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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2017
- Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
When I had become a new Christian, I had a dream one night about my eyes being turned backwards, looking at me. I knew immediately what it meant and wrote a poem about it. It was meant to show me how quickly I see everyone else's sins when I read the scriptures, but needed to read it in order to scrutinize myself instead. That was 35 years ago. God alone is good... still.
According to this young man ,"Catholic Church mistreated women". Repeatedly he brings up the issue of Nuns in the catholic church. Illiteracy about Catholicism is rampant in the US and instead of depending on half baked information they should do right research. What people should understand is that Catholic men or women don't become priests, monks and nuns by coercion. Nuns like the monks take up three vows: Poverty, obedience, and Chastity. The orthodox Church and even Anglican Church have nuns. By these vows they are consecrated to God. Among all the great saints Mary the mother of Christ is considered the greatest of all saints. That's a woman who is considered greater than any man. The Catholic Church's history is strewn with nuns who were outstanding saints. In our own times we witnessed Mother Teresa's (she was a nun, and thank God she was a nun) example of living like Christ. Nuns run old age homes, orphanages, schools and hospitals as a part of their vow of Obedience to Christ's teaching of practicing charity. They must also teach the true faith and the Holy Tradition of the Catholic Church. The contributions of nuns to societies around the world are immeasurable. Habits are a matter of self-discipline and part of the vow of chastity and poverty. To say that nuns or monks are forced to shave their heads is untrue because that is part of their consecration in the religious order. Such practices along with several times in the day for prayer and fasting were introduced to allow them to dedicate and focus their efforts on spiritual aspects. These aspects of monasticism have their roots in the first monks (Antony of the Desert and Paul of Thebes) who lived in the Egyptian desert in the third century AD. These monks led austere pious lives in hardships to dedicate their lives to prayer, teaching, service, and contemplation of the scriptures. It is from these experiences and legacies that the religious orders of monks and Nuns have originated. The Catholic Church holds Nuns in very high esteem.
Yes and amen. We need to be careful with the log in our own eye first! Love to you in Christ! God bless you.
Awesome Awesome. I love Cliff's monologue at the end.
I had no idea Camus had become a Christian before he was killed. He must've been ready to go when he died.
And imagine so many atheist rely heavily on Camus and never evolve the way he did. We don't realize how many people we actually lead to hell, just for us to wake up And be redeemed, they keep marching on, which shows they weren't authentic in the search they were followers of the enemy.
A great philosopher is about evolving and just to realise after all that searching there's only (One)God at the end.
You can study and practice Buddhism, Hinduism and reach nirvana but what's after Nirvana....you realize you gotta go through Christ(the son) to reach God(the father).
After all that searching there was only God at the end.
I thank God for the opportunity to return to his loving arms. I'm so thankful he didn't allow me to die in my sins.
I pray for my sons everyday that God is patient with them.
Hi Rosalyn, I don't think Cliffe said outright that Camus became a Christian, if I recall he said "he almost certainly became a Christian". I've not seen anything definitive to say he converted, I think it would have been picked up by the mainstream media of the day. And I'm sure Albert Camus himself would have said something about it.
The woman at the well was the first apologist. She went into the town and told everyone how Jesus knew everything about her.
you slayed that young man...
YESSSSSSSS NEW EPISODE ,!!. I GET SO HAPPY WHEN A NEW EPISODE IS RELEASED, KEEP THEM COMING CLIFFE !! LOVE FROM TORONTO CANADA! +
Do you know Jordan Peterson?
Me too :) Love from Bangalore , India. God bless you Pastor Cliff.
ye but Jordan Peterson doesnt explain enough the ideas of christ , theyre simply foot notes to cliffes ;)
The young man reads a bible verse slow, clear and with hand gestures as if he discovered something new that perhaps we Christians have never heard before. 😄 Love it. Keep on sharing the Word my brothers and sisters! 👍
Dude says three chapters, then points to the four gospel books. 😂
Watching, May 2024. Jesus bless Cliffe and his ministry...✝️💞✌🙏
Just keep reading don't let him stop!! 1Corinthians 11:16, "...But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God..." The rest of the verses completely disproves the argument of this guy. Just like Cliffe said, don't take verses out of context.
