Islamic Pacifism in West Africa
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The concept of "jihad" in Islam is often oversimplified, and in this episode we explore one example of a "pacifist" tradition within Islam assoicated with Salim Suwari and the Suwarian tradition.
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
Babou, Cheikh Anta (2007). "Fighting the Greater Jihad: Amadu Bamba and the founding of the Mouridiyya of Senegal, 1853-1913". Ohio University Press.
Clark, Andrew Francis (1999). "Imperialism, Independence, and Islam in Senegal and Mali". Africa Today, Volume 46, Number 3/4, Summer/Autumn. Indiana University Press.
Creevey, Lucy E. (1985). "Muslim Brotherhoods and Politics in Senegal in 1985". The Journal of Modern African Studies, Vol. 23, No. 4. Cambridge University Press.
Kimball, Michelle R. (2018). "Shaykh Ahmadou Bamba: A Peacemaker for Our Time". The Other Press Sdn. Bhd.
Mbacké, Khadim (2005). "Sufism and Religious Brotherhoods in Senegal". Markus Weiner Publishers.
Sanneh, Lamin O. (2018). "The Jakhanke: The History of an Islamic Clerical People of the Senegambia". Routledge.
Wilks, Ivor (1968). "The Transmission of Islamic Learning in the Western Sudan". In Literacy in Traditional Societies, ed. J. Goody. London.
Wilks, Ivor (2011). "al-Hajj Salim Suwari and the Suwarians: A search for sources". Transactions of the Historical Society of GhanaNew Series, No. 13 (2011), pp. 1-79 (79 pages). Published By: Historical Society of Ghana.
Willis, John Ralph (1970). The Jihād of al-Hajj cUmar al-Fūtī: Its Doctrinal Basis. . . Ph.D. thesis, Univ. of London.
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What amazes me... Is not only the topics this channels handles. But also the way it communicates them.
Truly, a work of art. Which is extremely underappreciated. You deserve all the love and respect in the world my dude
Very kind! Thank you!
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@@LetsTalkReligion Can you do a video on Ras Khan and Reheem?
@@servantofjesuschrist839 please educate ur self and stop being ignorant . the verse is clear, it is talking about the day of judgement and how some of us faces will turn/be ,white or black according to what we have done(sins) .
And dont forget that u are believing that jesus is god in flesh and he who have certain ethnicity.U are worshiping a "white" "man",, u have no right to point at others in this topic :)).
@@yasst0034 it's clear you understood the verse without even me explaining to you and Jesus wasn't white when you go to Ethiopia he was represented as black when you go to Europe he was represented as white when you go to Asian countries like China or Vietnam he was represented by the way they look
But in Sirat Rasul allah it says if you say Muhammed was black you should be killed and that's the Sheria
as a " person of the book " I can say that the most pacifist people I've ever met were Muslims, they are also some of my favourite people to have theological descusions with. I've had way worse experiences from Evangelical fundamentalists telling me I'm going at me about this rapture concept that the vast majority of Christians dont subscribe to. Muslims seem to have this ability to use such wonderfully grounded logic when they talk about God and I really enjoy " talking religion " with them ( name drop intended 👍🏻) 🏴✝️🤝🏼☪️
They who have ears to hear, let them hear:
Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
"Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
1 John 2:2 KJV
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Acts 13:26-33 KJV
26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
1 Peter 3:22 KJV
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
John 14:6 KJV
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Mark 16:16 KJV
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 8:24 KJV
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Acts 2:38 KJV
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 11:13 KJV
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
John 14:21-24 KJV
21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*
No pacifism any more with Salafists (Wahhabists). They're even fiercer against other Muslims like me. They excommunicated Sufis who were part of mainstream Islam for a millenia. If some attacked me here (and they will), that's your sign.
@@mabroukatis Yes the Wahhabists are very brutal at times. I've never met any. I'm from Scotland and most of my Muslim friends are Persian and Pakistani. I know that Pakistan has some trouble with Wahhabism.
Bless you and your holy words...
It would be very wonderful if the people of the world would accept one another and live along side one another. Maybe just maybe there is just One Creator and it gives comfort and insight to different tribes in different ways. Love and acceptance should be the Law. For it is only you who faces whatever judgement you believe for yourself. There needs to be more vocal pacifists and peaceful people of all religions. Lest we shall see creation burn.
Sheikh Ahmadu Bamba, a legend of his time,
Whose spirit and legacy still climb,
To inspire the faithful, and to remind
That love and peace, in Islam, shine.
A truly inspirational figure!
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Be it known:
Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
"Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
1 John 2:2 KJV
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Acts 13:26-33 KJV
26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
1 Peter 3:22 KJV
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
John 14:6 KJV
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Mark 16:16 KJV
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 8:24 KJV
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Acts 2:38 KJV
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 11:13 KJV
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
John 14:21-24 KJV
21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*
@@servantofjesuschrist839 yeah as in enlightened by the light or fall into darkness due to no light, nothing to do with race. We humans arent even white and black lol we're tannish pink and brown
@@Sahelian do you even read Arabic??
