I have a feeling that a better adaptation would be one where Anne is presented as someone coping and overcoming narcissistic abuse from her father and oldest sister
There are things about the 2007 version that I really like, but Amanda Root is so *physically* Anne Elliott and her portrayal is so on point - and the overheard conversation and letter scenes so powerful - that 1995 will always be my favorite.
2007’s Anne had _ZERO_ glamorous good looks either. I don’t mind that Wentworth was drop-dead gorgeous, it’s my favorite part and I’m not a bit ashamed to admit it. 🤤🤤🤤
Ciaran Hinds looked like a man who had spent many years at sea, had been in battles, and was used to commanding men. Rupert Penry-Jones looked like a man who wouldn't know a bowsprit from a yardarm. To me, such things matter. The 1995 version, to me, is quite beautiful. It takes the novel and translates it into a great film. I became a bit annoyed watching the 2007, especially when Wentworth bought Kellynch. Why? Even if it had been possible, given that entail issue, surely the best thing for Anne was to get away from there? It allowed her to grow as a woman, with a husband who loved her, one who needed nothing from Kellynch, except Anne.
he was quite old though. He looked like he could be Louisa's or Henrietta's father. It wasn't stated that Wentworth bought kellynch, he could have rented it. It is only your assumption that moving away from Kellynch would have been what's best for Anne, this is not a fact. Perhaps staying at Kellynch, which was attractive enough (to Anne) when she was considering Mr. Elliot as a prospect, shows that she would flourish there. It was where she felt safe, and some people flourish where they feel comfortable and safe.
@@Bibirallie In the novel Wentworth is roughly in his early thirties so about 12 years older than Louisa. In Austen's novels there are a few marriages with significant age differences: Emma and George Knightley, Marianne and Colonel Brandon, Colonel and Mrs Forster. The adaptations tend to shy away from these age gaps. During the Napoleonic wars Wentworth would have been an heroic, romantic figure to the Musgrove girls, especially with his association with their wastrel brother. And, IMHO Hinds captured that. He looked like a brave dignified and attractive commander of men. Penry Jones didn't. And that should matter. And re living at Kellynch? I don't think Anne was ever really happy there. It was a place she had to live in but not really a home for her. It was in Bath and Lyme that she came alive. It was Lady Russell who urged Anne to marry her cousin, but that was a price too high for Kellynch. Anne no longer needed Kellynch when she had Wentworth which Austen sort of makes clear in the novel. Persuasion is probably my favourite Austen novel. The Root/Hinds adaptation I think captured its autumnal beauty. My favourite Austen adaptation by far.
The 1995 film is my favourite. Simply because 'the boy' in the 2007 film might be able to sulk decoratively, but was never ever out on sea for a decade as a captain. He looks far too young and unweathered. That's why I'm extremely biased towards Ciaran Hinds. When I saw the 2007 captain, I went into full Lady Russel-Mode and told Screen-Anne: 'THAT one? Dear, drop him. That's no seasoned captain, that's an impostor. There is nothing about that boy that deserves your attention. - If it must be a captain, pick that Harvey, that boy is not worth a single quick step in Bath."
I agree with you 1000%!! I love how the 1995 adaptation is the most loyal to the book, but the emotions that the 2007 adaptation brings makes it my favorite!! 😍🤗❤
I do prefer the 1995 version to the 2007 one, but that is largely due to that repressed longing the actors have together. Just the intensity of their eye contact. So. Good. But the 2007 one is fun.
That longing makes their kiss that much sweeter. In 1995 the very tall Wentworth bent down to kiss the much shorter Anne. I believe it symbolizes her complete vindication in his eyes. Ok. The circus showing up is rather weird and incongruous. I really don't get it. Even after 26yrs.
I loved the rest of the world moving on round them while they only exist for each other. They are still while the circus parade brings excitement. I remember, as a very small child,a circus parade walking from the train station through my town. It was so exciting I was determined to go and see the show. Great advertising.
Sally Hawkins really was wonderful as in the 2007, but I like the 1995 better, too. The ending is much better, and as hot as Rupert Penry Jones was, Ciaran Hinds was wonderful. More weathered and believable.
@@amysbees6686 I think that they wanted to show that even amid chaos their Love is steadfast and calm. Also, they only have eyes for each other and nothing can now persuade them to deviate from this love bubble
@@amysbees6686 I think it was meant to show how the noise and busyness of the world around them can't touch their love and the world they will build together - but yeah, it was kind of jarring. Not as bad by a long shot as the marathon of bath and the hungry bird kiss, but you can be a lot better than those and still not be great.😉
It's funny I have the completely opposite reaction from you between the 2007 and 1995. I preferred the 1995 version. I felt Sally Hawkins was just a little too nervous and angsty. I found the supporting cast from the 1995 memorable. Particularly Sophie Thompson as Mary and Sam West as Mr Elliot. That kiss in the 2007 version was just too goofy for words
Flashback to 1990s. You read about a wonderful production of Jane Austen's Persuasion that is coming to the home video market. This means rent it from the movie rental place because the price to buy a new non-mainstream release would be too expensive to buy. So you get in the car and drive across town only to find they don't have the movie. And they only put out new releases on certain days and so if they get it, it could be another week. So back in the car the next week and the next and they finally have it! And they only had one copy and someone else got there first. Which means going back every few days for a few weeks waiting for it to be returned until you manage to snag the one cassette they have. The work you used to have to put into getting your hands on a movie that was not yet "priced for home sales" took patience and determination so at least in my case no other production could ever mean so much as the hard to come by 1995 version of the film.
In Persuasion, I always felt the word for Anne was Duty. Her sense of duty to her family and to others as a child of the prominent family in the neighborhood was what drove her. Her duty to marry well was what made her sway to the opinion of those of rank. The modern tendency To present this as a wishy-washy character is to do her a disservice and removes an entire layer from her personality. It also removes a layer of pain that she has when Wentworth sees this sense of feminine duty as an personal affront and not a conscious choice not to marry for her family’s detriment. She chose not to be selfish to her own detriment. It was not a blind listening to Lady Russell as even some of the book characters present.
Agree. What is lost as well from modern views of this era is that 'romance' was quite a 'modern' idea at this time. Ann's mother and Lady Russel would not have married for 'love'. They made 'good matches'. They would have hoped that given time, hard work and a little luck they could have formed fond, companionships with their husbands. Marriage was the only job a woman of her social class could have, the only income, the only form of individuality, the only way to have a say in her life, the only means of achieving fireedom, a meaningful future and her pension. A bad marriage (think of Lydia and Wickham in P&P) made for the wrong reasons was a social, financial and possibly family suicide. Wentworth was a young man, of an unknown family, no money to keep a wife and few prospects engaged in a career which would see him leave his wife for years at a time, and likely to kill him. Not marrying Wentworth - was not bad advice! It was the advice that a sensible, dutiful daughter of a gentleman should listen to. The true pathos and heart break of the story - is that for all the good advice, it turned out that it was the wrong advice.
It is strongly hinted that had she married Wentworth he might not have had the career in the navy he enjoyed. The heartbreak drove him to sea, even though the first ship he was offered was all but a suicide trap. Anne concludes that her decision might have been right or wrong depending on how things had turned out either way.
@@claireforrest2157 beauty of the story is that life and fate had them coming together at the end. After all the sorrow and separation, it is a wonderful, happy ending.
I would add that Anne, while reserved and resigned to put others before herself is extremely capable. Keeping her cool in any emergency; while everyone else freaks out is like her super power. The most likable aspect of her character. She presents as a doormat for everyone but she is really the take charge leader. She takes charge of the families expenses when it hits a dire level, she takes charge of the care of her nephew when he is dangerously injured and like wise Louisa. She does most of this while she is herself in a long term depression.
Exactly!!! I would LOVE to see a version where SHE is shown as the STRENGTH in her ridiculous family! That she has run of the household (even though Elizabeth believes it is herself), as seen when they need to pack, deal with the tenants and creditors, find a place to move, etc… and the Steward has worked all of this out with Anne ahead of time. She ultimately called it off and refused Wentworth because she was persuaded by Ms Russell that her family could not “survive” without her, and that it would ultimately destroy her family and her sisters prospects for marriage. She had such strength, yet it was always behind the scenes.❤
One part I absolutely adore with the 2007 adaption, is when Captain Wentworth introduces Anne to Harville, and Harville knows exactly who she is and what she has been to his good friend. We see that Wentworth has told Harville about Anne at some previous time, which shows us a lot, both about Harville and Wentworth's friendship, and about how deeply hurt Wentworth has been by his relationship with Anne. (Wait a minute, you're Miss ANNE Elliot?! Dude!) But I have to vote for the 1995 as my favorite - it just gets Anne and Wentworth so perfectly.
I thought I liked the 2007 one more, but recently went back to watch the 1995 one, and boy! it gave me ALL the feels!! It was pretty amazing! but I really like both the adaptations tho...
Love the 2007 version better. Anne Eliot 2005 version looks 40 and it's hard to imagine her as 27. I know she's supposed to be faded but the book did not mention she aged two dacades
1995 version is one of my favorite movies. Little known fact that the actress may who played Lady Russell, Susan Fleetwood, was Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac’s sister who sadly passed away in 1995. She was a brilliant actor. If you can find it, she was in a great mini series called Summer’s Lease in 1989.
The 2007 version has my heart. It really evokes the longing, yearning for a do-over, and regret that both parties hold. I also found it to be far more intimate. Having Anne vocalize her thoughts through a journal made it seem like you knew her, like you were her closest confidant rooting for her.
I first and saw and fell in love with the 1995 version (because I'm old). I didn't like the 2007 version as much when I first saw it, but enjoyed it more on subsequent viewings. I enjoyed some of the things you called out (the change in cinematography as Anne gains confidence) and I do like the cast a lot. But Amanda Root (you talk about Sally Hawkins' eyes but Amanda Root's eyes are so perfectly communicative as well) and Ciaran Hinds are simply so perfect. I just feel the longing and the suppressed love and the pain so much, but it's so subtly beautiful. That said, I'm so thrilled to have TWO such perfect adaptations that I can watch over and over and enjoy them both so very much. When I was young, Emma was my favorite. Then Pride & Prejudice. But now that I'm older and can appreciate it more, it's Persuasion. It's just so perfect, and both of these adaptations are so amazingly well done.
So glad to hear I am not the only one to watch it over and over. The music, cadence and lighting of the 2007 version do me in every time, but the other versions do draw out different aspects of the charming novel...
I've only seen the 1995 adaptation and fell in love with it. I love the entire movie and especially Root and Hinds. I've seen that one so many times and have no desire to even watch another version.
