I always liked that Kat wasn't 'cold and uninterested' towards dating not because that trope of not wanting to be a popular girl or some school power struggle like in most other teen movies; its because something traumatic happened to her. So she put up walls and with those walls protected her sister from the same fate.
I think it also shows that deep down, her father's concerns mean something to her. He takes it to a silly level because it's a comedy, but he has a point that most kids aren't prepared for the consequences if BC/condoms fail. That, combined with Joey 🤢, led her to the conclusion that it's not worth the risk. (Don't get me wrong, I'm all for teens having access to whatever sexual health resources they need. But there are so many reasons why having sex that can lead to pregnancy is just not worth it for underage girls.)
Yeah and while it feels a little cliche or predictable, I know the other trope you bring up is the "asexual" trope (I put asexual in quotes because most asexual people aren't like that, but it's how they are portrayed in the media) of "I don't want to focus on dating. I want to focus on my grades/science/more important things" is also cliche but worse because it's misinformation. At least with someone withholding from dating because of a bad initial relationship is something realistic.
i really like this movie but it always annoys me that Bianca is superficial for liking the hot guy but Cameron's crush on bianca is "well intentioned" even though he admits he doesn't know anything about her either.
i didn't bring this up in the video, but you're right! Cameron is just as shallow as Bianca. his crush is based solely on looks. that scene in the car is important for him too because he realizes she isn't perfect & no longer holds her on a pedestal. he only gets the girl once his perception of her becomes realistic
I just find it mind-boggling and shocking that someone read The Taming of the Shrew and thought to themselves: "Yes, that would make the perfect romance movie. Let's turn the gaslighting, abusive, and misogynistic Petruchio into a romantic hero."
It's almost like you can look at important works of fiction and think "this is a very influential piece of writing, it would be interesting to reimagine it with a different setting and perspective" instead of simply going "bad character is bad, nothing else can come out of it".
there was a trend tho; cindrella, dangerous liasons etc were also adapted in highschool context in 90's and early 2000's alongside literal live actions of classical literature. The trend was so wide, there are even anime filmed with this concept
If I had a nickel for every time that Heath Ledger had to publicly embarrass himself for the love of a woman in a movie, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
In a Rolling Stone interview, Heath implied he thought this movie was trash but it was what the American audience liked so when he was starting he had to take these kind of roles to move up in his career. He compared romcoms to cocacola which is unhealthy and tastes like crap but everyone gobbles loves it. He sounded relieved when he got his role in Four Feathers which was more like the type of projects he would like to work in.
@@abook2141 Probably A Knight's Tale, although I can't remember what he did to embarrass himself. Will have to rewatch it. For research purposes. I was pretty young when he died, but I still haven't gotten over his death, he was really charming.
@Thersyl in order to prove his love, his love interest told him to lose at jousting. (Because winning wouldn't actually be "for her" but for his own ego.) I watched that movie a few times as a kid.
I cringe as well at those 'public displays of affection' in movies, and usually really hate it, especially between people who don't know each other well. However, this one never really did secondhand embarrass me, and I think it's because, similar to a comment I saw on a different video, he's not really declaring his love, he's making a public fool of himself. He's showing to her he doesn't mind being seen as silly to let her know he likes her, and is willing to put the work in for that. It shows in the scene, most of these scenes are very serious and 'romantic', and in this movie he's clearly aware it's kind of silly what he's doing. But that's just my take, I totally understand when something like that makes you cringe.
Yeah I also saw it like this. It's not supposed to be romantic but funny, and it was an apology more than a romantic scene. Also, he did something Kat would like that is showing how he doesn't care how other people are seeing him.
Yep, that's exactly what Cameron tells him to do, "sacrifice yourself on the altar of dignity and even the score". Kat put herself out there and got humiliated, and Patrick had to do the same.
omg yeah, like i love it here bc it's the literal point, to prove he can do the cringiest think and won't be embarrassed as long as she can see how much he wants her attention and how far he's willing to do
Those big shows in affection in movies are extremely cringe because that shit doesn't work in real life. If you watch one of those "public proposals" youtube compilations, they often end with the woman walking away in embarassment without giving an answer or they awkwardly tell the guy "can we talk about this in private for a minute?"
Actually, the reason why people hate it, is because usually is when 2 people don't know each other or they are just friends and the guy does not want to be rejected so ask the girl out in public, but what Patrick did was different, he ask her to go out with him normally but she said no, so he decided to just sing a song to her, he did not ask her anything, did not put her in a position to say yes in front of everyone, he just sing to her like whatever, and he actually got detention.
Thanks for the video, this is one of my favourite teen flicks of all time. The romantic in me likes to think that Kat and Patrick managed to make their relationship work, since they both saw each other as their real selves, and not the "scary" personas that others did.
i like to think so. i like how the movie ends with them both being honest with each other too. i would hope that marks the start of a healthy relationship 🤍
Truly one of the best teen romantic comedies. RIP Heath Ledger. His acting was so natural, charming, and charismatic. The cast overall was really great!
am i the only one who wasnt embarrassed about patrick singing in public? 😭 i think it was sweet, cute, and funny. it was already established that patrick as character is known as a "bad" boy and there have been different stories about his craziness around the school. so the scene with him singing in public and getting into trouble felt natural to me, esp with his character. like he doesnt mind doing something crazy from time to time
yeah! and didn't he decide to do something that embarrassing to make Kat feel better about being embarrassed when he didn't kiss her? I thought it was meant to be embarrassing for him haha which made it easier to watch
I love this analysis! One thing I always thought is that Bianca is actually very smart. Both Stratford sisters are actually whip smart but I think Bianca chose to hide that part of her due to popularity (the trope that you're too cool for school/trying hard is for nerds etc.) It's the second library scene with Cameron when she gets mad he hasn't asked her out. Bianca knows more French (not hard to do compared to Cameron ha) but spits it out like it's nothing. Needing a tutor might not actually be necessary or maybe her father feels her grades aren't high enough because she's too focused on popularity and not school - we'll never know. But for as vapid as she comes off, I always assumed Bianca is just as smart as her sister.
