Super video as ever. I shoot with an R3 & R5 MkII. For longer shots I have my trusty EF600 MkII with RF converter. Since picking up my 200-800, the 600 has not been out of its bag. That may change for lower light wildlife (otter) shots in Scotland this Winter, but for now I’m loving the 200-800 and have no issues with f9 @800mm. DxO PureRaw 4 cleans up higher ISO files nicely.
I fully agree with your thoughts, I made the change from the sigma 150/600 on r5 to the rf 200/800 and it's formidable, unfortunately the 150\600 mixed up the colors and definition too much, even if it was f6.3 I always shot at f8 - f9 for greater sharpness, but at 600mm the shadows tended to blend in both colors and details, I'm tempted to add the r7 to my kit to have 2 camera bodies...the video you made and your considerations are equal to mine
@@dariobarrasso1157 yeah I’ve made a few videos on this lens, and everyone has a slightly different story of issues they have. It does the job for the great price though.
Crop sensor all the way and I have both. Generally when I am with a crop sensor and I have mates with me with full frame cameras I will start shooting way before they do and I will get more than they do. The mentality of putting money in expensive equipment in order to shoot birds may be very illusive and can turn very disappointing to those who do. Crop sensor cameras give you a greater reach with more misses but with more shots of difficult far subjects. They may even give you more detail which allows you to crop in the case of the R7. R8 with its 24MP sensor is not actually good for birding especially small birds where you need to crop. Cameras like the R7 give you more detail in their shots, maybe not having the refined autofocus capabilities of more expensive FF bodies but the compromise falls in favor of the R7 for birding. The 200-800mm is a fantastic lens and its availability in the market shows. It gives you a reach which is unattainable without resorting to crap things like teleconverters. With the R7 you have even more reach than the RF 1200 which is at F8 and costs around 25K. Believe me if you compare 2 shots taken by both lenses without knowing which belongs to which, you're in for a surprise. I hope you haven't sold the Sigma as that can be put on a FF DSLR like the 5DM4 and you will have a back up for those 15-20 minutes of low light at the end or start of the day. For the rest throw everything away and grab the R7 with the RF 200-800mm F6.3-F9.
@@marcuscaruana6772 good summary. Yeah I get to see the images from an expensive lens & body via others on social media, and I can confirm it’s almost no difference. I will say when someone is using something F4 on a telephoto, it’s very noticeable. The image is very pleasing to the eye as the bird is isolated. Sold the Sigma as I just like to have one lens and one camera.
@@stormcabbirds Canon are coming up with a 400-600mm zoom lens which will be F2.8 to F4. That will be a game changer but it'll cost. Right now the hype is on the RF 200-800 no matter how we go about it both for price and its performance for that.
Super video as ever. I shoot with an R3 & R5 MkII. For longer shots I have my trusty EF600 MkII with RF converter. Since picking up my 200-800, the 600 has not been out of its bag. That may change for lower light wildlife (otter) shots in Scotland this Winter, but for now I’m loving the 200-800 and have no issues with f9 @800mm. DxO PureRaw 4 cleans up higher ISO files nicely.
I fully agree with your thoughts, I made the change from the sigma 150/600 on r5 to the rf 200/800 and it's formidable, unfortunately the 150\600 mixed up the colors and definition too much, even if it was f6.3 I always shot at f8 - f9 for greater sharpness, but at 600mm the shadows tended to blend in both colors and details, I'm tempted to add the r7 to my kit to have 2 camera bodies...the video you made and your considerations are equal to mine
@@dariobarrasso1157 yeah I’ve made a few videos on this lens, and everyone has a slightly different story of issues they have. It does the job for the great price though.
Dankeschön
Crop sensor all the way and I have both. Generally when I am with a crop sensor and I have mates with me with full frame cameras I will start shooting way before they do and I will get more than they do. The mentality of putting money in expensive equipment in order to shoot birds may be very illusive and can turn very disappointing to those who do. Crop sensor cameras give you a greater reach with more misses but with more shots of difficult far subjects. They may even give you more detail which allows you to crop in the case of the R7. R8 with its 24MP sensor is not actually good for birding especially small birds where you need to crop. Cameras like the R7 give you more detail in their shots, maybe not having the refined autofocus capabilities of more expensive FF bodies but the compromise falls in favor of the R7 for birding. The 200-800mm is a fantastic lens and its availability in the market shows. It gives you a reach which is unattainable without resorting to crap things like teleconverters. With the R7 you have even more reach than the RF 1200 which is at F8 and costs around 25K. Believe me if you compare 2 shots taken by both lenses without knowing which belongs to which, you're in for a surprise. I hope you haven't sold the Sigma as that can be put on a FF DSLR like the 5DM4 and you will have a back up for those 15-20 minutes of low light at the end or start of the day. For the rest throw everything away and grab the R7 with the RF 200-800mm F6.3-F9.
@@marcuscaruana6772 good summary. Yeah I get to see the images from an expensive lens & body via others on social media, and I can confirm it’s almost no difference. I will say when someone is using something F4 on a telephoto, it’s very noticeable. The image is very pleasing to the eye as the bird is isolated. Sold the Sigma as I just like to have one lens and one camera.
@@stormcabbirds Canon are coming up with a 400-600mm zoom lens which will be F2.8 to F4. That will be a game changer but it'll cost. Right now the hype is on the RF 200-800 no matter how we go about it both for price and its performance for that.
The RF 200-800 is an excellent lens (for the price) I now use it 90% of the time, the RF 100-500 is getting lonely just doesn’t get used to it
@@RogerJones-mountfield do you find they are similar in quality?
@@stormcabbirds not much difference in quality (imo others may disagree) definitely slower in focusing but again not too much of a problem
is it just me or are all these images lacking good backgrounds and bokeh
just you
@stormcabbirds nah it's the lens, it's mediocre
@ there you go, we got there in the end