Wentworth dropped his writing powder. And yes, it’s a great scene. The ‘95 is definitely my fav. I thought Sophie Thompson & Phoebe Nichols were spot on as the sisters and absolutely fell in love with Admiral & Mrs. Croft. I liked that Anne was rather plain too, like she really had “lost her bloom.” Made her very believable and relatable. It’s also a very beautiful film. That opening scene of the water & the gorgeous score, then the final tag on the ship with the Italian art song during the credits. A truly lovely film!
@@ebriggs3498 I loved them as a couple, partly because, although neither is bad looking, neither is gorgeous. They’re like everyday people. SO many great moments also of telling looks & expressions that say so much without saying a word. Wentworth watching Benwick and Anne and that gem of a moment betw. him, W Elliot, and Anne on the inn steps in Bath. Brilliantly done film, I thought!
Phoebe Nichols was not spot on as Elizabeth. Elizabeth in the book was cold, unpleasant and selfish. However there was no indication in the book that she was slothful, vulgar and shriekish.
My favorite version is the 1995. I haven’t read the book, but I love the 1995 film. To be honest I related a lot to Anne. I used to be extremely shy and quiet. I like everything about the 1995 version. It just makes so much sense. Anne is rational but also very insecure. She’s made mistakes and she’s ashamed and basically realizes that she doesn’t have any friends either-no one who really cares about her after “becoming a spinster” essentially. However instead of lashing out she takes the cruel comments and treatment because she knows ultimately that it was her fault for rejecting the man she loved just because her family told her to (basically choosing money and listening to people she knew didn’t really love her as they should) and she quietly starts to make amends, she starts doing the right thing. That’s why she cannot be a Lizzy Bennet or Emma-it’s because her story is actually basically one of repentance, she’s literally the character who chose money and rank over true love. Whereas Elizabeth and Emma did not make that mistake. Anne has always been insecure of herself and looks for safety, but that actually led to her misfortune. Whereas Elisabeth and Emma are not looking for safety but are naturally confident and aren’t really that concerned about losing their wealth/their safety so much. Emma’s just wealthy with no worries of that. Elisabeth is already not wealthy and she does have a little bit of fear of being even worse off, but she’s naturally strong willed. Anne is the character who was born into wealth and rank, and she’s naturally shy and insecure. She fell in love with a man who had nothing and unfortunately because she’s afraid and naturally always been insecure (probably compounded by her family being the type to compare others and nitpick everything) she runs away back to “safety.” But, then only much later realizes that basically pursuing what appears to be safe actually isn’t-that basically life, that whatever is meaningful in life, does involve some risk. And that you have to be brave sometimes.
well, elizabeth bennet’s love interest happens to be very rich, so she doesn’t actually face a dilemma like pre-novel anne elliott. no bravery required there
I definitely prefer the 1995 version. The actors have such a believable chemistry. You can almost feel the agony and the joy at the end. Hands down, my favorite
The item that Captain Wentworth drops in the 1995 film is the sand container. They would use this to sprinkle sand or some other dry substance to blot up the excess ink after writing, so they could then fold up and seal the letter without the ink smearing onto other parts of the letter.
Persuasion is my favourite austen novel for a myriad of reasons. But primarily I just think it's so romantic that these two people manage to find their second chance at happiness. My personal favourite version is the 1995 miniseries. I think the casting and acting is just **chefs kiss**. I enjoyed the 2007 version but the things you loved - like Anne running around Bath like a crazed person and the super slow kiss (with some hints of saliva 🙈) - those were the things I really disliked. It just didn't do it for me. Enjoyed this series though!
For me, Persuasion '95 is virtually perfect. I don't love the characterization of Elizabeth, and I'm not really sure why they changed Mr. Elliot's motivations, but other than that, I can't think about anything I don't love. 1971 is so bad it's funny, but 2007 makes me laugh AT it, not WITH it. The disgusting kiss, having Anne run around Bath and having Wentworth buying Kellynch are all just ridiculous ideas. '95, however, is beautiful, funny, heart-breaking and poignant. Persuasion has everything.
No lady, back then, would be running around like she's trying to put out a fire all by herself. And then, to tack on how to close-off the Ms. Smith sub plot was terrible. Just as bad as the 70s . . . ugh.
@@JamieRobles1 I think the 2007 version is way worse than the 70s version. In the 70s, it was perfectly normal to do these uber-faithful adaptations without any creativity at all, and this one fit the mold. But the 2007 one was just a steaming pile of poo IMO because a lot of the stuff they did seemed to come out of left field - no rhyme or reason at all. And, frankly, if you need to do a ton of mental gymnastics to make something make sense, it's a waste of time.
In the 1995 version, Captain Wentworth drops a can of pounce, which was "used both to dry ink and to sprinkle on a rough writing surface to make it smooth enough for writing." 🙂
I can say that I saw all the versions. I think the best of all is the one from 1995, with MAGNIFICENT performances. Ciaran Hinds is a sea captain, battle-hardened and obviously devastated by lost love, but I think he is the dashing Wentworth that Jean Austin would illustrate. Amanda Root so sweet, she is the perfect Anne, her looks say more than a thousand words. This version for me is the most exquisite, not only because of the interpretations that I think elevate the film a lot, but because of the wonderful dialogues, as shown by the evolution of the protagonists, of the frivolous society and its treatment of Anne. The anthology scene is not only the kiss at the end, so delicate, the best is when Captain Wentworth asks his father for Anne's hand in front of everyone, the looks of both and their smiles ... are sublime. I change the version of 2007 Sally Hawkins did not finish convincing me and Rupert Penry-Jones does not look like a sailor, rather a gentleman of high society.
Can I say something about the 1995 costume choices tho! The 2007 plays it with colours and shades all over the place but the 1995 was very much on point! The Musgrove sisters and Mary's red capes over flowy, white cotton dresses making a sharp contrast to Anne's bland, dark moss green and grey velvet pieces is just... chefs kiss.
I agree! I very much preferred and gravitated to the 2007 version. The facial expressions, the anguish, her regret of choice. Wonderfully portrayed by Sally Hawkins. Rupert James was the most eye candy version of Captain Wentworth. I myself fell in ❤️ with him. His pain and anger was done to perfection. I found my self routing for them both. Although the running scene was drawn out, my heart was racing with Anne’s through the streets of Bath. Anne loved and cherished her childhood home of Kellyrich Hall, more so than her self absorbed father and sister. So I found it befitting that Wentworth bought it for her, however inaccurate the ending was. 2007 hails as my favorite and I will not waiver.
Totally agree on the 3 supporting cast members you picked out, particularly Mary. Liked them about equally until the last 15 minutes but much prefer 1995 after that. The way they do the letter is brilliant and I like the idea of them sailing off to sea together as an ending more than going back to the country estate.
Also the ship scene for me symbolised her becoming a partner to his life and also expanding her own horizons, literally and figuratively. A bit like Jane Eyre. Also sorry but HATE the slow kiss, drove me bonkers haha!
@@FullofLit I felt like she was so stuck before and no one expected anything from her (like Mary being shocked that she had things to do that kept her away from Mary). And her family cared so much about appearances that they never explored or did anything, they just played cards. But she finds something exciting and gets to go have adventures and not be delicate. It felt right and made me happy. :)
I was introduced to persuasion through the 2007 version and I do love it (the soundtrack when she's looking at old letters kills me) but 1995 is superior and I adore those versions ❤ ♥
I prefer Sally Hawkins in 2007, but Ciaran Hines knocks it out of the park - just a better actor than the other Wentworth (can't remember actor's name)
I am surprised that you thought the minor characters in the 1995 version were not memorable. I was amazed when I first saw it, how many characters stood out as distinct and (usually) lovable - only the two Musgrove sisters were interchangeable. I loved the Admiral and especially Mrs Croft, Mary was funny without being completely ridiculous and Mrs Smith and her nurse were unforgettable. Amanda Root was perfect as Anne, initially solemn and plain, but regaining her glow as she overcame her initial fear of re-meeting Captain Wentworth. Ciaran Hinds was subtle and dignified. What strikes me most about this adaptation is the quietness of the central characters, like the eye of a storm while the hurricane of the other characters rage around them. This is why I disliked the later version so much. Anne changes from a refined, inward, sensitive character to one who spends most of her time running around (which may not be a huge personal flaw) or crying (which is a distinct turn-off.) The scene where Wentworth confessed his love for Anne to another character undercuts the tension of the will he/won't he ending (we already know her thoughts) in the later version, and I was surprised on re-reading the novel to find that it was included. By omitting this scene in 1995, the suspense remains until the end, So, for me, it is 1995 all the way with the glorious cast of characters and especially the luminous Anne of Amanda Root.
Three performances I really, really liked were Sophie Thompson as Mary (really helped me to understand the character), Susan Fleetwood as Lady Russell, and Fiona Shaw as Mrs. Croft. I also really liked Corin Redgrave as Sir Walter.
@@elizabethneill3825 I agree completely. Even though Susan Fleetwood’s Lady Russell was not Austen’s Lady Russell I think she played a more contemporary, less snobbish version we can all believe meddled out of a motherly concern for the younger Anne. I also liked Fiona Shaw’s Mrs. Croft but what was up with the two supporting actress’ short hair?!? There weren’t any period wigs available? Sophie Thompson was exactly my vision of Mary and Ciara Hinds was just freakin’ smokin’.
I'm so glad I found this channel! My people! lol One of the things I really enjoyed about the 2007 version was when Wentworth began doing little things to *force* Anne to allow someone to take care of her. She falls, and while others may be waiting for her to pull herself up - which she absolutely would have - there he is, gently lifting her. When she protests the carriage ride, she insists she's fine and someone else should take it, and there's Wentworth, just over her relentless selflessness, plucking her up and plonking her down. lol The jump and fall injury when Anne immediately takes charge, and he just looks at her in a bit of awe, then later basically rescues her from the chaos that is Mary by asking her to come with him to deliver the news. That was two fold, as he realized he wanted and needed her there to help him. It's such a great adaptation, though truthfully I enjoy all of them for their own special reasons.
Just a bit of random observations to add: A sad fact about the 1995 version is that the studio that released the vhs thought the two leads were not attractive enough to draw audiences and so the cover art replaced them with very attractive models. I know because that’s actually how I first saw this film and was surprised when Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds appeared as Anne and Wentworth as they were not who were pictured. I believe what he dropped in the letter scene was a shaker-type ink blotter. The 1995 version is my favorite, and one of the most memorable scenes is actually a tiny one wherein Anne, when meeting Wentworth again for the first time at Charles and Mary’s house, seems to be relatively calm, but the camera pans in on her hands, and the audience sees her desperately gripping the back of a chair she stands in front of as she tries to control her emotions. You are correct in your observation that Wentworth would not be able to buy Kellynch Hall. It was entailed to the male heirs and was done so as a way to protect and keep the property from being sold by wastrel heirs like Anne’s father who, no doubt, would have sold pieces of it or the entire estate to pay off his debts if he could.