I was looking for this comment!!! You're absolutely right ❤!! I also assume, that Bianca is actually very very smart, I often identify me with her actually, I'm very feminine and like to be like that, but I'm also not dumb)))😂 and I like the way Cameron treated Bianca 😌 and how in the end they both grew up and saw each other as they were))
That part where she tells Joey the white shirt makes him look more pensive and the look of disgust she gives him when he replies “damn,I was going for thoughtful” Loooool
@@artatmidnight Honestly after watching that dreadful scene in Perks of being a wallflower theres nothing that gives me second hand emberassment quite the same
But that was the purpose of it. It wasn't actually the singing that was the romantic part. Noone knows it's for Kat and Kat just enjoys that Patrick makes a fool of himself.
Damn kat has a lot of interests and talents! Reading, soccer, drawing, writing, music, she can play guitar like what can’t this girl do?? Lol I also have always thought she is one of the most beautiful characters in teen rom coms ever. Like every time she’s on screen I am in awe😅
Thank you, I really enjoyed this video! I love Kat and Patrick.💖 One of my favourite lines is when Patrick, Cameron and the other dude are talking and Patrick says something like "you think I'm not a pretty guy?" kind of menacingly, I find it so funny 😭
Whhaaattt??? Heath singing in the bleachers is hilarious! I get the worst second hand embarrassment when she cries reading her poem at the end. I know that's the one of the most critical points but I just cannnooott. Have to mute skip or look away from the screen😭😂
This is a bit off-topic but I really like how Bianca still got to be just as feminine towards the end of the movie. No hate towards masculine women (all women are cool just the way they are) but I really appreciate how the movie doesn't demonize her hyper-fem style like a lot of other teen shows do. I think it'd be really cool if more teen movies embraced people being themselves- whether or not the character's style/outward expression matches gender stereotypes.
26:25 - I went back and watched to check, and this brings even more meaning to the apology-gift! When Patrick sees Kat playing a guitar in the music store, it is a Squire. But when he gifts her a guitar, he buys her a Fender Strat in the same color! Man really went all out!
that regina drawing is SO GOOD so beautiful !! i know that lighting must've been SUCH a fun challenge, and so rewarding ! cause it turned out so perfect and vibrant‼️‼️‼️
Bianca truly deserved someone better than mr Nice Guy, hes as selfish and shallow as she used to be. He likes her because she's pretty and popular, he does a ton a thing to date her, and then threw them in her face when he realised she wasnt really interest, but dude, who forced you? He PAYS someone to date a girl??? How is he a good guy? hat was his character develepment, really?
He's a shallow, unlikable Mr. Nice Guy and honestly i dont like him either but he did have a point back then. Bianca knew he was into her and knew he was trying hard to get with her (1. she didn't reject Cameron and instead hinted that the only reason she wouldn't go out with him was because of her sister and 2. even helped with the plan at one point) but never intended to date him, since the beggining. He didn't call her out in the car scene because he thought she was ungrateful for not liking him back despite everything he'd done, but because she really was selfish. She just needed to say she wasn't interested.
I have always absolutely loved this film. I think I was 14 or 15 when my friend and I rented it from Blockbuster (dating myself with that reference). We were so in love with it that we watched it 6 times in 3 days. Two 14 year old, heterosexual boys. Its so great to put this movie on every so often and instead of seeing it get dated with time and with newer perspectives, it just gets better or more beloved. However, I can't believe I never noticed Kat wore those pearls to prom, a symbol of her learning from Bianca like Bianca learned from her. Thanks for pointing that out.
LMAO i understand the singing scene w patrick is so embarassing but it's so cute 😭 he did it well and i tear up every time i see the scene. rip heath 🕊
i feel like kat's predictable contradictions (doing the exact opposite, but in that way observing the rules) is a great way of showing her juvinality as well. I loved this little essay by the way
I haven’t seen the full movie, but I love how Kat’s development doesn’t mean she changes who she is. She has her same interests and values, and her strong attitude, but now has more perspective about the people around her and adjusts her beliefs with what’s real, not what she thinks
This movie is great. Not only it tackles the women's side but the men's side too, as Cameron and Patrick are opposites and both learn what the other lacks. Cameron learns to be more confident and self assertive while Patrick learns to be more vulnerable and emotional, but this happens in a subtle manner that perhaps a lot of people don't notice, especially since the focus are Bianca and Kat. That's why I like this movie as it gives both perspectives, plus it's a fun and well made film. By the way... Heat analysis! Cheers
Loved this analysis! I never noticed the parallels with Sense and Sensibility, but you're absolutely right. One sister needed to learn to be more discerning, and the other to be more open - but packaged in it's own way with protectiveness and overprotectiveness being the theme. Fantastic essay! As I watched the clips I thought, I'm going to search for some 10 Things fashion videos after this, and then you provided! TYSM! ✨🌙✨
Underlying Kat's personality is a fear of rejection informed by her experiences. It's not talked about much but i think their mum leaving had a huge affect on the girls and their family dynamic because Kat was coming of age and thrust into these terrible experiences with boys while having no guidance and no adults or older people in her life who could understand. With her mum rejecting her, then Joey, it makes sense that she's so hurt when Patrick doesn't kiss her after the party.
23:42 i loved this because this time shes doing something truly on HER own terms. shes not doing it to please others but shes also not doing it to just to oppose society. shes doing it for her sister. its one of my favorite parts of the whole movie
22:04 Omg I love this scene. I get second hand embarrassment so easily with so many things but for some reason that scene is so nice to me. I love how the band comes in and helps him out lol
This was my favorite movie when I was a little kid growing up and is still one of my all time favorites yet I NEVER noticed Kat was wearing the pearls at the end when they go to prom!!!! I’ve seen this movie hundreds of times too!
This video is so well done!!! 👏omg I didn’t even realize most of these points 😳 And i agree with you, the serenade has severe second hand embarrassment for me as well 😭
This used to be one of my favorite movies. When she let the arrow go and hit her teacher in the background, I used to die laughing. I want to go watch one of the original version of the taming of the shrew now. Kat got mad that he didn’t kiss her like she didn’t just throw up before they got in the car 😂
13:41 something that always frustrated me with her English teacher though is that he never brings up classism or racism to encourage other students, especially the black students, to also fight against discrimination that they face or to look into the lack of racial diversity in their syllabus. He only ever uses it as a "gotcha" moment to shut Kat up as a girl speaking out about misogyny.
