Oryginalny silnik forda na wtrysku pośrednim jest niewiele warty. Dlatego postanowiłem sprawdzić czy można go ulepszyć, i dlatego zbudowałem tą hybrydę.
Im glad i found you! im attempting to do this myself in my MK6 Escort van. So does TDDI Pistons and rods swap stright over to the older Endura/lynx engine, including the head with out any problems? ATM im building my own bosch VE for it using a fiesta courier bosch pump for the body, using the camplate out of the TDDI VP37 and modded the drive pin so it will fit an 11mm plunger from a Rover O series diesel pump, and then an LDA from another rover 825 VM diesel. ill have way too much fuel for my needs 3.2mm lift on a 11mm head should be good. Whats the difference between the TDDI injectors and the 210bar L series injectors? were they a direct fit? how did you time the pump? did you just use what the pump came setup at already, or did you use a dti and set the lift at TDC?
Escort, great machine, I still remember with fondness :) Yes, pistons and head fit without any problems. I personally assembled several hybrids consisting of 1.8D(TD) engine block, shaft from 1.8D(TD). Pistons, connecting rods and head were from 1.8TDDI/TDCI. One important thing: you must use metal head gasket from 1.8TDDI/TDCI, the one from 1.8TD is too weak for this setup. I did not build my own pump, I modified pump from Citroen Boxer 2.5TDI. This pump has a 11mm piston, and a boostpin. Pump numbers: 0460414140 0460414156 I modified the governor to increase the rpm range, and modified the timing pin at the bottom of the pump to let him move in a wider range. The pump fits perfectly on the original 1.8TD mount. I set it up according to the timing lockers, and then modified the setting after some test drives. Modifying the pump setting on the pump timing belt/wheel is usually +/- 1mm I am not familiar with the injectors you are writing about (or maybe I misunderstood you). I used injectors from Rover 25, only because they have compatible nozzles with typical "tuning" ones from VW. You can easily fit .216, .230 or even .260mm nozzles to them One important point: if you are going to use Citroen pump, you will have to order your own metal injection pipes. The original from 1.8TD will not fit (bad nuts). Those from 1.8TDDI will fit, but for them you will have to properly set the injection phase on the injection pump wheel. Here you have pictures that may explain a lot: postimg.cc/gallery/ZYtjXdm postimg.cc/gallery/6GHj6j7 Good luck with your hybrid! In case any other doubts, do not hesitate to ask me more questions :)
@@jaszczurtd The Rover 25 uses the L series diesel engine, and they use 210bar break pressure injectors. The earlier L series from 200 /400 rovers use 200bar injectors. they are more sort after here in the UK as they flow much more fuel than the 25 /45 versions. What i was wondering was if the 25 injectors flowed more fuel than the standard DI ford ones and if they needed modding to fit the Ford head also, if you've changed the nozzles then they would flow more regardless. The pump I'm building up is like a mechanical version of the VP44 that came with the TDDI so the camplate is perfect for the DI engine, but as the timing is ECU timed dynamically its hard to know what to set the plunger lift at when timing the engine statically, I have successfully built a mechanical timed pump for a Rover 400 so it now runs without an ECU controlling the engine. but i had data from its ancestor that i could set it to and work from there. i guess i could try the same thing with this engine too
@@austinmaxi I was using a few turbos and manifolds. The setup from movie was using the Ford Mondeo MK1 turbo and manifold ("T2" on the turbo's plate). For now, I'm starting to play with modified (hybrid) Ford Focus MK1 VNT turbo, and my own custom controller.
Wszystko widać na fotorelacji, wtryski z Rovera 25 z końcówkami WZM 0.230mm, na pompę trzeba polować, zdarzają się po dobrych cenach, teraz są tylko dwie i drogie: allegro.pl/listing?string=0460414140&order=m&bmatch=ss-base-relevance-floki-5-nga-hcp-wp-uni-1-1-0425
Hello again :) I'm progressing on my build of this hybrid..but im stuck on what tightness to torque the head bolts to. I can't use the TDDI bolts as they're too long for the escort block, so if have to use the short bolts all round. The tddi short bolts have a different final torque to the long bolts, so I was wandering if I should torque all the bolts to the same spec as the short TDDI bolts?
