Microsoft Office 3.0 on Windows 10?
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In today's video, we're going to be seeing if we can install Microsoft Office 3.0 from 1992 on Windows 10! Can almost 30 year old software function on Microsoft's latest OS? Let's find out!
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Michael: *lets excel run and finish loading*
Excel: No, I don't think I will.
Using Windows with "Hide known file type extensions" active... craziest stuff I've seen
He might be doing this on a virtual machine that he couldn't be bothered to setup. I mean, he still has shortcuts to edge.
@Test Account Considering that his user name is “10VM”, I’d say you’re right.
@@CocoTheMii 😤
I have never understood why this setting exists let alone why it is on by default.
@@ian_b I think it was so people didn't rename extensions by misake
however, now renaming doesn't select the extension, so it doesn't make sense anymore
The problem is just that some random company is going to see this as a tutorial video for how they can avoid getting a newer office suite.
How is that a problem 😂
There is nothing wrong into getting a job done legally and for free
I think there's a limit to that approach- otherwise we'd all still be running 1-2-3.
@@anonUK the biggest problem is the missing xml style format support. Can't read docx or xlsx on old office. Yeah sure you can still create documents but then your business partners can't read the file because new office blocks the file by default and they are not going to change the settings. Using libre office or something is a way better option. Or just use word in your browser for free.
@the hevy it is if you share documents with other companies. It is not if you use it internally only and print the document on paper or to a pdf file.
>"on the latest and greatest windows 10"
>Windows Update notification in a corner
That's actually from 1903's Sandbox
You beat me
@@Cooliokid956 XD
that's not the update icon.
Yeah this is old that's 1809 and new is 2000
Man the memories, I remember buying MS Office 4.2 and the first thing I did was create a folder on our Novell server and create the 40 or so folders and copy the disks into each so as I went from one PC to the next I didn't have to sit there and feed floppies - good times
I think the easter-egg you are thinking of is the one from excel 97... to do that one, open a new worksheet and hit F5 to specify a cell... go to X97:L97 and hit enter... press tab.... now hold ctrl and shift... while doing that click the "chart wizard" button on the toolbar... it will open a 3D enviornment you can use to move around and find the credits! all controls are with the mouse movement and mouse buttons
You should've tried to run powerpoint from the c:\powerpnt folder, because the setup only halted on the last config files, maybe the software could still run anyway.
Also you can just create empty win.ini file.
Setup is not supposed to just create win.ini, this is similar to creating HKLM registry key on winNT or /etc on linux. If you don't have that file your windows3.x installation is probably screwed beyond repair (yeah, you have windowsNT6.4 instead, but setup creators could not imagine *that* ...)
I don't know why I missed these retro UI styles.
The softwares are even older than me.
Relatable lmao 😂
It’s because older stuff looks nicer
i must say that i certainly miss buttons on UIs. you know there is a reason why people used buttons in first place instead of a flat icon
@@kreuner11 no shit
girls wont get frustrated
@@rainerdinkler4795 wdym
I miss the old style of Windows toolbars.
This is the content I’m subscribed for. I love when you try to install the older software on Windows 10.
Glad to hear that! I would love to do some more videos like this one in the future
with 3th paty mods everyone can do that. ridiculous. Try it without. oh not possible, since windows vista there is no more DOS.
Michael MJD is a Hero, he can handle 3party, yeha ;-)
2:33 The timestamps on those floppy images bring me back. Obviously, there was someone out there curious to see how this early 90's software looked like, regarding it as already kind of vintage. And somehow, it was! I was doing the same thing around 2002 or so. In the XP era, Win 3.1 already felt completely archaic and absolutely outdated, and, again, it actually was. Compare that to installing, or even actually using Office 2007 (Office 2010 could almost fit in too at 9 yr old) today. Quite old, but doesn't seem that crazy of a thing to do. Things were moving so much faster back then. Exciting in a way, but so economically taxing for the end user.
At least Office 2007 and 2010 can still be used in normal everyday tasks, and their file types are still current.
I downloaded MS Office 3.0 and I was actually able to run powerpoint 3.0. Although, the app was processing slower than word or excel.
I had absolutely no knowledge of OTVDM, so thank you for making me aware of it. I've been using a VM of XP up until this point.
That's awesome to hear! Yeah it's a pretty awesome tool for sure.
Woah buddy if your vm crashed you would be done
Really good video! I'm glad that you finally found a sponsor for your videos - it means your channel is starting to get noticed.
Thank you so much!
I think the weird "Windows Vista"-looking theme for the error and warning dialogs are because they are managed by the otvdm software.
yeah
Or the DLL the icons have come from are more modern?
@@dieselgeezer18 hi
@@realcartoongirl uhmm. Hi...
