man your videos are really something, in a positive way i mean. i like how not only your videos are really entertaining but also great if you just want to listen something in the background.
Both complete creative freedom but also just higher standards too. I mean don’t get me wrong it’s not like they can’t make good movies but the last real hitter I remember from them is Coco. Almost everything since the 2010s has been forgettable or worse with a few small bright spots.
@@el_mr6439 True, Disney and Pixar kind of blend together lately because of the ownership and frankly, their styles have kind of meshed together but the point stands. I guess you can replace Wreck it Ralph with Coco then but either way, they simultaneously need more freedom but also more quality control.
It's weird because DreamWorks last year created two films: The Bad Guys and Puss in Boots The Last Wish that destroyed both Disney and Pixar, I swear it's like the 2000s again
@@onepresence9460 but here's the thing they're focusing way too much on existing properties like how to train your dragon the franchise already got lots of TV series especially one that takes place after the last movie now they're making a live-action version of how to train your dragon
In the 2000s, Pixar were at their best, while DreamWorks also had some great movies of their own, albeit a bit hit and miss. Now I believe DreamWorks has the capacity to do better in recent memory.
I feel like this can all apply to Disney’s animated movies as well. Hell everything at this point. They’ve been playing it extremely safe and doing the bare minimum. Making products that are easy money rather than innovate
The main issue I've been having with Pixar (and Disney tbh) lately is that the plots are messy. Like really messy. Pixar used to be known for having the best scripts, tightest pacing, a perfect balance of humor & sincere moments of honest reflection from their characters. Now it feels like they are struggling to nail down the exact story they want to tell. The finess is gone.
In terms of the sequels or the original films? Honestly, for the most part, I still think they’ve been delivering on the latter. The sequels are where they tend to be hit-or-miss.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 i mean, for me even their original films doesn't compare to the ones that they put out from before. It's like there's something in their stories that are missing some times and I can't seem to put my finger in it.
@@JohnDoe-gt3jr I really don’t see how they should. They’re still just as memorable and emotionally engaging as the ones that came before. Maybe it’s just fatigue?
To be fair to Monsters University, while I'm not a fan I do think it has a great message and something new to say, namely 'sometimes you can't achieve your dreams, but that's ok' and to a lesser extent 'University / college isn't necessary to do well in life'. Both messages are rare to see in family films.
Monster University’s theme rivals movies like Ratatouille and Inside Out. I’ll even throw a bone and say Cars 3 isn’t too far behind. The issue comes from most of Monster University isn’t about the theme, and Cars 3 treats their theme like a running gag half the time.
I love the film for its message. As a teacher, I know most students will never achieve their dreams just because life is hard, and that's ok. We see so many movies in which the blind triple-amputee twelve year old manages to hit the game winning home run. That's no real. It feels good, but it tends to be a lie. The idea that you can still find alternative paths to happiness is an important message.
It's ironic how Dreamworks, a company created because its creator hated Disney, has been pumping out films that rival Disney and Pixar. Nowadays when I see a Pixar movie I just marvel at the settings and the details than the actual movie. Encanto is the only movie in recent memory from the company where I enjoyed it.
the creator at DreamWorks saw the writing on the wall decades ago. pixar's creativity has been strangled out of them by the house of mouse and it shows, very paint by numbers movies and visuals with scripts that are very basic and boring.
I feel annoyed that they keep making it seem like each "Toy Story" film is the grande finale of the franchise and then the next one is announced. It almost feels manipulative. Toy Story 3: "Yes, here's the ending shot of a sky that looks like Andy's cloud wallpaper, symbolizing the end of the toys' last chapter with Andy." *9 years later* Toy Story 4: "Buzz and Woody say good bye to each other thus ending the chapter of their story." *4 years later* Pixar: "We promise Toy Story 5 is worthy of its existence!" WHEN'S IT GONNA END?!
Toy Story 3 was supposed to be the end of things. The final part of a toy's journey is getting thrown out and ending up in a junkyard or landfill. The junkyard was deliberately put into Toy Story 3 for that very reason. It was supposed to have a sense of finality, and it was a grand spectacle. It was outright stated in the director's commentary. Then Toy Story 4 crops up almost a decade later and wrecks shop. The film is a complete and utter mess, and the director's commentary confirms this.
IMO the biggest sin toy story 4 committed was selling a toy of “Forky” because it’s supposed to be a toy a kid made themselves out of a fork (who woulda guessed) in arts and craft time in school. That kind of defeats the whole purpose selling it pre made XD
I don't agree with that. That film was more about Andy's toys coming to terms with their fate and Woody being kind enough to give them a second life, Toy Story 4 was Buzz giving another one back to Woody as a thank you, by encouraging him to do the deed with Bo Peep and her friends.
Because that is how it should have been? TS4 felt unnecessary but you can maybe argue it was a epilogue, but I have no hopes for TS5 after the mid TS4 and the disappointing Lightyear
I believe Pixar and Disney can pull off what Spiderverse did but are creatively stifled due to the corporate part of Disney. At times it feels like Pixar has grown fearful of the company and tries to keep em in their good graces
Yeah! I have that same gut feeling too when ever I watch their modern movies. Like something tells me their movies could be spectacular, but something is limiting them. It’s kind of like the current MCU movies right now.
Disney is getting too involved into products and marketing that it has spilled into the creative process of the movies "This won't be marketable!" "The market tends to not like these ideas" "green is not a creative colour" they are not a big studio anymore, for 3 decades now they are a multibillion COMPANY, and they are a company at first, a brand at second, a theme park at third, and a studio at fourth.
Pixar used to discard any ideas that weren't creative enough. If a project had a creative idea but wasn't interesting enough, then Pixar would bring in a veteran to take over and whip things into shape. They weren't afraid to overhaul or scrap projects entirely if things weren't coming together. Pixar might actually be a case where more creative control is a bad thing.
Yknow I really like spider verse style but I don’t want every studio to suddenly animate only in that style, because then we would have a problem again: everything would look the same
I liked the movie, but I could barely even tell it had a message other than “Be Yourself.” Which is the most stereotypical message, which can probably be incorporated into any piece of media.
@@TJ-hg6op I don’t like getting over analytical and explaining myself with a 500 word essay, but this is essentially growing up like becoming independent and maturing. He goes from following his mother’s orders and doing what she says to making mistakes, suffering their consequences, and repairing relationships. He chases after a thrill without considering consequences, and pays the price later, then instead of taking the easy path and crawling back to his mother hoping she would take him back, he owns up to his actions and sacrifices his own needs for the sake of his friends. Like in practice the act of going to school is a good thing, but it’s more about how he did it, again by betraying trusts in a pursuit of the adventure, but by acting selflessly and making sacrifices he earns it. But at the end of the day who cares, it was a good movie.
3:29 Also, Ratatouille has the rather deceptive "Everyone can cook" message as well. Deceptive because it can be easily misinterpreted as "anyone can do anything" (the "if you can dream it you can do it" message that plagues the morale of many stories) but as Hugo explained in the end, it actually means "Not everyone is capable of everything, but for something that requires talent, you can never know where this talent comes from; so you need to get rid of preconceptions and be open-minded"
To me, this is also further illustrated with the fact that Gasteau’s book isn’t called “Everyone Can Cook”, but rather “Anyone Can Cook”. I interpret this as him saying that any person has the capacity to learn and do more professional things. It may or may not be you, it may or may not be someone else, but talent exists and anyone is capable of possessing it.
It wasn’t until 2019 (m.th-cam.com/video/d5ngi3Qc-GY/w-d-xo.html, m.th-cam.com/video/U__oaZ9FiXM/w-d-xo.html, m.th-cam.com/video/rlKvQxtlrQ8/w-d-xo.html) when what used to be one of Pixar’s best franchises alongside Finding Nemo (which it still is because for 7 years so far, the last thing they made in the FN franchise was Finding Dory) and Cars (but then came the weakest instalment of a formerly good series since Cars 2. m.th-cam.com/video/I2uykmqKBhw/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/brnIypkBnCw/w-d-xo.html) was given the shaft by Josh Crueley, Dingus McLane, Brian “Fee” Lasseter (and to think he was the same guy that gave us Cars 3) and Steve Purhell (yeah, I got their names mixed up for the LULZ, but at the same time, it’s because of people like these that make Pixar a shell of its former self (although even to this day, there are also times when they can make more masterpieces like in the 2000s, from Onward to Soul to Luca to Turning Red in the very early 2020s)! m.th-cam.com/video/wd52YC3AV_M/w-d-xo.html I loved that mention of if Toy Story 5 turned Woody into a serial killer!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 (although in all seriousness, I don’t think even Pixar would come to that. Nickelodeon? Maybe. Disney in general? Again, maybe. But Pixar? For all its misses (and hits)? Unlikely.)
You’re literally talking about the studio that released Shrek the Third, Boss Baby 2, and Trolls 2. All of which range from bad to mediocre. Dreamworks pumps out plenty of bad sequel films to turn a profit just like literally every other major 3D animation studio. I’ll agree that Dreamworks is generally better at handling sequels than Disney/Pixar (HTTYD 2&3, Kung Fu Panda 2&3, Shrek 2, and Puss in Boots: The Last Wish) but they still have their fair share of cash cow sequels.
@@waffleconehat Dreamworks has put out more good sequels bad because their stories can be continued. The movie feels complete, but you still wish to see more adventures. Modern Disney's stories rarely warrant sequels, that's why they are bad. You don't really know where else these characters could be taken. In films that had potential for sequels, Incredibles, Frozen, Wreck it Ralph, but they fall victim to self-awareness humor, faux-progressivism, and repeating beats from the original films to recapture what made them work.
The problem with recent Pixar/Disney movies(at least for me) is that they are so focused on the message itself, rather than telling a fun, interesting, heartwarming story. It feels like they are preaching "the important lesson" to the audience...
It wouldn't be that much of a problem if the message itself wasn't almost always about loving your family, the same message just gets boring after awhile.
@Kait0w0 He's just setting an example. The lessons, even though useful, and generic are commonly used. Soul to me is an exception since its talking about valuing the little things in life (which not many do). However, turning read has the same "Be yourself" lesson that wears out with each movie that uses it.
@@Stickamajig i don’t think that’s the exact theme of “Turning Red”. The moral of the movie was more like learning to embrace all the weird things that come with being yourself and not feeling ashamed of it, especially by your own family. That’s pretty different from most other films where instead of the protagonist learning the lesson of acceptance, it’s society itself.
For me, the Toy Story 1-3 trilogy is like the perfect 3 course meal, where you're perfectly satisfied, everything complimented each other and you're just leaving the restaurant, until the waiter suddenly slaps down a leftover portion of his nan's cheese and onion quiche on your table. That's quiche is Toy Story 4.
"No one's saying Pixar should only create masterpieces, that's a very unrealistic expectation to have even for a studio previously known for only creating masterpieces" this is the real problem, we got so spoiled for the first 10-15 years of Pixar that we forget the most special pieces of art are an exception, not the norm
That's well and good, the problem is Toy Story 4 destroyed established characters that have already gone through their arcs. Woody doesn't care about being a favorite toy he only wants his kid to be happy, Buzz doesn't believe himself to be a real space ranger, Jesse allowed herself to be loved again by a kid despite her fears and phobias, Woody came to terms with his mortality and wants to be there for his kid despite knowing he could break, Andy was able to let go of his childhood so that he could become an adult and all the toys basically got the lesson Woody and Buzz got in the first two movies. Loss, growing up, letting go, mortality, family, friendship, jealousy... The first three movies had it all only for it to be undone in 4. There are no good values in 4. The main antagonist bullies her way to a happy ending and never gets a comeuppance like in the previous 3 films, and Woody simps for a really abusive love interest. 4 didn't have to exist. Cars wasn't a masterpiece but it was still a solid movie. Monsters University wasn't a masterpiece and it was alright. I think even Monsters Inc wasn't a masterpiece and it was still good.