He could be renting it out though because her father needs the money. I took it as he was renting, they probably could for a long time even after Elton inherited because all he wanted was the baronacy and he could take the title but not live at the house. I am sure he would be in London to show off. Just my thoughts.
OMG, I can't believe that they were changed by models...this is crazy. They are so perfect as Anne and Wentworth. I think the movie would've been huge success if it was launched in the cinemas at the time.
Replaced by models?! That's...that's...what the ACTUAL duck. Root and Hines were both perfectly good-looking. Also, how insulting to the actors, to the spirit of the story. WHO thought that would be a good idea?! HOW do you even bring that up? "Hey, guys, listen, screw this moral crap, the public just want hot, hot, HOTTER! Yeah, have the dude kiss her neck, now give 'Anne' a lil' bit of cleavage! Cor! That's better!" ...*shudder* Guess the marketing dept. was full of the kind of people our heroine disliked -- all about misleading appearances for financial gain over any kind of finer feeling.
I wonder whether Cousin Elliott's ill behavior--running off with Elizabeth's gf Mrs Clay, for example--could not have entered into the situation regarding his inheritance. Strings could be pulled. Dr Octavia Cox assures us in some circumstances a female inheritance could be arranged.
decidedly, I prefer Persuasions 1995, but in one thing you’re really right: the fact that we don’t know what Anne really thinks and that in addition, her look is so expressive makes Anne an...independent person. This is indeed altogether contradictory. Thus, I realize why I love Anne Elliot 1995 from the beginning: because I see a sovereign woman, who seems to be beyond the stupidity and insensitivity of her family and who knows why she reacted to her beloved donut in such a way and not in another. She may suffer, but she remains sovereign. In this sense Anne Elliot of 2007 is much more credible as an evolving character. Love your content and expression. 💖
I'm a 1995 fan just because I feel it so perfectly encapsulates the spirit of the book as well as those "blink and you miss them" moments that Austen describes, like glances between people and tiny details, like Mr. Elliot admiring Anne's beauty in Lyme and Captain Wentworth noticing his admiration of her. I don't like how Elizabeth is such a grump, but Sir Walter is properly ridiculous and Mary is excellent. But you've given me a lot of food for thought about the Sally Hawkins one! The marathon and weird kiss were very off-putting for me, but I will watch it again with a fresh perspective!
I completely agree with all your choices and the reasons for your choices!! Especially Sally Hawkins. Her eyes showing pain, love and longing in one one glance at Frederick. And her voice when he’s around. 😢 Plus you’re right in Regency time her sprinting around ( and kissing - THAT KISS 😍) would’ve been so scandalous, but I think it’s needed to show she doesn’t care what others think if it means she loses Wentworth. I rewatch that adaptation every month because of the two leads.
I loved that you described Anne Elliott as a side character in any other novel but wasn't the only heroine Austen wrote who would have been a side character in any other novel. Catherine Moreland is a sweetheart but Eleanor Tilney is the character whose cruel father separates her from the man she loves like a true gothic heroine and Emma's Jane Fairfax has a secret engagement that will lift her and her family out of poverty- Emma herself is just an obnoxious neighbor. Taking "side" characters and showing them grow internally is a great trick of hers. Anyway, 1995's Persuasion is the best and now I have to fight you.
I really loved your breakdown, so glad I found your channel! The 2007 version was the first one I watched years ago, at the time I found it charming but on rewatching yesterday I found it all a bit drab and humourless. I can appreciate the artistic intent behind the greyish, dull colour palette but having watched the 1995 version for the first time the night before, it really threw into sharp focus how different the two versions are, how funny and rich and vibrant the 1995 is by comparison without losing any of Anne and Wentworth’s pain and longing. I actually don’t mind 2007 Anne pegging it through Bath looking for Wentworth, I think it’s quite moving and is supposed to emphasise how desperate she is to return his affections this time around, she is “quite determined”. The salivary kiss though for me is unforgivable 😅 it just pushed the suspension of disbelief too far. At least in the 1995 version it’s more like a gentle little peck whilst the whole town is distracted by the circus, which I can kind of get on board with? Also, whyyyy did the 2007 Persuasion mess with the format of Captain Harville & Anne’s touching convo about who loves the longest leading to Wentworth writing his beautiful letter?! It’s such an important moment in the plot, Wentworth feeling upset, impassioned, frustrated and more in love with Anne than ever; and he just has to put pen to paper to get it out of his system! That was lost in 2007 and it’s such a shame. Sally Hawkins was a very understatedly beautiful Anne though which seemed right and Rupert Penry Jones was suitably dashing as Wentworth, so I’ll give them that ❤
Persuasion is one of my favourite novels of all time, and it deserves so much more attention! I'm so happy you're covering it in some way, I loved hearing your opinions about the movies 🥺💗
What really, REALLY, bothers me about the 2007 version is that Sally Hawkins' Anne is ... a mouth breather! Drove me insane! Kept wanting to close her mouth the whole time. That to me was a deal breaker. I found she practically had the same frightened-deer expression throughout. The movie was very good in general, but no match for the 1995 version. The Wood/Hinds combo for me was perfection itself. Also, in my opinion all the characters were well portrayed in that movie, and the cinematography was gorgeous as was the soundtrack. A pure delight. Thank you so much for this series. I too a-do-re Austen! You're great! I found you by chance and I'm subscribing to your channel.
It's amazing but I completely agree with 100% of what you say! This is the third video of yours that I watched, two of them being the battle series. It's not so much that I agree with the orders you place the adaptations. It's your reasoning, your opinions of book vs. film/TV, and your ideas of what's important for a period drama that I've been thinking about but fail to adequately put into words. 2017 Persuasion is one of my favourite period drama of all time. I love it that you said, in one of the videos I've watch, that Anne is not opinionated and she would never judge people out loud. In this adaptation, instead of speaking out loud, Sally Hawkins looks into the camera to express her opinion of the ridiculousness of the situation. That is genius! And it's very astute of you to point it out. 2020 Emma is another of my favourite period drama for the precise reasons you said in the other video. In my opinion, both of these two adaptations are perfection. I wondered if you've seen 2004 BBC North and South, and what do you think of it? It's another one of my favourite period drama of all time. Oh, what the heck, I'll just list them here since I've already mentioned most of them anyway: 1995 Pride and Prejudice (for sentimental reason), 2004 BBC North and South, 2017 Persuasion, and 2020 Emma. Brilliant adaptations, except maybe for the 1995 Pride and Prejudice but I'll never take it off the list no matter what!
I agree with your list, please don't ever apologize for your opinions. As much as I enjoyed the 2007 version, I got really distracted with the 4th wall breaking and the ending was very rushed. I think they could have added another 15-20 min for a proper conclusion. Speaking of distractions, seeing Anthony Head without Buffy took a while to get used to!
I honestly just really didn't like the fact that they completely erased Mrs. Smith's disability in the 2007 version, AND how they didn't go at all into more of her backstory like I was hoping they would. That was the only thing I didn't like about the 1995 version, but even then I found the actress who played her so memorable and charming and lovable that the actress who played her in the 2007 version was just utterly forgettable to me.
I am right there with you, 2007 is the best version, at least so far. I do love 1995 as well I think of it as a bit more reserved version, its good, but I love Sally Hawkins as Ann and Rupert Penry Jones as Capt Wentworth. I love all those longing glances where as soon as the other looks, they turn away. I love how though he remains resentful and hanging with the two musgrove sisters, he is johnny on the spot when Ann falls, and he is thoughtful enough to get her a ride back with his sister because he knows Ann is injured and limping, just as you mentioned. I love when Wentworth introduces everyone to Capt Harville and says Miss Elliot and Harville knowing full well how much he loved her says “Miss Ann Elliott?” And of course Wentworth speaking of Ann to Harville, as you said. I didn’t like the running quite as much as you did, I thought it was a bit overdone, that would probably be the only flaw to me, but overall, love the 2007 adaptation.
love your insights! my fave version is 1995, but i liked 2007 as well! i think the quietness and subtleness of 1995 suited the story better haha. i tried watching the series, i couldnt finish it ahhh
2007 version is the one for me too! And exactly for the points you mentioned! It's absolutely heart-wrenching! And I love the DRAMA at the end too! CHEERS
Love your analysis because I agree completely. Some ditz complained about the shaky camera work in the 2007 version but it just added to sharing the shaky internal state of our heroine. Fun fact: Rupert Penry-Jones explained the kiss was not in the original script, they added it. That's why it took so long. So incredibly romantic... Love your analysis, kudos
A young woman of any class running on the street back in those days was unheard of I think. So 2007 Anne is definitely throwing caution to the wind and is overcome by the urgency of the moment. But for me Ciaran Hinds is the true Wentworth down to the weather beaten face. His eyes actually shine every time he looks at Anne, even when he’s pissed at her. And also, it’s probably because of the movies and series I’ve watched, that is I have no background in history and historic appearance, but period pieces always lose me when the hair doesn’t look authentic to the era. It’s really bad when you can tell the decade it was filmed in (as in the ‘70 show). But also when it just looks too simple, as in the 2007 one. I get it, Anne was not vain and didn’t bother with being fashionable, but she was very duty bound and a baronet’s daughter would’ve taken better care of her appearance if only because she’d get a lot of nagging from her family otherwise. I feel the 1995 captured the period better in that regard.
My favourite Austen adaptation. There is a fabulous dreamy quality to the images and I love that the sets, lighting, costumes and (lack of) make-up gave it such a feeling of authenticity. It holds up to repeated viewings very well.
Girl! Your curls are life giving. I keep telling my hair, "that's what I mean!", every time I style it but for some reason our communication is off. Now onto my more substantial thoughts. The 1995 version was my first introduction to a Persuasion adaptation. As someone who was a bit tepid about the book it really helped me appreciate the finer details of Anne's character. Plus, Ciarán Hinds can do almost no wrong in my book. Like you though the liveliness of the 2007 adaptation captured my imagination. It felt like a more fully fleshed story as it gave such breath to otherwise somewhat sidelined characters. Sally Hawkins in that version is basically my Ciarán Hinds . Unfortunately I could not get past the ridiculousness of Anne running through streets after Wentworth. I don't mind some deviation but that really did not make any sense considering the time period. And that slomo kiss just ruined that moment for me. I watched a commentary once and apparently the director was attempting to capture the solitary tear that was running down Hawkins cheek. Poppycock! Wentworth should have snatched her up and kissed her himself instead of forcing her to break her damn neck trying to reach him. With all of his previous hostility it felt like a demeaning dagger to me. Of course if he had snatched her I would have probably been screaming impropriety from the rooftops. So I guess I'm just not enough of a romantic. I'm loving this serious though. I could dissect Austin's work for days.
