UGREEN NEXODE CD226 100W USB Power Adapter Review and Test
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- UGREEN NEXODE CD226 100W USB Power Adapter Review and Test
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In this video I am looking at two UGREEN Nexode 100W USB A and USB C Power Adapters. The first power adapter is a CD226 PN 40737 and is a wall charger. The next is also a CD226 but has a PN 70869 and is a desktop charger. These are very different adapters for having the same model.
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You just convinced me to buy the Baseus 120W charger brick. This UGREEN 100W was my first and second choice, but I was hesitant and searched for some crucial details for fully testing. You just earn another subscriber for this. thanks!
Yeah, Baseus seems to be trying for some reason. The 120w charger did have some issues (noise, peaks of current/power consumption during the idle state), the 100W charger fixed these issues (newer). Specifically, both the multiport options.
Finally the one we've all been waiting for! This Ugreen was at the top of my list after so many glowing reviews from other tech channels. But I've now been convinced by your Baseus 100W review that that's the way to go.
I have a background in power electronics and your concise explanations for power quality parameters are great for everyday consumers. I've binge watched all your charger videos back to the HyphenX. I and everyone else here appreciate your effort and expertise in this matter. Keep up the great work!
You always have to take LTT with a grain of salt, he's the biggest tech TH-cam channel, so he makes the most money, and he does that through sponsorship slots, as well as monitization, and his merch sales of course. But Linus has been called out by the community many of times because of saying something utterly stupid or utterly wrong entirely. The TH-camrs you should be trusting right now to tell you the real story, is AllThingsInOnePlace, he's a trained PRO in the industry, knows his stuff, shows the data to back it up, and no sponsorship BS. 👍
Thanks! Yeah, I was not impressed by this one (which is probably a bit obvious in the video, ha). The price is high while lacking official safety listings and not including features that others include at this price bracket. Baseus is an interesting company, I am not sure why they are pushing the trend but I am glad they are. It isn't all roses though. The 100W single port adapter has a problem... coming soon.
Ha, yeah. I mean I wouldn't mind a sponsored video once in a while, this is an expensive hobby. I like LTT, I think they mostly do a great job but anyone doing this kind of thing eventually ends up in the T-Shirt business. I do a data heavy approach and present actual functions of samples as the primary presentation and I don't want to change that. I do want to build some kind of business out of this eventually, which unfortunately on TH-cam would mean taking some sponsors, offering the usual youtuber things...
@@AllThingsOnePlace wish i saw this video before I got it. Bought it for 50 euros after seeing other videos on yt reviewing as good. Weirdly yours didn't even show up as suggested back then.
Dude, you're almost at a 1000 :) this channel is awesome, thank you for all the work you do :)
Yes, almost out of nano channel and up to micro channel! Into the parts per million.
Wish I had found these videos earlier. Fantastic job.
Thank you! I get that a lot.
Glad i came across your video - almost bought the Ugreen because there are so many positive reviews out there based purely on personal opinions with no data to back up their conclusions
Yeah, I’m trying to provide everyone all the data! A long way to go but at least that means I can make lots of videos. Thanks for watching!
Great review! And really looking forward to watching you reviewing/testing the UGREEN 200W charger!
Yeah, I have it on the schedule for Mid-August as of now.
Thanks for granting my request to review these increasingly popular chargers. Oddly unlike your region, they appear to pass multiple safety tests in my specific region and are wildly cheaper than many 100W chargers. Maybe since they originated from China, they are more dedicated to the Asian market?
Yes, that is a great point. I've torn down one UGREEN adapter that has the US safety regulation and that was a well made device. I doubt UGREEN lowers the quality on other devices but they probably didn't get the mark since it is expensive and also takes significant time and a minor change may require an entire product redesign, or they are using an unlisted component which is a huge pain for manufacturers. Although for the price they are charging in the North American market they really should be able to afford the requisite marks or to pay for adding a component to get listed.
Great video. Very detailed. I like the honest review. Was looking at getting the 100W wall version but after seeing your video decided not too. Thanks.
Thanks! Yeah, sometimes I am too mean I think but honest opinions carry value I hope.
Very well done, lots on insights. Very useful. Thank you
Thanks for watching. I know UGREEN can do better, the 20W adapter is actually okay, of course I didn't do long term testing on it because I tore it to shreds, haha.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I’m baffled by the amount of effort you put into these videos. I truly hope that your channel gains the credit it deserves for all that.
