YES, I came here to say exactly this. Brett Goldstein (Ted Lasso) floated this idea with The Muppets last year, with him as Darcy and Miss Piggy as Elizabeth Bennet. Genius.
Yes! 2020 Emma was visually spectacular, quirky, and not so far affield of the actual plot that it was unbearable. (The Knightly's booty shot made up for Emma's ridiculous bloody nose.). Netflix's Persuasion? Cringeworrhy. I just can't...
I wonder if this is them trying to get it right this time. I think they have squandered a lot of the goodwill with the Persuasion adaptation, though, it will have to be perfect to please now
@@kahkah1986 I really don’t know. None of these streaming services have had a very good track record with adaptations of beloved works…. I basically don’t watch them anymore without reading reviews first.
@@movealongnowDT it is not question of preferences. It is the only Pride and Prejudice adaptation that is actually real adaptation of the novel, inte a movie about "everything that came into my mind while I pretended to read Austen´s book"
@panchitaobrian660 It is a question of preferences. Like P&P is my favorite book of all time and i read it countless times and yet i prefer the 2005 version. Obviously I never found the book boring but i really had to force myself to finish the 1995 version because it was so dense and the actors did not do it for me. I even like the 80s version more.
Not cinematic enough for me. Doesn’t take you into character perspectives like the 2005 movie does. Books are books for a reason and movies too. It’s ok to change a story a bit if it was done with intent to honor the original story
I mean why not ? I personally think we already have as close to perfection as we can get with what we have. - You want to experience the whole book in visual format with historically adequate costumes and hair ? --->1995 - You want to escape into a cottagecore fantasy romantic eye candy vision ---> 2005 (That's why I love both) Not counting the Zombies one, Bride & Prejudice, the 80s one, the 40s one and probably others. What else could another adaptation bring ?
I desperately want to see a good Mansfield Park adaptation! I actually thought the casting of the 1999 version was perrrrrrrfect - except for Fanny, and of course all the changes the script made to her character, and little adjustments to the plot and dialogue... no. But alas. I doubt any production company would have the gumption to create a movie or series about a heroine who is, externally anyway, shy and meek - look what they did to poor Anne Elliot, who was never even either of those things! Speaking of, I do think the recent Persuasion adaptation had a few redeeming features, but it was too uneven and the cringey anachronistic moments were just... ugh. Octopus on your face, indeed.
Thank you for mentioning Tenant of Wildfell Hall, I wish more people knew about it. I'd like an adapation of Agnes Grey as well even if it isn't as complex, I think it's so cute and it's very akin to Austen so many people would enjoy it. I think the last good direct adapation of a classic that I've seen was the Emma movie from 2020
@@johannalehto9154 Both of those would be absolutely lovely - Anne is "my" Bronte, and I've been on her side for decades now. When the 1996 "Tenant" came out, I did see it. I don't remember much of it, and my assumption is that it's probably decent but not as rich and fulfilling as it could have been. But I'd have to watch it again, as I could be completely wrong.
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall tackles such a deep and hard to talk about topic though that the movie would be hard to market. There's the issue that people come into period dramas expecting a feel-good movie, whereas The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is a gritty, realistic depiction of what an abusive marriage was like in the Victorian era and the few options open to women wanting to escape.
@@MorganJ some Dickens or Hardy adapations did succeed in the past and they are also harsher (like say Bleak House and Tess of the D'Urbevilles). Also Wildfell Hall does have a cute romance and happy ending despite all the sadness so I think it could work, Gaskell's novels are also like that and they did have decent adaptions like North and South or Wives and Daughters
The 90’s Tenant of Wildfell Hall is amazing. It sticks very close to the book, it’s beautifully shot, and all the actors are amazing and famous, though more among Brits. I’m shocked so many people don’t know about it. I think it’s in the same category as the 90’s P&P and Persuasion. There was a real renaissance of literary adaptations then.
Precisely how I feel. I really enjoy seeing what each adaptation brings to the story. I loved both 1995 and 2005 version, for different reasons. Would love to see Henry Cahill as Darcy. And a petite woman playing Elizabeth! Not someone who is runway model tall.
Netflix: ruining Jane Austen since 2022. The only thing I look forward to is to see the video floggings that will come from the shades of Pemberley being thus polluted. "Bucket of salt" taken!
Hurrah for another adaptation of Tenant of Wildfell Hall!! As you say - SO underrated and my favourite Bronte novel too. It's subject matter is, sadly, still so relevant to today's world. Why oh why aren't they doing that?
Wish they would discover Georgette Heyer. Would love to see Fredrica, Cotillion (my fav), or the Grand Sophy. So many great stories that would make great TV.
@@SpinstersLibrary I envy you. You still have the joy of reading them for the first time. I'm 70 and have been re-reading them since I was 16. Love her humor.
There are literally thousands and thousands of people who are too young to have seen the bbc version or even the Keira knightly one. While we who have seen 95 version or 2005 may feel it’s enough, let it be a new discovery for them. Let them love the original not just the derivative. I just hope it’s more along the lines of the most recent Emma rather than Persuasion. And I hope to god they don’t go the route of Bridgeton.