bardzo ciekawy projekt czy blok z 1.8td wytrzymuje to ile KM szacujesz z tego motora,mam MK2 mondeo mam ochotę na taki mod jaki koszt takiej modyfikacji
Wytrzyma sporo, bo po takim modzie zawiera w sobie wszystkie najmocniejsze podzespoły z rodziny tych silników. Co do kosztów - jak za kapitalkę. Ten konkretnie motor wygenerował 128KM. Tu masz fotorelację: postimg.cc/gallery/212s0s5me/
Hola amigos, necesito saber porque no arranca en frío de invierno, a la mañana, tiene compresión, batería nueva, bujías nuevas, arranque reparado, pero el primer arranque de la mañana, es para sufrir, algún comentario, gracias
Hi, I have a problem, the car starts by pushing it, but when it's cold, it doesn't smoke and it doesn't make any noise either. He himself is properly tuned the pump and the rest. What could it be? very good video
@@jaszczurtd It is a spanish ford fiesta endura 1.8 diesel 1996. Because it seems that you are very clear about what you are doing. The car doesn't smoke but by pushing it starts. He himself is ready. Where could I start?
@@sergiolescano8132 Check that you have tight fuel lines and a fuel filter. Install a fuel check valve on the fuel supply line to the fuel injection pump. tinyurl.com/2ayd8kfp
Silnik jest zbudowany od zera, głowica, tłoki i korbowody od focusa 1.8tddi. Odpala do -15 bez grzania świec po jednym przekręceniu wału. Na filmie masz późną zimę, silnik jest zimny, świece jak widać grzane nie były.
@@jaszczurtd thanks, i have same engine but i want to install a bosch pump im thinking on golf 3 gtd 1,9td, do u think that it works? or can u name me one that i can install ?
@@bloodya2h773 I'm almost certain that you don't have the same engine. ;) My looks like regular 1.8TD, but is not ;) This one is with direct injection, and this pump is also for direct injection. Anyway - you can try with some 1.9TD pump, but it has to be from indirect injection 1.9TD. Also, you may have some problems with the pump's belt pulley and mounting. So I recommend some pump from 1.8D (without turbo), with the number 0460494xxx (three last digits are not so important). The most important part of the number is 0460494, where "9" states for the pump piston diameter. After adjusting the dose of fuel, this pump will be completely sufficient for turbo, and you will easily reach even 100-110 hp.
@@jaszczurtd ty bro, all fiestas 1.8d bosch pump will fit on my mondeo? does the lucas pump 1.8td have more power then the fiesta 1.8d bosch? and with the injectors from 1.8d that has more flow do u think i can have pass 110hp+?
You want all necessary engine specs? In short, this is a hybrid, half mondeo mk2 1.8 TD, half Focus TDCI 1.8TDCI with injection pump from peugeot boxer 2.5TD, injectors from Rover 25 and nozzless of .0230 diameter.
@@no-damn-alias Yeah, maybe a little complicated. ;) To answer the question if it was on purpose - well, yes. It all started with a dead 1.8TD engine in an Escort. I just wanted to swap 1.8TDDI to the Escort, just exchanging the injection pump to the mechanical one. But then it turned out that the design of 1.8TDDI creates a lot of problems: first and foremost is the injection pump originally used, which has a different bolt spacing, and non-standard centering mount size. So exchaning the pump was a no-go. The second problem is, that access to the pump is difficult, due to the fact that it is driven by a chain running in the oil cartridge. This makes me to start disassembling the TDDI, and i was almost getting ready to scrap the Escort. But while disassembling I noticed that there are many differences, but also similarities between 1.8TD and 1.8TDDI. So I decided to put together an engine which will combine advantages of both constructions. For example: cool timing belt(s) design, easy access to the injection pump, direct fuel injection, stronger connecting rods, separate oil pump. And so MTDDI was created. Currently I pulled 170hp from that design, and preparing for 200hp. To answer the question what pump is in 1.8TDDI - it is vp30. Hope this helps. :)
@@jaszczurtd thanks a lot for that very detailed answer. So you made a Frankenstein engine ;) . Great to see people think so much outside the box. Hope it'll all hold up. I just want a direct injection engine with a mechanical pump but I don't want a 1.9Mtdi VW as this is what everybody does who wants a Mtdi. Still I want to engine to be readily available on the market and enough of them so there are people which Know a lot about it. This seems a bit too much work for me to simply have a MTDi. Have a lot of fun with your engine
@@adonayburgos2253 nie masz takich. To jest inna konstrukcja, to nie jest zwykłe 1.8TD. Brzmienie może podobne, ale na tym podobieństwa w pracy się kończą.