On that 20W charger note, I’m sure UGREEN can do better, although personally I don’t see the value of the 20W as I believe that more and more people are having at least 2 devices or more so it makes sense to bet on larger chargers. Talking about larger chargers, I’ve noticed that UGREEN is the first brand putting out a 200W charger. I’d be really happy to see you tear it down but given the investment you’ve already done on the other chargers, the amount of potentially good candidates in the 100W category and that it’s still a “novelty” I don’t expect anyone to tear it down for the sake of information just yet. Keep up the good work. All the best.
This power adaptor was a bit disappointing. Thanks for making. You should have a PO Box for people to mail you power adaptors to review. That’s how audio science review is able to test so many USB audio devices.
Yeah. I was just looking up how much PO Boxes cost! It is on my list of things to do for sure as part of building the channel up.
Awesome channel!
I have a 100W charger I got on an Amazon special for $30 about 2 months ago. It's ~$40 now so the value proposition is no longer there as you can get better stuff for not much more. Brand is Highsay. Passes a charge meter test for everything it said it was rated for which was surprising. I'm sure it's not great and the fact you can't find it anywhere except Amazon is concerning. Sparks like crazy as well. But it charges stuff pretty well.
Incredible work! Keep it up!
I have the Highsay one. It’ll be on the testing block soon enough.
Many thanks for your effort mate! I was thinking to buy this product but now I know that I shouldn't.
I try to be nice. Let the data do most of the talking. I expect more at the $80 - $100 price range for a charger though.
Was waiting for this review, which solidified my choice of either the Baseus or Hyphen-X per your other benchmarked and detailed analysis.
Really appreciate that you don't just skim through and read spec sheets like others do and give quantifiable data to inform your viewers.
Not sure how difficult it would be to include a note about, however I've seen a lot of review comments on various 100W chargers complaining about reset loops when charging multiple devices. I'd imagine it comes down to the negotiation of voltage + amperage (total power delivered), but it's hard to tell if one handles this better than another. At minimum knowing that several split the top two banks separate from the bottom two help out since you at least reduce the potential impact to two devices fighting each other as they change throughout charge cycles.
I try and trip them up off camera for the various power ports with different usb modes. Generally, I haven’t had any issues. The Hyphen-X has preference on which port you use sometimes when charging lower power devices. It seems to think a low power device (1 watt or so) is a port that can be turned off sometimes. I used it for a while charging daily and once I figured out which port was which I never had any issues. the device immediately showed that charging wasn’t happening when it failed. I haven’t seen any go into a loop yet but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Brother, very good content! I have a suggestion. Please try and open the chargers/adapters and analyze them. That way your channel will be the go-to for charger reviews.
I do occasionally do that, there's probably a tear down playlist. It is mostly a time constraint to give the teardowns the work they need. Thanks for the suggestion!
I got this charger for 15USD in our country which is marked as non-gan. They are now selling a "GaN" version (CCD326) that looks a lot more like your wall power adapter here, costing an average of 46USD. I'm now curious what are the component differences between these devices.
If only I had seen your review earlier I would have really gone with Baseus. Thank you for your reviews!
I looked at the newer version in another video too. It is a little better.
Thank you for your videos, recently discovered your channel and find your reviews interesting. I have one question that I've not been able to find an answer to via Google (or have not been able to put the right search terms together to find).
In your videos you show the AC sine wave and I believe total harmonic distortion measured on the AC side of the adapter. Generally I understand that adapter's graph closely following the AC supply sine wave is "good", and deviation from it in the form of peaks (or probably any other variation) is "bad." Or more generally higher THD is "bad."
What I'm wondering is what kind of practical impact higher THD or variance in the sine waves may have on charging. Is this mostly a matter of impacting efficiency and lost power, or are there other possibly impacts that one might expect to see when this occurs in a power adapter's measurements.
Hope that is clear.
It is very clear. It is entirely related to efficiency. I am looking at that specifically because a charger is one thing: a power supply. Efficiency is probably the most important part of what it does. So, looking at it in a complex way is important when dealing with AC power. I know this is the low end of the power scale but it is still interesting.
The only impact high AC-THD can have is through conducted emissions or early tripping of breakers if you have a lot of these devices, which for the average consumer probably isn't happening anytime soon. In general, devices are spread out enough throughout a house that a breaker wouldn't trip and you probably won't notice any ill effects device side. I actually can measure the effect, with moderately expensive lab equipment of a power supply plugged in somewhere else that is particularly noisy AC side.
The output or DC side, I check for voltage stability and regulation, I need to get some ripple figures added in. Ripple can have more of an effect on charging. There is another regulator in the device being charged or power consuming device (hopefully) so ripple isn't so crucial as long as its not REALLY high (like volts instead of millivolts).
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for the explanation!!
Thanks for great review. Which similar adapter 100-120W do you then recommend to be used, I need at least one C port 12A and 3A output.
