Him: Mohammed is mentioned in the Old Testament Cliffe: Where is Mohammed mentioned? Him: You gotta read the Hebrew Cliffe: I studied Hebrew. So, where is Mohammed mentioned in the Old Testament? Him: I don’t know. Google it. Everyone: 🤦🏽♂️
In the Old Testament there is no mention of Muhammad. This is a lie from Ahmed Deedat. Are Muslims just copy/paste? In the Song of the Solomon it reads in Hebrew as Muhammadin Muhammadin which does not refer to the Muhammad of Arabia at all. Next, I am ex-Muslim. I am a Christian now. I will not lie about Muhammad. Neither did I lie when I was a Muslim. When I recognised the truths about Muhammad during my time as a Muslim while I was reading the source documents (Quran, Sira, Hadiths etc.) I realised he is NOT a prophet of any god and a liar, deceiver and what not. I am glad I was honest when I was a Muslim. I recognised Islam and left it. I am glad I did not lied or deceived myself or others to defend Islam. As now I am a Christian, I believe I am same in respect to Christ. And I tell you, the person of Christ always comes out with flying colors as the Son of God. It is sad to see Muslims read about Roman Empires and so many other things just to defend Muhammad. Too much mental gymnastics. Not worth it. Very sad. Be honest people (specially Muslims), Please, be honest. The door to Christ is always open for you, why defend the filthy Muhammad?
Blessings to you and rejoice that you found the truth. I'm always interested in what Muslim has to say because it's like a knock off version of Christianity. The Muslim man in the video had many views of the bible that were simply false, but the glaring part was misunderstanding the difference and reason for christ dying.
He sat back because the Muslim Lad completely destroyed him, he has no answer and watch how angry and aggressive Cliff gets if a young person does not agree and submit
@@Ckrisg1 Muslim Lad: Muhammad is mentioned in the old testament Cliff: Show me where he is mentioned in the old testament Muslim Lad: I don't know You call this winning an argument?
@@JinKazama92 Completely ignored my point and its all BS anyway from both of them, ask Cliff about Slavery in the Bible and he will break one of the 10 by lying through his teeth
Cliffe and son continue to study islam more in depth bcuz there's so many points you could have refuted him on if you knew more on the subjects! God bless!
Not every point has to be refuted. When that is done it turns into an argument. You want to stay focused on the main thing and not get pulled into side arguments. Sometimes you have to just let them talk then steer the conversation back to where you want it. Plus, when your shooting from the hip in a public debate you won't ever be perfect. It's easy for us to sit behind a laptop and be critical and say, well I would've said this or said that. No, you probably wouldn't have.
Onehappydawg I see what you're saying but since everything is he said about Muhammad and The Quran is basically wrong I think that should be pointed out. At least some of it. Especially with that many people listening- thats a lot of falsehood being spread.
@Truth Teller Actually I'm a libertarian , married with children and will put my education and knowledge up against yours any day. I dont believe in magic . I dont hold beliefs . I accept facts supported by evidence and dont have any imaginary friends. Anything else dumb to assume?
@Truth Teller Haha . The theory of evolution and Big Bang Theory are both objectively verifiable. Your bronze age superstition is not verifiable in any way. it takes faith to believe such things and there is no rational reason to believe something not supported with evidence. You keep talking about IQ . You arent demonstrating any such superiority. Please provide evidence that supports your claim that evolution or big bang cosmology is false. I'll wait
@Truth Teller Exactly as I suspected. When faced with providing evidence to support absurd claims. The magic believer attempts to deflect. If you dont understand science then thats your problem, Lil Bucky. You just keep believing bronze age mythology. Dont attempt to read scientific literature. You dont have the mind for it. Stick to your book of fables
@Truth Teller Still flappin at the jibs , magic believer? Still waiting on the evidence that falsifies evolution or the big bang. Cant really take you seriously. After all you believe that humans come from blowing on dirt. lmfao
@K P that is an incredibley long comment, so much that im not even going to read it all.... So just answer this - do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh ? ....
I've always listened to Cliffe before, but always with the atheist mindset, so I would always dismiss his claims right off jump street. Now that I'm born again, I've been trying to broaden my horizons. I came across a TH-cam short of Cliffe demolishing this girls claim about "believing in Jesus Christ if she could see the medical records." Cliffe's response was absolutely brilliant. I've been watching his videos ever since. There's still some things I don't entirely agree with, but then again do any of us truly agree with absolutely everything? I think Cliffe is a wonderful apologist and truly confronts the questions he's being asked. And he's not dishonest about answering difficult questions. He's consistent with saying "I don't know" when he can't give a genuine answer, and when he can give an answer, it's always to the best of his ability even if the participants don't agree with the answer.