For information's sake the thing Wentworth drops is the sand shaker that they used to dry ink on letters. You can see him blowing the sand off the letter he was writing.
This video made me genuinely happy - your personality, and sheer joy talking about these movies was pure gold ☺ It feels exactly how I feel when I watch these and other similar romance movies. 100% agree with your ranking, even though I'm biased with 2007 as well and have yet to see the other two versions 😆 I just know I would agree with you. You got a new subscriber😁
I loved the scene with putting her on the carriage!! It always cracked me up. I could just imagine him being like "oh my god why are people so terrible to you that I have to be nice to you don't even think about smiling at me."
One appreciates Amanda Root (Anne-1995) all the more after seeing her in The Forsyte Saga, she's a terrific actress. Her Wentworth Ciaran Hinds is very famous and been in so many roles. Incidentally, his Wentworth knocks over the blotting dust container while he's writing to Anne. They sprinkled the dust on their letters to blot the ink. I was always a bit annoyed with Anne 2007 running through the streets WITH NO HAT!!!
Yes finally someone that gets my love of the 2007 version! ❤️ But I must admit I too am biased because I love the Sally Hawkins and the cast so much. I know the fandom loves the 1995 version but there is just something about the 2007 that grips me and I'm so glad you have the balls to just go with your preference~
I was so glad when I saw the thumbnail for this video. I am a Jane Austen loverrrrr but have not read all of her novels, but i have seen more of the adaptations lol. Persuasion by far has to be my fave and i am in love with the 1995 version Amanda Root everytime omg. Also Sophie Thompson who played Mary in this version is so funny to me and she is in the 1996 Emma as Ms Bates and lol i just love her
The 2007 version did make me feel all the feelings, but the 1995 one is the first I saw, so it will always have a special place in my heart. Okay, I don't know if this is still the case, but when my family bought the VHS of the 1995 version, we could NOT get over the photograph they chose for the cover? It was two actors who were not in the movie at all sharing a very, very sexy neck kiss with just a ton of cleavage on show??? And all we could think is, like, maybe it's meant to represent young Anne and Wentworth? But mainly it was probably to make people more likely to pick up the tape and buy it. But it was just so jarringly out of sync with the actual movie's content, it always gave me a giggle. Anyone else remember that?
I have that vhs as well. I also have one with the correct actors on it. And a dvd. And own it on Google . Persuasion is my favourite book and the 1995 movie is my favourite movie, not just my favourite Austen adaptation.
I'm surprised to say that I kinda disagree. Personally, I really thought I was going to like the 2007 adaptation better because the quality of the production was clearly superior and the silly characters were not as caricaturised but I was very surprised to find the 1995 better in my opinion. Especially in terms of acting and pacing. I think the 2007 had more content but perhaps it's because of this that it felt like it rushed through some very important key plot points which often lacked a proper set-up, like Louisa's fall, or the scenes about Benwick's grief over Penelope, or Wentworth's compromise with Louisa, I didn't feel the severity of all that in the 2007 as I did in the 1995 one (except the compromise, that scene didn't even exist in 1995 and I don't think it was needed). I feel like all of those relied on dictating through the dialogue what was going on instead of making the audience feel the severity of it. Anne also felt a whole lot more passive in the 2007 film, which is to say a lot for Austen's arguably most passive heroine, although I have to give props to the actress: when she cried, I too cried with her. The lead actors in 1995 also simply had much better chemistry. The 2007 had the whole discussion between Wentworth and his friend over how he's not over Anne but the 1995 adaptation did not need it at all! The heartbreak and longing could be literally seen with their looks alone!!! I know this might bet a lot of people up in arms, but the way that actor delivered was Alan Rickman level. There, I said it.
I totally agree! Lead actors in 2007 version (I just watched it for the 1st time) are both good, but don't even seem to be in the scenes with each other. It was like they were playing to the camera & not each other at all. And the supporting characters are fleshed out in 1995 version, with their own stories, & are like carriers for the only 2 characters in the 2007 movie. The 1995 version is THE version for me!
I will admit I've not seen your #1 pick, but I'll still suggest you should have gone with your first instinct. The Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root adaptation is PERFECT, the best Jane Austen adaptation I've seen. Hinds looks and acts like a sea captain, and Amanda looks like a slightly faded near-beauty. She is prettier and more suited to the role than your choice, and the other Captain Wentworth is too young and looks more like a stuck-up baron than anyone connected with the sea.
I love the part in the 1995 version when Wentworth is passing Anne into the carriage after that long walk, and his hand on her back ----- ooh, some regency hotness! And yeah, that scene where they're all complaining to Anne.
I love 1995 Persuasion and it is also my favorite of her novels. Amanda Root just goes from gray to glowing by the end as she makes her choices. Her confidence in the card party scenes is just wonderful to see.
I haven’t seen any of the adaptations for Persuasion but I love this because now I know where to start! Persuasion was the last completed Austen book I’ve read and it also jumped way up there to my top 3! Great video as always. ❤️
@@FullofLit I did watch the movie (I think it's 2008) and I really liked it! I will be buying it to add to my collection. That actor that played Wentworth was *chef's kiss*
I'm a 1995 ride or die fan ( ;- ), but I do like the way you explain about the 2007 "It just makes me feel the same way as when I read the book." I think that's the most important thing to do in an adaptation, for sure.
I love listening to your opinions. So good! I too love Jane Austen and totally agree that it’s difficult to choose between these two versions but I believe you were correct because of the supporting characters. For some reason I have never been able to get into Mansfield Park. I need to try again. Don’t know why. Love all the others.
Bad choice - 1995 Persuasion was so much better. 2007 Persuasion was millennial. And that running around Bath at the end was seriously awful. Meanwhile 2022 Persuasion is a car crash.
On point on your analysis on the 2007 version. 1995 version's Anne and Wentworth character seemed to have better on screen chemistry; However, the staging, chaos of her running around, totally out of times, the perfect Phipps sound score, everyone saying, "Anne you look positively done for..." OH the best
I love your insight. For me Amanda Root and Ciaran Hind will always be Ann and Captain Wentworth. The later 2007 version I found disappointing. This heroine I found to be simpering, and not the sort of person a man like like Wentworth would fall in love with.
I literally love how passionate you are about this. Makes me want to rewatch the 2007 one. 😭. Also this is so random but what lip product are you wearing??? It’s so pretty
Damn. I love your take on this and the way you talk about the book vs movie. Instant subscribe. I like 1995 better, but I'm still with you. It's hard to choose. 1970s was fun, but completely agree about that one. Wait wait! Outtakes?!? Yaaaaaaas
2007 is my favorite. Not that I don't adore 1995, I do! But I appreciate exactly the same moments you mentioned: -Wentworth giving a very faint smile at the opportunity to help Anne after she falls from the log -Anne running so shamefully through the streets after a man! -heartbroken gaze that Sally conveys (breaks my heart too) -the convo about Wentworth getting himself tied up with Louisa -Wentworth hoisting Anne onto the carriage. By the way, I also appreciate the carriage scene in 1995. If I didn't know any better, I would have concluded that Wentworth is just seeking an excuse to grope Anne! 😉😄 -my personal favorite: Wentworth's shattered look melting away as Anne denies the rumours and his expression clears away like a gloomy sky giving way to the sun. Someone in the comments said Rupert isn't as good of an actor as Ciaran, and that's simply false. Demonstratively false.
Oh, and BTW, I have no idea who you are and had never seen you before yesterday, but you are an absolute doll and your mannerisms are so cute I'll bet half the (few) guys who stop here are in love with you. Keep up the fine work, and thanks for sharing with us.
I loved the 2007 version best but I love how real everyone is in the 95 version. My favorite scene is when they all come back from the walk and they are just sitting around the fire casually drinking tea and lounging around like they went on a huge hike. They are both my favs!
"Passive" is not how I would describe Anne. Depressed, trapped, defeated, yes. The realism is part of what makes the 1995 version so powerful.
I would not say she is easily swayed, either. She was “pursuaded” to pass on a proposal, but in matters of principle was downright mulish.
I have a feeling that a better adaptation would be one where Anne is presented as someone coping and overcoming narcissistic abuse from her father and oldest sister
There are things about the 2007 version that I really like, but Amanda Root is so *physically* Anne Elliott and her portrayal is so on point - and the overheard conversation and letter scenes so powerful - that 1995 will always be my favorite.
The realism of the 1995 version, including the sadness, loss, less than glamorous good looks-- is part of what made it perfect.
2007’s Anne had _ZERO_ glamorous good looks either. I don’t mind that Wentworth was drop-dead gorgeous, it’s my favorite part and I’m not a bit ashamed to admit it. 🤤🤤🤤
@@mena94x3 I felt there was no chemistry in the 2007 version.
@@starwood213 - maybe not steamy chemistry, but there was at least some.
I thought Anne was the same timeless drop-dead magnetic depth of classic beauty described by Jane. Sue me.
@@mena94x3haha. I like good looking guys.
Ciaran Hinds looked like a man who had spent many years at sea, had been in battles, and was used to commanding men. Rupert Penry-Jones looked like a man who wouldn't know a bowsprit from a yardarm. To me, such things matter. The 1995 version, to me, is quite beautiful. It takes the novel and translates it into a great film. I became a bit annoyed watching the 2007, especially when Wentworth bought Kellynch. Why? Even if it had been possible, given that entail issue, surely the best thing for Anne was to get away from there? It allowed her to grow as a woman, with a husband who loved her, one who needed nothing from Kellynch, except Anne.
he was quite old though. He looked like he could be Louisa's or Henrietta's father. It wasn't stated that Wentworth bought kellynch, he could have rented it. It is only your assumption that moving away from Kellynch would have been what's best for Anne, this is not a fact. Perhaps staying at Kellynch, which was attractive enough (to Anne) when she was considering Mr. Elliot as a prospect, shows that she would flourish there. It was where she felt safe, and some people flourish where they feel comfortable and safe.
@@Bibirallie In the novel Wentworth is roughly in his early thirties so about 12 years older than Louisa. In Austen's novels there are a few marriages with significant age differences: Emma and George Knightley, Marianne and Colonel Brandon, Colonel and Mrs Forster. The adaptations tend to shy away from these age gaps. During the Napoleonic wars Wentworth would have been an heroic, romantic figure to the Musgrove girls, especially with his association with their wastrel brother. And, IMHO Hinds captured that. He looked like a brave dignified and attractive commander of men. Penry Jones didn't. And that should matter. And re living at Kellynch? I don't think Anne was ever really happy there. It was a place she had to live in but not really a home for her. It was in Bath and Lyme that she came alive. It was Lady Russell who urged Anne to marry her cousin, but that was a price too high for Kellynch. Anne no longer needed Kellynch when she had Wentworth which Austen sort of makes clear in the novel. Persuasion is probably my favourite Austen novel. The Root/Hinds adaptation I think captured its autumnal beauty. My favourite Austen adaptation by far.