As a great grandson of Alhaji Salim Suwari, I feel blessed to have come from such humble family. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
"Recourse to arms is permissible only in swlf defense"
Wouldn't be proud of being a descendant of a heretic.
Asalam Alaikum! Brother where are you from?
@@michaelthethinker7214 shut up
@@michaelthethinker7214 Respectfully, you know more about Boko Haram than Suwari or Islam does. Islam is a peaceful submission to the will of Allah. Therefore, a Terrorist group cannot be an Islamic organization. Suwari stands for peace unity and respect for human existence.
@@ab.swa22henry34 I don't know if you had the chance to meet him but if you did. What was he like not as the leader of a peaceful movement but as a man if it's not to personal I mean?
Oh heck yeah, I’ve been waiting for this topic! Thanks for the excellent work once again, Filip!
Violence comes from any lack of empathy. When we forget that our fellow humans are just that, humans just as complex and unsure as the rest of us
No group of humans is more capable of it than any other, we just like to pawn off the scapegoat on a new group every so often.
Be it known:
Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
"Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
1 John 2:2 KJV
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Acts 13:26-33 KJV
26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
1 Peter 3:22 KJV
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
John 14:6 KJV
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Mark 16:16 KJV
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 8:24 KJV
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Acts 2:38 KJV
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 11:13 KJV
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
John 14:21-24 KJV
21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*
@@Call_Upon_YAH My friend I hate to say that you're wasting your time but I am far too queer to be preached to.
Seems Muslims are more capable of it than Buddhist or Christians, Muslims have it in their religious text that violence is necessary to defend themselves from the pegan beliefs and jews
@@lampad4549 It was Catholic doctrine for a thousand years that all jews were personally responsible for the death of Jesus. Jog on, asshole
I'll teach you some Aramaic. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Hubba means love. My covenant with God aka Elohim Adonai Hashem is to make Israel one. It means to bring peace and reconciliation between Jew,Christian, Muslim: cousins by Abraham. Jerusalem is my home.
P.S. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem
Another fascinating story. I don’t know how you keep doing such consistently fine work, but I hope you continue.
Islamicization of West and East Africa followed trade routes, presenting its language and culture as a useful lingua franca among merchants from diverse ethnic groups. 1:48 [Oxford Academic]
Young man, you give me hope for humanity.
All your pieces no matter the subject make learning enjoyable.
If only all of his generation were as tolerant and educated. I live in the south of the USA. I don't have to explain.
I live in Montréal, Québec, Canada. I unfortunately witness intolerance and anti-muslim sentiments, words and behaviours regularly, including inside my own family. Your videos are so appeasing to the social and familial unease I sometimes feel. The present one being about a pacifist strand of Islam among West African Peoples is especially soothing - and very interesting. The fact that many, if not most West African Peoples speak french means Québec has a special connection with them, we have welcomed many immigrants from that area. I also find the visual depictions you use of the "Black Muslim educator" figure, the ones that look like drawings or paintings, somehow endearing. They make Salim Suwari and Ahmadou Bamba seem like gentle and warm persons. Cheers, friend.
Be it known:
Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit!
I tell ye, truly, Jesus of Nazareth is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. He is the anointed one, for he is, Jesus Christ. God the Father has raised him from the dead; who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God! Angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by him. They who believe and are baptized with the Holy Spirit shall be saved; but they who believe not shall be damned. For they who believe not on him, shall die in their sins!
I tell ye now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father!
There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you!
They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God...
Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask:
"Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen."
1 John 2:2 KJV
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Acts 13:26-33 KJV
26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, *and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.*
27 *For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him.*
28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
29 *And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.*
30 *But God raised him from the dead:*
31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
32 *And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,*
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
1 Peter 3:22 KJV
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
John 14:6 KJV
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Mark 16:16 KJV
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 8:24 KJV
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Acts 2:38 KJV
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Luke 11:13 KJV
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
John 14:21-24 KJV
21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.*
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.*
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.*
Agreed! I am also from Montreal and I have had the chance to work with and have very interesting conversations with people from West Africa.
Shit man you should move to an islamic country they are far more tolerant towards islam
Tu te demandes pourquoi les gens aiment pas l’Islam ?
@@mistergrosbig4085 Non.
Holy cow, 7 times...!!?
And all the way from west Africa...
That seems not only impressive and such a colossal feat... It's seems and sounds impossible. Even at this time.
But he did it! Wow.
Would Love to know the route je took
There is no one Holy except God.
@@unsrescyldas9745 Al-Quds means Holy. Ruh al-Qudus means Jibreal.
@@sonofJurell
No. in Arabic there are separate words for these. Quddus, Quds/Qudus.
Quddus or Muqaddas are the adjectives which mean holy.
