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All the books in this world are written by Humans 😊
Prove this bro
Yes 100 percent bro human wrote it
@@STUDENT-OF-ISLAM518 bcoz animals don't speak & write english,persian,hindi
@studentofIslam-ce1sk how can a being who does not have a physical form in this world write in a human language on a physical object such as a book. If god is not a person like us should he speak Arabic or any other language. Also did god discover earth 1400 years ago or 2000 years ago that he sent a rule book to follow. If some omnipotent creator wanted to share something with us wouldn't it have been through the beginning from adam(as the belief in Bible and Quran says)
@@VaibhavSingh-nv9tf sure he send from Adam to Muhammad s.a
.w you should need more attention please
Just like DC can prove the existence of Batman. 😄
Hmm maybe your ignorance is typing
@@nsayyed5469Batman revealed himself to him.. i didn't know how to type before the reveal of the Batman himself.. exactly like Mhd..
@@prithwipatil5813I am real
@@shahrock6969 No doubt.. I am fully convinced my lord🙏
@@nsayyed5469 I don't know if god exists. I can't know that. I would need more proof. Because as per the general scenario. he's not very good at granting prayers and wishes. So I wouldn't spend time and pin hopes on some invisible force which might not exist. I'd rather use the time to entertain myself or do something useful which has a better chance of giving results.
I felt that the caller is dealing with aspects of his religion and he is open minded enough to want to discover the truth. Thanks vimoh. This was a really nice discussion.
Religious people don't realise that if their scriptures with 'supposed' smart things written in them proves God, then the same scriptures with full of contradiction, unscientific, illogical and inhumane things written in them proves that this God is not so smart, vile and an evil monster.
Hi luffy
@@udhayveersingh1855 Hellow Nakama 🤟🏼🤣
😂😂
@@warrior_of_liberation there's nothing in quran which can be proven wrong
If God is all good he cannot be all powerful, if he is all powerful, he cannot be all good - lex Luthor ,😁😁😁
Good debate. Keep up the good work, Vimoh. 👍
09:59 Can we all take a moment, just to applaud this beautiful answer !!!
He came to conclusion that people of future gave the knowledge to people of past?
Prove the conclusion first may be and then may be we can argue that people from the future came back.
U r just saying things whixh u literally cannot prove.
Right now do u have a conclusion that u can prove about the knowledge that has been written” in the book???
But again the question is Why we have to believe out of all the options, GOD (Allah) has sent down the QURAN.
1. Challenge: Allah swt challenges in the Quran, no other being can produce even a single verse of Quran even they try to;
Quranic Verse : And if you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down to our servant, then produce a chapter of the like." (2 23)
This Single Quranic verse dismisses ur entire logic that Quran was indeed sent down by the creator.
2. All the scientific knowledge that is been present in the Quran, evolution of embryo, etc, ofc we will not dive into this much as the question of the hour is prove that this knowledge is from GOD.
3. historic knowledge evidences : many historical knowledge findings were also recently discovered by mankind
4 Lingustice Miracle. If u research more on Quran, u would come to about the lingustic miracles that Quran has.
@@substantialleague939 that same thing goes for god also
@@substantialleague939 making verse is subjective matter.when the Quran challenges that no one can produce even a single verse like it, it's essentially a theological statement. It's not something that can be objectively measured or proven in the way we might measure a scientific fact.
@@substantialleague939 can you prove me that moon split happened 1400 years ago ?
I lost it at cosmic zebras 😂😂😂
I use 'wriggly pink hippos' in my argument 😅
Appreciate the way you both conduct the conversation.. very decent
It is so heart breakingly pathetic the depths our entire education system has sunk to, that you have adults otherwise claiming to being "educated" in the formal, twisted, convoluted sense of that term, who do not have the slightest understanding of the basic difference between a CLAIM and EVIDENCE. And this I can say with an ever strenghthening conviction being a teacher for 30 odd years in my interactions with even post grads, let alone students of lower denominations. And it is only getting worse with extreme rapidity with ever burgeoning religious obscurantism, amplified conspiracy theories thru the virus of antisocial media, moral policing, and the slow yet systematic subversion of the basic constitutional character of representative democracy centred around the separation of church and state. In all these decades seldom have I come across a student with even the most rudimentary skills of critical thinking, skepticism and rationality, so much so that before even touching any of the core subjects that I teach, I have made it mandatory for these unfortunate ones to learn the basic structure of logic so that they atleast have an escape route out of the hell hole that we call the Indian education system.
