Refurbish This! Commodore 64 2/2 - Clean, New Case & Finale | see description
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🍟 ON TODAY'S MENU: In the second part of my Commodore 64 refurbishment and restoration, I finish the job by cleaning the C64 keyboard & unboxing then adding the new (old) C64C case made from the original molds!
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Thanks for watching! How do you think the finished product looks? Do you like the case? Do the injection marks bother you? Let me know below!
Very sexy. It is an amazing time for us classic gaming/computing fans. So many awesome products coming out. Excellent channel and projects. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much. That means a lot. Welcome to the channel! 👍🕹️
The injection marks did bother me, but otherwise I liked the case color. I noticed you left off the rubber feet. Did you consider transferring the label from the bottom of the old case? I've seen replacement labels you can just type in the correct information on.
I did put them on after. That's interesting, where do you get those labels? 👍🕹️
It's a C64C label, but maybe he can custom make you a C64 label? shop.pixelwizard.eu/en/sticker/52/c64c-serial-number-sticker?c=20
I can't believe I've only just found this video. It looks completely brand new, and that circuit board refurb is an incredible job. My word how the set has changed in just 2 short years.
Actually, make that 3 short(ish) years.
Finally got around to watching this! The SX-64 style looks beautiful indeed. I have to admit I googled where the keyboard standoff thingies go, too, when I used one of the new cases. Thanks for the "faceless hands" homage and keep the entertaining videos coming! :)
+Jan Beta Haha thank you sir and I will do!
I'm hoping this starts off a new global internet meme, of Jan Beta 'faceless hands' homages.
Case looked great and really liked how you cleaned the keyboard without removing any keys!
Really amazing !! I never thought that this combination looks quite good. I´ll do the same now too and replace the white (less yellowed...) Keyboard with an early C64-Keyboard in my sx64 style case. Thank you for this video !
Wow, that's amazing!
Thank you so much! 👍🕹️
Catching up on all your older stuff... and it is amazing! Btw. very good impression of Mr. Beta :D
Haha thanks! 😂👍🕹️
Turned out great!... .You know what would be sick, a clear plastic top case that shows off the interior of the mainboard, and all the polished up RF Shields, and perhaps even some soft glow LED strip lights for some added visual pizzazz. :-) You could even get the RF shields and other components chromed (like a car bumper) for some real eye popping style!
I agree, but the prices for those are nuts on eBay 😟
Oh wow.. yeah.. just found them.. SO cool. :-) This is making me seriously want to bust out my C64. I probably wouldn't take my actual C64 apart however, it's mint.
My C64c is orange and one of my VIC-20's are blue
Ooh nice! 👍🕹️
Well, I don't think the new case is nicer. Nor do I believe that this was a very professional assembly. Still I liked watching how you proceeded and how the C64 would look at the end. And your soothing voice was a nice companion. :) Thanks for the video.
Alcohol on the key surfaces - be cautious as you probably figured. I have wiped off particularly the f2, f4 (side numbers) in the past. Just sharing no criticism - great videos !
this is nice, the new case gives a sense of wondering. the wondering of making your own c64. kinda.
True!
omg ... that looks great ! ,i need a c64 to tinker with all this great stuff
Thank you! eBay is your friend 👍🕹️
Another nice video. I agree with Jan Beta, the SX-64 style colour combo is beautiful. It goes without saying, be sure to preserve that original breadbin case -- it's immaculate. I didn't realize you have a ceramic VIC-II hiding under that heatsink -- another chip to baby. Also, I have to say, I really like your retro computer desk area with the wall cubby shelves -- very tidy!
MindFlareRetro Thank you! I'll treasure it all for you.
The brown function keys do look a little funky on this case, but apart from that, great!
Great video man , and the case is awesome !!! thanks Jan Beta !! lol ..
you removed the bottom shield and card board protection. any problem with the keyboard standoff shorting anything?
Good question. No problems or chance of that as the case is plastic and there's nothing else in there. Unless I dropped a screw.
I'm guessing the isopropyl alcohol has to be missed with water? I tried with the un-diluted product and it took the programming symbols off the front of the keys. What ratio of alcohol to water should I have used please?
You and should work on a video with 8-Bit-Guy.
