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I met Carmen in Orlando in 2003. He sat at my bar with his wife. He called me around the bar and told me who he was. He was probably in his early 80’s then. Little guy with huge hands. He said “Hey kid, will you let this old man give you a punch?” I said sure. I’ve never been hit to hard in my life! I got his autograph that day. What a treat!
Carmen was a friend of mine. We attended a. number of parties and events together in and around Rochester, NY which is wheere he settled.. And he did still like to play fight and spar to show he still had it! Great fighter and good guy full of stories and jokes!
@@vince11harris Yes, racism was bad no question. But generally people treated each other far better. If you accidentally cut someone off in traffic you wouldn't be in the fight of your life. People now a days are fat, tattooed disgusting emotional recks.
Easy to see why Ray Robinson was held in such high esteem by all other boxers. The balance and style, mesmerizing! He fought on well into his forties and didn't end up with much in the way of financial gain. If he had been around today I'm sure it could have been a lot different.
Wow...! What a FANTASTIC fight...!! Thanks for making this, Legends of Boxing in Color...!!! Great sportsmanship and a fine display of skill from both fighters.
I was born in 1968 and never heard of Carmen Basilio until Gati vs. Ward 1 when people started talking about this fight above. There was no TH-cam so I only saw pictures. Amazing how this classic is preserved. Thanks to uploader.
So awesome--love watching these old fights. Was invited to go over to Basilio's house to see his trophy room years ago. Hall of Fame is in Canastota--where Basilio grew up. Great fight.
Forget about who won . 15 rounds is the championship distance. A welterweight beat a middle weight with brutal display of courage and stamina. Fights today pale in comparison. Carmine eeked it out in my opinion. The size difference is obvious. Hey Charlo and company watch and give boxing fans this action. Spence fight Crawford show me some balls . What made Ray was his competition. Fulmer, Giardello, ect. Tough!!!!!
@@ascendediam Perfect timing, foot movement, reflexes and motion… If I have to explain that to u, u clearly don’t know boxing. Also keep in mind that this wasn’t prime Robinson even still he was robbed in this fight.
WOW .THANK YOU SOO MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL GIFT. I WISH MY DAD COULD HAD SEEN THIS COLORIZED . WHAT A FIGHT. SHOWS LOADS OF HUMANITY AND RESPECT BETWEEN HTE TWO MEN. EVEN THOUGH RAY WAS NOT IN HIS PRIME HE CERTAINLY SHOWS WHAT HE WAS MADE OF. BASILIO , IN MY HUMBLE OPINION AN OVERVIEW CHAMPION NOT MUCH REMEMBERED TODAY BY THOSE HYPED COMMENTATORS . THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS UP
He was a technician who fought like a puncher. He was as much brawler as he was boxer. Ray fought with a short jab to setup looping bombs at midrange instead of long jabs typical of a tall fighter
Basilio was 7 pounds lighter and they always consider Robinson to be the best pound for pound I think Marciano is th best pound for pound. Met Basilio in Vegas . One of the nicest people I ever met
When Carmen beat Robinson, fight that I have Robinson winning, Robinson was fighting his 149th fight and he was still at the top. At his prime, nobody was better than him.
Great fight. I can't agree with the decision. I don't know how they scored rounds back then but Robinson landed countless jabs and I thought would get a unanimous decision. And many of those jabs were power punches in my view, not setup punches. Which isn't to say Basilio didn't fight a great fight. He did. A golden era. Respect.
Of course he was ripped off. Back then black fighters had to basically KO a white fighter to win. That’s literally why Robinson became such a devastating fighter he realized early on when the opponent was white he couldn’t simply out box em he had to DESTROY them.
Carmine took the play away. Notice the class of Robinson in defeat. These guys are the standard of boxing . WOW that was a great fight! David vs Goliath.
