Your power brick reviews are by far the the most thorough I've come across. Nobody else touches on waveform or power factor, for example... Excellent stuff for us nerds.
Just ordered the Ugreen 200W because of your reviews. Thanks for the awesome detailed testing !!! Now to spend time going through your reviews for the powerbanks.
recently converted my wifi and modem to usb-c versions. the modem i had to solder in a 12v trigger board. switched to short baseus usb-c cords and some cheap "20watt charger bricks" which can do the 12v at 1.67amps. compared to the original modem and router my ISP sent us, im saving 6-10bucks per month in electricity which is insane. going to build a little usb-c UPS soon for fun. the project will literally pay for itself in a couple months time and once i upgrade the hardware i can recycle the power brick and usb-c cables. this is the true utility of usb-c. 12v is so useful
Great video again. I'm not surprised you have the Satechi as your daily driver, I'm in the same case. Your recommendation on the 300w Ugreen is looking very interesting since the 4 ports on the satechi are quickly used up if you have more than 4 devices to charge. Looking forward to more awesome content. 😊
I have to say this is my favorite tech channel by far, you're straight to the point, you don't try too hard to make "cinematic" shots, you don't use retarded youtuber language, and you do proper testing not just talk about how you feel about a product. Don't change my friend.
@AllThingsOnePlace Satechi 200w or Ugreen 200w Please let me know. Thank you. Or any other recommendations in 100w i use Samsung 21 Ultra, Acer Swift Laptop, Anker powerbank, Go Pro 9. Which one will you recommend looking at the devices i have. Thank you. Also, i am in Australia.
Dude you’re such a fucking beast I hope your channel blows up, your content is already on par with dave2d and better than unboxtherapy. Watched one video and subbed. Really hope things take off for you, definitely deserve it. Thank you.
Thanks! Yeah, it's been slow. I know my content is pretty specific, the algorithm put the channel on a linear growth trajectory in terms of subscribers, in terms of views, it stopped growing a long time ago. According to YT I am not making the videos audiences want so it's my fault. Yes, I need to do more, but without growth it's hard to put in more time.
Ugreen 300W bricked after 3 months of light usage so I had to return it, there are also many 1-star reviews on Amazon about this particular model with the same issue
Yeah, I don’t actually like it. It’s just the one 300w so it ‘wins’. Even if it’s junk. In the full review of it, it over heats and shuts down pretty quick.
Loving the great detail of your reviews..had to subscribe!!..I just recently picked up the Alfox 200W USB C Charger. its a beast of a charger. Keep doing awesome reviews!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, there are so many of these chargers popping up I can't possibly keep up but I have a bunch of 200 watt ones to review still.
Hey are you making a 2024 version of this video? I noticed it was around this time last year that you posted this and I am in the market for a charger so I figured it was worth an ask :)
Meanwhile, another question: What charger do you recommend for charging small devices like cycle computers, generic watches, generic headphones, generic lights, etc.? These devices typically require 5V with a minimum of 500 mA. Can I use fast chargers without concern?
You can use fast chargers with them but the device may have trouble with some PD chargers if the USB C protocol doesn’t negotiate properly. In general I’ve had good luck though.
I debate between getting 2 chargers of 737 GaNPrime 120W A2148311 vs getting Ugreen CD333-90903B vs getting 3-4 chargers of the anker A2147G21. Also, are the cables I chose good from amazon? Anker 333 100w braided black USB to USB, and anker 331 USB c to lightning braided black. My use case is for iPhone 14 pro, iPhone 16 pro max, airpods pro 2 USB c, apple watch series 10, and iPad air m2 11.
Hello! May I ask you to test new Belkin charger? 45$ & I like size and 3 usb-c /67w - right enough power for my MacBook air and small stuff like iphones and headphones. "BoostCharge 3 Port USB-C Wall Charger PPS 67W" will it be a good and safe option for traveling with?
Someone else just asked this question no a different video. I think this video answers that though, the 100W is in the top spot. The other is good but I think, opinion, the new 100W is better.
Any alternative to Anker A2123? It would be great to have something in the same form factor with as many USB ports as possible with QC3 and higher output of at least 20w per port
Yeah, that's an interesting market for sure. I like the Anker in that case because it probably is a safe and functional product. I have found a lot of bad stuff in the many port arena. It will be a while before I get into something like that since I don't have enough testing equipment to test 8, 10 or more ports at once.
Awesome channel. Will you be doing a review on the Rocoren 200w 6c+2a adapter? Would love to see how these 8 port adapter fare with anker and ugreen. Thanks.
Right now the anker A2343 is $54, the 736 is $40, the 737 $60. Baseus CCGAN100US $48 Which the best deal? Mainly using to charge large power banks (phones im not worried about sonce they all can handle that)
1:17 "I haven't seen any devices that supply more than 28 Volts yet" Framework 16 laptop comes with a PD 3.1 180W USB C charger at 36V 5A. The Framework 16 promises to accept up to a 240W 48V 5A PD 3.1 charger. Get one of those chargers if possible and try it out, its the bleeding edge of tech! (I don't have one)
It may work if your laptop has a USB PD port, it will only work up to 100 watts on one port though (macbook pro and unreleased framework are the only one's I've seen that support the 140W or more mode so far) so performance of the laptop will be very limited or it will drain the battery while using the laptop, even plugged in, if you are doing anything that needs that much power.
what usb c to c cable would you reccomend? I like the ones that have the mini watt display so i can "fact check" the charger and cable. I have a laptop that has a 100w power requirement
Yeah, I have been working on how to put all of that together. It's a lot of content. Of course I want it to be focused on how it matters for consumer products, most of the papers and data focus on industrial consumers of energy and grid scale power systems.
@@AllThingsOnePlace That’s interesting, I’ve run into the same issue when researching Surge Protection Device types. It’s not completely intuitive to me and SPDs don’t exactly work how these companies market them as. Not directly inside your scope here but tangentially related for the power adapters with power sockets!
At 1:02 you are saying "USB-PD currently at version 4.1", but the screen shows 3.1, and the current Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification is at version 3.2.
Nice find! Yeah, I let that one slide in the edit. I am surprised more people haven't caught that. I need to start doing a bloopers episode with all the mistakes people have found, haha.
I'd love to see a review of the isdt 200x. I have one and have been happy with it - especially the 140w charging for my 737, but that's highly anecdotal and would appreciate a more rigorous review.
Yeah, it looks like it's on Amazon now, I tried getting it through Ali and Ebay and they wouldn't ship it to me or would ship the 200 not the 200X. We will see if I can get the correct one finally.
Good advice. Cable choice is missing. From what i viewed in videos, there are three parameters to consider - device specs, charger specs, and of course cable specs - USB A or C (3amps? 5 amps?)..
On the Satechi 165W charger, you say you "don't feel the tingle". I know exactly what you're talking about with some of my chargers while using my Macbook. What causes that?
This is leakage current from the mains through your body to earth. It is usually on the order of hundreds of microamps but enough that you can feel it. It can even mess with touch screens on devices if the leakage is too high. The coupling is often capacitive through a capacitor and the transformer inside a power adapter. This is why some adapters have a leakage path for that current to make it's way to ground though the brick instead of your body. Apple accomplishes this with the clip on extension cables that add a third pin, ground, to their adapters. This is a test I want to add.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceInteresting, because I actually notice it the most on my Apple 30W adapter with the 3-pin extension cord attached. Maybe something is wonky with it.
Will the charger keep all its features while being plugged into an international socket adapter while traveling? The only numbers I'm seeing on my socket adapter are 250V and 10/16A, so I'm assuming I will be able to keep the 100W fast charging features with this thing abroad, right?
hello, i have a dell work laptop, iPad, iPhone 15 pro, apple watch and a macbook m1 air and i'm not sure what adapter to purchase if a 67 watt or a 100 watt?
Up here in Canada I got a couple of 120 W chargers from a company called Oraimo. They are relatively cheap and seem to work well with my devices, but I don't have the equipment to test efficiency and their compliance with the PD standard. Have you seen them? I am curious to know how well they'd perform against more established brands. It doesn't come with any safety markings, but to be honest, I wouldn't have believed them if they did add any safety markings lol
haha, yeah, I have at least one of their adapters to look at, maybe two. I need to get more videos done... I am accumulating untested adapters faster than I can make videos.
I need a power brick for my Nitecore ums2 imr charger and phone. Now i use an apple 20w butt i’ts to slow. It needs to suport qc 2, a minimum of 18 watts and 1-2 usb A ports(i only use usb A) . What du you recomend, have lookt att the anker 65w charger butt it only has one usb A port.
Excluding the protocol, let's assume the all have PD which is all I need. Which 100W+ would you recommend for charging laptop, phone and providing power to consoles with type C power adaptors. It must have Dynamic Load Balancing so power does not cut off when plugging in new devices.
I haven't found any with true dynamic load balancing. Any multiport with non-fixed values per port cuts out at some point or some number of devices. If it is crucial to have performance per port, then individual chargers per device, even then the negotiation hick-ups every once in a while.
Switch not totally sure, it’s different with dock too. I think it needs more current than usb technically allows at the lower voltage. Few others took this approach too. Steam deck, new raspberry pi. I would find a power adapter that matches the output on the switch supplied power adapter. iPad is anything 20w and up. It is broadly compatible with usb c chargers.