What I'd *really* love to see is a miniseries of The Count of Monte Cristo, I think the last one we got was the early 00s one that peeled back the plot to the bare bones, and lost so much fun and juicy drama. There's so much there to work with, and I think all the adaptations leave out the fun supporting characters from the whole "revenge" section. More screen time could dig into Haydee, the Greek princess who's always forgotten but could be part of a theme of gender and class inequality that's dropped. Eugène Dangars, the daughter of one of his enemies, who didn't want to marry and runs off to be a musician is all but canonically queer rep. There's enough plot and themes and commentary that nothing has to be invented or inserted, just lifted up and clarified and it would be *sensational* in the hands of the right production team. They want the next Game of Thrones, it's right there.
I love Jane Eyre I have read over a dozen times. The part at the beginning about the Lowood school always makes me sad. Also when she is locked in her dead uncles room always causes me to cry.
I'd watch another if it were authentic to the Jane's work, and done well. I'd also be just as happy rewatching 1995 BBC with Jennifer and Colin forever.
If you can get your hands on the 1996 "The Tennant of Wildfell Hall" it is well worth watching. It's quite faithful to the source material and Tara Fitzgerald is perfectly cast as The Tennant. For me, if they want a Bronte (and please NOT a Blonde Jane Eyre!), then "Villette" might be worth a shot - though they might have to do something about the unreliable narrator/central character... While they are at it, it's been quite a while since we had any George Elliot adaptations and something like "Silas Marner" would offer potentials for either a straight adaptation or a modern retelling featuring a former American Evangelical in the title role...
That adaptation of the Tenant of Wildfell Hall is amazing. You will love it. Also everything you said could be done for Mansfield Park was already done around the year 2000. I love that one too. A little racier, a little more politicized, but not too much of either.
I think there's nothing wrong with having multiple adaptations of beloved works... however, after the Netflix Persuasion I don't have high hopes for this one.
yes! we definitely need a more powerful version of Mansfield Park than the watery insipid versions thus far created; and Northanger Abbey likewise, could be so much more fun - a teen romp, like Clueless.
Thanks a lot for this video. I would humbly add that they can pick classics from countries and traditions other than England's. We have a big variety of countries and communities to choose from :)
Recently I tried to rewatch Persuasion to see if it was as bad as I remembered. It was worse and I couldn't finish it. Totally agree about being overdue a good Mansfield Park adaptation. I would also love to see a modern Tenant of Wildfell Hall.
I was horrified when the 5 x 50 min 1980 version was cut down to 3.5 episodes for video release. I was so happy to find BBC America released the 5 episodes on DVD. The cast was perfectly chosen, love the production.
OHMYGAWDYES!!! Carmilla!!!! How in the world are there no movie adaptations of that yet? That would be excellent! A problem with many adaptations, IMO, is that classic/Victorian novels tend to be long, and so a lot of the story gets sacrificed. It's a major reason why I've hated all movie versions of The Woman in White -- although a multi-part TV series might be able to do it justice. Same with Count of Monte Cristo - I think you just have to read the book, which granted at 1200+ pages will seem daunting to many people. But Carmilla is an excellent choice: whopping good story in a relatively short novella. By the way, if you do have Disney channel, several months ago they did a show called "Renegade Nell" - some of the people behind it also did "Gentleman Jack." I don't know if it is based on a book (and if so, it is a modern one), but it was a fantastic show. Set in late 1700s, about a woman who becomes a "highwayman" and crusader for revenge/justice. It had a bit of a fantasy element to it. It's kind of like a fantasy fanfiction of history. Really good!
I already saw four period-piece Pride and Prejudice movies. The one with Colin Firth and the one with Lawrence Olivier are the ones I liked the most. Bride and Prejudice 2004, I will give an honorable mention because it is a musical and that it takes place in three different countries in a modern setting. (I love musicals, favorite song in Bride and Prejudice is "No life without Wife". The four sisters singing this song together.)
OMG, I definitely need to see all the adaptations you’ve suggested! If only they find male actors appealing enough. A huge problem of the Netflix Persuasion version (on top of everything else) was the lukewarm Captain, imho. Any chemistry between the lead characters and it would have been a different film altogether.
This was such a fun video, Claudia! I’m a bit P&P’d out, but I do love your concept for a Bridgertonesque version of Northanger Abbey. I’m currently reading NA, and agree that it would readily lend itself to such a retelling. Catherine Morland is much more likely to break the 4th wall, and sass the viewer, than Anne Elliot.
IMO, yes, we can always use another. Maybe, just maybe, it will be good. If not, their loss, I'll keep reading the books and watching 1995. Perhaps it will combine the character accuracy and costume accuracy from 1995 with the correct ages and cinematography of 2005? There's always a chance.
I'd love a new Pride and Prejudice adaptation as I wasn't satisfied with either editions so far BUT only if it's done right. I really hope Nettflix learnet their lesson from Persuasion and doesn't repeat the same mistakes in this one.
The problem with "Do we need another adaptation of" videos is that we don't know if we need it until we actually get it. Did we need another The Thing movie? The original 1950s version was actually really good. Did we need another The Fly? The eighties versions of both became the one everyone thinks of. I'll bet most people didn't know the Curt Russel The Thing was a remake. If it's well cast, well adapted, and says something that the previous adaptations do not, then this one may supplant the 1990s version of Pride and Prejudice. If any of these aspects are lacking, then it will come out and quickly be forgotten as most people will gravitate back to the 1990s TV show or the 2000s movie. (Or maybe --gasp-- read the novel.) Personally, I don't see a problem with new adaptations. Have fun with them if they're good, or toss them in the proverbial dumpster if they aren't.