Carman said that 5 years before this fight he was walking with his wife in New York when a pink cadillac pulled up. Out stepped Sugar Ray and his entourage so Carmen thought he'd say hello. He walked up to Ray and said "Hi I'm Carman Bassilio, I just fought Billy Graham on television 📺 last week" Apparently Sugar gave him the brush off and Carman thought him to be arrogant and wanted to get Ray in the ring. 5 years later he beat Robinson. 2 different boxers and characters who served 2 slugfest wars for the M/W title. Also before this fight the 2 had never fought or sparred with each other. This was a true golden age of boxing
It was a lavender Cadillac. The only one in NYC. Everybody knew when Sugar Ray rode bye. I don’t believe he snubbed Basilio. He just wasn’t that kind of guy. I was a thirteen year old New Yorker at the time of this fight. Basillio was a slugger. Sugar Ray was a boxer.
@@charjohnson7150 wow respect. Just how good was Sugar Ray Robinson? Would he beat Mayweather? I've never spoken to anyone around in his time with all respect.
Even though anyone with eyes could see he actually won. Back then for a black guy to get a win over white guy he had to nearly kill his opponent and even still the crowd would actually lift the guy up off the ground and push him back into the ring. And if he was on his feet by the bell the white guy would still win.
I'm far from an authority on boxing but I am a fan and the names of champions usually at least ring a bell. I can't believe I never heard of Carmen Basilio till just now. And though he was in his twilight years in the ring I'm old enough to have seen Sugar Ray Robinson fight and remember him well so the association with Basilio should have crossed my purview at some point. Oh well, glad I happened across this video which prompted me to look up more about Basilio. One tough dude.
I still regard Sugar Ray as the greatest ever fighter. His problem/failure was that he spent his money faster than he earned it. He died broke. England, February, 2024.
Carmen, a great fighter. He fought this at 153 lbs., gave up a lot of reach and landed the more effective punches while walking down one of the greatest Middle weights ever. Bravo!
Inevitable comparisons to Jake LaMotta after watching this. Carmen was a bit smaller than Jake but also with a great chin and maybe a harder punch with both hands Carmen also with more speed and ring savvy and able to slip a lot more punches. A Basilio LaMotta fight somewhere around 1950 would have been something!
All the commenters passing judgement I believe Sugar Ray is 38 yrs old here.How did Ali,Holmes,Tyson,Holyfield,Ray Leonard,Joe Louis,Roy Jones look at 38 yrs old?
It's insane how exposed Sugar Ray Robinson is on the left side of his face, especially in the later rounds but it didn't hinder his greatness because he is who he is.
A shame they didn’t fight a third time…..by the way, in the fight with Ray where his eye was totally closed a reporter asked him if that affected the outcome…he said no, that his other eye was fine……he was not being funny….THAT was Basilio.
Ray's age of 37 can be arguably considered young by today's standards. But you have to remember these guys were fighting more than 10 times per year. I remember in his p4p documentary, Ray fought 3 times within 21 days. After suffering his first defeat against Lamotta, he fought Jackie Wilson and then rematching Jake again. From Feb 5, 1943 to Feb 26, 1943. That's insane. These fighters don't mind hand or other form of injuries.
Lemoyne College has an outdoor mass at the start of the school year. I went and sat behind an old man who I thought I should know. I think he had a walker. Then I realized it was Carmen Basilio. I would guess that was 15 years ago. He has since died.
I read that Carmen worked out so hard that his autopsy revealed four main arteries not three. He had developed a smaller vessell into a major artery according to the doctor. That is conditioning.
I remember seeing this bout on "Gillette's Friday Night Fights" on T.V. ! I was 7 years old and a big Robinson fan. Of course, I was very disappointed with the decision, but I think Robinson won the rematch !
In my book, the greatest boxer-puncher of all time vs one of the most viscous little fireplugs of all time. And by viscous, I don't necessarily mean dirty. Just that Basilio's punches were not designed to score points, but to bust you up and make you bleed.
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor Took awhile we will see, both haven't faced any competition like they will in this bout? They are nowhere near as rugged as these guys.
