This is so in depth, just what i needed! My cleats have been in the box they came in since day one, from the knee pain i got from not knowing how to set them up correctly.
I am adding this video to my archive. I just got mtb shoes and spd pedals yesterday. I had a professional fit done and both cleats set up the same. If I start feeling discomfort in one knee this video will help tremendously. Thank you.
this guy is good! i have been doing bike fits at the shop where i work for quite some time now, and always felt out of my comfort zone when it come to cleat setup. i learned some great tips from him in this video?
Just found this vid.... Just because, I checked the fit this bloke suggests with, the fit I have dialed in over the years, by feel. Ironically, my fit and this suggested method are almost spot on. But it is very well explained and demonstrated!
Many of us road cyclists also use mountain bike style pedals and two bolt cleats. Would be good to have a film on that. After all mtb shoes are easy to walk in.
Thank you! Great advice. I recently changed my shoe and wanted to see if I set my cleats properly or not without paying a visit to the bike fitter. The video helped a lot.
I watched 5-6 videos so, not a single is as complete and detailed as this one ☝️!! Bravo for a job well done .. let’s hope I don’t fall as I learn to go in and out thingies Do you have a video for shimming uneven leg length ?
Simplest, clearest explanation I've seen on cleat fitting. Thanks for that. If someone has orthopedic soles, does that change any of the tests for cleat fitting?
Since we have float why the whole philosophy about the cleat inward and outward positioning and stuff? Just make sure it's right under your toe ball and the float will handle the rest. Or am I missing something here?
I have a unique problem, Ben.. my right knee was broken as a kid and my entire right side moves differenttly than my left side... i am 56... no physio ever. When i walk i need to place my right foot on a deliberate outward angle in order to maintain posture and not wobble Is it possible to use mixed cleats for someone like me?
speedplay has the largest degree of float in or out. Ideally you want to achieve the same or similar foot/knee alignment off and on the bike. So you want to make sure you have a pedal/cleat system that will allow for you to do this. However a cleat adjustment is only a piece of the puzzle for someone like yourself with a more complicated issue if you fix one thing you might brake something else. So getting a complete and proper bike fit would be the best idea
Toe clips for me, thank you very much. I am way too old at 64 to change after 45 years of toe clips, and I will not risk a fall with clipless pedals and cleats.
This is way too complicated. Easiest way is to mount everything so the bolts are slightly snug. Then do a few revolutions. Your shoes, clips and pedals will self-align. Carefully unclip and tighten down.
I did same thing on my stationary trainer. Tightened the hex head bolts to the point they were snug but not too snug so they would move and peddled a few revs until I got it where things felt right. However, I loosened the straps that held my feet tight in the shoes and removed my feet from the shoes while the shoes remained clipped in the pedals. Tightened the front bolt ( the two in the rear are covered by the pedal ) then removed the shoe and tightened the two in the rear. Also want to mention I adjusted the pedals to the lowest release tension while doing this as an added precaution to prevent cleats from moving while unclipping. The tightening on the front bolt was sufficient to keep the cleats from rotating while unclipping.
WHERE TO PLACE THE CLEAT: On your naked foot print a dot, in ink, right on the ball of the foot. Put our foot in the shoe and step down. The idea is to transfer the ink dot to the sole of the shoe. Drill a tiny hole through the dot. The drill hole should now reference where the pressure point of the ball of the foot lies within the shoe. Place the cleat so the 'dot' is directly over the center of the spindle.
I have back knee pain at my left leg. I suffered it band syndrome and edema. I went a pt and they fixed the issue but issue come back again nowadays. I ask them to yellow or red cleat and explain them about float. My left knee is not going straight, I can feel that but noone is listening to me and they said stay away from red cleat. I think my left leg needs right alignment when I am cycling.
Do u recommend someone here in US... I am in southern California in LA and or Orange county... I need this.. my foot left arch is hurting.. especially when I climb
Well, it should take a pretty good effort to get out but it may be that the spring tension on your pedal clips is adjusted too tight, or your cleats are adjusted in such a way as to position your heel too far out. Either one will make release more difficult. If you back off the spring tension on your pedals, don't get them so loose that you inadvertently release while up out of the saddle and pedaling hard. That could result in a nasty crash, or at the very least an uncomfortable groin smash on the top bar. If it's a cleat adjustment to get the heel farther in towards the bike, make sure that's a natural position before adjusting for it. Following the advice in this video will help you decide if that's the case.
Some day someone is going to discover that cleats are not as good as the leather pedal straps. It seems like the cleats really restrict your movement to a set position that maybe is unnatural to complete body movement from hips to legs to knees to foot.
Interesting and informative video. However, more focus and attention should be given to the anomalies of the anatomical disposition in the Riders gate. She needs a proper physical assessment to uncover the weaknesses, the tightness, and the reasons, for the over pronation or supination, and also for the over eversion and inversion of her feet. Cleat adjustment only satisfies the symptom not the problem. After those physical issues are address and corrected, that entire process would have to be done again and the outcome would be completely different.