When I saw Toy Story 4, I was starting to think that some people were relying on animation and visuals more than storytelling and I was right. Sometimes, they do and get carried away, but Pixar should focus on animating AND telling great stories.
I think animation dorks need to take a seat and read a novel if they're looking for "great storytelling". Animation was always about visuals first and story/writing secondary. Pixar films were a fun novelty for a time when cg animation was relatively new to the mainstream, but taking them for what they are at their core: they're above average "family" flicks parents can plop their kids in front of and not feel completely guilty since they aren't actively insulting in quality compared to other children's media.
@@welfare_king Not necessarily, "story is king" is a guideline Pixar used to emphasize during the production of their films. Animation as a medium can enhance an already-strong story, and the thing that used to set Pixar apart from other studios was their ability to innovate with both. The problem is that Pixar has been leaning on their animation too heavily and expecting it to make up for stories that aren't that spectacular, in a time where realistic CG animation also isn't that groundbreaking anymore. Their films no longer have a balance of high quality and feel more like fancy tech demos with serviceable stories attached.
motha effin facts. It seems Pixar really hoped their nostalgia train would keep riding on but it gets boring seeing the same movies just with different characters.
@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 all Disney had last year was red panda and strange world that no one watched, & buzz light year which I’d rather watch the cartoon instead.
@@blake2521 ah I see. Yeah it sucks that more of their films are basically getting dropped off on a streaming service instead of the big screen. Disney really showing their respect to their own in that regard.
Personally, I really like Monsters University. For a post-Cars 2 prequel, it’s actually really enjoyable and heartfelt. I don’t feel like it undid anything from the original movie, if anything it added more to Mike and Sully’s friendship.
I loved the Mitchell’s VS The Machines on so many levels. But the one that comes to mind after watching this video is the art style. It incorporated a hand-drawn look into the animation, so that if you looked closely you could see pencil lines and brush strokes on the characters. Of course it was CG, but it was convincing and served as a constant reminder that you were looking at a piece of art. It also used what I would call “slapstick animation”, where characters and objects morphed and stretched for comedic effect and sometimes pulled impossible facial expressions. I’ve definitely been missing that type of animation in the past 15 years.
I'm glad that Monsters University isn't really lumped with the other sequels, that film has always stood out to me more than the other Pixar sequels. It's a film I really liked as a child, and still like even today. I wouldn't call it among Pixar's best, but it stands as a certified diamond in the rough for me when discussing Pixar's 2010s output.
The amount if times I re watched this movie is a lot...I really enjoy it and monsters Inc., coco, and sometimes tangled since she's my favorite princess🌸
What needs to change? Answer: Better writing. One of reason Spider verse and puss last wish stand out, isn't it art/animation direction,( it certainly help but only for so long.) it writing that pushes it story from being good to great.
Absolutely. That and respect for both the characters and audience. Both films mentioned weren't afraid to tackle more mature subjects and did so respectfully, and balanced it well with the theme and story so it didn't feel out of place, and felt natural and necessary for the characters and their arcs.
This is true, I find that films (even if they aren't amazing visually) can be saved with a good/great story, animation is a good example of this. A lot of animations I love aren't exactly filled to the brim with expense.
@@thomasffrench3639 That's not really a valid comparison. Getting 'a higher salary' is something that is more often than not out of your control. If you can't put the passion into making a good story and don't care to fix any of it's flaws, that's almost entirely on the writer. Corporate intervention is the only exception to this, but it's not always the case.
I think if they stopped doing so many sequels and instead did standalone projects as they did before they would have a much better reputation soul and luca are very beloved and turning red as mixed as it is still has a lit of people who genuinely love it.
I've been saying that the newer Pixar movies have an uncanny valley vibe to then because the textures and lights are just so realistic and the caricature character designs totally clash with that. Thank you for bringing that up in your video. I thought I was the only one being bothered by it. Animation is an interesting medium that has the ability to tell stories live-action can not. If your film looks like a live-action except the characters it gets hard to accomplish that magic. (again, the work is admirable. But is it necessary?)
I don't think the issue is Pixars visual style, its the quality of their stories that have gone down hill. Changing the visuals might give us a sense of awe and wonder but Puss and Boots The Last Wish, Spider-verse and Arcane have amazing visuals AND great stories.
Look I don't think you're wrong about the stories, but I can guarantee that the unique visual style elevates the quality of those movies by an extreme amount. That scene in spider verse where miles makes "the leap of faith" just will not work as well in a standard 3d animated environment. I'm a big anime fan. I cannot even begin to explain how animation is EXTREMELY UNDERUTILIZED in action scenes. In puss in boots, they lean heavily on their mixed usage of 2d and 3d animation in action scenes. It works really well.
I really do genuinely believe Pixar WANTS to do new and creative things. But the hungry corporate bigwigs running Disney just wants them to do the same series over and over again
Honestly that pretty much applies to ALL of the aspiring creators at Disney. The execs don’t care what they put out as long as it makes da money and is accessible to all.
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossom on the contrary, Disney are so obsessed with their image that they put every one of their compagnies in to a very very very tight strict little box. remember what Alex Hirsh had to endure just to be able to finish Gravity Falls?? Yeah, exactly. So I'm not surprised Pixar is "playing it safe", Disney has them by the cherries. especially since Pixar is like, one of the most well-known acquisitions of Disney, therefore considered somewhat of an "extension" of their own animation studio.
Pixar has lost many (most?) of the writers/directors that made the golden age possible and their replacements seem to be rushing away from the practices of their predecessors. Meanwhile Disney infects everything related to them with the "Play it safe cash-grab" virus. It is probably safe to say that while Pixar still has a lot of talent on staff they simply are not the same studio they once were and have no real interest in going back.
This. Companies don't really exist. Studios don't really exist. It is the people in them that make them what they are. Corporate policies and practices can give them shape and direction but soul and vision comes from the people not the board room. When those people leave you just can't replace them easily.
I like to headcanon that Lightyear is an actual movie in the Toy Story universe and this is like a rebooted version that Andy went to go see with his kids, only to walk out highly dissatisfied with how they slandered one of his childhood favorite toys/heroes.
Mike and Sully have turned Monsters, Inc. into a place that brings laughter to children instead of fear. Dory has reunited with her parents and they’re living with Nemo and Marlin as one big family. Lightning McQueen has chosen to pass the torch to Cruz and step into Doc Hudson’s role as a mentor. The Incredibles are finally able to come out of hiding and be heroes once again. Woody has accepted that Bonnie will be okay without him and discovered a new purpose in helping other toys find owners. These are all great stories, but they are over. It’s time for Pixar to move on.
Lightyear's worst sin on top of everything is make it's trademark food look disgusting. Fictional food always looks delicious and they fucked it up with the 'meat sandwich'
I feel like Pixar is struggling to find itself again. Onward, in a way, started a new era for the company. It was the first movie they made where John Lasseter wasn't at the helm of the studio, so every film that has come out since then has been entirely new blood attached. Some of them stick to landing like Soul, Luca and Turning Red. Other's do.. *not.* And it doesn't really help that they're also still under Disney's thumb at the end of the day (I'm pretty sure at this point they were outright FORCED to make Toy Story 5) At the end of the day though, there's still plenty of talent at the company; but they're in the midst of trying to find out what works and what doesn't. Which isn't inherently a bad thing, but doesn't really bode well when DreamWorks is back on the rise and ready to leave Pixar in the dust.
What do you mean by "they're in the midst of trying to find out what works and what doesn't"? Pixar has been around for a while now; they should already know what works this far into their existence. If you're referring to the future of their style, you should make that clear. Signature styles are fine, as long as they can evolve over time.
A good story doesn’t need good animation but good animation can’t stand without a good story. My animation professor told me that. Pixar is facing a passing of the baton era where the old staff is retiring and placing the torch in the next. That’s why so much is all over the place. They need to grow into their own.
I think part of the problem is that Disney is to blame. Ever since it bought out Pixar, Pixar has gone downhill, and it's being used as a zombified cash cow for the Mouse.
I think it doesn’t help that both Disney and Pixar both make 3d animated films that look very similar to each other. I think Pixar has just played it safe for too long with 3d animation.
I know you guys are on a REEEEE DISNEY EVIL MOUSE BAD RABBLE RABBLE kick but like, Pixar is not failing just because you personally don't like one of their movies.
Pixar is starting to become like Disney itself. Especially with the recent blaming fans for Lightyear’s failure. Which is honestly something I’d never expect Pixar to do. It’s sad that Pixar is now starting to become what Disney has been. I wish these studios would be like they used too. But I don’t see any signs of that happening 😔 Makes me very happy that studios like DreamWorks are still wanting to make good stories instead of being what Disney is
@@winifredeghrudje9427 oh yeah. The lightyear director went "last jedi" on their asses, and it's embarrassing. It only justifies DreamWorks kicking their ass that year. They actually make movies people want.
@@rommix0 That's ONE director out of several. Doesn't mean it's the entirety of Pixar. Also, maybe the story and characters they find bad I would get (even tho I personally find them nice), but it's dumb to hate it and call it "woke" due to a same sex couple that's only seen on screen for 2 minutes or so. Seriously, that controversy was stupid as hell.
Modern pixar movies feel factory made, they just attach a random "deep" message to it and then try to build the story off of it. Most of the 2000s movies really feel like creative visions, the director had the chance to made what they truly wanted. They somehow mirrored the real world, despite their absurd premises. If ratatouille would have been made today, it probably would be the story of a poor kid that tries to become a rich chef, instead of a rat. I really hope pixar will find its footing again
Inside out felt like the last time they really tried to execute "what if x was alive?" Legitimately. Now it's always attaching a wacky concept to a message about family.
@@steamboatwill3.367 basically all of the recent ones, with exception of turning red and luca. Take lightyear for example, how can you make a movie about space rangers this boring and uninteresting? They tried too hard to tell a "serious" story, that they forgot what they were making
Nah. People have been lobbing similar criticisms at Pixar films even back then. I remember "Wall-E" being dismissed as another film about a living object getting lost and finding a family in a MAD Magazine spoof.
I’ve said before how Woody’s line at the end of Toy Story 3 “So long partner” felt like it was Woody saying that to Andy and the audience but he might as well have also said that to the old Pixar cause ever since that movie things have just been complicated for them, we went from most of the time having great to amazing movies (I think the weakest examples of that for most is Cars but I personally love the movie) from Toy Story to Toy Story 3 to then having great movies sometimes but usually having ones that are just forgotten or full on bad, Cars 2 may as well have been the biggest red flag in animated movie history, I mean I think we might have a bit of a problem when Disney and Pixar are making things that have been mostly forgotten with Lightyear and especially Strange World while Dreamworks makes a surprisingly really good movie with The Bad Guys and then suddenly Puss in Boots:the Last Wish comes out of nowhere, breaks down our doors like Papa Bear at Mama Luna’s place and says “You wanna see something cool?” (Seriously how was that movie so great)
I personally feel that Illumination gets more flak than it really deserves tbh. Maybe they're not the most stellar but they're hardly the incarnation of evil.
@@1Thunderfire that's precisely why they're so hated, they refuse to do anything that leads one way or the other and choose to remain in bland mediocrity.
@@1Thunderfire They make lazy, safe, bland, low-budget films and use celebrities and other manipulative tactics to get people into seats and turn a profit. They deserve all the flack. There’s a video by I Hate Everything about Sing, it details why Illumination’s existence is bad for film-making if anything
If we needed to have an Incredibles 3, I'd love to see it animated on 2s like Puss In Boots: The Last Wish or Into The Spiderverse. The Incredibles already has an almost comic book aesthetic to it, so it would probably look pretty cool
17:35 Side note about the Mario movie. The creator himself that made Mario, for those who don't know, he's really strict onto other companies that is approved by Nintendo to make the Mario characters and if they're designs do not live up to his standards, he will want them to try again. Yeah, that's why the characters look like the characters. For the most part. (So yeah, Illuminations couldn't cheat their way and make a very off putting designs like they usually do.)