I agree, but what can be the solution to this ? Because people have a tendency to switch off their critical thinking in certain areas of life though they might be highly educated or skilled in their domains.
If it gets switched off there ain't much of it to start with.@@saikat93ify
True
500 years from now some people will worship Danerys Targaryen, mother of dragons and say It was revealed to Holy George RR Martin by the heavenly being.
George will be the trickster god coz he fooled everyone into thinking he'll finish the book
One thing is really appreciated. The Muslim guy is really putting an effort to read hindu scriptures . How many Hindus have read Quran ? . We all need have an open mind then this religious intolerance will go
I think you haven't met those people. Since I am also seeing a Muslim putting an effort reading Hindu scripture for the first time. Nothing wrong but we need to consider broad spectrum of these things.
Am not gonna read either
Vimoh you just awakened atheism in me once again i was atheist since childhood but i become irrational for sometime.
it happens often with everyone its because we live in a highly relgious society
I switched between thiest and athiest a lot in past 5 years and now in the athiest phase
@@dv9239 what made u switch to being an atheist
I want to be religious person /guided by religious morality...but
From childhood i am atheist i am moral person...but.i want that fear of god to preserve degradation of morality...
I want my children to be happily indulge in religious task. While being rational.
@@adarshrathiiiiiiiiiiiii i don't think fear of god can preserve degradation of morality
Hi,Vimoh, I want to know your point of view on purpose of creation that has in Abrahamic Religion ( Adam and Eve committed a sin in influence of Devil) in compared to Hinduism and other asian religion , that stress focus on creation and creator are altogether.
Loved it, hard to have a sensible discussion about religion.. Hats off to both the caller and speaker to stay respectful and objective. I hope the caller finds truth.
My crush is a hardcore religious muslim and we a debate every single week..... she's a highly intelligent person academically, a MBBS student. rational about most things but when it comes to religion, she's just blind. As vimoh said Social conditions plays a really really huge part in forming one's way of thinking.
She even says if i gotta marry her I'll have to convert to islam and acc to her allah sent her in my life to make a path for me to islam....like brooooo 😭
Your second paragraph is where line must be drawn. Everything is fine as long as religious people don't lump the same beliefs on us.
Evolution ko sach manti h kya?
@@rish8184 partiall manti hai, as expected. I was soo surprised ki ye ek mbbs student ha and ise evolution pr doubts ha
@@marketeer813 yes we've talked about everything, firstly as expected she's a homophobic...and I support LGBtq most of our debates have started bcz of this...she claims we should ban this
@@mother.95 exactly, I do like her she's a great human being..but I've made it very clear infront of her that Im not changing my beliefs to please her or anyone else
There is abundant evidence that even that book is compiled in a period of 200 years, not an unaltered version from year zero.
Compilation and invention are 2 different things. Also, it was fully compiled till the time of Abu Bakr. The very first Khalifa after Prophet Muhammad. So its like only 2 years after his death. It was re compiled at the time of Usman..who was like 12 years after Prophet Muhammad,who was one of his companions into a single Arabic dialect and other dialects were destroyed to avoid inconsistencies. When u say compile, u mean that it was available in scattered form. The verses written on skin, wood, stones etc. It was compiled into a single book. 200 years later the book was being practised all over the muslim empires
Is it that much difficult to understand what Vimoh argues? Enemies of reason!