The 1995 film is my favourite. Simply because 'the boy' in the 2007 film might be able to sulk decoratively, but was never ever out on sea for a decade as a captain. He looks far too young and unweathered. That's why I'm extremely biased towards Ciaran Hinds. When I saw the 2007 captain, I went into full Lady Russel-Mode and told Screen-Anne: 'THAT one? Dear, drop him. That's no seasoned captain, that's an impostor. There is nothing about that boy that deserves your attention. - If it must be a captain, pick that Harvey, that boy is not worth a single quick step in Bath."
I agree with you 1000%!! I love how the 1995 adaptation is the most loyal to the book, but the emotions that the 2007 adaptation brings makes it my favorite!! 😍🤗❤
I love the 1995 version. It's so subtle! Ciardan Hines is amazing!
I second that! Bring on Sense and Sensibility and Pride and Prejudice!
He was good in a Thomas hardy adaptation the mayor of casterbridge
I do prefer the 1995 version to the 2007 one, but that is largely due to that repressed longing the actors have together. Just the intensity of their eye contact. So. Good. But the 2007 one is fun.
That longing makes their kiss that much sweeter. In 1995 the very tall Wentworth bent down to kiss the much shorter Anne. I believe it symbolizes her complete vindication in his eyes.
Ok. The circus showing up is rather weird and incongruous. I really don't get it. Even after 26yrs.
I loved the rest of the world moving on round them while they only exist for each other. They are still while the circus parade brings excitement.
I remember, as a very small child,a circus parade walking from the train station through my town. It was so exciting I was determined to go and see the show. Great advertising.
Sally Hawkins really was wonderful as in the 2007, but I like the 1995 better, too. The ending is much better, and as hot as Rupert Penry Jones was, Ciaran Hinds was wonderful. More weathered and believable.
@@amysbees6686 I think that they wanted to show that even amid chaos their Love is steadfast and calm. Also, they only have eyes for each other and nothing can now persuade them to deviate from this love bubble
@@amysbees6686 I think it was meant to show how the noise and busyness of the world around them can't touch their love and the world they will build together - but yeah, it was kind of jarring. Not as bad by a long shot as the marathon of bath and the hungry bird kiss, but you can be a lot better than those and still not be great.😉
It's funny I have the completely opposite reaction from you between the 2007 and 1995. I preferred the 1995 version. I felt Sally Hawkins was just a little too nervous and angsty. I found the supporting cast from the 1995 memorable. Particularly Sophie Thompson as Mary and Sam West as Mr Elliot.
That kiss in the 2007 version was just too goofy for words
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It’s like she’s begging to be kissed and he was reluctant to 😂
Flashback to 1990s. You read about a wonderful production of Jane Austen's Persuasion that is coming to the home video market. This means rent it from the movie rental place because the price to buy a new non-mainstream release would be too expensive to buy. So you get in the car and drive across town only to find they don't have the movie. And they only put out new releases on certain days and so if they get it, it could be another week. So back in the car the next week and the next and they finally have it! And they only had one copy and someone else got there first. Which means going back every few days for a few weeks waiting for it to be returned until you manage to snag the one cassette they have. The work you used to have to put into getting your hands on a movie that was not yet "priced for home sales" took patience and determination so at least in my case no other production could ever mean so much as the hard to come by 1995 version of the film.
In Persuasion, I always felt the word for Anne was Duty. Her sense of duty to her family and to others as a child of the prominent family in the neighborhood was what drove her. Her duty to marry well was what made her sway to the opinion of those of rank. The modern tendency To present this as a wishy-washy character is to do her a disservice and removes an entire layer from her personality. It also removes a layer of pain that she has when Wentworth sees this sense of feminine duty as an personal affront and not a conscious choice not to marry for her family’s detriment. She chose not to be selfish to her own detriment. It was not a blind listening to Lady Russell as even some of the book characters present.
Agree. What is lost as well from modern views of this era is that 'romance' was quite a 'modern' idea at this time. Ann's mother and Lady Russel would not have married for 'love'. They made 'good matches'. They would have hoped that given time, hard work and a little luck they could have formed fond, companionships with their husbands. Marriage was the only job a woman of her social class could have, the only income, the only form of individuality, the only way to have a say in her life, the only means of achieving fireedom, a meaningful future and her pension. A bad marriage (think of Lydia and Wickham in P&P) made for the wrong reasons was a social, financial and possibly family suicide. Wentworth was a young man, of an unknown family, no money to keep a wife and few prospects engaged in a career which would see him leave his wife for years at a time, and likely to kill him. Not marrying Wentworth - was not bad advice! It was the advice that a sensible, dutiful daughter of a gentleman should listen to. The true pathos and heart break of the story - is that for all the good advice, it turned out that it was the wrong advice.
Exactly. Totally agree.
Exactly
It is strongly hinted that had she married Wentworth he might not have had the career in the navy he enjoyed. The heartbreak drove him to sea, even though the first ship he was offered was all but a suicide trap. Anne concludes that her decision might have been right or wrong depending on how things had turned out either way.
@@claireforrest2157 beauty of the story is that life and fate had them coming together at the end. After all the sorrow and separation, it is a wonderful, happy ending.
I would add that Anne, while reserved and resigned to put others before herself is extremely capable. Keeping her cool in any emergency; while everyone else freaks out is like her super power. The most likable aspect of her character. She presents as a doormat for everyone but she is really the take charge leader. She takes charge of the families expenses when it hits a dire level, she takes charge of the care of her nephew when he is dangerously injured and like wise Louisa. She does most of this while she is herself in a long term depression.
great comment
Exactly!!! I would LOVE to see a version where SHE is shown as the STRENGTH in her ridiculous family! That she has run of the household (even though Elizabeth believes it is herself), as seen when they need to pack, deal with the tenants and creditors, find a place to move, etc… and the Steward has worked all of this out with Anne ahead of time. She ultimately called it off and refused Wentworth because she was persuaded by Ms Russell that her family could not “survive” without her, and that it would ultimately destroy her family and her sisters prospects for marriage. She had such strength, yet it was always behind the scenes.❤
Amanda Root was the best Anne 😭✨ and Ciaran the best Capt. Wentworth
I love them too. Ciaran is the only Captain Wentworth for me. Wentworth was my husbans second name actually. But I also like the Anne in 2007 as well.
Ciarán Hines is a brilliant actor and the homeliest hero I’ve ever seen. His is my favorite Persuasion.
Love Ciaran as Wentworth!! Definitely can picture him on thr deck of a ship of the line during an action, roaring out orders to his crew!
In total agreement.
@@TheSuzberry He may not have conventional good looks but he was as sexy in that movie as any hero has *ever* been.
One part I absolutely adore with the 2007 adaption, is when Captain Wentworth introduces Anne to Harville, and Harville knows exactly who she is and what she has been to his good friend. We see that Wentworth has told Harville about Anne at some previous time, which shows us a lot, both about Harville and Wentworth's friendship, and about how deeply hurt Wentworth has been by his relationship with Anne. (Wait a minute, you're Miss ANNE Elliot?! Dude!) But I have to vote for the 1995 as my favorite - it just gets Anne and Wentworth so perfectly.
Yes! I love that moment too! It says so much in so few words.
I thought I liked the 2007 one more, but recently went back to watch the 1995 one, and boy! it gave me ALL the feels!! It was pretty amazing! but I really like both the adaptations tho...
Love the 2007 version better. Anne Eliot 2005 version looks 40 and it's hard to imagine her as 27. I know she's supposed to be faded but the book did not mention she aged two dacades
1995 version is one of my favorite movies. Little known fact that the actress may who played Lady Russell, Susan Fleetwood, was Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac’s sister who sadly passed away in 1995. She was a brilliant actor. If you can find it, she was in a great mini series called Summer’s Lease in 1989.
I saw her as Rosalind in As You Like It. She was brilliant in it.
Thank you!
The 2007 version has my heart. It really evokes the longing, yearning for a do-over, and regret that both parties hold. I also found it to be far more intimate. Having Anne vocalize her thoughts through a journal made it seem like you knew her, like you were her closest confidant rooting for her.
1995 is wonderful.Capitan Wentworth and Anne are perfect.
I first and saw and fell in love with the 1995 version (because I'm old). I didn't like the 2007 version as much when I first saw it, but enjoyed it more on subsequent viewings. I enjoyed some of the things you called out (the change in cinematography as Anne gains confidence) and I do like the cast a lot. But Amanda Root (you talk about Sally Hawkins' eyes but Amanda Root's eyes are so perfectly communicative as well) and Ciaran Hinds are simply so perfect. I just feel the longing and the suppressed love and the pain so much, but it's so subtly beautiful.
That said, I'm so thrilled to have TWO such perfect adaptations that I can watch over and over and enjoy them both so very much. When I was young, Emma was my favorite. Then Pride & Prejudice. But now that I'm older and can appreciate it more, it's Persuasion. It's just so perfect, and both of these adaptations are so amazingly well done.
BTW, are you ever going to do Pride & Prejudice and Sense & Sensibility? I'm sure we're all waiting!
So glad to hear I am not the only one to watch it over and over. The music, cadence and lighting of the 2007 version do me in every time, but the other versions do draw out different aspects of the charming novel...
I've only seen the 1995 adaptation and fell in love with it. I love the entire movie and especially Root and Hinds. I've seen that one so many times and have no desire to even watch another version.
I understand what you mean! No need to try to improve on perfection
I grew up watching the 1995 version, and love it, and when the 2007 version came out, I could barely get through it. 🫣
Wentworth dropped his writing powder. And yes, it’s a great scene. The ‘95 is definitely my fav. I thought Sophie Thompson & Phoebe Nichols were spot on as the sisters and absolutely fell in love with Admiral & Mrs. Croft. I liked that Anne was rather plain too, like she really had “lost her bloom.” Made her very believable and relatable. It’s also a very beautiful film. That opening scene of the water & the gorgeous score, then the final tag on the ship with the Italian art song during the credits. A truly lovely film!
I loved how she started off plain, but her looks did improve throughout the movie. It was done so subtly.
@@ebriggs3498 I loved them as a couple, partly because, although neither is bad looking, neither is gorgeous. They’re like everyday people. SO many great moments also of telling looks & expressions that say so much without saying a word. Wentworth watching Benwick and Anne and that gem of a moment betw. him, W Elliot, and Anne on the inn steps in Bath. Brilliantly done film, I thought!
Phoebe Nichols was not spot on as Elizabeth. Elizabeth in the book was cold, unpleasant and selfish. However there was no indication in the book that she was slothful, vulgar and shriekish.
