THE C64 Mini inside a Commodore 64
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🍟 ON TODAY'S MENU: In a word, INC64PTION™. One of the downsides of a fun device called "THEC64 Mini" is that the keyboard is a bit of a dummy. So I wondered if I could use the real Commodore 64 keyboard to give it full functionality, just like the original. But, as this is Retro Recipes: 'Retro with a Twist', I wanted to go further and actually see if I could install the entire C64 Mini inside the real Commodore 64 case, keyboard, original 80s Speedking joystick and all, using a Keyrah v2b! Sort of Russian Nesting Commodores. Let's find out if it works, and how you can WIN the signed machine worldwide, including the case, the keyboard, Keyrah and the USB joystick... Let me know what you think in the comments!
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Couldn’t stop laughing when he brought out the “C64 Inside” sticker! Awesomeness!
That's one calming voice you got there!
Amazing work, subscribed after watching this. Such a therapeutic way to present your content, unlike a lot of TH-cam videos that are in your face. Looking forward to going through your older videos and your future stuff. Thank you again and keep it up
Thank you from the bottom of my retro heart! 👍🕹️
Thanks for watching! Do the perks of this new configuration (game save/load, HDMI, not needing to install RetroPie & ROMs etc.) intrigue you, or do you still prefer an original C64 like I think I do? Do ALL good things come in small packages? Comment below and cheerio! 👍🕹️
Good idea but I would have probably striped it out of the case anyway to extend the ports and glue extension sockets lined up with the back holes to not be stuck with wires permanently coming out of it
The point is the fun of the fact they look the same which seemed fun and many people own the Mini, don't want to mess around with installing RetroPie, they like the Mini launcher, and could do this themselves. Thanks for watching.
I mention in the video I wanted someone to one day open this "C64" and find the baby C64 as a surprise inside. It's not Russian nesting dolls if it's just a skeleton 😉🕹️
Perifractic's Retro Recipes oh I agree on that based on the principle of this video but were I doing it for myself ....
You might enjoy my Apple PIIe video 😉👍🕹️
Since everyone is getting Bob Ross vibes from the videos, I suggest you say; "...and then beat the devil out of it" when you clean the soldering iron.
It' s a game called "Basic"..........LOL good one ; )
I couldn't figure out how to win. Not so BASIC after all.
Well done Peri, a good fun video as always :) Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the opportunity to win this unique set-up. I look forward to giving it to my sons if I am lucky enough to win.
Very cool!
Plastic welding saves the day!
I dont even know how it's possible, but your channel has managed to make me really want a Commodore 64. If I'm correct these things went out of production nearly a decade before I was born but they seem really cool in that 80's way.
Awesome. This is my plan exactly and your video answered all the questions I had regarding the C64mini and Keyrah. Thank you.
atariage.com/forums/topic/293650-i-duddits-c64-mini-to-full-size-conversion/
Russian nesting C64 would be a nice title.
Good Job Starfractic. I didn't think it would be as good a fit. Worked out great.
That's what she said?
Thanks X-Rater! 😂
Ahhh speed king joystick... that took me back instantly...
This is, without a doubt, my new favorite channel. I click your videos as fast as 8-Bit Guy videos. Thanks for the content!
That brings joy to my retro heart. Thank you ❣️🕹️
Chris,has anybody told you you're a Bob Ross of retrocomputing?
Only 14 people before you😂. You're officially #15! A happy little accident. 🕹️🎨
"Let's place this cute mini C64 inside a larger one, with a dab of glue here, a dab of glue there, maybe with a little birdie landing on the keyboard... there you have it folk, there!" ha-ha-ha ... RIP Bob Ross
Super cool :D Also I really like how you stage/perform these videos. Keep up the good work!
Of course I entered the contest. This funny little matryoshka thing is a relic no matter how "fake" it is :D
I appreciate that!
thats pretty cool dude, nice use of a spare case :)
It probably was a matter of time until someone came up with that idea.
I like your take on it!
Very nice!
