Will a Cheap Greenhouse withstand Texas Size Wind?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we setup a cheap greenhouse that we bought online.
Because this greenhouse is not built to withstand the windy climate of North Central Texas, we reinforce it in three important ways. We also make some arrangements to keep weeds from growing around the green house.
We plan to upload a video every month showing what are growing inside the green house through 2021. Check our Facebook page, East by West Farms, for more frequent updates.
Link for the green house: www.amazon.com...
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One of the best modifications I’ve seen so far, thank you for sharing.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.
Great video!
Thank you!
Great info. I had never thought of driving straight rebar into the ground, and THEN bending it over. So obvious in retrospect. Thanks.
You are welcome. Hope it works out for you.
You have been the most helpful so far ,I am going to completely use the wood board and rebar idea it's perfect thank you so much for your explanation and taking the time God-bless
Thank you very much, glad to be of help.
Thanks for the tutorial. Mine is being shipped and this really helped.
You are welcome. Make sure to put reinforcement inside. Ours green house was destroyed by a 80mph wind. We have a video doing the post-Morten analysis.
Felt Tape would also work for covering the screws. I saw somewhere else that they put a strip on the outside of all the metal bars between the bar and the plastic. They said it was because the heat of the sun on the bars weakened the plastic in those spots and the felt tape saved the plastic.
Make sense. I took the plastic off during summer. Texas sun is just too strong for the plastic.
I like to use pool noodles to keep hardware from rubbing against the plastic
That is a great idea. Will try it next time
There is a vinyl flat strap that is at Lowes and Home Depot. It comes in different widths. This is used in between the hoops to provide extra support for the covering. It helps stop rain from puddling on the covering. I watched a lot of videos, and this was a problem mentioned several times. You may look at this to determine if you need it.
Thank you! I will check it out.
Can you post a link to what you are referring to?
Home Depot sells some little 3ft T posts. I am going to drive 4 mostly
all the way into the ground @ my GH 4 corners. THEN I will take 2
ratchet straps and run them up & over the top of the GH frame hooking
the strap hooks into the T posts. Then ratchet the strops only snugly
and then put the plastic cover onto the frame.
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That sound like it would work very well. Looking forward to see your greenhouse.
Excellent video. I've found budget greenhouse frames are suitable if people make the necessary fortifications as you have done. You've done a great job modifying that greenhouse. I have a permanent year round polycarbonate greenhouse and liked the protective cover for growing so well I built a 16x7 poly tunnel using these frames. i like the 1" galvanized tubing and the engineering is really quite good to Quictents upgraded greenhouse frames. I set mine on 4x4 posts that I anchor into the ground. i then attach a baseboard along bottom on both sides, across the back and front width with a cutout for the door. I then attach a hip board at the 44"H horizontal tubes. I connect both hip/base boards with 1" dble hole pipe straps - 2 per section. I also add 2" deck screws connecting base board to the 4x4s. I then attach channel lock two channels on top of each other on the upper and lower portion of the hip board and then attach channel lock on the baseboard. I don't run a purline or wood beam down the center length, with taunt plastic attached to hip board, the structure is more than stable. For trellising I use EMT horizontal length attached to vertical uprights and horizontal ft. I can stretch string trellis or a single wire attached with screws to the top of the uprights and run a single wire for rollerhooks for tomatoes or peppers. And I use simple nylon pipe strap acround the upper tubes, slip an "S" hook through the holes and hang lighter pots. i use 6mm UV greenhouse PE and attach with wiggle wire holding plastic to the base and hip boards. I use heavy duty pet screen 50x48" completely around the structure from the right side of the front door frame all around to the left front door frame stapling to hip and base board. It keeps varmints/insects out. I then attach a 16x6 piece of plastic along each side for roll up shades for ventilation. I fold the bottom edge of the plastic to insert EMT the full length 16x5 and use pvc clamps to attach plastic to EMT. I can then easily roll up the sides. Also I run a separate 5x15 piece of plastic across the lower back attached to the channel lock wrapping 4ft around the corner on each side to act as wind panels. So that to close up for winter I merely unroll the sides attach wiggle wire to the bottom edge and pvc clamps on the vertical tubes at from and back. I do that for both sides. I build a simple 2x2 frame and staple screening on the inside and attach channel lock around the outer frame sides/top/bottom where I can attach plastic for winter. For the top I attach a 25ft x 12ft greenhouse plastic to the back wall hip rail and draw the plastic down the length of the poly tunnel attaching at the center door transom and the front side hip panels. I then gather the plastic with fingers making accordion type folds and attach to back false door frame that has channel lock on it. This way I don't have to replace the entire plastic if something damages the side or top. And if a 5'2" woman can handle this build I'm positive you and just about everyone else can. Perhaps overkill for some people, but these polytunnels will last 10+ yrs and the plastic lasting 5 years. That's near maintenance free and all for $350 or so. And all buttoned up a structure like this will not freeze down to 28-25*F so it's a true 3 season greenhouse to start early spring/late fall broccoli and peas and tomatoes/peppers in summer. No mildew/fungus insects, just beautiful vegetables. I have commercial grow lights in both polytunnels and the polycarbonate greenhouse along with small greenhouse heaters. I came up with this design patterned after those large commercial polytunnels that last 25+yrs. I grow 3 seasons so these poly tunnels are season extenders for me. I'm 5'2" so a 7ft height is okay for me. In my experience I've got the entire structure off the ground and there's no rust or rot to the frame/structure and can easily handle 45mph winds and erratic storms here in E. TN mtns. Hopefully you'll consider the channel lock with wiggle wire to secure your plastic when you get around to replacing the original cover. And, I added detail to help others who understand these hobby greenhouse frames can be a budget approach to a secure poly tunnel that can survive weather.
