Love this in detail talk, and keep on talking about the uses and complexity of some of the items. It is important to understand, and you can always wait 2 weeks for your website, if you just want the tierlist. Sorry for repeating points from previous video, if you've already seen them: 1) The red and orange is a bit difficult to separate, maybe turn the orange more towards the yellow IG color? (If not easy, keep it as is for consistency between vids) 2) Timeline indicators/titles for each item. 3) Probably put in a Keen Wisdom +25 or similar for benchmark for Supp/Mage/Archer, e.g. as a B tier? Thus, instead of refereeing as in the beginning, then we know where it stands as a "bare minimum". For C or D, rather lvl a second KW then wasting ressources. 4) For furture Healers, Dolores mainly, Keen Wisdom vs Golden Scarab discussion. I've recently min-max spreadsheet on when to use what, +25 KW breaks even with +22 GS at 10689 ATK and +25 GS 11548 ATK pre artifact atk bonus no matter Pantheon bonus. Thus, KW will always give more ATK bonus when a dolores is above 11548 ATK pre Artifact. However, the exact difference is very small roughly 200 diff at both maxed. taken into account the added rage effect, GS is roughly better when +16/+19, in my opinion. (maybe useful, maybe you already calculated it with the HugMonster)
Yes another super useful guide, Thank you! I was lucky enough to pull on of your most wanted lord, Cyrus. And i use the Tuning Crystal on him and it does some work! Really impressive numbers tbh
Honestly, same points. It is truly nieche, but OMG GvG on Cyrus (s to S+), all worth the mythril. You think you get into a lazy double tank combo, but o boi you get disapointed.
Awesome video Fasti. Thank you kindly for the shout out. Both of us get joy from helping others succeed. Cyrus using Tuning Crystal in GR1-20 Did 44m heals and 198m DMG. Had him in SA and he was the only DMG dealer in the run.
I need more of these. I have too many artifacts and needed some guidance on what to sell. Between fighter and defender tier lists im down to 180 artifacts and can now forge 10 at a time. Keep em coming Fast
This is helpful because the other major artifacts tier list isn’t really updated. And sometimes I can’t see the value in a given artifact based on its write up.
I actually use the tuning crystal on my cyrus because he can sustain himself. The arti that increases damage every time he takes damage isnt great because hes not always getting hit. The tuning crystal gives him more damage and self sustain which is useful occasionally
The exclusive artifacts video will be a blessing. It's really difficult to choose between a really powerful mythic artifact and the exclusive version, like Khamet's.
Death Knell came in clutch for my account when I was beating the AMR 18 for the first time. My Olague wasn't tanky enough but with the extra healing, it did the trick for me to unlock power of dominance.
@@fastidious_gg overtime The North's Will is better for sure but for 1 time use Death Knell provides more heal and some def. So how i as going about my AMR i would spawn boss right in the middle of 2 tiles that means olague had to survive untill the first shield, and at that time i would be placing healer. But it was way better early on as for example a lot of ppl didnt have olague at start i got it for free in void rift, and u dont have that many shielded heroes out there. i did have isolde but some mod told me to go with livian as my first 6 star tank for AMR and that artifact was clutch. I mean normaly your content is good but this artifacts seem rushed not well investigated, and all the options where something can be good. Same was for crit rate lego for healers, and u say your fav hero is Artemis that has A1 50% crit and that item seems to be perfect for him, maybe not but super lategame could be good.
I healed my way through 2-21 instead of using a volka bounce strat, regal crest helped top everyone off between the shriek and the pound. Thats the only time i used it tho
I was actually doing some theory crafting after pulling my first Tuning Crystal. Maybe its trash but who knows... Basically, Orim with max ATK, CR% plus normal DPS stats including AS. Every 5 crits, he does 200% DMG which will synergise with the Tuning Crystal effect dealing bursts of 400% DMG that can crit every 10s and 200% in between. Even with his relatively low attack, it might slap. But like I said, it could still be trash.