The man in the white t-shirt can become a better apologetic if trained and experience more. It was good to see someone with fervent heart to defend the truth of Christ. I hope more young followers of Christ would defend the truth of God like Cliffe had been doing for decades.
Why I love watching these videos to learn and see how to defend the faith in Christ and have a real logic stance with facts and giving people something to think about rather than what they hearsay
At 15:32 you could see how a father looks at a son with such blissful pride, seeing his son tackle a precariously sensitive stance with great composure and grace.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 this is honestly the first platform I've seen that is this calm, but I think it is also the vibes that Cliff gives off. They are very calm themselves and welcoming. You can tell it is simply about logic, questioning, how you can verify the Bible, etc. He has more recent ones too doesn't he? I've yet to see who that hasn't been like this.
You could tell that Cliff is very proud of his son. Look at cliff's face as he is sitting on the steps and watching his son refute the misinformed Muslim. You can tell that Cliff is very uneasy when talking to Muslims however his son took the bull by the horns and I think as time goes by he will only get better and better at it.
Freda B yes I know. Also if you watch cliffe's videos he often says "Yep"and "you bet". I can hear Stuarte saying the exact same phrases like his dad does.
The muslim guy used extortion as an example of mercy! Oh man, I wish you would have nailed him on that! Jizya was described as text book extortion. Pay me or they will kill you for what you believe. Goodness gracious that's not even close to mercy. I would've made this guy look really bad. Good video though. Thanks guys.
Last issue about the birds and clay. That’s taken right out of the infancy gospel of Thomas. Kinda disappointed that the answerer didn’t bring this up. Infancy gospel is a forgery written far after the original gospels and is a gnostic writing iirc. It’s titled with legendary development and Mohammad took this story, thought it was true and copied it into the Quran.
Self-searching for an answer is better than receiving it from someone. It's more formative to self-discover the "truth" by subjective or objective experience. People, books and media are simply references and not necessarily resonate with your wellbeing and life.
Muslims claim Muhamad is mentioned in the Bible. Muslims reason that, since the Hebrew for "altogether lovely" is machmadim, and machmadim sounds somewhat similar to the name "Muhammad," the verse is actually referring to Muhammad by name. This is pretty odd and illogical. 1. But muslims still insists this is Muhamad. Hebrew word " מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים" it says: pronunciation :ma-ḥă-mad-dîm; English meaning: [is] lovely Morph: Noun So it is clear that מַחֲמַדִּ֑ is a name and pronounced: "Muhammad" 2. מחמדים Mem = מ Het = ח Mem = מ Dalet = ד Majestic Plural = ים Mhmd or محمد Its clearly Mhmd Hebrew letters without Vouls. The Original Hebrew Bible was written without Vouls. In that case, lets assume it is. The word machmad is used in many places in the Old Testament. It refers to something pleasing, treasured, or lovely. So if machmad is actually Muhammad's name, we need to be consistent and say that wherever the word machmad is used, it's referring to Muhammad. 1. Song of Solomon, chapter 5, verse 16. - His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem. But in chapter 7, verse 10, she says, "I belong to my beloved, and his desire is for me." Since Muhammad is her beloved (according to the Islamic interpretation), she declares in 7:10 that she belongs to Muhammad and that Muhammad desires her. How did Solomon's bride belong to Muhammad? Why would Muhammad desire a woman who had been dead for more than fifteen centuries? 2. Ezekiel 24:16 - "Son of man, with one blow I am about to take away from you the delight of your eyes. Yet do not lament or weep or shed any tears. Ezekiel's wife is called "machmad," because she's treasured by Ezekiel. So if machmad means "Muhammad," Muhammad must have been Ezekiel's wife. 3. Ezekiel 24:21 - Say to the people of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am about to desecrate my sanctuary--the stronghold in which you take pride, the delight of your eyes, the object of your affection. The sons and daughters you left behind will fall by the sword. The word "delight" here is machmad. So if machmad is the name "Muhammad," God is promising to desecrate Muhammad. This is what happens when Muslims try to force Muhammad into the Bible.
“Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, [even if they are] of the People of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [tribute] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (Sura 9:29). Sounds pretty clear to me.
A great moment concerning the Story of Jesus making a bird out of clay would’ve been demonstrating that the Quran was not the first piece of literature to mention that event. The first time the story was written was in the gnostic gospel of Thomas. Which was shown to be a forgery. Not written by Thomas the apostle. That’s where it comes from the story originated from.
Cliffe is still the nice with it, his son is going to be a problem(in a good way) if he keeps studying and picks up some techniques from his pops! Bless up!
The muslim is practicing Taqiyya, and Cliff will not put his foot down against him. The quran teaches very simply to annihilate the infidel and infidel is anyone who will not submit to allah.
We need to be careful when we accuse Muslims of Taqiyya. It has been my experience that most layman Muslims genuinely believe for example that Muhammad was a good man, they genuinely believe that the Quran is full of scientific miracles. They believe these things because they simply believe what they have been taught from a very young age and they have never thought to question their beliefs and investigate the claims for themselves.
Like literally every other way to forgive a sin in Islam is freeing a slave . You can't change an uncivilized society with strict laws, you need to work them in to civility.
Muslim friend: “Mohamed is mentioned by name” Cliffe: “Where” Muslim friend: “Google it rn” Cliffe: “Where” Muslim friend: “Hebrew” Cliffe: “Where” Muslim friend: “Hagar” Cliffe: “Okay and?” Muslim friend: “Lineage”
i understand that this student was frustrated, but i respect him because he was, to an extent, educated more than most on what he was arguing for and so his frustration was coming from a reasonable place of doing his own studies and wondering why no one else was doing the same, applying critical thinking, and doing the hard part of really trying to understand and apply what they believe. At the end of the day Jesus is Lord and King of kings and there is none beside or before him.
There were so many points where that muslim man messed up. His responses weren't even really answers. Also unfortunately I don't know the man in the white t-shirt, but I feel as if Cliff could've caught the muslim man in many of his "points".
Thanks, makes sense. But yeah maybe its just an experience thing. He did good. It was just "catching" the "mess ups". If that makes sense. Thanks again.
Sometimes it's best to just let them speak and dig their own hole. I notice that Muslims can just twist and talk about the most menial points. But letting this man speak his point without something to bounce off of, it really just shows itself for what it is.
Muslims are professionals of making connections out of thin air. Al-Samawal al-Maghribi referred to Deuteronomy 33:2 as a prophecy of Muhammad. He said that Mount Sinai refers to Moses, Mount Seir "the Mount of Esau" refers to Jesus, and Mount Paran "the Mount of Ishmael" refers to Muhammad. Since then, many Muslim scholars have looked to Deuteronomy 33 as containing a prophetic prediction of Muhammad.
Shir HaShirim (Song of Songs) 5:16 uses the word machamadim which means desirable, lovely, etc. It is not synonymous with, or related to, Muhammad. The book can be considered a love poem between Solomon and Sheba and an allegory of the love between the bride (the disciples of Yeshua) and the Bridegroom (Yeshua).
I used to think that a deep and thorough understanding of Islam is necessary to witness to Muslims. It isn't. Just because you don't have the vast knowledge of David Wood, God can still use you to reach Muslims with the gospel. You need two things: 1) a very basic knowledge of Islam 2) a deep understanding of the gospel That's it. Victory belongs to the Lord.
Him: Mohammed is mentioned in the Old Testament
Cliffe: Where is Mohammed mentioned?
Him: You gotta read the Hebrew
Cliffe: I studied Hebrew. So, where is Mohammed mentioned in the Old Testament?
Him: I don’t know. Google it.
Everyone: 🤦🏽♂️
LOL this comment is funny!
Him: Where did you learn these errors about Islam?
Cliffe's son: Oxford.
Only the highest regarded university in the world
💙🤣🤣🔥
He had so much to say about almost everything and yet said little truth. The inconsistencies were adding up left and right.
Oxford. 😁
a troll for sure . He would trust anything in google written by some abduls but he won't trust the eye witness testimony.
In the Old Testament there is no mention of Muhammad. This is a lie from Ahmed Deedat. Are Muslims just copy/paste? In the Song of the Solomon it reads in Hebrew as Muhammadin Muhammadin which does not refer to the Muhammad of Arabia at all.