Thank you so much. Great suggestions. Our tunnel got destroyed by 80 mph wind. Hope I will find some time this year to build a really robust one. Your suggestions will be of great help.
@@EastxWestFarms sorry to hear the wind took yours down. It's difficult even for permanent polycarbonate greenhouses to stand up to that wind. While flat land is great to garden, it's a curse in high wind areas. You may want to plant a quick growing shelter belt protecting from those SW storms that come your way. At 30-50 ft away it will help to blunt the wind's momentum. With that in mind, I positioned my two poly tunnels and permanent polycarbonate greenhouses sandwiched between my home and 30ft poultry run intentionally to shelter the greenhouses. I'm 50ft away from a forested area that blunts tornado and flat line winds. A couple yrs ago an F1 ran across my property and down neighbors huge trees but my chicken run and greenhouses had zero damage. In the meantime, with my construction approach the poly plastic can easily be taken down and after the storm put back up.
@@tulipsmoran5197 Do you have suggestions for fast growing trees that will do well in heavy clay soil? We definitely need some wind breakers. The previous owner cut down most of the trees so we have to start from scratch.
@@EastxWestFarms Hi you can contact a landscaping company or nursery online that serves your area...
@@tulipsmoran5197 perfect! Thank you.
Really enjoyed your video. I'm thinking of a greenhouse and I've bookmarked your vid.
I must say you speak like an engineer (I'm a mechanical engineer). Toy sound like you have a science / technical background. Love the attention to detail. Great problem solver.
Glad you enjoy it. Yes, I am an aerospace engineer specialized in structures.
@@EastxWestFarms no wonder! It was rather obvious but I didn't want to make a mistake and say so. Enjoyed the building process and thorough thought process of the design. Have a great fall... PS all my family is in TX.... West of Houston mostly. I'm still in Louisiana. 🙂👍
@@philiprobicheaux3040 building and design are what I really enjoy. Wish to have more time to practice these in the garden.
Awesome Job!! Just ordered one of these and thank you so much for detailing the work you did retro-fitting it so it'll last!
You are welcome. Make sure to go through the comments. There are a lot of good suggestions .
Charming Chinese-American lady gave me good practical ideas for setting up our similar green on the windy Oregon coast.
Thank you
You are welcome. Glad that you find it helpful
Awesome thank you for the tips!
You are very welcome. I am glad this is useful.
I did our greenhouse reinforcing similar to yours, but I added wood braces on the sides & rebar to hold it down.
Good video!
Great minds think alike 😆 for now, the green house stood up against strong winds very well. We did use a few 2x4s to support the sides. Eventually we will build some shelves. They will double up as the supports for the sides.
@@EastxWestFarms Absolutely good job!
Thank you. Very informative. I was thinking about using sleepers to secure the frame to but I do like your set up
Sleepers? We got 80mph wind that collapsed the green house. At least the green house did not lift off like a ballon. So I consider that it is a success. LOL.
She is an inspiration ❤️❤️
Thank you for watching. Let’s learn together.
Instead of straight stakes, you can also use spiral dog stakes, sometimes known as horse stakes. They are very hard to pull out, get them at Tractor Supply or Blue Seal. The spiral nature is much tougher to pull out than the straight stakes.