Quds or Qudus are nouns, more like "Holiness". these are the same word, Quds is just a direct transliteration.
Am West African Muslim . Thanks for taking about 'karang' Salim 💓
" West African Muslim "
@@EbikeAdventures667 Convert to Catholicism and be saved.
@@habibturay9930😂can you please check your churches scandal upon scandal am sorry pass. We content with Allah alone the creator of The Heavens and the Earth. To whom we shall all return to.
@@Skrill10 We christians also worship God(Allah) alone no shirk however muslims misinterpreted the Holy Koran that's why we're different.
Just wanted to say I find your videos extremely beautiful and interesting to the point. I am so glad I found this channel with such great explanations and covering up as many details as possible in a single video. You really put your heart and soul into these videos. Love your work and your videos. ❤
I love more your channel since you made videos about west African Islamic scholars like Shaykh Ahmadu Bamba. Great thanks for this work.
Where do you get this wonderful illustrations ?
AI art
Growing up in Senegal, there was a mural next to my aunt's house of who I now (thanks to you) know to be Ahmadou Bamba. For a long time as a kid I thought it was a depiction of God. I'm not sure why, but that's just how my young mind conceptualized it. Anyway, this brought up a lovely memory. Your video taught me so much about the different peoples and traditions of the region. Great stuff!
The history about Serigne Touba is incredible
If anyone is interested in the earlier presence of Islam in West Africa, I just released a video on the Wagadu Empire, which had a strong Islamic presence alongside its non-Muslim population, even when the kings of the country were still Pagan (they converted to Islam late in the 11th century).
Exactly, Arabs never fought a battle in subsaharan Africa
The people who built ancient Ghana were ANIMISTS. However, Muslims are trying to sell a lie that Islam made the Ghana Empire great. What rubbish. All the greatest empires in Africa were founded by animists.
@@AfricanMaverick I discuss Wagadu's pre-Islamic religion in my video as well!
One of the best informative TH-cam videos is " Let's Talk Religion." May I again thank you for the intelligence and wisdom your program brings to our world. Excellent work today on West Africa and Islamic teachings of Islam, before and after al-Sahm Suwaii.
what at intriguing topic, thank you for bringing light to such unheard of parts of history, especially of Africa which is often overlooked
Thank you Filip, as always. Nothing changes! So much wisdom has come before us. And here we are still struggling with the same intolerance and ignorance that inspired these mystics and scholars and who left us with their knowledge and direction. I am blessed with have had lived in Islamic countries and had all my ignorance and beliefs challenged. And I changed.
Thank you, I forwarded this to my friends in Touba and to South Africa because of the clarity.
bai fall!!! mourid dey topa ndigal
I've engaged in extensive research into Medieval West African history and did not find any mention of Al Hajj Salim Suwari. Thank you for providing insight into his person, which does provide a probably explanation for a very unique historical West African phenomenon I call "WAGING PEACE" that occurred twice in the Senegambia Kingdom of Baol Cayor (1600 - 1610 under Ma Khouredia Kouli, and 1763 - 1769 under Mba Compasse). During this time in this place, all disputes where settled and no aggression occurred, giving us a model for the future. I will do more research to find if Al Hajj ir his followers spoke to these Leaders, let me know if you find any connections. Peace to you all.
I'm actually from the senegambia region and never heard of him outside of our local scholarship. This is refreshing. And thanks for your contribution btw.
Why was the slave trade a main source of business if west Africa was peaceful?
@Civitatuccillo It would be instructive to exchange the term "Slave" with "Serf", in medieval Africa a slave was essentially an economic status that maintained many social liberties. As a matter of fact, many African "Slaves" had climbed to very high social status while still being a "Slave". Also in many folk tales, Slaves were known to leave their Masters and later return to work at their own comfort. The institution of African slavery was inherently different from European "Chattle Slavery" which removed personhood and reduced the individual to the status of an animal.
*Slave was Social Status, not economic, hence a Slave could be as wealthy as a Master (which regularly happened)
@@AfricanTvFilmaker Mohammad owned and sold slaves . Slaves is the term used in the Quran and slavery was part of the indigenous tribes long before Islam swept west Africa, slavery was a natural continuous practice . Since Mohammad is " the perfect man" and a Muslim is to follow and practice all Mohammad did in life, slavery is still practiced today in Islamic countries .
Jakhanke in the west 🇸🇳 🇬🇲 🇬🇳, Dyula in the south 🇨🇮 🇬🇭 🇧🇫, Wangara in the east 🇳🇪 🇳🇬 🇧🇯 Soninke in the north 🇲🇷 🇲🇱.
Incredible work, thanks for all the enrichment. You do work for Islam, very few Muslims actually do. More importantly I think is how you present religion in a contemporary spiritual eclectic model, moving it from a bygone dogma to a modern cerebral exercise.
