Fallout's Alien Mystery Keeps Getting Weirder
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Since Fallout's beginnings, the franchise has been riddled with strange references to a mysterious Alien civilization from beyond the stars. Today, we investigate this strange extraterrestrial Fallout mystery by exploring the encounters from across the games and specifically, Fallout 76.
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Did nate forget about the last part of the ice burg videos dint we were supposed to get a 5th part
Can you please do a short or something similar about the Lovecraft book pickman's model, it has so many similarities to pickman's gallery
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You left out the most interesting Zetan audio log: One of their victims was a linguist, and she'd nearly cracked their language. This prompted an aggressive reaction from the Zetans. In other words, they are actively preventing any sort of real communication between Zetans and humans, though why is unclear.
It could be because they don’t view humans as a sentient race necessary for communication. To them, we may as well be animals on a lab table
@@painthegreat I'm not gonna stop a cow from trying to talk to me
“ Human thought is so primitive it's looked upon as an infectious disease in some of the better galaxies. That kind of makes you proud, doesn't it?”
he doesn't know anything about the game, he is in a reddit forum somewhere and is just repeating what other people said, I am seeing this more and more, all of these youtubers who talk like their life is fallout, this guys advertising another fuckin game in the description, avoid people like this, you are nothing but a puppet clicking advertisers commercials.
@@cortholiopezorama8879 Macross / Robotech had the right idea I suppose. The ability to love and play music are two of humanities greatest abilities, and are quite infectious as well.
Hubology is a very obvious reference to Scinetology, considering the name of the founder and the fact that he was at one point a science fiction writer. As well as their whole level system. Honestly, it's everything about them. The Emissary references Men in Black as a general concept, since in many versions of the legend, they are sort of non-human agents poorly masquerading as human, much like Homer. The whole affair does remind me of some of the more wacky alien theories like the Twelve Alien Races and the secret agreement between the US government and aliens. Zettans look most similar to the Greys who, in most depictions, have an interest in human genetics and are very invasive in their study methods. The Greys are usually considered at odds with the more benevolent aliens that seek to shepherd humanity.
The men in black is following the myths from the area around Point Pleasant they was first sigthed after the Mothman sigthings
let's not forget that Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones did 2 Men in Black films, where they were government agents trying to prevent civilians from knowing about aliens. As a matter of fact, that weird esoteric tangent he goes on mimics Agent Kay's "You ever just look up at the stars?" bit before the Flashy Thingies you, which is what the Emissary does to the player. The name of the character could be a potential Trek nod, as Avery Brooks's Sisko was known as the Emissary to the Bajorans, but that part might be a stretch.
(I noticed we see both Thetan and Zetan used in FO3, but I have a theory that Thetan got left in by accident and it was a placeholder potentially connecting them to the hubologists more directly.)
Scientology maximum level is OT8. Hubology level 8 as well.
@Scott Wilson when I first learned about Co$ I didn't know enough to see past the name, the oddly specific number of levels was what made me stop and go "wait a sec."
I just came to the comments to say this! The hubologists are 100% the fallout version of scientologists
I love how the active radios at crash sights, with alien language chatter, carries the same energy as "dad yelling at you for screwing up an attempt at paralel parking"
Yeah i was actually thinking the same thing. Parallel parking sucks
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Clearly, the alien did not know how to drive stick.
It actually sounds like a piss-take-ish sort of tribute to the 1990s film, Mars Attacks. Which itself was a piss-take-ish sort of parody of War of the Worlds. But the alien laguage in Fallout DOES sound hella similar to how they talked in that film.
(It's actually a half decent film with a B-movie feel at the same time as having a pretty stellar cast of high-paid acting types like Jack Nicholson, Michael J Fox, Pierce Brosnan and Natalie Portman in it, they even managed to get Tom Jones playing himself in it too!)
@@ZIGZAG12345I love that movie tho FR. Need to rewatch it
From this video, I have the belief that the Zetans aren't unified (they definitely have castes if Mothership Zeta is a valid example), but the different designs of craft and some weaponry suggests factions with diverging technological bases.
I'm just saying people in the same nation have different cars and different guns. Also the alien in fallout 4 is I think what 10 years in the future or 20 after fallout 3? Could be that they just upgraded their ships and weapons. I really want to know more about it y'know.
I definitely agree.
There's also the more simple possibility of the differences in technology simply being caused by the advance of technology over time. Remember, the alien craft and blaster in FO3 were clearly there for quite a while, while the ship in FO4 crashed literally as we were playing. considering how rapidly human technology has changed in the last 50 years, and the fact that the rate of technological advancement grows exponentially as a society advances, it wouldn't be surprising if the differences we noticed were caused by the swift technological advancement of an interstellar society.
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I find that hard to believe, considering that in the morhership zeta dlc, they had humans from up to 500 years before the events of the game, suggesting that their technology seems to have been the same for centuries, so a massive change in just a few years is (imo) unlikely, also the aliens from fo4 appear in 76 too, and that game takes place only 25 years or so after the bombs dropped, more than a hundred years before 4.
I agree with @@chiffoncakeandtea
Imagine a fallout set in Canada and the opposing factions blame each other for a massive explosion that happened years ago. By the end, it’s never officially revealed who caused it but it was just the Lone Wanderer pressing shiny buttons.
Canada doesn't exist in the fallout universe...It was annexed.