Fantastic video. One thing I thought I should mention about monsters university - pixar WAS completely aware about mike and sully's childhood "friendship." When writing monsters university, pixar thought about having mike and sully meet as kids, hate each other, have sully move away, then have them re-meet in college and kick off the story. But they thought that this took up too much screen time and they believed it would weaken the movie. They said that they needed to choose to either make the story "Monsters Elementary" or "Monsters University," and because they wanted it to be a more mature story, they went with Monsters University. So yes, the movie does have its continuity error, but it is one that the creators made out of carefulness, not carelessness. Again, great video!
Dreamworks has finally found their flame again and is rising, now hopefully this will be the beginning of a renaissance for them as Pixar continues to fall into the pit of failure they’ve made for themselves.
I've got a video in the works about Dreamworks' surprising rise so look forward to that eventually. Originally just wanted to cover The Last Wish before every reviewer on the site suddenly clung to it for 2 entire months.
Why do you want so munch Pixar to fail? Do i have to remind that until a few years ago, DreamWorks was in the same place that Pixar is now? *Coff, coff... Spirit cgi, Boss Baby... Coff, coff*
I'm a bit concerned too that Pixar is starting to crib designs from Studio Ghibli, especially Luca and Turning Red, and now Elementals seems to have that similar feel too. If Pixar really can't define itself as a distinct studio anymore, then just merge it with Disney Animation already. I have a hard time telling the difference between the studios now anyway, the movies keep getting blander and more generic every year.
I swear in this recent years I have a hard time distinguishing between a Disney animated film to a Pixar one. All of their designs these days look so same-y. They always have this generic character designs
@@X2011racer Unique? The human characters in those movies ranged in style from cartoonish with realistic textures to semi-realistic humans who, by today's standards, look kinda uncanny valley. Plus, that style is not that unique to them anymore. Illumination has already copied that look.
Elemental turned out to be better than i expected, but definitely not the degree of pixar's hayday. But after the failure of toy story 4 you can only go up really.
I took a trip the past to watch Coraline. It still artistically holds up, it's such a timeless art style, I think it should be hosted in art classes. Even something like Tencent's Wish Dragon. While it was a pretty watery and predictable story. The brighter, more simplistic colors were a treat to look at.
It makes me so happy. You can even notice it in his content. For me it was the komi video that made me realized he changed from being mauler but different to having his own district and amazing content.
Agreed, I love reviewers that come from a place of love and care for the media they discuss, as opposed to just being angry at everything. I find the people who don't come from hate generally seem to have more nuanced discussions.
That 6 hour toy story 4 breakdown is still one of the most glorious, au tistic breakdowns I've ever seen towards a single movie. I can garantee you will probably get more entertainment and knowledge out of that video over Toy Story than TS4 alone.
I can't tell if your comment is meant to be positive or negative towards the video, haha. Honestly, while I do think that some of the points made there are very nitpicky, I also think that it's overall a pretty good breakdown that makes some solid points.
@@talhahhussain5603 I don't think it's so much "nitpicks" as it is that the guy really does go over every single issue, which is fantastic. I'm sure that he doesn't consider every issue to be on the same level, but it's important to mention them all. Death by a thousand cuts, you know? This is more of a mutilated corpse on fire, though.
@@talhahhussain5603 Your own opinion seems split in itself; you're not taking a firm stance either way. I can't tell if YOUR comment is meant to be positive or negative towards the video, to coin a phrase.
I really hope that Toy Story 5 turns out to be a puss in boots last wish situation, but I don’t see it, it’ll probably just be another pixar movie, not bad, but not groundbreaking
It feels like Toy Story 5 was their panic button in case one of their original films flopped at the box office. I bet they were gonna wait and see if elemental would fail to announce it months later, but it was Lightyear. A movie they had millions of ads for and was their first movie since the pandemic
This comment is 10 months old dude. It was closer to 5 years than 6 when I originally posted it. Either way I would argue that is still “recent years” when talking about animated films
@@Gattsu_the_struggler Wow, like that makes a big difference. That's like trying to claim that you or your girl had a 5yr old baby recently. You realize there are way more animated films than what Disney produces right? Even then being an animated film doesn't somehow make it more recent if that's what you're somehow trying to claim. Even if you look up the definition of recent it still doesn't support your wild claim considering that 5yrs isn't competitively close to the present.
Something that I'd really love to see Pixar do is make a feature length film in the same art style as their short, "Paper Man". That kind of 2.5d art style is amazing to look at, and I think it would really help them switch their visuals up in their feature length films.
I respect what you have to say, but I'd argue Luca is one of Pixar's best movies, precisely because it's not remarkable. It's an incredible slice-of-life movie which plays extremely straight, doesn't have an incredible amount of depth, but still manages to be really enjoyable and lovable. It's definitely one of my favorites.
It reminded me of Bolt in a way. It wasn't completely action-packed. It was a relatively simple story, but was charming in it's deliver and characters. It's nice to have movies like that from time to time, especially when so many feel like they move constantly without pausing to take a breath.
@@tymunster That's fair, it's not for everyone, and it isn't a big favorite of mine though I do love it. It was mostly the first thing that came to mind, especially because it got a lot of flack for the same reasons Luca did and people complained it was "boring" (not implying that's why you don't like it).
I liked Toy Story 4 but I've always felt it would've been better off as a spin-off. Also Fun Fact: Monsters University had a deleted scene that explained the line in MI with a scene with Mike & Sulley as kids in Kindergarten.
As a Cars 2 fan, I know I'm in the severe minority, but I just really enjoy that film. It breaks out of the mould of Pixar sequels by telling a complex spy thriller story, which is understandably weird to the audience but very fun!
You like what you like and that is fine. I've liked cars since I was young and considering I'm 40, that predated the Cars movie franchise...slightly lol. But now I'm running into people who like cars because they watched these movies, and Cars 2 specifically has come up a few times as the movie that made them realize "oh, there's different racing series?". Personally, it's not my favorite, but a lot of people hold it dear and I love and respect that. I know this review was pretty indifferent towards Luca and Turning Red, but I really liked them. Luca is just a nice feelgood movie for us I loved the tie ins to old monster movies and as my wife is an astronomy minor, the whole sequence about the telescope, Luca learning about stars and the universe, and then Luca day dreaming about going to Saturn's rings & Da Vinci's flying machine, is one of my favorite sequences of all movies. Regarding Turning Red, the joy of watching my wife tell our kids stories about how she saw herself in Mei and in some of her friends was wonderful, and my kids like that movie in part because of that now, even if the whole puberty/period aspect of it flew above their heads...my wife dragging out her tamagotchi and having it now be cared for (occasionally) by my oldest also helped.
DreamWorks has made some stinkers bun when they commit, THEY COMMIT. Prince of Egypt is incredibly beautiful, has amazing music and has a really strong story. Megamind is a bit of an underdog but is wildly beloved and praised by its fans, a movie with a really strong story. How to Train Your Dragon, Shrek and Kung fu Panda need no introduction. I absolutely love the animation medium and while there is space for more realistically stylized movies, like Soul for example, I dont want that to be he only standard for animation. The point of animation isnt for us to see how much we can make it mimic reality, its about how we can break out of it and see what we can create.
Pixar: ok guys, we promise: no more sequels! Orginal movies from now on! Disney: alright you had your 3 years of making no money, get back to making sequels so we can actually make money. Pixar: you put them as Disney Plus exclusives. Of course they made no money! Disney: cmon! Chop Chop!!
I’m cautiously optimistic that a new animation studio is gonna pop up that truly makes Pixar and Disney step up their game. Either that or they learn to take risks again after they lose to Pinocchio (especially when their own version wasn’t nominated for anything).
"I’m cautiously optimistic that a new animation studio is gonna pop up that truly makes Pixar and Disney step up their game." well yeah, that's naturally gonna happen. It's not a question of if, but rather when. Whether people realize it or not american animation is in a transitional period currently, both in the mainstream and underground. The new school of animators are gaining traction, and over time those influences they have garnered will evolve and dominate into something new.
In my opinion, Pixar truly died after Up. Their newer original films aren't the same as they once were (Brave, Luca, Good Dinosaur and Onward). Not to mention that the studio now relies more on sequels of popular franchises (Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Cars and Incredibles). Sure, they still gave us some very unique animated shorts (Lava, Boa and Piper) and made some good original movies (Inside Out, Coco, Turning Red and Soul), but they didn't save Pixar much anymore. (I feel like this studio is basically just "Disney Animation Studios 2.0" nowadays.)
I've always been a big fan of Luca, idk why it's not talked about much. Puss in Boots 2 does kinda demolish every other animated movie from the past few years though
I can get the realistic art style in Soul so that the real world contrasts with the afterlife, but they aren't pushing the boundaries the way animation can. 100% with you on Spider-Verse.
to be fair to turning red, i believe it was made for a very specific audience. i can understand how it may not resonate with someone who has never been a cringey-13-year-old-girl-starting-her-period but for me personally i found a lot of enjoyment in the film
The very racist xenophobic bit they cut out of the film for good reason is what turned me off. If they attempted to added that... well, I had no hope for the rest of it
Pixar was very important because it showed how unique and high quality animation could be. But most studios have their ups and downs, and inevitably fall, and become complacent but that’s where other studios come in and give them competition. I think this is really healthy, and hopefully new animation studios will make Pixar have to up their game. But who knows if that will happen?
I was lucky to go to Annecy Animation Festival last year. The Spiderverse sequel looks gorgeous and the antagonist is lovable but terrifying. The segments they showed us at the showcase looked like the sequel immediately picked up where we left off. It looks more bold and heartfelt and I’m super excited to watch the finished product!
I am glad you pointed out that Pixar has to compete with competitors, but I also think you should bring up that Pixar has to compete with indie studios/films such as MFKZ. I am also disappoint there is no mention of Cartoon Saloon and Laika. Still, great video!
I still think that lightyear should have had a post credit scene where it shows the movies credits on a living room tv with a kid in a red cowboy hat watching them (This being andy) And it would have implied that the lightyear movie is how andy found out about the buzz lightyear toy
I would have entirely forgiven the film if the after credits scene was adult andy being mad at how they remade the original animated movie/show into a sci-fi flick that's almost completely disconnected from the source material
I wish Pixar wasn't owned by Disney and instead owned by a company like Annapurna or A24, who are just now getting into animation themselves. With A24 releasing Hazbin Hotel, and Annapurna releasing the resurrected Nimona (Which Disney killed along with Blue Sky)g with Blue Sky), I glad there's now mini-major/independent outlets for animation.
This is kinda why I just try to get myself into animated films from smaller companies. At times, even animation of a low budget tend to be more creative with their ideas in how they want to tell a story.
I personally hate how clean the new artstyle is as of late, it's highly distracting to me when all the human characters have perfect ironed out faces that look like they're made of magical clay.
I’ll be honest. I definitely liked Finding Dory a lot when first seeing it. I saw the original Finding Nemo quite a bit before then, so I guess I was quite glad to see how they expanded the universe a little bit. And, while the rescue plot may be somewhat similar to the original FN, Dory has her own struggles with short term memory that make the whole thing feel a lot more meaningful and worthwhile than you described. The only thing I really didn’t like from the movie was Becky. She just seemed like a more obnoxious , unfunny replacement of the seagulls from the original, which thankfully did make a small appearance. It just felt like she was there at the expense of Marlin’s sanity. But, then again, I haven’t seen it in a while. Maybe I just liked it more than I should because marine life interests me a lot.