Listening is fundamental...
This one is fire 🔥🔥🔥
Best one I've seen yet and I've watched over 100 of them.
GOD bless Cliffe and co. 🙏💖
Best man ever ❤
Tag team destroying this know it all! Great job. And kudos for the kid getting the debate juices flowing for lots of truth on display by Cliffe & Son.
Love it, this is reminiscent of the Greeks who valued discourse in the agora. We are not under Greek symposium today, otherwise we would gather in lounge chairs, sipping on wine, and you could zonk out if you wanted to, as long as you stay on the current topic at hand whenever you're awakened :-)
I like this TH-cam channel and what Cliffe does with this ministry, but it seems to me, at times, he lets his passion take control. I understand he is trying to make a sincere, good, strong point(s), but those same points could have been made in a more loving way. No hate intended here. Just shows Cliffe is mere human and has feet of clay, like All us humans.
Tuff love
Stop telling preachers how to preach.
Cliffe, you and Stuart are amazing. If you ever come to England; please visit Liverpool 😋 I’d love to meet you both and hear you debate some of the lost souls in my city
I never seen Stuart arguments was brilliant!
Thank you
Stuart is on 🔥 💯
Another great episode!
I Am So With the first Guy on this one. But I think his idea of sexism is my idea of Godly Instruction. Women are Not to usurp Authority. As Adam was created first. Cliffe Did not like the fact that this guy saw right through his rhetoric.
Women are just as equal in Value as we are all one In Christ. But their position is Different.
As Christ is subject to the Father Even as he is the Alpha and Omega.
However the Guy never really points out how he believes women should be treated.
And any female apostle present should come too mind....
God > CHRIST >man>women>child
Women cannot be a pastor or a deacon .
Dont like it take it to God in prayer
I hate to say it but it must be said. It's really a cop out, and I'll explain why, to say that hey this is what they did in that ancient culture, but it's not necessary or appropriate in this culture of ours today. If it works it works regardless of the year. Be it 2017 or 50AD. Female submission isn't a bad thing if the ensuing peace brings with it, happiness to all. And yes it does bring peace and happiness. Wearing hats by females in church brings peace. Women not preaching in churches brings peace and makes for a strong church not a weak one. But isn't it fascinating how people don't know or realise this. Why is this? It's because they aren't observant enough to discern the beneficial results of such modest actions, on the part of women. They can't see it. Wise women want everything to go well for their families ( and many would wear hats or stand on their heads if it's going to help achieve this ) and if by embracing these wise practices, produces peace, accompanied by happiness, then why wouldn't she most cheerfully and most willingly do it. She will. Instead men, who could yet be wiser, who do not actually recognise these benefits, that can be gained by all from these wise practices, resulting from women operating this way, are men, even though they are good and compassionate men, are nevertheless men yet to realise that these aforementioned benefits are actually true. These men are simply not aware that the bible is still absolutely right regarding these issues for today.It is their lack of this particular appreciation resulting from their lack of discernment in this area, which happened to be so obvious to Paul the great apostle, that great genius, that puts these good men most unhappily in a position whereby they cannot explain these benefits to the women, simply because with their lack of discernment they do not see them. And hence they unwisely conclude that these benefits are non existent. They simply don't realise it and therefore they believe that these benefits are not true. But they are true. I can explain this in much greater detail if you want me to and prove it. Why is divorce rampant today? It's not rocket science. The main cause is lack of submission on the part women which ultimately makes both her and her husband unhappy. This is most certainly not any kind of criticism towards women. Men are to blame too for not being the men that they should be. Those who are wise will be found walking on the pathway of submission. We have to submit to God and love and fear Him. We have to submit to our parents. If God created me to be a women I would certainly and most wisely be in all appropriate submission for the good of all. But God made me to be a man and therefore I look like a man and behave as a man. Jesus Christ was a man who walked and talked and behaved as a man. If God made me to be a great King then perhaps I wouldn't necessarily relish the sight of all those bowed heads and courtesies but nevertheless that's what I would have to accept for the good of all, if I was indeed a king. And so too as a man, I must accept my protective role of manhood along with accepting women's submission. I don't particularly enjoy the sight of women being submissive but it's my role in life to accept it, for the good of all. If we are truly a royal priesthood we must minister first to others and put their needs ahead of ours. If we are a peculiar people let us not be anxious to emulate those who are perishing. Perhaps to those, who are going down the tubes, we might appear to be weird but isn't it better to please God our Saviour than please the spitting lost who actually spit in the face of God whom we love. Our God. The one true God. We know this is true for how can we ever forget that we too were once upon a time lost to God. Yes we praise God, that we have been found. And that we no longer live to please the lost. We instead live to please God. Ah if the women wore hats in church, those who are perishing might think we are odd or peculiar. Therefore in order to look cool in the eyes of the lost, we modify our behaviour with the hope that we might ingratiate ourselves with them, the lost. Instead our focus should be one of ingratiating ourselves with God by fearing Him and keeping His commandments, who is our God whom we love and not the world. Therefore let's not conform ourselves to the world. Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world : but be Ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that Ye may prove what is good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Guy have master in pulling verses. 😂😂😂
I believe the toque on this kids head is over heating his brain.