@@jeffdroog That doesn't mean it just ceases to exist
@@YoungBuck7912 Yep, exactly lol. What an annexed country in real life becomes (i.e. how it is incorporated into the annexing nation) can certainly vary based on all kinds of factors, not the least of which is the surrounding historical context present in the moment, there's no doubt about that.
In this case from the Fallout universe, the country of Canada had been effectively bullied, disrespected, and exploited by the United States for at least an entire decade prior to the ultimate, horrifically violent annexation. So in no way did the Canadian people want the Americans to be there (they were leaving cities destroyed in their wake, and stealing a ridiculous amount of natural resources to use for the war effort against china, ignoring, suppressing, and crushing protests all the while), let alone be fully stripped of their national sovereignty, dignity, you get the gist. It was not a mutually beneficial relationship, and it wasn't built on trust, mutual respect, solidarity, or fairness. The U.S. government could and should absolutely be classified as having been a truly evil entity, and an irredeemable one by any meaningful metric, starting *at least* ten years before the Great War began and ended in nuclear fire.
With that context, we can look at the result of the eventual _official_ annexation of Canada in 2072, and wholly understand it. Canada didn't stop existing in '72, but oh man I'd bet people would've wished they _had_ been removed from existence every day of that final half a decade before the bombs dropped (I mean literally all protestors including peaceful ones were simply being*shot on sight, sometimes executed publicly on camera,* it's horrifying to imagine)-the Canadian provinces were made U.S. territories, not several states (that each would be entitled to two US senators), not one single state (which would at least give Canada two federal senators and some meager voting representation in Congress, not a commonwealth, territories. No voting power, no say in their own fate, no rights at that point whatsoever, which to be fair was also true for the American citizenry at the time, the democratic era was long gone.
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@@overland1178 Hahaha I feel you
There's actually one more captive log from Mothership Zeta that reveals a piece of lore about the aliens. I can't quite recall the log number off the top of my head at the moment, but there's one where all you hear is intermittent chattering in the Zetan language, by a Zetan, broken by periods of dead silence. However, if you press play on the captive log, then exit out of the Pipboy, and you happen to have subtitles on, the subtitles tell an entirely different story. The periods of silence are subtitled with text implying the the Zetans are using psychic powers to interrogate a human soldier from one of the US military bases that hold America's nukes. The Zetans are attempting to mind control the soldier into revealing the base's launch codes, and he's resisting as hard as he can...but the end of the log implies he actually caves in and gives the codes right after the recording cuts off.
This has been taken by theorists, to imply that the Zetans were the ones who started the Great War.
Thanks for telling us friend
Another thing of note that seems to have been missed is that when the death ray hits earth it looks suspiciously like a mushroom cloud meaning they could have used it to trick someone into thinking they've been nuked.....
that’s really cool 😅😅 thanks for sharing
Hmm, don't like that lol.
Kinda undercuts any bite the setting has left
@@Ezekiel_Allium The details Zebra left out are that A: the dialog is actually fully recorded for that but just isn't called right by the game, and he just says he can feel them in his head, and B: They seem to just want their captives to talk about whatever and he seems to just assume they want the launch codes because they're the single most classified piece of information he has. He starts just repeating his name and rank as an inti-interrogation technique, which seems to be what causes them to get more violent with him, presumably due to him no longer saying anything new.
Seeing the abominations the Zetans made of humans captured, and that they’ve also captured super mutants, I wonder if at any point Zetans messed around with FEV. We’ve seen its effects on humans and animals, but I’m genuinely curious how a Zetan would transform when introduced to it.
FEV was developed from a virus it is hinted was discovered in a downed otherworldly craft.
They may have a natural immunity to it or its what they used to create the abominations
@@SproutTussle seems reasonable.
I wonder if the Americans acquired samples of what would become FEV from the Zetans during either the moon war or other lesser conflicts with crashed Zetans ships.
FEV may have been reverse engineered from a Zetan bioweapon or some sort of Zetan super soldier serum.
humans often die from fev exposure, I can't imagine it going well on the zetans who are VERY fragile.
Despite doing less damage than the F4 version, it’s worth mentioning that F76 is the earliest Fallout Game canonically. The Fallout 76 Blaster could have been the first blaster of that model the Zetans produced, a prototype.
...How would when the game takes place matter for that? All we know is that the blaster was from pre-war, and that means very little when Hub's alien blaster was also pre-war, there's a good chance the one in the Enclave crawler base was pre-war, and presumably the alien weapons technology used to develop the first plasma weapon prototypes was an alien blaster as well.
Honestly, the best arguments for why the FO76 one sucks are it being submerged in water for who knows how long, and any tinkering that could have been done to it in attempts to learn more about it.
But the blaster design from Nuka World? That's pre-war with the same design as fallout 3. At least 25 years pre-Fo76
I'm not sure there's only one species or faction of alien. The two blasters could be from different species or ethnicities of aliens too.
It does less damage because they need to balance a multiplayer game
i think the 76 is so shit because it was literally just underwater for like 50 years
It's always geat to see TheEpicNate revisit old subjects he once theorized and researched on in our recommendeds, especially ES and FO's most mysterious content. Nate, your videos will never get old.
Yep I've been binge watching his videos and rewatching them to be honest I don't know why but he is a great narrator and researcher
It is *how* it is done socially is it not? I agree.
