I'm still convinced the one retcon is aggressively boring. He said nobody noticed, so it can't be interesting, and there's one, aggressively boring, thing that cannot possibly be true. He swapped the word "convicted" for "arrested" in the FNAF1 newspaper that says the killer was convicted. Afton couldn't possibly have been convicted because then he would be somewhere between dead and in prison for the rest of the series. He could, however, have been arrested and then not convicted because they couldn't find evidence. Nobody noticed that he was around because he wasn't introduced until after this.
Personally I think it's who we play as in fnaf 2. One of the scrapped mechanics was a toxic meter with a found image as a purple tinted skull, while it could be a representation of poison, I believe we were supposed to play as Michael Afton night 1-5 because the skull is purple. Then we collectively theorised 1-5 guard as the bite victim, and Scott ran with it
I think the box was just a teaser for another game, a game that never happened. I think Scott said this when he said the “strings were never pulled on” in the interview. Scott had a plan in his mind but he scrapped it and we all just latched on to the box even though it was no longer important.
I don't think Scott ever had a clear idea of what was in the box and then bailed on it when the community got so obsessed with it. the box could never live up to the hype so he just keeps it around as lore tease but i guarantee even now he has no clue what he would want to be in the box. and at this point i think he's right in thinking nothing he could think of would satisfy the community i know i cant think of anything super satisfying at this point myself
i didnt change my mind about the box BUT i agree about the fnaf 3 ending!!!! makes a lol of sense!! especially we know one spirit refuses to let them all move on!!! so like yeah you set up for the gg but vengey is like throwing a tantrum forcing it to fail!! boom goes the dynamite!
Glad you agree with me on the retcon! I also agree with you that the hype around the box was too big and nomatter what Scott said, it wasn't gonna be enough for the fans.
Important to note, as someone who was around at the time, the Box wasn't seen as the most important thing to the lore, that's what it became after years of going unanswered. At the time, people had their theories but mostly treated it like any other mystery, we made our guesses and assumed we'd get our answer later. So there was never anything inherently more interesting/important than other lore mysteries with the Box other than the fact it was hinting at future games. So whatever WAS in the box is going to be something equally non-important. It's not going to be an Afton monologue that explains every motive or something, it would be something more like a picture of Springtrap with some hidden text that just says "I'm gonna get ya" and has "83" in the file properties, and it would just be another Scott Cawthon teaser
Well he’s stated it before, he once had an idea/general concept for it but it’s been lost/forgotten and he doesn’t know if he can really find it again so yeah in summary there is something but he forgot about what exactly it was/trying to do
@@isekai_neo Well I guess i just believe its a lil white lie Scott is telling about forgetting. like it may not be very popular for Scott to say 'I never had a solid idea of what was in the box' but again its just my thought i dont think Scott has thought about the story nearly as much as fans think he has especially early on when he was pumping out games. I love Fnaf and think Scott is a true creative. I just believe that with the story especially he was flying by the seat of his pants in that first year or two especially.
My three ideas about the box: 1. Most likely, the box was a teaser for a new FNAF game. This explains Scott's "Would the community accept it that way?' People hyped up the box like it would be some huge lore drop, when it was just a teaser. 2. An item connecting Mike Schmidt to FoxyBro. 3. Not likely, but I like this narratively: Inside the box is MCI's and CC's memories of being murdered. Throughout the franchise, we see that the way you save children's spirits is by altering their memories. The Happiest Day, for example, is CC's birthday changed from a bad to a good day. This is what "some things are best left forgotten" means. To save the spirits, you make them forget their trauma. Also, it explains "I will put you back together." Whoever puts on the happiest day is deconstructing the children's bad memories and putting them back together with happy memories. Idk if this makes sense.
I have two theories on what's in the box. Theory 1. The Fredbear plush and Charlie's wristband. A reminder of what William and Henry lost. Two keys, two co-owners. Theory 2. Mike's Foxy mask.
I think the box is the game version of finding Charlie in the closet. Maybe Micheal is a robot and the box contains his blueprints. This explains how Michael survived getting scooped, how he survived getting burned, how he is still chasing the ghosts for decades despite his injuries, and why he sits alone in his house every day not sleeping or socializing but just working every night and watching TV every day. He is not programmed to do anything else but work for his dad. Perhaps, he knew what he was from the start unlike Charlie and that's why he is not afraid of dying at the hands of the haunted animatronics.
Ok so like- if that was the case it would actually be reeeeallly cool and fit into the next game seamlessly where we play as Michael. It would imply that we are the foxy bro and connect/tease things beautifully in a vague but sensible way
Ikr, everyone has been acting like “oho lol he forgor” but he literally said in the interview that he knows what’s in it, but it doesn’t matter anymore because it’s not cannon anymore.
Okay, 3:18 I think originally it was supposed to be the foxy bully mask, but over time it became less of a “surprise”. The idea was changed, and eventually was forgotten entirely. I have always LIKED the parallel of the fnaf 6 building to the box, but I don’t think it was intentional.
I have an idea. You said the retcon was related to Happiest Day and the souls not being freed, right? What if the retcon was that Happiest Day only freed the Crying Child? That'd explain why the other souls are still around, why Golden Eyes tells us (probably CC) to rest in the Clock Ending, why both 4 and World share so many similarities to the FNaF 3 minigames, why Faded tells Altered (CC) "THE PARTY WAS FOR YOU" in the Logbook, and why CC is never mentioned again in the story.
The box *was* a metaphor to the community to take a step back and forget everything they know up until that point, to take a break and come back some other time when Scott find a way to tell the pieces of the story he created in a better way. In a way I mean that the box contains the books and screenplays Scott created for the community to enjoy.
I always though that the box contained the games as books. The “4 Games, 1 Story”, the fact that the box contained “pieces”, FNAF 4 being the “Final Chapter”
Essentially I think the box was originally something he wanted to show us but after releasing games, books etc, he just didn't know if it was worth releasing the box so he just made it empty and left it up to us to interpret how we see the story since it tends to contradict itself so much, plus the fact he keeps wiggling it in front of our faces like a juicy steak infront of a dog, makes us salivate to theorize and keep buying games to hopefully learn the truth.
I have a crazy theory -- but I think Charlie's puppet could be put in the box. My main reasoning for this is because we're not entirely clear on where the puppet is relocated after Charlie gets put into Lefty. I'm sure people would say that the puppet was put into Lefty themselves, but there's not a lot to support this and overall I feel like the box would have something to do with a key character like Charlie. Also, just a random relation to this, but Charlie is put into a box in one of the first three books, I forgot which one. The book explains certain things indirectly, like certain characters. I know it's a crazy idea, but it's one i've never heard or at least never covered in detail. Also I don't think it makes a lot of narrative sense for it to be retcons because everyone always runs with retcon ideas. Scott said there was one major retcon, I don't think it makes sense to go off of just that. There's probably just inconsistencies
I don't know what was originally in the box, but I think I can say what it is now. It's still "the pieces put together"... the Pizzeria Simulator. All the animatronics/spirits (the "pieces") gathered in one place ("put together"), to finally be set free.
