Haiku Beta 5 is OUT!
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#Haiku #BeOS #OperatingSystem - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Whispers of the code,
Silent OS in the breeze,
Dreams in open skies.
Great! a haiku about Haiku. Well done
;)
lol I see what you did there...nice one pimp!
every goodwill around me takes anything slightly more technical than a lamp and tries to sell it for 100 bucks on their awful auction site or ebay
Yours to???
I thought ours was the only one with outrageous prices.
Glad to see it's not just me... Or, well, not glad, but you get it.
I wonder how much of this pricing is just because of a lack of understanding, or because market demand allows it?
@@xxHANNONxx There's no demand for a lot of the trash, it's the third option, greed. Most of the auctions don't actually sell, they just get relisted or tossed. You also see the same overpriced garbage in the cases/on the shelves for months or however long their cycle is before they rotate the goods between stores.
Ah, Connecticut... The most mediocre Goodwills around.
Haiku is one of the few operating systems I actually have fun using. Just brings back so much joy to me. I find Haiku really well designed and nice to work with. Other operating systems are just a mess. Riddled with annoying bugs and inconsistencies etc. Haiku isn't perfect, but I feel like this is what a normal, general purpose OS should be like.
I really like that there is still progressive development going on with Haiku. This is one of those passion projects that deserve a little love
BeOS was my main driver in the early 00s. Haiku is an exciting project.
Also, take a look at the release notes. A lot of work went in in the last year and a half.
I imagine channels like this also really help to give some exposure.
Donating to the project means some development can get paid for, which is part of where a lot of the progress came from for this release.
Also, LOTS of apps from Qt5 and Qt6 and KDE land have been ported... Another amazing project.
I still have the install CD (dvd?) for BeOS 5 somewhere in my basement.
As someone who actually purchased BeOS back in the 90's, I've been very excited about Haiku for a long time.
Me too, it paid +CHF 50 (?) I also have the BeOS book. Still a great read ;)
I got very excited for a short while after Commodore went bankrupt (being an Amiga fan) and ran some version of BeOS on my first PC (an overclocked Celeron 300A). It ran like butter when Windows 95 did not on the same machine, but at that time the dream of BeOS as an alternative to anything Microsoft was short lived. I bought the BeOS bible though. And I still have it somewhere...
I loved Beos. It just worked and was pleasant to use. This is cool to see, I wonder how it works with blender...
New Haiku beta? I know what I'm doing tonight.
Crying, alone, in your basement, with alcohol?
Can u run a invida graphics card
goodbye sleep!
@@weelebaseknowles4410 никак. Только VESA.
@@exturkconnerLove it!
Would it not be hilarious if after years of fractured Linux Desktop distros, Haiku rose from the ashes and became the go to operating system for people fed up with boated windows garbage?
It would be nice. I've tried Linux (in a VM and, while I like most of how Mint in particular works, my issue is that when it comes to audio drivers and software, it's truly just miserable. I'm sure I could just use WINE or Proton, but even still, it just feels like audio is one of the weakest areas for musicians
Granted, I doubt Haiku would be better on that front for a while, but still
The main issue is a lack of compatibility with modern applications and games. Haiku or a newer OS based on it would have to prioritize optimization with modern apps and games. Which would require a ton of money and technical know how. Which would require a fairly large company to do I feel or a very large grass roots movement. Either of which is unlikely.
Only way this could happen is a complete overhaul of the GUI, plus it literally has the worst compatibility and support of any real modern operating system. We’d sooner see a world full of people using FreeBSD than Haiku. I love Haiku, I think its really cool! But even the Haiku team arn’t interested in the idea of replacing Windows.
The only OS that could replace Windows realistically is Ubuntu, ChromeOS and MacOS. The last is extremely unlikely unless Apple starts selling cheap, smaller MacBooks again. ChromeOS is so limited the only way it’d happen is if they allow you to install Linux applications natively. Ubuntu is probably the most likely, as they have plenty of money behind them. This would also make Linux way more viable as a whole though.
I know Linux for about 30 years right now. And it is now awfully bloated and slow - and buggy. I do not like it much anymore - after being obsessed with Linux for quite a long time. I remember BeOS 5 quite well - I liked it a lot. BUT I also know that there are almost no useful apps for it out there.