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Something of note: A lot of the creatures from the Cthulhu Mythos, including Cthulhu himself, are technically aliens, so the Dunwich storyline could have more overlap with the Zetans than the few spots we're shown.
Also Quetzel maybe a corruption of Quetzalcoatl, which is related to Aztec culture but also Mormonism. With a character named Trevor Moorman, I'm sure it's not a coincidence that Bethesda maybe were trying to make a link here. Plus Quetzalcoatl has parallels with Lovecraft's Yig.
@@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968 there are connections with Jack Parsons too and the fact that greys are just demons as represented by Crowley in his "LAM" sketch
Yeah, there is a "planet" Quetzal (theorized zetan planet but it was presumably a made up planet by the scientology guy in fallout4) but also a love craftian being called quetzal both in fallout so I dont think you are far off in that assumption
@@blaketfg9374 Wasn't there the Hubologist ESS Quetzel spaceship?
@@cmdr.jabozerstorer3968 Yeah, it was the ship meant to take them to planet quetzel
The Emissary is a clear nod to the MiB film franchise. J's elder predecessor asked a similar question before asking K to neuralize him.
They added aliens to fallout shelter. And also assaultron weapons. Thought that was pretty weird. Wonder if the next fallout will have a bigger focus on aliens.
The one thing ive always wondered is what happened to the second mothership on the mothership zeta dlc. When we destroy the enemy mothership, it blows up as it starts to crash into the earth around the Michigan region. Over time it shrinks until you cant see it anymore indicating it may have made impact. Thats a whole alien mothership just lying out in the wasteland somewhere.
If it was YOUR MOTHERship, it would be so big that it would never shrink it in the distance.
That's really hopeful thinking on your part that Bethesda would remember that in a future FO property.
Would love to get a Fallout game *not* on a coastline.
@@LexIconLS new vegas?
@@LexIconLS play the one that is the most popular and you get that lol
You missed a location, though I think its a random encounter. But near the location where moira sends you to monitor the mirelurks there's a statue. If you go there, there's a chance for 'something' to explode in the air, and a bunch of alien rounds to scatter arround the area, as well as the fire lancer, which is a variant of the alien blaster.
That random encounter is a true random encounter. It can happen at any random encounter location in Fallout 3.
I had it happen twice. Once in the North of the map, and another South of Little Lamplight.
I believe that is a random event that can happen in a few different locations (like the other random events) but yeah, thats definitely worth a mention too!
@@Gilhelmi I only found the lance when I attacked some raiders at the super duper mart and one of em was carrying it.
very much just a random event.
have seen that thing drop all over the map... (only got it 4-5 times over the years myself.)
@@PaidInBoredom event probably happened there. The AI is programmed to pick up better weapons.
But that would be hilarious to see.
Interesting aside... Zeta Reticuli was a star system that we were unaware of when Betty drew that map. Her map was actually used to find the zeta reticuli system.
As I understand it, it wasn't used to find it, but one of the scientists who discovered it thought it looked familiar, then realized why. He checked the map against what they'd found, and sure enough, it matched up.
I want to believe 😂
@@burninsherman1037that's still pretty impressive
@@Lily-ge4tm more so, I'd say. She had an accurate map of a star system before it had even been looked at.
There’s a lot of alien lore through history that references zeta reticuli, makes you think
Just to add to the giddy up butter cup lore, willson atomatoys didnt make the toy for zetans, its one of their own robot spy/attack drones, the little girl you meet in game that saves you actually got to see these toys do a test fire on a civillan in an audio log. What you dont realise, its the zetans were the ones that made the toy, gave the design to the company to sell and produce it, and remote control the units so they can identify any humans that they had an interest in to abduct or were a threat that needed to be terminated.
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For someone who doesn’t play a lot of RDR2 and GTA V he absolutely knocked it out of the park for his first time dipping into the Rockstar Universe. I hope we can get some more content for GTA and RDR2 but I’m perfectly content with Fallout lore even though I don’t have any of the titles currently lool
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Did he realize that the hubologists are supposed to be scientologists?
I’m sure, but he didn’t want to get slammed by those cultists. They are sue-happy.
@richard7199 I think they stopped suing after Matt and Trey made them into total laughing stocks in the early 2010's they haven't tried any major lawsuits after that
@@axelreboot8475this wouldn’t be a major lawsuit, may be wrong but I feel like I remember them suing TH-camrs after.
Nope lol, it's kinda hilarious. Like does this dude really know nothing about what fallout is referencing?
Obviously he did. Ironic that people are jumping on him.
Scientology sues.
Cmon guys....
Hey Nate, there's a random encounter in FO76 with an NPC walking around with an eyebot that is making the alien transmission sounds to a rhythm. I think it sounds like a sort of Zetan music radio. You should take a look at it, I'd love to hear your take.
Zetans listen to Kanye, Travis Scott & C.Tangana.
The Emissary gave me immediate Men in Black vibes. He says he’s met you before because the white flash is the little device they have that erases your memory. He even says “if you’ll look right here” before the flash. Also tracks with him being an enemy of invading aliens.
Indeed, and the voices on the Zeta Radio channel really sound a lot like the Aliens from the movie "Mars Attacks!".