@@starwood213 In my opinion. I have been known to be occasionally wrong. 😉
Yes the music is such an important part of it!! And you can’t buy the soundtrack- I’ve tried! 😢
My favorite version is the 1995. I haven’t read the book, but I love the 1995 film.
To be honest I related a lot to Anne. I used to be extremely shy and quiet.
I like everything about the 1995 version. It just makes so much sense. Anne is rational but also very insecure.
She’s made mistakes and she’s ashamed and basically realizes that she doesn’t have any friends either-no one who really cares about her after “becoming a spinster” essentially. However instead of lashing out she takes the cruel comments and treatment because she knows ultimately that it was her fault for rejecting the man she loved just because her family told her to (basically choosing money and listening to people she knew didn’t really love her as they should) and she quietly starts to make amends, she starts doing the right thing.
That’s why she cannot be a Lizzy Bennet or Emma-it’s because her story is actually basically one of repentance, she’s literally the character who chose money and rank over true love. Whereas Elizabeth and Emma did not make that mistake.
Anne has always been insecure of herself and looks for safety, but that actually led to her misfortune. Whereas Elisabeth and Emma are not looking for safety but are naturally confident and aren’t really that concerned about losing their wealth/their safety so much. Emma’s just wealthy with no worries of that. Elisabeth is already not wealthy and she does have a little bit of fear of being even worse off, but she’s naturally strong willed.
Anne is the character who was born into wealth and rank, and she’s naturally shy and insecure. She fell in love with a man who had nothing and unfortunately because she’s afraid and naturally always been insecure (probably compounded by her family being the type to compare others and nitpick everything) she runs away back to “safety.”
But, then only much later realizes that basically pursuing what appears to be safe actually isn’t-that basically life, that whatever is meaningful in life, does involve some risk. And that you have to be brave sometimes.
well, elizabeth bennet’s love interest happens to be very rich, so she doesn’t actually face a dilemma like pre-novel anne elliott. no bravery required there
I definitely prefer the 1995 version. The actors have such a believable chemistry. You can almost feel the agony and the joy at the end. Hands down, my favorite
The item that Captain Wentworth drops in the 1995 film is the sand container. They would use this to sprinkle sand or some other dry substance to blot up the excess ink after writing, so they could then fold up and seal the letter without the ink smearing onto other parts of the letter.
Persuasion is my favourite austen novel for a myriad of reasons. But primarily I just think it's so romantic that these two people manage to find their second chance at happiness. My personal favourite version is the 1995 miniseries. I think the casting and acting is just **chefs kiss**. I enjoyed the 2007 version but the things you loved - like Anne running around Bath like a crazed person and the super slow kiss (with some hints of saliva 🙈) - those were the things I really disliked. It just didn't do it for me.
Enjoyed this series though!
@@FullofLit Same actually. I hardly ever read them in general, but Persuasion is just so good!
I agree
For me, Persuasion '95 is virtually perfect. I don't love the characterization of Elizabeth, and I'm not really sure why they changed Mr. Elliot's motivations, but other than that, I can't think about anything I don't love. 1971 is so bad it's funny, but 2007 makes me laugh AT it, not WITH it. The disgusting kiss, having Anne run around Bath and having Wentworth buying Kellynch are all just ridiculous ideas. '95, however, is beautiful, funny, heart-breaking and poignant. Persuasion has everything.
No lady, back then, would be running around like she's trying to put out a fire all by herself. And then, to tack on how to close-off the Ms. Smith sub plot was terrible. Just as bad as the 70s . . . ugh.
@@JamieRobles1 I think the 2007 version is way worse than the 70s version. In the 70s, it was perfectly normal to do these uber-faithful adaptations without any creativity at all, and this one fit the mold. But the 2007 one was just a steaming pile of poo IMO because a lot of the stuff they did seemed to come out of left field - no rhyme or reason at all. And, frankly, if you need to do a ton of mental gymnastics to make something make sense, it's a waste of time.
In the 1995 version, Captain Wentworth drops a can of pounce, which was "used both to dry ink and to sprinkle on a rough writing surface to make it smooth enough for writing." 🙂
I can say that I saw all the versions. I think the best of all is the one from 1995, with MAGNIFICENT performances. Ciaran Hinds is a sea captain, battle-hardened and obviously devastated by lost love, but I think he is the dashing Wentworth that Jean Austin would illustrate. Amanda Root so sweet, she is the perfect Anne, her looks say more than a thousand words. This version for me is the most exquisite, not only because of the interpretations that I think elevate the film a lot, but because of the wonderful dialogues, as shown by the evolution of the protagonists, of the frivolous society and its treatment of Anne. The anthology scene is not only the kiss at the end, so delicate, the best is when Captain Wentworth asks his father for Anne's hand in front of everyone, the looks of both and their smiles ... are sublime. I change the version of 2007 Sally Hawkins did not finish convincing me and Rupert Penry-Jones does not look like a sailor, rather a gentleman of high society.
omg - when Cpt Wentworth asks for Anne's hand and her father says "why?"!!!
Can I say something about the 1995 costume choices tho! The 2007 plays it with colours and shades all over the place but the 1995 was very much on point! The Musgrove sisters and Mary's red capes over flowy, white cotton dresses making a sharp contrast to Anne's bland, dark moss green and grey velvet pieces is just... chefs kiss.
Your enthusiasm for Austen adaptations is so lovely :)
I agree! I very much preferred and gravitated to the 2007 version. The facial expressions, the anguish, her regret of choice. Wonderfully portrayed by Sally Hawkins. Rupert James was the most eye candy version of Captain Wentworth. I myself fell in ❤️ with him. His pain and anger was done to perfection. I found my self routing for them both. Although the running scene was drawn out, my heart was racing with Anne’s through the streets of Bath. Anne loved and cherished her childhood home of Kellyrich Hall, more so than her self absorbed father and sister. So I found it befitting that Wentworth bought it for her, however inaccurate the ending was. 2007 hails as my favorite and I will not waiver.
The Persuasion (2007) adaptation has me in a chokehold. That movie is so fucking moving I can't-
Jane would not have used the "F" word!
@@minimaker5600I agree 😂
Totally agree on the 3 supporting cast members you picked out, particularly Mary. Liked them about equally until the last 15 minutes but much prefer 1995 after that. The way they do the letter is brilliant and I like the idea of them sailing off to sea together as an ending more than going back to the country estate.
Also the ship scene for me symbolised her becoming a partner to his life and also expanding her own horizons, literally and figuratively. A bit like Jane Eyre. Also sorry but HATE the slow kiss, drove me bonkers haha!
@@FullofLit I felt like she was so stuck before and no one expected anything from her (like Mary being shocked that she had things to do that kept her away from Mary). And her family cared so much about appearances that they never explored or did anything, they just played cards. But she finds something exciting and gets to go have adventures and not be delicate. It felt right and made me happy. :)
I was introduced to persuasion through the 2007 version and I do love it (the soundtrack when she's looking at old letters kills me) but 1995 is superior and I adore those versions ❤ ♥
I prefer Sally Hawkins in 2007, but Ciaran Hines knocks it out of the park - just a better actor than the other Wentworth (can't remember actor's name)
Persuasion is getting a new adaptation with Henry Golding and Dakota Johnson I hope Daria does a review when the movie comes out.
when is that?
Ive seen some pics of it, and it looks like they are gonna ruin it by making it look like Bridgerton. 😭😭😭🤢🤢🤮🤮
I would prefer a version in mini series form as movies rush/skips important to the plot.
Dakota is portraying Anne and Cosmo Jarvis is portraying Captain Wentworth. Henry Golding is portraying the dirt-bag Mr. Elliot.
Saw the trailer. It looks godawful. Luckily I dumped Netflix a while back so I won’t be tempted to watch.
I am surprised that you thought the minor characters in the 1995 version were not memorable. I was amazed when I first saw it, how many characters stood out as distinct and (usually) lovable - only the two Musgrove sisters were interchangeable. I loved the Admiral and especially Mrs Croft, Mary was funny without being completely ridiculous and Mrs Smith and her nurse were unforgettable.
Amanda Root was perfect as Anne, initially solemn and plain, but regaining her glow as she overcame her initial fear of re-meeting Captain Wentworth. Ciaran Hinds was subtle and dignified.
What strikes me most about this adaptation is the quietness of the central characters, like the eye of a storm while the hurricane of the other characters rage around them. This is why I disliked the later version so much. Anne changes from a refined, inward, sensitive character to one who spends most of her time running around (which may not be a huge personal flaw) or crying (which is a distinct turn-off.) The scene where Wentworth confessed his love for Anne to another character undercuts the tension of the will he/won't he ending (we already know her thoughts) in the later version, and I was surprised on re-reading the novel to find that it was included. By omitting this scene in 1995, the suspense remains until the end,
So, for me, it is 1995 all the way with the glorious cast of characters and especially the luminous Anne of Amanda Root.
Three performances I really, really liked were Sophie Thompson as Mary (really helped me to understand the character), Susan Fleetwood as Lady Russell, and Fiona Shaw as Mrs. Croft. I also really liked Corin Redgrave as Sir Walter.
@@elizabethneill3825 I agree completely. Even though Susan Fleetwood’s Lady Russell was not Austen’s Lady Russell I think she played a more contemporary, less snobbish version we can all believe meddled out of a motherly concern for the younger Anne. I also liked Fiona Shaw’s Mrs. Croft but what was up with the two supporting actress’ short hair?!? There weren’t any period wigs available?
Sophie Thompson was exactly my vision of Mary and Ciara Hinds was just freakin’ smokin’.
This was superbly written- I agree with every word- bravo! 👏👏
Thank you!
I thought the woman who played Mary was superb.
I'm so glad I found this channel! My people! lol One of the things I really enjoyed about the 2007 version was when Wentworth began doing little things to *force* Anne to allow someone to take care of her. She falls, and while others may be waiting for her to pull herself up - which she absolutely would have - there he is, gently lifting her. When she protests the carriage ride, she insists she's fine and someone else should take it, and there's Wentworth, just over her relentless selflessness, plucking her up and plonking her down. lol The jump and fall injury when Anne immediately takes charge, and he just looks at her in a bit of awe, then later basically rescues her from the chaos that is Mary by asking her to come with him to deliver the news. That was two fold, as he realized he wanted and needed her there to help him. It's such a great adaptation, though truthfully I enjoy all of them for their own special reasons.
Just a bit of random observations to add:
A sad fact about the 1995 version is that the studio that released the vhs thought the two leads were not attractive enough to draw audiences and so the cover art replaced them with very attractive models. I know because that’s actually how I first saw this film and was surprised when Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds appeared as Anne and Wentworth as they were not who were pictured.