This lightened up my day in the middle of a storm, both literally (It's pouring down outside), and in the heartwarming metaphorical one. It's the little things, thank you.
I don’t know how, but I had no idea that OTVDM existed before I watched this video.
Thanks Micheal.
Same!
Now I can run my favorite 16 bit games on my PC
Michael*
CPU registers and memory addresses...
"Ton of random information"
THEY ARE NOT RANDOM!!!
Well it's random for *him*...
Actually this is *nullptr access, most likely OTVDM does not support drag&drop from host machine - especially files.
I’m old fashion and that’s why I love this channel.
6:20 It probably wouldn't have asked you for that as long as it saw the OS as "Windows NT".
6:34 It would've originally brought Program Manager to the surface to show you that, but the stub of that in Windows NT and newer releases just converts .grp files, and opens the folder when a request is received to do what I mentioned it'd originally do.
*Michael's voice sounds like Microsoft Sam*
Kind of.
But way more realistic Microsoft Sam
14:37 you sound like Microsoft Sam XD
Great vid as usual Michael!
Good video about Microsoft office 2.0 also I like this old version of the microsoft office pack and you are making every time good videos.
When you said that Office 3.0 came in 1992, almost 30 years ago.. I felt that.
I was born in '92, dang it I feel old now! 😀
The early version of the socalled "ACMESETUP" that they use here to install these old office programs, was able to detect DISK1 to DISKn directories automatically. In fact in some cases Microsoft DID put diskette versions on CD by putting it in DISKn folders.
But yeah, this one seems to be made by a user with that OFF30 error.
07:24 In Open File Dialog, you can copy the File (Ctrl+C) and paste (Ctrl+V) it in the File Path field. It will paste the file path.
You should try to see what modern software you can run on Windows 1, 2, 3, similar to what you did with running NT software on Windows 95!
That is impossible. He did run Nt programs on 95 because it still has the Nt kernel at the base, even though it s old. Win 1 to 3 don t have the Nt kernel at all, so the way they work is way to different to the present one
@@andreibalasa745 I didn't think the consumer version of windows got the NT kernal until XP.
Indeed. He was able to run NT programs on 95 by using a software that adds some NT-kernel features to the 9x kernel, creating a compatibility layer. No such software exists for Windows 3.x and earlier.The best he could do is run a few Windows 9x programs using Win32s, which is a Win9x compatibility layer implementing a subset of the Win32 API under Windows 3.1/3.11.
He might have some luck running some very basic modern programs using Windows NT 3.1 tho, and more using Windows NT 3.51
Auto-capitalisation is not an improvement. Its an annoyance.
Turn it off: File - Options - Proofing - Autocorrect options - Capitalize First Letter
This should change the defaults, though it *is* annoying everyone else you have to work with has it on by default.
what's stopping you from turning it off?
You can install OTVDM as an Win16 executable handler, and they will open from explorer just like any other EXE file.
There's actually a special 32-bit Windows NT edition of Microsoft Word 6.0 that will run just fine even on a current 64-bit Windows.
16:29 i dont think drag-and-drop existed so long ago haha
I love using vintage software, currently I am writing a novel using microsoft word 2003 in my Win 11 Laptop. Only uses 32 mb of ram and runs fast.
If one day ReactOS becomes stable and compatible with my real hardware machine I will use it like the happiest guy in the world. Open source OS, lightweight, fast, customizable, compatible with tons of XP golden games, Supermium, 7zip.....Ah bro, that would be heaven.
the new icon that shows up at the "folder doesn't exist" message, is because windows load it's icons from rundll32.dll. in this file are almost all icons that windows uses as default for microsoft shortcuts or whatever.
10:00 I remember copying files from multiple setup disks into a directory on the hard drive and then the setup program asking for the "next disk" at which point I would just click "OK" and it would see the files. I imagine that's what's happening here.
Surf Wisely.
To cut a looooong story very short WinWord and Excel were developed from Word for Dos and Multiplan ... Word for Mac was developed on DOS PCs by Microsoft in 1984 ... their experience with developing a GUI version of their software for the Mac meant with Windows they were ready to roll with smoother GUI apps.... but the core was still a 16 bit DOS engine ....
That excel icon triggered some memories!
Thanks for the info! I'll be installing Office 97 in Linux, I'll be using jt as my office suit if compatible enough
Awesome video Michael
Thank you!
OTVDM is awsome! I had a "monopoly deluxe" game for win3, it installed fine!
Don't know whether you've done this already but can you see whether Windows 10 will work with a dial-up connection and see whether you can browse with it on the modern web?
Man that might be a fun one! I believe that the capability is still there in Windows 10 but it would be fun to try out. Thanks for the suggestion!