Pretty Sure that is his whole deal in this, a MIB reference. And adding to that Homer he could just be another MIB agent, they do have Aliens from all kinds of races in their ranks and him trying to fit in or make it easier for you to "trust" him would explain his weird behaviour.
The Men in Black movies are loosely based on actual stories of "men in black" related to aliens/UFOs. They're often very strange in behavior and appearance, ranging from just a little off normal to very eerie and inhuman, though sometimes they're just people who seem to be acting "fake" and give vague ID details. They show up at people's houses to collect UFO evidence (which is then never seen again, the agency/org. they claimed to work for has never heard of them etc.) or to interview witnesses. Often the stories involve memory of a bright flash of light after which they don't remember what happened or where the men in black went. Sometimes men in black also follow people in cars, or show up semi-randomly in remote places but wearing nice clothes and still behaving strangely.
Whether they're against the aliens or not varies. They're usually supposed to be with the government or they claim to be, but they're always covering up alien stuff. In some stories the government is supposed to be against the aliens, in some they're working with the aliens, in some there are good and bad aliens that work with different humans, but the MIBs are pretty much always bad. In some stories they're implied to be aliens in disguise, or some creation of the aliens disguised as humans. Sometimes when they're in remote areas they get in and out of UFOs, like a UFO will drop down in the woods and a guy in a suit will walk out alone before the UFO takes off lmao.
I'd recommend looking up some of the stories, plenty on youtube. The Men in Black movies are fun but they're only related to the original stories in superficial ways.
@@Bane_questionmark Very familiar with them actually. The use of the white flash to represent the neuralyzer seemed like a direct reference to the movies though.
Should be noted that The Forecaster is meant to be a Psyker, a term for Fallout's people with mutations that give them psychic powers. It is the same effect as the Master, some of his followers in the Cathedral, Melchior and Hakunin from Fallout 2, Bloomseer Poplar and The AntAgonizer in Fallout 3 (and possibly Professor Calvert, it's not clear if his abilities come from tech or native psychic abilities), Mama Murphy from Fallout 4 (again, possibly Lorenzo as well, it's not clear whether his supernatural powers are a Psyker mutation or entirely a result of his encounter with the eldritch or his helmet), hell there's even a whole tribe of them in Fallout Tactics, the Beastlords.
While the Psychic Nullifier is certainly a potential link to alien tech, it is clear that most of the actual psychic abilities are just a result of FEV mutations. What this *does* imply, though, is that psychic abilities operate on some kind of unified force, and that the Zetans likely know ways to manipulate it.
Best I can do is psykers from 40k?
@@freekill1018 Not quite, though from what I understand the name does come from 40k. 40k psykers draw on the power of the Warp, another plane entirely. Fallout psykers are closer to X-Men mutants, having powers such as telepathy, telekinesis, and pryokinesis that are drawn from the mind.
The final boss of Fall out one also is shown psychic powers gained through a lot of FEV exposure
@@pikachufantastic He is literally the first one I mentioned lol
@@kabobawsome I was agreeing with you
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That’s incredibly true.
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My theory about why the alien tech looks different between 3 and 4 is one of 2 theories
1. The aliens upgraded their tech after their defeat at the hands of the Sole Survivor
2. The blasters are different because the aliens holding them were at different ranks
I think you ment to say Lone Wanderer on your first point
but the 4 version was found during pre war by that Hubble dude and the guys in 76. the 3 version was also mimicked by nuka world which was also pre war.
They could just be different weapons all together, kind of like our weapons such as the m4 or m16. I think they are just different models for different roles such as support or assault
3. Bethesda are inconsistent
Great video, as always, Nate!
Thank you so much for the shout-out!
The Zetans have always really made me think a Fallout X Xcom style title would rock - even more so post FO4, with the focus on base building, fallout shelter, etc - could easily become your Xcom style 'main base', and the apocalyptic setting would make going out on missions (to raid, progress story, battle, loot, etc) fitting too.
I always thought it would be neat for Bethesda to make an alternate universe game(s) where the great war never happened.
Instead, we get one game where the Zetans are the reason the world ended and it's an alien invasion apocalypse, where we're surviving after the earth governments took out the mothership (and fell apart in the invasion.)
Or one game where it's all Psycher powers and the apocalypse was caused by the Dunwich horror. So we get a very Cthullu style setting with most people driven insane.
They already made it, called fallout tactics. Wasn't received well.
@@nustada it’s a shame Fallout Tactics 2 was never made, we would have explored Anchorage and further round the Pacific Rim to China judging by the concept script.
There is a game similar to this that is being released in a month or so. Called Meet Your Maker. Where you raid other players for GenMat while building a place for others to raid too. I won't explain it all right here so look it up if interested
I want Bethesda to realese a assassins creed style dark brother hood game
The Zetans weak physicality can be easily explained by either evolving on a low gravity planet, or having been a space faring civilization for so long, that they have become accustomed to low gravity
Or they were the Dwemer that disappeared from Skyrim. Assuming you believe Skyrim came before and not after Fall Out.
Concerning the appearance and frailty of the aliens and their human experimentation in Mothership Zeta, I personally always thought of it as a more sinister solution to the Asgard from Stargate: SG1's problem.
Frickin Loki...
The fact that most of our interactions with Zetans end up being from crashes is interesting, especially since they're able to survive in the wasteland until they get shot, same as any other encounter. There's no way that they all are just terrible pilots, right?