Forgive me for dropping in a minor criticism, it's just because I really love this channel and the musicality/rhythm of your narration. I don't think you need to fast-forwarded your speech, it can remain at natural pace _/\_
Thank you!
Although, I have not fast-forwarded my speech at all. Are you sure it's not your video settings?
we are doing the work.. it just the loud voice are the islamophobes.. news and the big platforms are showing a fake image.. but the truth will preveil
How do few Muslims do?
@@lampad4549 actually muslims do alot of work.. it just not shown in the big liberal platforms.. and news.. ofc cuz islam is anti liberalism.. if he just search in youtube itself, using any language he want.. he will find answers and work muslims doing..
@@LetsTalkReligion hehe apologies for that then
Don't leave out racism many Arab Muslims are very racist toward black Muslims in Africa
Absolutely love this. Always wanted to learn more about pre-wahabist Islam of west Africa which was uniquely cosmopolitan. Thanks a lot for the upload.
Hmmmmmm you seem misinformed
You think sufis are some hippies 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There's nothing called wahhabism
I find contemporary quietist approaches in Islam incredibly interesting so learning about this medieval precursor is exciting.
Looooooooove that Topic ❤💚❤💚❤💚❤💚
I would love to hear what you have to teach on Islam and war further in future videos. I think they are topics well needed for people to understand the wealth of knowledge Muslim schools have to offer the world
Jihad doesn't mean to kill someone who is not Muslim. Jihad means fight against murderers or other criminals who are dangerous to peace. These criminals can be among Muslims as well.
While only state can take armed action against criminals. Individual can't take any action. Its clearly mentioned in Quran.
There are many kinds of Jihad. For instance Quran says the biggest jihad is to clean one's own heart.
Telling and speaking the truth before a cruel Ruler is also a Jihad.
Jihaad is driven from the word Jehd, jehd means to work hard to get something.
Lesser jihad is defensive or offensive
@@schorpioen7466 lesser jihad is: if you see kind of injustice or evil deed, just think thats bad in your heart. Hate the negativity from your heart if you don't have courage or power to speak. This is explanation of prophet's words, I'm not saying from myself.
Now its on you what name you give to this I;e offensive or defensive
Jihad means kill your enemies in context of the Quran, which is non Muslims. Non Muslims are framed as murderers or criminal.
@@beyondgalaxies3960 isn't that greater jihad?
@@lampad4549 never, its your ignorance and lack of study. Just write any Qur'anic verse to support your statement.
During prophet's own rule Christian, Jews, pagan used to live in the same state. No one killed them.
I always get excited and joyful when I see a new video from you!
Thank you for making a video on islamic pacifism. Sometimes Islam is synonymous with killing and abuse. We need to make narrow views of religions disappear.
How many battles did Muhammed order, and following him the 4 guided rulers? Early Islam was conquest.
@@stevenallen5039 it is undeniable that islam has had aspects of war in it. The prophet was supposed be a man with a life, so he had a family, had companions, etc. and waged war when needed, some have said offensive war is also okay, but generally I've only seen defensive war as valid. The same is true for the four Caliphs.
@@guts-sama4258 Offensive war is valid to
@Jess Tarn Keep hoping fool
@Jess Tarn The problem cultivates from the imaginary word "God" whence religions erupted and chaos prevailed.
"Which way I flie is Hell, my self am Hell..."
Violence can never be escaped, it became a part of their daily lives but not who they are. Just gotta live with it.
Great video! I'd love to see a video on Ustaz Mahmoud Taha's "Second Message of Islam" and Alfikra Jumhurin. I believe Ustaz Mahmoud was a sufi so I think it would make an interesting video on how his sufi beliefs may have led to the previously mentioned ideas from him.
No words have enough gratitude to convey how thankful I am of you illuminating our minds, of people we would barely know otherwise. I would also request of The Kashmiri Reshi order of Sufism , lal ded and Sheikh nooruddin wali. A union of ideas between Hindu Shaivism and Islam.
Alhamdulillah. This is a good history. We need more stories like this, Inshallah. However, I am always baffled as to why people feel compelled to get additional guidance on how to be Muslim outside of the Qur'an, which is thorough on these subjects... It seems that men, even we Muslims, prefer to follow a man.
Am I Suwareh, and yes, we hold true to our tradition. My 2 brothers are hafizul Quran,
A decendent of Suwareh came to the Gambia to the Soninkes ( formerly: pagans) he converted and taught them Islam, h today we are in the imams of this town in the Gambia.
Those images are amazing!
I live in a region where islamic spread through trading. I've never heard about this man but his vision of islam is what i always believe to be true.
Wonderful introduction Filip and a great topic, thank you.
Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the [a]earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Honestly, I’m not very surprised that this way of thinking originated in Africa, and I can’t help but think Suwari’s perspective was informed by the tumult he, his people, and continent faced. Suwari was, clearly, a very learned man and a firsthand witness to the continual assaults on the African continent and people. He seemed to choose to try and break that cycle. Beautiful!