Never seen another fighter crouch down below his opponent's waist like that when he wanted to avoid purches. I wonder why, it seems to have been effective
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I met Carmen in Orlando in 2003. He sat at my bar with his wife. He called me around the bar and told me who he was. He was probably in his early 80’s then. Little guy with huge hands. He said “Hey kid, will you let this old man give you a punch?” I said sure. I’ve never been hit to hard in my life! I got his autograph that day. What a treat!
that’s my gpa , glad to hear a cool story of him like that :’)
@@5yr895 grandpa?
Why was he punching you?
@@ahmedgilani8646 just to show me how hard an old guy can punch
@@bhfromnh3914grandad in English
Carmen was my gym teacher at LeMoyne College in Syracuse, NY
back in the early '70s.
Nicest man you'd ever
want to meet. A champ
in every way ! 🥊
Carmen was a friend of mine. We attended a. number of parties and events together in and around Rochester, NY which is wheere he settled.. And he did still like to play fight and spar to show he still had it! Great fighter and good guy full of stories and jokes!
Great fight, between 2 of the greatest pound for pound fights of all time.
Robinson was 37 years old and still was moving like that.
yea hes probably my fave fighter of all time
Ummm. Look how much bigger he is
@@cd1168
Ummm They were both in the same weight class. Robinson was just taller.
@@cd1168 Huh? They fought in the same weight class
@cd1168 he's like Ali,tall for their weight at the time
The sportsmanship and respect between these two is really admirable.
Yeah. Really loved seeing it.
Other times, other fighters...
We don't have that now a days because people are disrespectful and full of pride and arrogance
@@johnreidy2804you acting like people was respectful then. This was during the height of Jim Crow 😂😂😂
@@vince11harris Yes, racism was bad no question. But generally people treated each other far better.
If you accidentally cut someone off in traffic you wouldn't be in the fight of your life. People now a days are fat, tattooed disgusting emotional recks.
I love how boxing hasn’t really changed that much. It’s a lot easier to watch old boxing than almost any other sport.
I met Carmen went he was in his 70’s.
We used to deer hunt near Penn Yan, ny with my father.
I enjoyed listening to his stories.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 right
Easy to see why Ray Robinson was held in such high esteem by all other boxers. The balance and style, mesmerizing! He fought on well into his forties and didn't end up with much in the way of financial gain. If he had been around today I'm sure it could have been a lot different.
He ended up broke because he squandered most of his earnings.
Tall, fast and the LONGEST reach for his height in the world.
Ray, the greatest ever. Carmen, great and tough.
Great channel.
Wow...!
What a FANTASTIC fight...!!
Thanks for making this, Legends of Boxing in Color...!!!
Great sportsmanship and a fine display of skill from both fighters.
Robinson had such beautiful style
The full fight version from 2 to 15.
th-cam.com/video/8Z92v3Tz-gE/w-d-xo.html
One of the greatest fights between 2 great fighters.
SUCH TENECITY...MARVELOUS
I was born in 1968 and never heard of Carmen Basilio until Gati vs. Ward 1 when people started talking about this fight above. There was no TH-cam so I only saw pictures. Amazing how this classic is preserved. Thanks to uploader.
So awesome--love watching these old fights. Was invited to go over to Basilio's house to see his trophy room years ago. Hall of Fame is in Canastota--where Basilio grew up. Great fight.
Forget about who won . 15 rounds is the championship distance. A welterweight beat a middle weight with brutal display of courage and stamina. Fights today pale in comparison. Carmine eeked it out in my opinion. The size difference is obvious. Hey Charlo and company watch and give boxing fans this action. Spence fight Crawford show me some balls . What made Ray was his competition. Fulmer, Giardello, ect. Tough!!!!!
Brilliant boxing times amazing great great fighters now sadly passed away I loved the ring announcer, brilliant with enthusiasm 👌👌
Brooklyn's Johnny Addie, "...from Madison Square Garden..."
Two years before I was born.
This is the closest we'll come to a time machine.
U are born in 1959?