Great work again! I agree with a few other people that goddesses grace should be higher. Also, there is a very niche use for heart of thorn and that is tide. With the huge huge hp boost ground units get, it actually does a huge amount of damage there and can help clear some stages. But who even still does tide.😢 But if they ever release something similar... it can jump up to A or S tier.
Godesses grace and regal crest should probably both go up a rank but its nice to see norths glory get the place it deserves. (Godesses grace makes gearing nicer when you have to start building defence, regal crest is great against heal reduction (Selene stages and Laseer boss in VR))
I've been promoting Rex's Vox for Oluage for heavy single Mob damage for the longest. It a world of difference in NM void rift against the slow heavy hitting golems.
Regal crest(+20% heal received) is so good, Olag or King Harz can tank Crimson Star inside the plague indefinitly with it in void rift Nightmare (it's one of the boss of the phase 2)
Yes I know Crimson Star well. North's Will is certainly better for tanking the portal. If you mean up front. Interesting idea. I have never tanked the boss with a defender
@@fastidious_gg i did it with 1 defender at botom left with regal crest + 2 healers, one mage on top right + mari and then One marksman that u spawn and despawn to make the big guys rush the to their death on the mage without their healers. even have 2 extra slot for dolores and one lord ( in my case dolores was only usefull for the last wave of mobs) meanwhile olag and the 2 healers block the boss indefinitly, when everyone is dead just despawn ur mage and marksman and kill the boss with them when they are up. probably slow strat but that the only way i manage to do it but it was quite easy and no hard to get hero are needed to clear it this way i guess
I like Astral Obelisk a ton, too, and it is best-in-slot for Captain Reve. He self-heals, so the regen is always active, and he gets use out of the increased ATK. Reve's effectiveness is largely based on the uptime of his ultimate, so the Rage Regen is key. I do have Reve's exclussive at +13, so I might relook my best-in-slot opinion at some point, but for now it's still AO. I've got a +25 Bloodlust Phylactery on Torodor most of the time, because I have him on a damage build most of the time. I've got a +25 Nightmare Serpent on Titus, because it's one of the few ways he can get healed. One thing that really disappointed me about the Soulbane Rosary is that it's HP reduction takes place before the Glacier jewelry HP conversion. If it happened afterwards, it might be more usable to turn certain Defenders into more of a bruiser role. I'm glad to see the HP-reduction reduces with improvements. I used to use Tuning Crystal on Reve, and I think it's second best for him, but I think Astral Obelisk is just better. I've been using Tuning Crystal on Cyrus, especially in the swarm IC.
I use bloodlust on Torodor when I'm dropping him in to cb. The aoe dmg is less useful. But this is really the only case and pretty specific to a lust comp. I've also used on Cyrus mostly because I have levels into it so good base stats.
Thx for these guides! Combined with the recent artifact inventory limit increase, my artifact management is humming along now. I'm really curious about Thorn. Saw a guide by MurderInc that speculated it might have potential. I wonder if it would be better if it always activated, with tuned down damage.
Just wanted to add to others on cyrus imo no other artifact is as good as Tuning Crystal. When i was doing some testing he can SOLO gr1-19 with it on but cannot if i use something else as an example. I have Cyrus built with 65k hp, 15k Atk, 100% cr, 300%cd, 198 spd in a Soulbound Arcana set because is ult is up constantly so i get the 50% damage boost pretty early in the fight. Its also very good in GvG because my healer can focus others to keep them alive
Hmm, I could see a use case for the Regal Crest and the extra received healing. The AOE healers don't heal large single target numbers, because they are healing everyone. I could see a situation where AOE healers become more useful (currently not a lot of content that makes them the right option, but it could exist down the road,) and having the tank able to get a heal that is closer to what a single or multi target healer would heal for *could* be good. I know that's a lot of "well if the right content existed it could maybe be good," going on though lol. Or maybe if you are using Ezryn to heal a tank out of range and so he's not going to get frequent heals at all, so they need to be really sizable when they DO land? Yeah still pretty niche.