It's funny you mention that... 🤐😉😉
I'm surprised you didn't use tantalums for all the 10uF's.. or replace the 78xx TO-220's with 78SR's.
I've always wanted to get one of those new cases for my very yellow 64C but I'm not very confident with taking stuff apart and fiddling around with it, but your video has made the process a little less daunting, so maybe I'll do it one day. In other unrelated news, you look EXACTLY like someone I know which is eerie! :O
That means a lot to me; I want to encourage others so thanks for sharing.
Feel free to also share a photo of who you know that looks like me! You can reach me via the social media links in the description 👍🕹️
Freaky awesome work! But did'nt you want to install the blue rectangle power lit?
have you forget the led on the left side?
Well spotted, this actually arrived a little later but it's in there now. You can see it in my first Music Maker Refurb video 🕹️👍
That black case is a thing of desire! But I feel unjustified in replacing the original cases of my old breadbin or my, admittedly yellowed, C64C. Can anyone provide a reasonable excuse for me to change over?
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Not a fan of the color variations and stripes on the plastic especially on the bottom half of that case. You did a nice job on the return though. Thanks for the great video. Cheers!
What is that trackball from?
It's actually a QuickShot "joyball" I got in my teens! Kinda fun. 👍🕹️
I got my C64 in Xmas 1983, too. If you're the same age as me, you've managed to hold on to your looks better than I did. Hair, ditto.
Amazing what lighting and a wig can do! 😉 Thank you though. We probably are the same age. I'm 84. Seriously though, isn't it fun reliving those memories and reviving the very same machines for the next 30 years.
I liked my old 1989 C64C case, is still beautiful white and the keyboard. But my C64 PCB 250469 Rev A is dead. Got now the black C64 Reloaded MK2 board from Individual Computers. Old outside and new inside.
You got a nice black C64C case.
Johan den Hertog you've done the opposite to me! BTW, I do repairs 😉 See description.
Perifractic's Retro Recipes I have repair my old AMIGA 500 Revision 5 with the ECS 8372A Fat Angus upgrade, kickstart 3.1 upgrade and re-capped the board en clean it. Got also the A501 Revision 6C, clean it and have no battery leakage. Got in the Zorro II slot a ACA500plus and the ACA1221ec. And changes the caps in my beautiful white Commodore 1084S-P1 monitor. Repair the AMIGA Tank mouse and is also beautiful white. A have build a ATX power supply for it.
Next week,, i repair my old AMIGA 1200 and repair today my Neo Geo AES. Have repairs alot off Pinballs in the past.
Awe, no ee-oo-ee-oos. I love laughing hysterically at them until I can't breath.
It's weird seeing screwdriver action without Ladyfractic's screwdriver sounds
Congratulations on hunting down some pre-EE-OO content!
Nice work dude. Some folks think it's sacrilege to do this, but as long as the innards remain the same you could always return it to an original case. Makes it unique (ish!) too.
(BTW I sent you a DM on here a while back)
Phil Underhill I know, but technically this is a Commodore case from the Commodore molds. If anyone tells me that, I'll just ask them what's wrong with extending the life of and increasing the interest in these beautiful machines 😁
P.S. I replied to your DM but TH-cam is absolutely terrible about notifying anyone.
Yeah some do but for me the C64C case and really, the 64C, I liked typing on so much more then the original model. I always liked the look of the 128 and 64C back in the day.
Racer X Me too dude. I owned the breadbin as a kid and loved it. But my friend had a C64C and much preferred that shape. Still do to this day.
Clicked like for Jan Beta impersonation 😄 Good vid too 👍
What's the maximum diameter of 2200uF capacitor that fits under the keyboard holder?
I love your vids. I love listening to your voice. By the way, in the video, the subtitles say "its like 1993 all over again" at around 1:25. your words are "its like 1983..."
Thank you!
I almost died when you said this is Jan Beta.
jdryyz Bahaha!
The keyboard supports are 3D printed plastic, rather than metal... right? That way the one on the Left won't short the bottom of the board if it moves. Nice color!
Correct! Thanks! 👍🕹️
It'd be nice to see that blue rectangular LED you kept talking about in this video :)
Check out my music Maker playlist as it makes a comeback there!
