Tbf since it’s optional stuff I’m down for it. I know sunbreak had a controversial endgame, but I personally found it a lot of fun apart from the slow anomaly level progression and low rank afflicted hunts
i think this guy is harder than rey dau cause rey dau's attacks are slow and very telegraphed. After doing big attacks rey also stops any actions so you have alot of big openings. 4 or 5 star Dosha on the other hand has faster attacks that hit like a truck and is harder to hit similar to Goss Harag.
this has been true for a lot of these fanged beasts compared to flying wyverns. Their body skeletons don't have any real tells or visual indications. Their moves just sort of happen, and now that Capcom have doubled down on delayed attacks somewhat, make them frustrating to hunt. This is why Offset moves requiring preempting the timings a little is gonna suck for these kinds of fights.
@@bladechild2449 I dont agree at all, Dosha has Great attack Tells, you can even see them in this video, every big attack and even small ones have a certain motion to show that its coming, many attached to its head as the starting point, which Then travel to other parts of the body throughout the animation.
@@Tommyvang187I would still say flying wyverns have some of the best tells, not to mention they are the most common monsters. But yeah doshuguma has some good tells.
low level monsters with oneshots and extra hp are always the worst, cause they arent given as much time and care for their animations and development as bigger monsters so it gets rough, mostly impatience from the simple moveset causes mistakes, but thats a personal problem. definitely the hardest monster ad by a long shot
I was trying out dual blades and pummeled a 2 star doshugama, constantly popping wounds and whatnot, but just now I fought a 4 star one thinking "oh how much different could it be?" Went through all my heal items, took 3 times as long to kill, and I could barely get any wounds to show up. I was surprised as just how much of an impact the star difference made for the same monster.
Yeah it looks like you're hunting an HR level monster with either basic LR gear or real early HR gear, which.. yeah. You're gonna get your shit rocked in.
I really like how they made gunlance branch off of lance's poke gameplay even more with wilds there's so much more to its movesets now, with shelling even used as a movement tech to dodge or reposition
I kinda wonder what the reward disparity will be for this. Because if it's just a few extra mats or something, people won't bother with them. Now, increased chances at gems and stuff... perhaps.
every time I've hunted a monster that said it would promise more rewards ended up filling my screen with mats, it made the brain juice happy seeing them
I think its neat to find more stars of the same monster. It can help provide an extra layer of challenge to familiar foes, even if it's basically just more health and damage.
Noticed myself today, i was just starting to try out the other weapons as i grab the greatsword and chase a 5 star doshaguma and my hunt was going pretty well until he reached that part when he enrages and opens up his old wounds, proceed to cart me in one hit LOL
@ It does keep the other wounds, allowing for easy big damage if you can reach them, so I’d argue it ultimately makes the hunts quicker, especially in Co-op.
yes i also found this out. Not on a 5 star rather a 3*. i 'm using heavy bowgun and just dodging and repositioning and the monster is just a bullet sponge. i was getting comfortable and i thought i was learning his moves and out of nowhere i got carted. I was thinking that he was a bad tempered Azuros as well. well done fight!
I kept feeling like the Doshagumas I was fighting were sometimes more difficult than the Rey Daus I fought. This might be why. I no-carted Rey Dau on every weapon, but maybe the real challenge would have been no-carting 5* Dosha.
i fought Rey Dau till it's nesting ground which had electric fields all over the ground and i found a cool Pod that dissipates electricity on the ground. I wonder if it prevents Rey Dau from enraging if i shot the pod at it. Didn't get to try as i killed it already. It does remove the electric field on the ground when i shot at the ground.
From what I know all it does is create an environmental hazard when he attacks the ground. It would leave a delayed electrical explosive on certain attacks it does
me and my friend were hunting this thing and it took us 3 separate attempts cause right at the end when its almost dead it just randomly kills us, doesn't help that its hp is almost as high as ray dous worse hitboxes on the back and relocates every 2 minutes, so each attempt dragged out soooo long😂 we thought ray dou was gunna be the hard one
Yes, but this also is a new mechanic in general that hasn’t been in the game, so not only do we not know everything about how it works, but we also don’t know what will change on release
most likely the 'light blue stars' are the typical stars you see in older games, the more you progress the story the higher the stars for a quest, needing urgent quests unlock the next star. the purple are like mhnow where they are "more powerful" most likely hp and damage. why they went with stars twice is the real mystery😅
On an actual real note tho. I've tried playing the beta and for some reason the PC version keeps crashing randomly (whether its fighting, going into the tent, roaming around), i have the proper specs for the game, but i just dont know what to do. I play for like 5 minutes and boom, it freezes.