The one in fallout 4 looked like it had been shot down. Maybe either wastelanders bringing them down or possibly aliens fighting each other?
Nukes maybe
@@Rizzatouille no way it would have gone down immediately after the great war not 200 years after
The high radiation content of Earth's atmosphere might be causing catastrophic interference.
Could be a situation of long overdue maintenance on a extended operation force.
Think how badly equipment can behave today if it’s not properly maintained to a high standard over short periods of time.
Now imagine said aliens being here for centuries and maybe some of those ships have been in use for a long while to the point some miss maintenance or are suffering from a long period of time away from their own star.
Hell maybe it’s a mix of just intergalactic travel taking a hit on their equipment and time spent in space that leads them to crash so much.
I like the emissary since I'm pretty sure it's a really niche reference to a West Virginia Cryptid called the Indrid Cold. Basically in the 60s a strange well dressed man who appeared on a back road and spoke to someone who stopped before teleporting away, he's often said to be an alien
Edit: I didn't know they added Indrid as his own character, now I'm even more interested in this emissary
Oh wow, I didn't know that. That definitely does sound like a reference.
Indrid himself just showed up in fallout 76. It’s literally him. Not just a reference. Pretty cool
59:07 This is honestly an awesome piece of wallpaper. That same lighting, that same lifeless colors. I'd love to have that frame on it's original size.
I may not be the best subscriber, but surely I'm glad you're making these videos possible. I wish you great health sir.
Honestly, I’m amazed how good this video is. This is always what I wanted since I was a kid playing fallout, so let me thank you and tell you that you just earned a new sub
Can we all agree that Nate’s videos are like a podcast? Just listening to one while eating or doing games, is nice. Great video 😌👍🏽
I love having them on whenever I have a Fallout game going.
How about you have an opinion and not need people to justify it for you
@@YaksenPushMongo What does that have to do with anything.
@@YaksenPushMongo “Dude is just redoing videos now. Find some new content buddy.
Yeah, this is definitely troll behavior and I'm not gonna make you ruin a good comment; unlike the one, you posted recently. So anything you say is irrelevant 😁
@@king_fisherXX Dawg it was your choice to take the bait and you did anyway
The first time I heard about Zeta Reticuli was in the late 80s, I was still a kid, but the story presented by Bob Lazar made mention of this star system/systems. Something about one of the craft that were in the hangar he worked at having been recovered having its origins there. Now Bob doesn't claim this is the truth, merely the story he was fed in the brief he was given. This was my first time hearing about someone mentioning Zeta Reticuli prior to Bob's mention.
An odd thing with the aliens in new vegas. If you stealth kill the captain, the others remain passive for some reason.
They aren’t real aliens in new Vegas. Wild wasteland is explicitly a mental disorder.
that sounds more like a bug tbh
i just had an image of a galloping hoard of Zetan invaders mounted on giddyup buttercup mounts, screaming across the wastelands alien blasters in hand
In the Flatwoods Monster tape you played, the cop's name is "D. B. Walton," which is a reference to one of the most famous alien abduction stories. The story of Travis Walton was adapted into the movie Fire In The Sky, where Walton was played by D. B. Sweeney.
What About d. B. Cooper? The guy who hijacked a plane.
@@Roboshark1019 DB Cooper's heist took place in the Pacific Northwest, West Virginia is on the other side of the country. And since it's alien related, the Fire in the Sky connection makes more sense.
@@AshleyWilliamsN7 ik but he keeps saying d b witch reminds me of cooper
@@Roboshark1019 we were talking about aliens, not hijackers.
@@Roboshark1019 what about him?
I was having a rough time today Nate, this is so much more than I could have hoped for, love the long form content especially on the subject of Fallout! So glad to have you back!
Please get over yourself.
More more more. Love your videos. Keeps talking about theories and mysteries that run between the lines from game through game. Love that secret stuff!🎉 Also, your war thunder ad was the most intense I've seen lol. It's the way you deliver it and your voice fit the ad.
This was great coverage of one of my favorite aspects of the series. Thanks Nate!
Dude these deep dive investigation videos are a ton of fun and you should definitely run with any ideas you come up with in the future. They will be watched I'm sure.
Can't help but notice that the life support system that Mr. House and the Emissary are both in look very similar to each other. Can't help but wonder if they are based on the pods we see in Mothership Zeta. I haven't played the two latest updates to 76, but plan on it soon thanks to this video. Keep up the amazing work, Nate, and thank you for keeping the passion of Fallout alive.
I just have to say I am so glad you have come back and keep making these awesome Fallout lore dives. They are 100% my favorite thing on You Tube to chill to
this is LITERALLY Scientology
Duh
One of the logs on Mothership Zeta was the US defence minister who was forced to hand over the launch codes of Americas nukes. While on the alien voice is the one heard the subtitles were still in the game and it brings up the possibility that the Zetans started the great War. But I guess that as it was removed it isn't counted right?
The funny thing there is that he *wasn't* forced to, he was just being made to talk into the recording device like everyone else. He just assumed that was what they were after because it was the most sensitive information he had.
