That motto is how I ended up with a 13 year old desktop PC as my daily driver. In terms of efficiency (both power and my time) I should have upgraded years ago, I was just unaware that I should care about the price of used office PCs that are much faster. If your hardware is a decade old and you care more about it just working than being authentic, pick up a used Lenovo or Dell office PC. Then, once you have that running and are happy with it, you can cannibalize your previous build for video card and the like. At no point in this process are you left without a fully functional desktop PC. So sometimes it's a little bit broken but you don't even think to ask the question because nothing has changed. That 13 year old machine would still work fine if I felt like getting another case and CPU heatsink for it. There, now you can live by "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" by invoking "but would I know if it was broken? I have to clean and inspect, right?". 😈
@@rockpie.iso.tar.bz2 rock pie watches action retro? 🔥 but yeah part two to this is gonna be AWESOME, i hope he sees the comment with the color CRT idea as well
0:20 "And if you enjoy taking iconic but broken computers from years gone by and making them utterly unrecognizable..." Me: Hey! I've been watching you a long time, Sean. I totally recognize that monstrosity! 0:32 "So, long time viewers the channel will probably recognize this monstrosity..." Me: You know it, Sean. Stay awesome.
Well, I have long considered my builds incomplete without a blood sacrifice. That being said, I think that a flesh sacrifice would suffice. The retro gods will bless this build.
Honestly, even once you and Steve fix everything and get the Cursed Mac back together, I'd say it isn't quite "upgraded as much as possible" until you give it a full color CRT and, as TaijanDean suggested, internal stereo speakers inside the case. I only say this because you're able to get it to boot Mac OS 8.1 and use CDs, I think it needs to have the A/V fidelity to match that so you can play games like Myst, The Journeyman Project, and most importantly the wonderful MacPlay port of Wolfenstein 3D on it.
@@Andy-fd5fg I think a color touch screen, whether it be regular or light pen, defeats the spirit of that Mac. Granted, ethernet and Internet kinda defeat the spirit of it too but that's besides the point.
@@Andy-fd5fgi dont think they made touch screen crts that were small enough, though, perhaps the worst version of a touch screen could be used, using either infrared emitters or lasers and their respective collectors on the x and y axis to determine the position of the touch
@@ethandudeman8359 not sure if they did make them that small either. However if there is no CRT touchscreen that small then how about a flat panel touchscreen. That would leave much more room inside the case for other mods
I hope your fingers heal well! Even with the failure, it is fun to see this machine in a video again! I remember the first episode when it first came out, and you've come a long way with your knowledge and video style!
The Cursed Mac was the video that introduced me to this channel and its truly horrific shenanigans, so I immediately clicked this video the moment I saw that transparent thing of horrific beauty.
Glad to see you have found the joy of the Hakko Desoldering gun. I don't know how I replaced caps and sockets or anything else before I got one. I probably did it with lots of swearing, frustration, and probable board damage. I will never go back.
QUICK TIP Already not followed... I have touched my soldering iron before, the worst was when I was drinking, trying to fix my head phones, and I picked up the iron with my right dominate hand like I was going to pick up a pencil. Yeah I got crispy skin for that, and then it blistered. Edit: looking at my index finger I realise that a chunk of my fingerprint is just SMOOTH because I picked up a soldering iron by the hot part with my fingers like itwas a pencil... while drun.
I absolutely HATE soldering iron burns! What's worse is when you have nerve damage in a couple fingers and don't immediately realize that you're cooking your flesh.