I believe what he dropped in the letter scene was a shaker-type ink blotter.
The 1995 version is my favorite, and one of the most memorable scenes is actually a tiny one wherein Anne, when meeting Wentworth again for the first time at Charles and Mary’s house, seems to be relatively calm, but the camera pans in on her hands, and the audience sees her desperately gripping the back of a chair she stands in front of as she tries to control her emotions.
You are correct in your observation that Wentworth would not be able to buy Kellynch Hall. It was entailed to the male heirs and was done so as a way to protect and keep the property from being sold by wastrel heirs like Anne’s father who, no doubt, would have sold pieces of it or the entire estate to pay off his debts if he could.
He could be renting it out though because her father needs the money. I took it as he was renting, they probably could for a long time even after Elton inherited because all he wanted was the baronacy and he could take the title but not live at the house. I am sure he would be in London to show off. Just my thoughts.
OMG, I can't believe that they were changed by models...this is crazy. They are so perfect as Anne and Wentworth. I think the movie would've been huge success if it was launched in the cinemas at the time.
I just googled to find the VHS cover - atrocious but amusing.
Replaced by models?!
That's...that's...what the ACTUAL duck. Root and Hines were both perfectly good-looking. Also, how insulting to the actors, to the spirit of the story. WHO thought that would be a good idea?! HOW do you even bring that up? "Hey, guys, listen, screw this moral crap, the public just want hot, hot, HOTTER! Yeah, have the dude kiss her neck, now give 'Anne' a lil' bit of cleavage! Cor! That's better!"
...*shudder*
Guess the marketing dept. was full of the kind of people our heroine disliked -- all about misleading appearances for financial gain over any kind of finer feeling.
I wonder whether Cousin Elliott's ill behavior--running off with Elizabeth's gf Mrs Clay, for example--could not have entered into the situation regarding his inheritance. Strings could be pulled. Dr Octavia Cox assures us in some circumstances a female inheritance could be arranged.
decidedly, I prefer Persuasions 1995, but in one thing you’re really right: the fact that we don’t know what Anne really thinks and that in addition, her look is so expressive makes Anne an...independent person. This is indeed altogether contradictory. Thus, I realize why I love Anne Elliot 1995 from the beginning: because I see a sovereign woman, who seems to be beyond the stupidity and insensitivity of her family and who knows why she reacted to her beloved donut in such a way and not in another. She may suffer, but she remains sovereign. In this sense Anne Elliot of 2007 is much more credible as an evolving character.
Love your content and expression. 💖
sally Hawkins as Anne was absolute perfect!
I'm a 1995 fan just because I feel it so perfectly encapsulates the spirit of the book as well as those "blink and you miss them" moments that Austen describes, like glances between people and tiny details, like Mr. Elliot admiring Anne's beauty in Lyme and Captain Wentworth noticing his admiration of her. I don't like how Elizabeth is such a grump, but Sir Walter is properly ridiculous and Mary is excellent. But you've given me a lot of food for thought about the Sally Hawkins one! The marathon and weird kiss were very off-putting for me, but I will watch it again with a fresh perspective!
I love this “adaptation series”concept!!
I completely agree with all your choices and the reasons for your choices!! Especially Sally Hawkins. Her eyes showing pain, love and longing in one one glance at Frederick. And her voice when he’s around. 😢
Plus you’re right in Regency time her sprinting around ( and kissing - THAT KISS 😍) would’ve been so scandalous, but I think it’s needed to show she doesn’t care what others think if it means she loses Wentworth.
I rewatch that adaptation every month because of the two leads.
I had to watch this again after watching the Netflix film. Thank you for reminding me why I love the 2007 version s much!
I love love love the 2007 version -- glad it made your top spot!
I love the 2007 version! The excitement and feels. So great!
I loved that you described Anne Elliott as a side character in any other novel but wasn't the only heroine Austen wrote who would have been a side character in any other novel. Catherine Moreland is a sweetheart but Eleanor Tilney is the character whose cruel father separates her from the man she loves like a true gothic heroine and Emma's Jane Fairfax has a secret engagement that will lift her and her family out of poverty- Emma herself is just an obnoxious neighbor. Taking "side" characters and showing them grow internally is a great trick of hers. Anyway, 1995's Persuasion is the best and now I have to fight you.
I really loved your breakdown, so glad I found your channel!
The 2007 version was the first one I watched years ago, at the time I found it charming but on rewatching yesterday I found it all a bit drab and humourless. I can appreciate the artistic intent behind the greyish, dull colour palette but having watched the 1995 version for the first time the night before, it really threw into sharp focus how different the two versions are, how funny and rich and vibrant the 1995 is by comparison without losing any of Anne and Wentworth’s pain and longing.
I actually don’t mind 2007 Anne pegging it through Bath looking for Wentworth, I think it’s quite moving and is supposed to emphasise how desperate she is to return his affections this time around, she is “quite determined”. The salivary kiss though for me is unforgivable 😅 it just pushed the suspension of disbelief too far. At least in the 1995 version it’s more like a gentle little peck whilst the whole town is distracted by the circus, which I can kind of get on board with?
Also, whyyyy did the 2007 Persuasion mess with the format of Captain Harville & Anne’s touching convo about who loves the longest leading to Wentworth writing his beautiful letter?! It’s such an important moment in the plot, Wentworth feeling upset, impassioned, frustrated and more in love with Anne than ever; and he just has to put pen to paper to get it out of his system! That was lost in 2007 and it’s such a shame.
Sally Hawkins was a very understatedly beautiful Anne though which seemed right and Rupert Penry Jones was suitably dashing as Wentworth, so I’ll give them that ❤
My favorite is also the 2007 version! The way it's filmed really conveys her grief and anxiety around everything happening around her.
Persuasion is one of my favourite novels of all time, and it deserves so much more attention! I'm so happy you're covering it in some way, I loved hearing your opinions about the movies 🥺💗
What really, REALLY, bothers me about the 2007 version is that Sally Hawkins' Anne is ... a mouth breather! Drove me insane! Kept wanting to close her mouth the whole time. That to me was a deal breaker. I found she practically had the same frightened-deer expression throughout. The movie was very good in general, but no match for the 1995 version. The Wood/Hinds combo for me was perfection itself. Also, in my opinion all the characters were well portrayed in that movie, and the cinematography was gorgeous as was the soundtrack. A pure delight. Thank you so much for this series. I too a-do-re Austen! You're great! I found you by chance and I'm subscribing to your channel.
It's amazing but I completely agree with 100% of what you say! This is the third video of yours that I watched, two of them being the battle series. It's not so much that I agree with the orders you place the adaptations. It's your reasoning, your opinions of book vs. film/TV, and your ideas of what's important for a period drama that I've been thinking about but fail to adequately put into words. 2017 Persuasion is one of my favourite period drama of all time. I love it that you said, in one of the videos I've watch, that Anne is not opinionated and she would never judge people out loud. In this adaptation, instead of speaking out loud, Sally Hawkins looks into the camera to express her opinion of the ridiculousness of the situation. That is genius! And it's very astute of you to point it out. 2020 Emma is another of my favourite period drama for the precise reasons you said in the other video. In my opinion, both of these two adaptations are perfection. I wondered if you've seen 2004 BBC North and South, and what do you think of it? It's another one of my favourite period drama of all time. Oh, what the heck, I'll just list them here since I've already mentioned most of them anyway: 1995 Pride and Prejudice (for sentimental reason), 2004 BBC North and South, 2017 Persuasion, and 2020 Emma. Brilliant adaptations, except maybe for the 1995 Pride and Prejudice but I'll never take it off the list no matter what!
Please your videos are so underrated 😭 I love your content
I agree with your list, please don't ever apologize for your opinions. As much as I enjoyed the 2007 version, I got really distracted with the 4th wall breaking and the ending was very rushed. I think they could have added another 15-20 min for a proper conclusion. Speaking of distractions, seeing Anthony Head without Buffy took a while to get used to!
I honestly just really didn't like the fact that they completely erased Mrs. Smith's disability in the 2007 version, AND how they didn't go at all into more of her backstory like I was hoping they would. That was the only thing I didn't like about the 1995 version, but even then I found the actress who played her so memorable and charming and lovable that the actress who played her in the 2007 version was just utterly forgettable to me.
coming here after watching Persuasion 2022. Hello 4th wall haha
I am right there with you, 2007 is the best version, at least so far. I do love 1995 as well I think of it as a bit more reserved version, its good, but I love Sally Hawkins as Ann and Rupert Penry Jones as Capt Wentworth. I love all those longing glances where as soon as the other looks, they turn away. I love how though he remains resentful and hanging with the two musgrove sisters, he is johnny on the spot when Ann falls, and he is thoughtful enough to get her a ride back with his sister because he knows Ann is injured and limping, just as you mentioned. I love when Wentworth introduces everyone to Capt Harville and says Miss Elliot and Harville knowing full well how much he loved her says “Miss Ann Elliott?” And of course Wentworth speaking of Ann to Harville, as you said. I didn’t like the running quite as much as you did, I thought it was a bit overdone, that would probably be the only flaw to me, but overall, love the 2007 adaptation.
love your insights! my fave version is 1995, but i liked 2007 as well! i think the quietness and subtleness of 1995 suited the story better haha. i tried watching the series, i couldnt finish it ahhh
2007, Sally Hawkins and RP Jones till I die!!! Thank you for this!
2007 version is the one for me too! And exactly for the points you mentioned! It's absolutely heart-wrenching! And I love the DRAMA at the end too! CHEERS
Love your analysis because I agree completely. Some ditz complained about the shaky camera work in the 2007 version but it just added to sharing the shaky internal state of our heroine. Fun fact: Rupert Penry-Jones explained the kiss was not in the original script, they added it. That's why it took so long. So incredibly romantic...
Love your analysis, kudos
A young woman of any class running on the street back in those days was unheard of I think. So 2007 Anne is definitely throwing caution to the wind and is overcome by the urgency of the moment.
But for me Ciaran Hinds is the true Wentworth down to the weather beaten face. His eyes actually shine every time he looks at Anne, even when he’s pissed at her.
And also, it’s probably because of the movies and series I’ve watched, that is I have no background in history and historic appearance, but period pieces always lose me when the hair doesn’t look authentic to the era. It’s really bad when you can tell the decade it was filmed in (as in the ‘70 show). But also when it just looks too simple, as in the 2007 one. I get it, Anne was not vain and didn’t bother with being fashionable, but she was very duty bound and a baronet’s daughter would’ve taken better care of her appearance if only because she’d get a lot of nagging from her family otherwise. I feel the 1995 captured the period better in that regard.
persuasion is my favorite work that I've read by austen so I was super excited when this popped up in my subscription box💜💜
Thank you! I missed this version of Persuasion, and I agree it is wonderful. I went and watched it right away and had to come back and thank you.