If a book has 10 future predictions and out of which 9 things are right and the 10th thing is wrong then creator of the book was unable to make the 10th prediction so the creator himself is uncertain about the 10th thing this concludes that he is not a Supreme infinitely knowledgeable entity and hence he is not god
Hahaha and religious texts have only less than 50 percent prediction correct
If I predict 1000s of things
Many things can comes true but it will not be 100%
Bring me one prediction in Islam that has not been correct go ahead bro 👍
@@Garena_fuelbring me 1 prediction that has been correct
Gentleman be like, Sure, sure sure.. For every question 😂😂😂
I thought that exact same thing. I was even about to comment "Sure"
sure !@@ashwanthickasuhirthi1435
Interesting discussion.. I like the way you answered him..
They first believe that their scriptures are ultimate. Then they base everything on it... I have been watching quite a lot of discussions on this channel, but none of the believers could come out with something sensible for backing up their beliefs..
Nice and civilised debate/discussion.
This guy is definitely find his icon in Zakir Naik
Yeah that’s why I abjectly match lines about vedas
It's 😂 simple , just read Sky Book 📚 once in your mother tungue ...the you will understand Joker 🃏 Nalaik
Download: The curse of God how I left Islam- Harris Sultan
Hello Vimoh can I register myself as a non religious person according to law is there anything according to law that accepts me as a non religious person... and can a non religious person apply for government jobs
India doesn't have the rule that u need to follow a religion to get a government job.
No absolutely no 😂
12:40 Flawless logic, I don't like agree with any of your Politicals stances and find them stupid but truly jitne atheistic arguments hai They are perfect. A Rational person can be Curious, Atheistic, Agnostic,Skeptic only. There may exist a god but that thing that may or may not be god will not he anything like the god we hear in religions. Only the upnaishads make a logical point but again cant prove that so At the end it will Agnostism.
What does the upnishad say about the God that possibily may exist logically
Really liked the guest's approach in the second half, he was calm and had the patience to listen!
Keep it up vimoh 😊😊
Great work vimoh
The Qur'an proves people invent their own gods to match their sociopolitical needs.
The simplest explanation for how the Qur'an - or any other ancient text - has things in it that people could not have known is that it didn't, and the evidence for that is nobody explaining it that way until after it became known.
Before it became known, it was understood in a completely different way.
What are you babbling man.explain it clearly
So your saying it's the matter of interpretation. All the statements are written so vaguely, that It depends on the reader to interpret it.
As a Christian, I respect vimoh’s thinking process and his thoughts on religions. My good wishes with you brother. GOD bless.
Thanks but everyone appreciates it when someone else's religion is critiqued.
11:50 when something couldn't have been known by humans back then then the source is supernatural and that intelligent being that revealed the knowledge is what we call as GOD. Just put human ego, that says human is the most powerful being, aside and try to acknowledge the possibility of some infinite intelligent being that shared a slight but of knowledge with us, humans.
Man asking a question is open minded . That how you learn and become resonable . VImoh lots of love
No extra points to Vimoh for being so composed. That's only expected from him. But I really appreciate the man on the other end. Very surprisingly for a religious man, he is nice, gentle and behaving in a gentlemanly way while arguing with an atheist.
Isn't it interesting that that caller hasn't found any contradictions 'yet' in his holy book...
I was brought up as a Christian (now an atheist)... i can give you a thousand contradiction in what we supposed to be my Holy Book
let him have his journey. he seemed open minded enough. he'll get there
@@vimoh Wow... Vimoh... It's awesome to get a reply from you
can u share them? the contradictions... where can i find them
Nobody can make someone believe in god thts why even in Qur'an Allah says to prophet that his job is only to convey the message !!
Dear Vimoh i really appreciate your patience ❤
Hi sir and to all his subscribers...
I have a request to all of you.
Sometime few years back i found sadhguru interview held in UPES university in Dehradun, Uttarakhand.
In which it seems that he is threatening indirectly the student to file cases against her.. When asked about elephant corridors land allegations ..
Now i cant find that clip on TH-cam.. Please sir you can contact UPES for video they will not share with me i am nobody.
Sir, one peaceful and respectful debate with @muftiyasirnadimalwajidi on existence of God
As usual vimoh is destroying the claims😂
13:44 fallacy of common denominator
How can we talk to you?