The current best performers are the Baseus 100W wall and desktop adapters. The 120W version has a few issues so unless you need the extra watts I wouldn't get that one. There are quite a few new adapters in the queue though so maybe they will get ousted from the top spot.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks I ordered as you suggested.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hey man, what are the issues for the baseus 120w. My laptop supports 135w Type C pd charging.
thanks for this
You are welcome! So many more videos to make. Haha.
Your Videos are Awesome but I wish you also include real-world reviews that help a purchase decision for the average consumer. For eg. The GAN X Charger (Non-Desktop) Does not support Samsung's Super Fast Charging 2.0. It does not charge S22 Ultra more than 25 watts. But The Ugreen Desktop Charger supports Samsung Super fast Charging 2.0 and charges the S22 Ultra at almost 45 watts. Secondly, the effect is different when you add an iPad pro to the equation. Even when the first port is 65w and the second 45w super-fast charging turns off and the phone charges at 15 watts. Such information really helps for a purchase decision.
I try to cover a little of the port distribution (I usually pull the manufacturers data and check it with a bunch of decoys), it is the most confusing part of these multi-port power adapters. Some are certainly better than others at distribution of power. Some things like the Samsung 45W charging and other phones with faster charging rates are difficult to categorize. I need to get a bunch of those little protocol displays maybe. Always room for improvements in the videos.
Power saving or performance is just a small item in the overall rating of the charger, if only relying on power saving to score good or bad charging is subjective and inaccurate. You should refer to the assessment of the charger similar to the "Chongdiantou" website or ChargerLAB on youtube, they going from the outside to the inside, from the charging standard, charging capacity to performance, temperature, voltage quality...
Wondering if you'll ever do videos on portable power banks or a video comparing the best ones in terms of charging efficiency and true capacity.
I have been thinking about it for a while now. The trouble with power banks is variability unit to unit and also how they change over time. So, one power bank may be great on the first few charges but what we really want to know is after 500 or 1000 charges does it still work! That takes a ton of time and requires a bit more automation than what I have now. I want to offer that high level of technology review backed up with numbers but it will likely take time. I point to a running vlog (nothing to do with this channel) who does an initial look at a shoe then does the official review after 50 miles, so maybe could follow that approach. Set up the adapters check for power outputs, then do a check after so many cycles later on. Sample b capacity after 100 charges, etc. Also, would have to do at least three of each model. Power adapters on the other hand are much more consistent. I've done checks of revisions and even different manufacturers of same models and they are within reasonable tolerances so a sample size of 1 is mostly enough.
@@AllThingsOnePlace that makes a lot of sense. 🤔 I learned alot about power adapters and cables from your videos. I look forward to seeing more. 👍
Great! There’s this 6ports 200W ugreen adapter out in the market already. Can you test it out. Thanks.
It is on the schedule for release August 19th.
Any chance you could test one of the 66 W GaN chargers? The model name seems to be P265B for most of the various brands, including the Wiredix I bought...
Minix seems to be the only brand I recognise on Amazon, but there seems to be about a dozen different models rated at 65 or 66 W.
Largely curious is they can deliver the rated power over time.
Great to see someone testing these devices, since not all of them are what the manufacturers claim.
I have tested a bunch of 60-65W adapters, I think 66W is just a marketing ploy. 65/66 is in the margin of error of the control devices. bt yeah, I will get some 66W devices in too. Long term is tough because it is largely going to come down to how those electrolytic capacitors get treated. If they get real hot they will not last as long (year versus years). There are a lot of small / lesser known brands on Amazon (Anker, Belkin, Apple, Samsung, etc. are all there too). Some seem okay, some are not not good. I think it would be near on impossible to rate them all and I think the MINIX is going to be the first rebadge on the channel.
@@AllThingsOnePlace the P256B seems to be a very popular models and it's the smallest 65/66W one I've come across. Mostly got it because it came with multiple plugs, so it should be convenient for travelling. A quick search brought up about a dozen similar devices for around $30-40. I live in Asia, but oddly enough, Amazon has weirder brands than what you can buy locally where I live. I'm not asking for all of course, but as most seem to share the same model name, I presume they're all made by the same factory, as often is the case for these things.
Ugh, I just bought the GaN X 100w, and the new 140w charger. Do you suggest returning to Amazon and picking up the Baseus instead? I'm tring to limit my cable bricks under my desk. I have an iPad pro 11", MBP 14", Work computer (65w) and a magsafe dock for my phone. Any suggestions on what combinations of adapters I should get to get rid of some of the mess down there?