I thought the misconception from fnaf 4 that got cleared up via sister location was the year fnaf 4 took place. People weren't really sure if it was 1983 or '87. But in the secret bunker in sister location inputting 1983 into the number pad shows the fnaf 4 bedroom and the plushtrap hallway on the screens.
i dont think the box can be anything "abstract" like retcons (at least at first) because it was meant to be opened twice, once in fnaf 4 halloween edition and once in fnaf world. it would be very hard to convey retcons in-game.
Idk, I think it’d be pretty cool if the box had something in it that proved Cassidy = The Crying Child, and The Vengeful Spirit = Michael. Is that what I think was originally inside it? No, not at all, UCN didn’t come out and therefore introduce us to The Vengeful Spirit until 2017 (iirc). But considering how much of Dual Process’ timeline/interpretations make sense, I think they’re the closest anyone’s ever gotten, even better than Gibi, and his timeline was my favorite until I watched Connie and Cori completely destroy it. Orange Guy isn’t William, though. That’s an MCI parent, and those footprints are from the Spring Bonnie suit. “But it’s raining 🥺” William kidnapped the kid BEFORE it rained. That simple.
honestly I just watched a massive theory about fnaf world giving the crying child his happiest day and knowing how it was supposed to be opened in fnaf world, I wanna say the box holds the crying child’s happiest day
I think the contents of the box (back then) was : -some family pictures showing that mike and dave are related to purple guy and the fact that william started his downward spiral because of his dead son -A foxy mask, a security gaurd badge and a matchbox showing that mike was the main character of the past three games (and that he burns the places he works in) -The fredbear plush with possessed looking eyes
This is not my idea, this is from a TH-camr called ‘Gibi’s horror homestead.’ He made a 9 hour long Fnaf video and in the hideo he discussed what he believed was in the box. The Fredbear plush to show that the crying child possesses golden Freddy, a family picture labelled ‘The Schmidts’ to show that the crying child and Mike Schmidt are related (This would change to ‘The Acton’s’ when sister location came out) and matchsticks to show that the fnaf 3 security guard is Mike and burnt down Faxbear Frights. I believe this is what is in the box
i think it was a family photograph of cc, Mike and two parents titled the Shmidts, and the security guard nametags. I think Scott changed this because he decided to pivot to the afton storyline, with Mike and CC being William's kids.
The Foxy Mask and a picture of the Schmidts before they were retconned to be the Aftons, After that it was changed to CCs remains and now it's The Puppet/The Mimic
i do think the box is definitely buried in the midnight motorist mound, since if you go out of bounds in the flaf demo the "no secret lore here" text is inside a box shaped object in the dirt mound. I think it's gonna be revealed in flaf
I think the box is a metaphor for the entire story of FNAF. I don’t think that there is anything *literally* inside of the box, but that instead it’s a metaphor and therefore not literal.
I think the box has the ending inside when the box is opened, the story ends when all the pieces are put together, we won't have anymore pieces to add, signaling the end of fnaf, meaning the box has been opened but at this point, almost no one would be satisfied with it ending.
i liked the interpretation that the box was supposed to have affredbear mask for the crying child on his birthday that never ended up being used. doesn't seem like it effects the lore too much, so idk lol
Pre Video Opinion: The box is “the pieces put together” and the dialogue at the end says “I will put you back together”. The books releasing right around the same time in which the main character was a dead child recreated with pieces of agony. I believe in some form or fashion the crying child is in that box. It could be him rebuilt, it could be a taken apart golden Freddy that has his remnant. In some way, the crying child is in the box. At this point in the lore though it would be hard to reveal this, with the Afton family supposedly being put to rest.
I think the box was scrapped due to the poor reception of FNAF World, I think he had a certain idea planned for FNAF world but everyone hated it so much that he tried to pivot the story in a completely different way to the point where Scott couldn’t put anything in there that would make sense
My personal belief about the retcon is the fact that Mike Schmidt and William Afton were never supposed to be related. That being said, I do really like this theory
My guess of what's in the box: (I think there must be 5 things to symbolise 5 Nights & 5 stages of grief) 1. Contract between William & Henry/ photo of them together in their costumes or with Henry holding some tools (Denial that William need's help with his business after the death of his son) 2. Murder weapon used to kill Charlie (anger at Henry) 3. 5 vials of silver remnant (bargaining through MCI sacrifice to get his son back from the dead) 4. Family photo of the Aftons with his wife & dauther's faces scratched out (depression about having lost so much) 5. Black Golden Freddy top hat 🎩 (acceptance that his son lives on in Golden Freddy)
I think cc is in the box, hence why golden freddy can teleport in a metaphysical way while the other animatronics, whose bodies are stuffed inside the animatronic, cannot.
I dont think that whatever Scott meant to be in the box is anything metaphorical like you describe because Scott intended the box to be solved, and expected it to be pretty quick, and he gave up on the box pretty quickly, in Game Theory's first FNaF4 video they mentioned that Scott had given up on it before they had a chance to make a video because 4 came out during Con Season. That means Scott intended for it to be solvable with just base FNaF4. (And potentially he believed it was obvious or surface level) I do agree that Happiest Day could be Scott's One Retcon(i also like to point out that the details of the MCI mentioned in the FNaF1 Newspapers dont match any representation of the MCI in the series, and the newspapers also mention the suspect being charged but Afton is active through the whole series, and it would fit with Scott not having a plan for a series during FNaF 1) but i dont think something that indirect could be Scott's original vision for the box. Thats why im fond of answets like "Psychic Friend Fredbear" or "Mike's Foxy Mask" cuz they're something we could have figured out at the time with some obvious surface level symbolism for why they're being locked away. Burying the guilt, etc.
The image of the box, open, in the FNAF World files, tells us it was meant to be opened by/in FNAF World. The box is "the pieces put together". FNAF World puts the pieces in place. ("The pieces are in place for you.") And the pieces, put together, lead to Happiest Day. Inside the box? Happiest Day. Perhaps represented by the Golden Freddy head with the lights out like we see in the good ending of FNAF 3. Basically, telling us the story is over. The true ending. The reason the box was never opened? Well, Scott decided to continue the story.
after watching: personally i don't think there are as many retcons as people like to believe. I do think you're right in that originally the good ending was the ending, but then was moved to later in the timeline or changed in some way to let the story continue. So I guess my opinion didn't change much because the theory in this video is sorta similar - it all comes back to Happiest Day. Great video and I love this channel!
Fuckers at Freddy Fazbender's still want me to work, "Walk it off" they said after shooting me with a bear tranquilizer after I was already springlocked, NEVER WORK AT FREDDY'S!
My guess is that it contains a Fazbear work uniform or work paraphernalia that has blood on it or some other evidence linking the crying child's father to the missing children incidents
2:53 Scott said the contents have changed. Given all the heavy crying child puppet connections, I think it was the puppet at some point (I think Matpat had a similar conclusion). But then the charlie retcon happened. The pieces put back together... Maybe it changed to the Fredbear plush from fnaf 4? But then we see the plush in Sister Location's secret room... Maybe... referencing the rare poster that can show up in fanf 6, maybe a clown doll, a bear, and a ventriloquist dummy? (and a photo, perhaps, as a nod to Afton? Or maybe a plush springbonnie.) Now, I'm pretty sure, in Scott's mind, the box is empty at this point. What lies there actually has been forgotten. Schrodinger's box, the contents do and don't exist at the same time....