Cliffe, where does the Bible teach that there can be female pastors and where it is good in the eyes of God for women not to wear a head covering? Nowhere...
Duke - SWT Mate What's wrong with God requiring women to wear a head covering while praying in church or limiting pastors to just men?
chemiah Nothing.
No where is it written in the Bible, that women are to be pastors. As Pastor Knechtle said, he spoke within the writing of the custom for that time in Corinth.
www.gty.org/library/bibleqnas-library/QA0219/head-coverings-for-women
Are we just gonna pretend that bro wasn’t having a seizure at 8:05?
He tried to play it off with a stretch move,lol!
I agree with 1st Corinthians 11
To me it seems that the young tall man wearing the beanie hat is making valid points. If a woman isn't wise enough to submit to her husband then the lack of ensuring peace is the result her lack of wisdom, which prevented her submission. Yes it is wise for women to wear a hat in church. If all women did there would be,observed by the wise observer, a greater peace in the congregation. But no one does it today. Why? Fashion, that's why. Why do people get hideous tattoos? Fashion. If women preach they weaken the men. Why? Men do not want to be told what to do by women, and the keen observer clearly sees the ill effects of a women preaching. It weakens the church. Paul the great apostle speaks for all men when he says that he won't suffer a women to preach.
@paulwilfredhunt. Hi Paul, when you say about women submitting to her husband, would that include allowing him to have sex with her on demand? Many years ago there was no law against a married man having intercourse with his spouse if she didn't want to. Today we call that rape, in the UK anyway, I don't know about US laws.
Men are commanded by God to love their wives. If they love their wives they will cherish and care for them. No they won't selfishly abuse their wives for pleasure. It must be dreadful for a wife to have to tolerate the uncaring act of a husband selfishly gratifying himself at her expense and thereby alienating himself. We must submit to God but we know He won't abuse our submission and the same applies to our wives. Those who love their wives will do the right thing. Those who don't will be on the receiving end from God.
Hi Paul, I heartedly agree with you that a married man *should* love and cherish his wife, and vice versa, in an ideal world that would happen. Over the centuries women have had to fight to gain their rights, they have been treated very much as 2nd class citizens the further you go back through time. The bible states in various passages that the woman should love and obey her husband, no doubt over the years dominant males have abused this command. Perhaps the bible could have been clearer in defining what exactly 'obey' means in terms of marriage. 'Obey' covers a broad spectrum wouldn't you say.
In the eyes of those who are opposed to wisely submitting to God, we who wholeheartedly love God are desirous of being in submission to Him, are despised by these foolish ones for doing so. The fools are those who will not submit to God. But surely the favour of God offsets their disapproval. Many in the hope of gaining the admiration of the foolish will not submit to God. A life of submission to God is a pleasant one full of peace. A wise woman with a wise husband shall too enjoy peace and happiness resulting from her wise submission. She will be greatly loved by her husband who submits to God although she will be seen as foolish by those who are yet to be wise.