It sure ended up being a dogs dinner with your original stick not working and the dogs trying to eat it. The AMIGO's Retro Gaming's John and Aaron would have loved that quote.
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Several thousand years ago, aliens land on earth. They determine that this particular artifact is from the early stages of computing on this planet. Then they open it up to see how it works, and are absolutely bewildered by the miniature version of this machine within the machine itself. They determine that this must somehow be important, but do not know why...
Then, they crack open the planet, find the massive iron core within, and everything makes sense...
another great episode, keep em coming mate, I know how long it must take you but they are excellento !! :)
Thank you! 😓👍🕹️
Great interesting Video, nicely explained the problems that you came across and your work arounds. Subscribed and liked 👍😊
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
This sort of reminds me of what The 8-Bit Guy's brother (The Geek Pub) did when he put a Raspberry Pi inside a C64.
Yup I was hanging out with David recently and we had a laugh about the timing. Great minds... And you can never have too many retro videos 😊🕹️
is that Davids brother :O
That looks amazing with some tweaks I’m thinking of doing this myself
Awesome video. Just got it suggested. Looking forward to seeing your other content. Thanks.
Thank you! 👍🕹️
Protips: use a small pair of cutting pliers and you'll never break off the wrong number of header pins. There's a groove the pliers will fit into. Use a solder glob on ONE pin to hold the header in, preferably not the one you're touching. Ouch. Straighten it with the solder hot. Release, and do the others. No putty on your pins either.
Amazing work! Love it! Subbed recently based on all the great content... Thanks!
Cheers! 👍🕹️
The C64 came in many different shades of grey to brown, so the mini has one of the correct colours.
Man! Your voice is amazing ! and his channel on YT is THE BEST!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
Took you to 1k likes ;) Great project, might give this a go myself
Amusing and informative as always.
An interesting project and fun to watch. Thanks for a great video!
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
8:21 did you try flipping the c64 mini?
"the jan beta" voice made me happy!
Fun video as always Chris.
1:14 that sound effect 😂
hi you know what you did with the solder iron i had a tascam 38 shipped to me the back was in 4 parts so i did what you did. i mixed in more ploy
in with the back parts ad used a file and put more brown over where i sanded down the fix never ship tascam 38
You successfully evolved C64 mini to C64 maxi!
Oh wait... C64 maxi actually exists.
Yeah but we did it first ;-)
@@RetroRecipes Didn't notice, but cool idea.
Feels like there's an immense amount of work behind each of these videos
Thank you for noticing 😉🕹️
Very nice idea. At the moment, I am mounting a raspberry pi in a C64 with a keyrah. Hope it will work as I expect. Keep on that nice work, Perifractic, I really enjoy your videos! C64 forever! - Still love to listen to your C64 tunes. When will we get some more of your great music?
Thank you so much! More tunes soon when I stop coming up with other ideas! 👍🕹️
Amazing idea. Those SFX are top drawer.
I was thinking the same thing to try once the US version was released. I purchased a complete C64c setup including the 1541 II drive which was my first computer. I will use the SD drive though for software but will still get the mini. I have had a devil of a time getting Svideo and Composite to work on a TV I have and at this point I believe the TV is the issue. Good job on the conversion!
Imagine this was sent back in time, and someone got confused about how light this C64 is, opened it up and found the mini C64 inside
"whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?"
Love your little helpers!
This is some awesome idea and project :D
Thank you from the bottom of my retro heart ❣️🕹️
THE JOY OF MODDING! :-)
I really want them to release an update for keyrah support now. Very nice video :)
Thanks! Me too! 👍🕹️
Neat. I hope they add full support for the Keyrah to the c64 mini.
This is great sir. Subbed.
Welcome to the channel! 👍🕹️
Awesome video bro!
Great job looks great
Cheers from Japan! Although not BIG C64 here is very interesting part of game history and I love try one a day! ^^
Wait so how was it possible for the full size commedore 64 keyboard able to to work with the c64 mini with bassic did it also work with the bult in games that use the keyboard
Yo dawg we herd you like C64s, so we put a C64 in your C64
I was completely glued to the screen watching this.
man, you are so calm..