I think in the box is literally all the pieces put together, in the sense of the lore, I've always thought this bc FNAF 3 was supposedly the last game, but then scott made the 4th to make more scary jumpscares, so IMO the box was supposed to contain all the answers, and the community wouldn't be ready because it would destroy the theory community, witch i think is close to most of the fan base, not even thinking about many people that would be angry discovering their theories were just worng
I think its the first three fnaf games as video game cartridges. It would support dream theory, as well as explain why scott wouldnt want to share what was in the box anymore
In Ruin Candy Cadet summerizes the events of the game (or rather DLC) you're playing. Scott has always added details in later games to clear up confusion from past games and I think this falls into that category because otherwise Ruined Candy Cadet only exists to tell us about a plot twist that we already expect by the point in the game we meet him at which doesn't feel right (to me at least). Him being in Ruin could be to tell as that his stories in FFPS/FNaF6 are telling the events of that game. I think Candy Cadet was telling us that Henry's plan wouldn't be successful. I think he was telling us that everyone in the FNaF 6 ending would become part of The Tangle, perhaps even being where UCN takes place since all the needed characters would be there (the MCI are around through one of the Scrap animatronics. While that is a big leap to assume, it's an incredibly popular and widely believed theory). This would even line up with the stories setting up future games, UCN and HW2. I think all the pieces put together is The Tangle. Or more realistically, the Funtime Freddy mask that The Tangle wears. I'm not gonna pretend it's a flawless theory, but I think it works pretty well. It doesnt answer what was in there in the past, be it answers what may be in there currently.In Ruin Candy Cadet summerizes the events of the game (or rather DLC) you're playing. Scott has always added details in later games to clear up confusion from past games and I think this falls into that category because otherwise Ruined Candy Cadet only exists to tell us about a plot twist that we already expect by the point in the game we meet him at which doesn't feel right (to me at least). Him being in Ruin could be to tell as that his stories in FFPS/FNaF6 are telling the events of that game. I think Candy Cadet was telling us that Henry's plan wouldn't be successful. I think he was telling us that everyone in the FNaF 6 ending would become part of The Tangle, perhaps even being where UCN takes place since all the needed characters would be there (the MCI are around through one of the Scrap animatronics. While that is a big leap to assume, it's an incredibly popular and widely believed theory). This would even line up with the stories setting up future games, UCN and HW2. I think all the pieces put together is The Tangle. Or more realistically, the Funtime Freddy mask that The Tangle wears. I'm not gonna pretend it's a flawless theory, but I think it works pretty well. It doesnt answer what was in there in the past, be it answers what may be in there currently. I have a few little things that don't line up with my theory, though. Why does he say 5 in every story in FFPS when it would be 6? Scrap Baby, Molten Freddy, Afton, Lefty, Mike, and Henry would make it 6. I guess we could say that it didnt show Lefty burn. Or that Mike wasnt planned to be there. Or that maybe Mike would possesses Glamrock Freddy. Or Scrap Baby and Molten Freddy just count as Ennard. Or that Henry may have lived. But that doesn't feel satisfying at all. We could also say that Molten Freddy isnt haunted, so they don't count... but then we lose the most popular way to have the MCI kids there for UCN. I don't have a satisfying solution for the number 5. Not to mention that there's not much indication of the MCI kids being part of the Funtimes in the games at all. That's a pretty big thing not to show. Even Henry and William got expanded upon in the games meanwhile the Classics being melted into the Funtimes isn't inplied in the games (at least not enough to have any amount of certainty). Either way, that's the closest I can think of on the spot
This theory is hilarious. Scott confirming the contents of the box has changed means the box has been retconned multiple times, so if your theory is correct then the box contains a box which contains a box which contains a box ad infinitum. Outside of that silly idea I really enjoyed this theory as it makes the "pieces put together" quote make a lot of sense without taking the fnaf 4 ending literally. The 2 keys making the 1 solution also reminds me of candy cadet even if his stories were meant to be for fnaf 6's story and not the box.
I think there is a foxy mask in the box, It would be a great ending for Mike's story. Not necessarily the pieces put together but, it is still a memory that he wishes to forget. The day that he killed is little brother and destroyed his own family. And seeing that the context for Fnaf 4 are the nightmares/hallucinations that mike is experiencing, I think that a foxy mask (the one he used on the of his brother's murder) is something that he would lock inside that box.
I think, from a recent theory I saw, that Mike's Foxy mask and a security badge was in the box. The argument was that the box was supposed to confirm something for us, namely that the big brother in FNAF 4 is the night guard but Scott hadn't seen evidence of anyone theorising along those lines. He dropped hints during the theorist's livestream around that time that was supposed to hint towards that, such as 'Four games, one story', but that took theorists in a different direction still, so he chose to keep the contents hidden. As to why he didn't open the box later, when theories about Mike being the protagonist of the series arose, I think it is also true that the contents probably changed over time. Edit: I don't know if my opinion on the box has changed, but I do think the idea that the 'complicated' canon ending of FNAF 3 being the retcon Scott mentioned is a worthwhile idea.
Original I think the Box had the “keys” to the Happiest day mini game, those Clocks we put in piece in FNAF world, something that wouldn’t make the community happy as now meta-games and games within games are important lore and how can we tell what was real vs what not real from FNAF 1-4, like dream theory did the community wouldn’t except meta games within games that effect both sides.(at the time and now it’s obvious that what the minigames were) Now I think what’s in the Box is a secret that Scott never fully decided what it should be yet as it’s important to the Afton Family.
maybe the fredbear plush it says somethings are best left forgotten so maybe mr A. Locked it up to try to forget his son's death at the hands of the fredbear animatronic he made.
have to say, im really impressed with your channel. I've only watched your Phone Guy theory so far but you bring new and insightful thinking to the community. I liked feeling like part of the theory, making us think about it for ourselves instead of just watching what a theorist is saying. I hope more people get to find your channel! I'm not done with the video since I'm thinking about what's in The box but I think it's some uhhh, it's a McGriddle. with two bites in it (source: it was me) edit: oh. my. goodness. I'm STILL not done with the video 10:54, I'm blown away with the new theories you got!
I think whats in the box is various item from all the key lore bits such as the foxy mask Michael wore, or maybe pictures from fredbears, stuff like that. What i really want to be in there is vhs tapes or cctv pictures of william committing his crimes
2:56 the foxy mask that Micheal wears to scare his brother edit: I don’t necessarily change my mind but that was a good theory and the best theory I found
My best guess is that its some sort keep sake reminder William would have of CC. The box’s major appearance is its first in FNAF4 so it has to be connected to that story uniquely more than others even if it involves the “pieces” that are the first three stories, i.e. it involves CC. If it connects to all three previous stories, the only physical object I can think of is the fredbear plush it represents the character the whole franchise begins with (1), obscuring tragedies of the past (2), Springbonnie’s (William’s) counterpart (3), CC’s fav animatronic that ends up causing his death (fnaf 4). The only gripe is that its kinda too big just for that but if its multiple items it’d def be included.