Next, I am ex-Muslim. I am a Christian now. I will not lie about Muhammad. Neither did I lie when I was a Muslim. When I recognised the truths about Muhammad during my time as a Muslim while I was reading the source documents (Quran, Sira, Hadiths etc.) I realised he is NOT a prophet of any god and a liar, deceiver and what not. I am glad I was honest when I was a Muslim. I recognised Islam and left it. I am glad I did not lied or deceived myself or others to defend Islam. As now I am a Christian, I believe I am same in respect to Christ. And I tell you, the person of Christ always comes out with flying colors as the Son of God.
It is sad to see Muslims read about Roman Empires and so many other things just to defend Muhammad. Too much mental gymnastics. Not worth it. Very sad.
Be honest people (specially Muslims), Please, be honest. The door to Christ is always open for you, why defend the filthy Muhammad?
Zakariya Razi amen, jesus will guide your way brother in christ
Amen, thank you for your honesty. God Jesus bless you.
Blessings to you and rejoice that you found the truth. I'm always interested in what Muslim has to say because it's like a knock off version of Christianity.
The Muslim man in the video had many views of the bible that were simply false, but the glaring part was misunderstanding the difference and reason for christ dying.
came from tiktok and l have been enjoying this content more then ever
Same!!!
😱😱😱me too
same here
Imperishable Gold that Christ wants us to receive 😭🙏🏾🙏🏾🚦
I love how Cliffs' son stepped in,it was cool to watch Cliffe sit back and be proud
He sat back because the Muslim Lad completely destroyed him, he has no answer and watch how angry and aggressive Cliff gets if a young person does not agree and submit
@@Ckrisg1 The muslim guy has not proved a single claim about what he said. Please stop blowing snake oil.
@@JinKazama92 Why the aggression then? no argument respond with anger. The Muslim lad owned him
@@Ckrisg1
Muslim Lad: Muhammad is mentioned in the old testament
Cliff: Show me where he is mentioned in the old testament
Muslim Lad: I don't know
You call this winning an argument?
@@JinKazama92 Completely ignored my point and its all BS anyway from both of them, ask Cliff about Slavery in the Bible and he will break one of the 10 by lying through his teeth
cliff and stuart knechtle your family is beautiful. keep on preaching the good news. legacy!!!!
Cliffe and son continue to study islam more in depth bcuz there's so many points you could have refuted him on if you knew more on the subjects!
God bless!
Not every point has to be refuted. When that is done it turns into an argument. You want to stay focused on the main thing and not get pulled into side arguments. Sometimes you have to just let them talk then steer the conversation back to where you want it.
Plus, when your shooting from the hip in a public debate you won't ever be perfect. It's easy for us to sit behind a laptop and be critical and say, well I would've said this or said that. No, you probably wouldn't have.
Onehappydawg I see what you're saying but since everything is he said about Muhammad and The Quran is basically wrong I think that should be pointed out. At least some of it. Especially with that many people listening- thats a lot of falsehood being spread.
***** You can't be serious...
Exactly what was "wrong"?
***** I'm sorry but that holds no historical value.
cliffe is one proud dad.
I appreciate how much time they gave to the young man. That’s very loving, and their response was very kind. Preach that good news fam!
Did he just say that the Quran is Perfection?....... .... hahahahhahahahha
This Muslim is so deluded. Either he truly believes all this crap about "beautiful Islam" or he's just saying what he thinks people want to hear.
He is no more deluded than is a christian or any other religion
@Truth Teller Actually I'm a libertarian , married with children and will put my education and knowledge up against yours any day. I dont believe in magic . I dont hold beliefs . I accept facts supported by evidence and dont have any imaginary friends. Anything else dumb to assume?
