When i was younger i looked like a model. People would tell me i should compete in beauty pageants etc. now that I’m 38 i still look really good for my age. The other day some guy mistook me for a teenager (which happens often, as i tend to look 10-15 years younger than i am). Has it gotten me anything in life? Nope. Still single. Still treated like crap by men. Still considered interchangeable then and now. Girls/ladies, don’t ever let a man tell you your beauty is your worth because no matter how attractive you are they will treat you the same as any other women, like 🚮. Just focus on you instead of trying to appeal to the male gaze. Take care of your health.
That’s my story too same age and everything lol I actually did model and beauty pageants back then and seem like it only attracted hatred and jealousy by men, women, family and friends. When I “fell off” after going through illness and gained weight, they made sure to compare my old pics to how I looked at the time saying I looked better back then. Going out their way to humble me. That’s when I realized it’s no winning with most people especially if they already have it in their mind to tear you down. Especially with men, they’ll dog you out from the time you’re young til you’re old.
You’re honestly around the wrong type of men. That’s all. You can’t let your guard down around any of them But the quality of life means everything when it comes to types of men. The more affluent and less urban, the less problems
I find your experience valid especially if your dating pool consists of mainly black men. The moment I stepped out and staring dating white men I was engaged in 6 months flat! WM we’re shocked that a black man hadn’t tied me down yet. It’s because 90% of black men don’t value marriage and family. The only date to create kids( broken homes) and to have segs.
They want them young beautiful and naive so they have more to tear down and ruin. I've gotten attention my whole life and honestly it really has resulted in me having a form of ptsd. It warranted nothing but predatory behavior and I ended up hiding myself and not wanting to be seen for a long time
Being young and naive will only work for a woman if she has a STRONG and PRESENT older/wiser woman properly guiding her. If not the wolves will come in and take advantage of her youth then blame her later for not being wise enough at that young age to avoid it. Having 2 wise and present parents is key!
@@dangdeionn The sad part is that no-one guided them either so they resent young women who haven’t messed up their lives already and refuse to guide them because their own lives were destroyed because of lack of guidance. Also the young women must be open to being guided by the RIGHT person as well. Honestly, the entire black community is full of unguided children/adults. The men jump ship and refuse to guide their sons and the women are too busy keeping a roof and food on the table to guide their daughters. It’s a mess.
@@dangdeionnit’s not even about competing. It’s just that Black culture doesn’t teach girls how to play the game. White and Asian girls are taught when to date for marriage, what to look for, what to expect from a man, etc. A lot of Black girls don’t get those lessons until it’s too late and the game has passed by 🤷🏾♀️
Two good parents are key!! I was lucky enough to have my mum and dad teach me very high standards and to be ruthless with my happiness, safety. Parents filling you with self esteem and love from young age is so powerful. Now it's very difficult for a guy to try nonsense. I don't tolerate rubbish at all which upsets the XY's on my page so much😂
@@dangdeionnno we don’t I don’t compete with younger girls it’s in the reverse the younger women is in competition 😂with us I just laugh and shake my head at them
It’s strange because at 68 I remember meeting my husband when I was 0:18 engaged to someone else. In the 80’s men proposed so that no one else snatched you up.
I spent most of my 20s trying to navigate the world of dating. I got into it late at 24 and I am glad I did because is was traumatic. At 24 I was still young and naive. I realised that all the men I dated were trying to manipulate me for $ex. They knew I was in experienced that they tried me. I hated the whole experienced and I took long breaks from dating to heal and educate myself. At 31, I guess I am passed the "wall". I know all their tricks and I have self confidence. This is why they like 'em young.
It makes me laugh when BM talk about women not having kids like we haven't chosen not to when it's so unbelievably easy to have a BM's child. To find one who seems like he'll stick around until they're an adult isn't so easy!
I'm married but childfree, I love your energy. I love to see woman decentering man, I hope this brings peace for women, like: finally being able to age without feeling bad for it or being fat and not needing to change our bodies, or have to appeal to no one. Please.
Amazing topic. So on point. Me as a woman who does have a toddler now..but a single black mother and reflecting over my life..I'm 33 now. I wholeheartedly agree none of that benefits women...it benefits men. I have now opted out of dating. I will do my role as mother in raising a son that will be able to benefit a woman properly oppose to take from her and bleed her dry...that is now one of my important missions in life. 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🥊🥊🥊🙌🏽🙌🏽. That man was bold..then went ghost lol...they always do. There is never a good rebuttle.