I love all the modifications for these machines, I was going to build an SE/30 replacement board from Bolle because the old board died because of battery leak but I wasn't confident with desoldering the old board initially. You have given me a great idea to buy a desolder gun
In similar situations, I've found it useful to assemble the thing and then try to reflow everything. In other words, I'd put the CPU in the socket and then heat everything back up real good and maybe kinda push the CPU in and around a little bit. That way you get everything good and aligned while the solders hot and then the CPU itself keeps everything in place until it cools. On second thought tho, idk how hot you'd wanna get the CPU. I've done this mostly with cheaper components lol
Ooh-oh-oh-oh Come on Oh yeah Well, I tried to tell you so (Yes, I did) But I guess you didn't know As the saddest story goes Baby, now I got the flow 'Cause I knew it from the start Baby, when you broke my heart That I had to come again And show you that I'd win You lied to me All those times I said that I loved you You lied to me Yes, I tried, yes I tried You lied to me Even though you knew I'd die for you You lied to me Yes, I cried, yes I cried Return of the Mack (There it is) Return of the Mack (Come on) Return of the Mack (Oh my God) You know that I'll be back (Here I am) Return of the Mack (Once again) Return of the Mack (Top of the world) Return of the Mack (Watch my flow) You know that I'll be back (Here I go) So, I'm back up in the game (Hustling slow) Running things to keep my swing (All night long) Letting all the people know That I'm back to run the show 'Cause what you did you know was wrong And all the nasty things you've done (Oh, oh, oh) So baby listen carefully While I sing my comeback song You lied to me 'Cause she said she'd never turn on me You lied to me But you did, but you did You lied to me All this pain you said I'd never feel You lied to me But I do, but I do, do, do Return of the Mack (There it is) Return of the Mack (Hold on) Return of the Mack (Don't you know) You know that I'll be back (Here I go) Return of the Mack (Oh, little girl) Return of the Mack (Once my pearl) Return of the Mack (Up and down) You know that I'll be back (Round and round) Ahh, Mark, stop lying about your big break For God sake, I need a real man, uh (The return of the mack, aoww) stop letting me down Stop letting me down You lied to me Cause she said she'd never turn on me You lied to me But you did, but you did You lied to me All this pain you said I'd never feel You lied to me But I do, but I do, do, do Return of the Mack (It is) Return of the Mack (Come on) Return of the Mack (Oh, my God) You know that I'll be back (Here I am) Return of the Mack (Once again) Return of the Mack (Top of the world) Return of the Mack (Watch my flow) You know that I'll be back (Don't you know) Return of the Mack (Here it is) Return of the Mack (Hold on) Return of the Mack (Be strong) You know that I'll be back (Here I go) Return of the Mack (My little baby) Return of the Mack (Watch my flow) Return of the Mack (Up and down) You know that I'll be back (Round and round)
yea when that CPU popped out of the board I cringed a little, you may have connection from top of the socket to the bottom but it doesn't mean you have it from the top of the board to the bottom. If you lifted a pad and broke a trace on the top side, welp you have to remove it all and risk doing more damage to find it ... which happens to all of use from time to time, it sucks (I did it on my atari XE, the sockets were letting the memory upgrade disconnect, so I removed the socket and killed a trace on the top side)
i think that color screen would be a good upgrade to be honest. I know that for retro reasons grayscale is the best, but for me it looks odd with all the upgrades, crystal case, RGB and colorful PCBs
I'm looking forward to modifying my SE/30 once it arrives. Hopefully it has the socketed CPU. If it does I'll probably try the same processor upgrade. It'll be thrown into a blue MacEffects case (sadly they discontinued selling the clear case [madness I tell you, madness!]). It'll sit next to my accelerated SE and SE FDHD.
Those signals are starting to get to the point where characteristic impedance is important. It's entirely possible the 'only' thing wrong is an impedance discontinuity causing signal integrity issues. A proper socket should be designed with the proper impedances. (This is moreso an issue for 100MHz+, but even tens of MHz starts being an issue sometimes... Remember: a square wave in theory has high frequency components all the way up to infinity.)
🎶Guess who's back, back again? Cursed Mac's back, tell your friends!🎶 Kinda surprised he held back enough to say "What is it this time?" instead of "What did you do?"