My left foot is easy going doesn’t complain about much but my right foot is constantly throbbing no matter which way I put the cleat , doing my fucking head in , great road shoes , brand new cleats and pedals ( shimano road cleats ) maybe I got to just drink some concrete and harden the fuck up a bit . 😆
best cleat fitting video I've seen. Thanks
This is so in depth, just what i needed!
My cleats have been in the box they came in since day one, from the knee pain i got from not knowing how to set them up correctly.
holy thread revival, I just found this. My cleats were way out but thanks to this they are now sorted
Best video for fitting cleats I have seen so far. Great job. Can't wait to try these techniques.
thanks Jaime Lannister!
I have watched all the videos on this - yours is the best, with key advice not shared elsewhere. Thanks!
Agreed.
J B agree !!! This video was the best one ever other then going in to get a fit...
I wish I saw this video first as there's a mark on my shoes. At least I'll always know where the ball of my foot is
I am adding this video to my archive. I just got mtb shoes and spd pedals yesterday. I had a professional fit done and both cleats set up the same. If I start feeling discomfort in one knee this video will help tremendously. Thank you.
this guy is good! i have been doing bike fits at the shop where i work for quite some time now, and always felt out of my comfort zone when it come to cleat setup. i learned some great tips from him in this video?
Best cleat fitting video on TH-cam. Well done!
Just found this vid.... Just because, I checked the fit this bloke suggests with, the fit I have dialed in over the years, by feel. Ironically, my fit and this suggested method are almost spot on. But it is very well explained and demonstrated!
Last year I brought for the first time a road bike. Ben did the fitting. A brilliant job!!!!!
This is a great video... I wish there was a bike fitting place where I live. I would love to have an expert set me up.
Excellent science that cuts through the fashion and commercialism of cycling components . I'm saving this for reference. Thanks for posting.
Great video. I’m having knee problems and it may be due to my cleats for gravel. My road bike set up is perfect.
Many of us road cyclists also use mountain bike style pedals and two bolt cleats. Would be good to have a film on that. After all mtb shoes are easy to walk in.
Thank you! Great advice.
I recently changed my shoe and wanted to see if I set my cleats properly or not without paying a visit to the bike fitter. The video helped a lot.
A lot of people are using mountain bike shoes and peddles on their road bikes. Because of the comfort when walking to and from the bike.
I watched 5-6 videos so, not a single is as complete and detailed as this one ☝️!! Bravo for a job well done .. let’s hope I don’t fall as I learn to go in and out thingies
Do you have a video for shimming uneven leg length ?
Perfect video explains everything, just got new shoes and was having trouble this should sort it out.
One of the most helpful videos i've seen! Thank you
Great vid. Currently get left side near the knee IT band ache after a ride. Trying to get to the bottom of it.
Have you tried a shorter crank?
I need that wallpaper for my house
Very good and clear communication on the why and how of cleat positioning....thank you.
Best video manual about topic! Now my knees and feet moving much smoother!
The best and most comprehensive advise. Thanks.
Thank you! This might help me with my knee problem.
Simplest, clearest explanation I've seen on cleat fitting. Thanks for that. If someone has orthopedic soles, does that change any of the tests for cleat fitting?
OK. I am so trying that. If nothing else, the fore and aft adjustment looks handy.
Thank you Jaime Lannister and Yara Greyjoy
Wish I’d had this info years ago. I’m now setting my cleats up as per video👍
Very informative,but need to watch multiple time for complete understanding
Since we have float why the whole philosophy about the cleat inward and outward positioning and stuff? Just make sure it's right under your toe ball and the float will handle the rest. Or am I missing something here?
There isn't a lot of float even on the Yellow cleats so the original position is pretty important
Did anyone else notice one obvious omission?
They talked a lot about it but didn't actually show you the fitting and adjusting the cleat!
I just thighten the bolts and voila! Done!
Amazing guide. Very comprehensive. Thank you for this.
very well explained
Really professional video thank you guys 👏
Very well explained video!! Thank you for the information.
Good explanation of the float systems.
I have a unique problem, Ben.. my right knee was broken as a kid and my entire right side moves differenttly than my left side... i am 56... no physio ever.
When i walk i need to place my right foot on a deliberate outward angle in order to maintain posture and not wobble
Is it possible to use mixed cleats for someone like me?
speedplay has the largest degree of float in or out. Ideally you want to achieve the same or similar foot/knee alignment off and on the bike. So you want to make sure you have a pedal/cleat system that will allow for you to do this. However a cleat adjustment is only a piece of the puzzle for someone like yourself with a more complicated issue if you fix one thing you might brake something else. So getting a complete and proper bike fit would be the best idea
So that's why my toes have been getting numb! Need to move bracket back.
same here.. its a really nagging thing... good thing I just found out why I've been getting numb.
Best cleating positioning or fitting video.
this is such a detailed video! thanks for the great advice!
You smashed this Moosh. Great job!
Great video guys. This guy is sharp.
fantastic. a well delivered set of instructions.
Very good
Fantastic, perfect explanation....
Video is a bit stiff but still very helpful and informative :)
This dude is awesome, very good video
Great video thanks
This was a really helpful video.
The Best... well explained....