I'm leaving 2 comments for two very different thoughts. Comment 1: there is something every one has forgotten, Scott is a untrustworthy story teller by because 1) help wanted 2) Scott awnsered questions in fallow up games. Help wanted told us that the original games are unsanctioned fan tellings of events that happend at. Fazzbears location. Fazbear entertainment has used this as a spring board for their Mega Pizza Plex. Meaning. The box is two slabs of wood put together. Yep it's nothing. Because the story teller doesn't know what it is. It hasn't been planned yet
I think rn I believe that scott didn't 100% have the contents of the box figured out, he also mentioned the contents have changed since. I'm susbribed to the idea that it was and still is a metaphor, it being included in one of the most confusing games it makes sense plus would the community accept the "contents" ie. the story of fnaf? and the fact that the community was torn from fnaf4 he decides it's best to keep in locked. I think if it had been a physical object then scott would've opened it by now as he likes to give the community help from time to time, tho nearly 10 years later nothing revealed. Scott is aware at how observant but also how "energetic" the community is and it probably is for the best it stays locked
The box theory is probably a bit off, but the retcon would probably be the happiest days ending. Since it was supposed to be the last game, he gave us a good ending, then had to pivot, and we still had souls to worry about with the last game being a golden Freddy fight. The seamless transition is probably the 2 souls theory, the first golden Freddy soul moved on after that ending, the 2nd stuck around until the end of the series.
4:07 I always thought the retcon was Bite of '87 to Bite of '83, but then again- I've always been convinced that it's impossible for the series to only have one retcon. Either more things had to be retconned, Scott has been leaving out MASSIVE chunks of information, or the community has been completely incorrect on several GIGANTIC pieces of basic information for years. One such example? The newspaper clippings that explicitly say somebody was arrested for the MCI in FNaF 1. Either Scott entirely omitted the fact that somebody was falsely arrested, or that William was arrested and let go due to them not finding the bodies (despite technicians working on the old suits some time before FNaF 2...), OR there have been multiple murderers this entire time, OR Scott retconned that piece of text. Most people can probably agree that there weren't multiple murderers, so he either just never felt it would be relevant to place this arrest onto the timeline, or it never actually happened.
Remember Scott just said what is in the box is unimportant right now not that he forgot or didn’t have a vague idea what it is Also Scott didn’t say he retconned the story of Fnaf 4. Just that he tried telling the story in a different way
if scott ever had a clear idea of what was in that box i dont think its anything we'd ever be able to guess. if it was something really concrete/directly from the game, like a golden freddy mask or cc's remains or the puppet or whatever, i think scott wouldve remembed that and either just say what it was or say he doesnt want to reveal it. if he forgot what exactly was in the box whatever was in there was probably something abstract that relates to the lore in a very metaphorical way rather than literal
I think the retcon is FNAF 1's missing children incident it stated that 5 children went missing but FNAF 2 and onward 6 dead children seems to be the magic number also it states that the suspect was convicted for the missing children but based on what little we know about the timeline the suspect never served their time in prison
Food for thought: Maybe it doesn't make sense, but I've always thought both endings of Fnaf 3 are canon. The minigames I felt were more symbolic than literal. I say both are canon because in a sense, technically you do free the spirits at the end of Fnaf 6.
I like it! I'm working on a FNAF 1-4 theory, because I do think there was an intended story that has changed, but I really like this idea of the retcon being the endings, very interesting. I have a more concrete answer for what's in the box because I have a more specific guess of the intended story and what ends up getting changed around. I don't want to say too much but it's related to the idea of Charlie's gender being the retcon.
I think the box has nothing in it. Before I get swarmed by flaming pitchforks hear me out. Scott has said many times that the answers are there just misunderstood, they may of been tweaked and heck 1 was a full retcon that Scott said barely changed anything (Puppet spirit being female instead of male imo). Where have we heard that before hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... "The pieces are in place for you" Glitchy Friend Fredbear. Yes this relates to doing Happiest day but think of it this way, the Box is open in FNAF World with also nothing shown inside. And what do we see in FNAF 6, the trap Henry made laid out in the shape of the box and what does Henry say about his trap in FNAF 6, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... "A labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune. A labyrinth with no exit, *a maze with no prize.* Aside from the obvious relations the lines have to the events in the story, the speech is about us as well. Sounds and smells relates to us playing the games, the jumpscares and stress we went through playing the games for answers. Misdirection and misfortune relates to the overall premise to the story, the tricks and false sense of security we have with our view of the lore but to have it changed when we get new games/information. A maze with no prize relates to what we go through to solve the story but nothing is actually hidden from us as it's all there we, just keep getting lost on what we have. I'm gonna run before I get attacked by an angry mob, later.
Maybe. I think I wanna wait for a few more books to come out and see if that might be the case since the interview threw everything I know about the pizzaplex out the window
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I'm still convinced the one retcon is aggressively boring. He said nobody noticed, so it can't be interesting, and there's one, aggressively boring, thing that cannot possibly be true.
He swapped the word "convicted" for "arrested" in the FNAF1 newspaper that says the killer was convicted. Afton couldn't possibly have been convicted because then he would be somewhere between dead and in prison for the rest of the series. He could, however, have been arrested and then not convicted because they couldn't find evidence.
Nobody noticed that he was around because he wasn't introduced until after this.
Personally I think it's who we play as in fnaf 2. One of the scrapped mechanics was a toxic meter with a found image as a purple tinted skull, while it could be a representation of poison, I believe we were supposed to play as Michael Afton night 1-5 because the skull is purple. Then we collectively theorised 1-5 guard as the bite victim, and Scott ran with it
I think the box was just a teaser for another game, a game that never happened. I think Scott said this when he said the “strings were never pulled on” in the interview. Scott had a plan in his mind but he scrapped it and we all just latched on to the box even though it was no longer important.
Exactly this
I don't think Scott ever had a clear idea of what was in the box and then bailed on it when the community got so obsessed with it. the box could never live up to the hype so he just keeps it around as lore tease but i guarantee even now he has no clue what he would want to be in the box. and at this point i think he's right in thinking nothing he could think of would satisfy the community i know i cant think of anything super satisfying at this point myself
i didnt change my mind about the box BUT i agree about the fnaf 3 ending!!!! makes a lol of sense!! especially we know one spirit refuses to let them all move on!!! so like yeah you set up for the gg but vengey is like throwing a tantrum forcing it to fail!! boom goes the dynamite!
Glad you agree with me on the retcon! I also agree with you that the hype around the box was too big and nomatter what Scott said, it wasn't gonna be enough for the fans.
Important to note, as someone who was around at the time, the Box wasn't seen as the most important thing to the lore, that's what it became after years of going unanswered. At the time, people had their theories but mostly treated it like any other mystery, we made our guesses and assumed we'd get our answer later.
So there was never anything inherently more interesting/important than other lore mysteries with the Box other than the fact it was hinting at future games.