Watching this on an old 4:3 Elo touch screen that came out of a Dentist's Office (mounted to the wall in my kitchen).... totally normal computing!
I know the Elo brand as POS gear mainly. Yeah, really cursed then.
So awesome that someone is shining a light on Haiku, especially now that it's finally approaching usability as a daily driver.
Thank you.
Came for the eWaste, stayed for the POSIX shell...
-Dx
While I don't care specifically for how that HP laptop looks, I do kinda miss when stuff tried to impress with some kind of visual flair/style, even if it made it look even cheaper. Also useful thickness for having extra ports, expandability, thermals, serivceability, etc.
Agree. I don't really need a super thin lightweight laptop. I have a smartphone for that. I still have my old Toshiba Satellite 2545XCDT from 1999. Granted, its K62 333 can't really do much of anything about modern software but it's form factor is pretty great. Also, it's 25 years old and the !(*#^$ hinges aren't broken.
I have the Compaq version of that laptop and I find that it looks much nicer even if it uses a more conventional design
Oh man! I have been looking forward to your thoughts on Beta 5!
thanks for being one of the few places where I know someone will talk about this fun little OS.
I enjoy bringing ewaste back to life too, currently have a 2012 OptiPlex running Linux Mint. Maybe I'll give Haiku a try.
If Haiku runs that fast on old, outdated hardware, I can only imagine how fast it screams on modern iron. Great video, Sean!
Sadly not really that fast, as it doesn't have all that great support for bleeding edge hardware (specially with video acceleration)
Yet, the OS is so darn small on resources that not having the proper hardware/video acceleration barely holds the thing back
well it runs about the same. things that would do computing would finish faster of course.
it's generally better at not blocking the ui updating when things are being done though, so appearance might be smoother than windows 11 under a bunch of activities.
I’m surprised there is no arm version.
It would be great on a raspberry pi.
@@Tailslol I heard some people were trying to port it to RISC-V, but dont know what came out of that
@@akatsukilevi probably nothing, just like the risc-V architecture…
They fixed all my complaints about the USB Audio device for my Headset!
Don't use this thing as a sad tower, use it as monitor stand, I like pizza box cases
Definitely a loss of modern cases.
@@marenjones6665 I could buy and old HTPC, modern ones are pretty expensive
@@marenjones6665 HTPC cases could be an (expensive) option
I remember installing Haiku for the first time and was weary about how fast it was until it booted without problems.
Seriously I was just getting back into tech and didn't think it could be that optimized. Yeah it's fast fast.
7:54 oh I love that era of HP/Compaq aesthetics (my first desktop PC was one of them)
$16 at a Goodwill? That's surprising when it comes to tech.
Good to see Haiku is still continuing to update and improve. And that somebody is letting people know about Haiku!
7:58 Instructions unclear; my local Circuit City became a Micro Center! 😂
Seriously, that former Circuit City location was spared from closing and became the first Micro Center location really close to New York City outside of Long Island!
Hey there! I've been following your channel for a while now and I've really enjoyed your videos on different operating systems. I have a suggestion for a challenge that I think would be really interesting for you and your viewers. I know you already did Haiku OS for a week as your daily driver, I challenge you to daily drive Haiku OS for a month? I think it would be really cool to see your thoughts on the user experience, the performance, and how it compares to your weeklong challenge. This Haiku OS is pretty cool, so I believe it would make for some very insightful content. I am also hoping to put Haiku OS on my Lenovo Yoga, Plus, it would be a great opportunity to encourage your viewers to use an OS that gives out BeOS Vibes. I hope you consider this challenge - I think it would be a fantastic addition to your channel. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this. I really wanted a BeBox back in 1995, and was saving up for one -- but bought a car instead. I've run earlier Haiku iterations some years ago on a P3 laptop -- glass smooth. Your looks at the Haiku scene are what keep me up to date on all of this. Many thanks to you.
home slice, you got this running on my favorite laptop, I 100% approve.
i have one of those too
@Mari2 Me too, How does everyone have one of those? I got mine from a box of old laptops I was given for free. Its got an athlon xp and some nvidia thing.
@@Compact-Disc_700mb Used to could get pallets of "e-waste" for less than fifty bucks, then influencers made retro rad, and now you can't touch them for less than a thousand.
