I was considered a weird teenager in the mid 50s as I preferred Jazz to Pop and Rock & Roll was in it's infancy. I grew up in the Canadian prairies and Jazz was foreign and no radio stations there or in North Dakota our neighbouring US state ever played it. Luckily my room was on the 3rd floor and so I could get Chicago stations late at night to satisfy my Jazz wants. The girl at my favourite record store tipped me off to latest Jazz recordings she brought in. She would let me take an LP some still in 10in format, into one if the 5 playing booths and keep them coming. When I first heard JJ and Kai and this number I had to come up with the grand sum of $4.20 to buy it and I did. I tried to play my snare drum along but man it was fast. I still had that LP until 2 years ago. Pure Genius and fab blending. It is most unlikely that any duo can replicate JJ and Kai.
What beautiful music these cats make together. I saw JJ at an ITA summer workshop in Nashville in the mid-1980s. A real gentleman. Christian Lindberg was also there. JJ said about Lindberg: "I'm sure glad that guy doesn't play bebop!"
I had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with J.J. Johnson at his home in Indianapolis back in the early '90s. Wonderful man -- charming, highly opinionated, sharply peceptive about matters both musical and otherwise. He seemed like a content, centered, wise, and deeply thoughtful man. (What a kick it was when he answered his phone, and Benny Carter was on the line!) When he committed suicide a few years later, I was shocked. RIP to a gentleman and a genius.
Cole Porter was the complete composer. His music is current today! Knew Kai in Los Angeles in the seventies and used to go to Richie Kamuca's house in the Hollywood Hills regularly. Great parties with his wife Dorie.
TG to the people who saved these videos, so that history is saved. J.J. is sorely missed and it is so great that these are being put up by fans. Thank you, whoever you are!
And they were so fuckin' YOUNG! (Me too!) Thanks heaven for "little girl" and Internet. We still have an access to those treasures and me coming from Czechoslovakia, it will take me rest of my life to play, listen and catch up with everything I've missed. THANK YOU!
Not often 2 trombonists can be found to agree about anything! These two have such a rapport it's not easy to tell where one leaves off and the other begins.
Fabulous. Thanks Ezshwan for sending the link! Really enjoyed your piece on your life with Kai and of course, admire your many drawing and paintings. Bravo!
I had this on a 12" vinyl which I bought in 1955 as 'K+ JJ' I now also have it on a CD called 'Nuf Said' - identical + a few more tracks. - Avenue Jazz - Bethlehem Archives - R2 75995
I’m so sorry you gave up the trombone The only instrument conceived by God himself I never set the world on fire but I was a professional trombonist for 61 years We should never give up our dreams kindest regards TonyG
JJ is playing a King M21, which was the stock mouthpiece for the 3B and 2Bs for a while. It's about the same size as a Bach 7. I don't know what Kai is playing. Both were King endorsers for a long time. Toword the end of his life, JJ endorsed Yamaha trombones.
These guys are wonderful, and I don't think they would mind me posting this link because it features a lesser known friend and peer of theirs, Frank Rehak: soundcloud.com/dougrobinson/its-alright-with-me-performed-by-frank-rehak-and-doug-robinson In 1979, my mentor and friend Frank Rehak handed me charts to JJ Johnson's wonderful arrangement of this classic song. Frank was a peer of JJ and Kai Winding and all the other great trombonists of the '50s and '60s. JJ had arranged the tune for several trombones and rhythm section. I was 24 and hadn't touched the drums for a few years, but I sat down at a steam driven Tapesonic Sound on Sound tape recorder and laid the drum part down to the best of my ability. I then played the fretless bass part and finally the piano part. Frank then laid down 6 trombone parts, one more brilliant than the next. It was a tribute to his pals, I believe...drug addiction had kept him from staying at the top of the game but now that he had been clean for over a decade, I'm sure he wanted to get the word out that he was still playing well. Frank Rehak passed away in 1986, but left me with a mountain of old recordings which I transferred to digital in order to create a website: frankrehak.com. You'll hear him playing with Kai and JJ, Urbie Green, Bill Watrous and Frank Rosolino as well as Cannonball Adderly, Miles Davis, Coltrane and every big band leader you can think of. Check it out!
most of them go along with the classic statement: " I play whatever's in my case or closest to my hand" the story is that Urbie took every mpce known into a boat and threw them overboard one at a time and played the last one left. the point being: play whatever YOU are comfortable with, not what anyone else plays.