So whatever WAS in the box is going to be something equally non-important. It's not going to be an Afton monologue that explains every motive or something, it would be something more like a picture of Springtrap with some hidden text that just says "I'm gonna get ya" and has "83" in the file properties, and it would just be another Scott Cawthon teaser
Well he’s stated it before, he once had an idea/general concept for it but it’s been lost/forgotten and he doesn’t know if he can really find it again so yeah in summary there is something but he forgot about what exactly it was/trying to do
@@isekai_neo Well I guess i just believe its a lil white lie Scott is telling about forgetting. like it may not be very popular for Scott to say 'I never had a solid idea of what was in the box' but again its just my thought i dont think Scott has thought about the story nearly as much as fans think he has especially early on when he was pumping out games. I love Fnaf and think Scott is a true creative. I just believe that with the story especially he was flying by the seat of his pants in that first year or two especially.
My three ideas about the box:
1. Most likely, the box was a teaser for a new FNAF game. This explains Scott's "Would the community accept it that way?' People hyped up the box like it would be some huge lore drop, when it was just a teaser.
2. An item connecting Mike Schmidt to FoxyBro.
3. Not likely, but I like this narratively: Inside the box is MCI's and CC's memories of being murdered. Throughout the franchise, we see that the way you save children's spirits is by altering their memories. The Happiest Day, for example, is CC's birthday changed from a bad to a good day. This is what "some things are best left forgotten" means. To save the spirits, you make them forget their trauma. Also, it explains "I will put you back together." Whoever puts on the happiest day is deconstructing the children's bad memories and putting them back together with happy memories. Idk if this makes sense.
About your second idea. It could be the pink slips from the first 2 games. Something we've seen and pretty simple. Fits in a box.
You know what's in the box? Another box.
lmao imagine scott "reveals" whats in the box, and it is just another box
@@TerminalError as the old box gets retconned....box anew will be birthed 🤣
@@TerminalErrorIt's actually an EMBARRASSING SNAPSHOT OF SPONGEBOB AT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY!
"Behind my mask... is another mask!"
I know Scott deconfirmed it or whatever but I love the theory that it's the golden freddy mask from happiest day. simple but effective
doesn't mean it can't be related to that in some way
I have two theories on what's in the box.
Theory 1. The Fredbear plush and Charlie's wristband. A reminder of what William and Henry lost. Two keys, two co-owners.
Theory 2. Mike's Foxy mask.
I like these theories put together, just like the pieces should have been
Theory 1 instantly creates a far more interesting dynamic than anything in the games.
Actually what’s in the box: Proof that CC has been resurrected(also the CC is Michael)
Could be both. Scott did say the contents of the box have changed over the years!
I think the box is the game version of finding Charlie in the closet. Maybe Micheal is a robot and the box contains his blueprints. This explains how Michael survived getting scooped, how he survived getting burned, how he is still chasing the ghosts for decades despite his injuries, and why he sits alone in his house every day not sleeping or socializing but just working every night and watching TV every day. He is not programmed to do anything else but work for his dad. Perhaps, he knew what he was from the start unlike Charlie and that's why he is not afraid of dying at the hands of the haunted animatronics.
ur mind!!
The Foxy Bro mask is in the box. Help Wanted 2 really reminded me of the box with the Bonnie Bully mask.
Not a bad theory! Is that what you think is currently in it or what was in it when it first came out?
Ok so like- if that was the case it would actually be reeeeallly cool and fit into the next game seamlessly where we play as Michael. It would imply that we are the foxy bro and connect/tease things beautifully in a vague but sensible way
I recall Scott said it was a scrapped plot line
I wonder if maybe CC was supposed to possess the puppet and no one clocked it
Ikr, everyone has been acting like “oho lol he forgor” but he literally said in the interview that he knows what’s in it, but it doesn’t matter anymore because it’s not cannon anymore.
@@JohnTKso why he hasn't Said It? It's frustrating, especially since he said It was "10 Years gift"
milk is in the box its the milk william promised to go get but never came back with
Milk inside a box of milk inside a box of milk
Just like my dad 🥲
That box gonna be ripe after 10 years of not taking the milk out
@@TerminalErrorthat’s why the contents in the box have changed cause the milk expired !!
But he always comes back 🥺
Okay, 3:18
I think originally it was supposed to be the foxy bully mask, but over time it became less of a “surprise”. The idea was changed, and eventually was forgotten entirely.
I have always LIKED the parallel of the fnaf 6 building to the box, but I don’t think it was intentional.
what inside the box is the lore.
You right
I have an idea. You said the retcon was related to Happiest Day and the souls not being freed, right? What if the retcon was that Happiest Day only freed the Crying Child? That'd explain why the other souls are still around, why Golden Eyes tells us (probably CC) to rest in the Clock Ending, why both 4 and World share so many similarities to the FNaF 3 minigames, why Faded tells Altered (CC) "THE PARTY WAS FOR YOU" in the Logbook, and why CC is never mentioned again in the story.
I like that a lot, actually! CC doesn't seem to return after the fnaf 3 fire and all the other spirits do!
i think the real box are the friends we made on the way
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Ive been listening to theory videos since 2014
This might be one of the best.
It gave me the lightbulb affect
I think youre right about the box
The box *was* a metaphor to the community to take a step back and forget everything they know up until that point, to take a break and come back some other time when Scott find a way to tell the pieces of the story he created in a better way.
In a way I mean that the box contains the books and screenplays Scott created for the community to enjoy.
I’m in the box!
We gotta get you out! It's been 10 years!
@@TerminalError
Thank you, please! I’ve in there since the game came out.
I think whats in the box is freddies gyatt
I always though that the box contained the games as books. The “4 Games, 1 Story”, the fact that the box contained “pieces”, FNAF 4 being the “Final Chapter”
Essentially I think the box was originally something he wanted to show us but after releasing games, books etc, he just didn't know if it was worth releasing the box so he just made it empty and left it up to us to interpret how we see the story since it tends to contradict itself so much, plus the fact he keeps wiggling it in front of our faces like a juicy steak infront of a dog, makes us salivate to theorize and keep buying games to hopefully learn the truth.
Pictures of fnaf 4 animatronic
Ooh, that's an interesting idea. Would they be normal (not nightmare), or look how they do in the game.
@@TerminalError I think the normal
The Friends we made along the way are in the Box
I have a crazy theory -- but I think Charlie's puppet could be put in the box. My main reasoning for this is because we're not entirely clear on where the puppet is relocated after Charlie gets put into Lefty. I'm sure people would say that the puppet was put into Lefty themselves, but there's not a lot to support this and overall I feel like the box would have something to do with a key character like Charlie.
Also, just a random relation to this, but Charlie is put into a box in one of the first three books, I forgot which one. The book explains certain things indirectly, like certain characters.
I know it's a crazy idea, but it's one i've never heard or at least never covered in detail.
Also I don't think it makes a lot of narrative sense for it to be retcons because everyone always runs with retcon ideas. Scott said there was one major retcon, I don't think it makes sense to go off of just that. There's probably just inconsistencies
I don't know what was originally in the box, but I think I can say what it is now. It's still "the pieces put together"... the Pizzeria Simulator. All the animatronics/spirits (the "pieces") gathered in one place ("put together"), to finally be set free.