My favourite Austen adaptation. There is a fabulous dreamy quality to the images and I love that the sets, lighting, costumes and (lack of) make-up gave it such a feeling of authenticity. It holds up to repeated viewings very well.
My introduction to persuasion (and your channel) was because of the Netflix version, and now I really want to watch that 2007 version!
Girl! Your curls are life giving. I keep telling my hair, "that's what I mean!", every time I style it but for some reason our communication is off. Now onto my more substantial thoughts. The 1995 version was my first introduction to a Persuasion adaptation. As someone who was a bit tepid about the book it really helped me appreciate the finer details of Anne's character. Plus, Ciarán Hinds
can do almost no wrong in my book. Like you though the liveliness of the 2007 adaptation captured my imagination. It felt like a more fully fleshed story as it gave such breath to otherwise somewhat sidelined characters. Sally Hawkins in that version is basically my Ciarán Hinds
. Unfortunately I could not get past the ridiculousness of Anne running through streets after Wentworth. I don't mind some deviation but that really did not make any sense considering the time period. And that slomo kiss just ruined that moment for me. I watched a commentary once and apparently the director was attempting to capture the solitary tear that was running down Hawkins cheek. Poppycock! Wentworth should have snatched her up and kissed her himself instead of forcing her to break her damn neck trying to reach him. With all of his previous hostility it felt like a demeaning dagger to me. Of course if he had snatched her I would have probably been screaming impropriety from the rooftops. So I guess I'm just not enough of a romantic. I'm loving this serious though. I could dissect Austin's work for days.
I appreciate your analysis of these films. I agree with you. Now I want to watch that production again. Thanks for your work.
I‘m so excited to see your video on the Pride & Prejudice adaptations 🤩 btw: your outfit, makeup and hair is ON POINT for this video ☺️
loveeee this series you're doing with Austen adaptations!!
For information's sake the thing Wentworth drops is the sand shaker that they used to dry ink on letters. You can see him blowing the sand off the letter he was writing.
This video made me genuinely happy - your personality, and sheer joy talking about these movies was pure gold ☺ It feels exactly how I feel when I watch these and other similar romance movies. 100% agree with your ranking, even though I'm biased with 2007 as well and have yet to see the other two versions 😆 I just know I would agree with you. You got a new subscriber😁
I loved the scene with putting her on the carriage!! It always cracked me up. I could just imagine him being like "oh my god why are people so terrible to you that I have to be nice to you don't even think about smiling at me."
One appreciates Amanda Root (Anne-1995) all the more after seeing her in The Forsyte Saga, she's a terrific actress. Her Wentworth Ciaran Hinds is very famous and been in so many roles. Incidentally, his Wentworth knocks over the blotting dust container while he's writing to Anne. They sprinkled the dust on their letters to blot the ink.
I was always a bit annoyed with Anne 2007 running through the streets WITH NO HAT!!!
Yes finally someone that gets my love of the 2007 version! ❤️ But I must admit I too am biased because I love the Sally Hawkins and the cast so much. I know the fandom loves the 1995 version but there is just something about the 2007 that grips me and I'm so glad you have the balls to just go with your preference~
I mean 2007 has Rupert Penry Jones….so naturally it has an extra few points! 😍😉
I was so glad when I saw the thumbnail for this video. I am a Jane Austen loverrrrr but have not read all of her novels, but i have seen more of the adaptations lol. Persuasion by far has to be my fave and i am in love with the 1995 version Amanda Root everytime omg. Also Sophie Thompson who played Mary in this version is so funny to me and she is in the 1996 Emma as Ms Bates and lol i just love her
The 2007 version did make me feel all the feelings, but the 1995 one is the first I saw, so it will always have a special place in my heart. Okay, I don't know if this is still the case, but when my family bought the VHS of the 1995 version, we could NOT get over the photograph they chose for the cover? It was two actors who were not in the movie at all sharing a very, very sexy neck kiss with just a ton of cleavage on show??? And all we could think is, like, maybe it's meant to represent young Anne and Wentworth? But mainly it was probably to make people more likely to pick up the tape and buy it. But it was just so jarringly out of sync with the actual movie's content, it always gave me a giggle. Anyone else remember that?
I have that vhs as well. I also have one with the correct actors on it. And a dvd. And own it on Google . Persuasion is my favourite book and the 1995 movie is my favourite movie, not just my favourite Austen adaptation.
I'm surprised to say that I kinda disagree. Personally, I really thought I was going to like the 2007 adaptation better because the quality of the production was clearly superior and the silly characters were not as caricaturised but I was very surprised to find the 1995 better in my opinion. Especially in terms of acting and pacing. I think the 2007 had more content but perhaps it's because of this that it felt like it rushed through some very important key plot points which often lacked a proper set-up, like Louisa's fall, or the scenes about Benwick's grief over Penelope, or Wentworth's compromise with Louisa, I didn't feel the severity of all that in the 2007 as I did in the 1995 one (except the compromise, that scene didn't even exist in 1995 and I don't think it was needed). I feel like all of those relied on dictating through the dialogue what was going on instead of making the audience feel the severity of it. Anne also felt a whole lot more passive in the 2007 film, which is to say a lot for Austen's arguably most passive heroine, although I have to give props to the actress: when she cried, I too cried with her.
The lead actors in 1995 also simply had much better chemistry. The 2007 had the whole discussion between Wentworth and his friend over how he's not over Anne but the 1995 adaptation did not need it at all! The heartbreak and longing could be literally seen with their looks alone!!! I know this might bet a lot of people up in arms, but the way that actor delivered was Alan Rickman level. There, I said it.
I totally agree! Lead actors in 2007 version (I just watched it for the 1st time) are both good, but don't even seem to be in the scenes with each other. It was like they were playing to the camera & not each other at all.
And the supporting characters are fleshed out in 1995 version, with their own stories, & are like carriers for the only 2 characters in the 2007 movie. The 1995 version is THE version for me!
I will admit I've not seen your #1 pick, but I'll still suggest you should have gone with your first instinct. The Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root adaptation is PERFECT, the best Jane Austen adaptation I've seen. Hinds looks and acts like a sea captain, and Amanda looks like a slightly faded near-beauty. She is prettier and more suited to the role than your choice, and the other Captain Wentworth is too young and looks more like a stuck-up baron than anyone connected with the sea.
I couldn't agree with you more. They make a perfect interpretation of what the characters are like. I was literally watching Anne and Wentworth.
I just want to say, I agree! Persuasion 2007 is my favorite!!!
I love the part in the 1995 version when Wentworth is passing Anne into the carriage after that long walk, and his hand on her back ----- ooh, some regency hotness! And yeah, that scene where they're all complaining to Anne.
Girl you are adorable because you love these stories so much.
I love 1995 Persuasion and it is also my favorite of her novels. Amanda Root just goes from gray to glowing by the end as she makes her choices. Her confidence in the card party scenes is just wonderful to see.
My fav is 2007, the undertone is so good! Spot on. Especially I watched right after reading he book.
I haven’t seen any of the adaptations for Persuasion but I love this because now I know where to start! Persuasion was the last completed Austen book I’ve read and it also jumped way up there to my top 3! Great video as always. ❤️
@@FullofLit I did watch the movie (I think it's 2008) and I really liked it! I will be buying it to add to my collection. That actor that played Wentworth was *chef's kiss*
I'm a 1995 ride or die fan ( ;- ), but I do like the way you explain about the 2007 "It just makes me feel the same way as when I read the book." I think that's the most important thing to do in an adaptation, for sure.
I love listening to your opinions. So good! I too love Jane Austen and totally agree that it’s difficult to choose between these two versions but I believe you were correct because of the supporting characters. For some reason I have never been able to get into Mansfield Park. I need to try again. Don’t know why. Love all the others.
Bad choice - 1995 Persuasion was so much better. 2007 Persuasion was millennial. And that running around Bath at the end was seriously awful.
Meanwhile 2022 Persuasion is a car crash.
I think the reason I love Anne so much is because her story is a second chance/Cinderella twist.
Good job - I fully agree with your explanation and rank of the three adaptations
I love Your videos from this series, they are very enjoyable
Just loved this commentary. So totally agree with you ! My favourite Jane Austen .. !!!
10:01 - 😂yes I love these parts if the book too with all the different Musgroves complaining to Anne.💜📚
On point on your analysis on the 2007 version. 1995 version's Anne and Wentworth character seemed to have better on screen chemistry; However, the staging, chaos of her running around, totally out of times, the perfect Phipps sound score, everyone saying, "Anne you look positively done for..." OH the best
I love your insight. For me Amanda Root and Ciaran Hind will always be Ann and Captain Wentworth. The later 2007 version I found disappointing. This heroine I found to be simpering, and not the sort of person a man like like Wentworth would fall in love with.
I prefer the 2007 version, but I totally get what you are saying
I literally love how passionate you are about this. Makes me want to rewatch the 2007 one. 😭. Also this is so random but what lip product are you wearing??? It’s so pretty
The Root & Hinds adaptation is a masterpiece. So well done. I suspect extremely under-appreciated. It’s brilliant.
Loved this review!!! So refreshing
Damn. I love your take on this and the way you talk about the book vs movie. Instant subscribe. I like 1995 better, but I'm still with you. It's hard to choose. 1970s was fun, but completely agree about that one. Wait wait! Outtakes?!? Yaaaaaaas
2007 is my favorite. Not that I don't adore 1995, I do! But I appreciate exactly the same moments you mentioned:
-Wentworth giving a very faint smile at the opportunity to help Anne after she falls from the log
-Anne running so shamefully through the streets after a man!
-heartbroken gaze that Sally conveys (breaks my heart too)
-the convo about Wentworth getting himself tied up with Louisa
-Wentworth hoisting Anne onto the carriage. By the way, I also appreciate the carriage scene in 1995. If I didn't know any better, I would have concluded that Wentworth is just seeking an excuse to grope Anne! 😉😄
-my personal favorite: Wentworth's shattered look melting away as Anne denies the rumours and his expression clears away like a gloomy sky giving way to the sun. Someone in the comments said Rupert isn't as good of an actor as Ciaran, and that's simply false. Demonstratively false.
Your enthusiasm is very charming, even if I disagree with you. Keep up the love of Austen!
Oh, and BTW, I have no idea who you are and had never seen you before yesterday, but you are an absolute doll and your mannerisms are so cute I'll bet half the (few) guys who stop here are in love with you. Keep up the fine work, and thanks for sharing with us.
I loved the 2007 version best but I love how real everyone is in the 95 version. My favorite scene is when they all come back from the walk and they are just sitting around the fire casually drinking tea and lounging around like they went on a huge hike. They are both my favs!