@@Compact-Disc_700mb Wow a real GPU? Mr. fancy pants over here...
@@delphicdescant It might be integrated GPU, Nvidia chipsets sometimes had iGPUs but it has been a while since I used it so I don't remember. It might have one so it may be fancy, Hehe.
BeOS was what we all needed. Great to see it live on in Haiku.
That's actually quite exciting news. Thanks for the heads up.
I used to love BeOS around the 2000s. It radiates quality engineering. You've inspired me to install Haiku on some of the old hardware lying around that takes ages to load win10 or even linux.
I tried it, it is really barebone and there is no support for wine or steam.
@@ibobeko4309 yeah, it's not a linux, there won't be wine and games
I love that this project is still going more than 20 years later. I will always be a fan of this project. I am hoping that it will make its way to arm64 in the future.
I have a Gateway of similar vintage that I was 'gifted' as e-waste - Haiku was my OS of choice for the thing and thank you for letting me know beta5 is released. 😀
I'd really like for BeOS/Haiku's UI to be put into a window manager or Wayland compositor. Too bad I know nothing about how to make one...
BeOs themes already exist. I used to use one on KDE years ago, after moving from BeOs to Linux. They should still work under Trinity.
@@samshort365Really!? That's cool. Though I meant more than just a theme; something a bit more modern ported over to Linux. Maybe there's a way to do so in modern KDE Plasma?
@@cameronbosch1213 If youre looking for some hardcore coding, everything is possible with the right motivation. In the meantime, I found an article on The Luke Journal of Technology entitled: "Make Linux Look like BeOS" (do a search, I wont link because YT blocks posts) that transforms XFCE into a near 100% BeOS clone, including the theme, deskbar, icons and cursors.
You can almost get there with themes.
You used to be able to get prettu close in windows 20 years ago(with litestep etc) but no more
You convinced me to give Haiku a go (running on KVM). I've been trying to use it as a "main driver" for the past couple of months and I must say I'm quite impressed with it. I've had some great success in getting what I would call my "key" applications to compile and run.
I got a copy of BeOS with my PowerComputing Mac clone. You were able to boot into BeOS in a matter of seconds from within MacOS. Not sure how they did that!
There wasn’t much software for it, but it was fun.
I’ve been running Haiku in VMWare Fusion since its first release. It seems very usable now.
Similar to how they booted anything on UFS, like Rhapsody/Mac OS X v1 or A/UX. Apple's Open Firmware could only boot HFS(+) volumes so you needed a minimal HFS+ boot volume, which contained the BeOS BFS driver and bootloader.
Fresh sub and just found out there's a new video, my binge watching is peaking.
Loved Haiku back in the day and I've popped in to check on this from time to time. Definitely making a new VM at the very least today.
100% no surprise on the topic of this video 😄
Simply the most beautiful modern operating system!
I'm also a fan of Haiku OS! Please more videos about it, on different hardware! I used the original BeOS, it was wonderful.
Awesome shirt. Nice meeting you there.
It's good to know that Haiku is progressing in development, unlike some reverse engineered open source recreation out there! Yeah I'm talking about React OS their still in Alpha and haven't move to a beta phase yet, won't be surprised that Haiku would have a RC that's ready to be a stable release after this!
The browser updates are great! I have an older ultrabook (Pentium M ULV) running Haiku and it only needs to display simple things, the browsers in R4 just had too many rendering problems even for that. That little refresh solves this perfectly.
It just needs to display monitoring info and ssh terminals and - if that works some day - RDP sessions. It's just an awesome thin client.
I love Haiku, been Beos fan since the 90s. I love what they've done with RC5 ... It installs faster than some windows machines I've had *BOOT*.
11:50 The moiré pattern is allowing me to see the subpixel layout, that's crazy and I love it.
OF COURSE I had to rewind and put on slow mo for the High Velocity SSD Install. I’m not new here and I’m all for The Shenanigans. Imagine going thrifting with LGR and Action Retro:
***The HORROR***
Haiku works perfectly on my IBM Thinkpad T41, gonna try the new beta soon
Excellent. I am surprised the audio did not work.
The tabbed groups for windows is a great feature and one that should have caught on with other operating systems for sure. It's one of Haiku's interface's strongest points
I'm conflicted, because I actually do enjoy tiling window managers, so tabs on floating windows feels like a step backwards for me. But it is a neat concept.