@Truth Teller Haha . The theory of evolution and Big Bang Theory are both objectively verifiable. Your bronze age superstition is not verifiable in any way. it takes faith to believe such things and there is no rational reason to believe something not supported with evidence. You keep talking about IQ . You arent demonstrating any such superiority. Please provide evidence that supports your claim that evolution or big bang cosmology is false. I'll wait
@Truth Teller Exactly as I suspected. When faced with providing evidence to support absurd claims. The magic believer attempts to deflect. If you dont understand science then thats your problem, Lil Bucky. You just keep believing bronze age mythology. Dont attempt to read scientific literature. You dont have the mind for it. Stick to your book of fables
@Truth Teller Still flappin at the jibs , magic believer? Still waiting on the evidence that falsifies evolution or the big bang. Cant really take you seriously. After all you believe that humans come from blowing on dirt. lmfao
Cliff you and your son are awesome, God has truly used both of you, God bless
Aᥴᥴordιᥒg to thᥱ Korᥲᥒ, ᥲ ᥒoᥒ-Mᥙsᥣιm ιs ᥣᥱss thᥲᥒ ᥒothιᥒg: "To Aᥣᥣᥲh, thᥱrᥱ ᥲrᥱ ᥒo ᥲᥒιmᥲᥣs vιᥣᥱr thᥲᥒ thosᥱ ᥕho do ᥒot bᥱᥣιᥱvᥱ ᥲᥒd rᥱmᥲιᥒ ᥙᥒbᥱᥣιᥱvᥱrs" (Sᥙrᥲ 8:55). Thᥲt ιs ᥕhყ ιt ιs ᥒᥱᥴᥱssᥲrყ to Isᥣᥲmιzᥱ thᥱm bყ forᥴᥱ ᥲᥒd bყ hᥙmιᥣιᥲtιoᥒ. Aᥒd thosᥱ ᥕho rᥱsιst Isᥣᥲm ᥲᥒd ιts foᥙᥒdᥱr mᥙst bᥱ ᥴhᥲstιsᥱd, ᥲᥴᥴordιᥒg to thᥱ Korᥲᥒ: "Hᥱrᥱ ιs thᥱ fᥲtᥱ of thosᥱ ᥕho fιght Aᥣᥣᥲh ᥲᥒd hιs mᥱssᥱᥒgᥱr: ყoᥙ ᥕιᥣᥣ ρᥙt thᥱm to dᥱᥲth or ყoᥙ ᥕιᥣᥣ mᥲkᥱ thᥱm sᥙffᥱr thᥱ tortᥙrᥱ of thᥱ ᥴross; ყoᥙ ᥕιᥣᥣ ᥴᥙt thᥱιr hᥲᥒds ᥲᥒd thᥱιr fᥱᥱt ᥲᥣtᥱrᥒᥲtᥱᥣყ. Thᥱყ ᥕιᥣᥣ bᥱ drιvᥱᥒ from thᥱ ᥴoᥙᥒtrყ" (Sᥙrᥲ 5:33). Aᥒd, sιᥒᥴᥱ thᥱ Mᥙsᥣιms ᥲrᥱ rᥱᥲᥣιsts, thᥱყ tᥲkᥱ ιᥒto ᥲᥴᥴoᥙᥒt ᥴιrᥴᥙmstᥲᥒᥴᥱs ᥲᥒd mᥲkᥱ, ᥲᥴᥴordιᥒgᥣყ, tᥱmρorᥲrყ ρᥱᥲᥴᥱ or ᥕᥲr: "Do ᥒot dιsρᥣᥲყ ᥴoᥕᥲrdιᥴᥱ, ᥲᥒd do ᥒot ᥴᥲᥣᥣ thᥱ ιᥒfιdᥱᥣs to ρᥱᥲᥴᥱ ᥕhᥱᥒ ყoᥙ ᥲrᥱ sᥙρᥱrιor to thᥱm" (Sᥙrᥲ 47:35).
Yikes. Very contradictory to Jesus.
Oh man that's forcing, Jesus Christ even said that we should Love our neighbors as we love ourselves.
Two words: DAVID WOOD
CHRISTIAN PRINCE
SAM SHAMOUN
Praise Yeshua. 🙏
@K P that is an incredibley long comment, so much that im not even going to read it all.... So just answer this - do you believe that Jesus is God in the flesh ? ....
@KP-vp8bz blud really wrote a poem 😂
Cliffe is so patient...
Cliffe gets to sit down for a change
Keep up the great work, these are very important discussions that aren't had enough in our world today. Very good food for the brain.
I've always listened to Cliffe before, but always with the atheist mindset, so I would always dismiss his claims right off jump street. Now that I'm born again, I've been trying to broaden my horizons. I came across a TH-cam short of Cliffe demolishing this girls claim about "believing in Jesus Christ if she could see the medical records." Cliffe's response was absolutely brilliant. I've been watching his videos ever since. There's still some things I don't entirely agree with, but then again do any of us truly agree with absolutely everything? I think Cliffe is a wonderful apologist and truly confronts the questions he's being asked. And he's not dishonest about answering difficult questions. He's consistent with saying "I don't know" when he can't give a genuine answer, and when he can give an answer, it's always to the best of his ability even if the participants don't agree with the answer.