Tbh I agree that this would be a good time for a Mansfield Park adaptation, but for different reasons and with a different preferred focus: I think the potential is there for a sensitively-handled narrative about surviving abuse. Because in modern parlance, 'abuser' absolutely *is* the role which Mrs Norris plays towards Fanny, and to a greater or lesser extent, all of the Bertrams bar Edmund (who consistently defends Fanny against Mrs Norris if nothing else) are Mrs Norris' enablers at some point.
The only things I'd want from another adaptation are a) Greta Gerwig at the helm, and b) Anna Popplewell (Susan from Narnia) and Georgie Henley (Lucy) being reunited as onscreen sisters as Jane and Lizzy respectively. Anna would be a great Jane and after seeing bits of Georgie on _The Spanish Princess_ I'm convinced that girl is a hugely underrated actress and actually has the range to pull off a great Lizzy. Yes, we're all ancient and she's old enough to play the part now. I know it's too much wishful thinking on my part though especially since Greta's too busy (coincidentally) fighting with Netflix to let her release her Narnia reboot in theaters
Agree Tenant of Wildfell hall would be great for tv. Glad you mentioned Harlots,I loved that series,it was so good and I've never found anyone who watched it. Yes,we don't need another P&P but obviously we would all watch one!
I liked that Tenant of Wildfell Hall movie. I remember when I first watched it on A&E (back when they showed a lot of those movies). I would be OK with a new one though. But yes, while I love Austen, there are so many other works that could be made into movies/series. P&P (1995) was perfect don't mess with it. Unlike previous P&P adaptions it doesn't look like the 60s etc pretending to be Regency England. Whatever they do make, just don't mess with it trying to make it about a girl boss etc like the latest Persuasion mess
I was onboard until you said Dolly Alderton 😂 my favourite definitely the 1995 bbc mini series but my best friend’s favourite is the film with Keira Knightly, so I feel like a new adaptation will be someone’s favourite!!!
Yes ('Fire Island' which should've had a theatrical release) and no (Netflix has too many misfires). As a Gen Z Queer South Asian, I've had 'Bride and Prejudice' and 'Fire Island' (alongside the classic Keira Knightley period drama where a hot guy is down bad for her).
To be fair, that describes most films Keira Knightley has ever been in 😅 (lovely to hear from you btw - I sent you an email earlier this month and was wondering whether you got it)
Sanditon was pretty good, but it was a great shame that Theo James chose to leave after only one series. Mind you his character was a bit of an arse and would probably have made her unhappy. The one she ended up with would have treated her better.
The 1995 version is perfect and my favorite. But I love the 2005 one too. Both were made before I was born lol. Saying this as an 18 year old! Some of us don't want another one!
I wouldn't say need, as it was an essential for keep on living. But we can always have one more to compare and say that 2005 was so much better and that none will ever beat 1995 BBC. Same goes for the actors casted for Lizzie and, primarily, Darcy's role.
Good to see you Claudia. I guess each generation wants their own version of P&P - but please let it not be made by the folks that made that awful version of Persuasion (my favorite Austen). I would like to see an updated adaptation of some of these novels: The Buddenbrooks by Thomas Mann Therese Racquin by Emile Zola The Golden Bowl by Henry James A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith The Custom of the Country by Edith Wharton Sunset Song by Lewis Gribbon
I had my 2005 P&p which launched my love for Jane Austen. Gen Z & Gen Alpha deserves a good adaptation of a Jane Austen novel that will let them discover her fabulous writing and characters.
I only saw the 2 last BBC series. I should look for the first 4. I admit I am part of those who stopped going to the movies. I used to have a subscription and go a lot. I switched to a streaming subscription. I could not stand anymore being in a room with smartphone screens lighting up every few seconds somewhere in the theater catching the eye. And also with people answering to the same smartphones and having their conversations just as in their living room.
New subscriber here. Very much agree with you! Highly recommend the BBC adaptation of “The Tenant of Wildfell Hall.” Hope you enjoy it! And yes, it would great to see a new version. I also am super annoyed by Fanny in “Mansfield Park.” :)
As much as I love the mid-'90s adaptation of Tenant, I am dying for a remake. It's such a forward-thinking novel and still so relevant, especially if you have experience with alcoholics. Anne Bronte deserves more attention than she gets! We don't need yet another Jane Eyre, and as far as I'm concerned, the 2011 adaption of Wuthering Heights is the best we're going to get. There's no need to revisit either novel for a while, and I would rather filmmakers focus on the Bronte's other works if we're going to get more adaptations.
There are many other excellent books that would be great to adapt, another P & P is not required. The Keira Knightly Matthew Macfadyen version was definitive.
I loved the BBC'S Tennant of Wildfelhall adaptation so much I tried to read it but as must have been only 11 or 12 at the time I gave up because the read was too challenging. I've read Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights as an adult so perhaps it's time to give Tennant another go.
I enjoyed your comments on P&P adaptations but was surprised by two things….. (i) how you managed to avoid saying how awful the 2005 film was (imho) despite the delightful Kiera Knightly who should surely have been Jane not Lizzie and (ii) you didn’t mention Pride and Prejudice and Zombies which in so many ways adapts P&P beautifully… albeit with zombies. Certainly one of the best Mr Collins ever portrayed by Matt Smith. I’m new to your channel so maybe you’ve reviewd PP&Z…. I’ll check 😀
Haha, you can save yourself the effort - I've not read or watched Pride & Prejudice & Zombies - I'm sure I will one day. I didn't say the 2005 film was awful because I don't think it was awful. I don't like it nearly as much as the 1995 adaptation, but it's a decent enough film.