Not sure if you always solder at 750, but that seems pretty high to me. I run my Hakko at 500 for the delicate things I solder (I make guitar pickups), and even used 500 when I was building an OpenTendo without issue. I also don't recommend using lead free solder if you are using it, that stuff sucks. Can't tell what you've got in the video.
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That Mac is better than the new Mac’s
and now i'm hungry for pork buns!
It would be cool if you put like a 2 inch speaker driver in there there and that would eliminate the need for externalspeaker speakers
@@greatquuxLet me get you some 😋🐖🥟
The Mac of Theseus
Fancy comment!
A more followable version of the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” advice you ignore is “if it ain’t broke, keep fixing it until it is”.
Mod it till it breaks
That's just 110% Action retro
Yeah, I did that with my wife's laptop.
In the words of Red Green: If it's not broke, you're not trying.
That motto is how I ended up with a 13 year old desktop PC as my daily driver. In terms of efficiency (both power and my time) I should have upgraded years ago, I was just unaware that I should care about the price of used office PCs that are much faster. If your hardware is a decade old and you care more about it just working than being authentic, pick up a used Lenovo or Dell office PC. Then, once you have that running and are happy with it, you can cannibalize your previous build for video card and the like. At no point in this process are you left without a fully functional desktop PC.
So sometimes it's a little bit broken but you don't even think to ask the question because nothing has changed. That 13 year old machine would still work fine if I felt like getting another case and CPU heatsink for it.
There, now you can live by "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" by invoking "but would I know if it was broken? I have to clean and inspect, right?". 😈
If you can smell bacon then you are soldering wrong.
But also doing something right
I don’t smell bacon but I do smell fumes that are slowly giving me brain damage
What I'm simultaneously cooking bacon?
A Dutch hackerspace has the motto "If it smells like chicken, you're holding it wrong!"
And if it tastes like chicken then, uh, stop eating your own fingers?
The upgrades will never end!!!
Also, I have a suggestion: a stereo modification allowing stereo speakers inside the case.
oh god he saw this
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but yeah part two to this is gonna be AWESOME, i hope he sees the comment with the color CRT idea as well
One note is that you can still buy in-production PGA sockets for the 030, for a slightly cleaner solution than pin headers. (Mouser carries them)
You know it's going to be good when the soldering burn bandages come out halfway through the video.
0:20 "And if you enjoy taking iconic but broken computers from years gone by and making them utterly unrecognizable..."
Me: Hey! I've been watching you a long time, Sean. I totally recognize that monstrosity!
0:32 "So, long time viewers the channel will probably recognize this monstrosity..."
Me: You know it, Sean. Stay awesome.
Way back when he was just Mr. Floating hands because his space wasn't big enough for him to get into frame.
I'm still waiting for him to say "torturing geriatric Macs". 🤣
Well, I have long considered my builds incomplete without a blood sacrifice. That being said, I think that a flesh sacrifice would suffice. The retro gods will bless this build.
Honestly, even once you and Steve fix everything and get the Cursed Mac back together, I'd say it isn't quite "upgraded as much as possible" until you give it a full color CRT and, as TaijanDean suggested, internal stereo speakers inside the case. I only say this because you're able to get it to boot Mac OS 8.1 and use CDs, I think it needs to have the A/V fidelity to match that so you can play games like Myst, The Journeyman Project, and most importantly the wonderful MacPlay port of Wolfenstein 3D on it.
don't forget to include a touch screen with that colour CRT.
@@Andy-fd5fg I think a color touch screen, whether it be regular or light pen, defeats the spirit of that Mac. Granted, ethernet and Internet kinda defeat the spirit of it too but that's besides the point.
Until it has a Liquid cooled Threadripper it’s not really that upgraded is it.
@@Andy-fd5fgi dont think they made touch screen crts that were small enough, though, perhaps the worst version of a touch screen could be used, using either infrared emitters or lasers and their respective collectors on the x and y axis to determine the position of the touch
@@ethandudeman8359 not sure if they did make them that small either.