It is a strange thing that because the West invaded countries in the Middle East and killed millions of civilians, and you were not called terrorists, and because after an attack, between 4 and 10 thousand were killed, knowing that it was proven that an intrusion process was carried out by architects, even though the Jewish employees coincidentally took their leave on that day. Fabricated by the Israeli Allabi to support expansion against Palestine
It's payback to what mo did to khaybar jews, measure for measure
Great video as always! I was wondering where I could find the artwork (particularly the coloured paintings) of the West African Muslims that you used in this video. I'd really appreciate your response!
Some of them are actually generated by AI. Which one(s) are you thinking about?
@@LetsTalkReligion Ah, now that you mention it, I can see it now. I was thinking about the ones in 5:13-5:26, 8:46-9:02, 9:09-10:38
I would love to hear your insight on Dr. Moustafa Mahmoud the Egyptian thinker
"Say oh Muhammad the truth is from your lord let him who wills believe and he who will let him disbelieve"- Quran 16.
I have lived in the Middle East for 15 years and have many wonderful Muslim friends...but perhaps rather than trying to accommodate the problems within Islam, it would be better to recognize that Islam doesn't contain the Truth? Would any judge exonerate a person who has committed crimes...simply because they had done other good things? Neither would a perfect God. Might it be better to continue your search for the Truth rather than trying to manipulate the religion?
No religion contains "the truth" whatever that may be. All religions are man-made and false.
Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing job
Thanks!
@@LetsTalkReligion you're welcome i started uploading videos myself on TH-cam about Islam as I have got inspired by your channel and other channels and Muslim imams I follow on TH-cam may Allah guide all of us to the right path ameen 🙏
@@LetsTalkReligion Also are you son of Imam abdul murad hakim as you totally look like him
~5:23 I wouldn't put a lot of stock into Ivor Wilks' dates, he also estimated that people in modern day Ghana didn't become sedantary farmers until after the 15th century, which was so unfounded that it's extraordinary lmao
Great as always, bro. BTW, did you used AI to generate images of the African Muslims? That's totally Halaal with be, and I understand that sadly there are not many human-made images of them.
I did! This was a particularly difficult episode to find relevant images for, so I decided to try the AI thing.
@@LetsTalkReligion Which AI software did you use?
Halal an image for a video... 🤡 Peaceful community as always
Your Channel is working for Mankind.
When it's all said and done I don't think religion really makes people do anything. The reason why Suwari had a peaceful interpretation is because he was a peaceful man, violent people will have a violent interpretation of Islam. That being said I do think that proselytizing is still wrong. It is better than violence because you're not physically hurting anyone, but you are still imposing yourself on people. Unless your religion is actually evil who somebody prays to is nobody's business. Also, you don't do good deeds so that you can convert people to your religion you do good deeds because it's the right thing to do and you care about people. Being nice to people so that you can convert them is hypocritical. Great video, I have now subscribed to your channel.
Excellent video. Very interesting,informative and worthwhile video.
Al- Quran / (Al-Imran 3:133-134)
“… A garden as wide as the heavens and earth, prepared for the righteous. Who donate in prosperity and adversity, and who restrain anger and pardon others. And Allah loves the good-doers.
i just want to point out that it can also play into racist stereotypes of black Africans as easily subjected by paining them solely as pacifists. not that i think this is intentional but you also have a video on sheikh ahmadou bamba, but no videos on armed resistance to colonial forces. i know this may not be your topic of focus but i hope the followers of this channel do still seek out this information because west africans have also engaged in violent struggles for freedom and this effort must also be honored. As Malcom X said: "there has never been a bloodless revolution"
thank you for continuing to do such good, and i can imagine time consuming, research to give us videos on these understudied topics
﴿ لَّا يَنْهَاكُمُ اللَّهُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يُقَاتِلُوكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَلَمْ يُخْرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَارِكُمْ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمْ وَتُقْسِطُوا إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُقْسِطِينَ﴾ Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who did not fight against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. Al-Mumtaḥanah 28 _8
Amazing video!
Hello Filiip love your channel and a great fan of your work. Can you do a video on the Sufi stages? The sufis have written books highlighting the experience of each level leading to the attainment of enlightenment. Also they talk about the side affects of intense meditation like astral body projections, telepathy, psychic powers and other capabilities.
Thank You Sir….I am myself an Elhadj Salim Souare grand son and I named my son after him….I when he grow up I will be happy to show him your Video to let him know who his ancestor was….Salaam to you.
I will add that Salim in Arabic means the safe so He (Salim Souare) couldn’t do other than spread peace.
When I was younger I heard stories of Suwari and Thierno Bocar. It brings me comfort today to understand why peace was important to promote and why the image of many religions are marred in our time as none of them bring peace in fact. I understand now that Islam is what it is based upon the disposition of the people who bring it, Court it, develop it and spread it. It is interesting to note that the French sponsored many African Muslims to go to Mecca, it is interesting that all the movements by Muslims Brotherhoods were allowed to be simply because they served the agenda of the colonial powers. Pacifism then benefits the rulers at the expense of the ruled.