A very strong, simple and reliable engine.
Excelente y yo reniego con la puesta a punto de mi endura 😁😁😁
Oryginalny silnik forda na wtrysku pośrednim jest niewiele warty. Dlatego postanowiłem sprawdzić czy można go ulepszyć, i dlatego zbudowałem tą hybrydę.
Si podes compartir por aca, algun acierto en tu relacion con el endura, estoy en la misma
@@Banana_Mango_2 o jaki konkretnie sukces chodzi? Mój silnik to nie endura, on tylko powstał na bazie endura
Sounds very smooth.
dziękuję za informację , będę się zabierał za kompletowanie ,mam nadzieję że to ogarnę do zimy, pozdrawiam
Powodzenia, w razie czego zapraszam na www.ford-tech.pl - tam można mnie znaleźć i zadawać pytania na forum.
Круто! У меня мондео 2 с таким. Он прекрасен. Вот бы мне так в нем разбираться)
Im glad i found you! im attempting to do this myself in my MK6 Escort van. So does TDDI Pistons and rods swap stright over to the older Endura/lynx engine, including the head with out any problems?
ATM im building my own bosch VE for it using a fiesta courier bosch pump for the body, using the camplate out of the TDDI VP37 and modded the drive pin so it will fit an 11mm plunger from a Rover O series diesel pump, and then an LDA from another rover 825 VM diesel. ill have way too much fuel for my needs 3.2mm lift on a 11mm head should be good. Whats the difference between the TDDI injectors and the 210bar L series injectors? were they a direct fit?
how did you time the pump? did you just use what the pump came setup at already, or did you use a dti and set the lift at TDC?
Escort, great machine, I still remember with fondness :)
Yes, pistons and head fit without any problems.
I personally assembled several hybrids consisting of 1.8D(TD) engine block, shaft from 1.8D(TD).
Pistons, connecting rods and head were from 1.8TDDI/TDCI.
One important thing: you must use metal head gasket from 1.8TDDI/TDCI, the one from
1.8TD is too weak for this setup.
I did not build my own pump, I modified pump from Citroen Boxer 2.5TDI. This pump has a 11mm piston, and a boostpin.
Pump numbers:
0460414140
0460414156
I modified the governor to increase the rpm range, and modified the timing pin at the bottom of the pump to let him move in a wider range.
The pump fits perfectly on the original 1.8TD mount.
I set it up according to the timing lockers, and then modified the setting after some test drives.
Modifying the pump setting on the pump timing belt/wheel is usually +/- 1mm
I am not familiar with the injectors you are writing about (or maybe I misunderstood you). I used injectors from Rover 25, only because they have compatible nozzles with typical "tuning" ones from VW. You can easily fit .216, .230 or even .260mm nozzles to them
One important point: if you are going to use Citroen pump, you will have to order your own metal injection pipes. The original
from 1.8TD will not fit (bad nuts). Those from 1.8TDDI will fit, but for them you will
have to properly set the injection phase on the injection pump wheel.
Here you have pictures that may explain a lot: postimg.cc/gallery/ZYtjXdm
postimg.cc/gallery/6GHj6j7
Good luck with your hybrid! In case any other doubts, do not hesitate to ask me more questions :)
@@jaszczurtd The Rover 25 uses the L series diesel engine, and they use 210bar break pressure injectors. The earlier L series from 200 /400 rovers use 200bar injectors. they are more sort after here in the UK as they flow much more fuel than the 25 /45 versions. What i was wondering was if the 25 injectors flowed more fuel than the standard DI ford ones and if they needed modding to fit the Ford head also, if you've changed the nozzles then they would flow more regardless. The pump I'm building up is like a mechanical version of the VP44 that came with the TDDI so the camplate is perfect for the DI engine, but as the timing is ECU timed dynamically its hard to know what to set the plunger lift at when timing the engine statically, I have successfully built a mechanical timed pump for a Rover 400 so it now runs without an ECU controlling the engine. but i had data from its ancestor that i could set it to and work from there. i guess i could try the same thing with this engine too
@@jaszczurtd What turbo and manifold are you using?