I work with the elderly ,so here all kinds of stories. These old guy told me that he like younger women ( I knew he was testing me). I said, why dont you be with someone you are compatible with? He said he I like them young cause their tender. I said you mean naive. He said older women are hard to deal with. I said yeah from dealing with men and now these women have wisdom and you cant pull no games with them. He said no no 😂😂, he said I can show younger women who to experience life. I said you have already lived life you trying to be her father. I said give her the right to be young and have experiences. He looked at me liked he was shocked. I said, when young women go with older men its because they either have daddy issues or they want money.
@@simplyshatice to reach a point where you feel unable to continue doing something because it is very difficult: Partway through the rehab process he hit a wall. That’s just one definition(According To A Google Search 08/22/2024
The nerdy caller listed experienced that could easily have also been had with female relatives of friends. I am happy her youthful experiences with men were mostly good however, describing the incident at 10 years old she fails to see that experiences with men outside of dating can also benefit/not benefit, in relation to Tonyas question. She didn't highlight that negative until Tonya dug for more answers.
How did she fail to see it as negative? She said it disgusted her, is that a positive adjective 😂 What experience do you have with people that you couldn’t have with other people..? This comment is unhinged 😂
@@christmastree1682 my comment was not unhinged, just poorly worded. Because the incident was not in the context of a relationship, she failed to answer it in the way that Tonya was asking. She was young and naive and a many took advantage by making the comment she described.
@@aspiring... what are you talking about? Tonya asked “has having the attraction of many men, not just men you were interested in or dated been beneficial”. She said no and used to example of a predator. What are you talking about. That’s the correct answer.
I’m no apart of the Manasphere. What I can understand about the wall, regarding its definition. The wall is a mythical structure. The is a symbol of a woman being older, beyond her youth and vitality, child bearing age, beyond her ability to be sexually etc. There age of preference that is visibility is typically between 12-24 years of age. Virginity is a must and the overall Manasphere usually align with the “alt right”, or “conservative values”(questionable values)
A 12 year old isn’t a woman And sexually appealing to who? As a woman ages so do men. So a 60 yo man ideally wants a 12 yo virgin? This sounds right? 👀
@@TonyaTko This is the myriad of reasons, ℹ raise my youngest child, who’s my only 10:25 daughter different. I’m more aware of my surroundings with her, and we a lot intimate mother daughter conversation as well. I guess you could say I’m over protective of my daughter. P.S. I am a widow and mother of three children. Two adults sons and one daughter(Sixteen)
@tonyatko I also get iron infusions every four months. Now I’m getting surgery to help lessen the amount of times I have to get them and keep the blood I have longer.
I was young but my dad, brothers and grandfathers kept me from being naive. If they only want you when your okay what do you get from that when your 60?
Women who are between the ages of 18 to 25, childless, fit, feminine, cooperative, and loyal have a GREAT chance of getting married to a mature intelligent wealthy man who will give them the soft life..🌸
And overall, what would she gain? Soft life? On lease? While he cheats? And MOST men in the US don't earn enough money to cover the bills himself. MOST families the woman also works, they split the bills, (not the chores & childcare... of course 🙄) How many of these mythical men are there? And are they even compatible? Or is he paying for her womb & youth until she's 35? Then trade her in for a younger model? What did she TRULY gain? And with so few of them to go around, what does anyone else gain?
@@TonyaTko I live in Southern California and this is where nothing happens in the world 🌎 without going through my city. There are so many millionaires and billionaires living here in beautiful houses 🏘 giving their young beautiful wives the (G WAGON🚙) Red Bottom,👠 Birkin Bag 👜 lifestyle and they don't have to work at a 9 to 5 job. The most beautiful women in the United States live in Southern California..✨️
@@TheBigCheese-s3e I’m in Southern California too and most people here (men and women) are average people. I live in the suburbs where houses are priced $1-3 million. Almost all of the men in these homes 🏡 are married to women in their own age group.
@TonyaTko Men age like wine 🍷 because as we get older, we become wise, gaining life experiences, travel, and make more money 💰 and have retirement income and less debt. Women (age like milk) 🥛have a window of beauty between ages 18 to 25 years and income peaks at 35 years and from there if not married it's all down hill 📉 in the dating or marriage demographic. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of single women are in serious debt owing student loans for USELESS degrees or mortgages for over price homes 🏡 that they will never pay off.