However if there is no CRT touchscreen that small then how about a flat panel touchscreen.
That would leave much more room inside the case for other mods
Plot twist: He touched the soldering iron on purpose because that's part of the fun
How else do you know if its hot?
It isn't fun for the next week
I hope your fingers heal well! Even with the failure, it is fun to see this machine in a video again! I remember the first episode when it first came out, and you've come a long way with your knowledge and video style!
A wild Mac84 appears!
Have hammer, will travel!
Soldering iron falls from desk, catch it by reflex, been there done that, love this Mac.
"We're gonna build our own socket."
^.^
8:50 finally, a fart gun
Dr Nefario would approve.
Haha if you read the comment then hit the timestamp, that'll get a true lol
i said DART gun!!
The Cursed Mac was the video that introduced me to this channel and its truly horrific shenanigans, so I immediately clicked this video the moment I saw that transparent thing of horrific beauty.
Glad to see you have found the joy of the Hakko Desoldering gun. I don't know how I replaced caps and sockets or anything else before I got one. I probably did it with lots of swearing, frustration, and probable board damage. I will never go back.
QUICK TIP Already not followed... I have touched my soldering iron before, the worst was when I was drinking, trying to fix my head phones, and I picked up the iron with my right dominate hand like I was going to pick up a pencil.
Yeah I got crispy skin for that, and then it blistered.
Edit: looking at my index finger I realise that a chunk of my fingerprint is just SMOOTH because I picked up a soldering iron by the hot part with my fingers like itwas a pencil... while drun.
I did something similar late at night while tired. In my case I was checking to see if the iron was hot.
It was.
Very.
Don't drink and solder
You should make an playlist with all the videos of upgrades you made to this "cursed" mac I would binge watch all videos
I've actually come around to the clear case by this point! Used to be a big proponent of the black painted case staying
I absolutely HATE soldering iron burns! What's worse is when you have nerve damage in a couple fingers and don't immediately realize that you're cooking your flesh.
I love all the modifications for these machines, I was going to build an SE/30 replacement board from Bolle because the old board died because of battery leak but I wasn't confident with desoldering the old board initially. You have given me a great idea to buy a desolder gun
At least you're upfront with your discovered Shortcomings! 😉 Good luck! ☘
I REALLY want the cursed macintosh to be one of the first 68060 capable macs
I'm thinking that the CPU pins are too skinny for the "socket" and have bad contact.
This has quickly become one of my favourite YT channels, even your failures make great videos!
Keep up the great work!
Sean, your shenanigans are an important part of my complete breakfast.
it's macintosh gamer time
I have been waiting for this to come back, hopefully we get to see more of this machine more in the future!
I thought Mac86 Steve would have answered with "OK, what have you done now?"...
Yesss. I look forward to watching your videos every Saturday. I'll be looking forward to the fix video lol sorry that happened man.
I love your channel man, life is stressful but the common set of your videos always brings me to a place i like to be.
I knew the moment you pulled up the phone that you'd be calling Steve XD
In similar situations, I've found it useful to assemble the thing and then try to reflow everything. In other words, I'd put the CPU in the socket and then heat everything back up real good and maybe kinda push the CPU in and around a little bit. That way you get everything good and aligned while the solders hot and then the CPU itself keeps everything in place until it cools. On second thought tho, idk how hot you'd wanna get the CPU. I've done this mostly with cheaper components lol
Awesome. Now watercool it.
All sing together now.... "Return of the Mac..."