@@austinmaxi I was using a few turbos and manifolds. The setup from movie was using the Ford Mondeo MK1 turbo and manifold ("T2" on the turbo's plate). For now, I'm starting to play with modified (hybrid) Ford Focus MK1 VNT turbo, and my own custom controller.
So how did you get on with the fuel pump
огонь!
super dzięki a wtryski masz oryginał czy większe końcówki i ta pompa nie mogę takiej znaleźć na aukcjach ?
Wszystko widać na fotorelacji, wtryski z Rovera 25 z końcówkami WZM 0.230mm, na pompę trzeba polować, zdarzają się po dobrych cenach, teraz są tylko dwie i drogie: allegro.pl/listing?string=0460414140&order=m&bmatch=ss-base-relevance-floki-5-nga-hcp-wp-uni-1-1-0425
Hello again :) I'm progressing on my build of this hybrid..but im stuck on what tightness to torque the head bolts to. I can't use the TDDI bolts as they're too long for the escort block, so if have to use the short bolts all round. The tddi short bolts have a different final torque to the long bolts, so I was wandering if I should torque all the bolts to the same spec as the short TDDI bolts?
- 1. stage 20 Nm
- 2. stage 54 Nm
- 3. stage 180°
You are using the metal gasket as well I suppose?
@@jaszczurtd yes using the TDDI metal gasket, and the T70 IDI head bolts.
bardzo ciekawy projekt czy blok z 1.8td wytrzymuje to ile KM szacujesz z tego motora,mam MK2 mondeo mam ochotę na taki mod jaki koszt takiej modyfikacji
Wytrzyma sporo, bo po takim modzie zawiera w sobie wszystkie najmocniejsze podzespoły z rodziny tych silników. Co do kosztów - jak za kapitalkę. Ten konkretnie motor wygenerował 128KM. Tu masz fotorelację: postimg.cc/gallery/212s0s5me/
Hola amigos, necesito saber porque no arranca en frío de invierno, a la mañana, tiene compresión, batería nueva, bujías nuevas, arranque reparado, pero el primer arranque de la mañana, es para sufrir, algún comentario, gracias
acelerar el ángulo de inyección en la rueda de la bomba de inyección.
verifica sa nu ai aer in furtunele de motorina
Hi, I have a problem, the car starts by pushing it, but when it's cold, it doesn't smoke and it doesn't make any noise either. He himself is properly tuned the pump and the rest. What could it be? very good video
What car? What engine? And why you think I could know the answer? ;)
@@jaszczurtd It is a spanish ford fiesta endura 1.8 diesel 1996. Because it seems that you are very clear about what you are doing. The car doesn't smoke but by pushing it starts. He himself is ready. Where could I start?
@@sergiolescano8132 Check that you have tight fuel lines and a fuel filter. Install a fuel check valve on the fuel supply line to the fuel injection pump. tinyurl.com/2ayd8kfp
am o intrebare . merge si fara calculatorul de bord al masinii ?? . cum pot sal fac sa mearga fara calculator .
Ten silnik działa bez komputera sterującego. Jest na mechanicznej pompie wtryskowej.
witam czy dużo było przerabiania jak ci zapala w minusowych temperaturach
Silnik jest zbudowany od zera, głowica, tłoki i korbowody od focusa 1.8tddi. Odpala do -15 bez grzania świec po jednym przekręceniu wału. Na filmie masz późną zimę, silnik jest zimny, świece jak widać grzane nie były.
What pump is that? Bosch VE with compensator?
BoshVE, Peugeot Boxer 2.5 TDI 0460414140
Este motor es irrompible
Estaba en mi primer auto un Ford escort año 2mil una masa 💪🇦🇷👍
Mi motor no es un motor escort, es un híbrido de motor escort y focus.