I don't have Netflix. I refuse to on principle because not everyone can afford it. So I will not be seeing it. I don't have time to waste on adaptions that ruin the book for me. Spinster, have you read the Athena Club books? Theodora Goss wrote a trilogy about the women who are usually killed off in Victorian fiction (like the puma woman in The Island of Dr. Moreau). Carmilla is a character in it and she's fantastic. It's fascinating and I love it.
I don’t remember what year it came out, but there was one adaptation of Mansfield Park that implied quite heavily that the wealthy family Fanny lived with, got their wealth from slave plantations in the Caribbean, which I had never picked up on, just reading the book. I didn’t enjoy the story. Overall, the secondary characters were not exemplary people. I probably wouldn’t watch another adaptation. I enjoy Northanger Abbey a lot both the book and the adaptation with Felicity Jones and JJ Fields. I honestly don’t see how they could improve on that one. I do wish the powers that be weren’t so risk-averse, and would select another author all together to showcase. They might have a huge hit on their hands! 🤷♀️😄
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Yes we do need another Pride and Prejudice series, but all the characters must all be played by your cats
PRIDE AND PURRJUDICE LET'S GO
yes, it is the only one alternative to 1995 series we may really need )
Minerva would make an excellent Mr Darcy... she's very good at glaring. Also brooding.
I would be 100% up for this!!!
Yes!!
I really want to see a Northanger Abby adaptation that goes full out Gothic
Oh but Felicity Jones was Brilliant
That would be so much fun!
They can do another one IF it’s a Muppet Pride and Prejudice
That would be soooooo awesome!
Ok, but a Kermit Darcy and Miss Piggy Bennet movie sounds so fun!
YES, I came here to say exactly this.
Brett Goldstein (Ted Lasso) floated this idea with The Muppets last year, with him as Darcy and Miss Piggy as Elizabeth Bennet. Genius.
Tim Curry as Mr. Collins
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I think Kermit is more suited to Mr Bingley.
I’m Gen Z, and I’m quite content with Colin Firth, thank you very much!
Same!! Like what more could you want?
😊 You are wise beyond your years!
He's perfection.
If it’s like the recent adaptation of Emma, yes please do another one.
If it’s like the Netflix persuasion one, no thanks!
Yes! 2020 Emma was visually spectacular, quirky, and not so far affield of the actual plot that it was unbearable. (The Knightly's booty shot made up for Emma's ridiculous bloody nose.). Netflix's Persuasion? Cringeworrhy. I just can't...
If it’s anything like the Netflix adaptation of Persuasion, then the answer is no, we do not need another. 😂
I couldn't disagree with you less.
That Persuasion adaptation was dreadful. Unwatchable.
I couldn't agree with you more. A woke, awful mess.
I wonder if this is them trying to get it right this time. I think they have squandered a lot of the goodwill with the Persuasion adaptation, though, it will have to be perfect to please now
@@kahkah1986 I really don’t know. None of these streaming services have had a very good track record with adaptations of beloved works…. I basically don’t watch them anymore without reading reviews first.
Basically the BBC 1995 adaptation has ended all the P&P adaptations.
Preach, sister.
The BBC 😊think it’s time to do another one. But because 1995 was so good they are doing ‘The Other Bennett Sister’ which is P&P from Mary’s POV.
I think the 1995 BBC miniseries with Jennifer Ehle and Colin Firth is so perfect!
That is my favorite one!
@@movealongnowDT it is not question of preferences. It is the only Pride and Prejudice adaptation that is actually real adaptation of the novel, inte a movie about "everything that came into my mind while I pretended to read Austen´s book"
It's my favorite too. The only critique I allow is that the actors and actresses were all much older than the characters they played.
@panchitaobrian660 It is a question of preferences.
Like P&P is my favorite book of all time and i read it countless times and yet i prefer the 2005 version.
Obviously I never found the book boring but i really had to force myself to finish the 1995 version because it was so dense and the actors did not do it for me. I even like the 80s version more.
Not cinematic enough for me. Doesn’t take you into character perspectives like the 2005 movie does. Books are books for a reason and movies too. It’s ok to change a story a bit if it was done with intent to honor the original story
If someone's going to make a movie set in Regency England, I wish they would adapt one of Georgette Heyer's books
I think she had a claws written into her will forbidding her works being filmed or televised.
@@janemacdonald3732 I'm pretty sure there was an adaptation ofThe Reluctant Widow back in 1940s...
Yes me too. I’m sure her stories would be a hit.
@@janemacdonald3732Claws would certainly deter me.
I would love that. I adored GH and have read all her books at least three times.
I mean why not ? I personally think we already have as close to perfection as we can get with what we have.
- You want to experience the whole book in visual format with historically adequate costumes and hair ? --->1995
- You want to escape into a cottagecore fantasy romantic eye candy vision ---> 2005
(That's why I love both)
Not counting the Zombies one, Bride & Prejudice, the 80s one, the 40s one and probably others.
What else could another adaptation bring ?