The 100W wall charger, I can't recommend. The desktop version (bar US and Canada) safety listings is okay, there are better options out there. I haven't checked out the UGREEN 140W charger yet, it is on the way though. On the safety side, I have seen claims from a few companies that they 'pass the tests' but don't get the actual listing. The UGREEN 200W might be of most interest to you if you want to stick with UGREEN though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I don’t care who I go with. I only picked them based on other reviewers but you go way more in-depth and don’t seem to have a paid sponsorship which is very nice.
I'm planning on getting the 2-port variant (model number CD254). At the moment, it's on sale for less than 20 USD where I live. It seems to have TÜV certification based on pictures of product reviews I've seen. What do you think?
It has the listing for Japan only typically. This isn't bad. At least it went through some kind of certification process.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks! I read from one of the comments in this video that apparently the 2-port version has PFC. Are you aware of this?
So how about a Ugreen Nexode 200w? You said at the end you will do a review, been almost 2 months. Are you finally gonna do it? :)
I know right. Can you say avoidance? I'll get it on the August schedule.
im using the wall power brick one for my macbook air m1, what dangers could it bring using it as my travel charger
It should be fine. It isn't the most efficient thing but it will work... The specific lack of full safety listings means I'd probably lean towards something else though. UGREEN does tend to be built well but they need to pony up as a larger player and get the proper safety listings completed.
Would the UK version of the 100W Wall charger be just as bad? It has a different shape so idk if it would have the exact same components and it has a UKCA logo so idk if that counts as a saftey listing? My other options are a UGREEN UK 65W 2 Port GaN Charger, the Spigen ArcStation 45W with switchable plugs, and the Anker UK 735 GaNPrime 65W. Which would be the best out of the 4?
The desktop version isn't bad in terms of power usage but the wall one isn't great because it lacks the power factor correction. The stats will actually be worse on 230V-50Hz power! The 65W adapters will all be quite poor performers. The 120W Anker GanPrime and 150W Anker GanPrime review will be out this Friday and those (although may be a bit oversized may be more tuned for general charging).
UKCA is kind of like a safety listing, same as CE used to be for UK, but it is a self declaration so it isn't as useful. These are all fairly new and I have seen a few different rule sets coming out for products in this category. I'm far from the UKCA expert though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Ok thanks
Ugreen messaged me assuring me all adapters shipped are UL safety certified in US/Canada. Don't know why Dr. Juice does not have a certified unit. Awesome channel 👏 I contacted Ugreen to watch & compare their quality products 👌 to the top tier industry standards 👍🏽
I don't know, you search UL's site you get zero results. No label on the product, not on the UL page, so I don't believe them. There are also recent Amazon reviews showing photos of the products with no labels also. I think it's worse making the claim and not having it.
I have a question the ugreen 100w wall charger is it even safe to use on my Anker Prime 27,650 to charge or run my Rog Ally z1e tops out at 43w?
The device decides how much power to use, so this is perfectly fine to use with a device that requires less power.
The CD226 (UK version) has a Safety Mark number in the UK: 211058-11
Thanks for posting!
I am using this charger to fast charge my DJI drone batteries. It can damage the batteries? cause they are kinda expensive. Shall i look for another 100w charger? If so what 100W charger do you recommend? Thanks!
It's fine for the battery as long as the device (drone) has an appropriate charging circuit. The device decides how much power to pull from the adapter.
Any idea if the desktop model is the same as the Australian release? 'ACBUGN15613'
I think the adapter is really the same. They ship it with the proper cord end for the desktop version. The other probably has a different plastic molding. I fully expect the power supply to be the same.
Although it is a 100W charger, if my windows laptop adapter is 135W... this cannot be used right? Let's say I have the adapter/converter cable for USB type C to my windows laptop adapter?
Yeah, if your device can actively use 135 watts it will try to and these power adapters will not work. Even the larger power USB Power adapters won't work. The EPR mode increases voltage to 28 volts to get to 140 watts on one port which is likely not compatible with the laptop either. If you can power limit the input to 100 watts somehow then they will work. I know this is usually a control manufacturers don't provide.
isn't the power distribution in this ones better than in baseus? also this has 3 usb-c ports while baseus has only 2. I am a data driven, but I lack the knowledge to know how much of a big deal are the differences you are showing here and if they actually are more important than for example the power distribution between the ports. I wonder if you have some video where you explain how important is every category you are checking, like the phase of the wave for example..
No power adapter is perfect. I am trying to make less opinions and more only present the facts now so the decision can be made elsewhere. I do agree that I would like to see three USB C ports rather than two USB A ports as basically everything is supplied with a USB C cable now. In this case the actual efficiency is lower on the UGREEN so therefore it will have higher operating costs. Being the UGREEN is more expensive too... Yeah, the cost of electricity is subsidized so maybe $3 more per year in this case if you charge a phone and use a laptop everyday (essentially half device load). These companies are certainly all in the battle for the top and UGREEN is trying to make a quality product. The concern for me is the lack of US/Canada safety listings or any listing at all.