HOLY MOLY THIS WAS A GREAT VIDEO! But in all seriousness, I actually loved how you ACTUALLY criticized Pixar instead of just saying "guYs, pixAr fElL oF, aNd tHeir curRent moVies suCk.” Also I love how you highlight the issue with them at the moment: their animation department. This has been on my mind after I watched Puss in Boots, but, Pixar needs to up their game. And I really hope they can find unique styles and great art directions in the future! Because if this doesn’t happy anytime soon, they are going to fall off, and lose to the competition. And also, more and more people are not gonna be excited for their upcoming movies anymore. Instead they are gonna look forward to other studios like Sony and Dreamworks! Anyways that’s my comment, have an epic day!
One other thing to note too with Pixar is their decline in emotionally impactful music. A good example of Pixar music in its prime was in monster inc when the main theme plays as sully says goodbye to boo, making it all the more bittersweet. Like I was balling my eyes at the part and a great factor in this was the music. However when I think of more recent movies, I couldn’t even tell you the “main theme” for any of them. So not only has the animation for Pixar films become less and less distinct, so has their overall sound.
At this point, I feel like Pixar is being held at gunpoint by Disney for pumping out more sequels. There is no way that Pixar is willingly climb this especially since they said TY4 was supposed to be the last one
I think the CEO of Pixar also said at one point, something along the lines of “We have to keep making sequels to be financially successful”. Which really just makes things look worse.
Honestly, I think Pixar is capable of doing unique and appealing styles (if you've seen their shorts you'll know) but I think Disney is really holding them back from doing something entirely different.
Pixar did do unique art style with Turning Red where they added Anime elements to the animation and everyone made fun of it and told Pixar "Don't fix what aren't broke" and now everyone is saying Pixar is playing safe with their animation and should try new style like Dream Works did with Puss in Boots The Last Wish.
True, I love Pixar and I like their movies, especially films like Luca, Coco, and Turning Red, but I just want them to do better and they need to take notes from other animation studios.
Shame Pixar changed to become a former shell of what they once were. And giving Toy Story another sequel crosses the line by a mile. They impacted animation, but something is clearly wrong with their recent movies despite being solid nevertheless. Will there ever be a next Incredibles that dissects the very genre it's in? Or will there be a new groundbreaking Pixar film with Spiderverse inspired animation and an interesting plot? Who the hell knows...
It is harder to find new ground to tell stories on. Audience members were mad that Lightyear did not rip off storyline from The Empire Strikes Back the way that Toy Story 2 did.
Disney have definitely been meddling with Pixar recently and making them play it safe and make a ton of sequels, it's like they forgot that Pixar became what it is from their first decade making incredible original films
I think the reason some scenes in Pixar movies look like live action is because of a ripple affect from other movies and the engines developed for them The good dinosaur really experimented with the environment of trees and grass Moana showed what realistic animated water looks like Even tangled had a hair engine to simulate realism I think Pixar just needs to find the balance between cartoony and realistic because the cartoon characters clash with the realistic backgrounds sometimes
It's kinda of a vicious cycle that Pixar used to be seen as the breakthrough animation needed thanks to Toy Story, but now is kinda relying on nostalgia and playing it safe to stay culturally relevant, while other studios are the ones currently pushing the boundaries.
I like how this video has a lot of actual criticism instead of only pointing out the bad things, it really improves the quality of your video and ideas
Pixar movies have a sort of hold on realism and details, while other companies to me don’t focus only on those facts but create a more cartoonish atmosphere leading audiences to like the fresh take after decades on the usual realistic designs.
@@lukebytes5366 I haven't seen a single video that doesn't explain well why that is. Gamefreak are clearly rushing games out and it's hurting the quality.
As someone who's watched you since I think the star videos? You've matured a lot man. You've become more level, earnest, and well spoken. I'm proud of you man.
My biggest problem with modern Pixar (specifically since Incredibles II) is the lack of creativity. The writers for that movie had fourteen years to come up with a story just as good as the original, and instead we got Evelynn Devor. We got dumb selfish Bob. We got shouting useless Dash. WE GOT DEUS EX JACK-JACK. And don't even get me started on Toy Story 4. You may say it's fine, but I think it's an atrocity and Gaming Magic 13 has every right to shred it for six hours. Whether it's Disney putting too much pressure on Pixar or hiring good creative writers is harder than obsidian blocks in Minecraft, it doesn't matter. Pixar is not as good as it once was and if they don't change then they're going to be drowned out by other studios who have stepped up their game.
At the end of The _Incredibles,_ the Underminer declares war on all of humanity. At the beginning of _The Incredibles II,_ the Underminer is merely robbing a bank. They retconned the first film to get rid of a more interesting idea than the plot and villain they ended up going with.
Between Arcane, Spiderverse, Mitchels VS Mechines, and Puss & Boots Last Wish the future of animation looks to more anime inspired! The emphasis on energy and sharp action lines that all those movies and shows have are ripped right out of the anime and manga playbook. I also feel given the acceptance of anime from never generations of audiences and creator it's only gonna grow!
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Loving these smaller non review videos ur making keep it up 👍
Will you do a video on the (supposed) downfall of the MCU?
Judging from the video, you REALLY don't like Cars 3, huh? It's a shame that you didn't elaborate on why you feel that way.
Feel like Disney needs to give them complete creative freedom now cause rn it feels like their being limited to what they can do or make.
I totally agree. Back then, they were just chugging out hit after hit.
Both complete creative freedom but also just higher standards too. I mean don’t get me wrong it’s not like they can’t make good movies but the last real hitter I remember from them is Coco. Almost everything since the 2010s has been forgettable or worse with a few small bright spots.
@@thecod2345 Wreck it Ralph is from Disney, not Pixar
@@el_mr6439 True, Disney and Pixar kind of blend together lately because of the ownership and frankly, their styles have kind of meshed together but the point stands. I guess you can replace Wreck it Ralph with Coco then but either way, they simultaneously need more freedom but also more quality control.
@The Cod I'd say that's especially true since they are both 3d studios.
It's weird because DreamWorks last year created two films: The Bad Guys and Puss in Boots The Last Wish that destroyed both Disney and Pixar, I swear it's like the 2000s again
I seriously hope that dreamworks and a couple other companies start outdoing Pixar completely so that Pixar is forced to shape up
@@ochuspin or Pixar becoming their own independent studio because it’s obviously that Disney is sabotaging them
Dreamworks is on fire and i’m really happy with that. It’s like they make animated movies that Disney won’t. I hope Kung Fu Panda 4 is epic.
@@onepresence9460 but here's the thing they're focusing way too much on existing properties like how to train your dragon the franchise already got lots of TV series especially one that takes place after the last movie now they're making a live-action version of how to train your dragon
In the 2000s, Pixar were at their best, while DreamWorks also had some great movies of their own, albeit a bit hit and miss. Now I believe DreamWorks has the capacity to do better in recent memory.
I feel like this can all apply to Disney’s animated movies as well. Hell everything at this point. They’ve been playing it extremely safe and doing the bare minimum. Making products that are easy money rather than innovate
*Most Disney owned properties
Yeah I mean Disney straight up owns Pixar now, I think the critiques in the video are honestly more relevant to Disney than they are Pixar.
You know you just described the MCU as well XD
@@alexwells1593 Ant-Man, Moon Knight, Loki, Thor, Doctor Strange, Hawkeye-
@@fylvidz thor is a joke now and doctor strange and loki got upstaged by females
The main issue I've been having with Pixar (and Disney tbh) lately is that the plots are messy. Like really messy. Pixar used to be known for having the best scripts, tightest pacing, a perfect balance of humor & sincere moments of honest reflection from their characters. Now it feels like they are struggling to nail down the exact story they want to tell. The finess is gone.
Perfectly said!
In terms of the sequels or the original films? Honestly, for the most part, I still think they’ve been delivering on the latter. The sequels are where they tend to be hit-or-miss.
I think this issue started when Disney bought Pixar. That's the only explanation I have.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 i mean, for me even their original films doesn't compare to the ones that they put out from before. It's like there's something in their stories that are missing some times and I can't seem to put my finger in it.
@@JohnDoe-gt3jr I really don’t see how they should. They’re still just as memorable and emotionally engaging as the ones that came before. Maybe it’s just fatigue?
I have my issues with Toy Story 4, but my biggest issue is easily the fact that they lobotomised Buzz
They tried to make Buzz and the rest of the original crew look like morons so that we’d feel less bad about Woody leaving them behind
@@scrunkle8638SOMEONE PUT IT INTO WORDS, FINALLY!
FIRE IN THE HOLE (sorry)
To be fair to Monsters University, while I'm not a fan I do think it has a great message and something new to say, namely 'sometimes you can't achieve your dreams, but that's ok' and to a lesser extent 'University / college isn't necessary to do well in life'. Both messages are rare to see in family films.
Monster University’s theme rivals movies like Ratatouille and Inside Out. I’ll even throw a bone and say Cars 3 isn’t too far behind. The issue comes from most of Monster University isn’t about the theme, and Cars 3 treats their theme like a running gag half the time.
I love the film for its message. As a teacher, I know most students will never achieve their dreams just because life is hard, and that's ok. We see so many movies in which the blind triple-amputee twelve year old manages to hit the game winning home run. That's no real. It feels good, but it tends to be a lie. The idea that you can still find alternative paths to happiness is an important message.
I don't understand in what world that's a good message. It's just cope.
@@ddd-op5wy It's good because it is true. It is preparing kids for reality.
@@ddd-op5wy not really since life isn't easy or fair, it makes sense you'll fail especially things like college which can be hard
It's ironic how Dreamworks, a company created because its creator hated Disney, has been pumping out films that rival Disney and Pixar.
Nowadays when I see a Pixar movie I just marvel at the settings and the details than the actual movie.
Encanto is the only movie in recent memory from the company where I enjoyed it.
the creator at DreamWorks saw the writing on the wall decades ago. pixar's creativity has been strangled out of them by the house of mouse and it shows, very paint by numbers movies and visuals with scripts that are very basic and boring.
Spite is one hell of a drug
Encanto is still just an 8/10 movie
Encanto is just a simple little movie that plays it safe and is more targeted towards kids
@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003 8/10 is not a bad score or even just a "decent score" tho
I feel annoyed that they keep making it seem like each "Toy Story" film is the grande finale of the franchise and then the next one is announced. It almost feels manipulative.
Toy Story 3: "Yes, here's the ending shot of a sky that looks like Andy's cloud wallpaper, symbolizing the end of the toys' last chapter with Andy."
*9 years later*
Toy Story 4: "Buzz and Woody say good bye to each other thus ending the chapter of their story."
*4 years later*
Pixar: "We promise Toy Story 5 is worthy of its existence!"
WHEN'S IT GONNA END?!
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Toy Story 3 was supposed to be the end of things. The final part of a toy's journey is getting thrown out and ending up in a junkyard or landfill. The junkyard was deliberately put into Toy Story 3 for that very reason. It was supposed to have a sense of finality, and it was a grand spectacle. It was outright stated in the director's commentary.
Then Toy Story 4 crops up almost a decade later and wrecks shop. The film is a complete and utter mess, and the director's commentary confirms this.
Square Enix did that with the Tómb Raider reboot trilogy.
They said before each game: "this is where Lara Croft turns into the Tomb Raider"
Problem is, who will be the main focus for Toy Story 5? Woody or Buzz, or a completely new cast of characters?
@@X2011racer Either they'll follow Woody and Bo Peep's adventures as lost toys or they'll focus on Bonnie's toys.
IMO the biggest sin toy story 4 committed was selling a toy of “Forky” because it’s supposed to be a toy a kid made themselves out of a fork (who woulda guessed) in arts and craft time in school. That kind of defeats the whole purpose selling it pre made XD
Brave - a story that Pixar spent more time making the main character’s hair just right than exploring her supposed expert skill (archery)
so true though. i mean her hair does look incredible but it shouldnt of been a priority really
@@xshxr What about Soul?
Brave is honestly a guilty pleasure for me.
I love how everyone agrees Toy Story 3 should’ve been the last Toy Story movie.