JoeyKuel Part of the tone difference is they're using different size instruments. I used to have a similar larger belled trombone like JJ is using, as well as a smaller more standard like Kai is playing. There is a notable difference in tone. I always liked the larger instrument better, but it was significantly more difficult to play in the upper registers. The broader, more mellow tone that melted panties was worth it though. But I must admit in this instance Kai's solo was more nuanced. Other times JJ is better. It balances.
idk, i guess its personal preference. But i know that i personally sound ten times better on a small bore trombone for jazz playing rather than a large bore for classical playing, it might just be the different mouthpiece and trombone sizes but i find it troubling considering i want to be a classical player and i would most likely be using a large bore for that
+JoeyKuel I am currently using an Accent trombone with a .525 bore and 6 1/2AL mouth piece and I love it compared to one I used when I was in highschool which was a .500 bore and from a brand I forgot. It was great because it sounded very bright ( both horns having f attachments) but for classical playing....it just....wasn't there. it was too bright. My new horn that I own however ( the Accent trombone I mentioned before) sounds WONDERFUL in its very rich tone but not too dark or bright....it's just perfect. When I play some marches it sounds awesome and with jazz....ugh..just perfectly sweet.
Jay was endorsing Yamaha around the late '80s. When I saw him in '88, he was playing a Yamaha. They are definitely playing Kings in this vid. It looks like JJ has a 3B and Kai, a 2B. Earl Williams and Larry Minick horns also had curved braces...not in the same spot of course! Also, I meant "toward!"
Hugely influential sound, two bones flying - check Eddie Palmieri's band of the 60s with Barry Rogers, you can hear Kai & JJ's influence. I love those harmonies, and JJ's solo, that clear tone! - just when you think it would be impossible to reply to that Kai manages to pull something out of the hat, a little interlude with Tomy, then they wrap it up - beautiful.
The trombone section (they were three, not two when dollars were payed) came from Elio Reve's charangon de Cuba. 1950. No direct relation with JJ and Kai. However, indidualy, this two masters have influenced many bones's cats all around the gmobe. But the concept in latin music comes from Cuba. Manny Oquendo was the first timbalero and co founder of the Perfecta with Eddie Palmieri. Their 1st LPs were with 3 bones and flute. Then they splitted. Palmieri choosed to integrate all kind of wind but at first Alfredo Chocolate Armenteros. Genius of cuban trumpet. Manny Oquendo stayed with the bones concept. You can even deduct the concept was his. Amd Andy Gonzalez, John Dandy Rodriguez and George Delgado confirmed me my hypothesis. Have a nice salsa listening forever
@@emmanuelmassarotti5535 Thank you.. that's probably the most eloquent reply I've ever received on this platform.. led me to watching Manny Oquendo again.. there's not much footage.. but very enjoyable..
![[TH] 2024 PMSL SEA W2D5 | Fall | พลาดวันนี้ จะต้องเสียใจ](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/A5-Cuo12p6A/mqdefault.jpg)
I saw them do this in 1955!!!!! Cute young guys. I was cute and young too, now that I think of it.
You're right. I was there when this was filmed. Mrs. Kai Winding
I was considered a weird teenager in the mid 50s as I preferred Jazz to Pop and Rock & Roll was in it's infancy. I grew up in the
Canadian prairies and Jazz was foreign and no radio stations there or in North Dakota our neighbouring US
state ever played it. Luckily my room was on the 3rd floor and so I could get Chicago stations late at night to satisfy my Jazz wants. The girl at my favourite record store tipped me off to latest Jazz recordings she brought in. She would let me take an LP some still in 10in format, into one if the 5 playing booths and keep them coming. When I first heard JJ and Kai and this number I had to come up with the
grand sum of $4.20 to buy it and I did. I tried to play my snare drum along but man it was fast. I still had that LP until 2 years ago. Pure Genius and fab blending.