The fluxbox window manager for linux or bsd systems has this since years
this is probably gonna be good for my netbook. im going to try it
Wow, I should really put this new beta on some of my old machines. This looks light and actually usable on the internet. What a neat thing that it's so functional and lightweight!
I used to show off BeOS back in the day by dropping a video (The Phantom Menace trailer was the highest res file I had at the time, late 90s) and drop it onto the spinning cube. then drop it onto a different face of the cube, as well as opening multiple copies of the same video. This was on a PC that dual booted windows 98, the win side would have crashed with 3 vids, the BeOS partition played them all with overlapping audio, it was wild. No frame drops that I could see. IIRC you might be able to drop video onto the teapot also. That machine had about 200M ram, single core. Showed to a friend who was a professional programmer for Disney Mobile, he laughed and said "OK, point made!"
I had a PIII 1000mhz, 512mb, Terratec EWS64XXL and Matrox G450, it played two dvd's on two monitors at the same time without issues in Win98.
I love this OS. Always fascinating to see it
Man, I remember being a 12 year old linux geek in the 1990s and seeing the BeOS box for sale in a CompUSA.. I begged my dad to buy it for me. I Loved it. It was quick. I remember drinking Dr Pepper and creating IRC client themes for BeOS at 2am.
1:27 Unfortunately, my town doesn't allow people to take out e-waste from the recycling area, unless you contract with the town or something like that...
Thanx for that. Certainly is different (challenging) when installing it on a VM. Yes I can see it's BOS parentage.
Omg that HP laptop was my very first laptop. It was a CHUNKER.
I used ibm
I tried BeOS on a secondary PC in 1998, and I thought it was a really good and cool OS.
I thought for sure we'd see the Firefox alpha/beta release!
Man oh man that HP Pavilion brings me back. I had a VERY similar one back in the day and it was one of the first PCs I really played a lot of games on. Mine was a Pentium 4 though.
Windows XP with an 80GB hard drive, still sitting in my basement.
The display broke at some point and for most of its life it was hooked up to an old CRT via VGA because it was literally all I had.
Random WinXP themes off of DeviantArt...
Sticking the P4 laptop on top of a cooling pad and hanging the fans off the edge of the desk so it didn't overheat...
Metal speaker grille totally rusted from sweat (?)
Yeah those were the days...
Great video on the Haiku OS, now I am going to up, and head over to the Mac Pro and download the Haiku OS. Hope that I can install in on my 5th drive, which is SSD.
"I burned a DVD"...somewhere...a Bringus just screamed.
I really feel like the UI for Haiku is highly underrated. Heck, the whole tabbed window feature is something System76 tried to copy a bit of with their Cosmic Shell extension for Gnome.
Hey, don't diss the Veriton. I have one of these as my desktop. It's on its second motherboard (replaced under warranty years ago), the power supply blew up and needed to be changed, the original graphics card doesn't have hdmi so I installed another hated piece of hw: the Geforce 210! (or is it 120? Can't remember). It has an aftermarket fan recovered from an even older machine and adapted in a 'freestyle' way, the front LED flashes red and the USB WiFi requires specific drivers from 2012 or something otherwise it won't work, but the machine is perfectly operational! I have a lot of fun with it, it's even still got a real serial port and some industrial PLCs don't work with USB ones. Long live the Veriton!
you know, it's nice to see BeOS being used as a basis for a modern os like Haiku, rather than your typical linux or free BSD or unix based distro's, it really has been a seriously underrated system, and as someone who missed out when BeOS was still in development, I might some time give this OS a genuine try, as this does seem like a good lightweight os.
I have not tried Haiku yet...but as a former BeOS user, I have been following it closely.
-Action retro: Haiku is the fastest os in the world
-Void linux: hold my beer
“There’s always ClassicCube, which runs great on just about anything! …well it’s still a little choppy on here” LMAO
That is likely not a quad core i3 but a 2 Core 2 Thread CPU the the operating system just reads the threads as cores
Maybe its a 2 core 4 thread cpu
What do you say when you, see you friend Ku? HI-ku😊
I walked up to the cockpit to say hello to my pilot friend Jack once before takeoff and of course as soon as I seen him I yelled "Hi Jack!" and a flight marshal tackled and handcuffed me in no seconds flat!