A study of Islamic slavery would be welcomed since it was thriving in west Africa during this time
John Zuma talked about this. In where you’re coming to the end of some of the most violent jihad‘s or the most violent forms of the jihad‘s that were happening in central tropical Africa at this. And examining this a lot of the caliphs and the clerics around that time were viewing all of the jihad‘s, and the subsequent slave, reading as very negative so this was the thing that was motivating them to lean more towards pacifism, in the name of preservation
Thank you for these videos! It's so sad islam is so generalized when it's a very widespread and thus diverse religion with lots of different people and ideas.
Then why didn't Sweden become a more peaceful country after mass Islamic migration? Who's to blame? The swedes?
Islam is a religion of the warrior monk. The man who is serene in the thick of battle. The external being an intermittent for the war within. In constant conflict with evil. The greatest general is one who wins wars without fighting a single battle ~ Sun Tzu, (& Sun Suwari)
Hey man I really appreciate the Islamic content as I can see it's a peak interest of yours but can you do more eastern content such as Buddhism, Hinduism ,daoism , Jainism , Shintoism, tengrism etc . I have binge watched most of your videos and would love more expansion on eastern Esotericism.
Islam is the primary eastern content on this channel. Islam is just way more interesting than these other things you have mentioned. I know hindus have a tendency of a sort of “competition” with Islam, even though Muslims don’t seem to care about hinduism at all. I know this because i am a Muslim indian.
There are some videos on this channel on your things… go and watch those and see if that makes you happy
Perhaps you could find a lot of hinduism related stuff on RSS and BJP related TH-cam channels. These 2 orgs run this religion so i am damn sure their affiliated TH-cam channels have high quality stuff on Hinduism.
I never understood this tendency among devout politically minded hindus who on seeing any Islam related content online where Islam is discussed in positive light, swarm on that content and start expressing either their dismay and start using expletives OR start demanding creators of such content to also talk about Hinduism 😂😂 … always hilarious
@@MSS-nt9ko I'm interested in eastern faith's because I want to further understand my local lands beleifs I also mentioned other philosophies such as tengrism, Jainism , daoism , Buddhism and Shintoism I would love to learn about in depth. At no point did I shower hate on Islam in my comment , I merely asked one of my favourite youtubers to make more eastern content out of interest. Also as stated before I have watched nearly all his videos from Platonism , to ibn Sina , dead sea scrolls , esoteric Christianity, Islamic esoteric geometric symbol etc
@@137Trimethylpurine26dione i checked out your channels subscribed list. Filled with hindu nationalist stuff. I know your ilk all too well ☺️ … anyways let’s give you the benefit of doubt and let you go…
@@MSS-nt9ko there's not much all you've probably found is abhijit chavda but he makes content on geo politics and history.
It’s sweet how similar ideas seem to pop up every where at different times in very different cultures. There’s always some fraction of a group of people who want to find nonviolent solutions.
He was my great grandfather and his first surname was Cisse before being called Souare during his 7th pilgrimage.
Very interesting Filip, I hope you return to West Africa soon : ))
God willing! I long to go back.
@@LetsTalkReligion 🙏
As an Arab, your pronunciation amazes me.
Al-Quran /Surah Al-Baqarah Ayat 190
"Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits. Allah does not like transgressors."
It immediately jumped out to me, and seemed extremely interesting, that excluding points 2 and 3, the 7 points that Ivor Wilkes has identified as showing Suwari's position on Muslim-non-Muslim relations are identical to modern Catholic thought on the matter.
Edit: and it seems that point 3 might not even reflect his actual position, which would make the coincidence even larger. Interesting!
That is indeed interesting!
I appreciate the effort you put in trying to explain religion.. I just hope no one takes it as the truth or fact
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Thanks again for your service 🙏💓
I really appreciate this video, it is very instructive. I want to respectfully reject the notion that under the Tijaniyya brotherhood, they shifted more into the physical jihad like Cheikhou Oumar Foutiwou Tall. God chose that path for Cheikhou Omar, there’s other Tijaniyya islamic scholars that came after him and that chose different paths. There’s another islamic scholar named Seydi Hadji Malick Sy, known as the khalif of Cheikhou Oumar, and one of the biggest figures of the Tijaniyya brotherhood that also chose the pacific Jihad to fight colonialism of the french. Senegal saw an abundance of islamic scholars in the 19th century like Cheikh Ahmadou Bamba and Seydi Hadji Malick etc. and each had its own philosophical view of how to take on the French. Thank you for the video.
Also the dates of this if he lived in 1300s thats prior to slavery and colonialism in Africa so it makes sense his teachings would be peaceful. We are living in anti black racist era thats very violent. Be realistic.