It is most unlikely that any duo can replicate JJ and Kai.
What beautiful music these cats make together. I saw JJ at an ITA summer workshop in Nashville in the mid-1980s. A real gentleman. Christian Lindberg was also there. JJ said about Lindberg: "I'm sure glad that guy doesn't play bebop!"
Two of the best trombonists.
I had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with J.J. Johnson at his home in Indianapolis back in the early '90s. Wonderful man -- charming, highly opinionated, sharply peceptive about matters both musical and otherwise. He seemed like a content, centered, wise, and deeply thoughtful man.
(What a kick it was when he answered his phone, and Benny Carter was on the line!)
When he committed suicide a few years later, I was shocked. RIP to a gentleman and a genius.
JJ and Kai plays trombone with nice sound and excellent style
Their tones just blend so well. It's astounding. Legends.
Great Music, amazing control.
rest in peace, you two lovely people
This is the last time I saw Kai performing. 5 months later he died of a brain tumor.
He was a great musicians
I think he is underrated among the young trombonists. He had a great musical sense
Oh thanks for that really cheered me up
So sweet to hear trombone playing taken to its highest level...
How nice to hear Kai and JJ! Two of the greatest of all time.
Two giants of the jazz trombone
Wow their improvisation styles are so similar...no wonder why they were such good friends o.O
My first recording was of J.J. Johnson. Then I was "hooked" on that Trombone sound!
Their intonation is incredible. They are so together. What a dream.
JJ and Kai still great to hear them.
These jazz duets inspired so many younger trombonists. They were the Masters!
How can this not make you feel happy????
Cole Porter was the complete composer. His music is current today! Knew Kai in Los Angeles in the seventies and used to go to Richie Kamuca's house in the Hollywood Hills regularly. Great parties with his wife Dorie.
He did not have a wife named Dorie. Perhaps you meant Jeannie
Beautiful. Thanks for posting this. My mother had the album "Dave Brubeck and Jay and Kai at Newport" recorded in 1956.
I wish there were more performances like this, with two great trombonists and a rhythm section
Amazing players. We can only dream of being as good as them
TG to the people who saved these videos, so that history is saved. J.J. is sorely missed and it is so great that these are being put up by fans. Thank you, whoever you are!
And they were so fuckin' YOUNG! (Me too!)
Thanks heaven for "little girl" and Internet. We still have an access to those treasures
and me coming from Czechoslovakia, it will take me rest of my life to play, listen and catch up with everything I've missed. THANK YOU!
Not often 2 trombonists can be found to agree about anything! These two have such a rapport it's not easy to tell where one leaves off and the other begins.
Incredible performance!!!
Fabulous. Thanks Ezshwan for sending the link! Really enjoyed your piece on your life with Kai and of course, admire your many drawing and paintings. Bravo!
I had this on a 12" vinyl which I bought in 1955 as 'K+ JJ'
I now also have it on a CD called 'Nuf Said' - identical + a few more tracks. - Avenue Jazz - Bethlehem Archives - R2 75995
Lovely ✊🏽
THIS IS IT RIGHT HERE!DOES GET ANY BETTER!
何度聞いてもいいです。しびれる～。
Great duets!
They were really spittin frfr
Best stage lighting ever!
What a beautiful sound wow
Wow these dudes really swing hard!!
nice to hear it is a pleasure thanks
My heroes when I was a teenager!
I made a comment to someone about a year ago that I'd not find myself ever saying "I think I'll get me some trombone music" but I certainly would now.
+JAZZ MAN Check out some Harold Betters...Beautiful unique sound...
+sea6bear
Thanks, will do. Never heard of him.
TH-cam search Jack Teagarden~ For a very unique Trombone experience!