The man in the white t-shirt can become a better apologetic if trained and experience more. It was good to see someone with fervent heart to defend the truth of Christ. I hope more young followers of Christ would defend the truth of God like Cliffe had been doing for decades.
I'm pretty sure he's Cliffe's son.
Why I love watching these videos to learn and see how to defend the faith in Christ and have a real logic stance with facts and giving people something to think about rather than what they hearsay
Finding these remind me of finding Billy Graham's sermons about 8yrs ago. Thank you Lord for your servants. All glory to God!!
At 15:32 you could see how a father looks at a son with such blissful pride, seeing his son tackle a precariously sensitive stance with great composure and grace.
The thing I love most about these videos is all the people sitting listening and not interrupting.almost like gods sermens
I'm afraid that now, in 2022 just five years later, that this sort of thing is significantly less common.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 this is honestly the first platform I've seen that is this calm, but I think it is also the vibes that Cliff gives off. They are very calm themselves and welcoming. You can tell it is simply about logic, questioning, how you can verify the Bible, etc.
He has more recent ones too doesn't he? I've yet to see who that hasn't been like this.
cliff must be very proud
You could tell that Cliff is very proud of his son. Look at cliff's face as he is sitting on the steps and watching his son refute the misinformed Muslim.
You can tell that Cliff is very uneasy when talking to Muslims however his son took the bull by the horns and I think as time goes by he will only get better and better at it.
I Accept passing on the mantle
Freda B yep, looking forward to it
I Accept he even has his body language like cliff does. I just came across these videos and I love them.
Freda B yes I know. Also if you watch cliffe's videos he often says "Yep"and "you bet". I can hear Stuarte saying the exact same phrases like his dad does.
The muslim guy used extortion as an example of mercy! Oh man, I wish you would have nailed him on that! Jizya was described as text book extortion. Pay me or they will kill you for what you believe. Goodness gracious that's not even close to mercy. I would've made this guy look really bad. Good video though. Thanks guys.
So happy youtube recommended this channel haha so good!
Love these sessions! Thank you Cliffe for your enlightenment.
That's like paying for "protection" from the mafia and it is far from merciful
I like this shorter intro a lot better.
Thank you, Cliffe.
I get so frustrated by the ending of the debate before it's over. I want to see the whole debate....
Please Bring David Wood on the phone when you have Muslim questions lol
Right on josh, I've learned so much from David about Islam , i can finally defend my position better.
He'd annihilate the middle east dude, he's the best trap card we have. we need him for the right exact moment
the David Wood video about "Qu'ran Only Muslims" is a good one to listen to with this video.
Don't forget about Jay Smith tho!!!
Lets not forget Brigette Gabriel
That was so cool. He totally looks like Cliff. Obviously his son. lolol. God bless your son and your ministry!
Like father like son: keep it up!
Awesome, thanks.
My Moslem friends have a lot of words with no evidence...I'm not surprised by this guy
Great job Stuart!
Muhammad NEVER abolished slavery
The guy in the back looks irritated! lol
Welp googled “is Muhammad in the Old Testament” and well turns out he’s not
I enjoyed the debate more than the commercial at the 21:00 minute mark. I was disappointed that we couldn't see the end of this debate.
The Jizia is merciful. Pay me a tax and no one will break your windows. I seen that on the Soprano’s.
cliffs son crushed it-- Great job!
Praise GOD ( I AM THAT I AM ) in the name of JESUS!!!!!!
Love the new guy! Keep up the great work!!
Last issue about the birds and clay. That’s taken right out of the infancy gospel of Thomas. Kinda disappointed that the answerer didn’t bring this up. Infancy gospel is a forgery written far after the original gospels and is a gnostic writing iirc. It’s titled with legendary development and Mohammad took this story, thought it was true and copied it into the Quran.
Deep conversation. Respect
Self-searching for an answer is better than receiving it from someone. It's more formative to self-discover the "truth" by subjective or objective experience. People, books and media are simply references and not necessarily resonate with your wellbeing and life.
We need a part 2! Real good. Also ya get David wood. Haha
There will be more videos
And they're out
Muslims claim Muhamad is mentioned in the Bible. Muslims reason that, since the Hebrew for "altogether lovely" is machmadim, and machmadim sounds somewhat similar to the name "Muhammad," the verse is actually referring to Muhammad by name.