Toe clips for me, thank you very much. I am way too old at 64 to change after 45 years of toe clips, and I will not risk a fall with clipless pedals and cleats.
Never too old. You know that.
This is way too complicated. Easiest way is to mount everything so the bolts are slightly snug. Then do a few revolutions. Your shoes, clips and pedals will self-align. Carefully unclip and tighten down.
I did same thing on my stationary trainer. Tightened the hex head bolts to the point they were snug but not too snug so they would move and peddled a few revs until I got it where things felt right. However, I loosened the straps that held my feet tight in the shoes and removed my feet from the shoes while the shoes remained clipped in the pedals. Tightened the front bolt ( the two in the rear are covered by the pedal ) then removed the shoe and tightened the two in the rear. Also want to mention I adjusted the pedals to the lowest release tension while doing this as an added precaution to prevent cleats from moving while unclipping. The tightening on the front bolt was sufficient to keep the cleats from rotating while unclipping.
WHERE TO PLACE THE CLEAT: On your naked foot print a dot, in ink, right on the ball of the foot. Put our foot in the shoe and step down. The idea is to transfer the ink dot to the sole of the shoe. Drill a tiny hole through the dot. The drill hole should now reference where the pressure point of the ball of the foot lies within the shoe. Place the cleat so the 'dot' is directly over the center of the spindle.
What a presenter (really good) !!!!
I have back knee pain at my left leg. I suffered it band syndrome and edema. I went a pt and they fixed the issue but issue come back again nowadays. I ask them to yellow or red cleat and explain them about float. My left knee is not going straight, I can feel that but noone is listening to me and they said stay away from red cleat. I think my left leg needs right alignment when I am cycling.
Kerem Tuna try moving your cleats further back, then reset your saddle fore and aft as well as its height slightly
Thanks!
How do you feel about the balance/hands free test to determine saddle fore/aft?
what did the guy said in 3:53? slight behind? or slightly what?
Thank you.
Very good one !
How do we know if the shop fitter is any good? How are they trained and tested? Any recommendation for a good fitter in Denmark?
Top video 👍
Awesome!
What is the best type of pedal for the cleats use in this video?
Good stuff.
i was looking for a proper video.. thanks. And BTW the lady in this is really beautiful in every way :D
Gaaaaaaay
Very helpful, thanks :)
I have a mtb and want to know the best cleats type to use on my cycling shoes.
good video its slightly disconnected with the title
Do u recommend someone here in US... I am in southern California in LA and or Orange county... I need this.. my foot left arch is hurting.. especially when I climb
I always have trouble breaking away from my cleats when I am stopping why would this be
Well, it should take a pretty good effort to get out but it may be that the spring tension on your pedal clips is adjusted too tight, or your cleats are adjusted in such a way as to position your heel too far out. Either one will make release more difficult. If you back off the spring tension on your pedals, don't get them so loose that you inadvertently release while up out of the saddle and pedaling hard. That could result in a nasty crash, or at the very least an uncomfortable groin smash on the top bar. If it's a cleat adjustment to get the heel farther in towards the bike, make sure that's a natural position before adjusting for it. Following the advice in this video will help you decide if that's the case.
Instructions unclear; ceiling fan
I gays, could you please tell where these bike fitter? Thank you so much
And how much would this fitting cost?
He said exasperate instead of exacerbate!
I wonder how much they charge for a fitting 🤔
Can you fit online? Thanks
Most important part sound lessened.
Some day someone is going to discover that cleats are not as good as the leather pedal straps. It seems like the cleats really restrict your movement to a set position that maybe is unnatural to complete body movement from hips to legs to knees to foot.
Like it
Interesting and informative video. However, more focus and attention should be given to the anomalies of the anatomical disposition in the Riders gate. She needs a proper physical assessment to uncover the weaknesses, the tightness, and the reasons, for the over pronation or supination, and also for the over eversion and inversion of her feet. Cleat adjustment only satisfies the symptom not the problem. After those physical issues are address and corrected, that entire process would have to be done again and the outcome would be completely different.
Cycling weekly..How much does this cost?
probably around £500 knowing cycling
My left foot is easy going doesn’t complain about much but my right foot is constantly throbbing no matter which way I put the cleat , doing my fucking head in , great road shoes , brand new cleats and pedals ( shimano road cleats ) maybe I got to just drink some concrete and harden the fuck up a bit . 😆
wouldnt it be better to go neutral and the rider went to some balance muscle therapy?
👍🏻
43 seconds in and the dull was starting to wear off on me. I couldn't watch any more!
You can always increase the video playback speed.
Low steering wheel.
Prince Harry.. is that you?
this is way too complicated I'm selling me clipless system lol
If you go to a bike fit expert, don't be surprised if the person spends the majority of time on the cleats, even installing spacers.
unintentional ASMR??
Two errors. The man says "exasperate" when he meant "exacerbate" and the lady missed out a W on the WWW. weblink at the end.
Her seat is too high.
Just out of interest. Why can you make this simple . Goodness so much bla bla . ABC would be ok here surly
She look so scared :D
Excellent video, thank you. They both seem pretty nervous and slight unnatural haha...
Blokes a proper weirdo