That Konix joystick(I thought it was made by Epyx?!) was my favorite, ergonomic and performed flawlessly. Was a bit clicky but I didn't mind that.
Beautiful
Can you use an Atari D9 to USB interface with the C64mini motherboard/Linux system? I don't think it works which makes the best way still to use a very small and fanless x86 board + XP + WinVICE the best option still.
It's so cute and adorable!
I loved Nodes of Yesod, frustrating though it was. Me an my friends charted the whole planet (which is surprisingly big) in order to be able to find our way around. Good times!
I realy like the idea of re using parts and restore parts in realy bad condition. (i realy like all the videos by the way, but those restoring and re using are my personal favorites)
That "maxi-mini" naming makes me think of some models of the present day BMW MINI car range. How ridiculous is the "Mini" name on them?
Good job. First thing I thought when they announced the mini was of doing this. I'm sure a lot of people with busted/burned out C64s thought the same. Also, been like 30 years since I've thought of Uridium. Awesome game. Great memories!
Great minds... 👍🕹️
Awesome project indeed. I learned how to use a computer with a c-64.
commodorception... beautiful
C64 inside a C64? C64CEPTION!!!!!
INC64PTION™
Russian nesting Commodores. Also, C64 inside
They would need to bump up the chip count on the peripheral board to make it show up as 3 separate USB devices (a keyboard and 2 game controllers). You could get around this by hand wiring 2 C64-USB adapters into the ports and fitting an USB hub inside.
Daddy, how does my computer work ??? -> Well, boy, inside the computer is a smaller computer that does all the work... -> Thanks dad! that explains everything ;)
Brilliant! 👍🕹️
Wait, how does THAT computer work!
Well, boy, the smaller computer has an even smaller computer in it that does all the work, the raspberry pi!!! ;)
Brilliant!!
Wait... oh never mind, let's have some pie! 🍮
It's a shame I'm late on seeing this. I would have liked to win this.
I wonder what the mini sends when you move the stock joystick, when redefining the keys, if anything. Maybe the keyrah could defined to those keys for a "normal" joystick?
It sends predefined keys that you see in the video, but they can't be changed... Yet. 👍🕹️
9:07, no argument from me! 😁
Really fantastic project, it is amazing how these new technologies can be made to interface with the original keyboards and chassis... plural "chasses"? "Chassises"?
Made my way here having watched the recent 8-Bit Guy vid and had a look around and subbed and ding-ding'd too.
Always been a fan of retro tech and grew up on our island in the age of 8 bit UK home computers but we wanted quality graphics and 'real' PCM sampled sounds (like the Amiga later delivered) yet we look back on the 8 bit days so fondly as there was a degree of magic surrounding computers that is not around today.
It's good that there are a lot of people looking to look back fondly on the times and repair old computers to tell stories about them and let us who lived thru it the time recall old memories and laugh at the ghetto graphics of ZX Spectrum's and C64's but there really was a magic back in the day!
Nostalgia is very powerful. Thank you for joining me on the journey 👍🕹️
GOOD WORK MAN 10/10
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me. 👍🕹️
Thanks The 8-bit-guy for showing me this amazing channel!
Yup, thank you 9 bit guy!
I am planning on doing the exact same thing. Does the keyrah work with all the games? I plan on using d64 and T64 files. Will the C64 mini be able to handle them and what about games that have multiple d64 files. Will it know how to go to next disk? Sorry for all the questions. I am new at this? Just want to make sure before I invest.
There's a new firmware that will work in those instances. You'll just need to configure each game as per their instructions, and use the USB joystick for most. Good luck 👍🕹️
Another great video.
I'm looking for a cheap adapter to use my old 9 pin quickshot joystick on my mini.
I'd also like a 3d printed mini tape deck with a USB hub put inside it.