I enjoyed your video. The challenge where I am, in Northern Maine, is lots of snow taking down the structure. I haven't been able to try one yet, nobody has them here except the expensive commercial growers. I hope you have good luck with the greenhouse!
Thank you very much. The horse stake is a good idea. I will try it out for our next green house build.
I just watched a TH-cam from an organic farm in Maine. He plants salads, carrots, etc in winter under movable green houses. He has a large operation though so his green houses are very well built.
I just bought one of these. Thank you for the reinforcing information. I will be building this in my garage and then setting everything up by my shed.
You are welcome! Make sure to add supports inside as well.
You did a great job !! I just bought a greenhouse from Walmart 10 X 20. The cost with tax was about $239. It does have the top pipe. Every brand is made slightly different. It is better to compare before you buy. Some have more side pipes or bars than others. Even with a cheaper one, you will still spend close to $200. There may be a difference on how many hoops each brand has. In a sense, the more the better. I don't have mine installed yet. Many people slightly modify to gain strength. I did make a cattle panel building for storage. I covered it with aluminum siding. Just wire on wood strips inside to screw to. I used one inch thick wood from porch decking.
Good luck with the new green house. The aluminum siding is a 👍. I think I may use some for my next green house project. Because of the strong wind here, I will probably build a sunken green house.
Thanks so much I just brought one and I will do the same for my greenhouse thank you so much your video is very helpful 🤗
You are welcome. Please make sure to add supports inside if you get strong wind in you area. The comments have a lot of good suggestions as well.
@@EastxWestFarms thank you I will 😊
I can’t wait for the day I can put up the greenhouse I purchased 2 years ago. I can’t wait to see your greenhouse in use. Thank you for sharing.😊
Wow. Two years! What is holding you up? I am tired of winter. That is why I set up the green house.
@@EastxWestFarms I moved to a temporary location for work. I’m renting. My next move I will purchase a home. Then I will put down real roots and unpack everything. I’ve lived with stuff in boxes for a long time. I’m tired of living out of a box.😊
@@ClausenWorld so you are doing all these planting at a rented place? That is pretty impressive. Best wishes for getting your own homestead soon.
@@EastxWestFarms yes, that’s why pretty much everything is in a container. I did create and plant up some flowerbeds. Those will stay when I leave. My containers will go with me. Thank you. I appreciate your kindness.😊
@@ClausenWorld did you get your own place for your greenhouse
This is what I've been looking for! Our area doesn't get more than 1/4 inch of snow for about an hour per year, but, the winter winds are a nightmare.
Hope it will work out for you. Make sure that you provide some supports inside the green house
Very good video. I am right on the edge of buying a green house. You were very helpful in sharing all of your good ideas. I subbed to see what yall are doing next and I plan on going to school on your experiences. Thank you from central Texas. Oh yes, could you please provide a link to the Greenhouse that you chose off of Amazon?
Welcome to our channel. Here is the link for the green house we bought. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YJKBLW4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1. We have a follow on video as well: th-cam.com/video/H1hpecRthmc/w-d-xo.html. Make sure that you build trellis or shelves inside as the tubes are not very strong. There are a lot of good suggestions in the comments as well.
Great and best ideas yet going to use all of them.thankyou so much
Make sure you add strong supports inside as well. We have a follow up video showing how to set up supports inside using ash juniper branches
Beautiful 💚
Thank you!
They make good Aviary/chicken houses as well, replace most.of the PE with cage wire/shade cloth, poly roof panels what ever
That is a great idea. I think it will work well.
Very nice work - looking forward to further progress - thanks for the videos.
Thank you.
thank you for sharing your process. I worked in greenhouses for years, but in California. I see few greenhouses in the windy central texas area.
A green house is actually very useful for north central Texas. The summer here is so hot that the plants go into a two month summer dormancy. So the growth season is broken into two short seasons. Extending each by two months using a green house will give you much better production and more varieties. The wind is the big enemy. I have looked at different options and I think a sunken green house probably is the best option. But that would take a longer time to build.
Thank you for sharing this. I bought one and this is very helpful instructions.
You are welcome. We added temporary supports inside. Eventually we will build some shelves that double up as supports. We also wrapped two ropes on top of the green house. So far, it stands the wind very well.
I am looking for that type of greenhouse for my place. I have to put mine down in the field away from trees. The first trees around here have a habit of losing branches in wind storms so in the field that should be the place for it.