@@TheBigCheese-s3emen aging like wine is the biggest lie ever told. Especially black men, but really most all men do not age well. Anyone with eyes can see the truth of this. Especially when men have no wife. They eat garbage, they drink excessively, they don’t sleep well and run the streets. They live in squalor and gain tons of weight. Especially modern men. Most older men I see as I’m out and about have child beating hips and big bellies. Then have the audacity to wear tight pants and it’s hard to even tell if they are straight. Men hit the walk hard and these lies must stop.
Also pay attention young women 😉these older men had a young, naive, pretty woman when they were young and they messed over her 🫢
Its the same as “How does a woman benefit from being a man’s preference”. Being used to triangulate another woman is not beneficial. 😕
Facts!
Exactly 💯
When i was younger i looked like a model. People would tell me i should compete in beauty pageants etc. now that I’m 38 i still look really good for my age. The other day some guy mistook me for a teenager (which happens often, as i tend to look 10-15 years younger than i am). Has it gotten me anything in life? Nope. Still single. Still treated like crap by men. Still considered interchangeable then and now. Girls/ladies, don’t ever let a man tell you your beauty is your worth because no matter how attractive you are they will treat you the same as any other women, like 🚮. Just focus on you instead of trying to appeal to the male gaze. Take care of your health.
U are still young. I’ll be 41 and nobody believes me.
They say we are expired at 35 and meanwhile I still get mistaken for 18 😅 beyond hilarious.
That’s my story too same age and everything lol I actually did model and beauty pageants back then and seem like it only attracted hatred and jealousy by men, women, family and friends. When I “fell off” after going through illness and gained weight, they made sure to compare my old pics to how I looked at the time saying I looked better back then. Going out their way to humble me. That’s when I realized it’s no winning with most people especially if they already have it in their mind to tear you down. Especially with men, they’ll dog you out from the time you’re young til you’re old.
You’re honestly around the wrong type of men. That’s all. You can’t let your guard down around any of them
But the quality of life means everything when it comes to types of men. The more affluent and less urban, the less problems
I find your experience valid especially if your dating pool consists of mainly black men. The moment I stepped out and staring dating white men I was engaged in 6 months flat! WM we’re shocked that a black man hadn’t tied me down yet. It’s because 90% of black men don’t value marriage and family. The only date to create kids( broken homes) and to have segs.
They want them young beautiful and naive so they have more to tear down and ruin. I've gotten attention my whole life and honestly it really has resulted in me having a form of ptsd. It warranted nothing but predatory behavior and I ended up hiding myself and not wanting to be seen for a long time
Being young and naive will only work for a woman if she has a STRONG and PRESENT older/wiser woman properly guiding her. If not the wolves will come in and take advantage of her youth then blame her later for not being wise enough at that young age to avoid it. Having 2 wise and present parents is key!
Let’s be honest there’s not a lot of them guiding us .. they too busy competing. Like don’t nobody want his broke tail
@@dangdeionn The sad part is that no-one guided them either so they resent young women who haven’t messed up their lives already and refuse to guide them because their own lives were destroyed because of lack of guidance. Also the young women must be open to being guided by the RIGHT person as well. Honestly, the entire black community is full of unguided children/adults. The men jump ship and refuse to guide their sons and the women are too busy keeping a roof and food on the table to guide their daughters. It’s a mess.
@@dangdeionnit’s not even about competing. It’s just that Black culture doesn’t teach girls how to play the game. White and Asian girls are taught when to date for marriage, what to look for, what to expect from a man, etc. A lot of Black girls don’t get those lessons until it’s too late and the game has passed by 🤷🏾♀️
Two good parents are key!!
I was lucky enough to have my mum and dad teach me very high standards and to be ruthless with my happiness, safety. Parents filling you with self esteem and love from young age is so powerful. Now it's very difficult for a guy to try nonsense. I don't tolerate rubbish at all which upsets the XY's on my page so much😂
@@dangdeionnno we don’t I don’t compete with younger girls it’s in the reverse the younger women is in competition 😂with us I just laugh and shake my head at them
It’s strange because at 68 I remember meeting my husband when I was 0:18 engaged to someone else. In the 80’s men proposed so that no one else snatched you up.
It gets you nothing because of that NAIVE part of the equation
EXACTLY...Being naive is for the birds. You are easily manipulated because you don't know any better!
So they want someone strong and independent who is also young and naive. You can't make this up.