I thought the misconception from fnaf 4 that got cleared up via sister location was the year fnaf 4 took place. People weren't really sure if it was 1983 or '87. But in the secret bunker in sister location inputting 1983 into the number pad shows the fnaf 4 bedroom and the plushtrap hallway on the screens.
i dont think the box can be anything "abstract" like retcons (at least at first) because it was meant to be opened twice, once in fnaf 4 halloween edition and once in fnaf world. it would be very hard to convey retcons in-game.
Idk, I think it’d be pretty cool if the box had something in it that proved Cassidy = The Crying Child, and The Vengeful Spirit = Michael. Is that what I think was originally inside it? No, not at all, UCN didn’t come out and therefore introduce us to The Vengeful Spirit until 2017 (iirc). But considering how much of Dual Process’ timeline/interpretations make sense, I think they’re the closest anyone’s ever gotten, even better than Gibi, and his timeline was my favorite until I watched Connie and Cori completely destroy it.
Orange Guy isn’t William, though. That’s an MCI parent, and those footprints are from the Spring Bonnie suit. “But it’s raining 🥺” William kidnapped the kid BEFORE it rained. That simple.
Inside the box is the friends we made along the way
2:57 I think it’s the memories of the crying child. Why? Someone told me this and I believe it.
lmao at least you're honest
honestly I just watched a massive theory about fnaf world giving the crying child his happiest day and knowing how it was supposed to be opened in fnaf world, I wanna say the box holds the crying child’s happiest day
I think in the box lays crying child's human/robotic remains
No , did not change my opinion
I think the contents of the box (back then) was :
-some family pictures showing that mike and dave are related to purple guy and the fact that william started his downward spiral because of his dead son
-A foxy mask, a security gaurd badge and a matchbox showing that mike was the main character of the past three games (and that he burns the places he works in)
-The fredbear plush with possessed looking eyes
This is not my idea, this is from a TH-camr called ‘Gibi’s horror homestead.’ He made a 9 hour long Fnaf video and in the hideo he discussed what he believed was in the box.
The Fredbear plush to show that the crying child possesses golden Freddy, a family picture labelled ‘The Schmidts’ to show that the crying child and Mike Schmidt are related (This would change to ‘The Acton’s’ when sister location came out) and matchsticks to show that the fnaf 3 security guard is Mike and burnt down Faxbear Frights.
I believe this is what is in the box
i think it was a family photograph of cc, Mike and two parents titled the Shmidts, and the security guard nametags. I think Scott changed this because he decided to pivot to the afton storyline, with Mike and CC being William's kids.
I think the original idea was that the box contained old toys, specifically the toys that you get in the custom night challenge on FNaF2
Finally a modern theory I can get behind.
This theory is actually genius tbh. Personally I always thought what was in the box was fnaf toys, figures etc that told us everything was a dream
The Foxy Mask and a picture of the Schmidts before they were retconned to be the Aftons, After that it was changed to CCs remains and now it's The Puppet/The Mimic
i do think the box is definitely buried in the midnight motorist mound, since if you go out of bounds in the flaf demo the "no secret lore here" text is inside a box shaped object in the dirt mound. I think it's gonna be revealed in flaf
The box contains the first season of the TV show "Lost" as a box set. It's a metaphor
I think the box is a metaphor for the entire story of FNAF. I don’t think that there is anything *literally* inside of the box, but that instead it’s a metaphor and therefore not literal.
I think the box has the ending inside
when the box is opened, the story ends
when all the pieces are put together, we won't have anymore pieces to add, signaling the end of fnaf, meaning the box has been opened
but at this point, almost no one would be satisfied with it ending.
I think that the box contains either the blueprints for the funtimes, or a sample of Faz-Goo
Not the faz goo!
The box contains all the friends we made whole trying to figure out the contents of the box.
Instantly clicked in this Video! The Guy in the suit telling us bis theory... Absolute Entertainment! Gold Job!👌
i liked the interpretation that the box was supposed to have affredbear mask for the crying child on his birthday that never ended up being used. doesn't seem like it effects the lore too much, so idk lol
I was in the box. I got bored and left.
As someone who disagrees with most of your Theories, this Theory is a Banger
Thank you! I'm really glad you liked it!
Pre Video Opinion:
The box is “the pieces put together” and the dialogue at the end says “I will put you back together”. The books releasing right around the same time in which the main character was a dead child recreated with pieces of agony. I believe in some form or fashion the crying child is in that box. It could be him rebuilt, it could be a taken apart golden Freddy that has his remnant. In some way, the crying child is in the box. At this point in the lore though it would be hard to reveal this, with the Afton family supposedly being put to rest.
honestly i think it wouldve been a puppet, to be the final thing that dream theory doesnt cover
I think the box was scrapped due to the poor reception of FNAF World, I think he had a certain idea planned for FNAF world but everyone hated it so much that he tried to pivot the story in a completely different way to the point where Scott couldn’t put anything in there that would make sense
My personal belief about the retcon is the fact that Mike Schmidt and William Afton were never supposed to be related. That being said, I do really like this theory
The box having bonnies left shoe is a good guess. It's just a weird shoebox
My guess of what's in the box:
(I think there must be 5 things to symbolise 5 Nights & 5 stages of grief)
1. Contract between William & Henry/ photo of them together in their costumes or with Henry holding some tools (Denial that William need's help with his business after the death of his son)
2. Murder weapon used to kill Charlie (anger at Henry)
3. 5 vials of silver remnant (bargaining through MCI sacrifice to get his son back from the dead)
4. Family photo of the Aftons with his wife & dauther's faces scratched out (depression about having lost so much)
5. Black Golden Freddy top hat 🎩 (acceptance that his son lives on in Golden Freddy)
I think cc is in the box, hence why golden freddy can teleport in a metaphysical way while the other animatronics, whose bodies are stuffed inside the animatronic, cannot.
I dont think that whatever Scott meant to be in the box is anything metaphorical like you describe because Scott intended the box to be solved, and expected it to be pretty quick, and he gave up on the box pretty quickly, in Game Theory's first FNaF4 video they mentioned that Scott had given up on it before they had a chance to make a video because 4 came out during Con Season. That means Scott intended for it to be solvable with just base FNaF4. (And potentially he believed it was obvious or surface level)
I do agree that Happiest Day could be Scott's One Retcon(i also like to point out that the details of the MCI mentioned in the FNaF1 Newspapers dont match any representation of the MCI in the series, and the newspapers also mention the suspect being charged but Afton is active through the whole series, and it would fit with Scott not having a plan for a series during FNaF 1) but i dont think something that indirect could be Scott's original vision for the box.
Thats why im fond of answets like "Psychic Friend Fredbear" or "Mike's Foxy Mask" cuz they're something we could have figured out at the time with some obvious surface level symbolism for why they're being locked away. Burying the guilt, etc.
The image of the box, open, in the FNAF World files, tells us it was meant to be opened by/in FNAF World.
The box is "the pieces put together". FNAF World puts the pieces in place. ("The pieces are in place for you.") And the pieces, put together, lead to Happiest Day.
Inside the box? Happiest Day. Perhaps represented by the Golden Freddy head with the lights out like we see in the good ending of FNAF 3.