Great job you two.
I bought it from Amazon. Here is the link MELLCOM 20' x 10' x 7' Greenhouse Large Gardening Plant Hot House Portable Walking in Tunnel Tent,Green www.amazon.com/dp/B07YJKBLW4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_T2B8HKG11HVQFGHRQMJ9?psc=1. They have a 26’ long one as well. We only had it for a week and it is still standing. So our experience with this green house is limited. Maybe we will be able to give it a better assessment after we have used it for a year. BTW, we also wrapped ropes around it and added temporary supports inside. Chris is making shelves that will provide more sturdy supports and more spaces.
it won't stand up to wind, put it somewhere out of the wind.
Thank you very much for the detailed video. We just purchased 2, 10'x25' greenhouses. While ours did come with the top support beam, I found your video super helpful detailing out how to build the bottom frame. I used 4-foot rebar for ours due to the nature of the sandy soil here in Henderson County Tx. We used the rebar in the corners and 2 on each side since our greenhouse was so long. We also used eyehooks attached to the bottom frame at every hoop and used 500lb paracord to do a criss/cross pattern across the top of the frame to keep the cover in place along with the standard Velcro straps on the inside of the cover.
How has your greenhouse withstood winds so far? Any majors issues with the frame bending? Did you utilize any addition frame support (after this video) to keep it from bending/breaking with wind? Our first storm system is due to come through in a few hours so we'll see how our retrofit stands up!
Make sure that you build some supports inside to prevent the frame from bending. We did not do it at first and a strong wind broke a few of the supports. We were be able to build it back with some branches as reinforcements. We have a video showing the rebuilding. So far it has been able to stand up with some very strong wind storms. There are a lot of good suggests in the comments as well.
Awesome video and great information
Thank you very much, Barbara
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.
Great job!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you. 🙏
A potential problem- If you are going to lay untreated wood on the surface, be prepared for termites that live in the soil. Do you think that weed block will protect the wood?
That is a good question. We painted the wood with some water proof black paint. The green house collapsed because of 80 mph wind but the wood still looks ok.
What did you do to protect the greenhouse from getting the water belly on the top when it rains?
I retrofitted it with a top bar. That seems worked well. Our biggest enemy is strong wind. The green house stands no chance against 80mph gust. LOL.
I feel your pain trying to get that landscape fabric down in the wind.
Thank you! The wind here is no joke. It is a pain.
Where did you purchase your green house and the cover ?
I liked it very much and your video's
Please advise
We bought the green house from Amazon, mellcom green house 20x10x7ft. The cover is included. The pipes are not very strong so you will definitely need to add some supports inside.
Is it still up?
It is! The cover got beaten up pretty bad but the green house is still standing.
How did you keep the green top from flying away?
We wrapped two ropes over it to keep it down. Otherwise, the green top blow up like a ballon with a strong wind.
How is the green how stand up to the wind so far? I am from 50 miles east dallas Texas.
So far it is still standing. But all the poles are broke so we have to build a wooden trellis inside. The cover also have some damage. We almost had a tornado a couple of weeks ago.
Can you add a link to the hoop house you bought?
www.amazon.com/dp/B07YJKBLW4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share. Make sure that you add supports inside as the poles are not very strong.
@@EastxWestFarms Thank you for your reply. I wish you A Happy Healthy New Year.
@@pennyarizzio2824 Happy New Year 🎊
Can we see the inside of the greenhouse?
Hi Jouan, you can find few videos that show the inside of the greenhouse on our channel.
The latest one is at
th-cam.com/video/XV1LzLRin84/w-d-xo.html
title "Cheap Greenhouse for year-round food supply".
Or check the playlist "Greenhouse" th-cam.com/play/PLDXYgqRQse0Dwl--JEgxl3gUuIJ352vpx.html
which part of texas? I plan to build a backyard greenhouse. I want to build a permanent green house but I worry about the summer heat.
About one hour south of Dallas. The permanent green house would need big windows or air-conditioning. Otherwise, it will be like an oven in summer.
@@EastxWestFarms you are a lot colder then me. I live in Houston Texas. Thank you for your advice
no, it will not!
You are right. It won’t stand as it is. With some reinforcements and rebuilding, the green house is still standing. Fingers crossed.
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I dont see a point period for a green house in our region when temps reach up to the hundreds you should only do so in the fall and winter
That is what we did. Putting the cover on in late fall and pull it off in spring. We use the frame as trellis in summer