I think caller is in the exploring phase now. It's a good thing. So my suggestion to caller is, first measure your moral ground, I mean where do you stand as a human, let's find out first. For example, if all knowing god said you to kill someone if someone just criticize him what would you do? If someone draw a cartoon about your prominent religious figure what would you do? In your eyes where your wife or women in general stands? Should they have equal rights as man or they can be just treat as child producing 'agricultural land'? What women or anyone should wear, eat? Would you like some intervention from your country about those topics (e.g what you can wear & eat)? Do you like diversity? Would you like if government would treat you differently based on your religion & if your not from their favorite religion would you agree to become second class?.............After finding the answer about these question then read Quran. Look there how a non Muslim is treated there, how a entity who creates the universe reacts to human criticism, Look how women is treated etc.....Then ask yourself if truly omnipotent being who created the whole universe, every star, every planet, every dust & debris can think this narrowly?
1) Read why Uthman burnt all the different versions of quran .2) Quran was not written down during the time of Mohammad
3) Mohammad himself told some verses and withdrew it later - satanic verses
4) Even in todays world there are umpteen versions of quran in Africa and Asia.
"trust me bro"
@@nyxythebaddie Google it
I found those people more strange who thinks that all religions are illogical but in which they are born has at least some logic😃
In fact there is nothing well documented. First books on seerah or life of prophet was written almost after 150 years of his death. Then the first books of Hadeeth were written almost after 250 years. sab gol maal hai jeeee
source?
After 250 years they compiled hadeeths not written
@@upscaspirant5666 lol you don't find any hadees from Mohammad's period
They claims to understand the universe n his creator but in reality they can't even get up the logical fallacies
And more of that he has to prove that the all mighty being is not only any all mighty it will be necessarily the specific all mighty of any specific religion.
So even if it is proved that there is God then also the burden of proof is that the god is of your religion.
Because Every God had it's own unique Charector
Sir antim sakshi Wali video link chahiye
wo ab youtube pe nahi hai. mere Instagram pe mil jayega
More and more I'm watching you I'm enjoying your conversations and explanations still I'm a believer and my definition of believer and God little different, I think more on a moral grounds, unlike any other hardcore believer who's ready to sacrifice an animal on the name of religion.
I find Vimoh's argument quite good even tho i m a believer of god it's funny how the man was able to find no of contradictions in other religion without a single evidence but the book that was meant to be studied(as whole) from childhood he is yet to discover contradictions and i who haven't even read the book can present no of verses contradicting the logic(thanks to the ex- muslims). Thier loyalty to the faith🤯
Do you have contradictions in quran.if yes, please can you present it to me , I have to debunk quran.thanks .
@@dannystark7668how are you on youtube and searching for your answer in comments instead of typing it in the youtube search bar?
God of the gaps....How can an unlettered man recite beautiful arabic verses
1. Maybe he was a good poet. He was gifted with words.
2. Maybe his scribe made sure the normal stuff he wanted to write was written in a flowery way, the way we use Chatgpt to write our letters and essays
3. Maye the book is a gorup work written by a group of people of their own interests decades after his death.
Somethign is mysterious, hence GOD exists, is a nonsense argument.
discussion going on only one questions.....person joined doesnt have complete knwledge and struggling to answer....but if the same question asked to a scholar definately he cld.
Simply put, there is no clinching evidence whatsoever to the existence of god "the creator of the world". People tried to philosophically explore the "agencies" behind various things that they were experiencing and also tried to delve into an eternal question of why we are here and where do we go? I would say it was a courageous attempt on their part and they were successful in building the societies around the concept (and also destroying them). Nonetheless, it is very difficult to get rid of that albatross so easily and people might go through a trauma while doing so.
I wonder what's the difference between thinking we are in a MATRIX and that there is ONE GOD to whom we will have to answer for our actions. I mean if we being in MATRIX is hysterically, how is there being a GOD not ??? Just feels the more and more I listen to arguments of religious people, I am edging more and more towards Atheism... Although the idea of GOD and praying to a god helps me with my anxiety(PS neurodivergence), it's the sheer ignorance of theists which is pushing me towards atheism.. Ayush to hoors, everything makes me feel god is extremely narsicisstic and keeps asking me to be greatful to him in every religion .. Make it make sense ..