I´ve seen this movie about a hundred times and there were still so many things that I´d never even thought about, so thank you for making this video and making this great analysis of this great movie
God I love this movie so much! It's one of my favorite movies along with: Sky High, The Book of Life, Scream (1996), Guardians of the Galaxy 3, The Maze Runner, Divergent, Pride and Prejudice (the 2000s one), and coincidentally enough... The Dark Knight. I find it super interesting that you can't watch the scene where Patrick sings to Kat bc I am probably the person who gets the worst second hand embarrassment ever, but I live that scene!
i love the drawing of regina UGH the colours are GREAT. I do wanna mention tho as an artist myself too, the skinny lil wrist takes me out of the drawing a lil bit, esp compared with the now comparatively large hand. Anyways, great vid!
I got recommended this video essay and I absolutely loved it! This has been my all time favorite romcom since I saw it in high school and I love the appreciation. 💖
I never thought the singing scene was embarrassing. Patrick had a good singing voice, and he really doesn't care what most people think about him anyway. The saddest scenes in the film (in no particular order) are: Kat's poem recital. Bianca on the tire swing. Cameron when Bianca walks right past him with Joey. Kat confronting Patrick outside of the prom.
8:58, An unfortunate aspect of them just speeding past this bit of drama is how much Cameron mainly likes Bianca because she's attractive until finally opens up to her (and to himself, you could say) her negative qualities, and they then end up together. Had the argument been more of a back and forth, her calling out his shallowness being just like hers despite him not being a truly terrible person like Joey, and him having to acknowledge he did ignore those bad qualities she has mainly because he got to spend time with someone he found attractive (a relatable motive, but not a justifiable one for ignoring the red flags she wasn't interested in him or a good person to be in a relationship with) and the argument could have ended with him agreeing they should just stay away from each other because of how tainted their relationship. But if the movie were to end on a romantic note, they could meet up and propose a fresh start and endeavor to actually learn something personal about the other, build a relationship based on mutual understanding than one of base attraction. 13:30, On the other hand, props to the movie for calling out the disparity between social groups in regards to countercultural movements, but more importantly, that the character representing liberation from societal norms can still be wrong about things and has room to grow, which is often not the case in mainstream media products involving social justice themes, in which the same kinds of characters can be treated as persistently flawless and correct, even when they are actually not, and in the process lack nuance or anything else to make them memorable besides them being lesser versions of actually well-written characters with social justice themes. Basically, it's a great idea to explore, that being social justice doesn't automatically make someone a good or wise person, but the courage and humility to acknowledge negative experiences along with the possibility for good ones is a step towards being a good person.
Odd how I hust randomly was looking for the song 'I love you baby', the scene, wanted to send it to my sweetheart, and this is posted no less than 14 hours ago....so of course I gotta watch this video....This movie was one of the few I kept watching over and over back in the day.
I feel you so much about the singing scene! I think it's so embarrassing because it SHOULD be embarrasing, given how they establish the world and characters. It's entirely diegetic while no one else is singing or sings in the movie. It also feels a bit too over the top and unrealistic for the characters, given how they previously express embarassment or regret towards other public acts. The characters are socially aware enough to know what the status quo is (whether they go with it or not), so the fact everyone in the scene has a positive reaction to the singing feels too far out of the expected range of behaviours of most present, especially Kat. Whereas with HSM, there are multiple characters who sing both diegetically and non-diegetically and it's frequently reinforced as expected, natural and accepted.
Something that has always bugged me about the cringy singing scene is that this stupid public display of “affection” seems like the opposite to what Kat would find endearing/romantic. It feels like something that someone like Bianca would find romantic, but Kat seems like she would be able to see through the performativity and shallowness of the act. They don’t really know each other well at that point either so it comes across as a bit like he’s mocking her imo, or maybe I’m projecting because that’s what I would think if I guy I barely knew asked me to go out with him in this way. In any case it just seems like there’s such a disconnect between who Kat is and her finding this attractive or charming.
A big part of it is that he was meant to embarrass himself to even the playing field. So it wasn’t necessarily for pure romance, but to even the scales after she put herself out there and he rejected her. He had to do something big to show he was willing to embarrass himself for her.
That's bc that's not what it's supposed to be. If you watch the scene, you'll notice that Patrick doesn't take it seriously - it's not a public, ultraromantic gesture but a guy making a fool of himself to prove to a girl he cares more about her than what people think or how they see him (a quality that Kat explicitly admires). No one even knows he's singing to Kat!
When i saw this come into my feed i was so excited! I took my boyfriend to see this movie and he said he didn’t really get it, so now i have something more concise than my ramblings to help him!😅 This was absolutely incredible💕
I agree with you - this movie is very underrated and not just a love story. I think that stands for a lot of Shakespeare's works too though, in the sense that the love stories aren't just love stories. Romeo & Juliet is really a story about tradition, legacy, and rivalries more so than it is about love. In my opinion at least. I also watched this movie for years not realizing that Cameron was played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt lol. Today wasn't the day of realization, but I'm 27 and it was only a few years ago, so...
There was a commenter that talked about why they didn’t find the bleacher scene cringe and I agree. I actually had more embarrassment when she cried in class 😅 I think vulnerability should only be shared w/those that genuinely care for you. So crying in front of essentially strangers makes me veeeeeery uncomfy 💀 just me airing out my issues w/displays of “negative” emotion in public, BUT great analysis vid! Makes me wanna watch the movie again even tho Mr. Nice Guy’s actions and Patrick’s lacking repentance heavily bothers me.
true, it makes a lot more sense knowing that she wasn’t originally supposed to cry, but the crew was so moved by the first take that they decided to keep it
this truly is one of my favourite movies, I love the way you talk about it, you gave me a new perspective on it that I only picked on subconsciously. thank you!
The reason this is one of my favourite movies is not the romance but the relationship between the two sisters. As someone who has an older sister, the writing and script is so close to how real sisters would act. It feels so real.
only watched this film a week ago and was surprised by how much I liked the jokes and dialogue. they are the best part of it and make up for certain weak spots of the plot
I love this film, even though the scene where Kat reads her poem and cries breaks my heart for her every single time I watch it. 😅 This was an awesome and very insightful piece of work. I really enjoyed your in depth analysis of Kat and Bianca and I'm really glad to have found your channel. 🙂
I love this movie so much. Rom Coms were a big part of my life growing up and 10 Things always held a special place in my heart. It is one of the those movies I can watch a thousand times without getting tired of it. (And Patrick is one of the best male leads of all times, in my opinion.)