@@slushie6269and modders probably this time cant do shit to this game because Denuvo lol. If they could we can probably get some optimization mods to help us with this shit
Hey caoslayer, do you think WSFB is the best combo right now? Or do you think spamming regular fullbursts is much better? Because by the looks of it, fullbursts do better damage compared to wyrmstakes which only do about 1-3 damage per tick. And it also doesn't help that one of the startup moves you need to do for a WSB, the wide sweep, was heavily nerfed in terms of damage. But I don't know I'm not really a math guy. Maybe some other people smarter than me can tell what the most optimal combos are.
now that the beta is over I got time enough to sit down and break down combos and timings and try to properly figure out stuff. My gut feeling is that burst spam is great at small windows and if you don't have the stake ready.
@caoslayer Ah, okay. I mostly just spammed fullbursts and took advantage of those faster recovery animations. Not to mention that Guard is able to cancel those recovery animations now so that really made me wanna just spam fullbursts everytime with no worries. I honestly think that even if those were the only things added to the Gunlance this gen, I would've already been satisfied. But they really went above and beyond with this weapon this time around. Sometimes I think they actually hired a gunlance main for once while they where trying to make this game lol. With all of that said, I still feel weird about WSB and WSFB though. I think this is the first time where gunlance had a move that did multiple different attacks at once with a single button press. So I'm still getting used to that. I know higher animation commitment isn't new to gunlance, but this one feels a bit different than before. But yeah, I still very much appreciate them being added into the game. Here's to hoping we get to master those WSFB guard points in the future.
I've heard you can find this but haven't fought one yet. I wonder if it's possible to get an investigation for one? Damn, it's not even the alpha dosha
/facepalm We have tempered monster this early? Damn. Is there anyway you can showcase which attacks are safe for short windows of opportunity and long windows of opportunity? By comparison, a short window is like 2 shelling back to back while a long window is 5 shelling in a row.
I can say how long take a combo. The shortest combo is the hop, no shell reload, slam, burst. 3.4 seconds The default combo are shell sweep wsfb . You usually delay or cancel the second one if is no safe. You delay it to use the guard point
@@caoslayer Yeah everything starts off the guard point. Shelling is a very safe attack since quick reload can be used immediately. I'm trying to be as greedy as I can then find safer alternatives for those moves.
@@caoslayer I have a good PC and it still run like crap, i really hope they improve it before launch, because a lot of players of Rise won't be able to play it, and the sales will reflect that, especially after the disaster that was the PC port of DD2. The RE engine is clearly not adapted for open world.
Obviously, frame rate complaint are perfectly valid, but this is a beta. A free open beta. It’s supposed to help speed up the pace of finding this sorts of issues. It’s normal for a beta to run poorly only for the final release to be vastly improved. I would be critical without worrying too much
I play on 1440p high never touched settings in depth except for fsr to quality and it never drops below 60fps. I expected this beta to run mich much worse tbh. Playing on 5800x3d and 7800xt
@@larsschulze2799 It's pretty random, have friends with the same computer but vastly different experiance, one run smooth while the other drop fram all the tiem.
I personally disliked the gunlance moveset this game. It feels clunkier and more similar to a greatsword when it comes to commitment to big moves. I'll keep trying to get a bit more used to it, but lance and insect glaive are looking much more interesting for my specific playstyle. Great hunt in any case, Cao! Looking forward to seeing you demolish this game!
For me, even in rise, it was always a little clunky. But now it just does what it’s supposed to do better. But I do agree, it is hard to get used to it
@@caoslayer ok, I’ll meet you half way, I’ll use sns to open wounds up close, hop on the bird, swap, then blast them all at once with focus strike on the bow
Not only do these oneshot attacks still have telegraphs, but this is the beta where we literally have no control over our build and now way to get stronger
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Well time to run around like a lunatic till I see a 5 star doshaguma on the map.
MH Sunbreak Endgame Balance Team escaped containment
Tbf since it’s optional stuff I’m down for it. I know sunbreak had a controversial endgame, but I personally found it a lot of fun apart from the slow anomaly level progression and low rank afflicted hunts
I still have not beaten primordial malzeno
@@GMurph2336go back and do it brother. You must
@@GMurph2336 Why not?