Ooh-oh-oh-oh
Come on
Oh yeah
Well, I tried to tell you so (Yes, I did)
But I guess you didn't know
As the saddest story goes
Baby, now I got the flow
'Cause I knew it from the start
Baby, when you broke my heart
That I had to come again
And show you that I'd win
You lied to me
All those times I said that I loved you
You lied to me
Yes, I tried, yes I tried
You lied to me
Even though you knew I'd die for you
You lied to me
Yes, I cried, yes I cried
Return of the Mack (There it is)
Return of the Mack (Come on)
Return of the Mack (Oh my God)
You know that I'll be back (Here I am)
Return of the Mack (Once again)
Return of the Mack (Top of the world)
Return of the Mack (Watch my flow)
You know that I'll be back (Here I go)
So, I'm back up in the game (Hustling slow)
Running things to keep my swing (All night long)
Letting all the people know
That I'm back to run the show
'Cause what you did you know was wrong
And all the nasty things you've done (Oh, oh, oh)
So baby listen carefully
While I sing my comeback song
You lied to me
'Cause she said she'd never turn on me
You lied to me
But you did, but you did
You lied to me
All this pain you said I'd never feel
You lied to me
But I do, but I do, do, do
Return of the Mack (There it is)
Return of the Mack (Hold on)
Return of the Mack (Don't you know)
You know that I'll be back (Here I go)
Return of the Mack (Oh, little girl)
Return of the Mack (Once my pearl)
Return of the Mack (Up and down)
You know that I'll be back (Round and round)
Ahh, Mark, stop lying about your big break
For God sake, I need a real man, uh
(The return of the mack, aoww) stop letting me down
Stop letting me down
You lied to me
Cause she said she'd never turn on me
You lied to me
But you did, but you did
You lied to me
All this pain you said I'd never feel
You lied to me
But I do, but I do, do, do
Return of the Mack (It is)
Return of the Mack (Come on)
Return of the Mack (Oh, my God)
You know that I'll be back (Here I am)
Return of the Mack (Once again)
Return of the Mack (Top of the world)
Return of the Mack (Watch my flow)
You know that I'll be back (Don't you know)
Return of the Mack (Here it is)
Return of the Mack (Hold on)
Return of the Mack (Be strong)
You know that I'll be back (Here I go)
Return of the Mack (My little baby)
Return of the Mack (Watch my flow)
Return of the Mack (Up and down)
You know that I'll be back (Round and round)
Return of the Snack 😋
rip to that pcb, seeing how dark it is, it got wayy to hot.
New definition of a "Hackingtosh". Or actually Breakingtosh as it turns out.
7:15 some other nearby part probably got desoldered cause of the lack of insolation /w kapton tape, that's my best guess
You are so underrated my friend!
If Steve jobs saw this he would buy it in an heart beat
Real life re-enactment of the soldering iron meme. Well done. (pun honestly not intended, but sooo fitting).
I fucking love this thing
I had to rewatch and make sure Clint wasn't using a dab tool when desoldering.
😂
Surely this looks awesome
yea when that CPU popped out of the board I cringed a little, you may have connection from top of the socket to the bottom but it doesn't mean you have it from the top of the board to the bottom. If you lifted a pad and broke a trace on the top side, welp you have to remove it all and risk doing more damage to find it ... which happens to all of use from time to time, it sucks (I did it on my atari XE, the sockets were letting the memory upgrade disconnect, so I removed the socket and killed a trace on the top side)
"Steve's not here right now! 🐔" 😂
I totally remember this!! I was there when you were still trying to break the curses :D
A good practical sponsor segment.
This “farting” tool let me laugh out very loud 😂
It's back and better than ever!
I feel you pain Sean I have major issues with my SE30 As well
I glad to see I am not the only one who lost raw videos 😊
oh come on don't get the beautiful Macintosh cursed ever again
Man! That thing was built when your hair was still a uniform color!
This is the only classic Mac I have ever been interested in!
Those trackballs are great hand cleaners. Just pop out the ball after about a week of use and take a look at all the grunge hiding underneath.
Great to see the cursed mac again! So sad it died though :(
if i ever find an se/30 for cheap i'm gonna do this but the broke way... i can already imagine it's gonna be even more cursed
It's about time!
I've been modding my SE/40 (yes) after seeing your videos
"Oh, no... no no no NOOOOO! Here we go again..." - Mr. Macintosh.