Basically, telling us the story is over. The true ending. The reason the box was never opened? Well, Scott decided to continue the story.
after watching: personally i don't think there are as many retcons as people like to believe. I do think you're right in that originally the good ending was the ending, but then was moved to later in the timeline or changed in some way to let the story continue. So I guess my opinion didn't change much because the theory in this video is sorta similar - it all comes back to Happiest Day. Great video and I love this channel!
Fuckers at Freddy Fazbender's still want me to work, "Walk it off" they said after shooting me with a bear tranquilizer after I was already springlocked, NEVER WORK AT FREDDY'S!
never planned on working there but thanks for the heads up lol
My guess is that it contains a Fazbear work uniform or work paraphernalia that has blood on it or some other evidence linking the crying child's father to the missing children incidents
2:53 Scott said the contents have changed. Given all the heavy crying child puppet connections, I think it was the puppet at some point (I think Matpat had a similar conclusion). But then the charlie retcon happened.
The pieces put back together... Maybe it changed to the Fredbear plush from fnaf 4? But then we see the plush in Sister Location's secret room... Maybe... referencing the rare poster that can show up in fanf 6, maybe a clown doll, a bear, and a ventriloquist dummy? (and a photo, perhaps, as a nod to Afton? Or maybe a plush springbonnie.) Now, I'm pretty sure, in Scott's mind, the box is empty at this point. What lies there actually has been forgotten. Schrodinger's box, the contents do and don't exist at the same time....
I think the answer was always the Mimic as purple man, but such a retcon doesn't match up anymore...
I think in the box is literally all the pieces put together, in the sense of the lore, I've always thought this bc FNAF 3 was supposedly the last game, but then scott made the 4th to make more scary jumpscares, so IMO the box was supposed to contain all the answers, and the community wouldn't be ready because it would destroy the theory community, witch i think is close to most of the fan base, not even thinking about many people that would be angry discovering their theories were just worng
I think its the first three fnaf games as video game cartridges. It would support dream theory, as well as explain why scott wouldnt want to share what was in the box anymore
Awesome theory, Terminal. It has a lot of merit and I like how you use his tweet as a check list to find what the retcon is.
Thanks! Really glad you liked it!
Evidence to Dream Theory was in the box
In Ruin Candy Cadet summerizes the events of the game (or rather DLC) you're playing. Scott has always added details in later games to clear up confusion from past games and I think this falls into that category because otherwise Ruined Candy Cadet only exists to tell us about a plot twist that we already expect by the point in the game we meet him at which doesn't feel right (to me at least). Him being in Ruin could be to tell as that his stories in FFPS/FNaF6 are telling the events of that game.
I think Candy Cadet was telling us that Henry's plan wouldn't be successful. I think he was telling us that everyone in the FNaF 6 ending would become part of The Tangle, perhaps even being where UCN takes place since all the needed characters would be there (the MCI are around through one of the Scrap animatronics. While that is a big leap to assume, it's an incredibly popular and widely believed theory). This would even line up with the stories setting up future games, UCN and HW2.
I think all the pieces put together is The Tangle. Or more realistically, the Funtime Freddy mask that The Tangle wears.
I'm not gonna pretend it's a flawless theory, but I think it works pretty well. It doesnt answer what was in there in the past, be it answers what may be in there currently.In Ruin Candy Cadet summerizes the events of the game (or rather DLC) you're playing. Scott has always added details in later games to clear up confusion from past games and I think this falls into that category because otherwise Ruined Candy Cadet only exists to tell us about a plot twist that we already expect by the point in the game we meet him at which doesn't feel right (to me at least). Him being in Ruin could be to tell as that his stories in FFPS/FNaF6 are telling the events of that game.
I think Candy Cadet was telling us that Henry's plan wouldn't be successful. I think he was telling us that everyone in the FNaF 6 ending would become part of The Tangle, perhaps even being where UCN takes place since all the needed characters would be there (the MCI are around through one of the Scrap animatronics. While that is a big leap to assume, it's an incredibly popular and widely believed theory). This would even line up with the stories setting up future games, UCN and HW2.
I think all the pieces put together is The Tangle. Or more realistically, the Funtime Freddy mask that The Tangle wears.
I'm not gonna pretend it's a flawless theory, but I think it works pretty well. It doesnt answer what was in there in the past, be it answers what may be in there currently.
I have a few little things that don't line up with my theory, though.
Why does he say 5 in every story in FFPS when it would be 6? Scrap Baby, Molten Freddy, Afton, Lefty, Mike, and Henry would make it 6. I guess we could say that it didnt show Lefty burn. Or that Mike wasnt planned to be there. Or that maybe Mike would possesses Glamrock Freddy. Or Scrap Baby and Molten Freddy just count as Ennard. Or that Henry may have lived. But that doesn't feel satisfying at all. We could also say that Molten Freddy isnt haunted, so they don't count... but then we lose the most popular way to have the MCI kids there for UCN. I don't have a satisfying solution for the number 5.
Not to mention that there's not much indication of the MCI kids being part of the Funtimes in the games at all. That's a pretty big thing not to show. Even Henry and William got expanded upon in the games meanwhile the Classics being melted into the Funtimes isn't inplied in the games (at least not enough to have any amount of certainty).
Either way, that's the closest I can think of on the spot
This theory is hilarious. Scott confirming the contents of the box has changed means the box has been retconned multiple times, so if your theory is correct then the box contains a box which contains a box which contains a box ad infinitum.
Outside of that silly idea I really enjoyed this theory as it makes the "pieces put together" quote make a lot of sense without taking the fnaf 4 ending literally. The 2 keys making the 1 solution also reminds me of candy cadet even if his stories were meant to be for fnaf 6's story and not the box.
I think there is a foxy mask in the box, It would be a great ending for Mike's story. Not necessarily the pieces put together but, it is still a memory that he wishes to forget. The day that he killed is little brother and destroyed his own family. And seeing that the context for Fnaf 4 are the nightmares/hallucinations that mike is experiencing, I think that a foxy mask (the one he used on the of his brother's murder) is something that he would lock inside that box.
I think, from a recent theory I saw, that Mike's Foxy mask and a security badge was in the box. The argument was that the box was supposed to confirm something for us, namely that the big brother in FNAF 4 is the night guard but Scott hadn't seen evidence of anyone theorising along those lines. He dropped hints during the theorist's livestream around that time that was supposed to hint towards that, such as 'Four games, one story', but that took theorists in a different direction still, so he chose to keep the contents hidden. As to why he didn't open the box later, when theories about Mike being the protagonist of the series arose, I think it is also true that the contents probably changed over time.
Edit: I don't know if my opinion on the box has changed, but I do think the idea that the 'complicated' canon ending of FNAF 3 being the retcon Scott mentioned is a worthwhile idea.
Original I think the Box had the “keys” to the Happiest day mini game, those Clocks we put in piece in FNAF world, something that wouldn’t make the community happy as now meta-games and games within games are important lore and how can we tell what was real vs what not real from FNAF 1-4, like dream theory did the community wouldn’t except meta games within games that effect both sides.(at the time and now it’s obvious that what the minigames were) Now I think what’s in the Box is a secret that Scott never fully decided what it should be yet as it’s important to the Afton Family.