Hello sir, I am trying to keep up with you in this video, but I am having issues... Like at 6:19 for example, you say the charger only supports 2 modes of opperation: 5 and 9 volts, but below that it's also seen 12V and some others... what's the difference in those?
The apple requirements are 5 and 9 which it has. The charger does have additional modes. 12V is pretty rarely used but there are devices that use that. The 11V PPS (variable voltage) mode is pretty common though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you very much for your reply! I thought you probably meant that on rewatching :)) I do still have a questions, though, it maybe a silly one but I am new to this :( DJI sells their drones now without a charger and they recommend their 30W DJI charger, and I would get it but it's out of stock everywhere... would any other 30W charger work? I have a Reamle Superdart 65W charger for my phone, would that work too or it will hurt the drone? The back of the charger only gives 2 options 5v at 2amps, or 10v at 6.5 amps. No other options are lister neither does it say PD. I am afraind to try it thinking it might hurt the drone.
@@penkatadrums The drone should slow charge if you use the DART charger, that 10v mode is proprietary so not PD compatible, it should default to 5V 2amps, or 10W though. Basically, need to find out what modes the DJI charger has and then match them up to another charger. Something like the UGREEN 30W Nexode is cheap and generally not bad, there are better ones but for the price you can generally get the UGREEN for.
Btw will you make a video about safety listings Because I only know that UL or ELT is common in USA but I'm from EU and when I try to research this info it yields no result I know that Lenovo owner manual recommends buying products with CE marking only
I was planning to get Ugreen 300 Watt adapter for all my accessories, as per your review I think its a very good adapter but I have a little doubt and I know you can answer vary well. Other than consuming a bit higher standby power is there any disadvantages of using such a huge charger for 20 Watt, 30 Watt and 65 Watt devices? Also you have mentioned there is higher noise on low power consumption, does this impact other device hardware? I think device pulls power as much as they can and stops on their max limit threshold, i.e if you plugin 67 Watt Macbook pro in 140 Watt PD port it will take around 67 Watt. My concern is, Is it 100% safe to plugin any low power devices in high power output port? Does it impact the charging module of devices in long run? Simply charging an Iphone in 140 Watt port is safe? As I can monitor while using my Macbook adapter for Ipad and Iphone, the adapter stays cool and I think cooler is better. Please let me know, I guess other friends also have this concerns too. PD form factor is groing day by day, I just saw 400 Watt adapter on the internet 😀
Would you have a recommendation for an iPhone, Apple Watch ultra 2, iPad Pro 12.9, and AirPods Pro and some times a MB Pro? I have chargers for all of them but would like to just put them all in one place in my house.
So you'd say you want all things in one place? Anyway, yeah 5 devices is tough, but I think you can get that down to two chargers pretty easily. Here are two options: For the low power devices, everything except the macbook, I'd go with a Baseus 100w GaN 3 desktop charger, you'd need a USB A to lightning and a USB A to watch charger though. They updated this model and the one thing that should've changed is three USB C ports and one USB A port but nope. For the laptop, I'd actually keep the macbook pro supplied charger. An alternate is the Satechi 165W, it is both oversized and undersized for the job. It only has four ports so mixing it with a small 30W adapter would get you that 5th port on all USB C at that point. The laptop, ipad, watch and airpods can charge on the Satechi and then the phone can charge from the separate charger. Of course there are tons of options.
@@J-Storm-iz1bh But this is a buyer's guide and not a survey of the technology available. The Baseus is not a recommended buy because its exactly like the desktop version? And not all Baseus are the same. I believe the lower wattage devices are pretty poor. I do think form factor is an advantage of the Anker. I don't like tall adapters like the Baseus. Its why I would consider the anker although the price premium makes it a touch choice. I was just wondering if that was solely the reason. In the video he seems to imply that but it isn't really clear at least to me.
The Anker was chosen because of it's performance over the Baseus wall adapter specifically. The Baseus 100W wall adapter has some struggles with negotiation of USB and is a little less efficient, yes the Anker is also smaller and lighter. As with any of these adapters, finding a sale is recommended and they are often on sale.
Satechi 200w or Ugreen 200w Please let me know. Thank you. Or any other recommendations in 100w i use Samsung 21 Ultra, Acer Swift Laptop, Anker powerbank, Go Pro 9. Which one will you recommend looking at the devices i have. Thank you. Also i am in Australia.
Weird that your HP laptop doesn't charge with most adapters, my work laptot looks to be a very similar Probook (mine is a 450 G9) and it works fine with my two 30W and 45W PD adapters (at 20V). I just left the standard barrel plug adapter in the box.
I hope that newer model means they upgraded the charging, this is a 445 G8, and it mostly doesn't work with things. This is my newest computer. I need a tech upgrade.
Sorry i want to ask what the best for chargers above 100w what the best for long term use i use recoren about 3 or 4 months and its broken and i want to use as portable charger
Apple 140w if you need that level. Anker's 240W is decent. Framework is also good for 140W. Most of the other ones self destruct fairly quickly, too much heat.
Thank you for the every informative video, I'm currently looking at the Anker adapters for the purpose of charging my devices. An adroid phone, an intel macbook pro and an iPad mini 5th gen I just wanted to ask, do cables play a role in terms of charging your devices? I plan to grab some anker cables too and I'm not sure if it would be worth the extra money I'll be spending If you have any suggestions I would gladly appreciate it
Yeah, you will have to do a little protocol exploring. The Apple products are pretty easy, USB PD. The Android could be literally anything from 5V only to one of the crazy methods like 250W VOOC. The Anker in this video will deliver slower charging to two of the devices and one PD device. So, 65W, 10W, 10W probably.
I always buy Anker cables because of their lifetime warranty. They last a long time but if they start having issues (like they won't work with Android Auto, USB-C only charge in one orientation) they replace them without making me ship the old ones back (you have to send pictures of the old ones destroyed).
Just had my second USB-C die on Nexode 300W. I used only that one for both laptops (90W + 65W) and two phones (30W + 85W). Most of the time only 2 devices are plugged in but frequently I had 3rd one. Maybe once did I use all ports. Most of the time I charge 1 laptop & one phone or 2 laptops. So not sure if the point of this one was to work sometimes and "cool off" or did I receive faulty charger. After watching your Nexode review I think it was simply overheating and killed 2 ports. I still have my 140W and lowest port (I assume 100W) work but not sure until when. First port failed last month. So it takes about 3 months of average usage (family that has 2 laptops active most of the day) to destory it. I was disapointed but your review helped to understand what might be the problem - simply these were intended to use 2x a day for max 2 hours and stop which is not the what you assume with the size of this device
Wow yeah, that should not happen! It is true that I did struggle with the full load condition on that charger. Meaning it will overheat but it should recover not fail completely. Very odd behavior. I will pay attention and see if anyone else has any reported failures.
Why did you skip 65w? Is all option are generally bad? I am really looking a brick that can charge mac, ipad, an an iphone (doesn't have to be simultaneously). I hope we can discuss it!
I did skip 65W since I just didn't find any great ones at this time. Nothing new either. Hopefully, next time around there will be some better ones. 65W is probably a good choice for those devices if you only one to do one at a time.
The one I am currently using, isn't available anymore, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09YPXDKKF but there are tons of options out there. I had another one that actually failed, the wire end broke off, but it was my fault...
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThank you very much. I'll do some digging. One more thing: do you have any recommendations for USB power banks that can also function as uninterruptible power supplies?
Thank you for all your detailed work on these chargers. Much appreciated. I have only one suggestion which is to include Mcdodo chargers in your reviews and comparisons, as well. Mcdodo is the direct competitor to Baseus and the prices of their chargers are considerably lower than those of Baseus in my area. I've been eyeing their 140w charger and one major reason that's held me from buying one is that I haven't seen a detailed review of them from you. Haha! The 140w Mcdodo charger in question is CH-2911 which is 64USD in my area, whereas the 140w offerings from Baseus and Ugreen are 84USD and 102USD, respectively. Keep up the valuable work. Godspeed or, in your specific case, Thorspeed!
I've done some mcdodo products for sure but yeah, the higher power products haven't made it. Thank you for the specific model and details on which one to look at but even still I can't find that one. This is what has limited mcdodo products from getting onto the channel. I can see only two (that is a red flag in itself) on eBay one is $120 USD, too many dollars. The other is a CH-290, although they look 'the same' but yeah, this is why I also don't use these sites often, the item you get versus the description and functionality don't align. It is on the list and I will keep looking!
@@AllThingsOnePlace You're welcome and thanks for your response and consideration. The SKU for 291 is CH-2911. I haven't seen the 290 (CH-290) because only CH-2011 is available and prevalent in my area. The EU plug version of CH-2911 goes for 36.29USD on the wholesale page of Mcdodo. I also found the CH-2911 on the retail page of Mcdodo, but it's in Indian currency if I'm not mistaken. Yes, it's rather hard to trust 3rd-party vendors when it comes to Chinese brand products, unless they've got good reviews. I don't know if TH-cam allows for the links to be commented, however I try leaving the mentioned links below this reply. Thanks again, man.