It's always been with us in spirit
5:47 as is tradition, I have a tin of random screws as well
Oh, yeah... expect big gross blisters shooting fluid across the room
Cool power supply setup
The biggest crazy upgrade would be putting a color CRT in there if they made a video card for it!
THE CURSED MAC!!!! I LOVE that computer!!!!
I thought the end was going to be you putting the motherboard in the mail to Amiga of Rochester with a wad of cash and a note reading "plz halp"
That is the funkiest amalgamation of random hardware I've ever seen
“Pllleaseee! Kiiilllll mmeeeee!”
-Cursed Mac
that call at the end, many of my friends have said the same thing to me lol
Apple pro speakers fit so much
*thonk* at 0:26. Little onomatopoetic words that flash at subliminal speeds on the screen make me happy.
Since the device looks nice, there's a clear Windoelws 11 badge to remember that this is a cursed device.
It's the return of Magic Hands! Now with more solder burns!
YES! The Mac that *made* your channel, Sean!!!
That Mac is denser than George Costanza's wallet.
you should install one of these color mods for the crt display of the neck board
Cursed is a bit of a statement. I'd say, spiced.
Yay, cursed Mac! 😍
i think that color screen would be a good upgrade to be honest. I know that for retro reasons grayscale is the best, but for me it looks odd with all the upgrades, crystal case, RGB and colorful PCBs
i like this level of madness
I'm looking forward to modifying my SE/30 once it arrives. Hopefully it has the socketed CPU. If it does I'll probably try the same processor upgrade.
It'll be thrown into a blue MacEffects case (sadly they discontinued selling the clear case [madness I tell you, madness!]). It'll sit next to my accelerated SE and SE FDHD.
It's a Frankenmac! So cool.
Those signals are starting to get to the point where characteristic impedance is important. It's entirely possible the 'only' thing wrong is an impedance discontinuity causing signal integrity issues.
A proper socket should be designed with the proper impedances.
(This is moreso an issue for 100MHz+, but even tens of MHz starts being an issue sometimes... Remember: a square wave in theory has high frequency components all the way up to infinity.)
CURSED MAC TODAY!!!!!!!
🎶Guess who's back, back again?
Cursed Mac's back, tell your friends!🎶
Kinda surprised he held back enough to say "What is it this time?" instead of "What did you do?"
Guess who's back
Back again
Cursed Mac
Standing there
I'm curious if it can run a 68060, but according to a quick search it wont without an edit to the actual rom due to missing instructions. Bummer.
I hope we get to meet the original owner on a video call/pod cast some day😁
2:53 i got them same creative speakers, for how cheap they are they sound great
Not sure if you always solder at 750, but that seems pretty high to me. I run my Hakko at 500 for the delicate things I solder (I make guitar pickups), and even used 500 when I was building an OpenTendo without issue.
I also don't recommend using lead free solder if you are using it, that stuff sucks. Can't tell what you've got in the video.
Oh that gavee a panic. I solder at 340. But you mean Fahrenheit, while I'm working in Celsius 🤣
@@bikeforever2016 yeah, speaking 'Murican here 🤣
This thing is going to run 10.4 Tiger by the end of 2026.
It's... it's been 4 years already? Holy....
Don't 4 of the corner pins on those black, soldered-down 030's have little standoffs that could prevent them from seating completely in a socket?
Never ever do rework without a real desoldering vacuum.
it''s back! In cursed form...
If it's not cursed, make it cursed. If it is already cursed, make it cursed twice. If it' cursed twice...
Unless I missed something, I think it needs a *nix OS, either Unix, Linux or a BSD.
Nah, not cursed enough. It needs A/UX!
@@BenInSeattle I said Unix, although I do question how compatible A/UX will be with aftermarket CPUs.
Hmm, wonder if 040 card will work in MacIISI. (SI and SE30 processor slots seem similar, sometimes.)