How do you think a soulbound rosary would perform on say a Torodor in guild boss since you can build hom for dps? Granted he is not a dps but as a legendary lord he still has a spot on the team.
rex vow and norths will best two lego ones especially on olague and brokkir and reg and more on my baby account i started with livian then got olague and recently baron cant remember what artifacts i got im on the just lego meteorites stage which is an improvement but need work on them on next training event i think them events are on Thursdays now would love one of them waiting on AMR event to come around i would like to see those events more regular
Need some advice... Torador - I am running him as a damage dealer/defense down with Astral. Is Astral better than Tuning Crystal? I have a maxed Crystal on my Cryus which is GODLY. TIA
Thank you for the fast answer. On a completely different note.Lunerias passive: Each stack inc the marked dmg taken by 8% stacking 5 times. It kinda reads like it should be all dmg taken but it feels like it is just for her. @@fastidious_gg
Yea he has a huge shield during his ult on top of the self freeze. He also gets tons of shields of course if u run a northerner lord like dagna isolde or the leggos
i think rage regen tho they get rage regen from been atked right so no need for rage regen stats ? getting there ults faster is better reg can build speed on him livian to
Goddess grace ranking is illegal. It’s literally best artifact for ghan. and tuning crystal is trash on ghan(he BARELY basic attacks for it to work)only for captain reeve
bastion ring is a no brainer on keen wisdom i think i may of found a better one the onieric band atk and speed decent atk and legendary better flat stats than keen wisdom
I’m very interested in the artifacts, I keep preaching to my guild mates of the importance of heavy farming of AMR, especially when it’s an oracle trial. I think your list is pretty much spot on, I have one adjustment though, regal crest, it’s utter 💩 I believe it belongs in D. The only separation from it and the rest of D is that it has better stats, but it’s not a saving grace for me, I think it’s the worst artifact for tanks. Rex’s vow……why no mention or Olague??? That man is a living shield. He needs no help from any Lord bonus, healer shield maker or even an ult to gain a shield. He does it himself and then gains 20% dmg reduction, perfect synergy.
Love this in detail talk, and keep on talking about the uses and complexity of some of the items. It is important to understand, and you can always wait 2 weeks for your website, if you just want the tierlist. Sorry for repeating points from previous video, if you've already seen them:
1) The red and orange is a bit difficult to separate, maybe turn the orange more towards the yellow IG color? (If not easy, keep it as is for consistency between vids)
2) Timeline indicators/titles for each item.
3) Probably put in a Keen Wisdom +25 or similar for benchmark for Supp/Mage/Archer, e.g. as a B tier? Thus, instead of refereeing as in the beginning, then we know where it stands as a "bare minimum". For C or D, rather lvl a second KW then wasting ressources.
4) For furture Healers, Dolores mainly, Keen Wisdom vs Golden Scarab discussion. I've recently min-max spreadsheet on when to use what, +25 KW breaks even with +22 GS at 10689 ATK and +25 GS 11548 ATK pre artifact atk bonus no matter Pantheon bonus. Thus, KW will always give more ATK bonus when a dolores is above 11548 ATK pre Artifact. However, the exact difference is very small roughly 200 diff at both maxed. taken into account the added rage effect, GS is roughly better when +16/+19, in my opinion. (maybe useful, maybe you already calculated it with the HugMonster)
Strong calcs on KW. For me, scarab is best for nearly all content outside of GB. But more on that soon :)
And I totally hear you on the colors. I noticed it too
Yes another super useful guide, Thank you! I was lucky enough to pull on of your most wanted lord, Cyrus. And i use the Tuning Crystal on him and it does some work! Really impressive numbers tbh
Yeah, use it on my Cyrus as well. It does so much healing. Not so much on the Codex as they don’t take damage, but in GvG and GR1 it’s Nasty
Honestly, same points. It is truly nieche, but OMG GvG on Cyrus (s to S+), all worth the mythril. You think you get into a lazy double tank combo, but o boi you get disapointed.
I also like it on Isolde. Doesn't help her tankiness as much as a Bastion ring but synergises with her kit as she basically already has one built in.