Belief is not knowledge but without belief there is no question of knowledge at all.
Can anyone explain what is black and what is white
The series of Harry Potter is more logicaly consistent and put together better than Quran.
Gotta give credit where it's due. At least the theist wasn't too rude as compared to others in his community.
Rude people exist in every religion
@@vimoh By community I meant theism in general not any specific religion.
Apko hindi substitutle dena chaye.
He wanted to be like Zakir naik but got totally roasted 😂
Good counter arguements
host : tell me one faith or book you can use as evidence so we can go further to discuss w
hat is the evidence
guest : Explaining the doctrine of islam, how God created this universe and sent his messenger
guest (interrupting) : but the same concept is there is other religions
problem : without realising that that won't make any difference expect that it made thai claim stronger.
host : why do you believe Quran is any different
guest : as it can be traced back to it's very origin (and is found to be preserved, I belive he would have said if allowed)
host: Christians and Hindus trace their scriptures too (to what, he never explained, forget about preservation)
problem: clearly an ignorant statement as No Christian in the world can claims the Bible to be preserved, there were 104 of them, only 4 we're kept later by people (not Jesus), even Hindus haven't claimed the vedas to be eternal, they also use other book with has contradictions with Vedas
Vimoh! then WRITE that one book where you write 10 things and 9 of them comes as true and one of them is wrong.. Challaenge!! is to write a single such things, which humans are not aware about it yet, It must contain information about the future i.e. Prophesies. It must contain scientific information which is unknown to us today and which will only be verified in the future sometime. Write one such verse, Quran has, ik you can't write a book which has 10 things , 9 of them comes out as right or 1 wrong, you can't write a single thing vimoh. Come on, don't put such foolish argument, if you haven't even read quran, don't judge all the religion on the same way.
The point is that even if someone does write that one book, it will not be proof that that one thing must be true.
Here's a spider man comics that says spider man exists. It is written right in the book.
Vimoh, one really small suggestion. I take an agnostic stance in these matters, but in my opinion you should really allow the opposition to state their points completely, without much interruption. People you argue against come with their own set of beliefs. It is already a difficult task for these people to grasp the logical fallacies in their arguments, and the constant interruption doesn't really help. Or it could just be me who feels this way. Kudos!
if you've seen this video, you know i allowed him to make his full case and only then started asking questions.
@@vimoh as I stated, it could be just me who felt this way 😀
Wow... New மொட்ட பாஸ் look.... Awesome buddy
translate please
translation (mota boss)@@vimoh , slang which refers to Rajnikanth
@@vimoh
These Tamil words refer to Rajnikanth's character in the 2007 movie 'Shivaji'
Here is how he looked in that movie
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Literal translation
மொட்ட = Shaven head
பாஸ் = Boss
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV. (Bible)
If he cannot know them, what are you trying to explain?
@@vimoh Thank you. There is a gulf of a difference between knowing about and knowing in reality. The man who rides a bicycle has experienced the bike, and is so much more at an advantage than those who know about bikes, but have never ridden one. The same is true with God. We can only experience God and such is in Spirit. Relationship with Him is in Spirit and such is true life. He gives to us, and such a relationship is now on His terms which is faith. Without faith, we can only pretend to know Him on our terms. All the theology, all the scriptures, all our isms and philosophies, all the debate, all our knowledge is but of the human mind and that is not true life. Scripture becomes of great value if God energises such with His life as we read. No scripture can prove the existence of God, indeed no worldly metric can prove (or disprove) who He is, as He is Absolute. Debate about Him , in the end, goes nowhere, save to establish our own misconceptions. The only way is to know Him is in faith, which is a gift from God.
So make up your mind. Can god be known or not known?
Gaslighting
@@vimoh Of course He can. But it has to be on His terms. However, His terms are open to all.
When I left my religion I felt truly free.