There are Commadore 128 comments
Yeah nice vid and well done but I'm not convinced its better than the original case.
bad mod...short PCB's should be used instread, while big PCB's should stay in breadbin cases!
But why?
Perifractic's Retro Recipes thats a hard question to answere. Ive thought about it and have to say personal taste. i like retro computers to be as authentic as possible. its still a nice job you did... just not better IMHO. THANKS
Yes, those injection marks bother me
Why the new case needs some new stuff if it came off the same mold
I dunno, I didn't expect to see a lot of screwing.
The case costs up to 119 POUNDS! That a lot of money!
It sure is. It's sort of like buying a diamond necklace for your favorite wife...
You need heat sinks on major chips. Vic, Sid, etc.... please use heatsinks. Make the chips last a 100 years.
It does
My idea to modernize it would be to make a custom pcb and make it as small as possible
Raspberry Pi with emulator... ;-)
yeah but if you keep the original chips just custom pcb is way cooler then raspberry pi because it has been done so many times
Oh, I see what you are saying.. yeah, that would be rather cool. However, I guess you'd have to have the original schematics and etch your own board? That would be a beast project for sure.
Something like this perhaps! icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/c64-reloaded-mk2.html
Perifractic's Retro Recipes OH man... Ok, this might just have to be combined with the case from the video. Amazing!!!! I guess I better dig my C64 out of storage. :-)
You're cheating on the keyboard cleaning, get all those caps off and then all the screws on the back and clean it properly. ;-)
e5frog Haven't you seen enough videos about that? 😉 In all seriousness though, there's the chance of losing a spring or breaking something so the old adage is true. It wasn't broke.
Sure, I've done it a few times as well - so that's why I think you're making it too easy for yourself. ;-)
Hi!
If you're not interested in the old box, maybe I can be!
Mine is in very bad shape.
Great video, continue with the good work! ;)
Naparovitse Thank you for your kind words! I'm going to hang onto it for now as a piece of history, but I'll let you know if that changes.
Ok, thanks! ;)
Careful with alcohol, I have wiped the symbols off keys using it :-(
My name is Perifractic and I am a cleaning alcoholic. But yes, just a light wipe. Good advice! 👍
i want the old case i have one that has a bad crack in it that needs a new shell
Pimp my c64!
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What audio processing do you do on your videos because there's always a lot of compression swishiness and strange echoes going on.
These were earlier videos but things improved 😊
Nice build. I would have chose the same SX64 color case as you did. But man I really don't like those artifacts on the bottom case. Well at least it is on the bottom. I have one of the earlier transparent clear "Dallas" cases and it does not have any of those artifacts. It is sitting on my shelf pretty much unused, other then it has a reloaded board in it and brown keys, which looks funny. I am still waiting on the Blue translucent key caps from the seemingly scammers on indiegogo. Hopefully they make good so I can finish the build finally.
Racer X I'm glad you like it. I don't know why they don't bother me. The ones at the back you never see. But it's all that's available so I guess we have to be thankful anyone is still making parts for thirty five year old machines you know? 😁
Personally, I wouldn't have changed the case. I'm used to the old breadbin Commodore 64s. I grew up with a Silver Label machine, with all the accompanying sparkle problems early models had.
Needs HDMI.
You'll be pleased to know it is now output through the XRGB Mini 👍
Considering the cost of that case, I would have to agree with others that say the swirling effect in the case is not really acceptable. It looks like the plastic wasn't at the right temperature when it was injected.
Whilst I understand what you're saying, what other options do we have 30 years after the molds they used were supposedly dumped and the company went bankrupt? Beggars can't be choosers. I think it's incredible we even have these as an option. And it is just an option. 👍🕹️
why use 60fps? youtube can not display your 60fps video in HD30fps. only way to display 30fps is to make it 480p. not everyone can play 60fps. my older mac mini can not play 60fps. also 60 fps uses addition bandwidth without additional effect on quality, it's really unnecessary to make a regular video 60fps. basically you're talking and showing things, 60fps has no effect on anything. wtf? the only advantage of 60fps is maybe in sports such as soccer or hockey or football, when you see lots of players and lost of action, then even 4k has advantage but other than that it's unnecessary. this is almost like forced obsolescence, i don't need to watch your video in 60fps :-( please be considerate of others. you don't have to force me to something totally unnecessary. 30fps HD is good enough already...