I think that "The Emissary" is heavily based on "Indrid Cold", also known as the grinning man. Indrid Cold is of a man, or creature, who was seen on the roads of West Virginia in the sixties. He apparently was spotted several times, and, according to some testimony did not have a nose or ears, other than that being of normal, but rather tall and broad appearance. He was apparently rather friendly, and stated that he meant no harm. Some sightings involve him travelling in a UFO, while still always being dressed in a suit. The name of Indrid Cold is the name he gave to himself, and he also stated that he was from a different planet and curious about humanity.
It’s a men in black refrence, he talks about the night sky which they do, they also use a bright light deneuraliser to delete ur memories which he does
@@goose5581 Not saying that you're wrong but the man that is in the game is almost spot on Indrid Cold, who has also been seen in West Virginia. Might be a man in black thing too, but my money is on Indrid Cold
@@Schneternah the Emissary literally quoted a line from the first Men in Black movie. Immediately followed by a flash (neuralizer), and the man is gone. Highly doubtful this is referencing someone with no facial features.
@@argentum909 thanks for your input
@@argentum909The man in the game calls himself Indrid. He is supposed to be the same creature from the myth.
In the story when Cole was first sighted he had no facial features and with each new sighting he gained a nose, ears, etc.
He only used telepathy to communicate and always smiled.
Some think he is related to the urban legend Men in Black (the comic the movies are based on are inspired by the legends of them who appear after ufo sightings).
This was awesome! thank you.. just stumbling through random Fallout videos that are showing up in my feed after I started looking for more info about the Enclave and FEV
The video was incredibly insightful, alot of these things I missed (in the games I played) and the few I did I wasn’t aware of the full sub-context behind the encounters!!! I feel enlightened
I don't know if it's been said/suggested yet, but I'm pretty sure The Emissary's strange dialog is at least partially a reference to the series Men In Black given that he is quite literally that. It sounds an awful lot like the phrasing Agent K's former partner and then Agent K himself used at the end of the movie before asking for his "retirement" and being neuralized and returned to being a civilian. Even more likely since that effect and blinding light the NPC hits the player with appears to be a similar to the blinding light the neuralizer uses. Only it's just a cheeky way for him to depart.
I had to scroll so damn far before finding someone else who caught that and mentioned it.
I'm terrible at playing the Fallout Games, but absolutely love hearing you passionately talk about Fallout Lore. Please keep these videos coming!
Its an rpg, its not that you are terrible at it, it's that you are playing the role of an incompetent character
Play with god mode on, go enjoy the game lol
How are you terrible at playing fallout?
How can you be bad at an RPG?
Personally I think my head cannon is that it's just the specific mothership we see in fallout 3 that's studying life on earth, it explains a lot of the seemingly useless decorative clutter they've gathered as well as their abductees and genetic experiments
But other motherships could be out there gathering resources or farming food, I mean we know they have multiple motherships so I don't think it's too out there to think they might be purpose built for different tasks.
I love your fallout lore deep dives!!!! I'm glad you are still making these
I think the suggestion that mysterious stranger could be extraterrestrial would make sense. In Fallout 3 the lone wanderer will even comment that maybe he’ll run into his friend on mothership zeta. How else would the mysterious stranger be able to tag along?
The MS seemingly teleports to you and teleports away after one shotting an enemy.
MY DAY IS SAVED! OUR SAVIOR HAS UPLOADED!
Yessss
Hallelujah
I read this as "my dad is saved" and I was really happy for your dad.
*Insert Mothman worship chant here* 🦋
Lol seriously tho... I may be late for work because of this lol!
I believe you forgot about the Firelance alien blaster from 3. It's a random encounter. Basically it's like the encounter in 4 but all you get is what appears to be a red or at least rusty variant that deals fire damage. In all my runs in Fallout 3 I only got this gun once so it's understandable if you never encountered it.
I'm a little surprised that you didn't bring up the FO76 Companion quest for Commander Daguerre, considering the nature of the quest and that the reward is a (modded) Alien Blaster.
This was a great lore breakdown. I havent played 76, and now im half tempted to buy it solely for the lore. The Zetans in particular have always caught my attention since finding that downed ship in Fallout 3, this whole video was great
Buy it, pretty cheap pretty much anywhere and ALL updates are included as it’s live service. The map itself is breathtaking and has SO much to explore and discover. And all of it can be done solo!
It's definitely worth playing now. 80% of the bullshit that was at launch is now removed and patched.
Storywise I wouldn’t say it's as expansive as the older Fallouts but it are interesting and worth checking out.
This season will be bringing back the Invaders from Beyond event so I would jump on it so you don't miss out.
It’s cheep because it sucks ass.
If you play on Xbox or PC I'm pretty sure it is part of gamepass just in case that helps
Yeah, I want to play, but at the same time... I don't want to play with strangers. Sigh.
Every time TheEpicNate315 put's out a video on Fallout, it feels like Christmas morning and I feel like a kid again. Thank you Nate!
Given the different designs of the 2 Alien Blasters from 3 and 4, plus the different designs of the ships in the two games as well, I'm inclined to believe the Zetans are not a united people. Its possible they either were experiencing a civil war or are currently engaged in one. The different style weapons and ships could be indicative of which faction each member of the species belongs to.