I don't agree with that. That film was more about Andy's toys coming to terms with their fate and Woody being kind enough to give them a second life, Toy Story 4 was Buzz giving another one back to Woody as a thank you, by encouraging him to do the deed with Bo Peep and her friends.
Because that is how it should have been? TS4 felt unnecessary but you can maybe argue it was a epilogue, but I have no hopes for TS5 after the mid TS4 and the disappointing Lightyear
For sure.
@@HarmonySword Toy Story 4 really should had been a spin off Bo Beep film.
We could’ve gotten a special about Woody’s ending but Toy Story 4 isn’t unneeded, but it’s certainly not needed.
I believe Pixar and Disney can pull off what Spiderverse did but are creatively stifled due to the corporate part of Disney. At times it feels like Pixar has grown fearful of the company and tries to keep em in their good graces
Yeah! I have that same gut feeling too when ever I watch their modern movies. Like something tells me their movies could be spectacular, but something is limiting them. It’s kind of like the current MCU movies right now.
Disney is getting too involved into products and marketing that it has spilled into the creative process of the movies "This won't be marketable!" "The market tends to not like these ideas" "green is not a creative colour" they are not a big studio anymore, for 3 decades now they are a multibillion COMPANY, and they are a company at first, a brand at second, a theme park at third, and a studio at fourth.
@@Gustoberg a hierarchy if you will
Pixar used to discard any ideas that weren't creative enough. If a project had a creative idea but wasn't interesting enough, then Pixar would bring in a veteran to take over and whip things into shape. They weren't afraid to overhaul or scrap projects entirely if things weren't coming together. Pixar might actually be a case where more creative control is a bad thing.
Yknow I really like spider verse style but I don’t want every studio to suddenly animate only in that style, because then we would have a problem again: everything would look the same
Bro if Disney came out with a 2D animated film out of nowhere I’d watch that so fast.
I would too, but only if it were innocent.
@@artbytesia sorry for a weird question but what do you mean by innocent like child friendly or?
I think their next film, Wish, is going to be a blend of 2D and 3D animation.
@@ShivJ16 like 2.5D?
@@zguyofficial6206 Not sure if that's the right term lol but I guess so
“Luca” felt more like what Pixar is known for, and it honestly feels like it handles the idea of growing up better than certain movies.
I liked the movie, but I could barely even tell it had a message other than “Be Yourself.” Which is the most stereotypical message, which can probably be incorporated into any piece of media.
@@TJ-hg6op who cares, it was a fun movie.
@@Guyfrom2001 I agree, but I didn’t see a growing up theme in the movie.
@@TJ-hg6op I don’t like getting over analytical and explaining myself with a 500 word essay, but this is essentially growing up like becoming independent and maturing. He goes from following his mother’s orders and doing what she says to making mistakes, suffering their consequences, and repairing relationships. He chases after a thrill without considering consequences, and pays the price later, then instead of taking the easy path and crawling back to his mother hoping she would take him back, he owns up to his actions and sacrifices his own needs for the sake of his friends. Like in practice the act of going to school is a good thing, but it’s more about how he did it, again by betraying trusts in a pursuit of the adventure, but by acting selflessly and making sacrifices he earns it. But at the end of the day who cares, it was a good movie.
@@TJ-hg6op So? Even if it is overplayed, the message is still important. There's a reason why it's still prevalent.
3:29 Also, Ratatouille has the rather deceptive "Everyone can cook" message as well. Deceptive because it can be easily misinterpreted as "anyone can do anything" (the "if you can dream it you can do it" message that plagues the morale of many stories) but as Hugo explained in the end, it actually means "Not everyone is capable of everything, but for something that requires talent, you can never know where this talent comes from; so you need to get rid of preconceptions and be open-minded"
Allot of no talent people are getting famous now a days thus the saying "You can do anything you set your mind to" is true.
To me, this is also further illustrated with the fact that Gasteau’s book isn’t called “Everyone Can Cook”, but rather “Anyone Can Cook”. I interpret this as him saying that any person has the capacity to learn and do more professional things. It may or may not be you, it may or may not be someone else, but talent exists and anyone is capable of possessing it.
Watching them continue to destroy Toy Story is incredibly heartbreaking.
How the last one made 1B$ and got postive reviews tf you mean
The entire idea of a Toy Story 5 is just bonkers
@@MonsterParadise She’s exaggerating for likes ignore her
It wasn’t until 2019 (m.th-cam.com/video/d5ngi3Qc-GY/w-d-xo.html, m.th-cam.com/video/U__oaZ9FiXM/w-d-xo.html, m.th-cam.com/video/rlKvQxtlrQ8/w-d-xo.html) when what used to be one of Pixar’s best franchises alongside Finding Nemo (which it still is because for 7 years so far, the last thing they made in the FN franchise was Finding Dory) and Cars (but then came the weakest instalment of a formerly good series since Cars 2. m.th-cam.com/video/I2uykmqKBhw/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/brnIypkBnCw/w-d-xo.html) was given the shaft by Josh Crueley, Dingus McLane, Brian “Fee” Lasseter (and to think he was the same guy that gave us Cars 3) and Steve Purhell (yeah, I got their names mixed up for the LULZ, but at the same time, it’s because of people like these that make Pixar a shell of its former self (although even to this day, there are also times when they can make more masterpieces like in the 2000s, from Onward to Soul to Luca to Turning Red in the very early 2020s)!
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I loved that mention of if Toy Story 5 turned Woody into a serial killer!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 (although in all seriousness, I don’t think even Pixar would come to that. Nickelodeon? Maybe. Disney in general? Again, maybe. But Pixar? For all its misses (and hits)? Unlikely.)
It’s not that bad, pretty funny and dark kinda
Dreamworks usually makes sequels because they have new stories to tell in the same universe.
Disney/Pixar makes sequels for nostalgia money.
Disney: "The competition released an original animated film?? Bring out the sequels that honestly nobody asked not wanted!!!!"
You’re literally talking about the studio that released Shrek the Third, Boss Baby 2, and Trolls 2. All of which range from bad to mediocre. Dreamworks pumps out plenty of bad sequel films to turn a profit just like literally every other major 3D animation studio.
I’ll agree that Dreamworks is generally better at handling sequels than Disney/Pixar (HTTYD 2&3, Kung Fu Panda 2&3, Shrek 2, and Puss in Boots: The Last Wish) but they still have their fair share of cash cow sequels.
@@waffleconehat i would like to disagree with the Trolls 2 statement. While yes, it was a bad movie, it actually expanded the world (somewhat).
stop with Toy Story nonsense, it'll end up like Ice age
@@waffleconehat Dreamworks has put out more good sequels bad because their stories can be continued. The movie feels complete, but you still wish to see more adventures. Modern Disney's stories rarely warrant sequels, that's why they are bad. You don't really know where else these characters could be taken. In films that had potential for sequels, Incredibles, Frozen, Wreck it Ralph, but they fall victim to self-awareness humor, faux-progressivism, and repeating beats from the original films to recapture what made them work.
The problem with recent Pixar/Disney movies(at least for me) is that they are so focused on the message itself, rather than telling a fun, interesting, heartwarming story. It feels like they are preaching "the important lesson" to the audience...
It wouldn't be that much of a problem if the message itself wasn't almost always about loving your family, the same message just gets boring after awhile.
@@lukebytes5366Soul, Turning Red and other recent movies arent mainly about loving family tf u talkin about
I've only seen a couple of their films suffer from this (namely Raya, Frozen 2, and Lightyear). The rest I thought were pretty enjoyable.
@Kait0w0 He's just setting an example. The lessons, even though useful, and generic are commonly used. Soul to me is an exception since its talking about valuing the little things in life (which not many do). However, turning read has the same "Be yourself" lesson that wears out with each movie that uses it.
@@Stickamajig i don’t think that’s the exact theme of “Turning Red”. The moral of the movie was more like learning to embrace all the weird things that come with being yourself and not feeling ashamed of it, especially by your own family. That’s pretty different from most other films where instead of the protagonist learning the lesson of acceptance, it’s society itself.
For me, the Toy Story 1-3 trilogy is like the perfect 3 course meal, where you're perfectly satisfied, everything complimented each other and you're just leaving the restaurant, until the waiter suddenly slaps down a leftover portion of his nan's cheese and onion quiche on your table. That's quiche is Toy Story 4.
And guess what. Now they’re making a 5th one.
@@sonicfan9144 I know. Too much quiche
It's not a bad quiche. But i didn't want quiche.
It's not even good quiche. Something feels super off about it, and one bite gives you instant diarroehea.
"No one's saying Pixar should only create masterpieces, that's a very unrealistic expectation to have even for a studio previously known for only creating masterpieces"
this is the real problem, we got so spoiled for the first 10-15 years of Pixar that we forget the most special pieces of art are an exception, not the norm
I agreed however I still think Pixar can do better, we know they have the talent, the technology, & the money.
yea except its not "the norm" its just straight dogshit. Like worse than dreamworks. That was never the case in the past
That's well and good, the problem is Toy Story 4 destroyed established characters that have already gone through their arcs. Woody doesn't care about being a favorite toy he only wants his kid to be happy, Buzz doesn't believe himself to be a real space ranger, Jesse allowed herself to be loved again by a kid despite her fears and phobias, Woody came to terms with his mortality and wants to be there for his kid despite knowing he could break, Andy was able to let go of his childhood so that he could become an adult and all the toys basically got the lesson Woody and Buzz got in the first two movies. Loss, growing up, letting go, mortality, family, friendship, jealousy... The first three movies had it all only for it to be undone in 4. There are no good values in 4. The main antagonist bullies her way to a happy ending and never gets a comeuppance like in the previous 3 films, and Woody simps for a really abusive love interest. 4 didn't have to exist. Cars wasn't a masterpiece but it was still a solid movie. Monsters University wasn't a masterpiece and it was alright. I think even Monsters Inc wasn't a masterpiece and it was still good.
@@dizzydial8081 mfw characters change after 15 years 🤯
The more bad movies Pixar puts out the better the classics look in comparison.
When I saw Toy Story 4, I was starting to think that some people were relying on animation and visuals more than storytelling and I was right. Sometimes, they do and get carried away, but Pixar should focus on animating AND telling great stories.
I think animation dorks need to take a seat and read a novel if they're looking for "great storytelling". Animation was always about visuals first and story/writing secondary. Pixar films were a fun novelty for a time when cg animation was relatively new to the mainstream, but taking them for what they are at their core: they're above average "family" flicks parents can plop their kids in front of and not feel completely guilty since they aren't actively insulting in quality compared to other children's media.
@@welfare_king Not necessarily, "story is king" is a guideline Pixar used to emphasize during the production of their films. Animation as a medium can enhance an already-strong story, and the thing that used to set Pixar apart from other studios was their ability to innovate with both. The problem is that Pixar has been leaning on their animation too heavily and expecting it to make up for stories that aren't that spectacular, in a time where realistic CG animation also isn't that groundbreaking anymore. Their films no longer have a balance of high quality and feel more like fancy tech demos with serviceable stories attached.
@@Chiwowza
As if.
@@welfare_king No reason at all why we can't have both.
@@welfare_king animation is just a medium, not a genre to just go “oooo, ahhh” thats what popcorn action flicks are for
Pixar is on the fall. DreamWorks is on the rise. Tables have been turned, and Pixar has been out played. Nuff said.
motha effin facts. It seems Pixar really hoped their nostalgia train would keep riding on but it gets boring seeing the same movies just with different characters.
I heard more about Puss in Boots than the movie they released (I even forgot but I think there is a lgbtq character). Good thing I watch PIB
@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 all Disney had last year was red panda and strange world that no one watched, & buzz light year which I’d rather watch the cartoon instead.
One famous animated crab once told me, “Pixar makes sequels for money, Illumination makes sequels for money, Dreamworks makes sequels for ART.”
@@josiahtheawkward6008 Even Shrek the Third??
Pixar slowly becoming the Disney + company is sad
Pixar *is* the Disney company tho. At least a subsidiary of it.