Would you recommend this even though it’s not safety listed for the US? or even the 65 watt version with the 3 ports?
I'm not using them, I haven't checked the 65W yet, but that's mostly around the lower performance. I would say the user might be taking a bit more risk with a power adapter that doesn't have the listing but it is always user choice. The UGREEN company has been around awhile so they should know what they are doing. I plan to do a teardown of at least one of these adapters to explore.
@@AllThingsOnePlace please do, I have the 65 wattt encode and it’s my go to… but if the safety listing is crucial I may stop using it.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hey I actually contacted the company and they provided information claiming they are safety listed on TUV rheinland - and they are approved for North American markets. If you would like to see this information I can email you it.
I had bought Ugreen 100W charger to my new M2 MacBook Air but display icon shown the charger is not charging the battery but only power the unit only….. why ? Battery protection by MacBook ?
Hmm. It should be able to charge. Does the cable have the Emark chip? Even if it doesn't it should still work but just won't charge at the full available power. The cable is the first thing I would try swapping out. Then I would try different ports on the charger (sometimes different ports have different functions). Other than that it should be perfectly capable of working with any PD 3.0 compatible charging device. Issue is SHOULD, who knows what isn't compatible. Also, it may work for me and not for you, this is the issue with having to pass data back and forth between the adapter and the computer. The computer can decide it doesn't charge from some power bricks. Kind of like the old days with Dell and HP laptop adapters putting chips in the chargers to make sure you couldn't use anyone else's chargers.
So does the total power output decrease if a usb cable is plugged in to the port even if it’s not plugged into a device on the other end? e.g. if three cables are plugged in but only one is in use is it still going to cap the output at 45w?
If they are USB C to C cables then no. If they are other types, like lightning or a wireless charger pad, then yes, the power decreases to each port.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for your response. Are you aware of any chargers that wont auto de-rate when a lightning cable is plugged in?
@@GarageGeek I don't think the charger has a choice because the cable negotiates the USB PD condition. The USB A cables don't force this condition though, so mixing those in works but you will be limited to slower charges. The magsafe connections are USB C only.
@@AllThingsOnePlace This is very helpful information for the charging station project I am working on. I really appreciate your time and the information you share.
Hi, I'm looking for a 100w/65w charger to buy, which brand and model would you recommend for me to buy. the highest charging device I have is my Phone (45W) the rest is just my external batteries and my action camera. thank you for your time.
My go to is the Baseus 100w desktop or 100w wall charger. There are also many other reasonable options in this price range. I always warn about longevity but in reality with the compact nature of these modern adapters, they just aren't going to last that long. Hot capacitors = short life span.
Came across this because I was researching for a product with 3 USB-C ports that was reasonably priced for 45w,30w and the 3rd didn't really matter. Now I'm hoping for any advise or direction for a solution. I'm looking to trickle charge when in use the 30w for steam deck and 45w for a full recharge and the other USB port would be for keeping a chrome book topped off(wife's). This is going to be tucked away between us in our recliners in the arm rest bin (it came with older USB-A ports that are of no use)
Looked over some comments, will have to find your videos on Hyphen-X and Baseus 120W
Going with Baseus 100W GaN 3 Desktop Power Adapter
Nice, yeah, it still will want a little room to breath, insulating the charger is a sure fire way to make it last less long but at reasonably low wattages I would expect a good lifespan.
I've heard that Mcdodo's products are good for its price. Do you know anything about that brand?
I haven’t checked any of them out yet but I certainly can.
I just bought this ugreen nexode 100w wall charger. Mine has the safety listed printed on the device and box. Still might return it though.
Yeah, ugreen has started to add the safety mark lately. Although still hit or miss across their product stack and usually a listing that doesn’t directly apply to the country it’s being sold in. Anyway, I still have my little 20w adapter which performs well, other than that I don’t really use much from ugreen myself.
Hi! That saved my money! Thanks!
Would love to see if you could have 3 types of stickers, Grade A, B, C.
haha, there is a second rating system which is more coarse that I could get stickers for. It's like the EU A-F rating system but includes power factor and idle. Power adapters tend to be all be C because of the idle power though. Someone suggested a sticker where I can write in the score.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yes! A sticker where you can write on would be great. Haha
Waiting eagerly for the 6 port ugreen tomorrow!