EDIT: Also, in 3 you can get a unique Alien Blaster variant called the Firelance around the same area you get Dogmeat in at the Junkyard. I think its similar to 4 where you have to be a certain level for the world event to trigger where a spacecraft zips overhead and either crashes or explodes above you. It will drop the Firelance and some ammo for it
Finally more Alien Lore! Always upload when I need it most
i love the fact that at 6:00 in the pip boy you can see that Nate just gave himself 19 levels 😂
Would love to see you do a video on the history of bottle caps as currency. I've been replaying Fallout 4 thanks to this video and the Dunwich video, and after freeing Jack Cabot he mentions bottle caps being the so called currency. Made me think about why it became the accepted currency, and how it became accepted across the country when paper money from the old world seems to be easily obtained everywhere.
The pre-war money is a tangible representation of the countries wealth at large. Just like IRL. So without government and the national banking systems, those government bank notes have no value.
The other thing is inflation, if you can walk in a bank and get millions of dollars in cash then it’s worthless
It’s from fallout 1. One bottle cap = one serving of water from the hub. It was adopted on the west coast first, then the East from traders. It’s a standard precious resource backed currency
2:01 “3 years ago in 2019”
Biggest jump scare ive ever gotten
Absolutely loving these new and longer, videos, Nate. Can I humbly request you add chapters to these longer videos, however? Due to their length I'm sure a lot of us dip in-and-out of the videos, so being able to find our place would be amazing.
Yes!!! Chapters for the win!! It's the best for rewatching multiple sections
It's always a treat when Nate posts content covering fallout and Elder Scrolls lore. We need more
I accidently left the hubologists in the ride too long and they all exploded.
I want you to know Nate that no matter what game or genre you investigate, we will always look forward to your work. Thank you sir!
I stumbled into these videos from the Lovecraftian Dunwhich Horror parts, and am now very pleased to see Zetan investigating as well! Thanks for great videos Nate!
I haven't played these games in almost a decade, but I'll gladly watch a 2-hour EpicNate documentary on their minutia.
Definitely worth playing again if you've got the time. The wide variety of playstyles in both Skyrim and Fallout keeps it fresh.
Only saying because I was done with them, but Skyrims necromancy has hooked me again. Trying to spread the dopamine disease XD
Literally Scientology
Now, after watching both videos (on Aliens and on the Eldritch creatures), a thought dawned on me - what if those two are related? Popular theory is that the Aliens started the war... but what if they meddled with the goal to prevent it? And the Eldritch creatures are the ones who started it or influenced people to start it? What if the Eldritch creatures are the true enemies of the Aliens and the humans are mostly innocent bystanders in their conflict?
Interesting theory
I've never thought about that before but it makes sense to me.
Their planet was destroyed so they juymst follow the Elder Gods around and try to stop them. Reminds me of Falling Skies.
One thing I always wanted to know and thus far no one seems to know the answer to; is IN the sniper scope when NOT looking down the sight itself, the sunglasses reflection and in some dirty glass reflections, there appears to be , a scene of some sort being played out.
It appears to be a house of some sort, somewhat similar to the one Desmond lives in for Point Lookout dlc for Fallout 3.
It's in Fallout 4 as well, Same locations too in fact.
I'm sure many people have noticed it and no one can really give a definitive answer with proof of it.
I don’t believe there’s anything specific to it. It takes too much processing power to reflect the actual area around you, so the game uses a pre-set “reflection”. This is most notable on the glass domes used by the pay phones in Fallout 4, especially ones inside: despite being inside, the reflection will be that of a city street.
Heh, a fine mystery, in a way!
Second replier likely speaks the truth - modern high-end GPUs can display raytraced images, including authentic glass and mirror reflections, but at great cost.
I don't think RTX-tier graphics cards were even a distant consideration for Bethesda's programmers back in 2014, 2015.
@@aircobraman1375 Its a nice though, but its in Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 76 and Fallout 4. All four of those involve different people, yet it is the same image.
Logically ,it can not be such a think as a memory of image of anyones past if all 4 different vault people have it from different times and different locations.
@@swk3000 The fact it uses any reflection means it was thought and considered first. They knew an unloaded texture would not work, not would simply a black void.
Nope It has nothing to do with processing power at all. It is a static image, one they reused in 4 different fallout games, FO3, F:NV, FO4 and FO:76.
There is a reason they KEEP reusing that particular asset and i believe that is possibly a mystery to be discovered.
@@Gyrfalcon312 As I stated to the other commenter, This exists in 4 separate Fallout games, 4. Each games uses different specifications and different vault entities . It simply can not be a performance artefact.
Having a simple black void would use so much less resources than an actual static image of anything with colors, shades and variants.
Makes me so happy to see a new EpicNate! Always into Fallout vids man!
The whole starfather thing is a reference to 2001 a space odyssey. The starchild is an evolved human that was evolved by an extraterrestrial force, and then goes to basically make sure human kind evolves correctly.
Adding timestamps here for anyone else that can't make it throught longer form content without a topical roadmap (feel free to use these in the video description to add annotation bars in the YT video, EpicNate):
00:00 - Intro
02:47 - Sponsorship
03:45 - Fallout 4 Zetan Alien References (Base Game)
14:06 - Fallout 4 Zetan Alien References (DLC)
25:38 - Fallout 4 Zetan Alien / Dunwich Crossover
28:48 - Fallout 3 Zetan Alien References (Base Game)
43:00 - Fallout 3 Zetan Alien References (DLC)
1:01:49 - Fallout 1 Zetan Alien References
1:04:47 - Fallout 2 Zetan Alien References
1:09:22 - Fallout New Vegas Zetan Alien References
1:16:11 - Fallout 76 Zetan Alien References (Base Game)
1:21:45 - Fallout 76 Zetan Alien References (DLC)
1:41:50 - Outro
Awesome video! I love these long investigations while I drive across the Floridian wasteland!