@@epsilon1372Honestly I thought Sunbreak had the best endgame of MH that I’ve played except for the slow progression
i think this guy is harder than rey dau cause rey dau's attacks are slow and very telegraphed. After doing big attacks rey also stops any actions so you have alot of big openings. 4 or 5 star Dosha on the other hand has faster attacks that hit like a truck and is harder to hit similar to Goss Harag.
this has been true for a lot of these fanged beasts compared to flying wyverns. Their body skeletons don't have any real tells or visual indications. Their moves just sort of happen, and now that Capcom have doubled down on delayed attacks somewhat, make them frustrating to hunt. This is why Offset moves requiring preempting the timings a little is gonna suck for these kinds of fights.
@@bladechild2449 I dont agree at all, Dosha has Great attack Tells, you can even see them in this video, every big attack and even small ones have a certain motion to show that its coming, many attached to its head as the starting point, which Then travel to other parts of the body throughout the animation.
@@Tommyvang187I would still say flying wyverns have some of the best tells, not to mention they are the most common monsters. But yeah doshuguma has some good tells.
low level monsters with oneshots and extra hp are always the worst, cause they arent given as much time and care for their animations and development as bigger monsters so it gets rough, mostly impatience from the simple moveset causes mistakes, but thats a personal problem.
definitely the hardest monster ad by a long shot
@@Tommyvang187 true it does have some tells but it's also true that rey dau's tells are much easier to read and react to
I was trying out dual blades and pummeled a 2 star doshugama, constantly popping wounds and whatnot, but just now I fought a 4 star one thinking "oh how much different could it be?" Went through all my heal items, took 3 times as long to kill, and I could barely get any wounds to show up. I was surprised as just how much of an impact the star difference made for the same monster.
Just realized that letting Focus always on means that I'll always attack where the camera is facing.
Add Focus camera so that your camera always turns towards your lock on target...
Seeing the what the mats are(beast gem, doshaguma claw +) after the hunt...no wonder its doing so much damage, it's a high-rank monster.
Yeah it looks like you're hunting an HR level monster with either basic LR gear or real early HR gear, which.. yeah. You're gonna get your shit rocked in.
I really like how they made gunlance branch off of lance's poke gameplay even more with wilds there's so much more to its movesets now, with shelling even used as a movement tech to dodge or reposition
Also you can charge all shells for increased damage. It finally is more Gun than Lance.
Thanks for that full burst spam tips on downed monster
I kinda wonder what the reward disparity will be for this. Because if it's just a few extra mats or something, people won't bother with them. Now, increased chances at gems and stuff... perhaps.
Most higher * auto include gems in the beta
more rare thing
I like the option purely for the challenge
every time I've hunted a monster that said it would promise more rewards ended up filling my screen with mats, it made the brain juice happy seeing them
The novelty might wear off eventually, but for now I still laugh every single time I hear a palico with a deep voice
I though it was a Human NPC lmao. Deep voice palico is both blessed and cursed.
Improved investigations. Sweet!
Wow, I didn't even know there were were power differences for each monster. Doshaguma is generally an annoying fight, but that looks terrifying lol
Fought a 4 star in the wild and carted once, the dmg is no joke.
I just hunted this guy with ny dual blades. The sense of danger really adds to the hunt. It's probably my favorite in the open beta rn
I think its neat to find more stars of the same monster. It can help provide an extra layer of challenge to familiar foes, even if it's basically just more health and damage.
I am LOVING the Gunlance in Wilds. Still eager to see how the shelling types will ultimately affect playstyles with it.
My pc handled world pretty well, I didn't think it was a potato. But with Wilds, its a potato. At least it didn't blow up though.
Noticed myself today, i was just starting to try out the other weapons as i grab the greatsword and chase a 5 star doshaguma and my hunt was going pretty well until he reached that part when he enrages and opens up his old wounds, proceed to cart me in one hit LOL
You can wound all the parts you can get to when mounting a monster.
Yeah. But I like to get it done quick
@ It does keep the other wounds, allowing for easy big damage if you can reach them, so I’d argue it ultimately makes the hunts quicker, especially in Co-op.
I fought him a couple hours ago. He was jacking me up
Got him?