I love the way you break down each character and analyze. Can you do a video analyzing the series Dawson's Creek it had so many different twists and turns and I would love to see how you interpret it.
Kat’s assignment at the end hit me super hard too. Mid 30s Aussie man here. Trying not to like a woman at work who reminds me of Kat l, damn it I’m messed up
There was more I got from Bianca my last rewatch, about two hours ago, and hearing more from you makes so much sense and I understand her more. I never really understood why Bianca wants to go to Prom cause even though she kissed Cameron she still just kinda seemed done with boys in a way but it makes more sense now with just having more autonomy and being able to make her own decisions in the little ways she can. Love this movie and the humor is on point. On a side note I also sometimes get second hand embarrassment in shows but only from drunk kid that doesn’t drink and admits embarrassing stuff, like in Everything Sucks or S3 or 2 of Sex Education. I can’t watch them and always have to fast forward. I also have no idea why and I empathize with you. Doesn’t make sense. Great video!!
I love it because kat is like me seeing right through others to protect others from experiencing the same thing. Even though her little sister obviously thinks she's just being a negative nancy.
I have only just discovered your cannel today and i've been bingeing some of your videos and you are so damn articulate, and it's like hearing my opinions of movies put into well thought out and articulate videos and it's really satisfying. This movie in particular is one of my favourites, and you literally helped my to realise why. I always felt I most related with Kat, but i now realise I also very much relate to Bianca, as a child of a very strict and protective parent. I've never thought too deeply about this movie, as it's just one of those movies I love to watch/listen to when I want to switch off, but you've really opened my eyes to what I truly love about this movie, which makes me really sad, and really grateful, thank you
I know this comment is late, but... I really like how clear and plainly spoken you present this... This movie is feminist in how both learn to have agency over their lives And also learning to find relationships that respect that... after all isn't that we all want?
you are so talented. this was a great video, so insightful and it is always so interesting looking deeper into the movies i love!!! keep up the fantastic work i look forward to seeing more of your content in the future :)))
Wow. This is one of my top ten favourite movies…I have seen it over thirty times…and never noticed that Kat wears the pearls to the prom! How did I miss that?!?
A-MAZING video! Damn I didn’t realize this movie went this deep lol, your perspectives are always great and your videos are always so well produced, *and* you are well versed in costumes too lol, always worthwhile keeping up with your channel
My all time favourite movie!!!!!! i thought i was the only one who hated that same scene(although dislike is a better word) but i think the scene where they were on the small boat is my FAVE
I hope the blurring isn’t too distracting! What’s your favourite line from this movie? I’m a big fan of “she kissed me.” “Where?😏” “in the car 💕”
@zabanks yes 😭
Anytime the English teacher sasses/schooles his class about their privilege.
"Well maybe you're not afraid of me, but I'm sure you've thought of me naked.. " ;)
"Am I that transparent? I want you, I need you, oh baby, oh baby."
@@artatmidnight would you ever do a video on the tv adaptation of 10 things I hate about you 🤔
“What is it, a**hole day”😂
I always liked that Kat wasn't 'cold and uninterested' towards dating not because that trope of not wanting to be a popular girl or some school power struggle like in most other teen movies; its because something traumatic happened to her. So she put up walls and with those walls protected her sister from the same fate.
I think it also shows that deep down, her father's concerns mean something to her. He takes it to a silly level because it's a comedy, but he has a point that most kids aren't prepared for the consequences if BC/condoms fail. That, combined with Joey 🤢, led her to the conclusion that it's not worth the risk.
(Don't get me wrong, I'm all for teens having access to whatever sexual health resources they need. But there are so many reasons why having sex that can lead to pregnancy is just not worth it for underage girls.)
Yeah and while it feels a little cliche or predictable, I know the other trope you bring up is the "asexual" trope (I put asexual in quotes because most asexual people aren't like that, but it's how they are portrayed in the media) of "I don't want to focus on dating. I want to focus on my grades/science/more important things" is also cliche but worse because it's misinformation. At least with someone withholding from dating because of a bad initial relationship is something realistic.
@@maddiemcnugget1076 I hate the "I can fix her" asexual trope like they aren't broken and don't need to fall in-love to be happy
i really like this movie but it always annoys me that Bianca is superficial for liking the hot guy but Cameron's crush on bianca is "well intentioned" even though he admits he doesn't know anything about her either.
i didn't bring this up in the video, but you're right! Cameron is just as shallow as Bianca. his crush is based solely on looks. that scene in the car is important for him too because he realizes she isn't perfect & no longer holds her on a pedestal. he only gets the girl once his perception of her becomes realistic
@@artatmidnight thats true.
Not enough people talk about this!! It’s only seen as “well intentioned” because he’s the ‘nice guy’
Excellent point! Female shallowness is punished, but male shallowness is rewarded.
@@FabalociousDee either way they're both shallow so..
I just find it mind-boggling and shocking that someone read The Taming of the Shrew and thought to themselves: "Yes, that would make the perfect romance movie. Let's turn the gaslighting, abusive, and misogynistic Petruchio into a romantic hero."
i'm just glad they updated it so Patrick is far from the actual Petruchio and Kat is the actual hero 😭
I meannn it slaps
And yet they still ate the whole thing up, no crumbs left.
It's almost like you can look at important works of fiction and think "this is a very influential piece of writing, it would be interesting to reimagine it with a different setting and perspective" instead of simply going "bad character is bad, nothing else can come out of it".
there was a trend tho; cindrella, dangerous liasons etc were also adapted in highschool context in 90's and early 2000's alongside literal live actions of classical literature. The trend was so wide, there are even anime filmed with this concept
If I had a nickel for every time that Heath Ledger had to publicly embarrass himself for the love of a woman in a movie, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
In a Rolling Stone interview, Heath implied he thought this movie was trash but it was what the American audience liked so when he was starting he had to take these kind of roles to move up in his career. He compared romcoms to cocacola which is unhealthy and tastes like crap but everyone gobbles loves it. He sounded relieved when he got his role in Four Feathers which was more like the type of projects he would like to work in.
whats the other one? batmam? or b rokeback
@@abook2141 Probably A Knight's Tale, although I can't remember what he did to embarrass himself. Will have to rewatch it. For research purposes. I was pretty young when he died, but I still haven't gotten over his death, he was really charming.
@Thersyl in order to prove his love, his love interest told him to lose at jousting. (Because winning wouldn't actually be "for her" but for his own ego.)