I noticed JJ keeps the slide close to the top using the armature more the slide kind of like the master of T-bone Jack Teagarden..
absolutely Wonderful Thank You.
very amazing !
I think that the bass player is Richard Davis and the drummer is Roy Haynes.
masters of the craft!
I think I Trombone for two was their best album.
bless for all the uploads of the tune ...so nice to hear so many version with so talented ppl....!!!
Legendary Duo. Truly inspiring.
Grande J J Johnson
It really moves -and was great listen and another one for the real music lovers !
Kai Winding kicks butt !!
I love this viedo so much
I noticed that Kai put in a little phrase from "My Heart Belongs to Daddy".
Beautiful!
kai went ham
great team always fit
of the longer harmonies in
jazz family sagas
So hip. Jazz truth in all its glory.
just what my day needed , Excellent upload ..
very very very very cool!!!
Wow, these guys are amazing. And I'm digging the Drummer's pink cowboy hat. lol
Kai's takeover statement at 2.20 is just fabulous. Nothing grey about this black and white mix, Tommy Flanagan no also-ran either.
This burns.
Marvelous -
Perfection in the simplest form
These guys are beasts!
FINALLY something 4 the trombone section to appreciate.
Amazing
This album was my intro, at 17, to what was possible on trombone after I had been playing for three years. I gave up and sold my trombone.
I’m so sorry you gave up the trombone
The only instrument conceived by God himself
I never set the world on fire but I was a professional trombonist for 61 years
We should never give up our dreams kindest regards TonyG
Quebra tudo !!! Isso é bom demais !
While I'm feasting on the Bones...2 more come my way. Yum!
man can these guys blow
Trombone all the way!
legends
i like the drummer's hat.
kai!!!!
solo is sick!
JJ is playing a King M21, which was the stock mouthpiece for the 3B and 2Bs for a while. It's about the same size as a Bach 7. I don't know what Kai is playing. Both were King endorsers for a long time. Toword the end of his life, JJ endorsed Yamaha trombones.
Great .
These guys are wonderful, and I don't think they would mind me posting this link because it features a lesser known friend and peer of theirs, Frank Rehak: soundcloud.com/dougrobinson/its-alright-with-me-performed-by-frank-rehak-and-doug-robinson
In 1979, my mentor and friend Frank Rehak handed me charts to JJ Johnson's wonderful arrangement of this classic song. Frank was a peer of JJ and Kai Winding and all the other great trombonists of the '50s and '60s. JJ had arranged the tune for several trombones and rhythm section.
I was 24 and hadn't touched the drums for a few years, but I sat down at a steam driven Tapesonic Sound on Sound tape recorder and laid the drum part down to the best of my ability. I then played the fretless bass part and finally the piano part. Frank then laid down 6 trombone parts, one more brilliant than the next. It was a tribute to his pals, I believe...drug addiction had kept him from staying at the top of the game but now that he had been clean for over a decade, I'm sure he wanted to get the word out that he was still playing well.
Frank Rehak passed away in 1986, but left me with a mountain of old recordings which I transferred to digital in order to create a website: frankrehak.com. You'll hear him playing with Kai and JJ, Urbie Green, Bill Watrous and Frank Rosolino as well as Cannonball Adderly, Miles Davis, Coltrane and every big band leader you can think of. Check it out!
Tommy Flanagan swings!
most of them go along with the classic statement: " I play whatever's in my case or closest to my hand"
the story is that Urbie took every mpce known into a boat and threw them overboard one at a time and played the last one left.
the point being: play whatever YOU are comfortable with, not what anyone else plays.
Personally i like kai's improv style better but johnson's tone better
JoeyKuel Part of the tone difference is they're using different size instruments. I used to have a similar larger belled trombone like JJ is using, as well as a smaller more standard like Kai is playing. There is a notable difference in tone. I always liked the larger instrument better, but it was significantly more difficult to play in the upper registers. The broader, more mellow tone that melted panties was worth it though.
But I must admit in this instance Kai's solo was more nuanced. Other times JJ is better. It balances.