Hi Paul, thanks for that reply. In my case I wouldn't say I'm opposed to wisely submitting to God, I just don't see any credible evidence, I do however see lots of evidence for a world that exists without a God looking down on us. You are more than welcome to believe in a God. If I come across any good evidence of him ( or her), I will adjust my thinking, but it's not forthcoming as yet. I think what we both regard as 'wise' is probably poles apart.
Let’s be clear. Men don’t like being told what to do by women and neither do they enjoy being preached to by them. This doesn’t mean that they cannot be capable preachers. But let women preach to women and not to men.
How many of us men could have actually tolerated being preached to for 40 minutes by the12 year old son of Mary and Joseph, unless per chance we knew He was the son of God.
His youth would have threatened our masculinity and we would have felt showed up by him even though we would have recognised his wisdom as being far greater than our own. And on this same basis, men also feel showed up by women when they preach to us.
If you unwisely say it shouldn’t be so, then why don’t you expect the spots to change on the leopard. We should accept the way God has made us rather than say He has made a mistake and it shouldn’t be so.
A wise woman, who has preaching talents, recognises that she will weaken men if she preaches to them, therefore she puts the good of the church first, before her own desire to preach to a congregation that weaken the men.
Men feel superior to women usually because they are bigger and stronger. And hey in this area they usually are superior. But women too have their own superiorities don’t they. They have more compassion than men. They minister to us. Their sheer existence facilitates men’s lives.
Jesus said to the disciples, whose feathers got a bit ruffled, to put up with, tolerate, or suffer the little children when they wanted to draw in close to The Lord.
And Paul the great apostle says that he won’t suffer a women to preach.
The Lord and Paul are both right.
According to this young man ,"Catholic Church mistreated women". Repeatedly he brings up the issue of Nuns in the catholic church. Illiteracy about Catholicism is rampant in the US and instead of depending on half baked information they should do right research. What people should understand is that Catholic men or women don't become priests, monks and nuns by coercion. Nuns like the monks take up three vows: Poverty, obedience, and Chastity. The orthodox Church and even Anglican Church have nuns. By these vows they are consecrated to God. Among all the great saints Mary the mother of Christ is considered the greatest of all saints. That's a woman who is considered greater than any man. The Catholic Church's history is strewn with nuns who were outstanding saints. In our own times we witnessed Mother Teresa's (she was a nun, and thank God she was a nun) example of living like Christ. Nuns run old age homes, orphanages, schools and hospitals as a part of their vow of Obedience to Christ's teaching of practicing charity. They must also teach the true faith and the Holy Tradition of the Catholic Church. The contributions of nuns to societies around the world are immeasurable. Habits are a matter of self-discipline and part of the vow of chastity and poverty. To say that nuns or monks are forced to shave their heads is untrue because that is part of their consecration in the religious order. Such practices along with several times in the day for prayer and fasting were introduced to allow them to dedicate and focus their efforts on spiritual aspects. These aspects of monasticism have their roots in the first monks (Antony of the Desert and Paul of Thebes) who lived in the Egyptian desert in the third century AD. These monks led austere pious lives in hardships to dedicate their lives to prayer, teaching, service, and contemplation of the scriptures. It is from these experiences and legacies that the religious orders of monks and Nuns have originated. The Catholic Church holds Nuns in very high esteem.
That striped hat guy just got schooled. He was trying to exhault himself and got humbled. Read God’s Word in context...all of It.
Well I guess one good thing that these guys think is that they both are trying to elevate women, so he reads the Bible one way and chooses to interpret it to say women are bad and Cliff says it actually elevates women so the argument is finished they both are working hard to elevate women.
we're not all "sinners". The bible doesnt say that. However, we all have "sinned". The bible does say that. saying we're all "sinners" is present tense. There are people that walk the earth that no longer sin and live for God. For example, if I dont sin today or for the next 2 years and die, and I come down with a disease at the end of those two years, could you call me a sinner and be correct? no, that would be disingenuous.
Every time your tempted to sin, you dont have to. Saints do not sin.
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Reading the comments which are biased towards Cliffe. You should tell the truth the bible is sexist and Cliffe interprets the way he wants. Of course, insult him if he makes a good point.
For an antithiest, you sure like to watch Christian apologist videos.
wonder woman
So Stuart admits laws were made against women.