I watched that movie a few times as a kid.
@@AverageWagietbf from what I heard he did love a knights tale, but then again it strays quite far from a rom com
I cringe as well at those 'public displays of affection' in movies, and usually really hate it, especially between people who don't know each other well. However, this one never really did secondhand embarrass me, and I think it's because, similar to a comment I saw on a different video, he's not really declaring his love, he's making a public fool of himself. He's showing to her he doesn't mind being seen as silly to let her know he likes her, and is willing to put the work in for that.
It shows in the scene, most of these scenes are very serious and 'romantic', and in this movie he's clearly aware it's kind of silly what he's doing.
But that's just my take, I totally understand when something like that makes you cringe.
Yeah I also saw it like this. It's not supposed to be romantic but funny, and it was an apology more than a romantic scene. Also, he did something Kat would like that is showing how he doesn't care how other people are seeing him.
Yep, that's exactly what Cameron tells him to do, "sacrifice yourself on the altar of dignity and even the score". Kat put herself out there and got humiliated, and Patrick had to do the same.
omg yeah, like i love it here bc it's the literal point, to prove he can do the cringiest think and won't be embarrassed as long as she can see how much he wants her attention and how far he's willing to do
Those big shows in affection in movies are extremely cringe because that shit doesn't work in real life. If you watch one of those "public proposals" youtube compilations, they often end with the woman walking away in embarassment without giving an answer or they awkwardly tell the guy "can we talk about this in private for a minute?"
Actually, the reason why people hate it, is because usually is when 2 people don't know each other or they are just friends and the guy does not want to be rejected so ask the girl out in public, but what Patrick did was different, he ask her to go out with him normally but she said no, so he decided to just sing a song to her, he did not ask her anything, did not put her in a position to say yes in front of everyone, he just sing to her like whatever, and he actually got detention.
Thanks for the video, this is one of my favourite teen flicks of all time. The romantic in me likes to think that Kat and Patrick managed to make their relationship work, since they both saw each other as their real selves, and not the "scary" personas that others did.
i like to think so. i like how the movie ends with them both being honest with each other too. i would hope that marks the start of a healthy relationship 🤍
@trinaq i feel like i see you in every comment section lmao
Same😂@@lilymarie1765
Truly one of the best teen romantic comedies. RIP Heath Ledger. His acting was so natural, charming, and charismatic. The cast overall was really great!
And his smile WOW
am i the only one who wasnt embarrassed about patrick singing in public? 😭 i think it was sweet, cute, and funny. it was already established that patrick as character is known as a "bad" boy and there have been different stories about his craziness around the school. so the scene with him singing in public and getting into trouble felt natural to me, esp with his character. like he doesnt mind doing something crazy from time to time
It is supposed to be funny, not romantic! If you had to take that scene as romantic, well, that's when it becomes a secondhand embarrassment
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yeah! and didn't he decide to do something that embarrassing to make Kat feel better about being embarrassed when he didn't kiss her? I thought it was meant to be embarrassing for him haha which made it easier to watch
I love this analysis! One thing I always thought is that Bianca is actually very smart. Both Stratford sisters are actually whip smart but I think Bianca chose to hide that part of her due to popularity (the trope that you're too cool for school/trying hard is for nerds etc.) It's the second library scene with Cameron when she gets mad he hasn't asked her out. Bianca knows more French (not hard to do compared to Cameron ha) but spits it out like it's nothing. Needing a tutor might not actually be necessary or maybe her father feels her grades aren't high enough because she's too focused on popularity and not school - we'll never know. But for as vapid as she comes off, I always assumed Bianca is just as smart as her sister.
Sad that so many people think that “girly” isn’t smart which isn’t true
I was looking for this comment!!! You're absolutely right ❤!! I also assume, that Bianca is actually very very smart, I often identify me with her actually, I'm very feminine and like to be like that, but I'm also not dumb)))😂 and I like the way Cameron treated Bianca 😌 and how in the end they both grew up and saw each other as they were))
That part where she tells Joey the white shirt makes him look more pensive and the look of disgust she gives him when he replies “damn,I was going for thoughtful” Loooool
I'm with you on the second hand embarrassment- I cannot watch people sing or do big public displays, it makes me want to peel my skin off.
i'm glad i'm not alone. i usually love musicals, but Patrick's scene gives me the same embarrassment as when restaurants sing me happy birthday 😖
@@artatmidnight Honestly after watching that dreadful scene in Perks of being a wallflower theres nothing that gives me second hand emberassment quite the same
But that was the purpose of it.
It wasn't actually the singing that was the romantic part.
Noone knows it's for Kat and Kat just enjoys that Patrick makes a fool of himself.
noooo i love that scene its so fun and silly 😢
Weirdly, I couldn't watch her reading the poem, that must have been so embarrassing because she probably didn't intend to cry.
Damn kat has a lot of interests and talents! Reading, soccer, drawing, writing, music, she can play guitar like what can’t this girl do?? Lol I also have always thought she is one of the most beautiful characters in teen rom coms ever. Like every time she’s on screen I am in awe😅
When you basically don’t have friends and aren’t popular I can imagine she has a lot of spare time to learn hobbies lmao
Thank you, I really enjoyed this video! I love Kat and Patrick.💖 One of my favourite lines is when Patrick, Cameron and the other dude are talking and Patrick says something like "you think I'm not a pretty guy?" kind of menacingly, I find it so funny 😭
yes ! 😭 and then after a beat, Cameron is just like "i was just checking i wasn't sure"
Whhaaattt??? Heath singing in the bleachers is hilarious! I get the worst second hand embarrassment when she cries reading her poem at the end. I know that's the one of the most critical points but I just cannnooott. Have to mute skip or look away from the screen😭😂
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the crying wasn't actually meant to happen, Julie was just stressed. It made the scene better tho
Ironically Kat gets pissed at Patrick for NOT taking advantage of her which is exactly what she’s worried about Joey doing to Bianca
She gets mad because she felt a genuine connection with him, which was mutual, and I think anyone would be embarrassed in that context
women are a funny breed
This is a bit off-topic but I really like how Bianca still got to be just as feminine towards the end of the movie.
No hate towards masculine women (all women are cool just the way they are) but I really appreciate how the movie doesn't demonize her hyper-fem style like a lot of other teen shows do.
I think it'd be really cool if more teen movies embraced people being themselves- whether or not the character's style/outward expression matches gender stereotypes.