I desperately want to see a good Mansfield Park adaptation! I actually thought the casting of the 1999 version was perrrrrrrfect - except for Fanny, and of course all the changes the script made to her character, and little adjustments to the plot and dialogue... no. But alas. I doubt any production company would have the gumption to create a movie or series about a heroine who is, externally anyway, shy and meek - look what they did to poor Anne Elliot, who was never even either of those things! Speaking of, I do think the recent Persuasion adaptation had a few redeeming features, but it was too uneven and the cringey anachronistic moments were just... ugh. Octopus on your face, indeed.
Thank you for mentioning Tenant of Wildfell Hall, I wish more people knew about it. I'd like an adapation of Agnes Grey as well even if it isn't as complex, I think it's so cute and it's very akin to Austen so many people would enjoy it. I think the last good direct adapation of a classic that I've seen was the Emma movie from 2020
Yes! Would love to see and adaptation of Anne Grey and the Tenant of Wildfell hall
@@johannalehto9154 Both of those would be absolutely lovely - Anne is "my" Bronte, and I've been on her side for decades now. When the 1996 "Tenant" came out, I did see it. I don't remember much of it, and my assumption is that it's probably decent but not as rich and fulfilling as it could have been. But I'd have to watch it again, as I could be completely wrong.
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall tackles such a deep and hard to talk about topic though that the movie would be hard to market. There's the issue that people come into period dramas expecting a feel-good movie, whereas The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is a gritty, realistic depiction of what an abusive marriage was like in the Victorian era and the few options open to women wanting to escape.
@@MorganJ some Dickens or Hardy adapations did succeed in the past and they are also harsher (like say Bleak House and Tess of the D'Urbevilles). Also Wildfell Hall does have a cute romance and happy ending despite all the sadness so I think it could work, Gaskell's novels are also like that and they did have decent adaptions like North and South or Wives and Daughters
The 90’s Tenant of Wildfell Hall is amazing. It sticks very close to the book, it’s beautifully shot, and all the actors are amazing and famous, though more among Brits. I’m shocked so many people don’t know about it. I think it’s in the same category as the 90’s P&P and Persuasion. There was a real renaissance of literary adaptations then.
There has been no need for another P&P adaptation after the 1995 miniseries.
Your '100% agony, 0% hope' thumbnail is iconic.
And YES to an adaptation of the Tenant!
There's always room for another Pride & Prejudice 🌹
Precisely how I feel. I really enjoy seeing what each adaptation brings to the story. I loved both 1995 and 2005 version, for different reasons. Would love to see Henry Cahill as Darcy. And a petite woman playing Elizabeth! Not someone who is runway model tall.
Same thoughts
Netflix: ruining Jane Austen since 2022. The only thing I look forward to is to see the video floggings that will come from the shades of Pemberley being thus polluted. "Bucket of salt" taken!
I'm among those who will hate watch with relish 😅
@@SpinstersLibrary I think you could maybe orchestrate a worldwide #JaneAustenJuly Hate Watch party with Katie and Marissa. FUN! 🙂
I'm not sure I want to be responsible for that much suffering 🤣
Ah, she forgot "Pride and Prejudice And Zombies "😂
I like that better than 2005❤😅
Hurrah for another adaptation of Tenant of Wildfell Hall!! As you say - SO underrated and my favourite Bronte novel too. It's subject matter is, sadly, still so relevant to today's world. Why oh why aren't they doing that?
Must go and watch it😊
Doesn't have the universal brand awareness P&P does. Studio execs are not very far thinking I'm afraid.
@planetwatch0000 they need to sort themselves out. How can they miss the relevance of the subject matter? Or are they all men and just don't get it?
They could also look into adapting Georgette Heyer.
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@@planetwatch0000some of them must be out of copyright by now.
The BBC did achieve perfection in the 1995 version! I agree with your choices of Mansfield Park and Northanger Abbey.
I still hope for new Northanger Abbey, even though I love the 2007 version. It's just such a fun book!
I'm open to a new North and South but I don't know that Netflix can be trusted 😂
Yes
My take: Lady Catherine and Mr Collins are so much fun to play, every actor and actress wants to have a go. That’s why we need more adaptations./j
Wish they would discover Georgette Heyer. Would love to see Fredrica, Cotillion (my fav), or the Grand Sophy. So many great stories that would make great TV.
Yes! I've only read two of her books so far but there's so much potential there for a really fun adaptation
@@SpinstersLibrary I envy you. You still have the joy of reading them for the first time. I'm 70 and have been re-reading them since I was 16. Love her humor.
Frederica's my absolute favourite. But I fear if they make a TV/movie adaptation out of it, given the current trend, it will be beyond recognition
Yes! I love those three, and Cotillion was my entry into Heyer's world and I have never looked back
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Thank you for acknowledging how wonderful the ‘95 P&P was!
I loved A Little Princess as a child so would definitely watch a new adaptation of that
@@marroosh Have you see the Alfonso Cuarón film? I highly recommend it!
There's also a television series from the 80s of A Little Princess.
@@ritawilbur6128there's also a television series of A Little Princess from the 80s.
There are literally thousands and thousands of people who are too young to have seen the bbc version or even the Keira knightly one. While we who have seen 95 version or 2005 may feel it’s enough, let it be a new discovery for them. Let them love the original not just the derivative. I just hope it’s more along the lines of the most recent Emma rather than Persuasion. And I hope to god they don’t go the route of Bridgeton.