Awesome video Fasti. Thank you kindly for the shout out. Both of us get joy from helping others succeed. Cyrus using Tuning Crystal in GR1-20 Did 44m heals and 198m DMG. Had him in SA and he was the only DMG dealer in the run.
I need more of these. I have too many artifacts and needed some guidance on what to sell. Between fighter and defender tier lists im down to 180 artifacts and can now forge 10 at a time. Keep em coming Fast
This is helpful because the other major artifacts tier list isn’t really updated. And sometimes I can’t see the value in a given artifact based on its write up.
Tremendous Help with This video. Brilliant. Thanks a bunch for this .
totally my pleasure
I actually use the tuning crystal on my cyrus because he can sustain himself. The arti that increases damage every time he takes damage isnt great because hes not always getting hit. The tuning crystal gives him more damage and self sustain which is useful occasionally
My Cyrus got 44m heals in GR1-20 using that Tuning Crystal only at level 16. My favorite hero, in SA he is a god.
The exclusive artifacts video will be a blessing. It's really difficult to choose between a really powerful mythic artifact and the exclusive version, like Khamet's.
Death Knell came in clutch for my account when I was beating the AMR 18 for the first time. My Olague wasn't tanky enough but with the extra healing, it did the trick for me to unlock power of dominance.
Happy it helped you progress. No doubt in my mind tho North's Will would have been superior
@@fastidious_gg overtime The North's Will is better for sure but for 1 time use Death Knell provides more heal and some def. So how i as going about my AMR i would spawn boss right in the middle of 2 tiles that means olague had to survive untill the first shield, and at that time i would be placing healer. But it was way better early on as for example a lot of ppl didnt have olague at start i got it for free in void rift, and u dont have that many shielded heroes out there. i did have isolde but some mod told me to go with livian as my first 6 star tank for AMR and that artifact was clutch. I mean normaly your content is good but this artifacts seem rushed not well investigated, and all the options where something can be good. Same was for crit rate lego for healers, and u say your fav hero is Artemis that has A1 50% crit and that item seems to be perfect for him, maybe not but super lategame could be good.
Tuning Crystal is pretty darn good on Captain Reve as you were saying 👍
I healed my way through 2-21 instead of using a volka bounce strat, regal crest helped top everyone off between the shriek and the pound. Thats the only time i used it tho
I was actually doing some theory crafting after pulling my first Tuning Crystal. Maybe its trash but who knows...
Basically, Orim with max ATK, CR% plus normal DPS stats including AS. Every 5 crits, he does 200% DMG which will synergise with the Tuning Crystal effect dealing bursts of 400% DMG that can crit every 10s and 200% in between. Even with his relatively low attack, it might slap. But like I said, it could still be trash.
Great work again! I agree with a few other people that goddesses grace should be higher. Also, there is a very niche use for heart of thorn and that is tide. With the huge huge hp boost ground units get, it actually does a huge amount of damage there and can help clear some stages. But who even still does tide.😢 But if they ever release something similar... it can jump up to A or S tier.
Godesses grace and regal crest should probably both go up a rank but its nice to see norths glory get the place it deserves.
(Godesses grace makes gearing nicer when you have to start building defence, regal crest is great against heal reduction (Selene stages and Laseer boss in VR))
I've been promoting Rex's Vox for Oluage for heavy single Mob damage for the longest. It a world of difference in NM void rift against the slow heavy hitting golems.