I had a client two months ago who still has dial up internet. Everything still works just very very VERY slowly...
ACMESetup.exe (which is used for all Office programs until Office 2000) was able to search for ..\DISKn folders automatically, so that you could copy your disks to the harddrive and install from there using DISKn folders. So that logic is not in that strange batch file, but in setup.exe itself
15:30, very reasonable many DOS and early windows virus' can pretty easily be disguised as Word documents that could cause massive damage, granted the security flaws in the windows then could be different from now but there's always a caveat when running dated software like this
Well they are very old so no dos virus could do something
@@shoeskode136 they absolutely can, not all of them, but some still can.
@@wojtekpolska1013 WHAT TF ?
I have DVD with original Microsoft office 2003 and still works on windows 10
you can still open the newest version document if you enable compatibility mode in Word
noppe - I've seen several CD-versions in this form. - A setup and subdirs with "DISCx" directly from MS
Maybe I missed it.... although the setup and Voice Over says 3.0, the setup and when you first launch it says 4.0
I personally use Minitool Partition wizard. I've used EaseUS and I don't see much of a difference but since I've used minitool longer I just keep on using it
You did another video, ummm..... IBM OS/2 or something like that, maybe it was Neptune....but the CD you downloaded after the "Boot Disk" didn't work.....on that new CD (Think it was OS/2) and the CD was divided by disks as well. I was curious, can we backup each disk on a Floppy? Such as this Excel.
I use Office 2010 on windows 10 runs perfect my favorite versions of MS Word is v6 and Word 2000
"OFF30" is the iso name! The iso is called "OFFICE30" so if you rename OFF30 to OFFICE30 the BAT would work!!🤦♂️
Even so, I don't think OTVDM allows you to run batch files from the open file dialog box, so if you were to run the batch file from File Explorer, you'd get the 'This app can't run on your PC' error message pop up.
Minecraft
@@realcartoongirl Why do 6-13 year old make everything to do with fortnite or minecraft?
@@realcartoongirl This has absolutely nothing to do with Minecraft in any way.
@real cartoon girl This is not an discussion for minecraft idiot
I'm still using MS Office 2007 Enterprise Edition. Even as it's "outdated" and almost 15 years old, I still like it and it works like a charm.
Not using or installed the whole package, but I've installed Excel and Word from that package and still happy with them.
There are probably security issues with using old office software, be careful
@@narcopsyUsing Windows is a security issue itself. Be aware of that
14:08 Checked if this error was still present in the current version of Word. It did not find the spelling/grammar error.
More info on the MS "Easter eggs" would be interesting.
I can’t even run Bonzi Buddy in a VM without repeated errors! And here you are installing Microsoft Office 3
You can get old 16 bit software to work on windows 10 - PROVIDED you are using a 32 bit version of the Windows 10 version of the operating system. I am running an old version of Wincake (Cakewalk for Windows) As I still think it is one of the best MIDI editors and Players out there.
The 2.x version for windows is available now. I installed it on my pc with wine vdm, and.. well it worked.
Wana hear something kind of cool? Microsoft made a phone answering software, called "Microsoft Phone". It was for voice modems back in Windows 95 days(creative labs offered it)... I did have it running a while ago on a early version of Windows 10. It uses TAPI in Windows, and it still worked perfectly for the most part.
It was a neat product back the day, I was the only person who had a menu driven phone setup, where It would send a page to me (back before cell phones and pagers were a thing), or to leave a message... Very cool software for it's day.. I do still have a copy of it..and it runs on newest Windows 10 but, I no longer have a modem or a phone line to test it...
You can open PowerPnt using the executable on the C drive.
Office 3.0 button styles looks good
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The overall theme looks good than win 95 - 2000 theming
After Windows 95, they started using the gray theme which I didn't like that much.
You don't need to open otvdmw.exe everytime. you can open 'install' or 'install (noconsole)' shortcut file and the you can open 16-bit programs directly from Windows just like modern programs.
Win32s applications should run on modern Windows. Leaked Win32s/WinG port of Doom (pre-Doom 95) runs perfectly on Windows 7, 8 and 10.
I am thinking it's Excel 95 that has that game... I could be wrong... Not really much of a game, it's a 3-D thing going through a room that has all the programmers listed... still cool to see...
How about running Windows Premiere Edition on Windows 10/or 7/or XP.
It may not work..
But i love your channel
Have you try to extract the OTVDM to root of your C or D drive, then run it from there to install POWERPNT and run EXCEL again?
I've also downloaded the older Office Versions from WinWorld, & so far the oldest version I'm able to run on my Windows Xp SP3 is Microsoft Word 2.0c from Office 3.0, have not tried the other programs within 3.0 yet.