Great video! I was wondering if there is a recommendation to having a charger with 6 to 8 USB-C ports. The purpose is to charge iPhones, watches, tablets... its not required to charge a laptop.
The iPhone likes to charge around 20 watts, so any charger in that range is good, it can go a little faster. The laptop is an unknown, you need to check if the laptop supports USB PD. Depending on the power requirement for that device a 100 - 165 watt adapter will be able to do the phone, laptop, and probably one more small device relatively efficiently and effectively.
Well you answered my question about why my dell laptop will not charge via the USB C port using my Anker 140w charger. I need one of those barrel plugs for USB C to the Dell barrel
Probably one of the best channels comparing USB adapters. I used to think that they were all the same if they have the same power rating and specs. Can you do a review comparing gan3 vs gan5 adapters? Especially the baseus ones? I've been looking for detailed gan5 reviews
Yeah, it's really difficult to get hands on with some GaN5 stuff. I did the slim power adapter video where I do look at a GaN5 from Baseus. It's a well built adapter, but it isn't a good adapter performance wise. So, from that one time look, it looks like GaN5 is just number go up. They didn't change anything, or made it slightly cheaper and worse.
I can't find that that one anymore. I am still using the one in the video and it has actually held up well but the product category seems to disappear fast. A lot of people have asked about it and I can't seem to find a reputable brand that keeps the product around for more than a month.
Hi super video ....im travelling ,i just brought the zmi power bank on your recommendations , whats a good charger to go with this for travel ...at the moment i have an anker 65:watt charger only 1 type c port and 2 type A ports....is there anthing you can recommend ?,please maybe with extra type c ports with good power watts... Thanks
I mean if the 65W charger is working I would say keep it until it either breaks or doesn't do the job anymore. If you need a few more watts the Baseus 100W desktop GaN3 is pretty good for a cabled adapter, and the Anker 100W prime isn't bad if you want a more portable option.
Brilliant reviews!! Are you aware of any anker or ugreen chargers that could help me here for this scenario? I have a hard drive dock plugged in PORT 1 (which need consistant power as its a hard drive), If i plug in something to PORT 2, it re-distributes the power which in turn cuts the power to PORT 1 (for a second), or if i have a device already plugged in and i turn it on, it does the same. I wouldnt mind a charger in which the cables are all taken up, but soon as i switch it one.. dont want it to affect PORT 1. Any advice appreciated.
Yeah, it’s a typical problem. For something mission critical it is safest to have a dedicated adapter for it. Then let the other usb things fight for operation but side line I want to make a thing that just holds the port up for long enough so it can renegotiate without dropping voltage. Some of the big adapters will keep port one on no matter what, like the anker 240w adapter. But to use that port for a hard drive only is a bit of a waste.
I found this video incredibly helpful in understanding the different charger options available. As I am considering purchasing a new charger for my iPhone 15 Pro Max, I wanted to reach out to you for some guidance. Could you please advise me on which charger from your recommendations would be the best choice for maintaining the battery health of the iPhone 15 Pro Max? I value your expertise and would greatly appreciate your insights on this matter. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Looking forward to your response.
I charge my iPhone as fast as I can, ha. I know some people still have the fear of fast charging. It is true of extreme speed charging that it will hurt battery health, but the fact is all charging and discharging hurts battery health, it is the extreme ends of things that make that happen faster. Pushing 100 watts into a phone battery is a bad idea. Charging in direct sunlight or freezing cold... Modern phones (from big brands Samsung, Google, iPhone) manage the charge much more carefully to try to make sure the devices don't overheat, damage the cells, or damage anything else while charging so I'm in the fast charge boat. The battery is going to go bad in 4 or 5 years, yeah, maybe it will last 6 years if you charge it in ideal conditions for the entire life of the device. Likely at that point the device will be ready for replacement just due to wear and tear of daily use anyway. If the EU gets it's way the batteries will have to be replaceable, easily, anyway. So, fully opinion based response... The only thing we know is batteries degrade in time and with all charges and discharges.
i have had the worst luck with ugreen. I bought the 300w adapter. then little over a year later 2 of the ports randomly stopped working. Thankfully they let me return it as faulty for full refund so i bought another one. Second one, 4mths later - same thing. Same exact port in fact (port 2 goes first, then port 4). I would love to get your thoughts on longevity of these devices.
Yeah, mine all work of course but yeah I've heard a lot of the 300W ones self destruct unfortunately. They certainly won't be in this years round up, but actually there won't be any at 300 watt range adapters. The 240W anker is likely taking the spot for best high wattage adapter. They still break too...
Amazing in depth content. Thank you! I'm looking for 60-70W PPS charger recommendation. Single output is fine. Is the charger database available on your website? I only see the cable and car charger info on there.
The other website has the chargers. The ranking and basic charger information is all available for free. Yes it has a paywall for the advanced data. I will be looking at the 70W apple charger soon. The Anker 67W was not very interesting. The Amazon Basics 65W is still my go to for that power level, but it is limited in modes of operation, no PPS modes if you need that.
Unfortunately, it's a game of whack a mole. All the ones I bought are not available anymore and they continuously shift in and out of availability and brand names...
May you please clarify is there any downside to using GaN charges instead of included power supply with laptop? I mean in terms of voltage stabilization or bad voltage handling etc. ❤
GAN is simply smaller chips that produce less heat in the charger itself, so there's no benefit if your laptop couldn't charge even faster than the original one.
Adding a little the included power supply may be better in cases because it is thermally designed to be compatible with the laptops power demand but yeah still independent of the MOSFET technology used.
Yeah, the new UGREEN Nexode 30W is actually not bad. It's cheap, even in that video, I kind of hint at that, but the performance of that charger is very good. th-cam.com/video/ENmke0ltNdg/w-d-xo.html
Can you do a video showing the power cost savings of a variety of chargers? For instance, how much money would you save if you charged 3000mah for a phone every day for a year assuming $0.18/kwh using a 30w Pixel charger vs a 65w Ugreen charger vs that Baseus 100w charger? Edit: Or savings charging a laptop.
I’d recommend the Rocoren 100W over the Baseus, much the same performance but removable cable. First of all for those of us not in the US, the Baseus is a non starter. But even for people in the US the ability to change the cable is handy for a few reasons: 1) Travelling abroad, just get the cable for your destination, costs just a few bucks. 2) Cat damages the cable, easy to replace. 3) can get different cable lengths, 3 meters for extra reach, yep or perhaps a very short 50cm cable to go on a desk and reduce cable clutter. Chargers with removable cables just offer much greater flexibility IMO.
Baseus also has a 100W model without any cable that plugs directly into the wall. They call it "GaN5 Pro Fast Charger" and it seems to be the most compact solution of all three. I carry it around with a long 100W nylon cable for my laptops and it works really well. I hope to see a rewiew of it on this channel at some point. If they had to make compromises for the portability, I would love to know. Edit: I just saw they reviewed it here: th-cam.com/video/eZjLvHkiCh8/w-d-xo.html
@@tmfmxo the most compact arent always the best. Excluding the fact they would die faster(in theory ) due to thermals Still waiting for baseus to put 120w ver up fs not sure whats holding them back looks like gan 5 pro 65w
@@amirulizzat2114 "most compact" is relative, it's significantly bigger than my 65W PD charger. It doesn't get excessively hot, and either way it would have been mentioned in the video I linked. The biggest benefit to me is that you lose the cable to mains entirely.
Thanks for the discussion around these different options. I do still need to get more 'GaN5' charges in. But yeah, thermals certainly need to be considered, less efficient and very compact adapters over heat faster and lead to shorter lifespans. It is fairly often a capacitor that fails and renders the whole adapter useless after only a short time of operating too hot.
Strange, we use similar HP laptops at work and we all use different cables and usb chargers (>45w) and they work fine. Surprised to hear about a proprietary charging protocol.
Yeah, this is an AMD laptop so maybe something to do with it? But a good number do not work with this laptop. Dell and HP adapters all connect no problem. The user manual for this laptop also just states use an official HP adapter, no other information, but that's also common these days.
Very interesting video! I'm still thinking wich one should I buy, as I'd like to be able to charge both a 65w phone and 65w laptop, with a power adapter as well as a powerbank. My main concern is loosing charging performance because of the temps, I dont mind much them being high, but if they make the charging speed slower it becomes a problem😅 Any idea? I was thinking of the ZMI Powerpack no.20 and the Ugreen nexode pro 160w, but idk if thats a good choice, I'd like to have a 100w (or higher) port too in case I bought a higher wattage phone, wich I doubt, but just in case
Yeah, multiport devices are tough. Also, a 65W phone charge is difficult since the protocol is likely not going to be compatible with the bulk of chargers, the ZMi might work though as the portable battery component. But yeah, I use a 165W adapter as a daily driver and it probably maxes out at 75 watts in my daily use.
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I bought the Baseus 100W based on your review. Sometimes I can see the USB-C charging switches off/on constantly for a few seconds until I unplug the charger from the electricity. After plugging it back in, it starts to charge correctly. (USB-C power bank or USB-C HP laptop). It happened also when it is the only device to charge. Do I have some faulty device?
It doesn't sound like there is anything wrong, there are some issues with negotiation sometimes on USB C and some devices, HP laptops can be one of them. Baseus supposedly has made this better in later GaN versions of the adapters but I have yet to test that.