26:25 - I went back and watched to check, and this brings even more meaning to the apology-gift! When Patrick sees Kat playing a guitar in the music store, it is a Squire. But when he gifts her a guitar, he buys her a Fender Strat in the same color! Man really went all out!
Gifting the guitar at the end really tied this movie in a nice bow. Love Patrick but the man still was still lying to her the whole time😂😂
that regina drawing is SO GOOD so beautiful !! i know that lighting must've been SUCH a fun challenge, and so rewarding ! cause it turned out so perfect and vibrant‼️‼️‼️
thank you so much! I was actually practising lighting when I drew it haha thank you for noticing!! 💛
I didn’t even notice it was a drawing until I read this comment 😮 that some talent 😮💨
Bianca truly deserved someone better than mr Nice Guy, hes as selfish and shallow as she used to be. He likes her because she's pretty and popular, he does a ton a thing to date her, and then threw them in her face when he realised she wasnt really interest, but dude, who forced you?
He PAYS someone to date a girl??? How is he a good guy? hat was his character develepment, really?
true he was just blinded by love and desperation
Yeah good point
He's a shallow, unlikable Mr. Nice Guy and honestly i dont like him either but he did have a point back then. Bianca knew he was into her and knew he was trying hard to get with her (1. she didn't reject Cameron and instead hinted that the only reason she wouldn't go out with him was because of her sister and 2. even helped with the plan at one point) but never intended to date him, since the beggining. He didn't call her out in the car scene because he thought she was ungrateful for not liking him back despite everything he'd done, but because she really was selfish. She just needed to say she wasn't interested.
@@yayagldz Not denying thatAT ALL
its a pot calling the cattle black situation
Let's not be oblivious, Bianca knew he liked her and she purposely exploited that so she could go out with Joey.
I have always absolutely loved this film. I think I was 14 or 15 when my friend and I rented it from Blockbuster (dating myself with that reference). We were so in love with it that we watched it 6 times in 3 days. Two 14 year old, heterosexual boys.
Its so great to put this movie on every so often and instead of seeing it get dated with time and with newer perspectives, it just gets better or more beloved. However, I can't believe I never noticed Kat wore those pearls to prom, a symbol of her learning from Bianca like Bianca learned from her. Thanks for pointing that out.
LMAO i understand the singing scene w patrick is so embarassing but it's so cute 😭 he did it well and i tear up every time i see the scene. rip heath 🕊
i feel like kat's predictable contradictions (doing the exact opposite, but in that way observing the rules) is a great way of showing her juvinality as well.
I loved this little essay by the way
i really liked the style-- and tbh overall vibe-- of kat's best friend in this!
great video!!
yes her name is Mandella! she had the perfect 90s/indie/Shakespeare wardrobe
I wish there was more screen time of her, she’s so lovely, but they had to cut the movie to a certain time so they cut out some of her scenes!
If you like the actress, she is in Drive Me Crazy and Center Stage from the same era.
I haven’t seen the full movie, but I love how Kat’s development doesn’t mean she changes who she is. She has her same interests and values, and her strong attitude, but now has more perspective about the people around her and adjusts her beliefs with what’s real, not what she thinks
This movie is great. Not only it tackles the women's side but the men's side too, as Cameron and Patrick are opposites and both learn what the other lacks.
Cameron learns to be more confident and self assertive while Patrick learns to be more vulnerable and emotional, but this happens in a subtle manner that perhaps a lot of people don't notice, especially since the focus are Bianca and Kat.
That's why I like this movie as it gives both perspectives, plus it's a fun and well made film.
By the way... Heat analysis!
Cheers
Loved this analysis! I never noticed the parallels with Sense and Sensibility, but you're absolutely right. One sister needed to learn to be more discerning, and the other to be more open - but packaged in it's own way with protectiveness and overprotectiveness being the theme. Fantastic essay! As I watched the clips I thought, I'm going to search for some 10 Things fashion videos after this, and then you provided! TYSM! ✨🌙✨
so glad you enjoyed !! thank you 🥰💜
Underlying Kat's personality is a fear of rejection informed by her experiences. It's not talked about much but i think their mum leaving had a huge affect on the girls and their family dynamic because Kat was coming of age and thrust into these terrible experiences with boys while having no guidance and no adults or older people in her life who could understand.
With her mum rejecting her, then Joey, it makes sense that she's so hurt when Patrick doesn't kiss her after the party.
as someone that is extremely rejection sensitive, thats how i interpreted it too. he did the right thing but i understand her reaction
This is one of my fav movies! It's so cool seeing someone dissect it like this. First video of yours I've seen- but definitely won't be the last!!
thank you so much ! so glad you enjoyed ! 🥰
my sentiments exactly:)
23:42 i loved this because this time shes doing something truly on HER own terms. shes not doing it to please others but shes also not doing it to just to oppose society. shes doing it for her sister. its one of my favorite parts of the whole movie
22:04 Omg I love this scene. I get second hand embarrassment so easily with so many things but for some reason that scene is so nice to me. I love how the band comes in and helps him out lol
10 Things is a lot more than a teen movie. The main characters have depth
This was my favorite movie when I was a little kid growing up and is still one of my all time favorites yet I NEVER noticed Kat was wearing the pearls at the end when they go to prom!!!! I’ve seen this movie hundreds of times too!
I love this movie because I see myself in both of the sisters😍
you have a good balance hehe 💕 i love this movie too
This is one of the most socially and psychologically comprehensive critiques of this movie I have ever seen. And it’s accurate. 👏👏👏
This video is so well done!!! 👏omg I didn’t even realize most of these points 😳 And i agree with you, the serenade has severe second hand embarrassment for me as well 😭
thank you sm !! so glad i'm not the only one who suffers through that scene 😭
‘Not Another Teen Movie’ parodied the scene you don’t like. It was really funny lol
I remember that 🤣😂
This used to be one of my favorite movies. When she let the arrow go and hit her teacher in the background, I used to die laughing. I want to go watch one of the original version of the taming of the shrew now.
Kat got mad that he didn’t kiss her like she didn’t just throw up before they got in the car 😂
I loved the video and the incredible work you have made and all the effort
this makes me so happy, thank you Irene! 🤗 I had so much fun putting it together 💕
13:41 something that always frustrated me with her English teacher though is that he never brings up classism or racism to encourage other students, especially the black students, to also fight against discrimination that they face or to look into the lack of racial diversity in their syllabus. He only ever uses it as a "gotcha" moment to shut Kat up as a girl speaking out about misogyny.