And I bought 2 of these (wall version) and of course it's way to late to return and I can't affored to buy another expensive charger when the ugreen one works, I guesa I just have to hope It won't catch on fire. Is this thing so unsafe that I should throw it out and replace it (I'm in the EU specifically germany so it's not like a us safty listing would apply but no idea if the EU version has some form of safty listing)
Yeah, for the 100W class there are much better adapters out there. I think UGREEN does the work but they just don't bother with the labels. I think the big thing that gets missed with the safety listing is it makes sure manufacturers don't do the tests on product 'a' then change the product and still sell it as product 'a' but it is not. The safety listing has audits in place. TÜV SÜD is based out of Munich Germany and is just one of many so there are certainly safety listings in Europe. The primary things that you see though are the CE and now the UKCA mark which are self declarations. These are of limited value and usually too easy to fake. You can look up a company's safety certificate usually to see if a device has a listing. I like the UL and ETL approach since they put the number on the label, easier to find. Of course with no label at all you don't know which company database to even search!
Off topic, but you should likely do a cross over video with people like eg packhacker or some of the other places that might use a travel charger on the go and know what to look for, etc. It would at least drive a lot more traffic to you...
Can you explain a little more?
@@AllThingsOnePlace Well if you look at packhacker and the reddit onebag community they look for a few different things than you test for, but a combination of the behind the scenes look that you do, coupled with the things they look for would likely be of great interest. Eg what is the bet travel charger you can get for the weight at the moment? etc
Will you be testing the slimq 100watt ?
That one is on my list. I think the 65w will be first though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you for another great review , getting the hyphenx for now . Looking forward to more of your videos ^_^
@@AllThingsOnePlace o I was curious would gallium nitride chargers be more durable/ resilient in the long term than their silicon based predecessors ? Couldn’t find any data on this , is it too soon in their product life cycles to be determined? Is it dependent on the manufacture and it’s level of build quality? Is it all upto the enclosure and associated parts rather than the power distribution medium?
Pls suggest me what to buy in desktop charger?
I have two current chargers I like, but it doesn't mean they'll be perfect for your needs. My go to charges are the Baseus 100W multiport desktop charger or the 165W Satechi charger (tends to be more apple compatible).
Hm having owned one ugreen charger and two baseus chargers i always felt the baseus ones less reliable. The EU versions of the Ugreen adapters do have the European safety ratings, however I might reconsider this one.
Yeah, I have seen more listings for Europe for UGREEN. I have torn down a few UGREEN adapters and generally didn't see that they were built all that bad, but I've also torn down some Baseus ones and they looked good too. I think it mostly comes down to heat and component placement, how quickly will the capacitors fail depending on which ones they picked and where they put them...
I just bought the ugreen wall version. I picked it cos it has 3x usb c and 1x uab a, unlike all the baseus ones avaiable here. Also on all ghe baseus wall adapters the led rly puts me off. I dont need or want an led. Yes i can cover it but... :)
I watched this video but dont understand why its supposed to be so bad? Its just as good and even better than the baseus on some scores?
Oh yea, the baseus even wouldve been cheaper than the ugreen, but as i said, i wanted 3x usb c and only 1x usb-a.
I guess the ugreen 100w wall is still a completely fine product to use and your perspective is just a different but completely understandable one.
I guess youre looking at it from "perfectionist" electronical stand point. And im just a consumer who wants convenience and doesnt care about 1w more or less efficiency.
what i hate just as much as u tho is all the completely unnecessary wasteful packaging. Just give me a good product and u can ship it in a reused burger box 😂
Edit: german market btw.
Was looking at the anker prime 100w eall charger btw but your video convinced me its not worth it, even tho obviously the small size factor is tempting.
Unfortunately with our plugs and chargers its rare to have the plug foldable, thats why the anker prime are a bit of a game changer in EU.
Awesome videos, even if i don't understand everything, helpful and technical without useless shit:D
Yeah, I am looking at that last percent of efficiency gain. If you want to high level compare them, just say everything is the same and buy anything at all. The good thing is newer devices have been coming in much more basic packaging, a lot of paper only. I think the main issue with UGREEN was the lack of safety protocols too, but they have actually been doing this on new products which is nice to see.
Anyway, thanks for watching! Yeah, it can be a bit over the top technically wise. I try to make the newer videos more accessible. Keep the detailed data for charts for offline viewing.
Why does power factor correction matter?
You know, I keep saying I'm going to make that video, then I never do. Basically, in switching power supplies it creates extra non-linear heat, which is loss that isn't easy to correct, if you make heat, you pay money.
I dont understand anything on this review lol. Why the wall one is considered so bad? Will there be any danger of damaging my devices? Or is it just innefficient leading to more wasted power off the wall to charge the same as other more efficient devices?