This is pretty odd and illogical.
1. But muslims still insists this is Muhamad.
Hebrew word " מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים" it says:
pronunciation :ma-ḥă-mad-dîm;
English meaning: [is] lovely
Morph: Noun
So it is clear that מַחֲמַדִּ֑ is a name and pronounced: "Muhammad"
2. מחמדים
Mem = מ
Het = ח
Mem = מ
Dalet = ד
Majestic Plural = ים
Mhmd or محمد
Its clearly Mhmd Hebrew letters without Vouls.
The Original Hebrew Bible was written without Vouls.
In that case, lets assume it is.
The word machmad is used in many places in the Old Testament. It refers to something pleasing, treasured, or lovely. So if machmad is actually Muhammad's name, we need to be consistent and say that wherever the word machmad is used, it's referring to Muhammad.
1. Song of Solomon, chapter 5, verse 16. - His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem.
But in chapter 7, verse 10, she says, "I belong to my beloved, and his desire is for me." Since Muhammad is her beloved (according to the Islamic interpretation), she declares in 7:10 that she belongs to Muhammad and that Muhammad desires her. How did Solomon's bride belong to Muhammad? Why would Muhammad desire a woman who had been dead for more than fifteen centuries?
2. Ezekiel 24:16 - "Son of man, with one blow I am about to take away from you the delight of your eyes. Yet do not lament or weep or shed any tears.
Ezekiel's wife is called "machmad," because she's treasured by Ezekiel. So if machmad means "Muhammad," Muhammad must have been Ezekiel's wife.
3. Ezekiel 24:21 - Say to the people of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am about to desecrate my sanctuary--the stronghold in which you take pride, the delight of your eyes, the object of your affection. The sons and daughters you left behind will fall by the sword.
The word "delight" here is machmad. So if machmad is the name "Muhammad," God is promising to desecrate Muhammad.
This is what happens when Muslims try to force Muhammad into the Bible.
Thank you for doing what you do!
Is there maybe part 2 of this video
Tough to reach those so full of misdirection in inaccuracies.
Lol, infidels is such a sarcastic title. Love it
Lol
the clay thing was borrowed from the gnostics
is there a follow up on the boy, as they agreed to meet the next day ?
Where the rest of the video!!!!!!!!???????😭😭😭😭😭😭
The Old Testament is not older then YHASHUA for HE is before everything.....HE is THE CREATOR
I really wanted to see the rest of that conversation.😔
This guy said Hadith are not reliable. He pray five times a day. But he can’t tell you where it is in the Quran
This was an excellent video.
Muhammed is mentioned in Genesis 3:1 ... or was that Satan?.. ohh what's the difference?... they're both crafty serpents
sunnah.com/muslim/1/280
crafty serpents????
No, never. Check out christian prince (TH-cam) debunking Islam. Go debate Christian Prince.
@@worfoz David wood destroys Islam with your own sources
😂... Yes.. This is True!!!!! He is mentioned there.. 100%. Lol.
Stu knew Quran better than Muslim guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can someone link me to the continued part of this? I need to see the rest of their argument.
“Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, [even if they are] of the People of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the jizya [tribute] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (Sura 9:29). Sounds pretty clear to me.
A great moment concerning the Story of Jesus making a bird out of clay would’ve been demonstrating that the Quran was not the first piece of literature to mention that event. The first time the story was written was in the gnostic gospel of Thomas. Which was shown to be a forgery. Not written by Thomas the apostle. That’s where it comes from the story originated from.
Cliffe is still the nice with it, his son is going to be a problem(in a good way) if he keeps studying and picks up some techniques from his pops! Bless up!
Great meme 😄 definitely going to be out there another 20 years like cliffe
Man this guy wants to fight. Body language is just violent
A couple of drinks in that guy and say a few truths about his “prophet”, and I bet he would start swinging on you
I love this guy, he is spot on point in his ministry.
The muslim is practicing Taqiyya, and Cliff will not put his foot down against him. The quran teaches very simply to annihilate the infidel and infidel is anyone who will not submit to allah.
We need to be careful when we accuse Muslims of Taqiyya. It has been my experience that most layman Muslims genuinely believe for example that Muhammad was a good man, they genuinely believe that the Quran is full of scientific miracles. They believe these things because they simply believe what they have been taught from a very young age and they have never thought to question their beliefs and investigate the claims for themselves.
Chris...exact same thing with Christians. All religions.