😂😂😂😂 “hitting the wall” is a dusty phrase. Lmao this LIVE is hilarious. Tonya your personality is priceless 💜
I just remember being young and men thinking they could play or pimp me.Luckily I was always streets smart and watched the news and crime shows.
I spent most of my 20s trying to navigate the world of dating. I got into it late at 24 and I am glad I did because is was traumatic.
At 24 I was still young and naive. I realised that all the men I dated were trying to manipulate me for $ex. They knew I was in experienced that they tried me. I hated the whole experienced and I took long breaks from dating to heal and educate myself.
At 31, I guess I am passed the "wall". I know all their tricks and I have self confidence. This is why they like 'em young.
@@aspiring... 31 years! You are in the DANGER ZONE 🚨
@@TheBigCheese-s3e fine by me. I like a little danger.
@@TheBigCheese-s3e I like danger.
And THAT is the Game.
@@TheBigCheese-s3e thank you.
I live for the danger.
It makes me laugh when BM talk about women not having kids like we haven't chosen not to when it's so unbelievably easy to have a BM's child. To find one who seems like he'll stick around until they're an adult isn't so easy!
Amen. Amen. They spray that seed around like water from a busted fire hydrant on a 90 degree day.
There is no benefit to the woman...None...That's why you never here a woman say, " I wish I was young and naive again."
i appreciate the callers who didnt know what it meant. they havent been listening to the poison being spewed by redpillers.
Them men ain't crazy, they know they don't have an answer 😬😬
I'm married but childfree, I love your energy. I love to see woman decentering man, I hope this brings peace for women, like: finally being able to age without feeling bad for it or being fat and not needing to change our bodies, or have to appeal to no one. Please.
Amazing topic. So on point. Me as a woman who does have a toddler now..but a single black mother and reflecting over my life..I'm 33 now. I wholeheartedly agree none of that benefits women...it benefits men. I have now opted out of dating. I will do my role as mother in raising a son that will be able to benefit a woman properly oppose to take from her and bleed her dry...that is now one of my important missions in life. 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🥊🥊🥊🙌🏽🙌🏽. That man was bold..then went ghost lol...they always do. There is never a good rebuttle.
I work with the elderly ,so here all kinds of stories. These old guy told me that he like younger women ( I knew he was testing me). I said, why dont you be with someone you are compatible with? He said he I like them young cause their tender. I said you mean naive. He said older women are hard to deal with. I said yeah from dealing with men and now these women have wisdom and you cant pull no games with them. He said no no 😂😂, he said I can show younger women who to experience life. I said you have already lived life you trying to be her father. I said give her the right to be young and have experiences. He looked at me liked he was shocked. I said, when young women go with older men its because they either have daddy issues or they want money.
Lololol. Damn
I like getting less attention because then someone like me for me. I'm not using their stupid made up mysogny language
The little fist had me hollering 😂😂😂
Sharnissa’s explanation of hitting the wall. 🤣🤣🤣🤣😑
Yeah she doesn’t know the true definition. Crazy how I got to your comment as soon as she said her definition 😅😂❤
@@simplyshatice
to reach a point where you feel unable to continue doing something because it is very difficult: Partway through the rehab process he hit a wall. That’s just one definition(According To A Google Search 08/22/2024
Tonya Tko, I love watching your videos!
The nerdy caller listed experienced that could easily have also been had with female relatives of friends.
I am happy her youthful experiences with men were mostly good however, describing the incident at 10 years old she fails to see that experiences with men outside of dating can also benefit/not benefit, in relation to Tonyas question. She didn't highlight that negative until Tonya dug for more answers.
How did she fail to see it as negative? She said it disgusted her, is that a positive adjective 😂
What experience do you have with people that you couldn’t have with other people..? This comment is unhinged 😂
@@christmastree1682 my comment was not unhinged, just poorly worded.
Because the incident was not in the context of a relationship, she failed to answer it in the way that Tonya was asking.
She was young and naive and a many took advantage by making the comment she described.
@@aspiring... what are you talking about? Tonya asked “has having the attraction of many men, not just men you were interested in or dated been beneficial”. She said no and used to example of a predator. What are you talking about. That’s the correct answer.
LOL @TonyaTKO yes, don't share your business 😊! We don't need to know about that.
