The Political Stakes Of Trump's First Trial | FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast

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  • Monday marked the start of the first-ever criminal trial of a former president. The case - one of potentially four trials facing former President Donald Trump - revolves around alleged hush money payments made to Stormy Daniels to try to conceal damaging information during the 2016 election. In this installment of the 538 Politics podcast, the crew looks at the political stakes of the case and how they compare to Trump's other legal liability. They also discuss how Republicans are positioning themselves on Arizona's unpopular 1864-era abortion ban and debate whether the latest campaign fundraising data actually says anything about the competitiveness of the presidential candidates.
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  • @fivethirtyeight
    @fivethirtyeight  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @aubrey9048
    @aubrey9048 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    it's very cool to see former regulars like Amelia making guest appearances like this

  • @CB38096
    @CB38096 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just like they used to chant for Hilary!🥰🤣
    LOCK HIM UP!
    LOCK HIM UP!
    LOCK HIM UP!

  • @ajschramm3573
    @ajschramm3573 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love seeing Amelia make a comeback!

  • @MarilenaVazquez
    @MarilenaVazquez 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love Five Thirty Eight and this story. I hope Trump goes straight to jail. Imagine if any of us did this, we would be in jail today. What goes around comes around.

  • @RicJoJo
    @RicJoJo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Welcome back, Amelia!

  • @ccbowers
    @ccbowers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It seems like people are assuming illegal is worse than unethical (them not being mutually exclusive aside), I have the opposite preference. Unethical behavior is a much bigger problem for people in positions of power.

  • @user-kh6es2cw9l
    @user-kh6es2cw9l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love your podcast. Thank you for postings ❤❤.

  • @DrewDienno
    @DrewDienno 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No matter how this or any trial shakes out, he has his numbers set in firm concrete. No moving that voter block

  • @chrishintz1077
    @chrishintz1077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They hoisted roe onto their own petard. So lovely to see the inevitable blowback. The 50 year plan to overturn roe has unleashed a dragon they can’t control. It’s glorious.

  • @nroose
    @nroose 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like you left out the whole prison thing. Conviction would have one effect. And that may not be big. But prison would likely have another effect, and I would think a bigger effect. And that against the backdrop of losing in the supreme court on immunity and maybe having some properties seized. Seems like it could all together have a significant effect.

  • @refuge42
    @refuge42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 30 minutes into this podcast and I have yet to hear the word insurrection, I will Wade through the rest of it but be very disappointed if they manage to ignore the obvious.😮

  • @genevieveweston671
    @genevieveweston671 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    An abortion initiative on the ballot may bring young people to the polls who are not excited about either main party presidential candidate

  • @arun279
    @arun279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:11 but which small part, if it moves a small part of independent voters in California it won’t matter electorally

    • @spike9653
      @spike9653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      maybe not for presidential, but these things still matter for houses and senate races for example (moreso house races for your California example). If sufficient numbers of independents in California shift based on this, that could determine the size and strength of a republican house majority which as we have seen this term can matter massively with regards to shutdowns debt ceilings and speaker removals

  • @knrranch1910
    @knrranch1910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What matters is that the Trump trials have begun and they will continue for years.

    • @YoshiYosheda
      @YoshiYosheda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not if his found guilty in his current trial.

  • @Icarys_
    @Icarys_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just want to say Geoffrey’s monstera has made me so jealous. That thing is thriving.

  • @jamesodonoghue
    @jamesodonoghue 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When did TJ Miller become a political pundit?

  • @realCyng
    @realCyng 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to know who thought the direct election of prosecutors was a good idea.

    • @daraorourke5798
      @daraorourke5798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Irish here. That does seem a little odd. At least you don't elect the jurors!

  • @neilhales4693
    @neilhales4693 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And we wouldn't need abortion laws either!

  • @jemimaunicorn6446
    @jemimaunicorn6446 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The turnout issue you are missing is young voters with Gaza as a big issue. I suspect some would stay at home in protest but abortion on the ballot will bring them out. The key question is how many of them are there.

    • @RobRoss
      @RobRoss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hopefully they realize that “Gaza”, although an important issue, is not as immediately relevant to their lives the way the abortion issue is.

    • @dionbaillargeon4899
      @dionbaillargeon4899 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Young voters staying home over Gaza and allowing Trump, Netanyahu's best ally, become president would be the most idiotic move since they stayed home in 2016 and allowed Roe vs Wade be overturned.

  • @jeanneiisydw6596
    @jeanneiisydw6596 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People. who arn't weighing their options this early in the game are too shallow to vote. Not

  • @markaisenberg6641
    @markaisenberg6641 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All. They. Talk about. Is. Abortion. Sigh.

  • @1848revolt
    @1848revolt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Anyone with a brain can see this is a political hit job.

    • @Alexis-lt3zy
      @Alexis-lt3zy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Well, let's hope the 12 jurors have brains!

    • @1848revolt
      @1848revolt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Alexis-lt3zy yeah I don't like Trump but this is ridiculous.

    • @Alexis-lt3zy
      @Alexis-lt3zy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1848revolt do you think there is ever a legitimate way to prosecute a political official? Would it be proper for prosecutors to go after Biden if he potentially committed crimes?

    • @ckq
      @ckq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bot lmao

    • @1848revolt
      @1848revolt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ckqso if anyone says something you don't like it's a bot. Gotcha.