Great Demo & Great Tone Kid...The Throbacks are the rage! I'm on Gundry's list too. Tick- tock!
@lollo1991 they come wired out of phase as standard. you can do it to any 2 pickup guitar, but i don't like it on any guitar that doesn't have a volume for each pickup (like a tele or strat) because you can't vary the blend.
what a vibrato!!!
@1960sBluesFan They probably feel taht way because you top wrapped them over the stop tailpiece. This lowers the tension on the string, and doesn't allow the string vibration to transfer the guitar body properly, so you're robbing yourself of tone. run the strings through the tailpiece and lower it all the way to the body. This will increase string tension over the bridge and improve the feel and tone.
i agree with that! i tried top-wrapping the strings on my goldtop reissue ('56), and it felt like my old '54 with a wraparound tailpiece, which after a while got real dead and uninspiring to play. the one advantage as far as i can see is that you break fewer strings, so as i result i have left them on, and i'm hardly playing the guitar now... yup. i'm lazy...
@1960sBluesFan like BB, ALbert and Freddie King. it all depends on how hard you play. I use 11's mainly because i play hard, and big strings and high action won't make the guitar 'plink' out, and i feel it gives me greater dynamic range, as my tone will get bigger and louder all the way up to 100 % force from my hands. If i have skinny strings and low action, 50 % force sounds as loud as 100%... If your strings feel like rubber bands to you, then they are too light.
Good luck!
Hi Kid, you are amazing ! Just a little question, is your Les Paul straight in the amp or is there any overdrive pedal or boost to get that delicious sound ? Thanks !
What amp is Kid going through and how is it set? LOVE that spanky clean sound with the bit of bite.
Hi! Awesome sounds!
Only one question: when you got the THrobak PG pickups have you wired 'em out of phase too?
@1960sBluesFan On this particular Les Paul ('59 reissue), I have 10s.
I put all different strings on my guitars depending on what I plan to do with them (10-52 on my Tele, 12-58 on my ES 175), but on MOST my guitars, my preferred strings are D'addario 11-48. Sounds like you might need some heavier strings there, bro. I also like medium high action and a pretty tight neck and low action at the nut.
Having said that, all that is individual and irrelevant, really. Many of my idols use 9's cont.
@G7flat5 Yah I played one not all that long ago in Toronto real nice guitar. My problem is I have a great playing les paul now and as a man with a family I can't justify another expensive guitar I have to many now the wife will kill me spending that kind of cash when I can order these pickups. Oh they have a 4 wire set as well for the push pull pot setup that Page's #2 has with out of phase magnets and coil split.
yeah im with ya DangerousBastard its KILLER 5*
That's a '64 deluxe reverb amp. old one, not a reissue.
The Gibson Jimmy Page #2 model can do all this as well.
In the old days blues players used at least 12 gauge strings. Even BB King. I am not sure but your guitar sounds like you use 9 or 10 gauge. I think that this is what makes your guitar not to quite reach that sound that you are looking for.
No pedals here
Then you are limited to only the sound of both pickups on full and completely out of phase. Not nearly as versatile.
it's still a cool sound, but a little thin and not es many expressive possibilities.
You can also get a push-pull pot so that you can have both out of phase and in phase, I have one on many of my Gibsons.
What amp Kid???