Cliffe makes an interesting point at about 13:50, he talks about reading the bible in context, although I agree with him to a point, I don't think we can ever truly know what is in an authors mind when he writes something down, even more so if it was written thousands of years ago. Authors don't leave notes at the end of a book to explain in detail what they actually meant, it's down to the reader to comprehend it as they see it, and obviously, we all have our own minds and our thoughts can differ wildly. This would surely explain why Christianity has branched off in so many directions with hundreds of different denominations. Protestants and Catholics in Europe tortured and killed eachother, even in my lifetime thousands died in Northern Ireland for simply belonging to the 'wrong' faith.
Tom, when Jesus says, "I am the door" John 10:9 We can surely know He is not made of wood, and swings on hinges. The Bible is written as Literature. And must be interpreted according to context. Literal, Figurative, Historical etc.
@@Brucev7 Absolutely Bruce, I don't think anyone would think Jesus was a door, we know the author is using specific language..I'm not a biblical scholar, it would be good to know if the *original* author actually used the word *door* for that particular passage. I know that when William Tyndale translated the New Testament from it's original Koine Greek, there were various phrases that had no English exact translation, so he had to come up with his own English phrase that would hopefully closely match the Greek phrase. Did Jesus actually say "I am the door"?, who knows.
@@bonnie43uk Enjoy Tom. The Reason For The Season. 'President Trump: The cross is ‘a powerful reminder of the meaning of Christmas’ th-cam.com/video/u9R0ywpPqak/w-d-xo.html
I think it's really sad that these kids have to pull up the Bible on their cell phone! I could quote many parts of the Bible but I also read it in context by the time I was 14. Also not everything in the Bible stands true today especially the Old testament.
So if the truck driver didn't visit brothels would he have discovered his wife was unfaithful? Or is that even the point? Is this example more to do with human moral hypocrisy? I present this question to underline what he may have been thinking. Good anecdote though.
Dave Hunter, yes the truck driver was being hypocritical by wanting to kill his wife because she was being a prostitute, while he himself was coming to see a prostitute while being married, it just so happens that the prostitute turned out to be his wife
Cliffs please I would like you if your quiet in your time of prayer ask God whether wearing wedding ring is a sin because Cliffs when you wear wedding ring that is not in line with the biblical marriage not wedding rings pray about it and see what God says God bless you
Mark Michael Mwangi how is wearing a wedding ring a sin? That's a new one for me please provide scripture you are getting this from?
Mark Michael Mwangi As a christian I would say it is simple part of our culture to exchange them. I am going to step out and say something that might not be what you are asking about.
Some groups of christians can fall into legalism at times. Legalist can make their point seem so correct that you have to do what ever they say to be a "true" christian. Paul had to deal with legalism. There were those that insisted that gentile christians should be circumcised. Paul several times spoke that it is about faith in Christ not some relgious ritual.
I dont know of any clear scripture that speaks out about wedding rings. You may find some scripture that you can draw out a conclusion that leads to you to think wedding rings are sinful but I dont know of any where it is a direct willful act against God.
I dont know if that helps or not.
I will give you scriptures thats state wedding ring is a sin
Read these scriptures they speak against wedding rings and jewelleries and body ornaments and earrings Genesis 35:2-4, Hosea 2:13, ezekiel 23:40, 2 kings 9:30, Isaiah 3:16-24, 1 timothy 2:9, 1peter 3:1-3
Hi Mark, i just checked out those first 2 passages in Genesis and Hosea, I can't see where it explicitly mentions wedding rings per se. Surely a wedding ring is a symbol of your marriage, i don't think it holds any deeper significance as such. I could be wrong of course, but you are the first person I've ever heard bring up this issue.
So much deception, where to begin...
Yes morality is relative. This argument of morals needing to be objective is a red haring. Is Deuteronomy 22:28,29 objectively moral?
I get the impression that Cliffe believes all atheists are moral relativists, if not, he certainly appears to think that atheists firmly believe that If I believe stealing is wrong, then it's perfectly acceptable for another person to think stealing is ok. He states in most of his video's that "atheists can't live it out" because he seems to think we're all moral relativists. Speaking for myself, I don't know of any atheist who deems immoral behavior ok. We all have to live by the rules that govern us.