Heath ledger was so brilliant in this film he was a great actor 😢😭
That's a really well done video essay. Time to rewatch this movie 🥰
thank you ! i def recommend a rewatch 🤗💕
I´ve seen this movie about a hundred times and there were still so many things that I´d never even thought about, so thank you for making this video and making this great analysis of this great movie
Fine I’ll rewatch 10 things I hate about you again for the ♾️ time again lol
God I love this movie so much! It's one of my favorite movies along with: Sky High, The Book of Life, Scream (1996), Guardians of the Galaxy 3, The Maze Runner, Divergent, Pride and Prejudice (the 2000s one), and coincidentally enough... The Dark Knight.
I find it super interesting that you can't watch the scene where Patrick sings to Kat bc I am probably the person who gets the worst second hand embarrassment ever, but I live that scene!
i love the drawing of regina UGH the colours are GREAT. I do wanna mention tho as an artist myself too, the skinny lil wrist takes me out of the drawing a lil bit, esp compared with the now comparatively large hand. Anyways, great vid!
For some reason I don't cringe at Patrick's singing scene but mannnn, I couldn't deal with those scenes in Schitt's Creek.
Oh my god yes the singing in Schitt's Creek gives me the most second hand embarrassment I can never hear Simply the Best the same way 😭
@@ravenwilliams7636 And it lasted so long as well! 😩
I think it’s because Patrick is genuinely a very good singer, and neither of them seem to care about the possible negative consequences
ahh i love this movie so much!! you are so well spoken and opened my eyes to this movie’s deeper themes. great content!
i ate this video up,really loved this unique perespective on the sisters!
thank you! I can't wait to make more videos like this 🥰
I got recommended this video essay and I absolutely loved it! This has been my all time favorite romcom since I saw it in high school and I love the appreciation. 💖
I never thought the singing scene was embarrassing. Patrick had a good singing voice, and he really doesn't care what most people think about him anyway.
The saddest scenes in the film (in no particular order) are:
Kat's poem recital.
Bianca on the tire swing.
Cameron when Bianca walks right past him with Joey.
Kat confronting Patrick outside of the prom.
His little noises were SO cute! Congratulations Gibi and Ben!
You have a really nice voice to listen to!!
thank you ! you just made my day 🥰🩷
God why were movies in this decade sooo good compared to movies today?
Omg the drawing of Regina is amazing!!! You’re so talented!!
This video is chef's kiss
thank you 🥺🤍
I know this is a year late, but thank you for covering this movie!!
I just found this channel and i love all your videos especially the euphoria one. here have some hearts 💖💖💖
thank you ! and thank you for the hearts, have some right back 💖💖💖
8:58, An unfortunate aspect of them just speeding past this bit of drama is how much Cameron mainly likes Bianca because she's attractive until finally opens up to her (and to himself, you could say) her negative qualities, and they then end up together.
Had the argument been more of a back and forth, her calling out his shallowness being just like hers despite him not being a truly terrible person like Joey, and him having to acknowledge he did ignore those bad qualities she has mainly because he got to spend time with someone he found attractive (a relatable motive, but not a justifiable one for ignoring the red flags she wasn't interested in him or a good person to be in a relationship with) and the argument could have ended with him agreeing they should just stay away from each other because of how tainted their relationship.
But if the movie were to end on a romantic note, they could meet up and propose a fresh start and endeavor to actually learn something personal about the other, build a relationship based on mutual understanding than one of base attraction.
13:30, On the other hand, props to the movie for calling out the disparity between social groups in regards to countercultural movements, but more importantly, that the character representing liberation from societal norms can still be wrong about things and has room to grow, which is often not the case in mainstream media products involving social justice themes, in which the same kinds of characters can be treated as persistently flawless and correct, even when they are actually not, and in the process lack nuance or anything else to make them memorable besides them being lesser versions of actually well-written characters with social justice themes. Basically, it's a great idea to explore, that being social justice doesn't automatically make someone a good or wise person, but the courage and humility to acknowledge negative experiences along with the possibility for good ones is a step towards being a good person.
Odd how I hust randomly was looking for the song 'I love you baby', the scene, wanted to send it to my sweetheart, and this is posted no less than 14 hours ago....so of course I gotta watch this video....This movie was one of the few I kept watching over and over back in the day.
I feel you so much about the singing scene! I think it's so embarrassing because it SHOULD be embarrasing, given how they establish the world and characters. It's entirely diegetic while no one else is singing or sings in the movie. It also feels a bit too over the top and unrealistic for the characters, given how they previously express embarassment or regret towards other public acts. The characters are socially aware enough to know what the status quo is (whether they go with it or not), so the fact everyone in the scene has a positive reaction to the singing feels too far out of the expected range of behaviours of most present, especially Kat. Whereas with HSM, there are multiple characters who sing both diegetically and non-diegetically and it's frequently reinforced as expected, natural and accepted.
Something that has always bugged me about the cringy singing scene is that this stupid public display of “affection” seems like the opposite to what Kat would find endearing/romantic. It feels like something that someone like Bianca would find romantic, but Kat seems like she would be able to see through the performativity and shallowness of the act. They don’t really know each other well at that point either so it comes across as a bit like he’s mocking her imo, or maybe I’m projecting because that’s what I would think if I guy I barely knew asked me to go out with him in this way. In any case it just seems like there’s such a disconnect between who Kat is and her finding this attractive or charming.
A big part of it is that he was meant to embarrass himself to even the playing field. So it wasn’t necessarily for pure romance, but to even the scales after she put herself out there and he rejected her. He had to do something big to show he was willing to embarrass himself for her.
@@Mrawgan25exactly! And if you look closely at the scene, no one is looking at Kat, nobody even knows that Patrick is singing to her specifically.
@@t.rae.storyteller that’s one of the reasons I love it so much! It’s not like most people know it’s directed toward her.
But Kat isn't amazed or touched or has any romantic feelings.
Kat laughs. She enjoys that Patrick makes a fool of himself.
That's bc that's not what it's supposed to be. If you watch the scene, you'll notice that Patrick doesn't take it seriously - it's not a public, ultraromantic gesture but a guy making a fool of himself to prove to a girl he cares more about her than what people think or how they see him (a quality that Kat explicitly admires). No one even knows he's singing to Kat!