I am afraid that they will do ala Bridgertons smutty version of P&P
What I'd *really* love to see is a miniseries of The Count of Monte Cristo, I think the last one we got was the early 00s one that peeled back the plot to the bare bones, and lost so much fun and juicy drama. There's so much there to work with, and I think all the adaptations leave out the fun supporting characters from the whole "revenge" section. More screen time could dig into Haydee, the Greek princess who's always forgotten but could be part of a theme of gender and class inequality that's dropped. Eugène Dangars, the daughter of one of his enemies, who didn't want to marry and runs off to be a musician is all but canonically queer rep. There's enough plot and themes and commentary that nothing has to be invented or inserted, just lifted up and clarified and it would be *sensational* in the hands of the right production team. They want the next Game of Thrones, it's right there.
I haven't read the book yet but I'm already sold on this idea!
I love Jane Eyre I have read over a dozen times. The part at the beginning about the Lowood school always makes me sad. Also when she is locked in her dead uncles room always causes me to cry.
One of my faves from childhood. I studied it for O level. There are loads of adaptations out there, film and tv.
Yes we need it. I loved each adaptation including the one with zombies😂 I'm ready for mooooooooooooore
Yesssssss! We need another 'Pride and Prejudice", pretty please!!!!
I'd watch another if it were authentic to the Jane's work, and done well. I'd also be just as happy rewatching 1995 BBC with Jennifer and Colin forever.
If you can get your hands on the 1996 "The Tennant of Wildfell Hall" it is well worth watching. It's quite faithful to the source material and Tara Fitzgerald is perfectly cast as The Tennant.
For me, if they want a Bronte (and please NOT a Blonde Jane Eyre!), then "Villette" might be worth a shot - though they might have to do something about the unreliable narrator/central character...
While they are at it, it's been quite a while since we had any George Elliot adaptations and something like "Silas Marner" would offer potentials for either a straight adaptation or a modern retelling featuring a former American Evangelical in the title role...
I too love Villette
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is a brilliant adaptation. I love it.
That adaptation of the Tenant of Wildfell Hall is amazing. You will love it. Also everything you said could be done for Mansfield Park was already done around the year 2000. I love that one too. A little racier, a little more politicized, but not too much of either.
I think there's nothing wrong with having multiple adaptations of beloved works... however, after the Netflix Persuasion I don't have high hopes for this one.
yes! we definitely need a more powerful version of Mansfield Park than the watery insipid versions thus far created; and Northanger Abbey likewise, could be so much more fun - a teen romp, like Clueless.
Thanks a lot for this video. I would humbly add that they can pick classics from countries and traditions other than England's. We have a big variety of countries and communities to choose from :)
I'm only 3 minutes into this video, and I love your sense of humor 😄
...also, BBC's period drama should make this video required viewing for its employees.
Recently I tried to rewatch Persuasion to see if it was as bad as I remembered. It was worse and I couldn't finish it. Totally agree about being overdue a good Mansfield Park adaptation. I would also love to see a modern Tenant of Wildfell Hall.
I was horrified when the 5 x 50 min 1980 version was cut down to 3.5 episodes for video release. I was so happy to find BBC America released the 5 episodes on DVD. The cast was perfectly chosen, love the production.
OHMYGAWDYES!!! Carmilla!!!! How in the world are there no movie adaptations of that yet? That would be excellent! A problem with many adaptations, IMO, is that classic/Victorian novels tend to be long, and so a lot of the story gets sacrificed. It's a major reason why I've hated all movie versions of The Woman in White -- although a multi-part TV series might be able to do it justice. Same with Count of Monte Cristo - I think you just have to read the book, which granted at 1200+ pages will seem daunting to many people. But Carmilla is an excellent choice: whopping good story in a relatively short novella.
By the way, if you do have Disney channel, several months ago they did a show called "Renegade Nell" - some of the people behind it also did "Gentleman Jack." I don't know if it is based on a book (and if so, it is a modern one), but it was a fantastic show. Set in late 1700s, about a woman who becomes a "highwayman" and crusader for revenge/justice. It had a bit of a fantasy element to it. It's kind of like a fantasy fanfiction of history. Really good!
That sounds really fun, thank you for the recommendation!
Wasn't there a movie adaptation of _Carmilla_ just a few years ago? Jessica Raine from _Call the Midwife_ was in it, I think...
I already saw four period-piece Pride and Prejudice movies. The one with Colin Firth and the one with Lawrence Olivier are the ones I liked the most.
Bride and Prejudice 2004, I will give an honorable mention because it is a musical and that it takes place in three different countries in a modern setting. (I love musicals, favorite song in Bride and Prejudice is "No life without Wife". The four sisters singing this song together.)
The other modern day versions of Pride and Prejudice, I can't remember them.
OMG, I definitely need to see all the adaptations you’ve suggested! If only they find male actors appealing enough. A huge problem of the Netflix Persuasion version (on top of everything else) was the lukewarm Captain, imho. Any chemistry between the lead characters and it would have been a different film altogether.
Definitely, she had so much more chemistry with William Elliot.
The bbc 1980 one is really good and underrated.
This was such a fun video, Claudia! I’m a bit P&P’d out, but I do love your concept for a Bridgertonesque version of Northanger Abbey. I’m currently reading NA, and agree that it would readily lend itself to such a retelling. Catherine Morland is much more likely to break the 4th wall, and sass the viewer, than Anne Elliot.
Enjoyed this, thank you. You did slip up at 10.32 when you said 'Mansfield Park but meant 'Northanger Abbey'
Yes I was hoping no one would notice.