Hi Kyle, good to get your perspective, as I see it, we homo sapiens are a social species, we worked out long ago what was good for our species and what was bad. You mentioned sacrificing a child, yes indeed, there were various ancient cultures that carried out that barbaric act, .. the reason they did it, it seems to me it was done as a gift to the various God's they worshipped, to them, a natural disaster such as an earthquake, or failing crops was due to an angry God, so a sacrifice had to be made to appease the God.
With regard to killing Jews in Germany during WWII, this was not official policy that the citizens were fully aware of, it was secret Nazi policy, many honest Germans would have been horrified if they realized mass extermination was occurring.
You are wrong to state as an atheist I cannot say this is right or wrong. I'm sure there are many moral issues we would agree on, but I'm also sure there are issues we would disagree on, me not believing in a God does not invalidate my right to express an opinion.
You mention 'moral absolutes' Kyle, what are these moral absolutes?, how many can you name?
bonnie43uk Words describe what you are not the other way around. Just because you say you are not a moral relatavist doesnt mean you arent one. Weve gone over this 1000 times. If you have no outside source that means you decide which means everyone decides. You cant say someone is wrong when you say people get to reason there way to morality. Everyone doesnt "reason" the same way. Why does this bother you so much I find it odd.
@j2, why should I have an outside source for morality?, it comes from within as far as I can ascertain. You may have noticed that we are quite clever creatures, look around you at what mankind is capable of as a species, with a lot of human ingenuity we've even managed to fly, ( within 60 years we went from the Wright brothers flying a few hundred feet to Neil Armstrong stepping on the moon). We've also explored our solar system and beyond, at no point did we need Gods help. I'm sure as a species it was well within our capability to work out that hurting each-other is bad, and helping one another is Good. There is your basis for morality, it's quite simple at it's core. Children can even work it out.
I asked you previously what are these moral absolutes that you talk about?, how many can you name just out of interest?
bonnie43uk You dont believe that cause when i point out that someone elses morality goes against yours you dont say its ok so stop saying it comes from within or accept it an everyone elses within morality.
I've told you over and over j2, morality is not black and white, you and I might well agree on lots of things regarding moral behavior, but I am sure there are lots of things we will also disagree on. The reason we may disagree is down to lots of different factors, culture, age, religion, tradition, there are lots of reasons we may disagree, I believe it's absolutely moral for gay people to get married, you may disagree. Who is right and who is wrong?, well, it's something we can discuss and talk about *why* we believe it ok or not. In the 1970's I would be agreeing with you, as a young man I believed it to be immoral for various reasons. Now my view is totally different, my moral outlook on homosexuality has changed, and I can give you various reasons for that. Society here in the UK deemed it immoral, and also my church deemed it immoral, I went along with those views. I cannot justify those views now. Morals change. .. that change came from within, it wasn't external. I will say again, morality is not something binary 1 - 0 good /bad, it's far more complex than that.
The first part of the video and the whole church instruction and women thing, I have to say I dont agree with Cliffe at all there. Yes, God was speaking to the people at the time through Paul anf his letters but at the same time in his infinite wisdom and knowledge God is through the same letter to Timothy or the Corinthians... speaking and laying down rules for all men and women of all future generations in every place in the world. What is said in Timothy or Corinthians or Acts dosent apply just to that time, culture or context, it applies to everybody at every time.
God through Paul gives us a clear reason why women are not allowed to speak in the church or have authority over a man. Because man is the image and glory of God, woman is not. She is the glory of man. Just as Christ is the head of every man so is man the head of woman. Its a matter of order and authority. Very simple.
If you are going to force this context thing then do that with the words of Jesus as well. He never sais he came for the gentiles, he never left Israel, he was teaching ans preaching to hebrews not to you or me, so if we are to take this context thing seriously then Jesus is strictly speaking to the hebrews at the time and he is teaching them how to live ans love each other, it dosent apply to us today. He even said " I am come to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" I dont fall under that umbrella, do you? This whole context thing is totally ridicilous when we are talking about an infinite God and his infinite knowledge if the future and his wisdom.