Exactly. They're very complimentary.
idk, i guess its personal preference. But i know that i personally sound ten times better on a small bore trombone for jazz playing rather than a large bore for classical playing, it might just be the different mouthpiece and trombone sizes but i find it troubling considering i want to be a classical player and i would most likely be using a large bore for that
+JoeyKuel I agree
+JoeyKuel I am currently using an Accent trombone with a .525 bore and 6 1/2AL mouth piece and I love it compared to one I used when I was in highschool which was a .500 bore and from a brand I forgot. It was great because it sounded very bright ( both horns having f attachments) but for classical playing....it just....wasn't there. it was too bright. My new horn that I own however ( the Accent trombone I mentioned before) sounds WONDERFUL in its very rich tone but not too dark or bright....it's just perfect. When I play some marches it sounds awesome and with jazz....ugh..just perfectly sweet.
J･Jｼﾞｮﾝｿﾝとｶｲ･ｳｨﾝﾃﾞｨﾝｸﾞ～両巨頭の"IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH ME"～至宝のﾄﾛﾝﾎﾞｰﾝ～ピアノもフラナガン～何も言葉無し!GOOD! #jazzm
dream team :-)
Um, já é Bom Dois é Demais...
From HMV on line:
Winding,Kai: Jj Johnson
Nuf Said
£7.99 free uk delivery
Lindo ❤️
Practice, practice, and even more practice.
@kentheden1 - It's not a video performance but the song is available from Amazon on a CD compilation called "Octet & In Person".
I can't believe I'm typing this but Kai's solo was so killin', more killin' than JJ's!
+Zachary Granger going second does have its advantages. Kai's great right out the gate!!
Jay was endorsing Yamaha around the late '80s. When I saw him in '88, he was playing a Yamaha. They are definitely playing Kings in this vid. It looks like JJ has a 3B and Kai, a 2B. Earl Williams and Larry Minick horns also had curved braces...not in the same spot of course! Also, I meant "toward!"
いつもアドリブの参考にさせて頂いています。
テｰマ演奏が良いね❗
Dinner for one please? please! please!
Just like peas and carrots . They just belong together .
Isnt this track also to be found on "The Trombone Sound"
with J & K plus Wayne Andre & Carl Fontana ? Thats worth
a listen !
J&K..........'nuf said!
interesting choice for a profile pic. He (Frank), Urbie and JJ are my tops!
Hugely influential sound, two bones flying - check Eddie Palmieri's band of the 60s with Barry Rogers, you can hear Kai & JJ's influence.
I love those harmonies, and JJ's solo, that clear tone! - just when you think it would be impossible to reply to that Kai manages to pull something out of the hat, a little interlude with Tomy, then they wrap it up - beautiful.
The trombone section (they were three, not two when dollars were payed) came from Elio Reve's charangon de Cuba. 1950. No direct relation with JJ and Kai. However, indidualy, this two masters have influenced many bones's cats all around the gmobe. But the concept in latin music comes from Cuba. Manny Oquendo was the first timbalero and co founder of the Perfecta with Eddie Palmieri. Their 1st LPs were with 3 bones and flute. Then they splitted. Palmieri choosed to integrate all kind of wind but at first Alfredo Chocolate Armenteros. Genius of cuban trumpet. Manny Oquendo stayed with the bones concept. You can even deduct the concept was his. Amd Andy Gonzalez, John Dandy Rodriguez and George Delgado confirmed me my hypothesis.
Have a nice salsa listening forever
@@emmanuelmassarotti5535 Gracias! Thank you that is very educative and informative.. I've beeen schooled... God bless you with love and riches
@@emmanuelmassarotti5535 Thank you.. that's probably the most eloquent reply I've ever received on this platform.. led me to watching Manny Oquendo again.. there's not much footage.. but very enjoyable..
they should have filmed for more drums!!!
who are the 3 idiots who clicked dislike? masters at work in this- so awesome!
@millertime71984 Alessi Publications sells a transcription of their most famous cd.... "the great kai and jj"