@@horpuscorpus8299 what I mean is any film Disney does not have faith in from Pixar is now dropping to Disney +
@@blake2521 ah I see. Yeah it sucks that more of their films are basically getting dropped off on a streaming service instead of the big screen. Disney really showing their respect to their own in that regard.
@@horpuscorpus8299 lets see how elemental does in theatres
Personally, I really like Monsters University. For a post-Cars 2 prequel, it’s actually really enjoyable and heartfelt. I don’t feel like it undid anything from the original movie, if anything it added more to Mike and Sully’s friendship.
I loved the Mitchell’s VS The Machines on so many levels. But the one that comes to mind after watching this video is the art style. It incorporated a hand-drawn look into the animation, so that if you looked closely you could see pencil lines and brush strokes on the characters. Of course it was CG, but it was convincing and served as a constant reminder that you were looking at a piece of art.
It also used what I would call “slapstick animation”, where characters and objects morphed and stretched for comedic effect and sometimes pulled impossible facial expressions. I’ve definitely been missing that type of animation in the past 15 years.
I'm glad that Monsters University isn't really lumped with the other sequels, that film has always stood out to me more than the other Pixar sequels. It's a film I really liked as a child, and still like even today. I wouldn't call it among Pixar's best, but it stands as a certified diamond in the rough for me when discussing Pixar's 2010s output.
Oh yeah I remember that movie was pretty good. The only thing I didn’t really enjoy was that I’m pretty sure it contradicted how Sully and Mike met
I just appreciate how they tried to do a prequel instead of a standard sequel.
I liked Finding Dory though too
The amount if times I re watched this movie is a lot...I really enjoy it and monsters Inc., coco, and sometimes tangled since she's my favorite princess🌸
It’s pretty good. Because of the “retcon” I just prefer to pretend that they we’re friends as kids but split before college.
What needs to change?
Answer: Better writing.
One of reason Spider verse and puss last wish stand out, isn't it art/animation direction,( it certainly help but only for so long.) it writing that pushes it story from being good to great.
Absolutely. That and respect for both the characters and audience. Both films mentioned weren't afraid to tackle more mature subjects and did so respectfully, and balanced it well with the theme and story so it didn't feel out of place, and felt natural and necessary for the characters and their arcs.
This is true, I find that films (even if they aren't amazing visually) can be saved with a good/great story, animation is a good example of this. A lot of animations I love aren't exactly filled to the brim with expense.
That’s like saying: how aren’t you rich? Just have a higher salary
@@thomasffrench3639 That's not really a valid comparison. Getting 'a higher salary' is something that is more often than not out of your control. If you can't put the passion into making a good story and don't care to fix any of it's flaws, that's almost entirely on the writer. Corporate intervention is the only exception to this, but it's not always the case.
@@thomasffrench3639 lmfao what a terrible comparison
I think if they stopped doing so many sequels and instead did standalone projects as they did before they would have a much better reputation soul and luca are very beloved and turning red as mixed as it is still has a lit of people who genuinely love it.
Luca was The most Bland movie Pixar has ever made
@@dylanmoore3201Personally, I thought it was pretty good but nothing compared to the likes of ratatouille
@@dylanmoore3201 yeah I would say it's an alright movie at best, I enjoyed it to an extent, but yeah it was pretty boring overall.
@@dylanmoore3201the good dinosaur is more bland so false
I've been saying that the newer Pixar movies have an uncanny valley vibe to then because the textures and lights are just so realistic and the caricature character designs totally clash with that. Thank you for bringing that up in your video. I thought I was the only one being bothered by it. Animation is an interesting medium that has the ability to tell stories live-action can not. If your film looks like a live-action except the characters it gets hard to accomplish that magic. (again, the work is admirable. But is it necessary?)
I don't think the issue is Pixars visual style, its the quality of their stories that have gone down hill. Changing the visuals might give us a sense of awe and wonder but Puss and Boots The Last Wish, Spider-verse and Arcane have amazing visuals AND great stories.
Look I don't think you're wrong about the stories, but I can guarantee that the unique visual style elevates the quality of those movies by an extreme amount.
That scene in spider verse where miles makes "the leap of faith" just will not work as well in a standard 3d animated environment.
I'm a big anime fan. I cannot even begin to explain how animation is EXTREMELY UNDERUTILIZED in action scenes. In puss in boots, they lean heavily on their mixed usage of 2d and 3d animation in action scenes. It works really well.
Why are we pitting all these great things against one another? I love them all.
It’s kinda fitting that the golden age of Pixar begins and Ends with Toy Story
I really do genuinely believe Pixar WANTS to do new and creative things.
But the hungry corporate bigwigs running Disney just wants them to do the same series over and over again
Exactly, people always seem to Forget that
Honestly that pretty much applies to ALL of the aspiring creators at Disney.
The execs don’t care what they put out as long as it makes da money and is accessible to all.
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossom on the contrary, Disney are so obsessed with their image that they put every one of their compagnies in to a very very very tight strict little box. remember what Alex Hirsh had to endure just to be able to finish Gravity Falls?? Yeah, exactly. So I'm not surprised Pixar is "playing it safe", Disney has them by the cherries. especially since Pixar is like, one of the most well-known acquisitions of Disney, therefore considered somewhat of an "extension" of their own animation studio.
Pixar has lost many (most?) of the writers/directors that made the golden age possible and their replacements seem to be rushing away from the practices of their predecessors. Meanwhile Disney infects everything related to them with the "Play it safe cash-grab" virus. It is probably safe to say that while Pixar still has a lot of talent on staff they simply are not the same studio they once were and have no real interest in going back.
I hear there making Toy Story 5😂😂😂😂 is that true
@@abayomitogun7425 Most likely. Since, of course, they learned all the wrong lessons from the failures of Lightyear and Strange world.
This. Companies don't really exist. Studios don't really exist. It is the people in them that make them what they are. Corporate policies and practices can give them shape and direction but soul and vision comes from the people not the board room. When those people leave you just can't replace them easily.
Well somehow Elemtal was made under the Disney shackles so…
I like to headcanon that Lightyear is an actual movie in the Toy Story universe and this is like a rebooted version that Andy went to go see with his kids, only to walk out highly dissatisfied with how they slandered one of his childhood favorite toys/heroes.
I will always resent how the first half of Soul was so amazing and then devolved into borderline Illumination levels of humour
Mike and Sully have turned Monsters, Inc. into a place that brings laughter to children instead of fear.
Dory has reunited with her parents and they’re living with Nemo and Marlin as one big family.
Lightning McQueen has chosen to pass the torch to Cruz and step into Doc Hudson’s role as a mentor.
The Incredibles are finally able to come out of hiding and be heroes once again.
Woody has accepted that Bonnie will be okay without him and discovered a new purpose in helping other toys find owners.
These are all great stories, but they are over. It’s time for Pixar to move on.
That’s… actually a pretty heartwarming summary of these endings
good ass comment
10,000 days in sequel limbo's long enough; they're going home.
The Toy Story 4 one is still iffy IMO..
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Didn’t the first Incredibles indicate that supers could come out of hiding by them being praised for defeating Syndromes robot?
Lightyear's worst sin on top of everything is make it's trademark food look disgusting. Fictional food always looks delicious and they fucked it up with the 'meat sandwich'
A bit random, but Jimmy Neutron’s art style doesn’t make anything in it look that appetizing. The shading is so weird.
@@pepearown4968 I agree though I think it's forgivable for the time it came out. It was impressive back in it's day.
But what about the times when it's not meant to look delicious?
I feel like Pixar is struggling to find itself again. Onward, in a way, started a new era for the company. It was the first movie they made where John Lasseter wasn't at the helm of the studio, so every film that has come out since then has been entirely new blood attached. Some of them stick to landing like Soul, Luca and Turning Red. Other's do.. *not.* And it doesn't really help that they're also still under Disney's thumb at the end of the day (I'm pretty sure at this point they were outright FORCED to make Toy Story 5)
At the end of the day though, there's still plenty of talent at the company; but they're in the midst of trying to find out what works and what doesn't. Which isn't inherently a bad thing, but doesn't really bode well when DreamWorks is back on the rise and ready to leave Pixar in the dust.
What do you mean by "they're in the midst of trying to find out what works and what doesn't"? Pixar has been around for a while now; they should already know what works this far into their existence. If you're referring to the future of their style, you should make that clear. Signature styles are fine, as long as they can evolve over time.
@@notsyzagts7967 I think they mean under the new leadership without John Lasseter
@@notsyzagts7967 John Lasseter was Pixar's creative powerhouse.
"Other's do.. not"
Which ones?
@@dylansharp8471 Well, Lightyear was definitely one of them.
A good story doesn’t need good animation but good animation can’t stand without a good story. My animation professor told me that. Pixar is facing a passing of the baton era where the old staff is retiring and placing the torch in the next. That’s why so much is all over the place. They need to grow into their own.
I mean their is a saying that a good story can be saved from bad cinematography. At the end of the day the good
storytelling matters
There was Dreamworks The Bad Guys by the way. That also has that new style of animation and it wasn't a half bad film either.
I think part of the problem is that Disney is to blame. Ever since it bought out Pixar, Pixar has gone downhill, and it's being used as a zombified cash cow for the Mouse.
The loss of John Lasseter can't have helped things.
I think it doesn’t help that both Disney and Pixar both make 3d animated films that look very similar to each other. I think Pixar has just played it safe for too long with 3d animation.
CoCo and Inside Out are among the greatest animated movies of all time though.
I know you guys are on a REEEEE DISNEY EVIL MOUSE BAD RABBLE RABBLE kick but like, Pixar is not failing just because you personally don't like one of their movies.
@Andie Allison face the wall
Pixar is starting to become like Disney itself. Especially with the recent blaming fans for Lightyear’s failure. Which is honestly something I’d never expect Pixar to do. It’s sad that Pixar is now starting to become what Disney has been. I wish these studios would be like they used too. But I don’t see any signs of that happening 😔
Makes me very happy that studios like DreamWorks are still wanting to make good stories instead of being what Disney is
I didn’t know Pixar blamed the fans
@@winifredeghrudje9427 oh yeah. The lightyear director went "last jedi" on their asses, and it's embarrassing. It only justifies DreamWorks kicking their ass that year. They actually make movies people want.
pixar never blamed fans for the failure of the film you fucking idiot, they blamed the guys whining about a 2 second kissing scene
@@rommix0 Lmao Pixar is pathetic. They're just mad we didn't fall for their garbage agenda.
@@rommix0
That's ONE director out of several. Doesn't mean it's the entirety of Pixar.
Also, maybe the story and characters they find bad I would get (even tho I personally find them nice), but it's dumb to hate it and call it "woke" due to a same sex couple that's only seen on screen for 2 minutes or so.
Seriously, that controversy was stupid as hell.
Modern pixar movies feel factory made, they just attach a random "deep" message to it and then try to build the story off of it. Most of the 2000s movies really feel like creative visions, the director had the chance to made what they truly wanted. They somehow mirrored the real world, despite their absurd premises.
If ratatouille would have been made today, it probably would be the story of a poor kid that tries to become a rich chef, instead of a rat. I really hope pixar will find its footing again
Inside out felt like the last time they really tried to execute "what if x was alive?" Legitimately. Now it's always attaching a wacky concept to a message about family.
@@lukebytes5366 current pixar movies feel like lectures of some sort
@@OK-wh5vt ) Wich ones?
@@steamboatwill3.367 basically all of the recent ones, with exception of turning red and luca. Take lightyear for example, how can you make a movie about space rangers this boring and uninteresting? They tried too hard to tell a "serious" story, that they forgot what they were making
Nah. People have been lobbing similar criticisms at Pixar films even back then. I remember "Wall-E" being dismissed as another film about a living object getting lost and finding a family in a MAD Magazine spoof.