Thanks for your reply. Is this video in 60fps? I was not aware. I appreciate your feedback. Please be assured I am not "forcing you" to watch this at all ;)
Perifractic's Retro Recipes, thnx for replying. When you say "i'm not forcing you" if you're like "it wasn't intentional" then it's ok, but if you're like "you don't have to watch it" then believe me i'm forced to choose between either not watching your channel again or to watch it in SD which feels like i'm being unnecessarily punished for not buying a new computer which can play 60fps. Even if i buy a new pc, i still wouldn't be able to experience the unnecessary 60 fps because i would still have to change my projector with 3.5m diagonal screen. i'm writing this so you can consider people who and how have this 60fps issue. When or if i upgrade my setup ( htpc, display, amplifier etc) to 4k, then 60fps might have an advantage for games or sports. i'm not into sports and i like to play with my bintage stuff like c64s (they are not 60fps) you see, 60fps in HD is totally useless and unnecessary. it's almost like watching SD in 60fps. Original HDTV standard included 60fps but no one in the industry implemented it. Such as tv broadcasters and equipment manufacturers. Now since mobile equipment can do >HD and 60fps, it's just irresponsible to make 60fps HD youtube videos. There is simply no point to it. Well, can youtube play the same 4k video in 60fps and hd in 30fps, i don't know but most of the 4k videos in youtube are in 30fps and i can watch them in HD so i wouldn't know. Just check what other youtubers are doing. But ofcouse, i'm not forcing you to do anything ;-)
Tonguç Endem Hmm. I export the video in iMovie selecting (1080p) then upload to TH-cam. Nowhere do I see an option about 60fps. Any ideas how I can avoid this or is it just the standard now...
as i've explained before the HDTV standard included 60fps but no one used it so it's not a new standard it's a very old standard from around year 2000. probably your new phone can capture at high frame rate and probably it's manufacturer wants you to use needlessly twice as much storage space and more needless strain on your device. imovie i believe removed the ability to control in detail your export format in the last version so it's part of that forced obsolescense thing :-) it's a basic consumer level app... just torrent a proper editor. also i'm amazed that how you can not shoot your videos at standard 30fps 1080p, is it apple?
you see, high frame rate is good if you're going to do a slow-motion clip like when you're jumping into water etc but other than that it's just strain on your cpu, electric bill, battery, internet usage, bandwith, storage space etc etc there really is no real reason to use it unless only if you're using default settings and some company is after forced obsolescence. plus there's the issue of youtube viewers not being able to play 60fps HD videos. devices that can play 4K or higher can play 60fps but it was never a requirement for devices that can play regular old 1080p HD blurays. So the standard now in the sense of general usage is that it's very normal for HD but non 4K, 5k or 8k devices to be only able to only play upto 30fps@1080p. with devices such as blurays or over-the-air or cable HDTV receivers, you would never ever ever experience a 60fps content. So that's standard for you. with 4K, 5k or 8k content, 60fps is somewhat more acceptable since devices that can play those high resolutions play at speeds such as 60fps. youtube basically added 60fps for 4k and higher resolutions. So, if you make a 1080p 60fps video, you're pretty much making a non-standard video :-) there are some videos on youtube creating a hype about 60fps for trend whores but just disregard them. if you take control of things like your camera's and editor's capture/export settings, you'll see there is no real need for 60fps with 720 or 1080.
look, the reality is that watching your video in 480p@30fps did not make much difference, well maybe i can not distinguish each and every hair on your head separately but other than that it's watchable as same as if it were 8k @ 160fps :-) I just see it as not properly done, that's all. To me it's very similar to videos with bad audio or shaky camera or bad light control etc etc... so basically it's just bad encoding :-)
Tonguç Endem I shoot on a Note8. I note that my other videos are not 60fps. I'm suspecting an iMovie export glitch. I'm glad 480p worked for you. I hope you enjoy my other videos.
I'm guessing the isopropyl alcohol has to be missed with water? I tried with the un-diluted product and it took the programming symbols off the front of the keys. What ratio of alcohol to water should I have used please?
I don't dilute but I do go easy. Just a light wipe, don't rub hard or much. Sorry that happened.
Great, thanks for the tip. :-)