I HV apple 15 pro max, I prefer to charge it with old USB 5 watt charger because of less heating,Can you suggest one MFI certified USB a to usb c cable or one 5 watt adapter with USB C output
It is okay to use a lower wattage charger. I'd check the allthings website for the lowest resistance usb cable but really at the low currents almost anything is good. I don't have a specific recommendation though.
Are there really no viable 65W-ish 3-port chargers? I wanted something lightweight for travel to power a laptop, or a fer smaller devices overnight. The 100W Anker A2343's weight and form factor would make it easily fall out of worn plane sockets, and the Baseus 100W GaN3 desktop charger doesn't have a detachable cable which makes it bulkier and heavier to pack.
Yeah, I end up wrapping the cable around the seat to get the anker to stay in plane sockets, but weight wise, most 65's are in the same range. True on the Baseus I don't travel with that most of the time. The minix or invzi or one of the 100's of clones seem fine for plane travel and general travel needs, they do work for USB charging needs. It's hard to pick a winner for 65W they really all perform the same.
Gotcha, thanks for the reply. Are there no good GaN charging ICs in that wattage range to build a good charger around? Or is the volume in that category too low for companies to care to compete?
Do you still recommend the Hyphen-X RH-PD100W ? Or does the Anker 2343 Beat it now ? Is your PQS score how we should be interpreting all your data, as best to worst ?
The hyphen-X is still a decent charger, it does have high idle power usage compared with some of the newer offerings. But as a charger it is still fine. I still use mine once in a while. So, PQS is really a piece of the pie. It's really trying to show how devices consume AC power, higher is better, meaning the data at the socket (the way things are often measured) is more representative of the actual product performance. As PQS decreases, the device will actually consume additional power that isn't measured, on an individual device level this is small, on a household level, say 20 or 30 of these things scattered around it can be more like 10 - 15% of your electricity bill or worse if poor PQS choices are made. The aggregate is where it matters but I fail miserably at describing this.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Well I will say this. You expertise is on full display when you talk about these things. And I am positive we all can tell you are passionate about this. Since a lot of times we look towards a Subject Matter Expert (which you appear to be) your value is in your recommendations/opinion. In my opinion, you should end all your videos with a clear and concise recommendation & ranking. ( a ranking system we can all easily access, would be GOLDEN. not just your website, which makes it hard to understand which charger is best and for what reasons) You just did your best of 2023 list. But what happens next month if your favorite changes? Do we have to wait until the end of 2024 to find out? Keep a updated list with rankings, that makes it easy for someone to find the best chargers. Even if you are hesitant to give a recommendation or opinion. You've reviewed, what? hundreds of chargers? You are officially the go to source on phone chargers. Embrace it, and give your opinion. Hopefully this makes sense to, and Im not just rambling....
Sir, I have a 65W UGREEN GaN charger as a replacement for my original 33W phone charger. I expected to achieve faster charging speeds due to its higher wattage, but unfortunately, that was not the case. The UGREEN 65W charger charges quickly at the beginning but slows down as the battery approaches full capacity, especially from 90% onwards. Why does this happen?
This is because of how lithium ion batteries charge. The top end of the charge curve is during a constant voltage charging mode and the current falls during this period so the wattage decreases. This is standard across all lithium ion charging. The device decides how many 'watts' to consumer as well so the larger power adapter, if oversized, may not increase charging speed at all.
Do you have recommendations for chargers that do *not* renegotiate when a second device is connected or disconnected? (I saw that you do check this in your reviews, but I cannot watch them all and try to find the exact spot where this is tested in each video... :))
Yeah, there is so much, I struggle to keep track of it. They basically all do it at some point. So, a 200 watt adapter, won't with two devices plugged in but a third device will cause a cascade of renegotiation. There are some real cheap adapters out there that deliver 20 or 30 watts to each port, those don't renegotiate but they have other issues.
I recently bought one of those usb voltmeter/ammeters that can be plugged between the charger and the usb cable to display the current and voltage. I was wondering how i would be able to verify whether a certain power source supports PD PPS? What would be the expected output values? I've gone around and tested all my existing chargers and most of them only reach about 9V 1.6A so only about 15W with my samsung s21, which is supposed to support pd pps to 25w. even though some of them do display the "super fast charging" animation when plugged in, it doesnt seem to be reaching 25w?
There is a charging power limit in settings for Samsung devices. That could be one reason but it may also be true that the devices don't have PPS. 9V sounds correct though but it may be the current limit of each charger that is being hit instead. I use the PD trigger board which provides a different color LED to indicate the different modes of operation.
There may be a few reasons for that... if the p30 is indicating the speed it just isn't indicating correctly, or the port has an extra mode that Anker doesn't disclose.
Your power brick reviews are by far the the most thorough I've come across. Nobody else touches on waveform or power factor, for example... Excellent stuff for us nerds.
Thanks! Yeah, it isn't for everyone but there's plenty of "yep, it plugs in and works" reviews out there.
Thanks! Wonderfully geeky and detailed reviews. Much respect!
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Just ordered the Ugreen 200W because of your reviews. Thanks for the awesome detailed testing !!!
Now to spend time going through your reviews for the powerbanks.
haha, so many videos.
recently converted my wifi and modem to usb-c versions. the modem i had to solder in a 12v trigger board. switched to short baseus usb-c cords and some cheap "20watt charger bricks" which can do the 12v at 1.67amps. compared to the original modem and router my ISP sent us, im saving 6-10bucks per month in electricity which is insane. going to build a little usb-c UPS soon for fun. the project will literally pay for itself in a couple months time and once i upgrade the hardware i can recycle the power brick and usb-c cables. this is the true utility of usb-c. 12v is so useful
Those original power supplies must have been awful to be saving that much... Anyway, sounds like a good project!
I picked up a Rocoren 100W based on your review. I've only had it for a week, but I definitely appreciate the removable cord and standard connector.
Mine blew after 6 months
That is not a very long life. But yeah, the Baseus has seemed to hold up better in the long term for me so it keeps the spot as the top pick.
@pbatacan ah, that's unfortunate. I suppose they cut some corners to reach the lower price. Hopefully I'll get a bit luckier with mine.
@@AllThingsOnePlacewhy didnt u included the beasus 100w wall? Isn’t it the same as the desktop on but the wall version has removed wire
@@pbatacandid you put in a warranty claim? If you did, how was the process?
Great video again. I'm not surprised you have the Satechi as your daily driver, I'm in the same case.
Your recommendation on the 300w Ugreen is looking very interesting since the 4 ports on the satechi are quickly used up if you have more than 4 devices to charge.
Looking forward to more awesome content. 😊
Yeah, if I had more laptops or didn't have so many power adapters to pick from, I'd probably use the UGREEN. Certainly a power user kind of device.
I have to say this is my favorite tech channel by far, you're straight to the point, you don't try too hard to make "cinematic" shots, you don't use retarded youtuber language, and you do proper testing not just talk about how you feel about a product. Don't change my friend.
haha, but this adapter really did make me happy and give me a warm sensation of greatness. My 'cinematic' shots could use work.
@AllThingsOnePlace Satechi 200w or Ugreen 200w Please let me know. Thank you. Or any other recommendations in 100w i use Samsung 21 Ultra, Acer Swift Laptop, Anker powerbank, Go Pro 9. Which one will you recommend looking at the devices i have. Thank you. Also, i am in Australia.
Dude you’re such a fucking beast I hope your channel blows up, your content is already on par with dave2d and better than unboxtherapy. Watched one video and subbed. Really hope things take off for you, definitely deserve it. Thank you.
Thanks! Yeah, it's been slow. I know my content is pretty specific, the algorithm put the channel on a linear growth trajectory in terms of subscribers, in terms of views, it stopped growing a long time ago. According to YT I am not making the videos audiences want so it's my fault. Yes, I need to do more, but without growth it's hard to put in more time.
Ugreen 300W bricked after 3 months of light usage so I had to return it, there are also many 1-star reviews on Amazon about this particular model with the same issue
Yeah, I don’t actually like it. It’s just the one 300w so it ‘wins’. Even if it’s junk. In the full review of it, it over heats and shuts down pretty quick.
Thanks!
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Thank you. Excellent review. Keep up with the technical info. The best I have seen till now
Thanks for watching!
I think you may have misspoke… USB-C PD is at version 3.1 not 4.1 1:01
By the way… EXCELLENT job with this… I LOVE your work!
Ah ha. Nice find!
Loving the great detail of your reviews..had to subscribe!!..I just recently picked up the Alfox 200W USB C Charger. its a beast of a charger. Keep doing awesome reviews!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, there are so many of these chargers popping up I can't possibly keep up but I have a bunch of 200 watt ones to review still.
Thank you for introducing the protocols. It's very useful for me to buy my charger.
You're welcome.
Hey are you making a 2024 version of this video? I noticed it was around this time last year that you posted this and I am in the market for a charger so I figured it was worth an ask :)
It's being worked on now, will get something done by tomorrow hopefully, it might just be the same video with a few choice updates.
Few weeks ago was thinking about when you'd make something like this, thanks! As me and my friend are in the market to get one
Yeah, I need to try to get a semi-annual summary out.
so lucky to discover you ,, cheers man
The algorithm has favored you today.