Yes. Like I said.@@Ironmike312
Thanks for putting this together. Good job.
The Great years of Professional Boxing at it’s Best Pound for Pound 👑👊🏾🙏🏿👊🏾👑
Sugar Ray was a pugilist specialist. Basilio real tough fighter
These guys were as tough as they come.
Fighting more than once a month 😉
The training a day must be wild
Robinson moves like a dream. It looks like he’s floating in there.
@@ascendediam Perfect timing, foot movement, reflexes and motion… If I have to explain that to u, u clearly don’t know boxing. Also keep in mind that this wasn’t prime Robinson even still he was robbed in this fight.
Ali emulated Robinson, no doubt
@@truthreignsforever9286 Big time, Ali worshipped Sugar Ray Robinson and studied his fights. The REAL Sugar Ray.
That's why they called him "Poetry in Motion."
Ray Robinson, and later, Muhammad Ali? Those guys were moving in stereo.
WOW .THANK YOU SOO MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL GIFT. I WISH MY DAD COULD HAD SEEN THIS COLORIZED . WHAT A FIGHT. SHOWS LOADS OF HUMANITY AND RESPECT BETWEEN HTE TWO MEN. EVEN THOUGH RAY WAS NOT IN HIS PRIME HE CERTAINLY SHOWS WHAT HE WAS MADE OF. BASILIO , IN MY HUMBLE OPINION AN OVERVIEW CHAMPION NOT MUCH REMEMBERED TODAY BY THOSE HYPED COMMENTATORS . THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS UP
THANKS
What a tough little guy. 6 inches shorter 7 pounds lighter and still beats Sugar Ray!
Sugar Ray was a consummate ring technician. Such a master of the sweet science. This guy Carmen was no slouch either.
He was good but he ducked the Black Murders row
He was a technician who fought like a puncher. He was as much brawler as he was boxer. Ray fought with a short jab to setup looping bombs at midrange instead of long jabs typical of a tall fighter
The best work you've done - congrats
Thanks
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor i Love it been waiting for this Fight in Color!!!
@@purplebondsaiyan2987 nice to hear. more to come
Thanks for the video, LEGENDS OF BOXING IN COLOR
Beautiful quality upload in color thank you
The greatest fighter in history simple
Beautiful footage. topnotch boxing. Thank you for posting.
My pleasure
Video quality is fantastic. Well colourised as well. Keep em coming. Great job👍👍
Thanks a lot!
Basilio was 7 pounds lighter and they always consider Robinson to be the best pound for pound I think Marciano is th best pound for pound. Met Basilio in Vegas . One of the nicest people I ever met
No one but you makes Marciano p4p best😊
@@MrGdwellehaha I was like wtf haha
SRR was around 37 here.
When Carmen beat Robinson, fight that I have Robinson winning, Robinson was fighting his 149th fight and he was still at the top. At his prime, nobody was better than him.
Great fight. I can't agree with the decision. I don't know how they scored rounds back then but Robinson landed countless jabs and I thought would get a unanimous decision. And many of those jabs were power punches in my view, not setup punches. Which isn't to say Basilio didn't fight a great fight. He did. A golden era. Respect.
I don't know when they finally used the 10 point must,but yeah, Robinson seems winning here.
Anyone with a win over Robinson is GREAT.
Marciano! if went up 2 heavywt division
Basilio had two wins over Sugar ray.
From the mid '40's through the early '60s Al Berl and Ruby Goldstein refereed most of the title fights fought in New York.
I saw Basilio fight many times on tv with my Dad. Basilio was a very tough fighter.
The Greatest Vs the most Underrated
Sugar Ray Robinson Nr.1 👍🏻❤️
Hell off a fight basil game and rentless Robinson to have such handspeed at 37 marvellous.
One of the gamest Welter weight challengers And soon to be middleweight champ.
Beautiful jab
Great fight by two fine boxers!
Carmen took SR in this one! Two great fighters!