I wondered if powerpoint installer crashed because you were running another OTVIDIM session with Excel at the same time of the installer. It is possible that Win.ini was OPEN during that session and could not write to it in another session (Installer)
Whats the song at the start
I cant find it on incompetech ?
Because i have no name... ?
Sorry for bad english
I guess the otvdm is saved ur customization from windows 1? 2 and 3 on windows 10 video))
10:40 You probably have to run setup as administrator or change system policy or something.
Wow and I thought running Office XP on my Windows 10 PC was going old school.
I never ran any of the Office suite at first when I was a kiddie. In home and my school used MS Works. It was also really good program. The software could using word processing then just easy to slaps in some diagrams or graph by putting any file or input numbers to make some diagrams on text document without starts another program. Doesn’t understand why Microsoft got rid off this and went over to Office suite.
MJD I love you did install older software for like Microsoft Office 3.0 but I wounder if Microsoft Office 4.3 can run on Windows 10.
Running otvdm from path containing only 8.3 names should help with all that .ini file thing.
Hi, I’ve downloaded a program from the win world site, six .img files. I can’t mount them or expand them with winrar or Izarc. How do I use them?
They are diskettes files. Im sure there is specific software that can open them oh and you can also mount them in a VM
@@Dawid8 Thanks for the quick response! It's been about five years, BUT it all started coming back to me, about IMG files. I purchased PowerISO and WinArchiver back then and I've reinstalled them.
@@bonaventura_AKA_ben No problem
I would like to see VisiCalc installed!
Hmm. Saw libwine in there. First time I have seen it in actual *use* :O.
I think you could install PowerPoint, I'll try and let you know
More like "Microsoft Office 3.0 on OTVDM" actually. But it looks daunting, yes.
I wonder why did it decide to run in black&white mode?
(this is evident with toolbar icons - win3.0-era apps had every icon hand-painted for monochrome, black&white, 16-color and 256-color modes)
"Apply" + "OK" - never die :D
*Steve Jobs has left the chat*
I'm going to try running King's Quest and Police Quest.
Cannot wait to try office 3.0 I am a Office 2013 user and want to try the different features a 3.0 to my office 2013 suite
Update to 11 minutes ago due to the fact my computer has a solid state drive word initialized and booted up with no issues
I am currently using Microsoft Office 97 on a windows 10 notebook.
Interesting, I might try OTVDM on my Windows 7 PC to see if it's a good alternative to DOSBOX, as Windows 7 (even a 32-bit version) isn't all that good with older 32/16-bit apps.
Try to go for stuff that integrates with the system to save the hustle of searching the file you want to open, for me ldntvdm does just fine for old game support.
@@ChromiaCat
Is there a VDM that works on 32-bit Windows? I installed a 32-bit version of Windows 7 expecting that the backwards compatibility was on par or slightly worse than XP, but it turned-out way worse to the point that switching to 64-bit would probably be no different apart from some 16-bit anti-piracy.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Try to do some research. There are ntvdm's that work on both x86/64 versions and others primary to one of them. If you can't come up with nothi ng, don't hesitate to come back here and tell me.
OMG I got Quattro Pro ver 6 working on Windows 10. Suddenly it's 1994 again.
Can you run Microsoft text to speech? I am curious if it’s possible to tell it apart from your voice!
Where is the link for downloading OTVDM?
really late but you could have used win10 32 bits and see how it behave with the official 16 bits ntvdm :p
also some notes; yes it is a repack and not the original and might wanna try running otvdmw as administrator and it probably would be able to do the rest of the operations it wanted
teh place we went too last knight was awesome
Mail is probably the old Outlook?
Yeah it could be, probably before they started calling it Outlook
Been using WinWorld for years lol good website
i'm sorry, but is there any software for we get the drivers ID's on Windows 98?
I tried to install Office 97 on Windows 10 64-bit... didn't work because the installer is partly 16-bit. Office 2000 works though.
That's because prior to the year 2000, Microsoft used Acme Setup for their installers, which is really a 16-bit executable, even if you're installing 32-bit software. In 2000 they came up with Windows Installer which is completely 32-bit and that's why it works in 64-bit Windows.
14:12 Modern word doesn't detect that too
A few months ago i tried Office 95 then 97 and they both ran fairly well... Clippy's revenge
I just realized Excel icon is X and L except for 2013-2018 version
Title: *Version 3.0*
Thumbnail: *Version 4.0a*
Haha yeah, the version of the office suite was 3.0 but since Excel was originally separated it is version 4.0a.
Michael MJD oh okay lol
Please make a video about office 4.3 running on windows 11
i tried it out Win Office 97 and higher works pritty fine on Windows 10 Pro / Home