Meanwhile, another question: What charger do you recommend for charging small devices like cycle computers, generic watches, generic headphones, generic lights, etc.? These devices typically require 5V with a minimum of 500 mA. Can I use fast chargers without concern?
You can use fast chargers with them but the device may have trouble with some PD chargers if the USB C protocol doesn’t negotiate properly. In general I’ve had good luck though.
I debate between getting 2 chargers of 737 GaNPrime 120W A2148311 vs getting Ugreen CD333-90903B vs getting 3-4 chargers of the anker A2147G21. Also, are the cables I chose good from amazon? Anker 333 100w braided black USB to USB, and anker 331 USB c to lightning braided black. My use case is for iPhone 14 pro, iPhone 16 pro max, airpods pro 2 USB c, apple watch series 10, and iPad air m2 11.
Hello! May I ask you to test new Belkin charger? 45$ & I like size and 3 usb-c /67w - right enough power for my MacBook air and small stuff like iphones and headphones. "BoostCharge 3 Port USB-C Wall Charger PPS 67W" will it be a good and safe option for traveling with?
Thanks, yeah that is on the list.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I didn't wait and ordered one for myself, but will still be very much looking forward to your review! Love your stuff
Thanks a lot for your focus on safety
Other reviews aren't useful as they mostly miss this
Thanks. Yeah, just a piece of the puzzle.
Hi, what do you think is better between Anker 737 (120W) and the new Anker 100W? Thanks.
Someone else just asked this question no a different video. I think this video answers that though, the 100W is in the top spot. The other is good but I think, opinion, the new 100W is better.
Any alternative to Anker A2123? It would be great to have something in the same form factor with as many USB ports as possible with QC3 and higher output of at least 20w per port
Yeah, that's an interesting market for sure. I like the Anker in that case because it probably is a safe and functional product. I have found a lot of bad stuff in the many port arena. It will be a while before I get into something like that since I don't have enough testing equipment to test 8, 10 or more ports at once.
Awesome channel. Will you be doing a review on the Rocoren 200w 6c+2a adapter? Would love to see how these 8 port adapter fare with anker and ugreen. Thanks.
Not sure, I added it to the list.
Right now the anker A2343 is $54, the 736 is $40, the 737 $60. Baseus CCGAN100US $48
Which the best deal? Mainly using to charge large power banks (phones im not worried about sonce they all can handle that)
Hmm. The a2343 is a good charger. The 747 with a few extra watts is tempting.
1:17 "I haven't seen any devices that supply more than 28 Volts yet"
Framework 16 laptop comes with a PD 3.1 180W USB C charger at 36V 5A. The Framework 16 promises to accept up to a 240W 48V 5A PD 3.1 charger.
Get one of those chargers if possible and try it out, its the bleeding edge of tech! (I don't have one)
I don't think anyone outside of Framework has their 36V EPS charger. The Framework 16 hasn't shipped yet.
@@claykin1 Ouch forgot about that
But yeah, when those are out, I absolutely want to get one and put it through some testing. The smaller Framework adapter was very well made.
Can I use it for my 240w laptop? Which port should I use? Because 140w is the maximum of all ports. Hope you will answer my question. Thank you!!
It may work if your laptop has a USB PD port, it will only work up to 100 watts on one port though (macbook pro and unreleased framework are the only one's I've seen that support the 140W or more mode so far) so performance of the laptop will be very limited or it will drain the battery while using the laptop, even plugged in, if you are doing anything that needs that much power.
On 00:12 there is small white box in top left corner. What is that?
I don't see anything.
Maybe they mean the device on top of the orange device.
what usb c to c cable would you reccomend? I like the ones that have the mini watt display so i can "fact check" the charger and cable. I have a laptop that has a 100w power requirement
USB cables 4: th-cam.com/video/HMqaw0I97zk/w-d-xo.html
@@AllThingsOnePlace oops, thank you. Do you plan on reviewing any when a screen showing watts?
Do a Tier list for a charger with small voltage support like wirelessbuds,headphones, mini speaker, smartwatch etc.
hmm, every charger can charge the smaller devices, if they are 5v only, you may need a usb adapter to fool the smart chargers.
It would be really helpful if you did a standalone video on protocols and the technicals of electricity supply!
Yeah, I have been working on how to put all of that together. It's a lot of content. Of course I want it to be focused on how it matters for consumer products, most of the papers and data focus on industrial consumers of energy and grid scale power systems.
@@AllThingsOnePlace That’s interesting, I’ve run into the same issue when researching Surge Protection Device types. It’s not completely intuitive to me and SPDs don’t exactly work how these companies market them as.
Not directly inside your scope here but tangentially related for the power adapters with power sockets!
Thanks for the reviews! Where can I view the list with the chargers?
I am still working on that.
At 1:02 you are saying "USB-PD currently at version 4.1", but the screen shows 3.1, and the current Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification is at version 3.2.
Nice find! Yeah, I let that one slide in the edit. I am surprised more people haven't caught that. I need to start doing a bloopers episode with all the mistakes people have found, haha.
I'd love to see a review of the isdt 200x. I have one and have been happy with it - especially the 140w charging for my 737, but that's highly anecdotal and would appreciate a more rigorous review.
Yeah, it looks like it's on Amazon now, I tried getting it through Ali and Ebay and they wouldn't ship it to me or would ship the 200 not the 200X. We will see if I can get the correct one finally.
Good advice. Cable choice is missing. From what i viewed in videos, there are three parameters to consider - device specs, charger specs, and of course cable specs - USB A or C (3amps? 5 amps?)..
mmhmm. I can incorporate the cables into the 2024 edition of this video.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Do you have a timeline for the 2024 video to be released? Thanks.
On the Satechi 165W charger, you say you "don't feel the tingle". I know exactly what you're talking about with some of my chargers while using my Macbook. What causes that?
This is leakage current from the mains through your body to earth. It is usually on the order of hundreds of microamps but enough that you can feel it. It can even mess with touch screens on devices if the leakage is too high. The coupling is often capacitive through a capacitor and the transformer inside a power adapter. This is why some adapters have a leakage path for that current to make it's way to ground though the brick instead of your body. Apple accomplishes this with the clip on extension cables that add a third pin, ground, to their adapters. This is a test I want to add.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceInteresting, because I actually notice it the most on my Apple 30W adapter with the 3-pin extension cord attached. Maybe something is wonky with it.
Fantastic video. What do you recommend for usb c 12 volt? Any possibility to power a compressor fridge ?
USB won't deliver enough current for that application.
Will the charger keep all its features while being plugged into an international socket adapter while traveling? The only numbers I'm seeing on my socket adapter are 250V and 10/16A, so I'm assuming I will be able to keep the 100W fast charging features with this thing abroad, right?
hello, i have a dell work laptop, iPad, iPhone 15 pro, apple watch and a macbook m1 air and i'm not sure what adapter to purchase if a 67 watt or a 100 watt?
That's a lot of devices! 100 watt for sure, still won't do all the devices at once.
Up here in Canada I got a couple of 120 W chargers from a company called Oraimo. They are relatively cheap and seem to work well with my devices, but I don't have the equipment to test efficiency and their compliance with the PD standard. Have you seen them? I am curious to know how well they'd perform against more established brands. It doesn't come with any safety markings, but to be honest, I wouldn't have believed them if they did add any safety markings lol
haha, yeah, I have at least one of their adapters to look at, maybe two. I need to get more videos done... I am accumulating untested adapters faster than I can make videos.
I need a power brick for my Nitecore ums2 imr charger and phone. Now i use an apple 20w butt i’ts to slow. It needs to suport qc 2, a minimum of 18 watts and 1-2 usb A ports(i only use usb A) . What du you recomend, have lookt att the anker 65w charger butt it only has one usb A port.
If you need QC, Baseus 100W Gan3 desktop adapter.
Would love to see a review of Nomad's slim chargers. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks.
Excluding the protocol, let's assume the all have PD which is all I need. Which 100W+ would you recommend for charging laptop, phone and providing power to consoles with type C power adaptors. It must have Dynamic Load Balancing so power does not cut off when plugging in new devices.
I haven't found any with true dynamic load balancing. Any multiport with non-fixed values per port cuts out at some point or some number of devices. If it is crucial to have performance per port, then individual chargers per device, even then the negotiation hick-ups every once in a while.
@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you! So I should abort the plan to use one or two high watt chargers as replacement for dedicated power supplies
Great video mate! Thanks.
May I ask a question, what is the best option to charge my nintendo switch and iPad?
Switch not totally sure, it’s different with dock too. I think it needs more current than usb technically allows at the lower voltage. Few others took this approach too. Steam deck, new raspberry pi. I would find a power adapter that matches the output on the switch supplied power adapter. iPad is anything 20w and up. It is broadly compatible with usb c chargers.
Hello sir, I am trying to keep up with you in this video, but I am having issues... Like at 6:19 for example, you say the charger only supports 2 modes of opperation: 5 and 9 volts, but below that it's also seen 12V and some others... what's the difference in those?