It's just inefficiency, ha, yeah, I'm actually surprised I don't get that more.
its probally to early to ask but uh. are we getting nexode pro review + baseus new chargers in q1 2024:p?
im intrested into their 160w lmao. need a reason to justify my purchases hehe. I dont really need them but they will come in handy when i want to charge my phone and laptop simunatously
I have a GaN6 charger here already, I expect it to be awful... haha, the nexode pro is on the way in as well. Still have the Anker 240W. Who knows what will come out of CES this year... so, yeah, already starting out with lots of big devices for the new year, and absolutely no time to make videos. Good thing I like making the videos... This channel needs to blow up to make this sustainable but steady as she goes... In 5 years it might pay a living wage.
@@AllThingsOnePlace suprised how you dont have 100k sub yet
@@amirulizzat2114 It's all about CTR and SEO. I need to change all the icons and titles to get a boost. It's what works and what everyone else does but it takes a lot of time.
Aohi 100w dual usb-c port please
Okay, added to the list. I do already have the 30W and 65W Aohi adapters.
Hey thanks for testing this. Been using this charger (not the desktop ver) for my laptop usb c charging but it turns out my laptop prefers barrel charger as USB c charging doesnt allow bypass.
Basically it uses power from battery while usb c charges the battery so its a constant charge and discharge which is unhealthy.
To mitgate this, i use USB C barrel adapter and it works fine. I can control mostly the requirement power and as long as it don't hit the limit it seems to be fine. (The adapter it came with is 240w lol its a gaming laptop)
Anyway, was wondering if you would know a way to make the laptop limit itself to 100w max CHARGING mode as to not trip it.
Its fine when i use it as AC mode ( not charging and just giving juice to the laptop itself)
But it seems to have issues charging when it is below 75% (it flickers from charting to discharging like a mad man). My theory is when the laptop is below 75%, it's default wattage requirement to charge is more than 100W causing it to trip like you rest at 108W? Charging from 75% to 100% have no issues. Maybe cause power requirement is low. AC mode on 75% or higher have no issues too..
Not sure if I'm making sense though. Lol sorry laptop is Asus Zephyrus G14 2022 model. Its a thin and efficient gaming laptop and would really like to maximize GaN charging
It makes sense and unfortunately I think you are stuck on that one. These laptops that use larger than USB C power requirements when powered on will have no choice but to pull from battery when needed. The USB PD 3.1 technology exists now so 240W can be send over that cable but it isn't in products yet.
The only thing I can think of is under-volting the CPU and GPU to reduce the power consumption if the BIOS allows this but then you also lose performance and probably system stability.
There are a few devices on the market that have both a barrel jack and USB C. I haven't checked any out yet.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hey i did a bit of testing and it seems even if i lock the cpu and gpu to a certain power consumption, the laptop seems to have its own power requirement depending on what % it is on. (normally lower than 60% seems it wants to draw a lot regardless causing it to trip even if cpu and gpu not needing that much power).
above 80% seems to have no issues, it seems 100W is sufficient, wattage indication shows 90+W when charging from 80% to 100%.
Not sure how to tweak the brain of the laptop to say, hey, only 100W okay. lol
Also another query
1. Laptop has specs on the back to take in 20V/12A for 240W
2. If i have a GaN charger now 100W it takes up 20V/5A for 100W with barrel adapter --- no issues besides the ones mentioned
3. What if I use a GaN Charger with 140W? Looking at specs it is 20V/5A for 100W and the only reason it is 140W is because it is 28V/5A for 140W... now what happens if I use that with barrel adapter? I would assume it can only use 20V/5A for 100W maximum even though it is 140W GaN charger? Or you think it will be forced to use 28V?
Thanks
@@grapegh0stx mmm, yeah. If the laptop wants more through that barrel jack and sees 20V, the laptop won't have the smarts of the USB system where it will negotiate power levels. That is too bad the power level can't be adjusted down a little. I have stayed with thin and light laptops so I haven't had this issue (they are slower though and forget games).
As far as I know no one sells a 28V PD trigger cable yet, also this wouldn't work and could break things when the laptop gets more voltage than it wants. The current is always limited to 5A for usb cables since the wires are a bit thin. Basically, stepping up to a 140W charger isn't going to fix anything.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yeah figured as much. Thank you for the clarification and response. Guess will just have to find a way to reduce wattage. I honestly didn't knew it cant bypass charge via usb c only till i bought it. Bummer. It can only charge and makes you believe its a passthrough 😅 but ac mode power goes down 😅
I have been using 2 of the wall types for the past year, and I would like to report no problems.
About the safety marks, Japan regulations are probably better lol
Nice! Yeah, I haven't seen what's in their safety documents before. I'd imagine it is pretty comprehensive though.