Building stronger families. The Christian conservative is all about that. The liberal is completely against that.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Thank you for being a good teacher.
"Muhammad eliminated slavery." 🤣🤣 Liar
Like literally every other way to forgive a sin in Islam is freeing a slave . You can't change an uncivilized society with strict laws, you need to work them in to civility.
@@JokstaifyMuhammad was a disgusting slave master and he mounted a child. He was evil to the core.
The passive aggressive way he tries to embarrass and question intelligence is a very familiar tactic.
Muslim friend: “Mohamed is mentioned by name”
Cliffe: “Where”
Muslim friend: “Google it rn”
Cliffe: “Where”
Muslim friend: “Hebrew”
Cliffe: “Where”
Muslim friend: “Hagar”
Cliffe: “Okay and?”
Muslim friend: “Lineage”
Cliffe how does the number system in these videos work and who is the young man with you in this video?
His son, Pastor Stuart.
John 10:10
Taqiya is real, this guy is a walking example.
Why do people go to church on Sunday the first day of the week not on the sabbath
Young man no different than all of us.......he needs Christ.
For what and christ is a title not a name,
When their reasoning runs flat they start becoming insulting and aggresive
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This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
I agree cliffe need to study more details on inslam
That guy is a smooth talking liar. He hides behind equivocation.
Not so smooth. He couldn't put together a coherent sentence without interrupting himself with a new random thought.
There is nothing beautiful about Islam Muslim or the Quran I don't know what that guy was smoking
This guys been kissing the black stone WAY TOO MUCH! Stop licking the stone buddy!
CLIFF AND STUART WERE A BIT DEFENSIVE TODAY
I agree
look how cliff look at his son man
i understand that this student was frustrated, but i respect him because he was, to an extent, educated more than most on what he was arguing for and so his frustration was coming from a reasonable place of doing his own studies and wondering why no one else was doing the same, applying critical thinking, and doing the hard part of really trying to understand and apply what they believe. At the end of the day Jesus is Lord and King of kings and there is none beside or before him.
“It’s based on good works. What your gonna tell me God will save Hitler vs a normal Muslim”
Yes, exactly
14:06 he's literally praising mob like extorsion
The best part is when he says"they've been brainwashed" 7:44
whoa camcorder upgrade?
Talking about paying the Jiziah tax to be subjugated into humiliation for no believers pay or die
What College or University campus is this?
A liberal one...haha
UT Austin. There are many 'AC' Videos from there. Pastor Cliffe said he has been going there for 30 yrs.
Where due to the Saudi invasion of Million$, there is a Sharia Business Course.
There were so many points where that muslim man messed up. His responses weren't even really answers. Also unfortunately I don't know the man in the white t-shirt, but I feel as if Cliff could've caught the muslim man in many of his "points".
Thanks, makes sense. But yeah maybe its just an experience thing. He did good. It was just "catching" the "mess ups". If that makes sense. Thanks again.
Sometimes it's best to just let them speak and dig their own hole. I notice that Muslims can just twist and talk about the most menial points. But letting this man speak his point without something to bounce off of, it really just shows itself for what it is.
Assistant Pastor Stuart
Muslims are professionals of making connections out of thin air. Al-Samawal al-Maghribi referred to Deuteronomy 33:2 as a prophecy of Muhammad. He said that Mount Sinai refers to Moses, Mount Seir "the Mount of Esau" refers to Jesus, and Mount Paran "the Mount of Ishmael" refers to Muhammad. Since then, many Muslim scholars have looked to Deuteronomy 33 as containing a prophetic prediction of Muhammad.
Unfortunateny i dont know where! Loll
Shir HaShirim (Song of Songs) 5:16 uses the word machamadim which means desirable, lovely, etc. It is not synonymous with, or related to, Muhammad. The book can be considered a love poem between Solomon and Sheba and an allegory of the love between the bride (the disciples of Yeshua) and the Bridegroom (Yeshua).
I used to think that a deep and thorough understanding of Islam is necessary to witness to Muslims. It isn't. Just because you don't have the vast knowledge of David Wood, God can still use you to reach Muslims with the gospel. You need two things:
1) a very basic knowledge of Islam
2) a deep understanding of the gospel
That's it. Victory belongs to the Lord.
"... I'm sorry for you ..." -- it feels like used as an insult rather than a compassionate statement.
that dude behind that talking dude, looking tight; or is just me?