The apple requirements are 5 and 9 which it has. The charger does have additional modes. 12V is pretty rarely used but there are devices that use that. The 11V PPS (variable voltage) mode is pretty common though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you very much for your reply! I thought you probably meant that on rewatching :)) I do still have a questions, though, it maybe a silly one but I am new to this :( DJI sells their drones now without a charger and they recommend their 30W DJI charger, and I would get it but it's out of stock everywhere... would any other 30W charger work? I have a Reamle Superdart 65W charger for my phone, would that work too or it will hurt the drone? The back of the charger only gives 2 options 5v at 2amps, or 10v at 6.5 amps. No other options are lister neither does it say PD. I am afraind to try it thinking it might hurt the drone.
@@penkatadrums The drone should slow charge if you use the DART charger, that 10v mode is proprietary so not PD compatible, it should default to 5V 2amps, or 10W though. Basically, need to find out what modes the DJI charger has and then match them up to another charger. Something like the UGREEN 30W Nexode is cheap and generally not bad, there are better ones but for the price you can generally get the UGREEN for.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you!!
Btw will you make a video about safety listings
Because I only know that UL or ELT is common in USA but I'm from EU and when I try to research this info it yields no result
I know that Lenovo owner manual recommends buying products with CE marking only
Yeah, I have a video planned on that. Still in planning stages.
I was planning to get Ugreen 300 Watt adapter for all my accessories, as per your review I think its a very good adapter but I have a little doubt and I know you can answer vary well. Other than consuming a bit higher standby power is there any disadvantages of using such a huge charger for 20 Watt, 30 Watt and 65 Watt devices? Also you have mentioned there is higher noise on low power consumption, does this impact other device hardware? I think device pulls power as much as they can and stops on their max limit threshold, i.e if you plugin 67 Watt Macbook pro in 140 Watt PD port it will take around 67 Watt. My concern is, Is it 100% safe to plugin any low power devices in high power output port? Does it impact the charging module of devices in long run? Simply charging an Iphone in 140 Watt port is safe? As I can monitor while using my Macbook adapter for Ipad and Iphone, the adapter stays cool and I think cooler is better. Please let me know, I guess other friends also have this concerns too. PD form factor is groing day by day, I just saw 400 Watt adapter on the internet 😀
Excellent guide. Would be nice if you could review the low cost AliExpress chargers. The 65W/67W USBc charger are sold around $12 and they look good.
Yeah, they cut corners in many cases. That lower price usually means something. I'd watch diode gone wild.
What about the actual usb c cable? Do I need a special cable to use with my 100 watt charger?
Yes, an e-marked cable. They may say 100 or 240 watt on them now or some older ones say 5A capable.
Would you have a recommendation for an iPhone, Apple Watch ultra 2, iPad Pro 12.9, and AirPods Pro and some times a MB Pro? I have chargers for all of them but would like to just put them all in one place in my house.
So you'd say you want all things in one place? Anyway, yeah 5 devices is tough, but I think you can get that down to two chargers pretty easily. Here are two options:
For the low power devices, everything except the macbook, I'd go with a Baseus 100w GaN 3 desktop charger, you'd need a USB A to lightning and a USB A to watch charger though. They updated this model and the one thing that should've changed is three USB C ports and one USB A port but nope. For the laptop, I'd actually keep the macbook pro supplied charger.
An alternate is the Satechi 165W, it is both oversized and undersized for the job. It only has four ports so mixing it with a small 30W adapter would get you that 5th port on all USB C at that point. The laptop, ipad, watch and airpods can charge on the Satechi and then the phone can charge from the separate charger.
Of course there are tons of options.
Interesting the Anker Prime 100W is the recommendation over the Baseus 100W wall charger. Form factor? Baseus is still significantly cheaper.
Too similar to the desktop version included and even the 140w Rocoren. Apart from the price the Anker is more interesting to include.
@@J-Storm-iz1bh But this is a buyer's guide and not a survey of the technology available. The Baseus is not a recommended buy because its exactly like the desktop version? And not all Baseus are the same. I believe the lower wattage devices are pretty poor.
I do think form factor is an advantage of the Anker. I don't like tall adapters like the Baseus. Its why I would consider the anker although the price premium makes it a touch choice. I was just wondering if that was solely the reason. In the video he seems to imply that but it isn't really clear at least to me.
The Anker was chosen because of it's performance over the Baseus wall adapter specifically. The Baseus 100W wall adapter has some struggles with negotiation of USB and is a little less efficient, yes the Anker is also smaller and lighter. As with any of these adapters, finding a sale is recommended and they are often on sale.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Great. Thanks for the clarification.
Satechi 200w or Ugreen 200w Please let me know. Thank you. Or any other recommendations in 100w i use Samsung 21 Ultra, Acer Swift Laptop, Anker powerbank, Go Pro 9. Which one will you recommend looking at the devices i have. Thank you. Also i am in Australia.
I answered this on another video too, but with that mix of devices probably UGREEN.
@AllThingsOnePlace ok Thank you.
Weird that your HP laptop doesn't charge with most adapters, my work laptot looks to be a very similar Probook (mine is a 450 G9) and it works fine with my two 30W and 45W PD adapters (at 20V). I just left the standard barrel plug adapter in the box.
I hope that newer model means they upgraded the charging, this is a 445 G8, and it mostly doesn't work with things. This is my newest computer. I need a tech upgrade.
Sorry i want to ask what the best for chargers above 100w what the best for long term use i use recoren about 3 or 4 months and its broken and i want to use as portable charger
Apple 140w if you need that level. Anker's 240W is decent. Framework is also good for 140W. Most of the other ones self destruct fairly quickly, too much heat.
Thank you for the every informative video, I'm currently looking at the Anker adapters for the purpose of charging my devices. An adroid phone, an intel macbook pro and an iPad mini 5th gen
I just wanted to ask, do cables play a role in terms of charging your devices? I plan to grab some anker cables too and I'm not sure if it would be worth the extra money I'll be spending
If you have any suggestions I would gladly appreciate it
Yeah, you will have to do a little protocol exploring. The Apple products are pretty easy, USB PD. The Android could be literally anything from 5V only to one of the crazy methods like 250W VOOC. The Anker in this video will deliver slower charging to two of the devices and one PD device. So, 65W, 10W, 10W probably.
I always buy Anker cables because of their lifetime warranty. They last a long time but if they start having issues (like they won't work with Android Auto, USB-C only charge in one orientation) they replace them without making me ship the old ones back (you have to send pictures of the old ones destroyed).
Can your make the Car Charger version? Thanks!
Yeah, I need to get on that.
Just had my second USB-C die on Nexode 300W. I used only that one for both laptops (90W + 65W) and two phones (30W + 85W). Most of the time only 2 devices are plugged in but frequently I had 3rd one. Maybe once did I use all ports. Most of the time I charge 1 laptop & one phone or 2 laptops. So not sure if the point of this one was to work sometimes and "cool off" or did I receive faulty charger. After watching your Nexode review I think it was simply overheating and killed 2 ports. I still have my 140W and lowest port (I assume 100W) work but not sure until when. First port failed last month. So it takes about 3 months of average usage (family that has 2 laptops active most of the day) to destory it. I was disapointed but your review helped to understand what might be the problem - simply these were intended to use 2x a day for max 2 hours and stop which is not the what you assume with the size of this device
Wow yeah, that should not happen! It is true that I did struggle with the full load condition on that charger. Meaning it will overheat but it should recover not fail completely. Very odd behavior. I will pay attention and see if anyone else has any reported failures.
Intresting my hp probook 650 g8 seams to work with all sorts of chargers it charges from a lenovo charger and even from my samsung monitors usbc.
Yeah. Seems like they are getting better.
Why did you skip 65w? Is all option are generally bad? I am really looking a brick that can charge mac, ipad, an an iphone (doesn't have to be simultaneously). I hope we can discuss it!
I did skip 65W since I just didn't find any great ones at this time. Nothing new either. Hopefully, next time around there will be some better ones. 65W is probably a good choice for those devices if you only one to do one at a time.
I'd like to know what usb-c to barrel jack cable you used? I can see that being super useful for me
The one I am currently using, isn't available anymore, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09YPXDKKF but there are tons of options out there. I had another one that actually failed, the wire end broke off, but it was my fault...
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThank you very much. I'll do some digging. One more thing: do you have any recommendations for USB power banks that can also function as uninterruptible power supplies?
Thank you for all your detailed work on these chargers. Much appreciated.
I have only one suggestion which is to include Mcdodo chargers in your reviews and comparisons, as well.
Mcdodo is the direct competitor to Baseus and the prices of their chargers are considerably lower than those of Baseus in my area.
I've been eyeing their 140w charger and one major reason that's held me from buying one is that I haven't seen a detailed review of them from you. Haha!
The 140w Mcdodo charger in question is CH-2911 which is 64USD in my area, whereas the 140w offerings from Baseus and Ugreen are 84USD and 102USD, respectively.
Keep up the valuable work. Godspeed or, in your specific case, Thorspeed!
I've done some mcdodo products for sure but yeah, the higher power products haven't made it. Thank you for the specific model and details on which one to look at but even still I can't find that one. This is what has limited mcdodo products from getting onto the channel. I can see only two (that is a red flag in itself) on eBay one is $120 USD, too many dollars. The other is a CH-290, although they look 'the same' but yeah, this is why I also don't use these sites often, the item you get versus the description and functionality don't align. It is on the list and I will keep looking!