Quraan historicity is highly debatable. You can't actually prove that it is conserved properly
It always amazes me that most Indian people are ready to believe anything on the grounds of such flimsy facts. Most people don't understand the absolute rigor that is necessary in academic setting to present any claim as fact. They think hearsay and third/fourth person accounts written hundreds of years ago can be accepted as fact
It’s true for any religious community from all countries not just India. Indians can be atheist and secular humanist who believe in rationals vimoh is one of them. You should have used the word religion not Indian. Indian is means people or citizen of India. who can be Hindus, Muslims, Jains, Buddhist, Christians, Parsi ( zoroasters which I am pretty sure you have non in your area ) ( we have the second largest population of Muslims and one of the largest Christian population in the world entire north east is Christian). Don’t confuse Indian word with a religion just shows your ignorance. Now waiting for you you edit your comment or make a comeback. Cheers mofo.
Utopian guy seriously mofo that’s name you are going with you are someone who just read tempest and some essays about it and never even figured out that its impossible to have utopian society( actually is it’s like having heaven which is impossible to have) because one needs to blissfully happy and not have knowledge to be agree with utopian society because it’s conformist mofo.using the word utopia is a punch line to you mofo. Please don’t tell me the origin of the word is actually Greek cause you didn’t know it even.
@@sunilsingh-vf5qn
I have used Indians here because that is my primary experience being Indian myself, those are the group of people I know most about and I primarily associate/concern myself with. Apart from India I have lived in United States for over a decade and I can claim to know United States and its people as well to a certain extent but my formative years were spent in India and hence my thoughts by default are from an Indian perspective
I agree that religious people from all country will behave and think in such biased manner. However, here we are not talking about an exclusively religious person. The concerned individual in the above video claims that he is trying to learn about all religions and trying to find truth in his own way. Such people need to be more thorough and vigilant in their analysis if they want to seek truth
Apart from this I still stand by the fact that most Indians are really shallow in their arguments and don't really understand the difference between facts and opinions. I can say this with more confidence after having lived in United States and having had countless discussion on religious topics with people here in United States. Not saying that people in United States are 100% rational in their approach in fact they are far from it but there is more general awareness of difference between fact and opinions and the level discussion is not so unsophisticated. For example, people don't call someone motherfucker because they don't like their opinion.
I believe this Universe was created by a Jaadui chhipkali. And that chhipkali gave us the power to think and create stuff. But it did not give us the power to climb walls. And that is why the world is crumbling right now, because us humans have now started innovating and climbing walls. The Jaadui chhipkali does not like it.
PROVE ME WRONG !
Your cult sounds interesting I wanna join :D
No😤
I believe in Flying Spaghetti Monster
Evidence can be multifold - as simple as - look around you and name something that came into existence by itself .... and could be as nuanced as the Qur'an and its miraculous nature. What Vimoh saying about the documented structure is all BS without specifics. God exists because the Qur'an says He exists. The Qur'an makes claims about itself and about God, those should have been discussed. I would encourage Vimoh to read the Qur'an and then probably discuss on the specifics.
The argument the other guy was making was perhaps - Qur'an exists - it's a uniquely patterned book that has been incredibly preserved and has no contradictions. It was revealed to a man who known to be trustworthy in his community (as per historical accounts that aren't Muslim) and couldn't read or write. So either he copied it, came up with it on his own or someone gave it to him who wasn't known to the people then (else they would've all believed) ... and you can build the argument from there on.
@@mhmmdmz there are lot of contradiction in Quran and Quran is not 100% preserved
There are different versions of Quran.
Let’s not speak in generalities.
Can you prove that the earth and stars are selfmade
13:44 fallacy of common denominator
Vimoh's focus is phenomenal
7:50 "If there are verses that cannot be explained, how does it prove that god exists". He knew where to look.
The point here is: How can you believe or understand something written when there is no explanation by it. It would be like reading a foreign language that you don't understand.
Edit: Great going with the Socratic method Vimoh 👍
Edit 2: Really carrying out the meaning of your name man 😂 Vimoh - Disillusionment
@Vimoh i know what you did there.