Regal crest(+20% heal received) is so good, Olag or King Harz can tank Crimson Star inside the plague indefinitly with it in void rift Nightmare (it's one of the boss of the phase 2)
Yes I know Crimson Star well. North's Will is certainly better for tanking the portal. If you mean up front. Interesting idea. I have never tanked the boss with a defender
@@fastidious_gg i did it with 1 defender at botom left with regal crest + 2 healers, one mage on top right + mari and then One marksman that u spawn and despawn to make the big guys rush the to their death on the mage without their healers. even have 2 extra slot for dolores and one lord ( in my case dolores was only usefull for the last wave of mobs) meanwhile olag and the 2 healers block the boss indefinitly, when everyone is dead just despawn ur mage and marksman and kill the boss with them when they are up. probably slow strat but that the only way i manage to do it but it was quite easy and no hard to get hero are needed to clear it this way i guess
It's funny you mention it man. My mum loves defenders
I like Astral Obelisk a ton, too, and it is best-in-slot for Captain Reve. He self-heals, so the regen is always active, and he gets use out of the increased ATK. Reve's effectiveness is largely based on the uptime of his ultimate, so the Rage Regen is key. I do have Reve's exclussive at +13, so I might relook my best-in-slot opinion at some point, but for now it's still AO.
I've got a +25 Bloodlust Phylactery on Torodor most of the time, because I have him on a damage build most of the time.
I've got a +25 Nightmare Serpent on Titus, because it's one of the few ways he can get healed.
One thing that really disappointed me about the Soulbane Rosary is that it's HP reduction takes place before the Glacier jewelry HP conversion. If it happened afterwards, it might be more usable to turn certain Defenders into more of a bruiser role. I'm glad to see the HP-reduction reduces with improvements.
I used to use Tuning Crystal on Reve, and I think it's second best for him, but I think Astral Obelisk is just better. I've been using Tuning Crystal on Cyrus, especially in the swarm IC.
I use bloodlust on Torodor when I'm dropping him in to cb. The aoe dmg is less useful. But this is really the only case and pretty specific to a lust comp. I've also used on Cyrus mostly because I have levels into it so good base stats.
Thx for these guides! Combined with the recent artifact inventory limit increase, my artifact management is humming along now.
I'm really curious about Thorn. Saw a guide by MurderInc that speculated it might have potential. I wonder if it would be better if it always activated, with tuned down damage.
Thanks for the guide Fastidious!
Artifact cleanse guide will be awesome.
Just wanted to add to others on cyrus imo no other artifact is as good as Tuning Crystal. When i was doing some testing he can SOLO gr1-19 with it on but cannot if i use something else as an example. I have Cyrus built with 65k hp, 15k Atk, 100% cr, 300%cd, 198 spd in a Soulbound Arcana set because is ult is up constantly so i get the 50% damage boost pretty early in the fight. Its also very good in GvG because my healer can focus others to keep them alive
I'd like a sale tier assigned. Yes something is better than nothing. But it is a short window
helpful guide can't wait for the website!
Heart of the thorn is usefull in gr2 in the beginner Stages :D
much better beginner options imo. but to each their own :D
it keeps me wondering.. why is there no magic defense increaes or resistance in the game -_-. i do hope they add it. nice vid!
That is a great shout
I really like tuning crystal on my torodor, the extra damage is nice
Hmm, I could see a use case for the Regal Crest and the extra received healing. The AOE healers don't heal large single target numbers, because they are healing everyone. I could see a situation where AOE healers become more useful (currently not a lot of content that makes them the right option, but it could exist down the road,) and having the tank able to get a heal that is closer to what a single or multi target healer would heal for *could* be good. I know that's a lot of "well if the right content existed it could maybe be good," going on though lol. Or maybe if you are using Ezryn to heal a tank out of range and so he's not going to get frequent heals at all, so they need to be really sizable when they DO land? Yeah still pretty niche.
I use bloodlust Phylactery on Orim in GB cause he is generating burns. I don't have Setram so I am maxing out my Infernals with him
We need to be able to trade epic champion dust for mythrial.
Regal crest is pretty niche. I think it’s great on Reve who self heals. I don’t think much content is made for this need though unfortunately
I put the tuning on my toroador on guild boss and he helps me hit 41k blood
Great work Fas
How do you think a soulbound rosary would perform on say a Torodor in guild boss since you can build hom for dps? Granted he is not a dps but as a legendary lord he still has a spot on the team.