Here are some timestamps for those who wish to have them:
Creativity + Playing it safe 2:27
The Sequel Problem 7:41
Animation and Art Direction 15:28
The problem with Pixar is that they are now one of the many sub brands Disney own like Marvel.
I’ve said before how Woody’s line at the end of Toy Story 3 “So long partner” felt like it was Woody saying that to Andy and the audience but he might as well have also said that to the old Pixar cause ever since that movie things have just been complicated for them, we went from most of the time having great to amazing movies (I think the weakest examples of that for most is Cars but I personally love the movie) from Toy Story to Toy Story 3 to then having great movies sometimes but usually having ones that are just forgotten or full on bad, Cars 2 may as well have been the biggest red flag in animated movie history, I mean I think we might have a bit of a problem when Disney and Pixar are making things that have been mostly forgotten with Lightyear and especially Strange World while Dreamworks makes a surprisingly really good movie with The Bad Guys and then suddenly Puss in Boots:the Last Wish comes out of nowhere, breaks down our doors like Papa Bear at Mama Luna’s place and says “You wanna see something cool?” (Seriously how was that movie so great)
I find it interesting how it seems like Dreamworks, Illumination and Sony may be about to dominate the animation industry this year.
I personally feel that Illumination gets more flak than it really deserves tbh. Maybe they're not the most stellar but they're hardly the incarnation of evil.
@@1Thunderfire that's precisely why they're so hated, they refuse to do anything that leads one way or the other and choose to remain in bland mediocrity.
I’ve been hoping for Disney’s downfall since 2015 if I’m being honest. I’m just too much of a hater and I don’t like their monopoly
Illumination is ass though. All their films suck.
@@1Thunderfire They make lazy, safe, bland, low-budget films and use celebrities and other manipulative tactics to get people into seats and turn a profit. They deserve all the flack.
There’s a video by I Hate Everything about Sing, it details why Illumination’s existence is bad for film-making if anything
If we needed to have an Incredibles 3, I'd love to see it animated on 2s like Puss In Boots: The Last Wish or Into The Spiderverse. The Incredibles already has an almost comic book aesthetic to it, so it would probably look pretty cool
I wish Elemental uses that style
Disney’s next movie wish is going to use a style that’s just like what spider verse went for
That sounds like a good idea
itd make sense to give the incredibles (3) that kind of animation.
@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003wasn’t that just a joke by some random guy online?
17:35 Side note about the Mario movie.
The creator himself that made Mario, for those who don't know, he's really strict onto other companies that is approved by Nintendo to make the Mario characters and if they're designs do not live up to his standards, he will want them to try again.
Yeah, that's why the characters look like the characters. For the most part. (So yeah, Illuminations couldn't cheat their way and make a very off putting designs like they usually do.)
Fantastic video.
One thing I thought I should mention about monsters university - pixar WAS completely aware about mike and sully's childhood "friendship." When writing monsters university, pixar thought about having mike and sully meet as kids, hate each other, have sully move away, then have them re-meet in college and kick off the story. But they thought that this took up too much screen time and they believed it would weaken the movie. They said that they needed to choose to either make the story "Monsters Elementary" or "Monsters University," and because they wanted it to be a more mature story, they went with Monsters University.
So yes, the movie does have its continuity error, but it is one that the creators made out of carefulness, not carelessness.
Again, great video!
A pinch of gray realism, that's what I think the newer films are missing. Y'know, The Incredibles, Wall-E, Ratatouille?
Dreamworks has finally found their flame again and is rising, now hopefully this will be the beginning of a renaissance for them as Pixar continues to fall into the pit of failure they’ve made for themselves.
I've got a video in the works about Dreamworks' surprising rise so look forward to that eventually. Originally just wanted to cover The Last Wish before every reviewer on the site suddenly clung to it for 2 entire months.
Boss Baby 3 legal drama where the boss baby is on trial for manslaughter when?
@@xord6286 Nah it's should be about boss baby needing gold dust and him barely getting any screen time
18:24
Why do you want so munch Pixar to fail? Do i have to remind that until a few years ago, DreamWorks was in the same place that Pixar is now? *Coff, coff... Spirit cgi, Boss Baby... Coff, coff*
I'm a bit concerned too that Pixar is starting to crib designs from Studio Ghibli, especially Luca and Turning Red, and now Elementals seems to have that similar feel too. If Pixar really can't define itself as a distinct studio anymore, then just merge it with Disney Animation already. I have a hard time telling the difference between the studios now anyway, the movies keep getting blander and more generic every year.
You're right; Whatever happened to the more unique human designs seen in Toy Story, Monsters Inc., The Incredibles, Ratatouille, and WALL-E?
I swear in this recent years I have a hard time distinguishing between a Disney animated film to a Pixar one. All of their designs these days look so same-y. They always have this generic character designs
I actually like the animation style of Turning Red because it was something different then what Pixar had done.
@@fatezero8662 What? Turning Red, Luca, and Soul all have distinct animation styles though.
@@X2011racer Unique? The human characters in those movies ranged in style from cartoonish with realistic textures to semi-realistic humans who, by today's standards, look kinda uncanny valley.
Plus, that style is not that unique to them anymore. Illumination has already copied that look.
Elemental turned out to be better than i expected, but definitely not the degree of pixar's hayday.
But after the failure of toy story 4 you can only go up really.
I took a trip the past to watch Coraline. It still artistically holds up, it's such a timeless art style, I think it should be hosted in art classes.
Even something like Tencent's Wish Dragon. While it was a pretty watery and predictable story. The brighter, more simplistic colors were a treat to look at.
Cartoonshi saying he doesn’t have a capacity for strong hate in his heart anymore is genuinely beautiful to hear.
It's genuinely great to hear
It makes me so happy. You can even notice it in his content. For me it was the komi video that made me realized he changed from being mauler but different to having his own district and amazing content.
Yeah I was always turned off from his content with his incessive anger but now he has improved tremendously and I now look forward to his content.
Music to my ears I would say
Agreed, I love reviewers that come from a place of love and care for the media they discuss, as opposed to just being angry at everything. I find the people who don't come from hate generally seem to have more nuanced discussions.
That 6 hour toy story 4 breakdown is still one of the most glorious, au tistic breakdowns I've ever seen towards a single movie. I can garantee you will probably get more entertainment and knowledge out of that video over Toy Story than TS4 alone.
I can't tell if your comment is meant to be positive or negative towards the video, haha. Honestly, while I do think that some of the points made there are very nitpicky, I also think that it's overall a pretty good breakdown that makes some solid points.
@@talhahhussain5603 I don't think it's so much "nitpicks" as it is that the guy really does go over every single issue, which is fantastic. I'm sure that he doesn't consider every issue to be on the same level, but it's important to mention them all. Death by a thousand cuts, you know? This is more of a mutilated corpse on fire, though.
@@talhahhussain5603 Your own opinion seems split in itself; you're not taking a firm stance either way. I can't tell if YOUR comment is meant to be positive or negative towards the video, to coin a phrase.
GamingMagic13 sucks tho
"HoW dId He LoSe HiS kEyS?"
I really hope that Toy Story 5 turns out to be a puss in boots last wish situation, but I don’t see it, it’ll probably just be another pixar movie, not bad, but not groundbreaking
It feels like Toy Story 5 was their panic button in case one of their original films flopped at the box office. I bet they were gonna wait and see if elemental would fail to announce it months later, but it was Lightyear. A movie they had millions of ads for and was their first movie since the pandemic
even if it is a great movie at the end of the day its just another unnecessary sequel
I love that Coco is the exception of recent years because I adore that movie to death and if others didn’t I’d be big sad
Inside Out
The movie came out 6yrs ago heading towards 7yrs now. How is that recent years?
This comment is 10 months old dude. It was closer to 5 years than 6 when I originally posted it. Either way I would argue that is still “recent years” when talking about animated films
@@Gattsu_the_struggler Wow, like that makes a big difference. That's like trying to claim that you or your girl had a 5yr old baby recently. You realize there are way more animated films than what Disney produces right? Even then being an animated film doesn't somehow make it more recent if that's what you're somehow trying to claim. Even if you look up the definition of recent it still doesn't support your wild claim considering that 5yrs isn't competitively close to the present.
Something that I'd really love to see Pixar do is make a feature length film in the same art style as their short, "Paper Man". That kind of 2.5d art style is amazing to look at, and I think it would really help them switch their visuals up in their feature length films.
I respect what you have to say, but I'd argue Luca is one of Pixar's best movies, precisely because it's not remarkable. It's an incredible slice-of-life movie which plays extremely straight, doesn't have an incredible amount of depth, but still manages to be really enjoyable and lovable. It's definitely one of my favorites.
It reminded me of Bolt in a way. It wasn't completely action-packed. It was a relatively simple story, but was charming in it's deliver and characters. It's nice to have movies like that from time to time, especially when so many feel like they move constantly without pausing to take a breath.
@@waffleauflauf4213 I do not like bolt personally but that's a good comparison, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way
I actually loved Luca for how laid back and human it felt.
@@tymunster That's fair, it's not for everyone, and it isn't a big favorite of mine though I do love it. It was mostly the first thing that came to mind, especially because it got a lot of flack for the same reasons Luca did and people complained it was "boring" (not implying that's why you don't like it).
agreed, though would disagree on it being one of their best. It's a good film though definitely
I liked Toy Story 4 but I've always felt it would've been better off as a spin-off.
Also Fun Fact: Monsters University had a deleted scene that explained the line in MI with a scene with Mike & Sulley as kids in Kindergarten.
I guess we should consider the deleted scene canon
Yeah, a Woody spin off it could have worked as.
Schaffrillas and Cartoonshi both uploading today is a delight
Yes
As a Cars 2 fan, I know I'm in the severe minority, but I just really enjoy that film. It breaks out of the mould of Pixar sequels by telling a complex spy thriller story, which is understandably weird to the audience but very fun!
I love cars 2, Mater just has its own shit going on and I love it.
You like what you like and that is fine. I've liked cars since I was young and considering I'm 40, that predated the Cars movie franchise...slightly lol. But now I'm running into people who like cars because they watched these movies, and Cars 2 specifically has come up a few times as the movie that made them realize "oh, there's different racing series?". Personally, it's not my favorite, but a lot of people hold it dear and I love and respect that.
I know this review was pretty indifferent towards Luca and Turning Red, but I really liked them. Luca is just a nice feelgood movie for us I loved the tie ins to old monster movies and as my wife is an astronomy minor, the whole sequence about the telescope, Luca learning about stars and the universe, and then Luca day dreaming about going to Saturn's rings & Da Vinci's flying machine, is one of my favorite sequences of all movies. Regarding Turning Red, the joy of watching my wife tell our kids stories about how she saw herself in Mei and in some of her friends was wonderful, and my kids like that movie in part because of that now, even if the whole puberty/period aspect of it flew above their heads...my wife dragging out her tamagotchi and having it now be cared for (occasionally) by my oldest also helped.
Cars 2 is MUCH better than cars 3
I mean that's all good and all but Cars 2 is far from complex
@@Sp_Oon It is complex in relation to cars 1 and 3
DreamWorks has made some stinkers bun when they commit, THEY COMMIT. Prince of Egypt is incredibly beautiful, has amazing music and has a really strong story. Megamind is a bit of an underdog but is wildly beloved and praised by its fans, a movie with a really strong story. How to Train Your Dragon, Shrek and Kung fu Panda need no introduction.
I absolutely love the animation medium and while there is space for more realistically stylized movies, like Soul for example, I dont want that to be he only standard for animation.
The point of animation isnt for us to see how much we can make it mimic reality, its about how we can break out of it and see what we can create.
Pixar: ok guys, we promise: no more sequels! Orginal movies from now on!
Disney: alright you had your 3 years of making no money, get back to making sequels so we can actually make money.
Pixar: you put them as Disney Plus exclusives. Of course they made no money!
Disney: cmon! Chop Chop!!