Vimoh, I would kindly ask you to go through the Quran once. Take the English translation, if you are interested, I will get you in touch of an Islamic scholar (A proper one, not like clergies in our subcontinent) who will solve your doubts, explain the Tafsirs and the stories or why the verses were revealed and into what circumstances. This might take 1 or 2 months maximum ig.
It actually sounds bit weird as a viewer that a person who hasn't gone through study of a certain religious scripture places the certainty of its not so divine origin. As a Muslim, I invite people to find mistakes in Quran, the factual or even grammatical. Because that's what many Muslims rely on, if something can't be proven wrong, there has to be a more than assumption that other things it says have Truth.
Someone who say unlitered for illiterate is not a strong defender
To prove your religion, you have to talk irrational stuff. The guy tried to rationalize his talk, and proved nothing.
İf you want to talk about gods existence, i will join your live streaam. İm in Melbourne Australia. İf you tell me the time i can join to discuss
Sure. Come to the live stream channel any saturday at 8 pm.
@@vimoh I don't know what time 8pm refers to it depends where you live. Which countries 8pm do you mean?
@@HappyBloke818 pm IST
He resides in India
He never got back to me. All good
This guy doesn't know how Quran was compiled. Watch some Jay Smith content.
VIMOH-: May I know your religion ?
Caller -: For the sake of arguements lets not disclose it.
VIMOH-: Are you born in Muslim ?
caller-: Yes !!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
A book or a book by eyewitness is not an evidence for God.
The guy who claims that quran hasn't had any change since it was given to Mohammed by God doesn't know that the Qur'an has as many as more than 20 different versions and has words and sentences which are entirely different from one another.
Actually many countries in Africa follow a different version of quran than the one followed in the Arabian Peninsula 🤦🏽
Mohammad claims that Qur'an is from God, if you ask them what is the proof they will say that it's written in Qur'an. The you will ask who told you so then they will say that Mohammad said so🤦🏽
It's like a circle you will go from Mohammad to quran to God and then from God to quran to Mohammed 😀
1)Rabat - Henry Klassen , famous scientist in the field of stem cells, has converted to Islam.
2)After Shaun King (American writer and activist) and Dr. Henry Klassen, American rapper Lil Jon Accepts Islam
3)Danny Lambo, the British billionaire
4) Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) legend, and pioneer of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), Royce Gracie has converted to Islam
5)Renowned Dutch actor Donny Roelvink accepts Islam
6)José Morais, the Portuguese coach of the Iranian football club Sepahan, has converted to Islam
And there is more, just google who forcibly converted all these people, they themselves converted after studying Islam
Aab ye log luli katwana chahte hai katwaye...
I didn't find any logic in vimoh's refutation
I didn't find any logic in existence of Allah
@@dear_imran i didn't find any logic in coming from an faje muslim id
Lakum deenukum waloyadeen
@@dear_imran ♣️Scientific miracles of islam ☪️
🌟human has 360 bones -Sahih Muslim 1007 a
🌟sea sets fire -(Surat At-Tur 52:6)
🌟universe expanding -51:47
🌟The sun moves in its path36:38
🌟moon split (Quran 54:1-2).
🌟finger tips are unique Quran 75:4
🌟earth is not flat - 79:30
🌟iron is not from earth-57:25
🌟firons body preserved- yoonus 10:92
🌟sky is black -70:8
🌟endurance activities that burn fats not short distances -22:27
🌟Quran 96:16
A lying sinful forehead.
“A lying sinful forehead” today we know that this where lies are concocted.
🌟Fear is felt in the heart just as in the brain-3:151
🌟A lightning strike can cause temporary paralysis-51:44-45
🌟Alzheimer’s loss of memory is linked to old age-16:70
🌟Shock is one of the factors that could turn hair color to white.-73:17
🌟The heart has brain cells-22:46
🌟Brainstem is linked to both sleep and death.-39:42
🌟pupils dilate when humans lie-40:19
🌟The blood vessels in the lungs constrict when oxygen level drops-6:125
@@MohammedYusha He can be exmuslim
Like I am exhindu Atheist
Traya ad in between 😂😂😂
Just feel your sinew and the breath you aquire down to those Lungs where it further uses it to airate your blood with enough oxygen so that your brain could use it for gushing thought process and other functionality. All system in a rythmic harmony as an impeccable piece of design. Did you ever wonder why it is a piece of gobbledygook evolution and not a creation of one "necessary being"?