A couple key points worth looking into for the next one:
The emissary has a line about the “guidestones” which are mentioned in VTU and the investigators cabin AND can be found nearby the federal disposal site in the south savage divide.
The invaders from beyond event was all about destroying their brainwave siphons. What do the zetans want with our brainwaves?
And the Olney powerworks in Fallout 3 (broken steel dlc) also had alien blaster ammo to be found.
There was a random encounter in Fallout 3 as well where an invisible alien ship crashes and drops a unique alien blaster “firelance”.
And lastly, you can find lore in vault 96 while doing the BOS questline in 76 that describes holding a specimen that describes a flatwoods monster even though it’s not named and you can’t find the cell.
4 years of watching Nate's videos and I'm still super excited to see an upload of any sort
he's great!
I wanna point this out: in the questionably canonical game: Fallout shelter, there *IS* a series of missions that imply and explain how the government was indeed experimenting and researching on alien techonology, during mission... 3 i think it was, your character will comment how "people seem tohave left the place as quickly as they could've", implying that whtever experiment they were dojng awakened the three aliens you fight 2 rooms later, also may i point out that the pulse rifle seems to resemble alien designs rather than fallout human designs?
Alien blaster ammo can be found in old Olney in f3, it's in ammo crates next to two turrets hidden in a wall that partitions.
I must have listened to your Dunwich video three or four times (I fell asleep to it at least once, very relaxing, haha). It came out right as I decided to get into Fallout’s lore more seriously, and being a huge Lovecraft fan, that bit of the story especially intrigued me. Your coverage is so comprehensive and entertaining, just the way I like my lore videos. Keep up the great work, I can’t wait for your next Fallout piece!
Dude, I’ve been watching and rewatching your vids for the past couple years, I’ve been starved of new content so yes of course you should make more fallout investigation videos we need that long form content
This genuinely made my day better.
Thanks Nate! You’re epic!
It is actually possible to get the Animatronic Alien Blaster in Fallout 4 without console commands or mods. My first playthrough on Xbox, before mods were even added, I ended up walking out of that first encounter with those animatronics with 3 of the blasters. They are not removed from the inventory immediately as the animatronic is destroyed, nor are they always removed.
I believe what it's supposed to be is that the blasters are actually authentic, but the conversion to using fusion cells made them extremely fragile so they end up breaking when they hit the ground after you break the animatronic, or that destroying the animatronic results in some stray current frying the blaster.
Always love these fallout mysteries videos thanks Nate!
I always feel sad that he doesnt upload as much as he used to, but the 2 hr videos are definitely worth the wait❤️keep it up nate!
What an awesome story hidden inside the storyline! Bethesda did a fantastic job with this!
This video is awesome as well! Thanks for all the hard work from all involved in this.
Hearing Nate laugh at a scientist needing to make his staff go full time is funny.
If you look at the controls you have access to internet captain area of the mothership, and the controls used to read the elder scroll in Skyrim they share a resemblance. What if The Dhemer (dwarves) are actually the zetans?
Dwemer*
But yagram doesn't look anything like a little grey man
I love your investigation videos in Fallout and Skyrim! You find all these connections between games that most people don't see unless they spend hours reading the Wiki, and even then that's not the same as seeing it. Keep up the great work!
Zetans/thetans, Hubble/L.Ron Hubbard, money, level 8 being the final level... Endynes!!! I didn't realize they were mocking scientology until I watched your video. Thank you for that fun easter egg.
Amazing vid man. The Fallout community is lucky to have you. Fascinating stuff. Thankyou!
As usual, awesome content from Nate. My only complaint: The year you're looking for is 1582. The Oda clan as it would have existed under Oda Nobunaga was an entity until 1582, and then the Honnoji incident happened. 1562 would have been two years after the Oda won the battle of Okehazama and begun their rise to power.
The content never gets old! Will keep on watching it, I always love to throw your vids on whenever I am doing some reading for school. It honestly feels a little nostalgic to revisit these topics as I was in an entirely different place with my life back when the old videos on the topic dropped. Keep up the great work! Am looking forward to what the future of this channel has to offer!
I recall that the moment I pushed the button to destroy the institute power supply or something as the Railroad (you are stood on a tower?), I pushed the button and almost the same moment the saucer crashed, so I could see right where it landed. So cool.
5:09 I AM NOT GREEN!
-Crypto 137
This was SUCH a great way to close out my weekend! Thank you for this, I thoroughly enjoy these videos, and these long ones, I've enjoyed the most.
I'd honestly rather sit through these, than sit down and watch shows/movies because at the very least, these are of a subject I absolutely love.
Thanks a million, Nate!
I love these kinds of videos! They're so detailed and analytical. Also, it was a pleasant surprise to see a mention of TKs-Mantis :)
Absolutely brilliant, loved that, thankyou for all your work on this content!
Regarding resistance to the Master's (and the captive psychics) powers, there is also the Mental Block perk. This suggests that radiation exposure can also lead to psychic resistance.
Alternatively, perhaps the Vault Dweller is extra terrestrial.