@@caoslayer Nah I had to leave. I got him weak but I was also 2 carts in
yes i also found this out. Not on a 5 star rather a 3*. i 'm using heavy bowgun and just dodging and repositioning and the monster is just a bullet sponge. i was getting comfortable and i thought i was learning his moves and out of nowhere i got carted. I was thinking that he was a bad tempered Azuros as well. well done fight!
So you can automatically trigger the drake auger finisher? Good to know
Manually, but yes
@ sorry I meant manually
I kept feeling like the Doshagumas I was fighting were sometimes more difficult than the Rey Daus I fought. This might be why. I no-carted Rey Dau on every weapon, but maybe the real challenge would have been no-carting 5* Dosha.
i fought Rey Dau till it's nesting ground which had electric fields all over the ground and i found a cool Pod that dissipates electricity on the ground. I wonder if it prevents Rey Dau from enraging if i shot the pod at it. Didn't get to try as i killed it already. It does remove the electric field on the ground when i shot at the ground.
From what I know all it does is create an environmental hazard when he attacks the ground. It would leave a delayed electrical explosive on certain attacks it does
I'm so fucking hyped for Wilds' Gunlance. This is so much fun 😁
Doshaguma are so op I love them muscle bear lions
me and my friend were hunting this thing and it took us 3 separate attempts cause right at the end when its almost dead it just randomly kills us, doesn't help that its hp is almost as high as ray dous worse hitboxes on the back and relocates every 2 minutes, so each attempt dragged out soooo long😂 we thought ray dou was gunna be the hard one
are the rewards worth it? I didnt expect 5 stars to be significantly harder actually.
We dont know. But should be rarer decorations
God I hope offensive guard comes back in wilds. Gonna be so good with gunlance
quick question: how i find these 5 stars? just rng? im kinda new into mh
Yes, but this also is a new mechanic in general that hasn’t been in the game, so not only do we not know everything about how it works, but we also don’t know what will change on release
Did special investigation goss harag sneak into wilds
so it was not me i cant kill this guy in 25min
I actually don't understand the meaning of the stars. Someone to explain please ?
Simple: monsters with more stars are harder and do more damage.
most likely the 'light blue stars' are the typical stars you see in older games, the more you progress the story the higher the stars for a quest, needing urgent quests unlock the next star.
the purple are like mhnow where they are "more powerful" most likely hp and damage. why they went with stars twice is the real mystery😅
Currently this thing and Rey dau have equal carts on me and my friends
I beat this one too. It was pretty hard but I managed.
Bien hecho
@caoslayer gracias
Capcom putting in real time and effort to inflate monster variables. Give that guy at capcom adding 1.2x multipliers a salary bump!
I fought a 5 star balahara once. I still killed it, but he hit hard
On an actual real note tho. I've tried playing the beta and for some reason the PC version keeps crashing randomly (whether its fighting, going into the tent, roaming around), i have the proper specs for the game, but i just dont know what to do. I play for like 5 minutes and boom, it freezes.
Yeah the pc launch is going awful for everyone rn
@@slushie6269and modders probably this time cant do shit to this game because Denuvo lol. If they could we can probably get some optimization mods to help us with this shit
@@slushie6269 runs flawless for me ^^
@@sneakysnake3344 and thus spoke the rich boy with his high spec computer
That seems more like an issue with your actual PC, I don't mean specs wise, but what are your specs? (Yknow just incase)
Hey caoslayer, do you think WSFB is the best combo right now? Or do you think spamming regular fullbursts is much better? Because by the looks of it, fullbursts do better damage compared to wyrmstakes which only do about 1-3 damage per tick. And it also doesn't help that one of the startup moves you need to do for a WSB, the wide sweep, was heavily nerfed in terms of damage. But I don't know I'm not really a math guy. Maybe some other people smarter than me can tell what the most optimal combos are.
now that the beta is over I got time enough to sit down and break down combos and timings and try to properly figure out stuff.
My gut feeling is that burst spam is great at small windows and if you don't have the stake ready.
@caoslayer Ah, okay. I mostly just spammed fullbursts and took advantage of those faster recovery animations. Not to mention that Guard is able to cancel those recovery animations now so that really made me wanna just spam fullbursts everytime with no worries. I honestly think that even if those were the only things added to the Gunlance this gen, I would've already been satisfied. But they really went above and beyond with this weapon this time around. Sometimes I think they actually hired a gunlance main for once while they where trying to make this game lol.