@@SpinstersLibrary Totally forgivable! Anyone who hates Netflix Persuasion as much as I do is ok in my book.
IMO, yes, we can always use another. Maybe, just maybe, it will be good. If not, their loss, I'll keep reading the books and watching 1995. Perhaps it will combine the character accuracy and costume accuracy from 1995 with the correct ages and cinematography of 2005? There's always a chance.
I want it if only to be super disappointed and have something to criticise for days!
Don't call me out like that 😅
Yes... I can't get enough.
I'd love a new Pride and Prejudice adaptation as I wasn't satisfied with either editions so far BUT only if it's done right. I really hope Nettflix learnet their lesson from Persuasion and doesn't repeat the same mistakes in this one.
I wouldnt count on it judging by the mess they have made of Bridgerton.
The problem with "Do we need another adaptation of" videos is that we don't know if we need it until we actually get it.
Did we need another The Thing movie? The original 1950s version was actually really good. Did we need another The Fly? The eighties versions of both became the one everyone thinks of. I'll bet most people didn't know the Curt Russel The Thing was a remake.
If it's well cast, well adapted, and says something that the previous adaptations do not, then this one may supplant the 1990s version of Pride and Prejudice. If any of these aspects are lacking, then it will come out and quickly be forgotten as most people will gravitate back to the 1990s TV show or the 2000s movie. (Or maybe --gasp-- read the novel.)
Personally, I don't see a problem with new adaptations. Have fun with them if they're good, or toss them in the proverbial dumpster if they aren't.
I adore the 1980 version. It got me through my English Lit exams. I still watch it today. ❤
Tbh I agree that this would be a good time for a Mansfield Park adaptation, but for different reasons and with a different preferred focus: I think the potential is there for a sensitively-handled narrative about surviving abuse. Because in modern parlance, 'abuser' absolutely *is* the role which Mrs Norris plays towards Fanny, and to a greater or lesser extent, all of the Bertrams bar Edmund (who consistently defends Fanny against Mrs Norris if nothing else) are Mrs Norris' enablers at some point.
The 1996 Tenant of Wildfell Hall is pretty good, if memory serves. And YES to a Lady Audley's Secret adaptation.
I really need to watch that Tenant adaptation!
I would love to see Longborn ( it is about the house keeper and her son)
The only things I'd want from another adaptation are a) Greta Gerwig at the helm, and b) Anna Popplewell (Susan from Narnia) and Georgie Henley (Lucy) being reunited as onscreen sisters as Jane and Lizzy respectively. Anna would be a great Jane and after seeing bits of Georgie on _The Spanish Princess_ I'm convinced that girl is a hugely underrated actress and actually has the range to pull off a great Lizzy. Yes, we're all ancient and she's old enough to play the part now. I know it's too much wishful thinking on my part though especially since Greta's too busy (coincidentally) fighting with Netflix to let her release her Narnia reboot in theaters
Yes. The answer is always yes.
YESSSS for The Tenant of Wildfell Hall! It is still so very relevant.
Agree Tenant of Wildfell hall would be great for tv. Glad you mentioned Harlots,I loved that series,it was so good and I've never found anyone who watched it. Yes,we don't need another P&P but obviously we would all watch one!
I liked that Tenant of Wildfell Hall movie. I remember when I first watched it on A&E (back when they showed a lot of those movies). I would be OK with a new one though.
But yes, while I love Austen, there are so many other works that could be made into movies/series. P&P (1995) was perfect don't mess with it. Unlike previous P&P adaptions it doesn't look like the 60s etc pretending to be Regency England.
Whatever they do make, just don't mess with it trying to make it about a girl boss etc like the latest Persuasion mess
I'd prefer they'd take a wack at an Ann Radcliffe, Frances Burney, or Maria Edgeworth book. But I get why they keep doing Austen adaptations.
I was onboard until you said Dolly Alderton 😂 my favourite definitely the 1995 bbc mini series but my best friend’s favourite is the film with Keira Knightly, so I feel like a new adaptation will be someone’s favourite!!!
I definitely think we need a new Tenant of Wildfell Hall. Also, what about Shirley?
Yes ('Fire Island' which should've had a theatrical release) and no (Netflix has too many misfires).
As a Gen Z Queer South Asian, I've had 'Bride and Prejudice' and 'Fire Island' (alongside the classic Keira Knightley period drama where a hot guy is down bad for her).
To be fair, that describes most films Keira Knightley has ever been in 😅
(lovely to hear from you btw - I sent you an email earlier this month and was wondering whether you got it)
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You have "A Series of Unfortunate Events" on your shelf!😍
Absolutely loved BBCs Tenent of Windfell Hall!
I’m pretty worried about all the new adaptations of classics 😭😭 especially the new wuthering heights (with Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi)
Sanditon was pretty good, but it was a great shame that Theo James chose to leave after only one series. Mind you his character was a bit of an arse and would probably have made her unhappy. The one she ended up with would have treated her better.
The 1995 version is perfect and my favorite. But I love the 2005 one too. Both were made before I was born lol. Saying this as an 18 year old! Some of us don't want another one!
Your makeup is totally on point and flawless today. ❤
Thank you 😊
I wouldn't say need, as it was an essential for keep on living. But we can always have one more to compare and say that 2005 was so much better and that none will ever beat 1995 BBC. Same goes for the actors casted for Lizzie and, primarily, Darcy's role.