I’m no apart of the Manasphere. What I can understand about the wall, regarding its definition. The wall is a mythical structure. The is a symbol of a woman being older, beyond her youth and vitality, child bearing age, beyond her ability to be sexually etc. There age of preference that is visibility is typically between 12-24 years of age. Virginity is a must and the overall Manasphere usually align with the “alt right”, or “conservative values”(questionable values)
A 12 year old isn’t a woman
And sexually appealing to who?
As a woman ages so do men.
So a 60 yo man ideally wants a 12 yo virgin?
This sounds right? 👀
Older men who find twelve year old girls appealing, who believe in this mythical wall
@@TonyaTko
Thank you, Ma’am for your response
Wowwwwww. This world is something else
@@TonyaTko
This is the myriad of reasons, ℹ raise my youngest child, who’s my only 10:25 daughter different. I’m more aware of my surroundings with her, and we a lot intimate mother daughter conversation as well. I guess you could say I’m over protective of my daughter.
P.S. I am a widow and mother of three children. Two adults sons and one daughter(Sixteen)
Absolutely no benefit.
53:38 really resonated with me.
Nothing but lies lol 😂
@tonyatko I also get iron infusions every four months. Now I’m getting surgery to help lessen the amount of times I have to get them and keep the blood I have longer.
❤️🩹
9:58 💯
I was young but my dad, brothers and grandfathers kept me from being naive. If they only want you when your okay what do you get from that when your 60?
#REPLAY
Begging for someone to call in 😂😂😂😂😂 Good grief Charlie Brown
I know right 😫
Correction. Men to call in.... and none but 1 had the courage
Because they know they didn't have an answer.
Being a woman can be exhausting...
Scammed
Tonya Tko, cool video keep it up dude
Thank you. I’m a woman. Please call me woman based descriptors
Thou protest to much Tonya. If you’re happy then just be happy. Making these kinda videos just goes to show the opposite.
Women who are between the ages of 18 to 25, childless, fit, feminine, cooperative, and loyal have a GREAT chance of getting married to a mature intelligent wealthy man who will give them the soft life..🌸
And overall, what would she gain? Soft life? On lease? While he cheats?
And MOST men in the US don't earn enough money to cover the bills himself. MOST families the woman also works, they split the bills, (not the chores & childcare... of course 🙄)
How many of these mythical men are there? And are they even compatible? Or is he paying for her womb & youth until she's 35? Then trade her in for a younger model?
What did she TRULY gain?
And with so few of them to go around, what does anyone else gain?
@@TonyaTko I live in Southern California and this is where nothing happens in the world 🌎 without going through my city.
There are so many millionaires and billionaires living here in beautiful houses 🏘 giving their young beautiful wives the (G WAGON🚙) Red Bottom,👠 Birkin Bag 👜 lifestyle and they don't have to work at a 9 to 5 job.
The most beautiful women in the United States live in Southern California..✨️
@@TheBigCheese-s3e
I’m in Southern California too and most people here (men and women) are average people.
I live in the suburbs where houses are priced $1-3 million. Almost all of the men in these homes 🏡 are married to women in their own age group.
@@SonyaOutThere So what that's just average 🤔
@@SonyaOutThere I live near the beach baby where all the action is ⛱️
Women age like milk 🥛and men age like wine 🍷
Aging isn't gender based. Men Don't even go to the doctor and in average die before women. Soooooooo 🤷🏾♀️
@TonyaTko Men age like wine 🍷 because as we get older, we become wise, gaining life experiences, travel, and make more money 💰 and have retirement income and less debt.
Women (age like milk) 🥛have a window of beauty between ages 18 to 25 years and income peaks at 35 years and from there if not married it's all down hill 📉 in the dating or marriage demographic. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of single women are in serious debt owing student loans for USELESS degrees or mortgages for over price homes 🏡 that they will never pay off.
@@TheBigCheese-s3emen aging like wine is the biggest lie ever told. Especially black men, but really most all men do not age well. Anyone with eyes can see the truth of this. Especially when men have no wife. They eat garbage, they drink excessively, they don’t sleep well and run the streets. They live in squalor and gain tons of weight. Especially modern men. Most older men I see as I’m out and about have child beating hips and big bellies. Then have the audacity to wear tight pants and it’s hard to even tell if they are straight. Men hit the walk hard and these lies must stop.
Sounds like you’re looking for a boyfriend lol 🏳️🌈
Enjoy!
@@WistleWhileYouTwerk You are JEALOUS because no man is checking for you and your ad-hominem insults don't effect me.