I think what’s in the box is the golden Freddy plush
I think it’s gonna be psychic friend fredbear and you can see it’s got the camera and mic
maybe the fredbear plush it says somethings are best left forgotten so maybe mr A. Locked it up to try to forget his son's death at the hands of the fredbear animatronic he made.
have to say, im really impressed with your channel. I've only watched your Phone Guy theory so far but you bring new and insightful thinking to the community. I liked feeling like part of the theory, making us think about it for ourselves instead of just watching what a theorist is saying. I hope more people get to find your channel! I'm not done with the video since I'm thinking about what's in The box but I think it's some uhhh, it's a McGriddle. with two bites in it (source: it was me)
edit: oh. my. goodness. I'm STILL not done with the video 10:54, I'm blown away with the new theories you got!
I think whats in the box is various item from all the key lore bits such as the foxy mask Michael wore, or maybe pictures from fredbears, stuff like that. What i really want to be in there is vhs tapes or cctv pictures of william committing his crimes
2:56 the foxy mask that Micheal wears to scare his brother edit: I don’t necessarily change my mind but that was a good theory and the best theory I found
crying child and mike are robots all along, heck it is something the community wouldnt except after all
I forget where I first head it but the fnaf world being the box just sounds funny to me.
My best guess is that its some sort keep sake reminder William would have of CC. The box’s major appearance is its first in FNAF4 so it has to be connected to that story uniquely more than others even if it involves the “pieces” that are the first three stories, i.e. it involves CC. If it connects to all three previous stories, the only physical object I can think of is the fredbear plush it represents the character the whole franchise begins with (1), obscuring tragedies of the past (2), Springbonnie’s (William’s) counterpart (3), CC’s fav animatronic that ends up causing his death (fnaf 4). The only gripe is that its kinda too big just for that but if its multiple items it’d def be included.
It's Schrodinger's animtronic cat. It's everything till we open the box
I think all his bad memoryses are in the. Box
I'm leaving 2 comments for two very different thoughts.
Comment 1: there is something every one has forgotten, Scott is a untrustworthy story teller by because 1) help wanted 2) Scott awnsered questions in fallow up games.
Help wanted told us that the original games are unsanctioned fan tellings of events that happend at. Fazzbears location. Fazbear entertainment has used this as a spring board for their Mega Pizza Plex. Meaning.
The box is two slabs of wood put together. Yep it's nothing. Because the story teller doesn't know what it is. It hasn't been planned yet
I think rn I believe that scott didn't 100% have the contents of the box figured out, he also mentioned the contents have changed since. I'm susbribed to the idea that it was and still is a metaphor, it being included in one of the most confusing games it makes sense plus would the community accept the "contents" ie. the story of fnaf? and the fact that the community was torn from fnaf4 he decides it's best to keep in locked. I think if it had been a physical object then scott would've opened it by now as he likes to give the community help from time to time, tho nearly 10 years later nothing revealed. Scott is aware at how observant but also how "energetic" the community is and it probably is for the best it stays locked
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The foxy mask is in the box.
The Box has the One Piece in it and the One Piece is The Box. It's infinite recursion.
The box theory is probably a bit off, but the retcon would probably be the happiest days ending. Since it was supposed to be the last game, he gave us a good ending, then had to pivot, and we still had souls to worry about with the last game being a golden Freddy fight.
The seamless transition is probably the 2 souls theory, the first golden Freddy soul moved on after that ending, the 2nd stuck around until the end of the series.
Of curse it's Jack, it's in his name: Jack in the box
We gotta get him out! It's been almost 10 years!
4:07 I always thought the retcon was Bite of '87 to Bite of '83, but then again- I've always been convinced that it's impossible for the series to only have one retcon. Either more things had to be retconned, Scott has been leaving out MASSIVE chunks of information, or the community has been completely incorrect on several GIGANTIC pieces of basic information for years. One such example? The newspaper clippings that explicitly say somebody was arrested for the MCI in FNaF 1.
Either Scott entirely omitted the fact that somebody was falsely arrested, or that William was arrested and let go due to them not finding the bodies (despite technicians working on the old suits some time before FNaF 2...), OR there have been multiple murderers this entire time, OR Scott retconned that piece of text. Most people can probably agree that there weren't multiple murderers, so he either just never felt it would be relevant to place this arrest onto the timeline, or it never actually happened.
Bonnie’s left shoe
edit: nvm it was the right
How could I not see the right shoe coming! It's so simple! It solves everything!
i’m not a free thinker, i’m just a mindless sheep, so i think that Gibi’s horror is the most likely theory
Remember Scott just said what is in the box is unimportant right now not that he forgot or didn’t have a vague idea what it is
Also Scott didn’t say he retconned the story of Fnaf 4. Just that he tried telling the story in a different way
if scott ever had a clear idea of what was in that box i dont think its anything we'd ever be able to guess. if it was something really concrete/directly from the game, like a golden freddy mask or cc's remains or the puppet or whatever, i think scott wouldve remembed that and either just say what it was or say he doesnt want to reveal it. if he forgot what exactly was in the box whatever was in there was probably something abstract that relates to the lore in a very metaphorical way rather than literal
I think the retcon is FNAF 1's missing children incident it stated that 5 children went missing but FNAF 2 and onward 6 dead children seems to be the magic number also it states that the suspect was convicted for the missing children but based on what little we know about the timeline the suspect never served their time in prison
Food for thought:
Maybe it doesn't make sense, but I've always thought both endings of Fnaf 3 are canon. The minigames I felt were more symbolic than literal.
I say both are canon because in a sense, technically you do free the spirits at the end of Fnaf 6.
Drinking game, take a shot every time he says box
I like it! I'm working on a FNAF 1-4 theory, because I do think there was an intended story that has changed, but I really like this idea of the retcon being the endings, very interesting. I have a more concrete answer for what's in the box because I have a more specific guess of the intended story and what ends up getting changed around. I don't want to say too much but it's related to the idea of Charlie's gender being the retcon.
I think the box has nothing in it.
Before I get swarmed by flaming pitchforks hear me out. Scott has said many times that the answers are there just misunderstood, they may of been tweaked and heck 1 was a full retcon that Scott said barely changed anything (Puppet spirit being female instead of male imo). Where have we heard that before
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
"The pieces are in place for you" Glitchy Friend Fredbear. Yes this relates to doing Happiest day but think of it this way, the Box is open in FNAF World with also nothing shown inside. And what do we see in FNAF 6, the trap Henry made laid out in the shape of the box and what does Henry say about his trap in FNAF 6, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
"A labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune. A labyrinth with no exit, *a maze with no prize.*
Aside from the obvious relations the lines have to the events in the story, the speech is about us as well.
Sounds and smells relates to us playing the games, the jumpscares and stress we went through playing the games for answers.
Misdirection and misfortune relates to the overall premise to the story, the tricks and false sense of security we have with our view of the lore but to have it changed when we get new games/information.
A maze with no prize relates to what we go through to solve the story but nothing is actually hidden from us as it's all there we, just keep getting lost on what we have.
I'm gonna run before I get attacked by an angry mob, later.
Can you make a theory about if burn trap is the mimic?
Maybe. I think I wanna wait for a few more books to come out and see if that might be the case since the interview threw everything I know about the pizzaplex out the window