Viable. I think for guild boss that or Obelisk is BiS. Other content I would use Tuning
For me I focus only on Bastion arti because it has an extra block plus physical def and magical def....tank should be tough ..😊🇵🇭
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Heart of thorn isnt bad for tide though. I use it on my baron and he does some decent damage
Nice work!! Well done!!
It hasn't been posted long enough for you to post this comment. 3 min active.
Lol
@@dravencastle284well since I was in his stream last night I saw most of it. So I already know it’s good.
Thank you! Cheers!
draven yes vice is my stream mod so he saw all the prep and my initial tierlist ranking live
rex vow and norths will best two lego ones especially on olague and brokkir and reg and more on my baby account i started with livian then got olague and recently baron cant remember what artifacts i got im on the just lego meteorites stage which is an improvement but need work on them on next training event i think them events are on Thursdays now would love one of them waiting on AMR event to come around i would like to see those events more regular
Need some advice... Torador - I am running him as a damage dealer/defense down with Astral. Is Astral better than Tuning Crystal? I have a maxed Crystal on my Cryus which is GODLY.
TIA
Fastidious, what do you think about using tunning crystal on Boreas? I'm terrible confused about this one and got one recently
boreas is a mage haha
my moms into fighters
Share them both with her and let her decide
Have you tried Tuning Crystal on Torodor? Both the champ and artifact is new accusations for me so can't really give a proper judgement.
could be a nice match. mid game good be excellent on Torodor in GR1 or resource raids
Thank you for the fast answer. On a completely different note.Lunerias passive: Each stack inc the marked dmg taken by 8% stacking 5 times. It kinda reads like it should be all dmg taken but it feels like it is just for her. @@fastidious_gg
Bloodlust Phylactery is good on Orim imo.
It is usable but would be outclassed by Tuning and Astral
Phylactery effects burn damage, tuning doesn't. But astral is definitely better.
Death knell got me tgru gr2 21 on my baron
does the blood lust phlactory increas jorges dam from plague
i have a question we know regulus and olague have a shield but does brokkirs freeze count as a shield
Yea he has a huge shield during his ult on top of the self freeze. He also gets tons of shields of course if u run a northerner lord like dagna isolde or the leggos
@@fastidious_gg tx was not to sure
i think rage regen tho they get rage regen from been atked right so no need for rage regen stats ? getting there ults faster is better reg can build speed on him livian to
i think the defenders artifacts need a rework except a few that are usable
Would tuning crystal be best in slot for cyrus?
Goddess grace ranking is illegal. It’s literally best artifact for ghan. and tuning crystal is trash on ghan(he BARELY basic attacks for it to work)only for captain reeve
Yea I said Goddess grace is best in slot for ghan. Tuning is quite solid on him tho. I have tested in on TS and it is a solid dps alternative
@@fastidious_gg yeah but b tier was kinda….
Thx👍🏻😁
You’re welcome 😊
At what tier and below can I just sale? C tier?
bastion ring is a no brainer on keen wisdom i think i may of found a better one the onieric band atk and speed decent atk and legendary better flat stats than keen wisdom
oneiric band is class exclusive for healers only
tuning crystal is great on volka
how exactly?
Have you spent 41 days testing artifacts (1000 hours), thats crazy man, im 6 months in i prob dont have that much time in the entire game /s
Sir, I did not mean I spent 1000 hrs just testing defender artifacts. But no question I have over 1k hrs (or 41 days) of gameplay in the game.
New content creator here for WoR. Hoping to get some love from the community. Thanks :D
Welcome aboard!
@@fastidious_gg ty :)
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I’m very interested in the artifacts, I keep preaching to my guild mates of the importance of heavy farming of AMR, especially when it’s an oracle trial.
I think your list is pretty much spot on, I have one adjustment though, regal crest, it’s utter 💩 I believe it belongs in D. The only separation from it and the rest of D is that it has better stats, but it’s not a saving grace for me, I think it’s the worst artifact for tanks.
Rex’s vow……why no mention or Olague??? That man is a living shield. He needs no help from any Lord bonus, healer shield maker or even an ult to gain a shield. He does it himself and then gains 20% dmg reduction, perfect synergy.