When i saw this come into my feed i was so excited! I took my boyfriend to see this movie and he said he didn’t really get it, so now i have something more concise than my ramblings to help him!😅 This was absolutely incredible💕
I agree with you - this movie is very underrated and not just a love story. I think that stands for a lot of Shakespeare's works too though, in the sense that the love stories aren't just love stories. Romeo & Juliet is really a story about tradition, legacy, and rivalries more so than it is about love. In my opinion at least. I also watched this movie for years not realizing that Cameron was played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt lol. Today wasn't the day of realization, but I'm 27 and it was only a few years ago, so...
There was a commenter that talked about why they didn’t find the bleacher scene cringe and I agree. I actually had more embarrassment when she cried in class 😅 I think vulnerability should only be shared w/those that genuinely care for you. So crying in front of essentially strangers makes me veeeeeery uncomfy 💀 just me airing out my issues w/displays of “negative” emotion in public, BUT great analysis vid! Makes me wanna watch the movie again even tho Mr. Nice Guy’s actions and Patrick’s lacking repentance heavily bothers me.
true, it makes a lot more sense knowing that she wasn’t originally supposed to cry, but the crew was so moved by the first take that they decided to keep it
this truly is one of my favourite movies, I love the way you talk about it, you gave me a new perspective on it that I only picked on subconsciously. thank you!
The reason this is one of my favourite movies is not the romance but the relationship between the two sisters. As someone who has an older sister, the writing and script is so close to how real sisters would act. It feels so real.
only watched this film a week ago and was surprised by how much I liked the jokes and dialogue. they are the best part of it and make up for certain weak spots of the plot
I've always loved analysis videos, I've been binge watching your channel all morning! Thank you for working so hard on your content, it's amazing.
He got $300 for dating her, and then spent that money on her. Seems like it proves she wasn't doing it for the money
I like how there's character development on both sisters.
I love this film, even though the scene where Kat reads her poem and cries breaks my heart for her every single time I watch it. 😅
This was an awesome and very insightful piece of work. I really enjoyed your in depth analysis of Kat and Bianca and I'm really glad to have found your channel. 🙂
I love this movie so much. Rom Coms were a big part of my life growing up and 10 Things always held a special place in my heart. It is one of the those movies I can watch a thousand times without getting tired of it. (And Patrick is one of the best male leads of all times, in my opinion.)
I love this movie so much!
it's so nostalgic for me 💕🥰
I love the way you break down each character and analyze. Can you do a video analyzing the series Dawson's Creek it had so many different twists and turns and I would love to see how you interpret it.
I really like this video. I picked some things up myself about the sisters on rewatches and somethings I didn't. and I glad you caught them
I absolutely love kat strafford when I was a kid I wanted be like her Julia Stiles was great in the role 💜😊
Kat’s assignment at the end hit me super hard too. Mid 30s Aussie man here. Trying not to like a woman at work who reminds me of Kat l, damn it I’m messed up
There was more I got from Bianca my last rewatch, about two hours ago, and hearing more from you makes so much sense and I understand her more. I never really understood why Bianca wants to go to Prom cause even though she kissed Cameron she still just kinda seemed done with boys in a way but it makes more sense now with just having more autonomy and being able to make her own decisions in the little ways she can. Love this movie and the humor is on point.
On a side note I also sometimes get second hand embarrassment in shows but only from drunk kid that doesn’t drink and admits embarrassing stuff, like in Everything Sucks or S3 or 2 of Sex Education. I can’t watch them and always have to fast forward. I also have no idea why and I empathize with you. Doesn’t make sense. Great video!!
um is nobody gonna talk about the drawing!?
IT WAS AMAZING
I love it because kat is like me seeing right through others to protect others from experiencing the same thing. Even though her little sister obviously thinks she's just being a negative nancy.
I have only just discovered your cannel today and i've been bingeing some of your videos and you are so damn articulate, and it's like hearing my opinions of movies put into well thought out and articulate videos and it's really satisfying. This movie in particular is one of my favourites, and you literally helped my to realise why. I always felt I most related with Kat, but i now realise I also very much relate to Bianca, as a child of a very strict and protective parent. I've never thought too deeply about this movie, as it's just one of those movies I love to watch/listen to when I want to switch off, but you've really opened my eyes to what I truly love about this movie, which makes me really sad, and really grateful, thank you
I love this movie so much!!!
this is such a fanastic analysis, amazing work!
I know this comment is late, but...
I really like how clear and plainly spoken you present this...
This movie is feminist in how both learn to have agency over their lives
And also learning to find relationships that respect that... after all isn't that we all want?
I don’t cringe at the singing scene. I do always cringe at the flashing scene 😂
Your drawing of Regina is beautiful!! and i loved this videoo :)
you are so talented. this was a great video, so insightful and it is always so interesting looking deeper into the movies i love!!! keep up the fantastic work i look forward to seeing more of your content in the future :)))
stoppp i love the part where he singssss
Wow. This is one of my top ten favourite movies…I have seen it over thirty times…and never noticed that Kat wears the pearls to the prom! How did I miss that?!?
*not me waiting all the video so see the only scene you always past forward*
omg thank you for summing up why i love this movie so much 🥰🥰
My favorit movie ! 🥰🥰🥰
it's such a good comfort watch 🥰
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Your Regina George art looks so beautiful! Very nice way to distract me from the blurring :)
thank you!! 🥰💜💜
It's just weird that she didn't even consider that he didn't want to make out with her when she just puked up a lot of tequila.
I loved your instagram edits, hope you keeping making videos
thank you! i have so much fun making these so i will def continue 🥰
Kat's enterance theme song is sth from Fiona Apple for sure
which song is that?
A-MAZING video! Damn I didn’t realize this movie went this deep lol, your perspectives are always great and your videos are always so well produced, *and* you are well versed in costumes too lol, always worthwhile keeping up with your channel
This is my favorite movie ever and this is my favorite movie essay video ever ❤ thank you for this
After so many times watching this movie, I don't know how I've never noticed that bridge troll statue at 11:17 😂💀
My all time favourite movie!!!!!! i thought i was the only one who hated that same scene(although dislike is a better word) but i think the scene where they were on the small boat is my FAVE
i much prefer the boat scene ! and the paint ball fight after is so cute too 🥺