@@AllThingsOnePlace You're welcome and thanks for your response and consideration.
The SKU for 291 is CH-2911. I haven't seen the 290 (CH-290) because only CH-2011 is available and prevalent in my area. The EU plug version of CH-2911 goes for 36.29USD on the wholesale page of Mcdodo. I also found the CH-2911 on the retail page of Mcdodo, but it's in Indian currency if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, it's rather hard to trust 3rd-party vendors when it comes to Chinese brand products, unless they've got good reviews.
I don't know if TH-cam allows for the links to be commented, however I try leaving the mentioned links below this reply.
Thanks again, man.
I found his Rocoren 140w recommendation on eBay and ordered one, but it hasn’t arrived yet. So we’ll see if it actually gets here.
Great video!
I was wondering if there is a recommendation to having a charger with 6 to 8 USB-C ports.
The purpose is to charge iPhones, watches, tablets... its not required to charge a laptop.
Yeah, there are a few sketchy adapters out there with lots of ports. I haven't found a good one yet.
Which one is perfect for iphone 16 and hp elitebook x360 1040 g2 ..bu the way i have anker usb-c4
The iPhone likes to charge around 20 watts, so any charger in that range is good, it can go a little faster. The laptop is an unknown, you need to check if the laptop supports USB PD. Depending on the power requirement for that device a 100 - 165 watt adapter will be able to do the phone, laptop, and probably one more small device relatively efficiently and effectively.
@AllThingsOnePlace thenks brother u can advice me for usb-c 4 anker cable or its a waste of money
Well you answered my question about why my dell laptop will not charge via the USB C port using my Anker 140w charger. I need one of those barrel plugs for USB C to the Dell barrel
haha yep. I have several of them for my various old laptops.
Probably one of the best channels comparing USB adapters. I used to think that they were all the same if they have the same power rating and specs.
Can you do a review comparing gan3 vs gan5 adapters? Especially the baseus ones? I've been looking for detailed gan5 reviews
Yeah, it's really difficult to get hands on with some GaN5 stuff. I did the slim power adapter video where I do look at a GaN5 from Baseus. It's a well built adapter, but it isn't a good adapter performance wise. So, from that one time look, it looks like GaN5 is just number go up. They didn't change anything, or made it slightly cheaper and worse.
Great review. I have iPhone 15 pro max and i am wondering which charger is better Anker Nano 313 GaN or Anker 713 Nano GaN II?
Answered on the other thread.
Did you do test on electrical leakage through usb cable and adapter,if you done this on video which part did you explain this(link)?
I do limited tests on that, I don't really have a video explaining it.
What's the USBC-Barell adapter cable, you're using? I couldn't find a proper braided one yet. But that one looks nice.
I can't find that that one anymore. I am still using the one in the video and it has actually held up well but the product category seems to disappear fast. A lot of people have asked about it and I can't seem to find a reputable brand that keeps the product around for more than a month.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThat's sad. Thanks tough and please, keep us posted if you happen to find one again :D
Do you just get a 2 pin EU power cord for travel with the 165w desktop?
You can do that.
Hi super video ....im travelling ,i just brought the zmi power bank on your recommendations , whats a good charger to go with this for travel ...at the moment i have an anker 65:watt charger only 1 type c port and 2 type A ports....is there anthing you can recommend ?,please maybe with extra type c ports with good power watts... Thanks
I mean if the 65W charger is working I would say keep it until it either breaks or doesn't do the job anymore. If you need a few more watts the Baseus 100W desktop GaN3 is pretty good for a cabled adapter, and the Anker 100W prime isn't bad if you want a more portable option.
Brilliant reviews!! Are you aware of any anker or ugreen chargers that could help me here for this scenario?
I have a hard drive dock plugged in PORT 1 (which need consistant power as its a hard drive), If i plug in something to PORT 2, it re-distributes the power which in turn cuts the power to PORT 1 (for a second), or if i have a device already plugged in and i turn it on, it does the same. I wouldnt mind a charger in which the cables are all taken up, but soon as i switch it one.. dont want it to affect PORT 1. Any advice appreciated.
Yeah, it’s a typical problem. For something mission critical it is safest to have a dedicated adapter for it. Then let the other usb things fight for operation but side line I want to make a thing that just holds the port up for long enough so it can renegotiate without dropping voltage. Some of the big adapters will keep port one on no matter what, like the anker 240w adapter. But to use that port for a hard drive only is a bit of a waste.
I found this video incredibly helpful in understanding the different charger options available.
As I am considering purchasing a new charger for my iPhone 15 Pro Max, I wanted to reach out to you for some guidance. Could you please advise me on which charger from your recommendations would be the best choice for maintaining the battery health of the iPhone 15 Pro Max?
I value your expertise and would greatly appreciate your insights on this matter. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Looking forward to your response.
I charge my iPhone as fast as I can, ha. I know some people still have the fear of fast charging. It is true of extreme speed charging that it will hurt battery health, but the fact is all charging and discharging hurts battery health, it is the extreme ends of things that make that happen faster. Pushing 100 watts into a phone battery is a bad idea. Charging in direct sunlight or freezing cold... Modern phones (from big brands Samsung, Google, iPhone) manage the charge much more carefully to try to make sure the devices don't overheat, damage the cells, or damage anything else while charging so I'm in the fast charge boat. The battery is going to go bad in 4 or 5 years, yeah, maybe it will last 6 years if you charge it in ideal conditions for the entire life of the device. Likely at that point the device will be ready for replacement just due to wear and tear of daily use anyway. If the EU gets it's way the batteries will have to be replaceable, easily, anyway. So, fully opinion based response... The only thing we know is batteries degrade in time and with all charges and discharges.
i have had the worst luck with ugreen. I bought the 300w adapter. then little over a year later 2 of the ports randomly stopped working. Thankfully they let me return it as faulty for full refund so i bought another one. Second one, 4mths later - same thing. Same exact port in fact (port 2 goes first, then port 4). I would love to get your thoughts on longevity of these devices.
Yeah, mine all work of course but yeah I've heard a lot of the 300W ones self destruct unfortunately. They certainly won't be in this years round up, but actually there won't be any at 300 watt range adapters. The 240W anker is likely taking the spot for best high wattage adapter. They still break too...
This was a great review, very clear and concise.
Thanks!
Great timing, I started looking today. :)
Yeah, loosely planned.
Amazing in depth content. Thank you! I'm looking for 60-70W PPS charger recommendation. Single output is fine. Is the charger database available on your website? I only see the cable and car charger info on there.
The other website has the chargers. The ranking and basic charger information is all available for free. Yes it has a paywall for the advanced data. I will be looking at the 70W apple charger soon. The Anker 67W was not very interesting. The Amazon Basics 65W is still my go to for that power level, but it is limited in modes of operation, no PPS modes if you need that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace uGreen pro "nexode air", 30w and 65w Aren't they interesting?
Hi, this is informative!! Can you tell what brand/model usbc to barrel cable are you using
Unfortunately, it's a game of whack a mole. All the ones I bought are not available anymore and they continuously shift in and out of availability and brand names...
Thanks
Great job with this channel.
Thanks!
May you please clarify is there any downside to using GaN charges instead of included power supply with laptop? I mean in terms of voltage stabilization or bad voltage handling etc. ❤
Any such downsides have everything to do with the quality of the adapter and nothing to do with GaN.
GAN is simply smaller chips that produce less heat in the charger itself, so there's no benefit if your laptop couldn't charge even faster than the original one.
Adding a little the included power supply may be better in cases because it is thermally designed to be compatible with the laptops power demand but yeah still independent of the MOSFET technology used.
Aside from the google pixel charger, any other good recommendations for a 30W charger, or a 2 usb C charger 40-45W? We got iPhone 15s.
Yeah, the new UGREEN Nexode 30W is actually not bad. It's cheap, even in that video, I kind of hint at that, but the performance of that charger is very good. th-cam.com/video/ENmke0ltNdg/w-d-xo.html
Can you do a video showing the power cost savings of a variety of chargers? For instance, how much money would you save if you charged 3000mah for a phone every day for a year assuming $0.18/kwh using a 30w Pixel charger vs a 65w Ugreen charger vs that Baseus 100w charger?
Edit: Or savings charging a laptop.
Yeah, electricity is cheap! I could show energy savings but the cost savings, especially when you analyze one device at a time is negligible.
I’d recommend the Rocoren 100W over the Baseus, much the same performance but removable cable.
First of all for those of us not in the US, the Baseus is a non starter. But even for people in the US the ability to change the cable is handy for a few reasons:
1) Travelling abroad, just get the cable for your destination, costs just a few bucks.
2) Cat damages the cable, easy to replace.
3) can get different cable lengths, 3 meters for extra reach, yep or perhaps a very short 50cm cable to go on a desk and reduce cable clutter.
Chargers with removable cables just offer much greater flexibility IMO.
Baseus also has a 100W model without any cable that plugs directly into the wall. They call it "GaN5 Pro Fast Charger" and it seems to be the most compact solution of all three.
I carry it around with a long 100W nylon cable for my laptops and it works really well.
I hope to see a rewiew of it on this channel at some point. If they had to make compromises for the portability, I would love to know.