Evidence
@@vimoh What piece of evidence is required? About the existence of a necessary being? Or about this nihilistic apathy which every atheist has to offer in a dish of self fledged intellectualism?
If God exist and you think he is most powerful and absolute then God is meaningless and if he is not powerful then he will not be able to help everyone !
God exist or Not it's only human issue
Which was created by human. No other species on earth believe in God except human! Which people think is our creator
The person defending the existing of God through Qur'an is making Zakir Naik's points. Quite literally.
Okay what type of evidence you need for believe in God ?
Rejector of God demand to measure the height and width of him to believe.
“Are these people waiting for God to come to them in the shadows of the clouds, together with the angels? But the matter would already have been decided by then: all matters are brought back to God.” - Quran 2:210.
It depends of Definition of God.
Thre are 1000s of God's definition.
@@badralhind8264lol no Atheist will say We need to measure height and width of Allah.
We need evidence not some Verse from Quran that sounds logical but can't provide evidence.
I can write a book of God of Tits and wine(from Game of Thrones).
@@indianatheist1 🤭just metaphorically said that bhai. Well, You people ask for empirical evidence.
@@badralhind8264 Ignorant Person wi ask such things
Sure! Sure! Sure!
Insani kalam kesa hota hai?
A:Insani kalaam me trial or error se banta hai
Khuda ka kalaam kesa hota hai?
A:khuda ka kalaam trial or error se paak hota hai
Yes QURAN is God word because Quran has no trial and error
😂😂😂😂
@@prashant-bm4fp bro ilmi behas karo jab jwab ni hota to aksar insaan aisi harkaat karty hai jwab do
@@STUDENT-OF-ISLAM518 so God's word came after 4000 years of starting of the world civilizations ? Bro that's not God's word. Quraan copied texts from Egypt, rome, indian, Chinese civilization and Bibles. Even after that it has barbarian rules because of which millions of people died.
Why we need a father
Lovely 👑
And about the prophet Mohammad, there is a contradiction between Sunnis and Shias. Amongst Muslims shias firmly believe that the prophet could write and read, whereas Sunnis believe the prophet couldn't read or write. ( I am a Shia)
Arey bhai science ko mante ho ki nahi phir scientist ka inkar kyu karte ho mujhe tumhara tark samjh nahi aaya....
Dedinition of God- He is one,he is not born nor gave birth to anyone,nobody is equal or similar to him,he dont die and he is eternal,he created time !!!!
But Allah has Emotion , just like we human have...😊😊😊
Can u reach out to onemessage foundation for a healthy debate. They might be able to answer ur questions as all of the muslims are not religious scholars
Because the Qur'an claimed that it was from god Allah that is why these verses explained that god exists and you also claimed that god can exist but we don't know who he is, you claimed that why a god will choose human beings but why will God leave his creation whom he created specially for the good of this world and after life... And Islamic god didn't come into being 1400 years ago he had guided human beings from the beginning of humanity...
Bro Please Debate with a Muslim Scholar Like Dr. Zakir Naik, Sheikh Uthman, Or Mufti Menk.
Atleast this guy is trying to talk in a civil manner.
Better than "Chapter 45 Verse 56, your opnion is invalid"
Man watch some ex muslim channel you gonna know how fake is the relegion
Zakir naik says you to have 10000 followers to debate with him.
Now tell me how this stupid man is?
Time travel is impossible sir 😅 i respect you please read Qur'an as an evidence there are prophecy jo Puri horahi hai
Read a Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking.
@@vimohstephen hawkings is not older then quran 😹
edit : spell mistake
@@AdnanAhmed091quran has very little to no scientific backing tho?
It only proves that some speculations made in Quran 1400 years back became true.
Thats it. How it proves the existence of God?
Man watch some ex Muslim channel you gonna know
People converting to other religions is not a proof of intelligence!!