And lastly.. I'm looking for a way to convert old c64 tapes into roms. I made a game on my original c64 and it's now on a tape.
Great video bud
5:50 literally the one i have, smart with the water bottle
Awesome idea! I hope to win this unique C64 mini / maxi 😎
Fun project, and again a great video. I can't wait to win that! I've been putting off buying the C64 mini, and now I realize this is why. I still prefer the original thing, but sometimes it would be easier to just plug in this easy solution to my living room telly. And since you are (literally) asking for it, the size of the package doesn't matter, as long as it's the original and you know how to use it ;)
That's what she said? I agree, convenience for the living room, and the originals in the man/woman cave 👍🕹️
is the Keyrah v2b available any longer?
Awesome job there, sir. Now put a full size C64 in a mini case. :P
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I always forget to water my sponge. They get burnt up pretty quick.
Baby on board!
Lol kinda cool you use the Xtronic 3020. thats my main station. really underrated
Great project. Where was it finally shipped (winner of contest)?
Hi, I’m actually in the process of giving this project a shot, but I didn’t spot a link to the USB header seen in the video when you hooked the Mini to the Keyrah. Do you have a recommendation on which one to use?
Good point. I have updated the description 👍🕹️
Thank you Mr Fractic, you’re a star!
Hey! I saw you at the geek fest in gander newfoundland a little while ago, and then when I found this channel I was so confused because I thought you looked exactly like yourself (which makes sense) and then I realized it was you.
I suppose I do look like myself yes! What do you look like? 😂🕹️👍
Hi, I want to use an adapter to connect my full sized THEC64 with original competition Pro joysticks, but I can't find the Keyrah v2b on the linked sellers page. He has only Amiga stuff.
Thanks for the heads up. I have updated the link to icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/keyrah-v2.html
Retro Recipes thank you! Ah, maybe I am wrong, but as the full sized THEC64 has already a working keyboard I maybe need another interface just to connect my original joysticks? Asking because it's named Keyrah and not Joyrah. :)
@@Jauly Ah I see what you're trying to do. For that you'll need this: www.retronicdesign.com/en/ Make sure you flash their latest firmware to make it work with THEC64.
That would be a nice addition to my household :p
Thanks, I’m watching more of your videos.
Very clever! I do wish they would release this C64 mini in the U.S.A. already! I have been waiting for months!
Thanks! I got mine from Amazon.co.uk shipped to the UK for the same delivery cost as to the UK!
Forget the C64 (although an awesome project), but I wanna win your dogs. They’re sooo adorable and my kids would love em. 😍😍
amazing video, thank u
_Not_ _a_ _printer?_ Is that a challenge? ;)
That was a cool little project. And it just fit in there, phew. A shame about the poor original joystick incompatibility -- that does sound like a future firmware enhancement. Nice work!
im about to do the same with my c64 thats a cool video :)
Saw 8 Bit Guys' video, then the freaking awesome "C=MM2 Red" video, should've watched it from RMC back in April, it is a really good tune, isn't just plinky plonky at all, have a sub. Cheerz.
Thanks, have a like! 👍🕹️
Beautiful puppy's. Do they come with it as well LOL. Wait a second, my 2 cats probably wouldn't be happy with that. Does being a cat person exclude me from entering? Just kidding. Another great job putting it together! Have been eyeing the Keyrah for a while thinking about doing something similar - never thought about using one to put a Mini inside an original case though, really very creative! Anyhow, once again a great video and hoping I can win this! Crossing my fingers x. Keep up the great work!!
Thank you so much William. I won't tell your cats if you don't 😉🐕🕹️
I have a keyrah and mine does the same as yours where not all characters match the relevant keys , I’m very disappointed with this as thought that was the whole idea of the kayrah , has anyone found a way around this ?
sorry to be a bother but can you tell me what video you did to clean the C64 keyboard?
Here you go, though I can't remember if that keyboard stayed in that machine in the end th-cam.com/video/P_00wC0q37I/w-d-xo.html