@AllThingsOnePlace Do you analyse cables? I'm always looking for some "budget" options, I got 2 "Toocki 100w with display" for $1.79 each (Aliexpress). How can I "see" the real max charging speed?
THe Ugreen Nexode 4 port wall charger doesn't have PFC but the Ugreen 2 port nexode 100w does. What weirdness
Yeah, wild. They have a new 100W desktop charger out, CD328, but first listing on amazon says no safety listing at all! I wonder if it has PFC or not. Absolutely no specifications on the UGREEN page.
@@AllThingsOnePlace would love to see your review on that new cd328 if possible!
Hey, I'm curious where you found that info. Are you talking about CD254?
@@djdelarosa25 I find it when I do the testing. Not sure where other people find it. I will have to check out that 2 port one though.
Ugreen is now selling the desktop variant for less than $15 from where I live... Less than $12 if I get 2. It doesnt have stellar reviews on amazon, but im going to bite the bullet and see if its even remotely worth the rock bottom price.
Let me know how it goes.
@AllThingsOnePlace Tested it out with a 65w laptop (it will prompt a slow charger warning but still functional), portable 5w monitor and an iphonex (45+30+20 negotiation). All seem to be working well when using all three type c ports.
There's a reliability issue where if I plug in a fully-charged low power device on the USB-A port the third type c port just keeps switching. Basically, it's not advisable to use all 4 ports unsupervised. Either avoid using the third type C port or the usb A port or just avoid using low power devices on the usb A port. This is really not an issue with my Baseus 100w Gan.
Still trying to test out the limits of this charger. I'd say for a $100 or even $50 you're better off getting a more reliable charger. For the price that I got, it's fine. I just hope it doesn't break any of my devices or set my house on fire. For now I'll block either the third type c or type a charger and just use this device to power my nintendo switch and steamdeck (45+45) and hope it doesn't break just like my Baseus 120 Gan did.
Other issues I found: there's a buzzing/crackling noise emitted from the charger. It sounds similar to the Baseus 120w Gan charger, so I'm unsure if it's something I should worry about.
What puts me off ugreen is lack of safety listing
Yep, that is a risk. They have listings for very few products.
This thing not charging an Apple Watch was a red flag for me
Yeah, it should be just as happy charging something that uses 1w as 100w.
@@AllThingsOnePlace not sure where I read that but apparently it starts at 5W. And the Apple Watch can use up to 1.5W or 2.5W if it’s the newer models with the fast charging compatible cable.
@@LUKAS-bb4jc Weird. Yeah, I do an ultra low power test on every adapter. 0.1W, haven't found one yet that wouldn't supply that with one cable plugged in. With multiple it will choose to turn that lower power port off.
Good thing i bought baseus than this.
I have been really happy with the Baseus and Hyphen-X chargers. I've been using them for a while for everything from charging tiny camera batteries up to a laptop and everything is charged every day. My opinion is the efficiency standards are driving people to make these less quality power adapters since the regulation doesn't require power factor correction just efficiency between 25% and 100% output to be at a certain level.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yes we are the same when it comes to this
i was thinking of buying the ugreen 100watts but i only see its input ampere was only 2.3 amps compared to baseus at 2.5 amps thats what my final judge on buying the baseus i think more amps is good for a higher wattage charger 😅 what is your opinion on this i i also seen a gan charger from mcdodo its 100watts and its input is only at 1.5 amps compared to baseus 100watts its input is at 2.5 amps i wonder will an input amps affect the charging process of the mcdodo at 1.5amps only i have seen many gan charger at 150 watts only having 1.8 input ane 1.5 input ampere i guess this will affect the device when it is utilizing its maximum wattage??
@@elhussin5687So, one thing I check is the input amps on these. Often the rating on the box is not tied to actual performance. They used to list V*A on product labels which made A LOT more sense. They have since dropped that and list maximum amps which as far as I can tell ties into absolutely nothing. It isn't peak amps (which electrically would make sense) or RMS amps which less valuable would also make some sense. It is a number they print on the box that may be a guide to tell you something but doesn't actually tell you anything. The Baseus (multiport 100W) adapter used far less than
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Sigh... Guess I'm not buying them
Well, you can. It's not my recommendation that's all.
These chargers are a total fail!
Waste of money mostly. They do work (but that is a pretty low bar). I was hoping UGREEN got the issues fixed with this new generation of chargers. Nope! The 20W charger from UGREEN is still good but I haven't been impressed by anything else.
Hi. Bad power correction does this means it hurt our laptop battery?
No, it's all about AC power usage, it is a complicated topic. I do have a longer video explaining some of this but yeah it's not generalized enough. Working on some better content to explain this.
@@AllThingsOnePlace cannot wait thanks ✌️