Yep, I know that is a very lame joke. 🤪
I've finally gotten Haiku fully up and running and I must say at least that ancient laptop's trackpad works. My Lenovo Ideapad 3 which while being my beater machine likely blows the featured netbook out of the water refuses to trackpad. Good thing USB mice exist.
After Amiga died BEOS was the only OS that gave me hope through the medieval ages of windows 3.11, 95, 98. But then BeOs just ended :-( Despite using linux since 95 and even tried OS/2 (technical good) and QNX (responsive). The onlw windows I really loved was Windows 7 but then MS gone wrong. I've been following BEOS and are great news.
there is AROS too
Why dont you install it on your BeBox Haiku Clone you built?
Oh man, I had THAT laptop as a young teen, with the Athlon 64 and some type of mobile ATi card - it’s what also introduced me to counter strike. It was truly a gigantic laptop and a battery hog.
Very cool! New Haiku is always interesting. Wonder what I have laying around I can stick it on. 🤔
I love that Haiku runs amazing on old hardware.
I think something went wrong with the web about 10 years ago. Webpages really shouldn’t need 100% CPU to load some text and thumbnails. That’s all the end user wants to see. All that other JS and junk being loaded wasting bandwidth and electricity.
Can't wait to see these Goodwill machines become the benchmark for all future Haiku releases.
BeOS was my daily driver both at home and at work from '98 to '02'. It's a shame that Be went under due to the Microsoft monopoly, as it was (and still is, in many ways) the most advanced desktop OS in existence. If Haiku ever ends up with better hardware support, I'd seriously consider using it.
Same, i was watching this thinking, if I could get GSender to compile for it I would make it my CNC controller OS. So many fond memories of BeOS.
This has been in Beta for 22 years! Any idea when it will finally see a version 1.0 stable finished-final release?
Haiku is looking great. Brings back the fun.
Nice, that really worked much better than I expected on that old laptop.
I'm trying Haiku out for sure
i had one of those HP Laptops, and it had the best speakers I have heard in any laptop ever, altho my one had a Harmon/Cardon sticker on the front too
Nice...Iam looking forward on Haiku..
i wish it would get more attention and developers. to add support for modern hardware and features.
I really liked the default theme of Haiku already a lot but that dark mode with all the glorious late 90's gradients is just something else.
BeOS was my daily driver for about 4 years. "an elegant OS for a more civilized time"
IDE SSD is like finding FSD on a Model T i love it
Nice way to breath some extra life into old hardware. Might be nice to take it for a spin in a virtual box, too, for that simple life dream.
Sean:"If you enjoy reviving E-waste..."
Me: looks around room.with at least a dozen mid 2000s machines in various stages of semi dereliction...
Sean:"With strange and exotic operation systems...."
Me: looks in Download folder at a list of downloaded iso files as long as my arm....
The single core laptop install feels a bit ironic, given that Be was originally about multi-processor computers (BeBoxes), before they became common with multicore CPUs. I remember attending an ACM presentation about Be in the early 90s, and seeing those computers was really amazing and impressive. I was really sad when they decided to stop making hardware, and since the company later failed I'm glad to see that Haiku has continued to work on their ideas for an OS.
Thanks for the shoutout!
Loaded Win11 on a 2005 Acer T180 with 4GB RAM, noticeably slow, but works ok, and a separate Batocera drive plays up PS1 games. Thinking Haiku might be the way to go to extend its life.
ZorinOS seems fast to install. Great video and keep it up
I've been lurking towards Haiku for years, but once everything's done, I might go full "alien" and daily drive haiku on Framework RISC-V
Seriously looks usable now.
I made live usb stick and tried it, it is very fast but it has literally no support for anything, that OS is just good for older hardware to check emails and youtube, thats it.
@@ibobeko4309 no, that is what it is good for you for.
BeOS was awesome. Pity Apple decided to go with NextStep.
Haiku is honestly pretty cool
I really used to like BeOS. When they started throwing PC's off the roof, it really did signify the end of that OS.... or so many people thought. And then Haiku happened! Give it a try, folks. Especially on a more modern CPU than an Athlon.
Been YEARS since any local thrift stores have carried any PCs.
Interesting!!!
Keep on doing "Haiku"!