With all of that said, I still feel weird about WSB and WSFB though. I think this is the first time where gunlance had a move that did multiple different attacks at once with a single button press. So I'm still getting used to that. I know higher animation commitment isn't new to gunlance, but this one feels a bit different than before. But yeah, I still very much appreciate them being added into the game. Here's to hoping we get to master those WSFB guard points in the future.
Tht ground move he does is so unfair...its unblockable and doshbag can 360 on a dime to hit u even if u move out of the way
Me and my friend actually found a 5 star Alpha Doshuguma
We got pretty close to beating it but we ultimately failed…
With more people is actually harder since kill two guys in one hit
I hunted one on accident and wondered why the heck I was taking so much damage. Still killed it tho, cause charge blade is nuts
i like the star system
Any special rewards?
maybe this for deco
3 wounds
I've heard you can find this but haven't fought one yet. I wonder if it's possible to get an investigation for one?
Damn, it's not even the alpha dosha
No. No investigation :-(
@caoslayer ah well. At the very least, this probably means they aren't planning on making wilds too easy if a doshaguma can be this much of a threat.
In addition to this: it seems 5 star balahara are also possible. And my gog are they tanky.
Is there anyway to guarantee it? I want to fight it haha
Sadly there is not. Is 100% random
Is there a 5 star alpha doshguma?
Bro... let me bring the hbg and the hh to see if the double stack helps the shelling 😂
/facepalm We have tempered monster this early? Damn.
Is there anyway you can showcase which attacks are safe for short windows of opportunity and long windows of opportunity? By comparison, a short window is like 2 shelling back to back while a long window is 5 shelling in a row.
I can say how long take a combo.
The shortest combo is the hop, no shell reload, slam, burst. 3.4 seconds
The default combo are shell sweep wsfb .
You usually delay or cancel the second one if is no safe. You delay it to use the guard point
@@caoslayer Yeah everything starts off the guard point. Shelling is a very safe attack since quick reload can be used immediately. I'm trying to be as greedy as I can then find safer alternatives for those moves.
Erm, what the Doshaguma?
the health effect didn't trigger because you got hit twice
Video title is cap, i play lance😎
My framerates is doing it pretty well alone.
I have a 3080 laptop.
Playing with a lot of things at low
@@caoslayer I have a good PC and it still run like crap, i really hope they improve it before launch, because a lot of players of Rise won't be able to play it, and the sales will reflect that, especially after the disaster that was the PC port of DD2. The RE engine is clearly not adapted for open world.
Obviously, frame rate complaint are perfectly valid, but this is a beta. A free open beta. It’s supposed to help speed up the pace of finding this sorts of issues. It’s normal for a beta to run poorly only for the final release to be vastly improved. I would be critical without worrying too much
I play on 1440p high never touched settings in depth except for fsr to quality and it never drops below 60fps. I expected this beta to run mich much worse tbh. Playing on 5800x3d and 7800xt
@@larsschulze2799 It's pretty random, have friends with the same computer but vastly different experiance, one run smooth while the other drop fram all the tiem.
find it funny the strongest dosha around is not even an alpha
I personally disliked the gunlance moveset this game. It feels clunkier and more similar to a greatsword when it comes to commitment to big moves. I'll keep trying to get a bit more used to it, but lance and insect glaive are looking much more interesting for my specific playstyle. Great hunt in any case, Cao! Looking forward to seeing you demolish this game!
For me, even in rise, it was always a little clunky. But now it just does what it’s supposed to do better. But I do agree, it is hard to get used to it
Varying difficulty for the same monster is such a fantastic idea for both chill hunting and the optional extra challenge.
Difficult fights would certainly be an appreciated change of pace.
FIrst : )
You could do him in with the bow, all you need is time…
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@@caoslayer ok, I’ll meet you half way, I’ll use sns to open wounds up close, hop on the bird, swap, then blast them all at once with focus strike on the bow
@@alansquared Exactly the fun in using 2 weapons.
not fond of these oneshots fake difficulty fights
First, there was tells of the attack.
Second we are vastly underpowered in the beta.
Skill issue bro
Not only do these oneshot attacks still have telegraphs, but this is the beta where we literally have no control over our build and now way to get stronger
skill issue