King of Kings and Lord of Lords I do pray you take context seriously
avilesw What do you mean by context? Are we just to look at the context of Corinthians,Acts, Ephisians but not the 4 Gospels? Do the Gospels apply to everyone of all time? Yes. Why dont you take that position with the epistles? Inconsistent to say the least. People dont want to apply the epistles like they do the Gosples because God forbid it might offend women or something. So what? Truth is truth whether it offends you or not. The only reason people dont want to apply the epistles of Paul in the same way as the Gospels is because of the ridicilously politically correct society we live in.
Many atheists are most certainly noble people. But nobility doesn't get us into heaven. There are plenty of atheists who lead better lives than the preconverted Christian, But because of the true contrite repentance of the believer they go to heaven and the noble atheist doesn't. Why? There are 2 main requirements to go to heaven. 1.Believe that Jesus Christ is God with us and 2. Keep the commandments. The noble atheist has elected to not believe in the divinity of Christ and they are most certainly breaking the first and most important commandment. Which is. Love the Lord thy God with all thy whole heart mind soul and strength. Nobility isn't enough. A decent noble atheist regrettably goes to hell.
If God truly existed, then there would only exist logical arguments that would defend that existence. However, the precise opposite is the case. Any attempt to logically defend the existence of a god suffers from a logical fallacy.
@Casparus Kruger
Yes, very true, as far as any form of what we could designate as 'God' goes and with the Christian God concept, it gets even worse than that, because according to said Christian doctrine, we're supposed to believe this God loves us so much, cares about us so much and wants us to believe in him, he's supposed to have all this infinite power and so should easily be able to remedy our doubts about his existence but for some reason he is not willing to show himself to non believers to get them to change their minds, which is very strange, because, according to the Bible, he was happy to show himself to Saul and and loads of others back then but....uh....for reasons apparently beyond our mortal understanding, he is not willing to give us non-believers the same level of proof, if we're wrong then this God who "loves us so much" will just chuck us in the fire, what a great being this God is, eh? Lol.
Casparus Kruger you’re a wanker
Interupt and shout down and force you to a stance and argue against that stance strawman master. name drop some atheist to make their points.
Name calling? A change of tone in order to wake you up is what he needed and so do you. Toughen up a bit.
Despite whatever your parents ever told you, God not only does not logically exist -- God cannot possibly exist logically.
God is claimed to be an immaterial; conscious entity that created all of material existence.
Consciousness requires existence for that consciousness to exist at all, in that the idea of any entity capable of being conscious requires some existence to be conscious OF. If there is is nothing to perceive, there is nothing to form
concepts--the very things required to possess any form of consciousness
Kinda hard thing to do for a claimed conscious entity --that is claimed to have created all of existence, isn't it?
SIMPLY PUT
The very things that god is claimed to have created are the very things that were required to exist BEFORE God could ever logically exist Himself.
your logic only makes sense within your own logic
@@benwtf5539 Can you steelman my argument?
None of the gospels were written by eye witnesses.
170221dn - Matthew, the tax collector, disciple of Jesus? John, the disciple of Jesus, the loved disciple, who also wrote 1-3 John and Revelation?
Ignorance my man SMH 🤦🏾♂️
Justin Henry
"Matthew, the tax collector, disciple of Jesus? John, the disciple of Jesus, the loved disciple, who also wrote 1-3 John and Revelation?
Ignorance my man SMH 🤦🏾♂️ "
WOW. You actually believe that?
170221dn - Yeah, because they wrote it. Those are facts bro. You gotta search and study before you just flat out make the statement “None of the gospels were written by eyewitnesses.”
Justin Henry
"Yeah, because they wrote it. "
Their names are against them. I am afraid they didn't write them, even Christian scholars agree that.
"Those are facts bro."
Great, if it is a fact prove it then.
"You gotta search and study before you just flat out make the statement “None of the gospels were written by eyewitnesses.”"
Something you clearly did not do.
170221dn - 😂😂😂 Chill bro, what’s your problem?
The guy points out glaring misogyny that was clear instructions to women that stretched out for many versus and Cliffe retorts with a short confusing, parable from Jesus?!? Fail