Thanks, I appreciate this.
Now, another thing that is interesting to me, is once again, you see Africans take ideas that are not necessarily theirs and applying it in a fashion that is holistic to them, and not having Tatian for advantageous for outside groups to come in and dominate. John Zuma, in his book the legacy of Islam in tropical Africa Took the time to point out one of the reasons why the Arab merchants developed this enemies towards the ruling class that was there was because there was no way for them to own land but if the technicality here is becoming Muslim or knowing the Koran, then Africans with their own chronic schools have already accomplished that
When you read the Quran, it specifically states the conduct towards people who they consider as idol worshipers. And never at any point did it say attack them for the sake of convergence it was always attack for the sake of self-defense. And I believe that they were talking about the people that they were struggling to get around that time which were the Abyssinians and the Egyptian’s because they were the only people in the area to fit the descriptions. Who cares about a idol peddler they care about the idol worshipers that were doing slavery on them.
I think the spread of Islam needs to be examined from Dr. Zuma’s perspective. Now there was a dispensation. I didn’t want to talk about North Africa right now because we know how North Africa turned out. But as it became an African affair, they first came about in the form of religious experts and traders. And at the beginning, the chiefdoms were very accommodating to them but sooner or later, because of the way, Arabs interpreted their Scriptures it lead to conflict because again the points to where Muslims are not allowed to live as a guest so they had a motivating factor for them to seize power, but it was the African matriarchal system and kingship that prevented that from happening. So one of the things, Arabs thought that they could do was spread the religion, and spreading the religion, carry all the consequence of running the educational institution. And then the Arabs also had the advantage of trading with Arabia around that time, so at the same time, the Africans have the resources and the land, but the Arabs had the connections to trade to benefit off of those resources. No I’m not gonna sit here and pontificate Dr. Zuma’s book here but you have to understand that this is more of a failure of Arab culture when you talk about violence and Islam because when the Africans took it, they were the first people to bring about pacifism Mohammed himself did not bring about pacifism, but it was the African scholars and African kalif’s that did.
Is there a religion or school of thought that has resonated most with you? I know that you focused on Islam academically, but that you mentioned not being convinced. I feel the same way, even though Islam somehow draws me to it more than any other religion (which also doesn't make sense, because Advaita Vedanta, Daoism, and some forms of Buddhism seem to be more logical and believable to me, personally). I enjoy reading the holy books of all religions to have a better understanding of the many beliefs and cultures of the world, and consider myself on an erratic path towards some kind of truth and meaning. While each holy book has pearls of wisdom, I always come across passages that I simply can not accept, as they have the distinct feel of being influenced and corrupted by man, not to mention the extra-scriptural dogma that attaches itself to most religions. Instead, I end up attempting to combine the similar wisdom and philosophies common in all religions into my own moral and spiritual framework. However, then I have no sense of community. Some days I ask myself if it's worth having that sense of community while not being fully convinced or committed. A deep part of me feels that it's wrong, but some days I still strongly consider it. I find it discouraging that I haven't found one that my heart and mind will fully accept, and I deeply envy those that can have true, full faith in a particular religion. It seems liberating and wonderful, and provides access a strong community. The struggle of an agnostic seeker is a difficult one. Thank you for all of your content.
What he talk is bias mostly influneced by many things
Like jihad and many other things
It was narrated that Jabir Sair:
"A slave came and gave his pledge to the Messenger of Allah to emigrate, and the Prophet did not realize that he was a slave. Then his master came looking for him. The Prophet said; 'Sell him to me.' So he (The Prophet) bought him for two Black Slaves, then he did not accept until he had asked; 'Is he a slave?'''
Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 4621 ☹️
West African religion and history has been coming more and more into the light these past few decades. When one digs into these bearly known cultures and regions much good is to be found there. The Tijaniyyah in this region is helping in part to this exposure, mashaAllah.
Peace be with you in the name of my Lord Jesus Christ. Please convert to Catholicism and be saved.
@@habibturay9930 you don't understand Jesus son of Mary.
You call Him Son Of Mary right well give me a verse in the Koran or Bible when he calls Himself that.
Peace. Gods loves you and that's why he sent his one and only Son Jesus Christ to die in your place. Every Sin is a debt but Christ came to settle that debt.
@@frankjimenez4601 If you believe your debt will be settled too.
Filip!
As a Muslim i want to say something regarding the two things you mentioned. You said before starting the war, Muslims would tell them to accept Islam and the other was to pay tax.
I want to clarify that this is not the case as this was subjected to Prophet's life. The rule is part of "Itmam e Hujjat".
Omar RA only gave these options to those lands where prophet had sent word of Islam earlier.
No one now can place these two things in front of a society and start Jihad bil Saif (Jihad of Sword).
Islam never forces itself onto someone. It offers understanding and one cannot be a Muslim when it's not through heart. Those two conditions were due to Itmam e Hujjat for prophet as all prophets had this rule before.