No.. No we do not. The 1995 BBC mini series was perfect. Stop messing with perfection ! 🤨
Good to see you Claudia. I guess each generation wants their own version of P&P - but please let it not be made by the folks that made that awful version of Persuasion (my favorite Austen).
I would like to see an updated adaptation of some of these novels:
The Buddenbrooks by Thomas Mann
Therese Racquin by Emile Zola
The Golden Bowl by Henry James
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith
The Custom of the Country by Edith Wharton
Sunset Song by Lewis Gribbon
I had my 2005 P&p which launched my love for Jane Austen. Gen Z & Gen Alpha deserves a good adaptation of a Jane Austen novel that will let them discover her fabulous writing and characters.
That's a fair point and I hope they get that - not sure we can trust Netflix with the responsibility though 😅
Yes, I want more and more Jane Austen.
I only saw the 2 last BBC series. I should look for the first 4.
I admit I am part of those who stopped going to the movies. I used to have a subscription and go a lot. I switched to a streaming subscription. I could not stand anymore being in a room with smartphone screens lighting up every few seconds somewhere in the theater catching the eye. And also with people answering to the same smartphones and having their conversations just as in their living room.
The answer to this question is ALWAYS, EMPHATICALLY, YES!
Well they did say that ‘Pride’, a P&P modern retelling did get picked up… So we are getting two versions?
Im actually a big fan of the book Mansfield Park and would LOVE a good Mansfield Park adaptation.
New subscriber here. Very much agree with you! Highly recommend the BBC adaptation of “The Tenant of Wildfell Hall.” Hope you enjoy it! And yes, it would great to see a new version. I also am super annoyed by Fanny in “Mansfield Park.” :)
As much as I love the mid-'90s adaptation of Tenant, I am dying for a remake. It's such a forward-thinking novel and still so relevant, especially if you have experience with alcoholics. Anne Bronte deserves more attention than she gets! We don't need yet another Jane Eyre, and as far as I'm concerned, the 2011 adaption of Wuthering Heights is the best we're going to get. There's no need to revisit either novel for a while, and I would rather filmmakers focus on the Bronte's other works if we're going to get more adaptations.
Great commentary!
Thank you!
Mansfield Park is my favorite Austen. And i hate what the 1999 film did to it. So it'd be nice to have that adapted but NOT like Netflix Persuasion.
Yes we Always need more Austen and period pieces in general to compensate for any rare garbage versions.
There are many other excellent books that would be great to adapt, another P & P is not required. The Keira Knightly Matthew Macfadyen version was definitive.
I loved the BBC'S Tennant of Wildfelhall adaptation so much I tried to read it but as must have been only 11 or 12 at the time I gave up because the read was too challenging. I've read Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights as an adult so perhaps it's time to give Tennant another go.
You should, I'm sure you'd appreciate it a lot more as an adult
Ah, what could possibly go wrong? And also...we just don't need one. Why not make a series from a novel that hasn't been very adequately covered yet?
And let it be a long like 10 part series
I would rather them adapt Northanger Abbey.
I enjoyed your comments on P&P adaptations but was surprised by two things….. (i) how you managed to avoid saying how awful the 2005 film was (imho) despite the delightful Kiera Knightly who should surely have been Jane not Lizzie and (ii) you didn’t mention Pride and Prejudice and Zombies which in so many ways adapts P&P beautifully… albeit with zombies. Certainly one of the best Mr Collins ever portrayed by Matt Smith.
I’m new to your channel so maybe you’ve reviewd PP&Z…. I’ll check 😀
Haha, you can save yourself the effort - I've not read or watched Pride & Prejudice & Zombies - I'm sure I will one day. I didn't say the 2005 film was awful because I don't think it was awful. I don't like it nearly as much as the 1995 adaptation, but it's a decent enough film.
Yes, we need another P&P adaptation. I’ll take it!
I would appreciate an adaptation of Persuasion or Mansfield Park as I have not found a great one to watch.
please don't if it's netflix.
Yes!!! We do!!!
I don't have Netflix. I refuse to on principle because not everyone can afford it. So I will not be seeing it. I don't have time to waste on adaptions that ruin the book for me.
Spinster, have you read the Athena Club books? Theodora Goss wrote a trilogy about the women who are usually killed off in Victorian fiction (like the puma woman in The Island of Dr. Moreau). Carmilla is a character in it and she's fantastic. It's fascinating and I love it.
I thought I’d seen The Other Bennett Sister was going to be made (?). edit . Oh okay I did 😊
Movie or TV could hack Carmilla to bits and I wouldn’t care-but you better respect Jane Austen!
I don’t remember what year it came out, but there was one adaptation of Mansfield Park that implied quite heavily that the wealthy family Fanny lived with, got their wealth from slave plantations in the Caribbean, which I had never picked up on, just reading the book. I didn’t enjoy the story. Overall, the secondary characters were not exemplary people. I probably wouldn’t watch another adaptation.
I enjoy Northanger Abbey a lot both the book and the adaptation with Felicity Jones and JJ Fields. I honestly don’t see how they could improve on that one.
I do wish the powers that be weren’t so risk-averse, and would select another author all together to showcase. They might have a huge hit on their hands! 🤷♀️😄
That's the 1999 Mansfield Park with Frances O'Connor
@ thanks, I only saw it once so couldn’t remember the details. 😄
I would prefer if they made a movie using one the many sequels that have been written.
The BBC are adapting The Other Bennet Sister, which is exactly that.