Gonna step in your shoes great uncle! May you rest on peace Uncle Carmen❤️
sugar ray got a chin! And power and composure so beautiful
Louis, Robinson and Leonard. Artists.
thats right, they are like painters. They paint on a canvas XD
Faut enlever leonard cest pas la meme classe quand meme
@@Ali-nw8iz Disons que c'est un artiste qui a son propre style
Robinson doesn't seem any better than Leonard to me
Louis & SRR a League above
We're not seeing the whole fight here, but from what we're seeing, I'm thinking Robinson was ripped off by the decision. It WAS a close fight, though.
Of course he was ripped off. Back then black fighters had to basically KO a white fighter to win. That’s literally why Robinson became such a devastating fighter he realized early on when the opponent was white he couldn’t simply out box em he had to DESTROY them.
The full fight version from 2 to 15.
th-cam.com/video/8Z92v3Tz-gE/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
Every time Robinson lost someone says he was "ripped off". All he did was jab and hold. What's so special about that?
Carmine took the play away. Notice the class of Robinson in defeat. These guys are the standard of boxing . WOW that was a great fight! David vs Goliath.
Carman said that 5 years before this fight he was walking with his wife in New York when a pink cadillac pulled up. Out stepped Sugar Ray and his entourage so Carmen thought he'd say hello. He walked up to Ray and said "Hi I'm Carman Bassilio, I just fought Billy Graham on television 📺 last week" Apparently Sugar gave him the brush off and Carman thought him to be arrogant and wanted to get Ray in the ring. 5 years later he beat Robinson. 2 different boxers and characters who served 2 slugfest wars for the M/W title. Also before this fight the 2 had never fought or sparred with each other. This was a true golden age of boxing
You could say Carmen MADE Ray respect him
It was a lavender Cadillac. The only one in NYC. Everybody knew when Sugar Ray rode bye. I don’t believe he snubbed Basilio. He just wasn’t that kind of guy. I was a thirteen year old New Yorker at the time of this fight. Basillio was a slugger. Sugar Ray was a boxer.
@@charjohnson7150 wow respect. Just how good was Sugar Ray Robinson? Would he beat Mayweather? I've never spoken to anyone around in his time with all respect.
Sugar ray took that L like a true gentleman
Even though anyone with eyes could see he actually won. Back then for a black guy to get a win over white guy he had to nearly kill his opponent and even still the crowd would actually lift the guy up off the ground and push him back into the ring. And if he was on his feet by the bell the white guy would still win.
There was no love lost between these two, but it never boiled over into a public spat.
I'm far from an authority on boxing but I am a fan and the names of champions usually at least ring a bell. I can't believe I never heard of Carmen Basilio till just now. And though he was in his twilight years in the ring I'm old enough to have seen Sugar Ray Robinson fight and remember him well so the association with Basilio should have crossed my purview at some point. Oh well, glad I happened across this video which prompted me to look up more about Basilio. One tough dude.
They are shizzled to the core ! Like statues
One of my dream fights would be Sugar Ray vs, Haggler in their primes.
Robinson is BOXING .
Oh Dios mio,que obra de arte.Asombroso.Muchas gracias.
I still regard Sugar Ray as the greatest ever fighter. His problem/failure was that he spent his money faster than he earned it. He died broke. England, February, 2024.
The synced audio isn't synced! You hear the punches 2 seconds before they land, the bell goes 2 seconds before the referee breaks them.
Basilio was a tough little bastard! He never would have beaten Robinson in his prime.
Good job 💪👍
15 rounds must come back. Fights are not the same. These men are true Champions.
Carmen, a great fighter. He fought this at 153 lbs., gave up a lot of reach and landed the more effective punches while walking down one of the greatest Middle weights ever. Bravo!
Inevitable comparisons to Jake LaMotta after watching this. Carmen was a bit smaller than Jake but also with a great chin and maybe a harder punch with both hands Carmen also with more speed and ring savvy and able to slip a lot more punches. A Basilio LaMotta fight somewhere around 1950 would have been something!