Great video. Would be nice if you could posted more about unusual religion branches.
And their history
Great video as always Filip, although I have a few bits of concern, did you by any chance use AI generated imagery? As the images you shown in this video look slightly off, especially the buildings and crowds
Guy in the thumbnail looks exactly like Don Cheadle.
Your content are always the best 🥰
Kinda appropriate that the guy who founded a Pacific's form of Islam was named Salim.
hey filip ,
I have read a book recently which I would like to recommend you.
The book is ' Infinite paths to infinite reality' by Medhananda .
This book is about a very unique type of philosophy which can be called ' vijnana vedanta '.
You should definitely give it a try .
Thank you. You are appreciated.
the way you talk about the word jihad is heavily influenced by post-modern morality to the extent that you mention struggle in war as the last meaning for the wprd jihad when in reality it is the most common usage of the word,
And also when you were explaining muslim beliefs regarding war you mention war in defending oneself and the concept of “just war” and “darul islam, darul kufr” but not talk that much about fighting the non-believers even if they don’t attack first, which all jurists of islam, from every traditional sect(sunni; hanafi, hanbali, shafi’ee, maliki and shia; Imami , zaydi , isma’eeli and mu’tazili) accept and consider as wajib,
I mention this because i believe when talking or researching topics specially from other areas of the world or other cultures one should be conscious about his biases and try to remove them when talking about the topics,
and your (or your sources) exact biases here were “war is harmful, harm is bad therefore war is bad unless really compulsory” , “religions are subjective beliefs whichs goal is to give meaning to ones life, raging war on basis of something subjective isn’t worth it therefore raging war on religious basis is immoral”
now i’ve seen the sources you have used and non of them were direct works of the mentioned scholar or of his students or scholars that follow his way, instead they were studies done in universities (a western establishment) from westerns countries or countries that have been highly affected by colonialism (which nowadays is almost every country), why is this bad? as a person who have studied in traditional madrasas , and is from a traditional Qadri sufi lineage , I see most people who study mainly in these schools and universties to be highly affected by western thought and morality, even if they were more traditionalists in their views the ways they justify their traditional views are ways that only a brain affected by western thought and morality would find justifying, which kills the soul of islam or the specific tradition they are trying to hold on, therefore their understanding of sufism and sufi saints and jurists isn’t reliable,
so it would’ve been really helpful if you used directs sources , and some of the things you mentioned just CANNOT be said by a muslim let alone a well known and respected jurist,
and the other thing is you mentioned this like it contradicts the views held by other jurists regarding war with non believers, but i don’t think the two beliefs are contradictory, because the suwari tradition and other sufi tradition that is about peace mostly mention this peacful way as a way to convert people to islam, And the jurist ruling regarding offensive war is about making islam dominant, thats why you take jizya rather than forcibly converting non believers, as you can see both can be true at the same time, you can make islam dominant by war and have people comvert to islam by being a good trustworthy and peaceful man
saying this, i really like your content and appreciate the research you do it really shows how much you’re dedicated, only hope the best things for you❤
if anyone’s wondering why the statement “war is harmful, harm is bad therefore war is bad unless really compulsory” is wrong;
it’s because the statement assumes that all harm is bad when that is not the case we find that the doctor sometimes harms patients in order to make them get better and we don’t consider that as immoral, we see bodybuilders tiring out their bodies (which is a type of harm) and we dont consider it to be immoral or bad, so mere harm can’t be moral or immoral, the context its put in makes it gain its moral judgement, and in the case of defensive war i think it’s clear why it’s not immoral but in the case of offensive war, it is not immoral unless the immoral war has no justification, so the justification that muslims have is that islam is the true word of god and islamic rules are the only just rules, therefore making islam dominant by raging an offensive war isn’t immoral
Excellent program
Teach by example? So said Francis of Assisi: "Preach the gospel and, if necessary, use words." I bet Suwari and Frank are best friends now.
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"Islamic pacifism"... It's like saying a "vegan lion"...
you are describing the violence of christianity
@louis deniau Is the following from the Bible?
"Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allāh and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment" (Surah Al-Ma'idah 33)
@@egosum7 like i said you are describing the violence of christianity
@@louisdeniau8571 Source?
@@egosum7 look at christian history and their justifications with the bible. look at what the church says about killing infidels
legit approach to spreading religion yea
cant say i wasnt impressed after learning about sikhism haha
Many thanks brother!
Respect West African Muslims for their pacifism. They are the ones to hold true Islamic codes.
Amazing video
I request that you please do one on Abdul Ghaffar Khan. he was a Pashtun independence activist, known for his passive and non-violent resistance,
Beautiful art!!! Could you share where you found the art that you used or even the artist?
West Africa and South Asia are interesting as they are the last Sufi strongholds. It’s basically extinct in the other lands it was once common in.
I'd love to see this as a series, pacifism in Islam across the world