El nombre del motor es Endurade 1800cc aspirado también equipada el focus pero en versión TDI
@@luispadilla7519 El nombre del motor es irrelevante, se trata de una tapa de válvulas de un Endura 1.8TD sobre una culata de un 1.8TDCI.
hi what is needed to install that fuel pump?
@bloody A2H you need to rebuild the engine. Original design is for indirect injection, this pump requires direct injection.
@@jaszczurtd thanks, i have same engine but i want to install a bosch pump im thinking on golf 3 gtd 1,9td, do u think that it works? or can u name me one that i can install ?
@@bloodya2h773 I'm almost certain that you don't have the same engine. ;) My looks like regular 1.8TD, but is not ;) This one is with direct injection, and this pump is also for direct injection. Anyway - you can try with some 1.9TD pump, but it has to be from indirect injection 1.9TD. Also, you may have some problems with the pump's belt pulley and mounting. So I recommend some pump from 1.8D (without turbo), with the number 0460494xxx (three last digits are not so important). The most important part of the number is 0460494, where "9" states for the pump piston diameter. After adjusting the dose of fuel, this pump will be completely sufficient for turbo, and you will easily reach even 100-110 hp.
@@jaszczurtd ty bro, all fiestas 1.8d bosch pump will fit on my mondeo? does the lucas pump 1.8td have more power then the fiesta 1.8d bosch? and with the injectors from 1.8d that has more flow do u think i can have pass 110hp+?
@bloody A2H any pump from fiesta/escort with the number above will fit. You don't have to replace/exchange injectors.
I don't speak Polish. Can you explain please which parts
You want all necessary engine specs? In short, this is a hybrid, half mondeo mk2 1.8 TD, half Focus TDCI 1.8TDCI with injection pump from peugeot boxer 2.5TD, injectors from Rover 25 and nozzless of .0230 diameter.
@@jaszczurtd that seems rather complicated. Was that on purpose or is that needed to create a Mtddi? Do you know which pump the normal tddi uses?
@@no-damn-alias Yeah, maybe a little complicated. ;) To answer the question if it was on purpose - well, yes. It all started with a dead 1.8TD engine in an Escort. I just wanted to swap 1.8TDDI to the Escort, just exchanging the injection pump to the mechanical one. But then it turned out that the design of 1.8TDDI creates a lot of problems: first and foremost is the injection pump originally used, which has a different bolt spacing, and non-standard centering mount size. So exchaning the pump was a no-go. The second problem is, that access to the pump is difficult, due to the fact that it is driven by a chain running in the oil cartridge. This makes me to start disassembling the TDDI, and i was almost getting ready to scrap the Escort. But while disassembling I noticed that there are many differences, but also similarities between 1.8TD and 1.8TDDI. So I decided to put together an engine which will combine advantages of both constructions. For example: cool timing belt(s) design, easy access to the injection pump, direct fuel injection, stronger connecting rods, separate oil pump. And so MTDDI was created. Currently I pulled 170hp from that design, and preparing for 200hp. To answer the question what pump is in 1.8TDDI - it is vp30. Hope this helps. :)
@@jaszczurtd thanks a lot for that very detailed answer. So you made a Frankenstein engine ;) . Great to see people think so much outside the box. Hope it'll all hold up. I just want a direct injection engine with a mechanical pump but I don't want a 1.9Mtdi VW as this is what everybody does who wants a Mtdi. Still I want to engine to be readily available on the market and enough of them so there are people which Know a lot about it.
This seems a bit too much work for me to simply have a MTDi. Have a lot of fun with your engine
@@jaszczurtd Привіт,форсунки в зборі від rover 25? чи тільки розпилювачі?
So this is direct injection ?
Yes, direct injection
@@jaszczurtd that's sweet ! I love the td idi engine but that sounds lovely
Esos motores suenan así como si fuera algo flojo
Lepiej tak brzmieć niż takim być. To ma dobrze jechać a nie brzmieć.
@@jaszczurtd es por que tengo uno de esos en Venezuela pero suena como si pegara hierro con hierro suenan así original mente
@@adonayburgos2253 nie masz takich. To jest inna konstrukcja, to nie jest zwykłe 1.8TD. Brzmienie może podobne, ale na tym podobieństwa w pracy się kończą.
@@jaszczurtd me puedes ayudar te quiero pasar un video de como suena el mio