LightYear which was put in theaters and flopped: am I a joke to you?
@@theggamer2824 Well, yes.
@@theggamer2824 Onward, Soul, Luca, Turning Red didn't have a fair chanc3
I’m cautiously optimistic that a new animation studio is gonna pop up that truly makes Pixar and Disney step up their game.
Either that or they learn to take risks again after they lose to Pinocchio (especially when their own version wasn’t nominated for anything).
"I’m cautiously optimistic that a new animation studio is gonna pop up that truly makes Pixar and Disney step up their game."
well yeah, that's naturally gonna happen. It's not a question of if, but rather when. Whether people realize it or not american animation is in a transitional period currently, both in the mainstream and underground. The new school of animators are gaining traction, and over time those influences they have garnered will evolve and dominate into something new.
In my opinion, Pixar truly died after Up. Their newer original films aren't the same as they once were (Brave, Luca, Good Dinosaur and Onward). Not to mention that the studio now relies more on sequels of popular franchises (Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Cars and Incredibles). Sure, they still gave us some very unique animated shorts (Lava, Boa and Piper) and made some good original movies (Inside Out, Coco, Turning Red and Soul), but they didn't save Pixar much anymore.
(I feel like this studio is basically just "Disney Animation Studios 2.0" nowadays.)
I think you should swap Luca and Turning Red.
Thats called nostalgia
Finally, someone that acknowledges How Bland and Uninspired Luca was
You didn't even like Toy Story 3?
You meant Bao right?
I've always been a big fan of Luca, idk why it's not talked about much. Puss in Boots 2 does kinda demolish every other animated movie from the past few years though
I can get the realistic art style in Soul so that the real world contrasts with the afterlife, but they aren't pushing the boundaries the way animation can. 100% with you on Spider-Verse.
Remember when Dreamworks was on their way out and Pixar was on the rise? Good times.
Since when?
@@horpuscorpus8299 Uhh... since Shrek Forever After arguably.
@@kyperactivethe movies directly after shrek forever after we’re megamind and kung fu panda 2
@@creed8712 So Boss Baby?
@@kyperactive you said the how to train your dragon movies? Or Guilermos’s troll hunter series? Because we can also talk about their series
to be fair to turning red, i believe it was made for a very specific audience. i can understand how it may not resonate with someone who has never been a cringey-13-year-old-girl-starting-her-period but for me personally i found a lot of enjoyment in the film
Same! I loved it!
I agreed with you, I couldn't relate to the film but I found some enjoyment into film
The very racist xenophobic bit they cut out of the film for good reason is what turned me off. If they attempted to added that... well, I had no hope for the rest of it
@@baronvonjo1929what was the racist bit?
@@baronvonjo1929 what racist xenophobic bit?
At least other companies are bringing competition on the table so maybe Pixar will shape up
Pixar was very important because it showed how unique and high quality animation could be. But most studios have their ups and downs, and inevitably fall, and become complacent but that’s where other studios come in and give them competition. I think this is really healthy, and hopefully new animation studios will make Pixar have to up their game. But who knows if that will happen?
I am not a Disney hater but you might be right about it making Pixar stronger
I was lucky to go to Annecy Animation Festival last year. The Spiderverse sequel looks gorgeous and the antagonist is lovable but terrifying. The segments they showed us at the showcase looked like the sequel immediately picked up where we left off. It looks more bold and heartfelt and I’m super excited to watch the finished product!
I am glad you pointed out that Pixar has to compete with competitors, but I also think you should bring up that Pixar has to compete with indie studios/films such as MFKZ. I am also disappoint there is no mention of Cartoon Saloon and Laika. Still, great video!
I still think that lightyear should have had a post credit scene where it shows the movies credits on a living room tv with a kid in a red cowboy hat watching them (This being andy)
And it would have implied that the lightyear movie is how andy found out about the buzz lightyear toy
Instead, it's a sequel hook that suggests Zurg's return.
It says that in the beginning though. It says "this is that movie" about Andy watching a movie about buzz. Too bad it sucked as far as movies go.
I would have entirely forgiven the film if the after credits scene was adult andy being mad at how they remade the original animated movie/show into a sci-fi flick that's almost completely disconnected from the source material
I wish Pixar wasn't owned by Disney and instead owned by a company like Annapurna or A24, who are just now getting into animation themselves. With A24 releasing Hazbin Hotel, and Annapurna releasing the resurrected Nimona (Which Disney killed along with Blue Sky)g with Blue Sky), I glad there's now mini-major/independent outlets for animation.
This is kinda why I just try to get myself into animated films from smaller companies.
At times, even animation of a low budget tend to be more creative with their ideas in how they want to tell a story.
I personally hate how clean the new artstyle is as of late, it's highly distracting to me when all the human characters have perfect ironed out faces that look like they're made of magical clay.
I’ll be honest. I definitely liked Finding Dory a lot when first seeing it. I saw the original Finding Nemo quite a bit before then, so I guess I was quite glad to see how they expanded the universe a little bit.
And, while the rescue plot may be somewhat similar to the original FN, Dory has her own struggles with short term memory that make the whole thing feel a lot more meaningful and worthwhile than you described.
The only thing I really didn’t like from the movie was Becky. She just seemed like a more obnoxious , unfunny replacement of the seagulls from the original, which thankfully did make a small appearance. It just felt like she was there at the expense of Marlin’s sanity.
But, then again, I haven’t seen it in a while. Maybe I just liked it more than I should because marine life interests me a lot.
HOLY MOLY THIS WAS A GREAT VIDEO! But in all seriousness, I actually loved how you ACTUALLY criticized Pixar instead of just saying "guYs, pixAr fElL oF, aNd tHeir curRent moVies suCk.” Also I love how you highlight the issue with them at the moment: their animation department. This has been on my mind after I watched Puss in Boots, but, Pixar needs to up their game. And I really hope they can find unique styles and great art directions in the future! Because if this doesn’t happy anytime soon, they are going to fall off, and lose to the competition. And also, more and more people are not gonna be excited for their upcoming movies anymore. Instead they are gonna look forward to other studios like Sony and Dreamworks! Anyways that’s my comment, have an epic day!
I hate when video essayists pad the intro out with a needlessly long history, props right off the bat for just diving right in
Toy Story 1 to 3: amazing and memorable.
Toy Story 4 to 5: Souless cash grabs.
Trolls 1: Soulless cash grab.
Trolls 2: Soulless cash grab but even sh*ttier.
@@joaquinm9148despicable me: good
Everything else illumination makes: money money money
i want to go and start a protest infront of Pixar to straight up cancel Toy Story 5
there was a 5?
@@micah4628 Not yet, but there _will_ be in the near future.
One other thing to note too with Pixar is their decline in emotionally impactful music. A good example of Pixar music in its prime was in monster inc when the main theme plays as sully says goodbye to boo, making it all the more bittersweet. Like I was balling my eyes at the part and a great factor in this was the music. However when I think of more recent movies, I couldn’t even tell you the “main theme” for any of them. So not only has the animation for Pixar films become less and less distinct, so has their overall sound.
At this point, I feel like Pixar is being held at gunpoint by Disney for pumping out more sequels. There is no way that Pixar is willingly climb this especially since they said TY4 was supposed to be the last one
I think the CEO of Pixar also said at one point, something along the lines of “We have to keep making sequels to be financially successful”.
Which really just makes things look worse.
@Turbulation1What's so bad about keeping the lights on? Clearly they need easy wins/extra money in case their actual new, and original movie flops.
Honestly, I think Pixar is capable of doing unique and appealing styles (if you've seen their shorts you'll know) but I think Disney is really holding them back from doing something entirely different.
can pixar become their own indepedant studio?
@@janfiloute_the_noob4045 Maybe back in the early 2000s, but disney bought them out. So I don't think that's ever going to happen. Lol
@@omomori9214 Marvel and Pixar became bland because of Disney, they don't have their identity anymore.
Pixar did do unique art style with Turning Red where they added Anime elements to the animation and everyone made fun of it and told Pixar "Don't fix what aren't broke" and now everyone is saying Pixar is playing safe with their animation and should try new style like Dream Works did with Puss in Boots The Last Wish.
@@DAVID-ANDERSON people made fun of it because those anime elements don't work at all in that art style or really CGI all that well
True, I love Pixar and I like their movies, especially films like Luca, Coco, and Turning Red, but I just want them to do better and they need to take notes from other animation studios.
Shame Pixar changed to become a former shell of what they once were. And giving Toy Story another sequel crosses the line by a mile. They impacted animation, but something is clearly wrong with their recent movies despite being solid nevertheless. Will there ever be a next Incredibles that dissects the very genre it's in? Or will there be a new groundbreaking Pixar film with Spiderverse inspired animation and an interesting plot? Who the hell knows...
It is harder to find new ground to tell stories on. Audience members were mad that Lightyear did not rip off storyline from The Empire Strikes Back the way that Toy Story 2 did.
Disney have definitely been meddling with Pixar recently and making them play it safe and make a ton of sequels, it's like they forgot that Pixar became what it is from their first decade making incredible original films
I think the reason some scenes in Pixar movies look like live action is because of a ripple affect from other movies and the engines developed for them
The good dinosaur really experimented with the environment of trees and grass
Moana showed what realistic animated water looks like
Even tangled had a hair engine to simulate realism
I think Pixar just needs to find the balance between cartoony and realistic because the cartoon characters clash with the realistic backgrounds sometimes
It's kinda of a vicious cycle that Pixar used to be seen as the breakthrough animation needed thanks to Toy Story, but now is kinda relying on nostalgia and playing it safe to stay culturally relevant, while other studios are the ones currently pushing the boundaries.
I like how this video has a lot of actual criticism instead of only pointing out the bad things, it really improves the quality of your video and ideas
This put exactly how I’ve been feeling about Pixar for the past couple years into words so perfectly, it’s actually kinda scary. Great video!
I think that 2D animation is set for a comeback, in a world full of samey 3D films it would honestly feel new
Samey?
Pixar movies have a sort of hold on realism and details, while other companies to me don’t focus only on those facts but create a more cartoonish atmosphere leading audiences to like the fresh take after decades on the usual realistic designs.
Finally, somebody making a good review of media that isn't just saying 'new bad old good'
Couldn’t agree more
Exactly.
Who makes reviews like that?
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 pokemon critics would like to have a word.
@@lukebytes5366 I haven't seen a single video that doesn't explain well why that is. Gamefreak are clearly rushing games out and it's hurting the quality.
As someone who's watched you since I think the star videos? You've matured a lot man. You've become more level, earnest, and well spoken. I'm proud of you man.
My biggest problem with modern Pixar (specifically since Incredibles II) is the lack of creativity. The writers for that movie had fourteen years to come up with a story just as good as the original, and instead we got Evelynn Devor. We got dumb selfish Bob. We got shouting useless Dash. WE GOT DEUS EX JACK-JACK. And don't even get me started on Toy Story 4. You may say it's fine, but I think it's an atrocity and Gaming Magic 13 has every right to shred it for six hours.
Whether it's Disney putting too much pressure on Pixar or hiring good creative writers is harder than obsidian blocks in Minecraft, it doesn't matter. Pixar is not as good as it once was and if they don't change then they're going to be drowned out by other studios who have stepped up their game.
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@@ibusalt2056 then.....don't
@@ratedr7845 not reading this reply either 💯
At the end of The _Incredibles,_ the Underminer declares war on all of humanity. At the beginning of _The Incredibles II,_ the Underminer is merely robbing a bank. They retconned the first film to get rid of a more interesting idea than the plot and villain they ended up going with.
I like Incredibles 2 and toy story 4
Between Arcane, Spiderverse, Mitchels VS Mechines, and Puss & Boots Last Wish the future of animation looks to more anime inspired! The emphasis on energy and sharp action lines that all those movies and shows have are ripped right out of the anime and manga playbook. I also feel given the acceptance of anime from never generations of audiences and creator it's only gonna grow!