All the commenters passing judgement I believe Sugar Ray is 38 yrs old here.How did Ali,Holmes,Tyson,Holyfield,Ray Leonard,Joe Louis,Roy Jones look at 38 yrs old?
Sugar Ray Robinson, the best pound for pound fighter in boxing history. He held multiple weight titles.
Carmen basillo un sacre combat avec sugar ray robinson
It's insane how exposed Sugar Ray Robinson is on the left side of his face, especially in the later rounds but it didn't hinder his greatness because he is who he is.
Basilio,LO AMO!!!
Basilio inmy book one of the all time greats
Basilio Very Great!
A shame they didn’t fight a third time…..by the way, in the fight with Ray where his eye was totally closed a reporter asked him if that affected the outcome…he said no, that his other eye was fine……he was not being funny….THAT was Basilio.
Tried to find the whole fight?
Looked to me like Sugar Ray had it. With no doubt.
Ray's age of 37 can be arguably considered young by today's standards. But you have to remember these guys were fighting more than 10 times per year.
I remember in his p4p documentary, Ray fought 3 times within 21 days. After suffering his first defeat against Lamotta, he fought Jackie Wilson and then rematching Jake again. From Feb 5, 1943 to Feb 26, 1943. That's insane.
These fighters don't mind hand or other form of injuries.
Шикарная техника для того времени! Легенда
Lemoyne College has an outdoor mass at the start of the school year. I went and sat behind an old man who I thought I should know. I think he had a walker. Then I realized it was Carmen Basilio. I would guess that was 15 years ago. He has since died.
Does anybody know Robinson's height, he looks tall
Sugar Ray Robinson best fighter ever
Basilio was tough, in fact one of the toughest. Robinson was one of the most skilled boxer.
I read that Carmen worked out so hard that his autopsy revealed four main arteries not three. He had developed a smaller vessell into a major artery according to the doctor. That is conditioning.
Those were men!
Looks like that had Basilio all "Juiced Up"
The full fight version from 2 to 15.
th-cam.com/video/8Z92v3Tz-gE/w-d-xo.html
I remember seeing this bout on "Gillette's Friday Night Fights" on T.V. ! I was 7 years old and a big Robinson fan. Of course, I was very disappointed with the decision, but I think Robinson won the rematch !
Super fight ! I hated a fighter that just kept coming, like Carmen, no breather, to decide how to slow or stop him 😁 Tough men, both !
Robinson was 37 and had a lot of fights . Pound for pound the greatest .😇
Looks like Marciano learned to emulate Carmen? And Ali learned to emulate Robinson?
Ah, but Rocky came before Carmen
But Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest of all
@@yaderblen2890 But, no he is not
No Marciano is at the end here other way around doosh.
Yes he is!@@romanboxing3959
In my book, the greatest boxer-puncher of all time vs
one of the most viscous little fireplugs of all time.
And by viscous, I don't necessarily mean dirty.
Just that Basilio's punches were not designed to score points,
but to bust you up and make you bleed.
Notice end of rd 8. Bell rings. Ray keeps his hands up till he is sure Basilio is going to his corner.
Good eye. Smart thing to do
Wow, Bailiso weighted in as a 154 lbers.
Basilio looks like De Niro as Jake La Motta.
Real boxers, not like these prima donas today.
What u think of crawford or spence?
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor Took awhile we will see, both haven't faced any competition like they will in this bout? They are nowhere near as rugged as these guys.
This is just highlights?
Es como ver a muhamad Alí pero en pequeño.
Se nota que Alí se inspiró en el
Never seen another fighter crouch down below his opponent's waist like that when he wanted to avoid purches. I wonder why, it seems to have been effective
Marciano did it routinely
Can't even imagine the damage Lamotta would have given anybody back then with 5inches more reach.
Sugar droppong the elbows to block those body shot..
15 years old Muhammad Ali mustve been somewhere watching this fight with full of awe
My brother went hunting with Carmen ... said he was a super nice guy.