Edit: I just saw they reviewed it here: th-cam.com/video/eZjLvHkiCh8/w-d-xo.html
@@tmfmxo the most compact arent always the best.
Excluding the fact they would die faster(in theory ) due to thermals
Still waiting for baseus to put 120w ver up fs not sure whats holding them back looks like gan 5 pro 65w
@@amirulizzat2114 "most compact" is relative, it's significantly bigger than my 65W PD charger.
It doesn't get excessively hot, and either way it would have been mentioned in the video I linked.
The biggest benefit to me is that you lose the cable to mains entirely.
Thanks for the discussion around these different options. I do still need to get more 'GaN5' charges in. But yeah, thermals certainly need to be considered, less efficient and very compact adapters over heat faster and lead to shorter lifespans. It is fairly often a capacitor that fails and renders the whole adapter useless after only a short time of operating too hot.
How about our beloved 100w baseus 4 port(gan2)? still worth it?
Whoa, AllThingsOnePlace, are you a fellow Canadian? 🤠 (noticed the Government of Canada pages @ 3:58)
No, NY, but it was a source that had some stats. They have decent listings of power adapters on the Canadian Government pages though.
Is it safe to charge an iphone in a ugreen 65 watt charger brick? Cuz im thinking that the hight wattage would affect the battery health of my phone
The phone decides how much power to use. So, yes, a 65W brick is fine to use with an iPhone. It will charge at it's maximum speed.
Strange, we use similar HP laptops at work and we all use different cables and usb chargers (>45w) and they work fine. Surprised to hear about a proprietary charging protocol.
Yeah, this is an AMD laptop so maybe something to do with it? But a good number do not work with this laptop. Dell and HP adapters all connect no problem. The user manual for this laptop also just states use an official HP adapter, no other information, but that's also common these days.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hum. we are all on intel chips, that could be it.
Very interesting video!
I'm still thinking wich one should I buy, as I'd like to be able to charge both a 65w phone and 65w laptop, with a power adapter as well as a powerbank.
My main concern is loosing charging performance because of the temps, I dont mind much them being high, but if they make the charging speed slower it becomes a problem😅
Any idea? I was thinking of the ZMI Powerpack no.20 and the Ugreen nexode pro 160w, but idk if thats a good choice, I'd like to have a 100w (or higher) port too in case I bought a higher wattage phone, wich I doubt, but just in case
Yeah, multiport devices are tough. Also, a 65W phone charge is difficult since the protocol is likely not going to be compatible with the bulk of chargers, the ZMi might work though as the portable battery component. But yeah, I use a 165W adapter as a daily driver and it probably maxes out at 75 watts in my daily use.
hey, where did you find the usb-c to HP proprietary connector cable ?
The jungle site. Search for USB C to blue tip This is one I am using now: Affiliate link (free money for me if you use it, no extra cost to you): amzn.to/3WhdgUH Non affiliate link (some people don't like the idea of affiliate links, they're tracking me with their chips): www.amazon.com/Charging-Converter-Extension-Pavilion-Chromebook/dp/B091BSYYYX
I bought the Baseus 100W based on your review. Sometimes I can see the USB-C charging switches off/on constantly for a few seconds until I unplug the charger from the electricity. After plugging it back in, it starts to charge correctly. (USB-C power bank or USB-C HP laptop). It happened also when it is the only device to charge. Do I have some faulty device?
It doesn't sound like there is anything wrong, there are some issues with negotiation sometimes on USB C and some devices, HP laptops can be one of them. Baseus supposedly has made this better in later GaN versions of the adapters but I have yet to test that.
I HV apple 15 pro max, I prefer to charge it with old USB 5 watt charger because of less heating,Can you suggest one MFI certified USB a to usb c cable or one 5 watt adapter with USB C output
It is okay to use a lower wattage charger. I'd check the allthings website for the lowest resistance usb cable but really at the low currents almost anything is good. I don't have a specific recommendation though.
There's a new 240W Anker desktop adapter worth checking out I think.
Yeah, I have it here. Working on it.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Great! I picked it up on sale for $110 the other day. Hope it performs well!
That's 240W total, the max on 1 USB-C port is 140W.
Hi, I'm new here. Would you please recommend a charger for charging an iPhone and iPad at the same time with 1 USB-A and 1 USB-C port? Thanks!
Hmm. USB a and c. Probably the IKEA 45w, but that is two c. I’d just look for chargers around that wattage and pick one with the ports you need.
Do the usb c cables also have to support pps?
Hi ! I'm looking forward for power bank buying guide I want to know which power bank is the best. Thank you
It should be out now!
Are there really no viable 65W-ish 3-port chargers? I wanted something lightweight for travel to power a laptop, or a fer smaller devices overnight.
The 100W Anker A2343's weight and form factor would make it easily fall out of worn plane sockets, and the Baseus 100W GaN3 desktop charger doesn't have a detachable cable which makes it bulkier and heavier to pack.
Yeah, I end up wrapping the cable around the seat to get the anker to stay in plane sockets, but weight wise, most 65's are in the same range. True on the Baseus I don't travel with that most of the time. The minix or invzi or one of the 100's of clones seem fine for plane travel and general travel needs, they do work for USB charging needs. It's hard to pick a winner for 65W they really all perform the same.
Gotcha, thanks for the reply. Are there no good GaN charging ICs in that wattage range to build a good charger around? Or is the volume in that category too low for companies to care to compete?
Do you still recommend the Hyphen-X RH-PD100W ? Or does the Anker 2343 Beat it now ?
Is your PQS score how we should be interpreting all your data, as best to worst ?
The hyphen-X is still a decent charger, it does have high idle power usage compared with some of the newer offerings. But as a charger it is still fine. I still use mine once in a while. So, PQS is really a piece of the pie. It's really trying to show how devices consume AC power, higher is better, meaning the data at the socket (the way things are often measured) is more representative of the actual product performance. As PQS decreases, the device will actually consume additional power that isn't measured, on an individual device level this is small, on a household level, say 20 or 30 of these things scattered around it can be more like 10 - 15% of your electricity bill or worse if poor PQS choices are made. The aggregate is where it matters but I fail miserably at describing this.
@@AllThingsOnePlace
Well I will say this.
You expertise is on full display when you talk about these things.
And I am positive we all can tell you are passionate about this.
Since a lot of times we look towards a Subject Matter Expert (which you appear to be) your value is in your recommendations/opinion.
In my opinion, you should end all your videos with a clear and concise recommendation & ranking.
( a ranking system we can all easily access, would be GOLDEN. not just your website, which makes it hard to understand which charger is best and for what reasons)
You just did your best of 2023 list. But what happens next month if your favorite changes? Do we have to wait until the end of 2024 to find out?
Keep a updated list with rankings, that makes it easy for someone to find the best chargers. Even if you are hesitant to give a recommendation or opinion. You've reviewed, what? hundreds of chargers? You are officially the go to source on phone chargers. Embrace it, and give your opinion.
Hopefully this makes sense to, and Im not just rambling....
Which charger should I use for my S23 Ultra and 65w HP laptop? PPS seems tricky to find
The Anker 100W Prime probably fits that bill. Although the HP laptop can actually be trickier than the Samsung.
Sir, I have a 65W UGREEN GaN charger as a replacement for my original 33W phone charger. I expected to achieve faster charging speeds due to its higher wattage, but unfortunately, that was not the case. The UGREEN 65W charger charges quickly at the beginning but slows down as the battery approaches full capacity, especially from 90% onwards. Why does this happen?
This is because of how lithium ion batteries charge. The top end of the charge curve is during a constant voltage charging mode and the current falls during this period so the wattage decreases. This is standard across all lithium ion charging. The device decides how many 'watts' to consumer as well so the larger power adapter, if oversized, may not increase charging speed at all.
Do you have recommendations for chargers that do *not* renegotiate when a second device is connected or disconnected? (I saw that you do check this in your reviews, but I cannot watch them all and try to find the exact spot where this is tested in each video... :))
Yeah, there is so much, I struggle to keep track of it. They basically all do it at some point. So, a 200 watt adapter, won't with two devices plugged in but a third device will cause a cascade of renegotiation. There are some real cheap adapters out there that deliver 20 or 30 watts to each port, those don't renegotiate but they have other issues.
I recently bought one of those usb voltmeter/ammeters that can be plugged between the charger and the usb cable to display the current and voltage. I was wondering how i would be able to verify whether a certain power source supports PD PPS? What would be the expected output values? I've gone around and tested all my existing chargers and most of them only reach about 9V 1.6A so only about 15W with my samsung s21, which is supposed to support pd pps to 25w. even though some of them do display the "super fast charging" animation when plugged in, it doesnt seem to be reaching 25w?
There is a charging power limit in settings for Samsung devices. That could be one reason but it may also be true that the devices don't have PPS. 9V sounds correct though but it may be the current limit of each charger that is being hit instead. I use the PD trigger board which provides a different color LED to indicate the different modes of operation.
Why my huawei p30 pro still charge at max 40w on this anker 100w on type a port if the type a port only output at max 22.5w.
There may be a few reasons for that... if the p30 is indicating the speed it just isn't indicating correctly, or the port has an extra mode that Anker doesn't disclose.
@@AllThingsOnePlace it indicates correctly on my meter also charge time is same with the original charger.